This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Montag, 26. Dezember 2011 at 22:56:40

Artist: EastNewSound
Title: Muenbuyou =/= Juunkan
Source: Touhou
Tags: nayuta touhou nuclear fusion split theory okuu caution reiuji utsuho
BPM: 165
Filesize: 15494kb
Play Time: 00:00
Difficulties Available:

1. Collab (0 stars, 0 notes)
2. Neutronic (5 stars, 1062 notes)
3. Ono's Taiko Oni (5 stars, 1900 notes)

Download: EastNewSound - Muenbuyou =/= Juunkan
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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3rd Beatmap by Vortex (ZantoLP)
Lyric-Version of Nuclear Fusion
Going to be Approved

Taiko Diff by
OnosakiHito / Great Thanks!

Collab Diff by
marshall_racer 01:45:097 - 2:34:188
Luna 00:46:915 - 01:10:188 and 03:09:097 - 03:33:824
Vortex 00:00:00 - 00:46:915
x3Touche 03:34:188 - 04:31:279
Mikumiku97 01:10:279 - 01:45:006

Storyboard by
Loctav / Great Thanks!

Hitsounds by
jericho2442

Please redownload if downloaded before 04/09/2011

Mappers for guest diffs required.
Mappers for collab diff required.

Still needs improvement, but so far so good.
I like the song.<3
Keep on workin' on it!

greetz,
psy

Irc Mod lol..
Maybe i can join ur Collab Team ~ .. dunno if i have the time
let's see

You're welcome if you want to join my collab team

Gave Kudos.

OnosakiHito wrote:

Taiko Diff by OnosakiHito (reserved)

Honestly, this feels awesome. <3

I'm very glad about this <3
Hope you will have alot of FUN with this map For me it was difficult to map a song with such a length for the first time,
but finally it is finished

00:50:551 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - not recommended, since sliderpaths cover hitcircles
01:38:370 (2,3,4) - seems strange to me
03:38:370 (8,9) - hidden slider is hidden ;_;

well, this were some outstanding issues, that were bothering me the most
call me for a recheck of your diff. when it's in pending

Thank you for modding marshall, you have earned a Kudos and a mod :3

I loved it and as I said before, I couldnt find anything.

our message is too short.

- Some of these circles just feel too far apart to be clicked without a lot of trial and error. The 2, 3, & 4 at 00:50:006 are a good example. I know you're going for a hard difficulty, but it might be a good idea to tone things down.
- 00:50:551 (1,1,1,1): These don't fit the beat of the lyrics or music well.
- 01:02:915 (5): Maybe have three 1/4 circles in a row here to go with the stuttering lyrics, instead of at 01:03:097?
- The break at 03:46:006 goes on for almost 30 seconds. It should ideally be half that length.

[Neutronic]
Not for ranking right? 30mil is not rankable lol.
Oh and the BG has to be 1024x768
This is just a pet peeve of mine, but don't let things touch.

00:08:546 (4,5) - If you bring these two down a grid, (5) won't touch (3) lol
00:22:910 (6) - Instead of a sure to be bad spiral, try this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/137707
00:24:546 (6) - Aim this slider down, so it doesn't touch (2) of next combo.
00:28:001 (1) - Aim this one up. Doesn't touch much, but it looks better.

Ok you know what who cares.

01:16:006 (1,2) - A grid up, it's spaced wrong.
01:24:733 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Instead of combo spam, separate the columns with combos.
03:11:279 (8) - No don't do this, space it right.
03:34:733 (3) - Do this here instead: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/137721
03:38:188 (7) - This a grid down
03:38:370 (8) - And this one to the right. Then stack what's after or whatever.

You know, I really can't tell if your combos are really spammed or not. But.. I guess a person better at combos will tell.
Some techniques seem like the same as noobs use, but it's fine.

AND IT'S UGLY, BUT AGAIN IT'S FINE /me cries in corner.

OzzyOzrock wrote:

[Neutronic]
Not for ranking right? 30mil is not rankable lol. yes
Oh and the BG has to be 1024x768 I will try to fix it
This is just a pet peeve of mine, but don't let things touch.

00:08:546 (4,5) - If you bring these two down a grid, (5) won't touch (3) lol
00:22:910 (6) - Instead of a sure to be bad spiral, try this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/137707
00:24:546 (6) - Aim this slider down, so it doesn't touch (2) of next combo.
00:28:001 (1) - Aim this one up. Doesn't touch much, but it looks better.

Ok you know what who cares.

01:16:006 (1,2) - A grid up, it's spaced wrong.
01:24:733 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Instead of combo spam, separate the columns with combos.
03:11:279 (8) - No don't do this, space it right.
03:34:733 (3) - Do this here instead: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/137721
03:38:188 (7) - This a grid down
03:38:370 (8) - And this one to the right. Then stack what's after or whatever.

You know, I really can't tell if your combos are really spammed or not. But.. I guess a person better at combos will tell.
Some techniques seem like the same as noobs use, but it's fine. I'm also not as good as others in making combos, so I'll hope also to have help xD

AND IT'S UGLY I hope you don't mean the map xP, BUT AGAIN IT'S FINE /me cries in corner.

Thx Again

Some mentionings... I'll mod it properly later on, maybe I'll join in guest diff-collab, but I can't map ENS properly on greater parts °A°

Broetchen8441 wrote:

Some mentionings... I'll mod it properly later on, maybe I'll join in guest diff-collab, but I can't map ENS properly on greater parts °A°

Ok, then we should wait that we can seperate the parts in 40seconds - 1 minute! I'm glad to hear that you would join us and also that you will mod my map

Thx

Hi, take all suggestions you want, or leave them if you don't like. I'm rusty at modding.

[General]

Remove combo colors 2 and 3, it is not necessary to repeat it.
Background image should be 800x600 or 1024x768, re-size it.
Please put hit-sounds, it is very bland.
Put a preview point in your map.

[Neutronic]

00:03:274 (1) - Cut down the volume to around 30%? It is ear-grating to keep hearing the soft-hit in a stream like that so early with the song barely starting.
00:22:915 (6) - Slider looks kind of ugly to me.
00:54:460 (6,7) - Spaced too closely.
00:55:642 (1) - Starting here, you are just mapping to the instrumentals, which has been going on since the beginning. Try mapping to the vocals for more variety instead of stream stream stream steam? Or at least combine the two.
01:21:824 (1) - ^, etc. I won't point out the other places this happens because it will be obvious.
01:39:642 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Not appealing to the eye!
01:51:642 (3) - Make it just a hit-circle?
02:30:188 (1,2,3) - Make it symmetrical to 02:30:551 (4,5,6).
03:32:006 (11) - NC.
04:06:915 (6,7,8,9,10) - Ugly spacing, (6,7) are far from (8).
05:18:915 (5) - Make this slider cleaner, pull the pins more, like the left one more right.
05:19:824 (6,7,8,1) - This does not fit at all to me, IMO. Delete it and pull the previous slider longer to the next white tick, silence or lower the volume significantly and end it there.

Meh, ich mach bei der Collab mit wenn ich darf (:
Vermutlich modde ich die Map auch noch in den nächsten Tagen~

Senbon wrote:

Hi, take all suggestions you want, or leave them if you don't like. I'm rusty at modding.

[General]

Remove combo colors 2 and 3, it is not necessary to repeat it.
Background image should be 800x600 or 1024x768, re-size it.
Please put hit-sounds, it is very bland.
Put a preview point in your map.

[Neutronic]

00:03:274 (1) - Cut down the volume to around 30%? It is ear-grating to keep hearing the soft-hit in a stream like that so early with the song barely starting.
00:22:915 (6) - Slider looks kind of ugly to me.
00:54:460 (6,7) - Spaced too closely.
00:55:642 (1) - Starting here, you are just mapping to the instrumentals, which has been going on since the beginning. Try mapping to the vocals for more variety instead of stream stream stream steam? Or at least combine the two.
01:21:824 (1) - ^, etc. I won't point out the other places this happens because it will be obvious.
01:39:642 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Not appealing to the eye!
01:51:642 (3) - Make it just a hit-circle?
02:30:188 (1,2,3) - Make it symmetrical to 02:30:551 (4,5,6).
03:32:006 (11) - NC.
04:06:915 (6,7,8,9,10) - Ugly spacing, (6,7) are far from (8).
05:18:915 (5) - Make this slider cleaner, pull the pins more, like the left one more right.
05:19:824 (6,7,8,1) - This does not fit at all to me, IMO. Delete it and pull the previous slider longer to the next white tick, silence or lower the volume significantly and end it there.

Thx, Hitsounds will follow with the one, who will make them

I demand to map 1:45:097 'till 2:34:118 in the collab for sure
you can still throw other random parts at me though :3

I'll take 02:34:188 - - 03:08:915
and
04:31:642 - 05:20:370 -

Your message is too short.
Your message is too short.
Your message is too short.

ignore it, cleared it in irc
organization is just pure awesomeness
and i'm serious

marshall_racer wrote:

marshall_racer wrote:

1:45:097 'till 2:46:006

ShadowSoul wrote:

02:21:511 - 03:08:915

i can't see how this will fit

he will change it

Vortex wrote:

he will change it

derp, i'm confused

00:46:915 - 01:10:188
03:09:097 - 03:33:824

Message too short >///<

Taiko guest diff. finished.
Your message is too short.



Download: EastNewSound - Muenbuyou == Juunkan (Vortex) [Ono's Taiko Oni].osu

OnosakiHito wrote:

Taiko guest diff. finished.
Your message is too short.

There is no Background? o.O Or what i have to do now?
But Thanks first, I submitted it now! (I'm submitting it in this moment xD)

Vortex wrote:

OnosakiHito wrote:

Taiko guest diff. finished.
Your message is too short.

There is no Background? o.O Or what i have to do now?
But Thanks first, I submitted it now! (I'm submitting it in this moment xD)

Den BG aus seinem Post einfach in den Ordner speichern (aber vorher draufklicken, damit es nicht die verkleinerte Version speichert)

[Neutronic]
*00:27:824 - Add a note?
*00:51:097 - Ugly circle
*01:41:097 - Ugly slider

Mmm... If you want put hitsound send me a pm

Good luck ! ♥

Mikumiku97 wrote:

[Neutronic]
*00:27:824 - Add a note?
*00:51:097 - Ugly circle
*01:41:097 - Ugly slider

Mmm... If you want put hitsound send me a pm

Good luck ! ♥

Thx, but I'm waiting for someone now, who could make the hitsounds
If this person won't make the hitsounds I will send you a PM

Da ich ja das SB mache, nehm ich mir einfach mal das Taiko Template und Onos Diff und füge sie meinem Ordner hinzu. Du musst sowieso alles full submitten, wenn ich mit dem SB fertig bin :'D

Kleiner Vorgeschmack D: Lustig drehende Orbs, Verzerrungen und Lyrics.. lol


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(Es gibt doch mehr als die 'Neutronic' Diff oder? XD Weil ihr alle von nem Collab sprecht @_@)
Es wär noch klasse, wenn du bereits alle .osu Datein anlegen (also alle Diffs, damit sie im Map-Listing auftauchen) und es full submitten würdest.
Da Ono's Taiko Diff aus dem Storyboard rausfällt, muss ich das fertige SB in jede Diff manuell einfügen (außer halt in die Taiko). Ist zwar nur Copy+Paste, aber so kann ich dir am Ende leichter das Endprodukt geben und wir müssen später nicht rumwurschteln, wenn mehr Diffs dazu kommen, lol.

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Just a raw lookthrough ;D

[Neutronic]
Somehow the hitsounds are too quiet and only uses 'soft' ones. But since I know someone else will do this part, uhm, yeh...
And the combo colours are boring. But this is just my personal taste, duh.

00:51:824 (2) - Place on slider end of 00:52:006 (1) - ? Looks better for me D:
00:19:279 (6) - new combo?
00:20:733 (1) - remove combo?
00:21:092 (1) - new combo?
00:53:460 (1) - remove combo?
01:09:460 (1) - ^
01:23:097 (5) - new combo?
01:38:188 (1) - remove combo?
01:38:915 (3) - new combo?
01:39:642 (3) - remove combo?
01:42:006 (1) - ^
02:59:279 (5) - new combo?
03:16:006 (2) - remove combo?
03:16:370 (1) - ^
03:53:097 (1,1) - so many spinners look boring imho D: this part is full with boring spinners anyways, which don't fit. ;3; Please reduce them
04:24:370 (1,1) - ^
04:38:188 (1,1) - ^
05:12:188 (1) - remove combo?
05:12:370 (1) - ^

[Ono's Taiko Oni]
Duh, viele Random misses und Ruckelei XD

Overall Difficulty -1? Meine Acc ist zwar fürn Arsch, aber die Noten lassen sich echt nur mühsam gut treffen.

00:52:370 (3) - remove?
00:55:460 (2,3) - remove?
05:25:825 (3) - kat?
05:28:734 (4) - kat?

Loctav wrote:

Da ich ja das SB mache, nehm ich mir einfach mal das Taiko Template und Onos Diff und füge sie meinem Ordner hinzu. Du musst sowieso alles full submitten, wenn ich mit dem SB fertig bin :'D

Kleiner Vorgeschmack D: Lustig drehende Orbs, Verzerrungen und Lyrics.. lol

SPOILER

SPOILER

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(Es gibt doch mehr als die 'Neutronic' Diff oder? XD Weil ihr alle von nem Collab sprecht @_@)
Es wär noch klasse, wenn du bereits alle .osu Datein anlegen (also alle Diffs, damit sie im Map-Listing auftauchen) und es full submitten würdest.
Da Ono's Taiko Diff aus dem Storyboard rausfällt, muss ich das fertige SB in jede Diff manuell einfügen (außer halt in die Taiko). Ist zwar nur Copy+Paste, aber so kann ich dir am Ende leichter das Endprodukt geben und wir müssen später nicht rumwurschteln, wenn mehr Diffs dazu kommen, lol.

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Just a raw lookthrough ;D

[Neutronic]
Somehow the hitsounds are too quiet and only uses 'soft' ones. But since I know someone else will do this part, uhm, yeh...
And the combo colours are boring. But this is just my personal taste, duh.

00:51:824 (2) - Place on slider end of 00:52:006 (1) - ? Looks better for me D:
00:19:279 (6) - new combo?
00:20:733 (1) - remove combo?
00:21:092 (1) - new combo?
00:53:460 (1) - remove combo?
01:09:460 (1) - ^
01:23:097 (5) - new combo?
01:38:188 (1) - remove combo?
01:38:915 (3) - new combo?
01:39:642 (3) - remove combo?
01:42:006 (1) - ^
02:59:279 (5) - new combo?
03:16:006 (2) - remove combo?
03:16:370 (1) - ^
03:53:097 (1,1) - so many spinners look boring imho D: this part is full with boring spinners anyways, which don't fit. ;3; Please reduce them
04:24:370 (1,1) - ^
04:38:188 (1,1) - ^
05:12:188 (1) - remove combo?
05:12:370 (1) - ^

[Ono's Taiko Oni]

SPOILER

Duh, viele Random misses und Ruckelei XD

Overall Difficulty -1? Meine Acc ist zwar fürn Arsch, aber die Noten lassen sich echt nur mühsam gut treffen.

00:52:370 (3) - remove?
00:55:460 (2,3) - remove?
05:25:825 (3) - kat?
05:28:734 (4) - kat?

Danke und wow, der Wahnsinn! das muss gesagt sein^^
Also das mit der Collab werden wir so früh wie möglich hinbiegen! Versprochen

Vortex wrote:

Also das mit der Collab werden wir so früh wie möglich hinbiegen! Versprochen

*hüstel*
1:45:097 - 2:34:118
03:34:188 - 04:31:279
vielen dank

[Neutronic]
- From 00:03:279 to 00:08:915, maybe lower the volume 35%? Then to 45% from 00:09:097 to 00:17:460, then gradually go louder? (I don't know, they sound too loud at these parts)
- 00:51:824 this isn't perfectly stacked. To fix it, scale it by 0.935. This'll make it look almost perfect (sorry, I'm a perfectionist with these things)
- 01:07:097 in my opinion, this spinner breaks the flow of the map
- why is from 01:24:733 to 01:26:006 not perfectly stacked, but 01:26:188 to 01:27:460 is? Isn't it the same pattern?
- 01:31:097 (5, 6, etc) aren't perfectly stacked. Scale 5 by 0.967 and scale 6 by 0.966
- why do 02:27:279 (1, 2, 3) look different than 02:27:642 (4, 5, 6)? It just looks confusing to me >.<
- 02:57:460 Weird new combo?
- 03:22:551 shorten to 03:23:642, and then add two notes after?
- 05:12:188 random new combo?

[Taiko]
Sadly, I don't play taiko so I can't mod it.

[General]
Would you maybe like to add a few colors?
color 1: yellow
color 2: it's red, but go down a few shades to get mahogany
color 3: it's red
color4: it's aqua, but a few shades darker

Celeste76 wrote:

[Neutronic]
- From 00:03:279 to 00:08:915, maybe lower the volume 35%? Then to 45% from 00:09:097 to 00:17:460, then gradually go louder? (I don't know, they sound too loud at these parts)
- 00:51:824 this isn't perfectly stacked. To fix it, scale it by 0.935. This'll make it look almost perfect (sorry, I'm a perfectionist with these things)
- 01:07:097 in my opinion, this spinner breaks the flow of the map
- why is from 01:24:733 to 01:26:006 not perfectly stacked, but 01:26:188 to 01:27:460 is? Isn't it the same pattern?
- 01:31:097 (5, 6, etc) aren't perfectly stacked. Scale 5 by 0.967 and scale 6 by 0.966
- why do 02:27:279 (1, 2, 3) look different than 02:27:642 (4, 5, 6)? It just looks confusing to me >.<
- 02:57:460 Weird new combo?
- 03:22:551 shorten to 03:23:642, and then add two notes after?
- 05:12:188 random new combo?

[Taiko]
Sadly, I don't play taiko so I can't mod it.

[General]
Would you maybe like to add a few colors?
color 1: yellow
color 2: it's red, but go down a few shades to get mahogany
color 3: it's red
color4: it's aqua, but a few shades darker

Thanks

It should stay with 2 colors

Vortex wrote:

Thanks

It should stay with 2 colors

I still agree with Celeste. At least make three ones. And make the two slightly darker. Those default 'yellow' and 'red' looks cheap, imho. D:

- Ein paar Spinner zu viel nach meinem Geschmack, wirkt an den Stellen etwas faul ^^
00:08:728 (5,1) - 5 und startpunkt von 1 in einer Linie
00:09:637 (3,4,5) - spacing
00:22:546 (5,6) - Überlappung
00:27:824 - ich würd da noch etwas platzieren
00:46:910 (1, ...) - bin mir nicht sicher ob das sliderende auf dem blauen tick passt, von der musik her gehts eig. nur bis zum roten
00:51:279 (1) - 3 grids nach rechts?
00:52:006 (1,2) - little overlapping, würds so platzieren dass der obere Rand vom circle (3) nicht verdeckt wird
00:52:733 (1,1) - vielleicht größerer abstand
02:42:733 (9,10) - würde den Abstand da unter Umständen nicht so groß wählen, da vorher auch keine größeren Sprünge waren
02:48:006 (8,11) - die überlappung da stört
02:48:551 (11,1,2,3,4,5,6) - 02:49:279 (2) - 1 grid rechts
02:50:188 - circle/slider hier setzen
02:57:460 (1,1) - in eine horizontale linie bringen, oder direkt übereinander platzieren
03:18:915 (1,1) - Überlappung
03:35:279 (5,7) - ^
04:04:370 (4) - weiter nach links?
04:06:370 (1,2,3,4,5) - halte ich für problematisch, da mn nicht direkt sieht in welcher Reihenfolge man was drücken muss
05:11:279 (11,1) - Abstand vergrößern oder bei 05:11:460 ein circle platzieren

MoonShade wrote:

- Ein paar Spinner zu viel nach meinem Geschmack, wirkt an den Stellen etwas faul ^^
00:08:728 (5,1) - 5 und startpunkt von 1 in einer Linie
00:09:637 (3,4,5) - spacing
00:22:546 (5,6) - Überlappung
00:27:824 - ich würd da noch etwas platzieren
00:46:910 (1, ...) - bin mir nicht sicher ob das sliderende auf dem blauen tick passt, von der musik her gehts eig. nur bis zum roten
00:51:279 (1) - 3 grids nach rechts?
00:52:006 (1,2) - little overlapping, würds so platzieren dass der obere Rand vom circle (3) nicht verdeckt wird
00:52:733 (1,1) - vielleicht größerer abstand
02:42:733 (9,10) - würde den Abstand da unter Umständen nicht so groß wählen, da vorher auch keine größeren Sprünge waren
02:48:006 (8,11) - die überlappung da stört
02:48:551 (11,1,2,3,4,5,6) -

SPOILER

02:49:279 (2) - 1 grid rechts
02:50:188 - circle/slider hier setzen
02:57:460 (1,1) - in eine horizontale linie bringen, oder direkt übereinander platzieren
03:18:915 (1,1) - Überlappung
03:35:279 (5,7) - ^
04:04:370 (4) - weiter nach links?
04:06:370 (1,2,3,4,5) - halte ich für problematisch, da mn nicht direkt sieht in welcher Reihenfolge man was drücken muss
05:11:279 (11,1) - Abstand vergrößern oder bei 05:11:460 ein circle platzieren

Auch ein Danke an dich Jedoch bin ich zurzeit im Stress, kann also dauern alle Mods abzurackern xD

Storyboard is now finished.
Thanks to Loctav for this great job!

Everyone now needs to reDL the whole map. Please add a notification in the map description like: "Please redownload if downloaded before 04/09/2011"

Ok done!

Message too short?!? xD
Message too short
Message too short

Leute, need the Collab Diff parts in a few day if it's possible :3
After I will complete the Collab Diff with my part and submit it
Hope it will be a great Diff

[General]
- mp3 is currently at 320kbps, 128~192 would be rankable range, plz compress it
- Why there's a zip file in the song file? D: delete and full upload.
- Some diffs lacks preview time.
- Not sure if this can be used... but ≠ ?

I'm here to mod solo diff only.

- I guess the intro part can be further softened.
Here're some general issues that you should concern:

1) Spacing should be proportional to time interval between notes unless you feel like you need a jump.
In your diff I see that your spacing aren't constant at most of the time. Try to make it constant that you wouldn't mislead the players~

2) Sounding... you don't ever put a sounding in the diff? Try to make up some strong rhythm by clapping regularly, or put whistle on some of the note (though a soft whistle does not fit with this song)

3) Arrangement - besides sounding, you can also try to stacks sliders well~ I can see some of your variation and please keep putting efforts in.

Yeah I think you'll need somehow a remapping, but somehow the current situation shows some potential...and nice SB... :3

If you've finished just PM me for rechecking.

wmfchris wrote:

[General]
- mp3 is currently at 320kbps, 128~192 would be rankable range, plz compress it should I Zanto?
- Not sure if this can be used... but ≠ ? nope, osu can't submit the map then

sorry, i just had to xP

marshall_racer wrote:

wmfchris wrote:

[General]
- mp3 is currently at 320kbps, 128~192 would be rankable range, plz compress it should I Zanto?
- Not sure if this can be used... but ≠ ? nope, osu can't submit the map then

sorry, i just had to xP

Of course you can

neues offset : 415
alle sections müssen wieder gesnapped werden
...
das war's ^^

Link : http://puu.sh/5hhc

marshall_racer wrote:

neues offset : 415
alle sections müssen wieder gesnapped werden
...
das war's ^^

Link : http://puu.sh/5hhc

Ok, dankeschön

Jetzt fehlen noch die Collab Diff parts, die ich bei mir zusammensetzen werde (erst danach werde ich meinen Teil mappen)
Fragt sich nur, wie lange das noch dauert^^

I want to be in the Collab's team *-* I love the song :3 ~

Your message is too short.

x3Touche wrote:

I want to be in the Collab's team *-* I love the song :3 ~

Your message is too short.

Then take this part It's the last part standing

03:34:188 - 04:31:279

Thanks :3! *mapping his part*

Edit: My part is ready ;3 (I make it to 04:32:188, you can cut this or keep that, sry ;_;)

Your message is too short =w=

Download: EastNewSound - Muenbuyou == Juunkan (Vortex) [Collab].osu

Thx, earned Kudosu for you cooparation!

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