Hirokazu Koshio - Invader Disco · forum

Hollow Delta

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Hollow Delta 2017-06-19T09:02:13+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 12:18:52

Artist: Hirokazu Koshio
Title: Invader Disco
Source: Space Invaders Extreme 2
Tags: electronic instrumental mentai hydrocannon13 chalwa alphabet ds arcade nintendo stage background zuntata taito sound team boss stage one 1 cut short version ver. venax venex Bubblun Vespirit
BPM: 135
Filesize: 2024kb
Play Time: 01:08
Difficulties Available:

Alphabet's Hard (3.36 stars, 172 notes)
Chalwa's Light Insane (3.58 stars, 267 notes)
HC's Expert (4.84 stars, 263 notes)
Mentai's Normal (2.09 stars, 97 notes)
Nyanta's Insane (4.38 stars, 288 notes)
Ultimatum v2 (5.13 stars, 314 notes)

Download: Hirokazu Koshio - Invader Disco
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Guest Diffs by HydroCannon13, Chalwa, Alphabet, and Mentai

Thanks to VenerableNyanta for Nyanta's Insane ;P

Renamed HC's Insane to HC's Expert, as that more accurately represents how the diff plays

https://puu.sh/zDgkE/ee5a4f3971.osu <- External link to old 'Ultimatum' diff

~~Need confirmation for the metadata~~ Figured it out with help from the Metadata Heap Discord ( thanks, Kurai )

Source:

Last edited by Hollow Delta 2023-08-06T16:19:29+00:00, edited 116 times in total.

Mentai

472 posts

Joined June 2016

Mentai 2017-07-04T09:13:43+00:00

1.8*

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Hollow Delta

793 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Hollow Delta 2017-07-04T12:44:20+00:00

Mentai wrote:

1.8*

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Thanks

Zectro

371 posts

Joined April 2013

Zectro 2017-08-31T14:58:56+00:00

Ingame PM M4M Request

[Mentai's Normal]
00:00:534 (1) - Maybe make the middle of this slider a bit more symmetrical? (Middle anchor point to x165y308)

00:02:311 (2) - Way less interesting than the first slider, consider changing it to another cooler shape

00:07:200 (4,2) - 00:46:311 (3,2) - Probably too confusing of an overlap for in a Normal. 00:38:533 (2,2) - Is okay though.

Lazy blankets,
00:21:867 (1,2) -
00:23:200 (3,1) -
00:28:978 (1,2) -
00:30:311 (3,1) -
00:33:645 (2,3) -
00:35:645 (4,1) -
00:42:756 (3,1) -
00:50:311 (1,2) -
00:53:422 (3,1) -
00:57:422 (1,2) -
01:02:089 (2,3) -

[Alphabet's Hard]
00:01:422 - 00:03:200 - Consider making these sounds clickable instead of slider ends
00:28:533 - Same goes for this one, it makes it quite confusing, specially for the newer player

00:36:089 - From here on the mapping gets kinda boring and repetitive, I appreciate you switching up the sliders and circles but I suggest trying to come up with a different pattern for 00:39:645 - to emphasize the 'melody' change (and then back to 00:43:200 - with the same patterns as 00:36:089 - again and then 00:46:756 - just like 00:39:645 - again)

00:55:200 (4) - Move to the left a bit so it doesn't overlap with 00:53:867 (1) -

00:56:756 (5,6,7) - Make this an actual triangle, same goes for 01:00:311 (4,5,6) -

01:04:089 (6) - Sliderend to x202y22

[Chalwa's Light Insane]
00:03:645 (4) - Make this a note like 00:01:867 (4) - or silence the slider end, as it's mapped to nothing and unnecessary.

00:07:756 (2,3,4) - 00:09:533 (2,3,4) - 00:36:200 (2,3,4) - 00:37:978 (2,3,4) - I feel like all the sounds on these slider ends should be clickable, just like they are from 00:11:200 - on. What makes me specially point this out is that they are also clickable on 00:14:756 - .

00:08:978 (6) - NC for readability. Same goes for 00:10:756 (6) - and any other instances of this pattern.

00:28:089 (1) - 00:56:533 (1) - Follows no sound and should be deleted as it confuses the player.

00:36:089 (1) - Too far away from 00:36:200 (2) - , make it x0.64 like your other doubles

00:36:089 - Fix the green timing point's volume, shouldn't be 15%

[HC's Insane]
It's pretty cool what you did with the hitsounds although I doubt it's rankable as it gets extremely annoying not/barely being able to hear what you click on while playing. (For clarification, I'm talking about the volume %)

00:10:089 (4,6) - Not as bad as the next one, but ugly overlap
00:10:978 (8,2) - Ugly overlap
00:12:200 (5,1) - This overlap is quite ugly aswell
00:15:645 (5,7) - Stack on slider end or something similar
00:17:200 (4,7) - 00:57:200 (7,2) - Fix stack
00:33:867 (7,2,3) - Make sure these don't overlap
00:56:645 (4) - NC this just like you did at 00:28:200 (1) -

Lazy blankets,
00:49:200 (3,4) -
00:48:533 (1,2) -
00:54:200 (2,3) -

[Ultimatum]
00:08:867 (8) - 00:15:978 (9) - Felt quite awkward while playing

00:28:200 (1,2,1,2) - 00:56:644 (1,2,1,2) - You need to make the timing on these more obvious for the player, I suggest using distance. 00:27:200 (1,2,1,2) - 00:55:644 (1,2,1,2) - This is okay, however.

00:46:533 (2,2) - Ugly overlap

I'm afraid these are all overmapped as nothing in the music allows such patterns, and can very well be unrankable:
00:22:256 (2,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2) -
00:26:312 (1,2,1,2,1) -
00:29:367 (2,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2) -
00:50:700 (2,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2) -
00:54:200 (2,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2) -
00:57:811 (2,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2) -

Good luck, awesome map!

Hollow Delta

793 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Hollow Delta 2017-08-31T16:10:06+00:00

Zectro wrote:
Ingame PM M4M Request

[Ultimatum]
00:08:867 (8) - 00:15:978 (9) - Felt quite awkward while playing

00:28:200 (1,2,1,2) - 00:56:644 (1,2,1,2) - You need to make the timing on these more obvious for the player, I suggest using distance. 00:27:200 (1,2,1,2) - 00:55:644 (1,2,1,2) - This is okay, however.

00:46:533 (2,2) - Ugly overlap

I'm afraid these are all overmapped as nothing in the music allows such patterns, and can very well be unrankable:
00:22:256 (2,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2) -
00:26:312 (1,2,1,2,1) -
00:29:367 (2,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2) -
00:50:700 (2,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2) -
00:54:200 (2,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2) -
00:57:811 (2,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2) -

Good luck, awesome map!

Fixed all except the overmap part. It's subtle, but there's a little NEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUOOOOO noise, and along with it is the layer of 1/8. I just simplified it into 1/2 jumps because mapping the whole thing as a stream wouldn't fit the intensity.

Thanks for modding

Aistre

Beatmap Nominator

614 posts

Joined September 2014

Aistre 2017-08-31T17:35:00+00:00

Zectro wrote:
[Alphabet's Hard]
00:01:422 - 00:03:200 - Consider making these sounds clickable instead of slider ends
00:28:533 - Same goes for this one, it makes it quite confusing, specially for the newer player

00:36:089 - From here on the mapping gets kinda boring and repetitive, I appreciate you switching up the sliders and circles but I suggest trying to come up with a different pattern for 00:39:645 - to emphasize the 'melody' change (and then back to 00:43:200 - with the same patterns as 00:36:089 - again and then 00:46:756 - just like 00:39:645 - again) There's nothing I can really do because the song is the exact same as 00:07:645 - . Here,
I'm representing the key change with the sharp sliders instead of straight.

00:55:200 (4) - Move to the left a bit so it doesn't overlap with 00:53:867 (1) -

00:56:756 (5,6,7) - Make this an actual triangle, same goes for 01:00:311 (4,5,6) -

01:04:089 (6) - Sliderend to x202y22

Thanks, everything unmentioned was changed

update

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Vespirit

350 posts

Joined December 2014

Vespirit 2017-09-04T21:28:52+00:00

Zectro wrote:
Ingame PM M4M Request

[HC's Insane]
It's pretty cool what you did with the hitsounds although I doubt it's rankable as it gets extremely annoying not/barely being able to hear what you click on while playing. (For clarification, I'm talking about the volume %)

00:10:089 (4,6) - Not as bad as the next one, but ugly overlap
00:10:978 (8,2) - Ugly overlap
00:12:200 (5,1) - This overlap is quite ugly aswell
00:15:645 (5,7) - Stack on slider end or something similar
00:17:200 (4,7) - 00:57:200 (7,2) - Fix stack
00:33:867 (7,2,3) - Make sure these don't overlap
00:56:645 (4) - NC this just like you did at 00:28:200 (1) -

Lazy blankets,
00:49:200 (3,4) -
00:48:533 (1,2) -
00:54:200 (2,3) -

Good luck, awesome map!

fixed everything, recopied hs, thanks

osu file format v14

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Artist:Taito
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Version:HC's Insane
Source:Space Invaders Extreme 2
Tags:mentai hydrocannon13 chalwa alphabet
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Hollow Delta

793 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Hollow Delta 2017-09-06T09:28:31+00:00

Updated both diffs. Just wating for mentai and chalwa

Jakomo73

203 posts

Joined June 2013

Jakomo73 2017-09-08T00:41:05+00:00

Hey m4m thing ye

add nintendo, DS, and arcade to the tags maybe?

Mentai's Normal

Just pointing out, kiai's are different in this diff than all the others. Isn't really an issue tho since it's a GD
A lot of blankets need to be fixed, some are pretty off
00:00:534 - 00:07:645 - maybe lower SV for this section? seems a bit high for an intro
00:39:645 (1,2) - angle from 1>2 breaks the movement set up by 1 and feels kind of awkward
00:42:756 (3) - head should have a drum sampleset like at 00:14:311 (6) -

Alphabet's Hard

00:07:200 (6,7) - imo make these 1/4 "kicksliders" to emphasize the rhythm difference between this and 00:06:756 (4,5) -
00:27:200 (1) - what about this or thisfor a rhythm? I don't like skipping over the noise at 00:27:756 - since it's so prominent and those "beeps" have been the main rhythm focus throughout the map so far.
00:50:756 - missing a circle? You mapped the white tick in your previous rhythm (00:48:978 (2) - ) and it seems like the same rhythm in the song. Same for 00:54:311 - 00:57:867 -
01:03:533 (3,4) - kinda ugly overlap since so little of it is overlapping 2. Maybe lower DS from 2?

Chalwa's Light Insane

00:36:089 - raise hitsound vol please D:
01:03:089 (2,1,2) - turn these into doubles to emphasize the drums? They have two "beeps" anyway and you've mapped those with doubles quite a bit before
01:02:756 (1) - maybe make spacing from 4 higher? Player doesn't have to do anything different or even really notices the change in spacing since it's not that different
01:08:089 - lower hitsound volume for end of spinner since music is fading out

HC's Insane

00:21:422 (5,6) - should turn this into a 1/4 slider imo since you've mapped this rhythm with two 1/4 sliders the previous times, and I'm not sure what's worth emphasizing at 00:21:533 -
00:23:645 - lower hitsound volume since the finishes are so loud. At least for the places with finishes, but the hitsounds are fine for hitnormal. (if you accept, its also at 00:52:089 - 00:53:867 -
01:03:200 (3) - should make this two repeats like at 01:01:422 (3,4) - since it's the same sound at a different pitch
01:08:089 - lower hitsound volume for end of spinner since music is fading out

Ultimatum

raise ar to like 9.3 or 9.5? Lots of overlaps and stuff so it's pretty hard to read
00:57:422 (1) - have this blanket 00:56:978 (1) - ? would do a lot to improve the aesthetics of the pattern
01:04:089 (1,2,1,2,1) - right now this seems kinda weird rhythmically, since it's putting emphasis on the first five 1/8 sounds, but the sounds during the repeating slider are just as prominent as the five emphasized sounds, which makes it kind of unintuitive. I think you should make it like 00:07:200 (1,2,3,4) - but bigger spacing

good luck!

-NanoRIPE-

2,018 posts

Joined October 2013

-NanoRIPE- 2017-09-08T12:28:12+00:00

yo

[General]

Check all diffs to uncheck widescreen support ~

[Normal]
00:02:311 (2) - add clap/whistle sampleset drum i guess? just dont make it blank cuz theres sound on it
00:09:422 (4) - ^
00:11:200 (1) - ^
00:12:978 (4) - ^ ok i'll stop mentioning all hs stuff cuz i wont wasted my time ~ (basically you have to added clap/whistle drum on every big white tick ~)
00:33:645 (2,3) - fix blanket thx
00:55:645 (1,1) - avoid this kind of overlap ~ its clearly visible

[hard]
00:05:867 (1) - considering to make them closer cuz i dont feel right if you added jump here after you used 1/4 kickslider before this slider (its hard to catch it up)
00:07:200 (6,7) - at least add 2 1/2 sliders here pls for the fast clap beat at here
00:24:311 (2,3) - unstack it? for make it more playable (the sounds seems strong at here)
00:26:089 (2,3) - ^
00:27:645 - add triplet here instead? for emphasize the instrument here
00:49:422 (3,4) - why a jump here? i mean theres no instrument that you should emphasize with this jump
00:56:533 (3) - del this circle? cuz theres no sound you should emphasize with this circle.like you did at 01:01:978 (2,3) -
01:00:089 (2) - ^
01:04:533 - maybe one circle here? for make a little touch at the end ~

[light insane]
clean ~

[insane]
00:19:867 (7) - i feel the flow its kinda edgy,maybe just stack this on head of 00:18:645 (2) - instead for make it neat
00:32:311 (7,1) - if you compare this with 01:00:756 (7,1) - which they had same internsity i think the jumps its too far imo
00:49:533 (4) - convert this into one circle and a 1/4 slider? cuz the beat should be emphasize it more
00:56:756 (2,5) - the rhythm is so intense here and the way rhythm you used here looks cool but the pattern seems hard to read especially these stack ~ so maybe unstack it? or maybe make it overlapping perhaps?

[ultimatum]
i can't mod this diff xd sorry

Note : the gap between insane and light insane is quite big (more like Hard >>> Light insane >>>>>>>>>>>>> Insane) try to make the gap closer as you can (maybe make the light insane more harder or make insane more lighter ~)

thats all ~
GL!

Hollow Delta

793 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Hollow Delta 2017-09-09T20:20:18+00:00

Jakomo73 wrote:
add nintendo, DS, and arcade to the tags maybe?

Ultimatum
raise ar to like 9.3 or 9.5? Lots of overlaps and stuff so it's pretty hard to read I think it's okay, as the most of the overlaps are perfect stacks.
00:57:422 (1) - have this blanket 00:56:978 (1) - ? would do a lot to improve the aesthetics of the pattern idk how I didn't think to do that. Thanks.
01:04:089 (1,2,1,2,1) - right now this seems kinda weird rhythmically, since it's putting emphasis on the first five 1/8 sounds, but the sounds during the repeating slider are just as prominent as the five emphasized sounds, which makes it kind of unintuitive. I think you should make it like 00:07:200 (1,2,3,4) - but bigger spacing I think the rhythm still fits, as that shift on the 5th 1/8 note was always there, I just chose to compliment it now as a finisher.

-NanoRIPE- wrote:
[General]
Check all diffs to uncheck widescreen support ~
[ultimatum]
i can't mod this diff xd sorry

Note : the gap between insane and light insane is quite big (more like Hard >>> Light insane >>>>>>>>>>>>> Insane) try to make the gap closer as you can (maybe make the light insane more harder or make insane more lighter ~) lol it's cool.
About the diff spread tho. I think it's okay as the sr between the two diffs is only about .8, and the spread between light insane & hard is .7 which isn't that much different than .8

Applied all the widescreen and tag stuff mentioned. Thanks alot dudes.

Yugu

Elite Mapper

1,006 posts

Joined August 2013

Yugu 2017-09-12T14:12:22+00:00

M4M from your q

Ultimatum

00:14:311 (2,3) - why didn t follow your pattern like 00:12:533 (1,2) - it is the same music if i have not heard it wrong
00:18:089 (2) - maybe you need ctrl g to keep the same direction cuz they have pattem like 00:08:978 (1,2) - 00:10:756 (1,2) - 00:12:533 (1,2) - 00:16:089 (1,2) -
00:19:645 (1,2) - ^
00:16:867 (3,4,5,6) - same ds but different rhythm in a short time maybe confusion , you need some hint to make player know it like NC or other something
00:22:256 (2,1,2,1,2) - like HW's KAEDE? cool (all depends on you)
00:22:533 (1,2,3,4,1) - 270bpm stream maybe not suitable for 4.7* map :thinking:
00:22:756 (1,2,1,2) - also 1/8 interval easy to miss
00:28:978 (1) - ctrl g is better imo
00:30:533 (2,1) - so far 00:30:756 (1,2) - maybe exchange timing position?

second part also same problem like ^

emm...okay....

HC's Insane

00:12:200 (5,1) - fix stack
00:15:645 (5,6) - maybe their ds is a bit far
00:16:089 (7) - ctrl g to better flow
00:17:422 (5,6) - ^^
00:17:422 (5,8) - fix stack
00:28:200 (1,2) - why soooooooo far?
00:45:867 (5,6) - ^^^
00:56:645 (1,2) - ^^

sorry for late to mod your map cuz i reaaaaaaally busy in scahool recently

gl!

Hollow Delta

793 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Hollow Delta 2017-09-13T02:27:46+00:00

Too exhausted to apply tonight. Irma finally gave me my power back, so I'd like to enjoy myself.

Aistre

Beatmap Nominator

614 posts

Joined September 2014

Aistre 2017-09-13T16:18:12+00:00

Jakomo73 wrote:

Alphabet's Hard
00:07:200 (6,7) - imo make these 1/4 "kicksliders" to emphasize the rhythm difference between this and 00:06:756 (4,5) -
00:27:200 (1) - what about this or thisfor a rhythm? I don't like skipping over the noise at 00:27:756 - since it's so prominent and those "beeps" have been the main rhythm focus throughout the map so far. I used the same rhythm from 00:55:645 (1,2) -
00:50:756 - missing a circle? You mapped the white tick in your previous rhythm (00:48:978 (2) - ) and it seems like the same rhythm in the song. Same for 00:54:311 - 00:57:867 - I used this gap 00:21:867 (1,2) - 00:23:645 (1,2,3) - etc. to separate it from the previous section of the song since it's clear to see it's mapped differently with the anchor sliders too
01:03:533 (3,4) - kinda ugly overlap since so little of it is overlapping 2. Maybe lower DS from 2?

good luck!

-NanoRIPE- wrote:
yo

[General]
[hard]
00:05:867 (1) - considering to make them closer cuz i dont feel right if you added jump here after you used 1/4 kickslider before this slider (its hard to catch it up) The spacing here is consistent for 1/2 and 1/4, I don't see a reason to change that
00:07:200 (6,7) - at least add 2 1/2 sliders here pls for the fast clap beat at here
00:24:311 (2,3) - unstack it? for make it more playable (the sounds seems strong at here) I like the use of them, it gives variety
00:26:089 (2,3) - ^ ^
00:27:645 - add triplet here instead? for emphasize the instrument here I don't think it's necessary here, the instrument at 00:28:200 (3,4) - has a beat snapped to it, that's why it's included
00:49:422 (3,4) - why a jump here? i mean theres no instrument that you should emphasize with this jump
00:56:533 (3) - del this circle? cuz theres no sound you should emphasize with this circle.like you did at 01:01:978 (2,3) - The texture here is thicker with it being snapped with a drum beat, deleting the triplets here sounds weird
01:00:089 (2) - ^ ^
01:04:533 - maybe one circle here? for make a little touch at the end ~ I think it's fine, probably not the most ideal thing to read in a hard either

GL!

Thanks

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Hollow Delta

793 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Hollow Delta 2017-09-13T20:41:31+00:00

Yugu wrote:
M4M from your q

Ultimatum
00:14:311 (2,3) - why didn t follow your pattern like 00:12:533 (1,2) - it is the same music if i have not heard it wrong Because it's not the same part. That electronic voice in the first point you mentioned signifies a change, so I mapped it accordingly.
00:18:089 (2) - maybe you need ctrl g to keep the same direction cuz they have pattem like 00:08:978 (1,2) - 00:10:756 (1,2) - 00:12:533 (1,2) - 00:16:089 (1,2) - I don't see how it makes the map better, as in all examples given to me they're all kick sliders, so it doesn't matter what side of the slider is clicked, or what direction they are facing, as the natural flow is still there.
00:19:645 (1,2) - ^
00:16:867 (3,4,5,6) - same ds but different rhythm in a short time maybe confusion , you need some hint to make player know it like NC or other something When it comes to readability there's more to it than distance. There's also the emphasis given by the song. The reason I don't use consistent spacing here is because there's more emphasis in 00:16:756 (2) - than there is in 00:17:422 (5) -
00:22:256 (2,1,2,1,2) - like HW's KAEDE? cool (all depends on you) I get HW comments a lot. I don't even map after her so it surprises me xddd but thanks
00:22:533 (1,2,3,4,1) - 270bpm stream maybe not suitable for 4.7* map :thinking: Because of the OD and how short the stream is, you don't exactly have to be capable of 270bpm streams to play this. Most players can mash through this no problem.
00:22:756 (1,2,1,2) - also 1/8 interval easy to miss They're very close together, so it's fair. The buzz sliders are 1/16, so if anything a 1/8 gap gives plenty of room for error because the players are prepared to be precise through listening.
00:28:978 (1) - ctrl g is better imo I don't agree, as I think the antijump created by 00:28:756 (2,1) - draws attention to the sped-up slider.
00:30:533 (2,1) - so far 00:30:756 (1,2) - maybe exchange timing position? I changed the timing because this is where you could barely hear the 1/8 noise. The downbeat here also makes the switch more intuitive to play as it's anticipated by the shift I had back on 00:29:867 -

second part also same problem like ^

emm...okay.... lol rip you

sorry for late to mod your map cuz i reaaaaaaally busy in scahool recently yea screw school
gl!

thx for the mod

Mentai

472 posts

Joined June 2016

Mentai 2017-09-17T18:21:50+00:00

Zectro wrote:
[Mentai's Normal]
00:00:534 (1) - Maybe make the middle of this slider a bit more symmetrical? (Middle anchor point to x165y308) sure

00:02:311 (2) - Way less interesting than the first slider, consider changing it to another cooler shape i hate wave sliders anyway

00:07:200 (4,2) - 00:46:311 (3,2) - Probably too confusing of an overlap for in a Normal. 00:38:533 (2,2) - Is okay though. should be readable in-game, i do this stuff all the time

Lazy blankets,
00:21:867 (1,2) -
00:23:200 (3,1) -
00:28:978 (1,2) -
00:30:311 (3,1) -
00:33:645 (2,3) -
00:35:645 (4,1) -
00:42:756 (3,1) -
00:50:311 (1,2) -
00:53:422 (3,1) -
00:57:422 (1,2) -
01:02:089 (2,3) - i mapped this diff with grid snap sadly, fixed all of these. thanks!

Jakomo73 wrote:
Mentai's Normal[/size]
Just pointing out, kiai's are different in this diff than all the others. Isn't really an issue tho since it's a GD
A lot of blankets need to be fixed, some are pretty off should be good now
00:00:534 - 00:07:645 - maybe lower SV for this section? seems a bit high for an intro really don't like messing with SV in diffs lower than Hard
00:39:645 (1,2) - angle from 1>2 breaks the movement set up by 1 and feels kind of awkward fixed
00:42:756 (3) - head should have a drum sampleset like at 00:14:311 (6) -
sure[/notice]

-NanoRIPE- wrote:
[Normal]
00:02:311 (2) - add clap/whistle sampleset drum i guess? just dont make it blank cuz theres sound on it auto whistle
00:09:422 (4) - ^
00:11:200 (1) - ^
00:12:978 (4) - ^ ok i'll stop mentioning all hs stuff cuz i wont wasted my time ~ (basically you have to added clap/whistle drum on every big white tick ~) did some of my own hitsounding
00:33:645 (2,3) - fix blanket thx fixed in earlier mods~
00:55:645 (1,1) - avoid this kind of overlap ~ its clearly visible should still be fine in-game from snaking sliders

thank you guys!

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Vespirit

350 posts

Joined December 2014

Vespirit 2017-09-17T22:10:58+00:00

Jakomo73 wrote:
Hey m4m thing ye

HC's Insane
00:21:422 (5,6) - should turn this into a 1/4 slider imo since you've mapped this rhythm with two 1/4 sliders the previous times, and I'm not sure what's worth emphasizing at 00:21:533 - its to create a kinda build up to the louder part which comes next
00:23:645 - lower hitsound volume since the finishes are so loud. At least for the places with finishes, but the hitsounds are fine for hitnormal. (if you accept, its also at 00:52:089 - 00:53:867 - hitsounds are copied from ultimatum diff, so i dont wanna change anything
01:03:200 (3) - should make this two repeats like at 01:01:422 (3,4) - since it's the same sound at a different pitch okay
01:08:089 - lower hitsound volume for end of spinner since music is fading out i guess this is okay to change

good luck!

-NanoRIPE- wrote:
yo

[insane]
00:19:867 (7) - i feel the flow its kinda edgy,maybe just stack this on head of 00:18:645 (2) - instead for make it neat didnt stack but i did try and make the flow nicer
00:32:311 (7,1) - if you compare this with 01:00:756 (7,1) - which they had same internsity i think the jumps its too far imo nerfed it a little
00:49:533 (4) - convert this into one circle and a 1/4 slider? cuz the beat should be emphasize it more i follow the beat when its more prominent, and for parts like this not as much
00:56:756 (2,5) - the rhythm is so intense here and the way rhythm you used here looks cool but the pattern seems hard to read especially these stack ~ so maybe unstack it? or maybe make it overlapping perhaps? i dont think it is that hard to read tbh

thats all ~
GL!

Yugu wrote:
M4M from your q

HC's Insane
00:12:200 (5,1) - fix stack did the best i could
00:15:645 (5,6) - maybe their ds is a bit far i dont think so, plus this keeps it consistent with the other parts
00:16:089 (7) - ctrl g to better flow idk i think it flows better like this
00:17:422 (5,6) - ^^ ^
00:17:422 (5,8) - fix stack okay
00:28:200 (1,2) - why soooooooo far? its an intense part
00:45:867 (5,6) - ^^^ same reason as the other one
00:56:645 (1,2) - ^^ ^

sorry for late to mod your map cuz i reaaaaaaally busy in scahool recently
gl!

im sorry i took so long to answer mods ;-;

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Misery

260 posts

Joined February 2016

Misery 2017-09-19T03:37:26+00:00

M4M here we go~ (beginner modder so pls be patient)

Ultimatum

I see a lot of copy-pasta :eyes: apply the same mod to the other section if you wish.
00:10:311 (5,6) - isn't overlapping while 00:17:422 (5,6) does. A little inconsistent imo
00:22:756 (1,2,1,2) - I don't understand why they need 1/16s. although it's fine. The problem I had is there's only a 55ms window to move to the next reversing slider, which may be incredibly difficult.
00:28:756 (2,1) - the other part doesn't overlap 00:57:200 (2,1), another visual inconsistency
01:04:200 (1) - might consider removing NC since they're of the same beat snap anyway

HC's

00:12:200 (5,1) - :eyes: I know it's small, but they aren't properly on top of each other
00:32:978 (3,4) - might be confusing since they contain different amount of reverses

Chalwa's

Put kiai flashes on the second part if you're doing it on the first, too.
00:28:089 (1) - no sound? (still fine for playability though)
00:36:089 (1) - timing point volume here is set to 15% instead of the usual 50%
I like the concepts here ^^

Alphabet's

Put kiai flashes on the second part if you're doing it on the first, too.
Not much to say, I am fine with this ^^

Mentai's

Good as well! ^^ Although the wave sliders (as you mentioned you hate) may consider a change, although it's fine as it is.

Sorry for a day late, I am very sick lately ^^

Hollow Delta

793 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Hollow Delta 2017-09-23T01:45:15+00:00

Misery wrote:
M4M here we go~ (beginner modder so pls be patient)

sorry late response. Somehow I completely forgot about your mod

Ultimatum
I see a lot of copy-pasta :eyes: apply the same mod to the other section if you wish.
00:10:311 (5,6) - isn't overlapping while 00:17:422 (5,6) does. A little inconsistent imo I don't see why this is an issue, as both fit.
00:22:756 (1,2,1,2) - I don't understand why they need 1/16s. although it's fine. The problem I had is there's only a 55ms window to move to the next reversing slider, which may be incredibly difficult. The best way to making these playable is to add a 1/8 gap between each buzz slider. Plus I think 55ms to hit is fine as the OD requires around 30ms of accuracy to play.
00:28:756 (2,1) - the other part doesn't overlap 00:57:200 (2,1), another visual inconsistency You don't explain why this is an issue, so I don't feel the need to fix this.
01:04:200 (1) - might consider removing NC since they're of the same beat snap anyway The NC has more uses than just distance. The spike in SV could be better anticipated through NC so it still serves a purpose.

Sorry for a day late, I am very sick lately ^^

thx for the mod.

Chalwa

1,105 posts

Joined August 2014

Chalwa 2017-10-10T19:13:14+00:00

Zectro wrote:
Ingame PM M4M Request

[Chalwa's Light Insane]
00:03:645 (4) - Make this a note like 00:01:867 (4) - or silence the slider end, as it's mapped to nothing and unnecessary.

00:07:756 (2,3,4) - 00:09:533 (2,3,4) - 00:36:200 (2,3,4) - 00:37:978 (2,3,4) - I feel like all the sounds on these slider ends should be clickable, just like they are from 00:11:200 - on. What makes me specially point this out is that they are also clickable on 00:14:756 - . Ok, but it's just Light Insane,
so I don't want to make doubles spam.

00:08:978 (6) - NC for readability. Same goes for 00:10:756 (6) - and any other instances of this pattern.

00:28:089 (1) - 00:56:533 (1) - Follows no sound and should be deleted as it confuses the player. It isn't really bad thing tho, cause it's much better rhythm with this one notes"

00:36:089 (1) - Too far away from 00:36:200 (2) - , make it x0.64 like your other doubles I can't see really bad think here :c.

00:36:089 - Fix the green timing point's volume, shouldn't be 15%

Jakomo73 wrote:

Chalwa's Light Insane
00:36:089 - raise hitsound vol please D:
01:03:089 (2,1,2) - turn these into doubles to emphasize the drums? They have two "beeps" anyway and you've mapped those with doubles quite a bit before
01:02:756 (1) - maybe make spacing from 4 higher? Player doesn't have to do anything different or even really notices the change in spacing since it's not that different
01:08:089 - lower hitsound volume for end of spinner since music is fading out

good luck!

Misery wrote:
M4M here we go~ (beginner modder so pls be patient)

Chalwa's
Put kiai flashes on the second part if you're doing it on the first, too.
00:28:089 (1) - no sound? (still fine for playability though) Yea, i just put it here, cause rhythm is much bteer than without.
00:36:089 (1) - timing point volume here is set to 15% instead of the usual 50%
I like the concepts here ^^

Sorry for a day late, I am very sick lately ^^

Sorry for be late >.<.

Chalwa's Dif

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Vespirit

350 posts

Joined December 2014

Vespirit 2017-10-11T00:00:18+00:00

Misery wrote:
M4M here we go~ (beginner modder so pls be patient)

HC's
00:12:200 (5,1) - :eyes: I know it's small, but they aren't properly on top of each other fixed now
00:32:978 (3,4) - might be confusing since they contain different amount of reverses agree, i changed it so that there is only one reverse like the other one in this section

Sorry for a day late, I am very sick lately ^^

update

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Alexsander

1,081 posts

Joined November 2016

Alexsander 2017-10-17T17:44:57+00:00

Normal

00:27:200 (1) - it was very strange that note you could leave like this https://prnt.sc/gyln9e I felt that the blue tick became more apparent to the beat than the red tick.
00:55:645 (1) - same thing here

Hard

00:05:311 - is not making any sound, it would be better to reduce that note 00: 04: 978 (3) - to the red tick

I'm not good with higher difficulties I'm sorry

There were few errors and the map is very good
Good luck

Yusomi

553 posts

Joined March 2014

Yusomi 2017-10-20T04:45:41+00:00

Chalwa's Light Insane

00:11:867 (1,2) - the sounds here are different from 00:11:533 (3,4) - and the others, maybe just use a 1/4 slider or something
00:13:422 (4,1) - these objects should use drum claps like the previous pattern
00:18:978 (1,2) - again i dont think its right to map these the same as 00:18:311 (1,2) - since the sounds are different

HC's Insane

00:08:533 (5,6) - spacings pretty high here, looks out of place compared to other spacing choices
00:13:645 (3) - maybe move it up a little to avoid that overlap with 00:12:978 (1) -
00:35:311 (5,6) - why are these stacked? by doing this you imply that 6 is a weaker sound than the largely spaced objects, but it's not. so i dont think stacking them is the best way to represent the music here
01:00:978 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the music goes calm here so you would expect spacing to be reduced. then music gets intense immediately afterwards like here 01:02:756 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - but you reduce the spacing to stacks. I think this actually contradicts the music. maybe switch the ideas here. stack the 1/4s in that first section and spaced the 1/4s in the second one. something like this

ultimatum

maybe just me but ultimatum is a strange choice for a diff name. An ultimatum is like a final decision that must be made. Maybe just make diff name Ultimate?

00:14:756 (1,2,3) - by doing this you imply that 1 2 and 3 are mapping sounds of equal imprtance, but the strong sounds are on the white and blue ticks, but not the red. so i don't think this pattern is expressing the music accurately.
00:20:422 (3) - there's a strong beat on the white tick here, imo doesn't feel right to ignore it
01:04:089 (1,2,1,2,1) - this will be unexpected and rage inducing for the level of players that will be playing this map. Just want you to be aware of this when making your decision to keep it or not.

good luck !

Mentai

472 posts

Joined June 2016

Mentai 2017-10-20T18:17:10+00:00

TheBenderGamer wrote:
Normal

00:27:200 (1) - it was very strange that note you could leave like this https://prnt.sc/gyln9e I felt that the blue tick became more apparent to the beat than the red tick. I'm following the baseline rhythm through this whole map, which is mostly a 4:3 polyrhythm. At no point in this baseline type difficulty do i think it's appropriate to deviate to 16th notes (blue ticks). What you pointed out is not appropriate for how i designed extended sliders in this difficulty
00:55:645 (1) - same thing here^

no change

Hollow Delta

793 posts

Joined March 2015

Topic Starter

Hollow Delta 2017-10-25T05:34:08+00:00

Yusomi wrote:
ultimatum
maybe just me but ultimatum is a strange choice for a diff name. An ultimatum is like a final decision that must be made. Maybe just make diff name Ultimate?

00:14:756 (1,2,3) - by doing this you imply that 1 2 and 3 are mapping sounds of equal imprtance, but the strong sounds are on the white and blue ticks, but not the red. so i don't think this pattern is expressing the music accurately.
00:20:422 (3) - there's a strong beat on the white tick here, imo doesn't feel right to ignore it
01:04:089 (1,2,1,2,1) - this will be unexpected and rage inducing for the level of players that will be playing this map. Just want you to be aware of this when making your decision to keep it or not.

good luck !

Fixed everything.

Explanation for diff naming: Your definition of Ultimatum is correct. Playing the map is a choice by the player. The player makes a final decision to play the final diff.

With 'Ultimate' being the given alternative, I figured since the 'ult' in Ultimate means extreme, or 'beyond' (Beyond expectations) I put the two together to create an 'Extreme decision'

The prefix 'ult' could be used to describe something futuristic, and I figured where this game came from the connotation felt necessary. While 'Extreme Decision' could be applied to every map, the futuristic connotation of Ultimatum works for this case.

Chalwa

1,105 posts

Joined August 2014

Chalwa 2017-10-29T11:34:36+00:00

Yusomi wrote:
Chalwa's Light Insane
00:11:867 (1,2) - the sounds here are different from 00:11:533 (3,4) - and the others, maybe just use a 1/4 slider or something
00:13:422 (4,1) - these objects should use drum claps like the previous pattern
00:18:978 (1,2) - again i dont think its right to map these the same as 00:18:311 (1,2) - since the sounds are different

good luck !

Only hitsound is fixed. Why? Because it's a RHTYHM game, not SOUND game, so I think rhythm in this map is 100% fine. That's why there're no changes c:.

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Aistre

Beatmap Nominator

614 posts

Joined September 2014

Aistre 2017-10-31T19:09:32+00:00

@Misery fixed the kiai flashes

@TheBenderGamer there is a sound there?

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 21867
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.5
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 4089,21867,36089,59200
DistanceSpacing: 1.3
BeatDivisor: 8
GridSize: 8
TimelineZoom: 1.799999

[Metadata]
Title:BGM_STG1_BOSS
TitleUnicode:BGM_STG1_BOSS
Artist:Taito
ArtistUnicode:Taito
Creator:Bubblun
Version:Alphabet's Hard
Source:Space Invaders Extreme 2
Tags:mentai hydrocannon13 chalwa alphabet ds arcade nintendo stage background
BeatmapID:1389564
BeatmapSetID:628857

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:3.9
OverallDifficulty:6
ApproachRate:7
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SliderTickRate:1

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//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
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//Storyboard Sound Samples

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