1. Once Upon a Time (5,99 stars, 1034 notes)

Hareimu wrote:

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2017-06-27 00:23 -Sh1n1-: la estetica muy buena pero te estas saltando varios jumps importantes, el intro tiene mucha densidad de notas
2017-06-27 00:23 -Sh1n1-: si me interesa el mapa
2017-06-27 00:24 Hareimu: como es eso de que la intro es densa en notas?
2017-06-27 00:24 Hareimu: necesito detallitos bonitos
2017-06-27 00:24 -Sh1n1-: oks
2017-06-27 00:27 -Sh1n1-: 00:01:189 (1) - suppongo que con eso estas siguiendo vocal verdad? pero 00:01:344 - no tiene algo prominente que merezca una nota
2017-06-27 00:27 Hareimu: estoy siguiendo vocal, si
2017-06-27 00:27 -Sh1n1-: 00:01:963 (2) -
2017-06-27 00:27 -Sh1n1-: igual ahi
2017-06-27 00:27 Hareimu: como la cantante es una vocaloid, snappea bien a los ticks apropiados
2017-06-27 00:27 Hareimu: y su voz no derrapa en ningun punto
2017-06-27 00:27 -Sh1n1-: pero a lo que voy es
2017-06-27 00:27 -Sh1n1-: decidete si vas a seguir vocal o instrumento
2017-06-27 00:28 -Sh1n1-: 00:01:963 - si fuera vocal
2017-06-27 00:28 Hareimu: la version de std seguia ambos, asi que no veia por qué no hacer lo mismo
2017-06-27 00:28 -Sh1n1-: 00:01:963 (2,3) - eso seria un solo slider
2017-06-27 00:28 -Sh1n1-: pero no te guies por la ver de std
2017-06-27 00:28 -Sh1n1-: no siempre los mapas rankeados estan bien
2017-06-27 00:28 -Sh1n1-: eso te lo va a decir cualquier persona
2017-06-27 00:29 -Sh1n1-: en std se siente diferente por que clikeas en cambio en ctb solo vas a hacer un movimiento
2017-06-27 00:30 -Sh1n1-: ademas zirox te va a hacer el mod de su vida, el siempre compara las versiones de std y ctb con un text. noc que xd
2017-06-27 00:31 Hareimu: implicando que zirox le vaya a echar un ojo al map
2017-06-27 00:32 -Sh1n1-: 00:50:906 (6) - eso es propio de una std
2017-06-27 00:32 -Sh1n1-: no hay sonido pero ellos hacen triplete para agregarle mas dificultad
2017-06-27 00:33 -Sh1n1-: algo parecido al taiko
2017-06-27 00:34 -Sh1n1-: 00:53:457 - por lña intensidad de tus patrones anteriores, aca tocaba un hyperdash
2017-06-27 00:34 -Sh1n1-: enttre 00:53:380 (10,1) -
2017-06-27 00:34 Hareimu: no deseo poner un hyperdash ahi para conservar la curva, no pasa nada si no agrego uno, supongo
2017-06-27 00:34 Hareimu: eso mismo hice en la gran mayoria de streams de 5 notas como ese
2017-06-27 00:35 -Sh1n1-: sip
2017-06-27 00:35 -Sh1n1-: por eso no me cuadraba
2017-06-27 00:35 -Sh1n1-: hay varios sonidos que te has salteado
2017-06-27 00:35 -Sh1n1-: 4 son sufientes para hacer una curva
2017-06-27 00:36 Hareimu: odio las curvas de 4 xD
2017-06-27 00:36 -Sh1n1-: haha pero si son bonitos :c
2017-06-27 00:36 Hareimu: 02:34:282 (2,3,4,5) - 
2017-06-27 00:36 Hareimu: me vi forzado a hacer estas, pero no me gustan.
2017-06-27 00:36 -Sh1n1-: hay asi no pues
2017-06-27 00:36 -Sh1n1-: eso esta feo
2017-06-27 00:36 -Sh1n1-: bien cerradito
2017-06-27 00:38 Hareimu: hacerla plana y abierta hace que el momentum desde los hyperdashes anteriores se frene de manera brusca, asi que tuve que hacerla mas cerrada y angular para contrarrestar esto.
2017-06-27 00:38 -Sh1n1-: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8448647 o.O?
2017-06-27 00:39 -Sh1n1-: esto es muy comodo al jugar
2017-06-27 00:39 Hareimu: no me gusta como se stackean 3 y 4
2017-06-27 00:40 -Sh1n1-: entonces les agregas una distancia minimo
2017-06-27 00:40 -Sh1n1-: como hace usualmente clsw
2017-06-27 00:40 Hareimu: es lo que hice con el que estaba antes
2017-06-27 00:40 Hareimu: 0,85 entre 2 y 3, 0,25 entre 3 y 4, 1,25 entre 4 y 5
2017-06-27 00:41 -Sh1n1-: no tanto xd
2017-06-27 00:41 -Sh1n1-: bueno pero eso no es un problema da igul xcomo los pongas igual es rankeable xd
2017-06-27 00:41 -Sh1n1-: la cuestion es el hyperdash que te mencione anteriormente
2017-06-27 00:41 Hareimu: es que si no, no me quedo comodo, quiero que sean per-fec-tas ;_;
2017-06-27 00:42 Hareimu: que sonidos me saltee?
2017-06-27 00:43 -Sh1n1-: 01:00:880 (8,1) - ese es un claro ejemplo
2017-06-27 00:44 -Sh1n1-: que estas siguiendo ahi para hacxer hyperdash en 01:01:035 - ?
2017-06-27 00:44 -Sh1n1-: es por eso que las diffs de stanbdard en ctb no me gustan
2017-06-27 00:44 -Sh1n1-: porque en std no se siente pero en ctb por ejemplo
2017-06-27 00:45 Hareimu: 01:01:035 (1) - el riff de la guitarra este.
2017-06-27 00:45 -Sh1n1-: 01:01:189 - merece al menos un movimientpo
2017-06-27 00:45 Hareimu: 01:01:499 (3) - tambien le di enfasis a este.
2017-06-27 00:45 -Sh1n1-: ahi es mas prominente la bateriia
2017-06-27 00:46 -Sh1n1-: por eso creo que debiste seguir enfatizando las lineas blancas en vez de las rojas al menos en ese caso
2017-06-27 00:46 -Sh1n1-: 01:02:581 (3,4,5) - igual, eso no es muy usual en ctb
2017-06-27 00:47 Hareimu: es que mas que nada lo hice para seguir un patterning preciso en vez de enfatizar mucho ciertos sonidos aparte de otros
2017-06-27 00:47 Hareimu: for the sake of patterning alone
2017-06-27 00:47 -Sh1n1-: pero no se siente natural al jugar
2017-06-27 00:47 -Sh1n1-: es muy notorio a simple vista
2017-06-27 00:50 Hareimu: supongo que los acabo de corregir.
2017-06-27 00:50 Hareimu: 00:23:457 (3) - btw, crees que esto esta bien?
2017-06-27 00:51 -Sh1n1-: bueno esos tipos de mistakes estan en todo el mapa
2017-06-27 00:51 -Sh1n1-: la estructura si
2017-06-27 00:51 -Sh1n1-: pero como que muy lineaar y no se siente la transicion
2017-06-27 00:56 Hareimu: wait, estas hablando del map en si o de ese slider?
2017-06-27 00:57 -Sh1n1-: hablando de los 4plets
2017-06-27 00:57 -Sh1n1-: creo que hay varios lugares donde puedes mejorar esas partes
2017-06-27 00:57 -Sh1n1-: acerca del slider
2017-06-27 00:58 -Sh1n1-: la estructura me parece bien
2017-06-27 00:58 -Sh1n1-: pero el movimiento es tan linear que no se siente la transicion
2017-06-27 00:58 -Sh1n1-: practicamente no enfaatizas naada en 00:23:767 -
2017-06-27 01:00 Hareimu: de cualquier manera los terminé reemplazando por una nota xD
2017-06-27 01:00 Hareimu: (los sliders)
2017-06-27 01:00 -Sh1n1-: xd
2017-06-27 01:01 Hareimu: lo de los 4plets, si te refieres a los conjuntos de 5 notas a los que patternee en forma de curvas sin enfatizar la ultima nota, los pretendo dejar asi porque no es mucho como enfatizar cosas pero hacer que se vea bien.
2017-06-27 01:03 Hareimu: por cierto, quiero preguntarte sobre el ultimo kiai
2017-06-27 01:03 Hareimu: esta muy overdone?
2017-06-27 01:04 Hareimu: ahi si que quise mandarle fuerza con los hyperdashes para demostrar el cenit de la voz de vy1v4
2017-06-27 01:05 -Sh1n1-: 03:20:674 (3,1,2,3) - wow, eran necesarios los hyperdashes ahi?
2017-06-27 01:05 Hareimu: SIP, COMPLETAMENTE
2017-06-27 01:06 Hareimu: el buildup hasta el growl antes de que comience el kiai necesita todo el enfasis posible IMO
2017-06-27 01:06 -Sh1n1-: haha no lo creo
2017-06-27 01:06 Hareimu: (03:23:573 - esto es el growl)
2017-06-27 01:07 Hareimu: y no veo problema con que esté ahi
2017-06-27 01:07 -Sh1n1-: ok te lo puedo pasar ahi porque se nota el grito pero 03:20:674 (3,1,2) -
2017-06-27 01:07 Hareimu: tenerlo como un dash normal me parece algo unfitting
2017-06-27 01:07 -Sh1n1-: no tienen nada que ver
2017-06-27 01:08 -Sh1n1-: 03:33:973 (5,6,7,8,1) - de nuevo, dices que no lo vas a cambiar asi que suerte rankeando eso xd
2017-06-27 01:08 Hareimu: es tipo para romper la atmosfera tranquilita que venia hace un segundo, mas que nada
2017-06-27 01:08 -Sh1n1-: es muy notorio
2017-06-27 01:09 -Sh1n1-: 03:39:152 (9,1) - uff
2017-06-27 01:09 -Sh1n1-: 03:53:766 (3,4,5,6,1) - ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh tanto te costaba hacer eso
2017-06-27 01:10 -Sh1n1-: porfin un jump
2017-06-27 01:10 -Sh1n1-: xDDDDD
2017-06-27 01:10 -Sh1n1-: pense que no lo encontraaria :')
2017-06-27 01:10 -Sh1n1-: 04:02:736 (1,2) - deja de ponerle hyperdash a todo
2017-06-27 01:11 -Sh1n1-: la intensidad de la musica bajo por algo y la voz no me parece suficiente
2017-06-27 01:11 Hareimu: eso no me vas a decir que no es suficiente, es la ultima parte we
2017-06-27 01:12 -Sh1n1-: naaa
2017-06-27 01:12 -Sh1n1-: se siiente forzadiisimo
2017-06-27 01:12 -Sh1n1-: orz teclado de mr.... porque las letras salen doblee
2017-06-27 01:13 Hareimu: bueno, queda como dash normal.
2017-06-27 01:13 Hareimu: caprichitos locos (?
2017-06-27 01:14 -Sh1n1-: haha
2017-06-27 01:15 -Sh1n1-: bueno creo que el principal problema son los dash entre los 4plets
2017-06-27 01:15 -Sh1n1-: por lo demas la estetica me gusta
2017-06-27 01:15 Hareimu: en el ultimo kiai te voy a dar el gusto
2017-06-27 01:15 Hareimu: antes no (?
2017-06-27 01:16 -Sh1n1-: haha no es por mi, tbh asi como esta yo no lo rankearia, pide por mods y escucha opiniones si la mayoria esta de acuerdo contigo bien pero si no, no cierres tu mente
2017-06-27 01:16 -Sh1n1-: hay algo que aprendi, yo mapeo para la gente no para mi
2017-06-27 01:16 -Sh1n1-: y bueno a mi me gusta rankear mis mapas
2017-06-27 01:16 Hareimu: yo mapeo para ambos
2017-06-27 01:16 Hareimu: no quiero que mis maps carezcan de personalidad
2017-06-27 01:17 Hareimu: pero tampoco quiero que sean odiados por el mundo
2017-06-27 01:17 -Sh1n1-: bueno eso seria todo de mi parte

Chara wrote:

cillia - 🅱airytale,

00:53:380 (10,1) - it'd be better to make this a hyper for emphasis, try moving (1) to x:250 (also emphasizes 00:53:921 (3,4) - better through contrast) nah, I wanna keep the curve as it is rn, it's a kind of gimmick I wanna preserve to not emphasize cymbals until the last kiai.
00:55:854 (9,1) - this also needs emphasis, but a simple spacing increase would do same as before c:

there's a bunch of instances of this, try doing the emphasis thing however you want

01:24:849 (1,2) - remove the hyper here? feels weird having the same pattern & spacing for 01:24:849 (1,2,3) - when theyre different sounds removed hyper between (2,3) instead, since 2 has a strong drum sound.
01:30:416 (3,4) - increase distance to 1.2x for a bit of a better balance between the spacing and the following hyper done
01:41:318 (3) - really huge spacing for something subtle, try moving this just to the middle of the playfield (it's still a hyper there) want to keep symmetry between the whole 01:40:468 (1,2,3,4) - pattern. btw the sound is really high-pitched so I think it fits nicely anyway.
02:39:540 (7,8,9,10) - increase spacing for kinda the same reason as 01:30:416 (3,4) - done
03:53:766 (3,4,5,6) - make this a curved stream instead? done
04:28:560 (6) - move to x:239 for more equal spacing between this, the previous object, and the next object' sure
04:35:210 (2,3) - make this a hyper nope, since I'm following the opposite order of 04:34:282 (3,4,5,6) - this pattern 04:35:519 (3,4,5,6) - here to emphasize the guitar's differently pitched sounds.

lol short mod xd good mappu thank

1. 00:01:499 (1,2) -; 00:04:437 (2,3) -; 00:06:293 (5,1) - the distance between these looks really inconsistent compared to 00:08:921 (1,2,3) -, 00:13:870 (1,2,3) -. I think you should make these a little bit more consistent, like decreasing the distance in the first patterns or increasing in the last I've mentioned. The same applies to 00:16:344 (1,2) -; 00:18:818 (1,2) -.
2. Tbch, I don't feel like beginning is emphasizing anything. You might want to rethink some patterns like above and 00:13:870 (1,2,3) - to turn them into something, what would emphasizing vocals (it seems you've built everything in here on them), so my suggestion is making a dash into higher vocals like 00:02:426 (3) -; 00:04:901 (3) -; 00:07:375 (3) -; and etc. I also think you should not use any hdashes in the beginning, since there's no big changes in both music and vocals.
3. 01:30:571 (1) - starting from here, I think you should decrease density of patterns. Somehow I feel it's harder than the kiai, and you know, there's no any vocals, on which you was building all dense patterns in kiai.
4. 02:03:045 (4,1) -; 02:04:901 (4,1) -; 02:06:756 (6,1) - I really do think these are tottaly overdone for such a calm section, so I think you should decrease the distance
5. 03:43:870 (7,8) - Seems to be overmapped, but this is pretty optional
6. 04:35:210 (2,3) - Aaa too tricky
7. 04:43:560 (1) - Ah, gj, but I think you can do even better

Myle wrote:

hello its me
[Once Upon a Time]

1. 00:01:499 (1,2) -; 00:04:437 (2,3) -; 00:06:293 (5,1) - the distance between these looks really inconsistent compared to 00:08:921 (1,2,3) -, 00:13:870 (1,2,3) -. I think you should make these a little bit more consistent, like decreasing the distance in the first patterns or increasing in the last I've mentioned. The same applies to 00:16:344 (1,2) -; 00:18:818 (1,2) -. What I've been trying to do with these distances was to follow the pitch and tone of VY1V4's voice with more or less distancing depending on whether she pronounced an "u" or an "o" (low distancing) or either "a", "e" or "i"
   when she was singing. Anyway I've been remapping the beginning's layout differently so I don't really think I can follow this point to the core, since it's really different now..
2. Tbch, I don't feel like beginning is emphasizing anything. You might want to rethink some patterns like above and 00:13:870 (1,2,3) - to turn them into something, what would emphasizing vocals (it seems you've built everything in here on them), so my suggestion is making a dash into higher vocals like 00:02:426 (3) -; 00:04:901 (3) -; 00:07:375 (3) -; and etc. I also think you should not use any hdashes in the beginning, since there's no big changes in both music and vocals. Removed all hyperdashes, and regarding the dashing distances to higher vocals, that's exactly what I've been doing until now xD
3. 01:30:571 (1) - starting from here, I think you should decrease density of patterns. Somehow I feel it's harder than the kiai, and you know, there's no any vocals, on which you was building all dense patterns in kiai. Done.
4. 02:03:045 (4,1) -; 02:04:901 (4,1) -; 02:06:756 (6,1) - I really do think these are tottaly overdone for such a calm section, so I think you should decrease the distance Reduced
5. 03:43:870 (7,8) - Seems to be overmapped, but this is pretty optional Not really, the drums there are actually audible, and even so the sliders are there to emphasize the next downbeat with more strength.
6. 04:35:210 (2,3) - Aaa too tricky fixed
7. 04:43:560 (1) - Ah, gj, but I think you can do even better neeeh, the slider is designed so that it curves and makes the player move the moment the reverse-sounds play, say, 04:47:840 - here for example.

That's it from me. My opinion about this - it's too overdone for such a song, but it's mapper's choise how to map things. But even so, I think you are not trying to follow any emphasize concepts, that's why I can't make a helpful mod, sorry np! I mostly only follow patterning concepts for anything that isn't the intro of the song along with only following the strong drums and cymbals to add hyperdashes and so, but anyway, thank you so much for your mod, means a lot to me <3
Good luck!

[Once Upon a Time]

• well... here we go

1. 00:01:963 (2) - Para darle un poco mas de feeling al inicio, podrías tratar de cambiar la forma de este slider,
   para que tengas que hacer un poquito mas de esfuerzo en el siguiente slider , de la sección inicial Click Here
2. 00:06:911 (2) - Darle mas distancia a la curva de slider lo noto muy cómodo para este patrón que me encantó como quedó , los movimientos que das con el ryuuta son muy agradables <3 Click Here
3. 00:53:457 (1) - Porque no poner un hdash aqui? para remarcar el cambio de ritmo en la voz
4. Ya vi que tienes varias partes con esta mismo mapping D: , entonces la misma sugerencia anterior va dedicada para estos patrones. Hago éste comentario de como jugador. porque a mi si me gustaría dar un hdash para el inicio de una nueva seccion, se que todo el tiempo hay hdahes, por la diff del map, pero otros mas no harían daño(?)
5. 01:20:519 (9) - Mover a x=276 ? porque veo que con anterioridad hay varios patrones-hdashes de izquierda derecha, y cambiado esta nota de posición, le daria un toque mas de nerviosismo al jugador al ver que hay pasado los kiais con éxito, y en lo personal, que un map me haga sentir lo hace realmente divertido
6. 02:01:499 (1) - Me parece bien que des un descanso al jugador con este slider, pero porque los siguiente son "demasiado fáciles" entre comillas lo pongo, ,
   creo que quedaria bien hacerlos "faciles" entiendes mi punto? ;-; osea... subirlos un escalón mas arriba, pero que igual sigan siendo fáciles para el break. A estos 3 me refiero 02:02:117 (2,3,4) -
7. 02:24:694 (5,6,7,8) - Quizas seria mejor moverlo a x=160 para evitar que le caigan de sorpresa esa distancia de mas de la siguiente nota, ya que la seccion sigue en el break, y todavia no deberia aumentar la intensidad
8. 04:04:282 (2,3) - aqui una sugerencia de lo que podrias hacer en este inicio de seccion Click Here

Ponchiwi wrote:

[Once Upon a Time]

• well... here we go

1. 00:01:963 (2) - Para darle un poco mas de feeling al inicio, podrías tratar de cambiar la forma de este slider,
   para que tengas que hacer un poquito mas de esfuerzo en el siguiente slider , de la sección inicial Click Here neeeh, no quiero usar formas extrañas de sliders al principio del map, quiero que sea una parte tranquila y facil de jugar porque es lo que expresa la canción, una introducción calma.
2. 00:06:911 (2) - Darle mas distancia a la curva de slider lo noto muy cómodo para este patrón que me encantó como quedó , los movimientos que das con el ryuuta son muy agradables <3 Click Here La forma la dejé como estaba antes, pero le di 1,3x distancing.
3. 00:53:457 (1) - Porque no poner un hdash aqui? para remarcar el cambio de ritmo en la voz No voy a poner hdashes en el principio del map, quiero que la sección 00:42:014 - que comienza aquí sea lo mas sorpresiva posible y que se diferencie de la parte calma del principio.
4. Ya vi que tienes varias partes con esta mismo mapping D: , entonces la misma sugerencia anterior va dedicada para estos patrones. Hago éste comentario de como jugador. porque a mi si me gustaría dar un hdash para el inicio de una nueva seccion, se que todo el tiempo hay hdahes, por la diff del map, pero otros mas no harían daño(?) Hay hdashes todo el tiempo, si, pero solo en las partes que en serio se merecen tener hdashes. En el principio no hay porque es una parte muy calma, dentro de 2 minutos adentro del map tambien hay otra parte que comienza con un time signature de 6/4 que es completamente tranquila y a esa tampoco casi ni le di hdashes, solamente hay 2. Al punto al que quiero llegar es que llenar mas de hyperdashes al mapa harian que fuese peor y overmappearia demasiado los sonidos con los que se puede trabajar.
5. 01:20:519 (9) - Mover a x=276 ? porque veo que con anterioridad hay varios patrones-hdashes de izquierda derecha, y cambiado esta nota de posición, le daria un toque mas de nerviosismo al jugador al ver que hay pasado los kiais con éxito, y en lo personal, que un map me haga sentir lo hace realmente divertido Le dí mas distancing a notas como 01:20:055 (6,7) - estas 2 (1,4x) para darle mas enfasis al final del kiai.
6. 02:01:499 (1) - Me parece bien que des un descanso al jugador con este slider, pero porque los siguiente son "demasiado fáciles" entre comillas lo pongo, ,
   creo que quedaria bien hacerlos "faciles" entiendes mi punto? ;-; osea... subirlos un escalón mas arriba, pero que igual sigan siendo fáciles para el break. A estos 3 me refiero 02:02:117 (2,3,4) - Eh... ya son lo suficientemente faciles?
7. 02:24:694 (5,6,7,8) - Quizas seria mejor moverlo a x=160 para evitar que le caigan de sorpresa esa distancia de mas de la siguiente nota, ya que la seccion sigue en el break, y todavia no deberia aumentar la intensidad Esta sección ya salió del break desde 02:23:767 - este momento, ya la voz retomó su intensidad usual, los instrumentos de fondo volvieron a aparecer, y creo que cuenta como un buildup al solo de guitarra que hay dentro de 20 segundos desde 02:34:901 - aca, asi que creo que puedo justificar las distancias mas fuertes.
8. 04:04:282 (2,3) - aqui una sugerencia de lo que podrias hacer en este inicio de seccion Click Here Hecho.

Al final pude notar que en los kiais finales si hiciste lo que yo te sugiero arriba, y en lo personal si queda mejor agregandoles esos hdashes! deberias de agregarselos.

Muy buen map como siempre Hareimu Gracias.

Razor Sharp wrote:

very very nice map o: here are the flaws/things that could be better that i found :3

00:57:478 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I can see how you wanted this to be, and it plays pretty good as it is. But the sudden direction change at 00:57:942 (8) - took me by surprise tbh. Didnt expect such a sharp turn. Why not move the slider tail of (8) too x384 y296? This wont make it as sharp as it currently is, and will be more comfortable to catch! Also move 00:57:787 (6,7) - too x248, as the vocals deserve hyper imo. If you do that, remember to move (8) too x480 to keep the hyper between (7) and (8)! (if you do that, (8)'s slider tail should end up at x452 y266) All done! Also remade the curve of 2,3,4,5 to be better curved with this change.

01:00:571 (4,5) - The distance here made the 1/4 jump a little weird to play. Try to increase the distance between these too. Remade the pattern instead so that it plays differently.

01:20:674 (1) - 01:24:385 (2) - I feel like you could have added a much more interesting way for this part. Alot of 1/2 notes could have been used. They dont even have to have forced movement. You could make 1/2 repeat sliders, almost verticaly, and then have movement when the guitar changes sound (non hypers tho). Would really recommend it. This part is kinda boring as it is now. (do as you did in 02:01:499 (1) - 02:08:612 (7) - or something similar?) Added slightly tilted vertical 1/2 sliders and repeat sliders and stuff to spruce up this part

02:27:014 (5,6) - distance is way to big for the weak sounds here. Reduced

02:36:602 (1,2,3,4,5) - Try to ctrl+g (3), (4) and (5)? I find it alot more interesting to play that way. nah, I'd rather keep it with consistent shapes as the streams aren't really that special so as to provide more variation to the jumps (as I did later on the guitar solo)

02:39:540 (8,9,10,11) - Again, a sharp stream direction change. Would suggest to place (9) at x169 to make it more smooth.

02:51:911 (9,10) - Sharp again. Tilt (9) more up and make it smoother.

04:00:261 (1) - 04:02:658 (9) - maybe try some other patterns? This feels like a clean left right spam and i does not find it fit for the song really. The last notes can offcourse be left right with increasing distance, as i see why. But before that, try something else. Done, tried a different kind of pattern :>

04:43:560 (1) - #ctb mapping for the record, that slider is shaped in such a way that the sliderticks force the player to move along the reversed sounds of the ending, that's why it looks so derpy lmao

rest of map seems fine for me. Good work on it! Thanks!

AJamez wrote:

woahh nice mapp

Once Upon a Time

• 
  01:03:200 (6) - ctrl g pls done
  01:11:550 (4) - overlap with 01:11:086 (2) - pls since u did the same for 01:10:777 (1,3) - did something else instead, but kinda followed this suggestion and the one below.
  01:11:705 (5,1) - overlap this two as well pls
  01:17:426 (2) - i suggest just stack this to 01:16:963 (1) - instead. the sliderpoint not the sliderend nah, it plays better like it is rn, moving 2 to the head of 1 just emphasizes 2 more than 01:17:581 (3) - this slider here which is over a vocal line and should be more emphasized instead.
  01:17:581 (3,1) - overlap maybe? or increase space neither, there's no need to do so, doesn't really affect gameplay all that much.
  01:32:426 (4) - ctrl g pls nope, the guitar riff sound is less strong/pitched than the other ones (compare it to 01:32:736 (5) - , for example) so it should have less distancing IMO.
  02:00:571 (7) - NC done.
  02:09:385 - maybe make something like this or just follow 02:16:344 (1,2,3) - nope, there are no sounds over the red ticks and it would underemphasize the vocal line notes (02:09:540 (2,3) - ).
  02:19:127 (7) - i would ctrl g this cus the vocal gives a strong beat here I've completely remade this section to properly follow audible sounds actually, so IDK what was the thing you suggested.
  02:34:901 - lower the volume for this part plss dunno why it was 100% volume, fixed.
  02:53:766 (7,1) - stack? I see you have ocd as well, done anyway, looks better
  02:59:643 (1,2) - ctrl g would be a better choice here if i were u since the longer slider could emphasize the guitar and vocal more imo tho I can't seem to understand what do you mean with that here.
  02:59:488 (8,2) - increase spacing after pls better if not stacked still can't really understand.
  03:19:437 (2) - would ctrl g here I really hope you're not serious with having that big of a distance between notes over such a calm section this is.
  03:20:674 (3) - 20|184 pls ;d uh... those are mania coordinates? o.O
  03:20:674 (3) - 24|88 aaaaa
  03:55:854 (3) - pls remove this note and overlap the next note to 03:55:313 (1) - instead to be consistent with 03:55:004 (5,6) - umm...
  I can hear a drumroll sound over that tick that note you mentioned is? Not touching it. Also 03:54:076 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this whole is one pattern, 03:55:313 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this is another completely different pattern, no need to be consistent.
  04:00:880 - maybe make this a 1/2 slider instead overlap it to 04:01:343 (7) - after nah, keeping this whole as standalone notes.
  04:02:736 (1) - slider is kinda awkward ;w; how come? it's perfectly catchable, no droplets are overshot, you can completely catch it normally without doing any weird maneuvers, and there's not even a strong hyperdash before it so no excessive momentum either.
  04:03:199 (2) - make this a hyper to (1) to emphasize the vocal better i suggest move it to 204|220 nope, this part is the zenith of the kiai and the only recognizably high-pitched vocal is 04:03:663 (3) - here, so the hyper goes there instead of to 2.
  04:07:684 (1,7) - stack pls uh... nope, the distance between 04:07:684 (1) - and the previous/next objects is 1,5x, and 04:08:612 (7) - has 2,5x distancing before and after it as well, not gonna change that (also both objects are waaay too far apart from each other in the timeline why would there even be a need for stacking)
  04:08:766 (8,2) - ^ distancing between 04:08:766 (8,1) - these is 3x, between 04:08:921 (1,2) - these is 2,75x... yeah, not touching that either.
  04:16:808 (4,5,6) - replace with 1/2 slider insted pls and maybe make it hyper there's an audible 1/4 triplet here, so why would I use a 1/2 slider to override it?
  04:30:493 (5) - i think this note is not needed because in the next parts u didnt add an extra note deleted note
  04:40:933 (6) - object isnt snapped via aimod aaaaaa thanks for pointing that out I almost died
  04:41:395 (2,3,4,5) - spacing increased too fast D: it's the last part of the section (and you had a plethora of highly spaced patterns starting from 04:23:766 - here to prepare for it to not even notice there was an increase in distancing, and it should be significantly stronger to emphasize it correctly anyway.

Goooodluck!! <3 Thanks!

alienflybot wrote:

Hello, you, requested, me, to, mod, this, so, let's, try.

█ Optional to change --- █ Suggested to change --- █ Unrankable

[ General,]

• 
  Tags

1. Add: "utaite" aaaaa why did I forget to add this to this map and not to the sweet cendrillon drug one, added
   
   Unused Inherited Sections
2. Remove them: 02:21:911 - , 02:59:643 - done

[ Once Upon a Time]

• 
  Gameplay

1. 00:01:499 (1,2) - Remove the dash here, so to remain consistency with the parts at 00:03:973 (1,2) - , 00:06:447 (1,2) - , 00:08:921 (1,2) - and suchlike. To fix this, simply move 00:01:189 (1,1) - altogether to the right. done
2. 00:05:829 (4,5,1) - This part is quite surprising to players, I thought the intro will be slightly easier so the build-up can be more obvious. Maybe curve 00:06:447 (1) - like this: *Screenshot? Note that you still have to fix the distances after amending. done!
3. 00:13:870 (1,2) - Same as 00:01:499 (1,2) - . Basically FC'able by walking but it is quite a close call. Therefore reducing the distance here helps. done as well
4. 00:47:272 (1,2,3,4,5) - Movements here are so similar to 00:44:798 (1,2,3,4) - , guess you can apply another pattern here to make it more creative and diverse? Varied it a bit
5. 00:53:148 (7,8,9,10,1) - , 00:55:622 (5,6,7,8,1) - Bend more outwards? These sections are in Kiai Time so they can be more intense to fit such atmosphere. kinda did so
6. 00:55:004 (2,3,4) - ^, simply move (3) slightly to the left. ^
7. 01:05:519 (4,5,6,7,1) - 01:19:591 (2,3,4) - ^ ^
8. 01:24:385 (1,2,3) - Maybe change (1,2) to a dash and keep HDash at (2,3)? Also emphasis is a bit weird here because (1,2) has a larger distance comparing to (2,3). To fix this, I think you can do it like this: Firstly increase the distance of 01:22:839 (3,1) - , so you can move 01:23:148 (1,2,3,1) - altogether to x:76, then shorten the distance of 01:24:385 (1,2) - to trigger just a dash by moving 01:24:849 (2,3,4,5) - to x:252. All done!
9. 01:40:468 (1) - Curve this slider? Pretty easy to overshoot. nah, keeping it like that to emphasize the whistle-like sound's pitch.
10. 02:12:323 (5,1) - HDash? To add one without breaking the whole flow: Firstly Ctrl+H 02:12:323 (5) - and place it at x:212 (original position), then Ctrl+H 02:12:633 (1) - and place it at x:300 (original position). done.
11. 03:23:148 (2,3) - The anti-flow at (2) is pesky, for a better build-up, consider Ctrl+H'ing (2) and place it at x:376? done in both buildups
12. 03:25:313 (4,5) - Remove HDash here to remain consistency with 00:44:488 (4) - This kiai is a LOT stronger than the first one, so it shouldn't be exactly consistent to begin with. VY1V4's voice really picks up here.

Good luck! Thanks!

Sanyi wrote:

From my modding queue

Note: My keyboard is kinda broken - playability issues that I mention may be caused by my keyboard (in combination with my lack of skill) instead of the pattern.

Kudosu only when helpful!

General

1. 02:01:499 - You've setted here a timing point and an inherited point at the same time. Please change the volume of the timing point to 75% since it is only allowed to change the SV with the inherited point in this case. oh shit didn't even notice that thanks for pointing it out!

Once Upon a Time

1. 00:18:200 (4,5) - I would make this one a slider to have more consistency with the rest of the intro - the single circles appear kinda random. done
2. 00:42:014 (1,2) - The spacing is overdone imo. It can catch you offguard after the break and lead to an unnecessary miss. I recommend you to reduce the distance. reduced to 1,5x between both.
3. 01:17:426 (2,3) - I think this one should be a hyperdash. done
4. 01:20:055 (6,7) - I would move this group to x:192 since i don't think it deserves such a strong spacing here. reduced a tad.
5. 01:50:906 (5,6,7) - I would somehow reduce the distance here a bit, is really easy to miss here imo. reduced and changed the pattern a bit as well.
6. 01:40:468 (1,2,3,4,1) - I like the idea, but I think the spacing should be getting lower for every slider since the sound is getting softer every time. I would also stop using back and forth for 01:41:550 (4,1) - to emphasize 01:41:705 (1) - (i.e. 01:41:318 (3) - at the right side, 01:41:550 (4) - in the middle and 01:41:705 (1) - at the left side). Applied the idea you suggested but in a kinda different fashion

This looks like I stopped modding after 01:41 but I didn't xD. Hopefully the mod was atleast a bit helpful. I think there is nothing more to do in this map except of checking once more for inconsistencies (if there are any left I haven't found them).

Pretty straightforward mapping style in this map, a bit overdone for my taste but it still works. I don't like one mapping choice though: 00:53:380 (10,1,2) - (comes more than once) - You have absolutely no spacing between the stream and the slider afterwards even though the cymbal sound is pretty strong, which makes the hyperdash afterwards feel overemphasized. remade those streams to follow what you've pointed out, they play better now.

Good Luck! Thanks!

1. 00:42:323 (2,3) - Pretty easy to make a shit miss due to the fast SV on (3). I think it would feel better without the HDash between (2) and (3).
2. 01:40:081 (6,7,8) - This part has a bit far jumps than I've expected, which makes them feel like over-jumped. Trying something like this would be helpful.
3. 02:49:591 (10,1) - I feel like there should be a HDash between 10 and 1 due to the strong sound
4. 02:53:921 (8,1,2) - Really hard to get because of the strong hyperdashes. I'd reduce the distance between 8 and 1 for a bit
5. 02:59:952 (2,3) - I thought that the curved 3/4 slider would fit more with the song, thus I've tried something like this and I'm pretty sure it worked better than the current lineal one.
6. 03:09:385 (5,6,1) - This is unnecessarily far imo, mind reduce it a little?

Spectator wrote:

Once Upon a Time

1. 00:42:323 (2,3) - Pretty easy to make a shit miss due to the fast SV on (3). I think it would feel better without the HDash between (2) and (3). nope, emphasis would be completely lost that way.
2. 01:40:081 (6,7,8) - This part has a bit far jumps than I've expected, which makes them feel like over-jumped. Trying something like this would be helpful. done
3. 02:49:591 (10,1) - I feel like there should be a HDash between 10 and 1 due to the strong sound I feel like (1) goes way better off underemphasized like that, since what I was trying to do was to emphasize 02:50:210 (2) - more because it has a cymbal sound, which 02:49:746 (1) - doesn't.
4. 02:53:921 (8,1,2) - Really hard to get because of the strong hyperdashes. I'd reduce the distance between 8 and 1 for a bit done
5. 02:59:952 (2,3) - I thought that the curved 3/4 slider would fit more with the song, thus I've tried something like this and I'm pretty sure it worked better than the current lineal one. replaced with a different curve instead.
6. 03:09:385 (5,6,1) - This is unnecessarily far imo, mind reduce it a little? ok

Not much to mention actually, as the map is overall very clean and well-structured thanks! <3

Good luck!

Ascendance wrote:

reposting for 2kd

I'm SUPER sick so some things might just be me not being able to play lol

[ General]

1. Difficulty Spread : AR 9.5 seems a bit high to me here actually, I'd much prefer AR 9.3-9.4, as I don't think 9.5 compliments it too well done
2. Background Size : ok
3. Unsnapped objects : ok
4. Audio bitrate over 192 kbps : ok
5. Metadata Issues : ok
6. Timeline Issues : ok
7. Combo Colors : Combo colors don't really make too much sense to me. Is there any reason for the colors you chose? actually they were taken from a previous bg the map had before I changed it into the fairytale title bg, but now I made a completely new bg and changed the colours accordingly.
8. Unused Hitsounds : ok
9. Hitsounds Issues : ok
10. Unused Files / Other : I don't really like the BG at all actually, I'd much prefer if you used the one from the ranked sets, it fits rather nicely with the song <: Made my own one using the bg used in the taiko version!

[ Once Upon a Time]

General

1. 00:09:385 (2,3) - I don't really like this weird double curve in a calm section, creates some odd flow. Maybe something more normalized would be nicer fixed
2. 00:16:808 (2,3) - copypasta changed
3. 00:42:323 (2,3) - SV is really high here, making 00:42:787 (3) - in particular really difficult to catch imo. Maybe curving these a bit would be good? I like the transition better with it anyway only curved first slider, the second one stays like it is.
4. 00:56:396 (3,4) - Pretty high distance, try something like this maybe? ok!
5. 01:00:262 (3) - strong flow into a standstill slider doesn't play too well for me, you could try turning 00:59:952 (2,3) - into a wiggle kind of to fix that done
6. 02:03:354 (1) - any reason for this one to be fully horizontal in comparison to the others? might want to value the consistency with the others here it's like that to emphasize the guitar-bell-like sound audible at it's head. Did the same for 02:05:210 (1) - 02:07:066 (1) - these two
7. 03:22:839 (1,2) - super unexpected distance here, might be good to reduce 03:22:839 (1,2) - reduced between these two instead to make it more accessible, the hyperdash into (1) is there to emphasize the fade-in sound that is also mixed with vy1v4's breathing in, as well as to emphasize the beginning of the last kiai nicely.
8. 03:23:148 (2,3) - similar to previous transition nope, vy1v4's voice reaches it's zenith on this 03:23:612 - part, and it also emphasizes the growl she's letting out quite nicely IMO.

holy fuck this map is overrated in terms of sr, i fc'd it while being half dead lmao gl yea idk why it's 6,2* it should be 5,5* or so but I think the last part inflated it a bit too much or something

Benny- wrote:

haha here I am hi

Once Upon a Time

1. 00:42:323 (2,3) - I don't really like how long this hyperdistance is with the strong antiflow on the really fast and long slider, would be cool if you could reduce it so the distance is distinctively lower than 00:42:787 (3,1) - done
2. 00:55:236 (3) - What's this note hitting? Sounds like nothing. removed
3. 00:59:334 (3) - Downbeat is really underemphasised here fixed
4. 01:00:880 - 01:02:117 - This could be a stream and a note here 01:00:803 - . Seems you're putting a couple of streams on pretty inaudible sounds and ignore them where they have a tiny potensial of being there lol I can't hear any 1/4 sounds between those two timestamps you linked,
   so no. Added a note 01:00:803 - here though
5. 01:03:354 (1) - Inconsistent rhythm with 00:43:560 (1,2) - fixed
6. 01:04:282 (3,1) - Pitch of vocal is pretty distinct here so would be cool with a hyper, generally I think you could focus a bit more on the vocals as continiously emphasising drums is quite repetitive which again leads to boring. At least in my opinion. remapped the whole kiai following vocals for hypers.
7. 01:21:602 (3,1) - 01:24:076 (3,1) - I don't think these sounds call for a hyper, they kind of ruin the emphasisement on the actual kick on 01:22:839 (3,1) - removed hypers
8. 01:32:117 (2,3,4) - Flows really bad imo haha remapped this guitar instrumental kiai too, so this is fixed
9. 01:35:829 (2,3,4) - 01:36:756 (1,2,3) - Why the sudden change in hyperpatterns? What makes it any different from 01:30:571 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - in terms of rhythm and intensity? If the answer is nothing then please change. as above
10. 01:55:932 (3,4,5,6,1) - what why the music doesn't change at all and you didn't even put patterns like this in the entirety of the first kiai also remapped this section, so I think that's fixed for now.
11. 02:12:323 (5,1) - Can you please make 5 a 1/2 slider hyper to 1 instead? done
12. 02:25:313 (9,10,1) - Again these fucking double hypers please remove hyper between 9,10. Music isn't that strong in terms of intensity lmao ok removed
13. 02:27:401 (9,1) - Underemphasised, please make hyper thanks done
14. 03:07:375 (2,3,4) - can u make distances equal here remapped section
15. 03:23:148 (2,3) - Same as mentioned in the first point done
16. I liked the ending better because you managed to listen to the music better uwu thank

call me back desu ok desu