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at your req, sry for no stream:

Final Judgement


change diffname to "Final Judgment"

  1. 00:04:050 (5,6,1) - this rhythm change doesn't stand out that much when you had such a huge difference in motioning between 00:03:504 (3,4) - and 00:01:868 (3,4,5) - , if you match these arranges closer together it'll make for a nicer feeling (for an example, you do this sort of thing at 00:10:050 (3,4) - already)
  2. 00:12:504 (1,2) - this 1/1 reverse followed by 1/1 gap has like no motion to it and is really pacekilling, think you should just use a rhythm more similar to your normal thing in this section
  3. 00:28:050 (1,2,3) - and 00:31:322 (1,2,3) - are rly weirdfeeling extended sliders imo, they're kinda just random vocalbeats with not much to them, and then when you reach stuff like 00:36:231 (4,5,6) - and the extensions don't happen anymore, it further makes them stick out
  4. 00:40:322 (1) - due to the current small spacing and the increased sv of 00:39:504 (2) - , this has like no power at all to it even though it's a big vocal shout and new musical section
  5. 01:20:277 (4,5) - this jump is rly big for this part imo, since basically everything is winding down at this point in the song. save the big jump for something like 01:20:959 (7,8,1) - where things pick back up. similar thing for 04:03:913 (4,5) -
  6. 02:02:140 (1) - silly shape
  7. 02:02:959 (2,1) - this massive spacing and directionchange takes a lot of power away from the upcoming svchange, think you should rearrange this
  8. connecting 04:22:868 (1,2,3) - and 04:23:686 (4,5,6) - together in spacing and arranging is rly rly weird when you separated 04:22:050 (1,2,3) - from them already


ok big one: the 02:20:140 - second chorus section is rly weirdly mapped to me. you make it pretty clear in most ways that you don't rly see this being as powerful as your kiaistuffs, what with the lower overall rhythm density and rly long sliders, but you have a lot of snappy motions and big jumps still, so it still plays a lot like kiaistuffs. if you rly wanna make a more clear distinction that this section is more melodicfeeling and less powerful than your kiais, try taking out jumps like 02:23:822 (2,3,4,5) - and 02:25:459 (2,3) - , and instead rely more on slidertail leniencystuffs, so use arranges like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9775220 or something along those lines. still gives a pacing increase but is much smootherfeeling to fit this part of the song better

other than that, you have a habit of spiraling in the same direction for somewhat long periods of time, going just clockwise/counterclockwise over and over. it's not so bad that it makes for a poor play experience, but it does lead to some things not feeling as powerful as they would if you paid more mind to changing directions. just keep it in mind for future maps i suppose

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rio and ice


01:44:959 (2,3,4) - and 01:48:232 (2,3,4) - are odd rhythm choices, i don't rly hear anything of note on these redticks

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lore and ice


00:39:504 (4,1) - pretty big ww

sup qat you like my extensive bn worthy mods i hope so

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need a diff between the current advanced and hard. "advanced" is almost exclusively 1/1, while hard is primarily 1/2 and features jumps and svchanges and sliderleniencystuffs and stacking arranges and blahblah you get the idea.
advanced is just a normal, and the current normal is an easy. so rename them accordingly ^^'

diffs themselves are ok though

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gl
posted

UndeadCapulet wrote:

at your req, sry for no stream:

Final Judgement


change diffname to "Final Judgment" LOL nobody noticed that at all

  1. 00:04:050 (5,6,1) - this rhythm change doesn't stand out that much when you had such a huge difference in motioning between 00:03:504 (3,4) - and 00:01:868 (3,4,5) - , if you match these arranges closer together it'll make for a nicer feeling (for an example, you do this sort of thing at 00:10:050 (3,4) - already) made the contrast more clearer
  2. 00:12:504 (1,2) - this 1/1 reverse followed by 1/1 gap has like no motion to it and is really pacekilling, think you should just use a rhythm more similar to your normal thing in this section yea - added a circle as a filler
  3. 00:28:050 (1,2,3) - and 00:31:322 (1,2,3) - are rly weirdfeeling extended sliders imo, they're kinda just random vocalbeats with not much to them, and then when you reach stuff like 00:36:231 (4,5,6) - and the extensions don't happen anymore, it further makes them stick out imo i made them sick out enough with alot different spacing (and even different combo colors) - adding to that i dont want 00:36:231 (4,5,6) - to have the same feeling as theese you mentioned cause for me at 00:33:777 - a kinda buildup is happening in the music where theese pattern should change cause they dont give me the same feeling
  4. 00:40:322 (1) - due to the current small spacing and the increased sv of 00:39:504 (2) - , this has like no power at all to it even though it's a big vocal shout and new musical section remapped that intense part so i can better work around it ~
  5. 01:20:277 (4,5) - this jump is rly big for this part imo, since basically everything is winding down at this point in the song. save the big jump for something like 01:20:959 (7,8,1) - where things pick back up. similar thing for 04:03:913 (4,5) - i nerfed + buffed the part here and there but i dont think changing 04:03:913 (4,5) - is necessary since the contrast isnt too high
  6. 02:02:140 (1) - silly shape :(
  7. 02:02:959 (2,1) - this massive spacing and directionchange takes a lot of power away from the upcoming svchange, think you should rearrange this i need to diagree that it takes away the power there - the slider arent really fast and making it more stand out would be too surprising for the players
  8. connecting 04:22:868 (1,2,3) - and 04:23:686 (4,5,6) - together in spacing and arranging is rly rly weird when you separated 04:22:050 (1,2,3) - from them already i dont think so cause when the slider 04:21:231 (1,1,2,3) - wouldnt be there it would be 6 circles too like in the following patterns ~


ok big one: the 02:20:140 - second chorus section is rly weirdly mapped to me. you make it pretty clear in most ways that you don't rly see this being as powerful as your kiaistuffs, what with the lower overall rhythm density and rly long sliders, but you have a lot of snappy motions and big jumps still, so it still plays a lot like kiaistuffs. if you rly wanna make a more clear distinction that this section is more melodicfeeling and less powerful than your kiais, try taking out jumps like 02:23:822 (2,3,4,5) - and 02:25:459 (2,3) - , and instead rely more on slidertail leniencystuffs, so use arranges like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9775220 or something along those lines. still gives a pacing increase but is much smootherfeeling to fit this part of the song better i guess the idea is quite nice - ill lower the circle spacing overall in this part

other than that, you have a habit of spiraling in the same direction for somewhat long periods of time, going just clockwise/counterclockwise over and over. it's not so bad that it makes for a poor play experience, but it does lead to some things not feeling as powerful as they would if you paid more mind to changing directions. just keep it in mind for future maps i suppose uhh its kinda the gimmick in the map that it is so circular :/

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rio and ice


01:44:959 (2,3,4) - and 01:48:232 (2,3,4) - are odd rhythm choices, i don't rly hear anything of note on these redticks i guess its ok but i might change this later

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lore and ice


00:39:504 (4,1) - pretty big ww damn yea it is, baby (this is fine tho - i asked a few ppl to check this)

sup qat you like my extensive bn worthy mods i hope so :ok_hand:

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need a diff between the current advanced and hard. "advanced" is almost exclusively 1/1, while hard is primarily 1/2 and features jumps and svchanges and sliderleniencystuffs and stacking arranges and blahblah you get the idea.
advanced is just a normal, and the current normal is an easy. so rename them accordingly ^^' ill name the diffs like you said but adding another diff isnt really necessary imo cause you could argue too thati introduced high sv for the adv so calling is normal is risky two - in conclusion you could even argue that i should do another additional diff between adv + normal but since he adv is a "filler diff" in its own it would be too much imo

diffs themselves are ok though

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gl
Thanks alot :D appreciate it ^^ :)
posted
o he asked for some feedbox on normal difficulty (emphasis on difficulty)

2017-12-16 10:56 IceKalt: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1324311 Shikata Akiko - Katayoku no Tori [Kanan & Ice's Normal]]
2017-12-16 10:58 IceKalt: (uhh i remind that im struggling if i call this a normal/adv spread or a easy/normal spread)
2017-12-16 10:59 Trynna: haha easy diff with normal icon
2017-12-16 10:59 Trynna: is that me
2017-12-16 10:59 IceKalt: yea.
2017-12-16 11:00 IceKalt: i hate this :D
2017-12-16 11:00 Trynna: that was a joke cuz i have 2 ranked ez diffs with normal icon on both lol
2017-12-16 11:00 IceKalt: i guess i will stick to advanced in the end tho since a few sliders could be too hard for a "normal"
2017-12-16 11:01 Trynna: lemme see spread btw cuz usually easy with normal icon and normal with hard icon is not that common
2017-12-16 11:01 IceKalt: yea
2017-12-16 11:01 IceKalt: i just changed it due UCs request
2017-12-16 11:01 IceKalt: dont know if im stick to it tho
2017-12-16 11:01 Trynna: holy that sv
2017-12-16 11:03 Trynna: this song is so gud i can listen to it for hours
2017-12-16 11:03 IceKalt: me >making a 20 min set lol
2017-12-16 11:03 IceKalt: so kinda same :D
2017-12-16 11:04 Trynna: uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh yea
2017-12-16 11:04 Trynna: normal is really really harder than a normal shud b
2017-12-16 11:05 IceKalt: so adv would be better you say?
2017-12-16 11:05 IceKalt: (and ill name the easy normal again)
2017-12-16 11:05 IceKalt: like i did before i guess
2017-12-16 11:05 Trynna: the thing is
2017-12-16 11:05 Trynna: easy is a common easy
2017-12-16 11:05 Trynna: so it wouldn't fit as a normal
2017-12-16 11:05 Trynna: the thing with your normal is
2017-12-16 11:05 Trynna: spacing is really really big
2017-12-16 11:06 Trynna: and sv is kinda uuh death to all noobs
2017-12-16 11:06 IceKalt: hmm
2017-12-16 11:06 IceKalt: thats the compleat opposide what UC said btw :D
2017-12-16 11:06 Trynna: also shapes like 00:53:413 (1) - is not that greatful to newbies to go through
2017-12-16 11:07 IceKalt: o
2017-12-16 11:07 Trynna: honestly, i've been watchin a friend of mine that was learning stuff
2017-12-16 11:07 Trynna: so i had the chance to know what a newbie player feels like again
2017-12-16 11:07 Trynna: and yea it's just adasfdsadsa to them to go through things like that
2017-12-16 11:08 IceKalt: https://puu.sh/yHDfn/9d41819119.png
2017-12-16 11:08 IceKalt: thats what UC said btw
2017-12-16 11:08 IceKalt: now im a bit confused :D
2017-12-16 11:08 IceKalt: on what i should do
2017-12-16 11:08 Trynna: hm
2017-12-16 11:09 IceKalt: here he is saying that the hard is like too hard in comparison with the adv
2017-12-16 11:09 IceKalt: and you say the adv is too hard than the normal
2017-12-16 11:09 Trynna: uuh like
2017-12-16 11:10 IceKalt: i also dont want to change too much stuff cause i was originaly planning on calling mo for a recheck so he cam bubble
2017-12-16 11:10 IceKalt: with changing too much stuff i mean like adding a whole difficulty
2017-12-16 11:10 IceKalt: and i dont think thats necessary
2017-12-16 11:13 Trynna: i also don't believe stuff like 02:32:958 (8,1) - is a real thing to normal players
2017-12-16 11:13 Trynna: i mean you won't really see stuff like that on harder difficulties
2017-12-16 11:13 Trynna: flow could be improved
2017-12-16 11:14 Trynna: the other shapes are a bit harsh but they are ok
2017-12-16 11:15 IceKalt: hm i guess i will rename to advanced + normal again
2017-12-16 11:15 IceKalt: i mean
2017-12-16 11:15 Trynna: they would probably be shaking the cursor already, so putting some patterns like this 03:53:959 (5,6,7,8,1) - would be a free break
2017-12-16 11:15 IceKalt: i would love to name it easy + adv in the end
2017-12-16 11:16 Trynna: cuz 03:54:504 (7,8,1) - is a bit too much
2017-12-16 11:16 IceKalt: o
2017-12-16 11:16 Trynna: improving the curve would be :ok_hand:
2017-12-16 11:16 IceKalt: yea
2017-12-16 11:17 Trynna: i mean, if you consider that the easy diff has some high sv already, the only thing that could be hard to deal with would be the spacing
2017-12-16 11:17 Trynna: but easy does it 0.8 and u did 1x
2017-12-16 11:17 Trynna: so it's objectively whatever
2017-12-16 11:17 Trynna: you can go with easy - normal
2017-12-16 11:17 Trynna: but if you show it to a player and say
2017-12-16 11:17 Trynna: go and fc that shiet
2017-12-16 11:17 Trynna: he would prob have a lot of trouble
2017-12-16 11:18 IceKalt: thats why i would prefer calling it adv :D
2017-12-16 11:18 Trynna: you don't need to
2017-12-16 11:18 Trynna: just take that yo your future maps
2017-12-16 11:18 Trynna: to*
2017-12-16 11:18 IceKalt: k ~
2017-12-16 11:20 Trynna: oh also
2017-12-16 11:20 Trynna: is it really necessary to drop your nc pattern here 02:03:777 -
2017-12-16 11:20 Trynna: goes kinda agains the rest of the map
2017-12-16 11:20 IceKalt: yea
2017-12-16 11:20 IceKalt: :D
2017-12-16 11:21 IceKalt: thats right
2017-12-16 11:21 IceKalt: but i wanna somehow show
2017-12-16 11:21 Trynna: vocals i know
2017-12-16 11:21 IceKalt: that this part in the music is drasicly different
2017-12-16 11:21 Trynna: but idk if this really matters at this point
2017-12-16 11:21 IceKalt: so i wanna implement different combo colors
2017-12-16 11:21 Trynna: cuz other parts are also really different and intense and u just kept that pattern
2017-12-16 11:21 Trynna: like on kiai
2017-12-16 11:21 IceKalt: like i did in every diff
2017-12-16 11:22 IceKalt: yea but like
2017-12-16 11:22 IceKalt: 02:03:777 (1,2) -
2017-12-16 11:22 IceKalt: there are just 2 notes
2017-12-16 11:23 IceKalt: i guess its my way to try to emphasize the music
2017-12-16 11:23 IceKalt: in low diffs
2017-12-16 11:23 Trynna: what about covering 02:04:186 - since u did it on the other part tho
2017-12-16 11:23 Trynna: at least u wouldn't keep a whole combo with 2 objects
2017-12-16 11:24 IceKalt: hm
2017-12-16 11:24 IceKalt: thats a thing i could work with
2017-12-16 11:25 IceKalt: yea i change that
2017-12-16 11:25 Trynna: 03:47:686 (5,2) - aesthetics are cryin rn
2017-12-16 11:26 IceKalt: lol
2017-12-16 11:26 Trynna: ur not Trynna to overlap random stuff all the time u kno!?!
2017-12-16 11:26 IceKalt: but what if i am :eyes:
2017-12-16 11:27 Trynna: actually a joke but avoid those tiny accidentally
2017-12-16 11:27 Trynna: 04:16:322 (1,2) - thats weirddd
2017-12-16 11:27 Trynna: cuz actually u can cover a sound at 04:18:504 -
2017-12-16 11:27 Trynna: and the spacing also implies that the slider is there
2017-12-16 11:27 Trynna: and it is now so i tilt
2017-12-16 11:28 Trynna: spacing 04:26:959 (4,1) - tho
2017-12-16 11:28 IceKalt: but i wanna undermap :D
2017-12-16 11:29 IceKalt: o
2017-12-16 11:29 IceKalt: oups
2017-12-16 11:29 IceKalt: xD
2017-12-16 11:29 IceKalt: no
2017-12-16 11:29 IceKalt: wait
2017-12-16 11:29 IceKalt: it is right
2017-12-16 11:29 IceKalt: mo it is not nvm :D
2017-12-16 11:29 Trynna: yea but only cuz u changed sv
2017-12-16 11:29 IceKalt: no*
2017-12-16 11:30 Trynna: ok
2017-12-16 11:30 Trynna: lets talk about real shit now
2017-12-16 11:30 IceKalt: yea
2017-12-16 11:30 Trynna: imagine that
2017-12-16 11:31 Trynna: 04:17:959 - u just put a reverse like u did at 04:18:777 (2,3,4) -
2017-12-16 11:31 Trynna: which would subjectively be the right thing
2017-12-16 11:31 Trynna: cuz the section starts there and whatever
2017-12-16 11:31 Trynna: you would need to cover 04:18:504 -
2017-12-16 11:31 Trynna: so undermapping it to do all that shit right after is just inconsistent and weirdo
2017-12-16 11:32 IceKalt: is it inconsisten tho?
2017-12-16 11:32 IceKalt: cause i have it 04:16:322 (1) - too
2017-12-16 11:33 Trynna: i mean
2017-12-16 11:33 Trynna: the actual rhythm is something like that https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9777248
2017-12-16 11:33 Trynna: i don't see how 04:16:322 (1) - being a reverse would be a nice idea overall
2017-12-16 11:34 IceKalt: o yea kinda
2017-12-16 11:34 Trynna: and also u followed the drums on 04:15:777 (2,3) -
2017-12-16 11:34 IceKalt: i sounds better
2017-12-16 11:35 Trynna: and ignoring 04:17:413 - 04:17:686 - is lol?
2017-12-16 11:35 IceKalt: kinda yea
2017-12-16 11:35 IceKalt: i just noticed that too
2017-12-16 11:35 Trynna: also keepin 04:09:777 (1,2) - is really a trap
2017-12-16 11:35 IceKalt: that my friends
2017-12-16 11:35 IceKalt: is inconsistend
2017-12-16 11:35 Trynna: cuz spacing and shit
2017-12-16 11:35 IceKalt: yea
2017-12-16 11:35 Trynna: thats my main concern about the diff
2017-12-16 11:35 Trynna: rest is mainly ok
2017-12-16 11:36 Trynna: call me back when i can bubble
posted

-Mo- wrote:

General
- 02:20:140 - Why no kiai time? This seems to be a chorus thing like your other kiai times.

Riko & Phyl's
- 00:04:322 (5) - 00:10:868 (5) - I'd recommend some NCs around here somewhere since the current combos stretch over way too many measures.
- 00:28:050 - This beat seems significant enough to be mapped to me. I'd recommend a rhythm like you did at 00:31:322 (2,3).
- 00:43:322 - Similar thing, makes more sense to continue mapping here since your current rhythm is following the vocals anyway. i think here its nice to have a bigger gap because the following downbeat should really stand out because its very strong and special
- 02:03:777 (1, 2) - Might be better placing this pattern on the right side of the screen, since you already had it on the left at 00:40:322 (1,2).
- 03:41:959 (1) - I would avoid overlapping the tail with the body to make a more simple shape for beginners, since it could potentially confuse them.
else changed, thanks!
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posted
Recheck

Timing
== 03:40:819 - BPM change thing here sounds late to me, and then the switch back to 220 BPM also sounds slightly late.
== 00:57:231 - BPM change should be applied here too since the circles in the higher diff sound pretty late to me.
Looking at the CTB set that line should be around 211 BPM, but I can't seem to get that perfect, but either way the timing still needs adjustment. (Also double BPM lol, but Mir is gonna shoot me if I talk about this.)

Riko Phyl
- 01:59:959 (3) - Can't remember if this was like this last time, but I think 1/2 slider would work better here to fit the vocal notes.
- 02:26:686 (1,3) - This overlap may as well be avoided, kinda sticks out right now.

Kanan Ice
- 01:47:413 (1) - Has a slider whistle over it which seems unintentional.
- 03:58:049 (7,2) - Not super important, but if you can find a way to either avoid the overlap or stack it on the tail then this would look a lot neater.

As for diff names, given the star rating and tempo, I'm more inclined to say leave it as is. You can get more opinions on this if you want. Ideally the Advanced could've had more 1/2 rhythms to introduce, since Hard uses a lot of them now that I think about it.

Lore Ice
- 01:24:777 - Active clickable beat thing would've been better here since vocal is here, and current rhythm is putting emphasis on 01:24:913 instead.
- 01:26:550 (3,4) - Swapping rhythm would be better so that sliders follow the held notes etc etc.
- 02:28:322 (1,2,3,4) - This looks too cluttered and messy to me.
In fact, I think most of the overlaps in this 'chorus' are kind of odd choices. I understand you're interpreting this chorus to not be as intense as the other two, however I don't think it's so different that you should map with a structure that uses a lot of tail overlaps. It kinda sticks out too much in a messy kind of way when in my opinion the sections aren't too different.
- 02:49:595 (1,1) - Might as well avoid the tail overlapping the first slider there.

Rio Ice
- 00:23:959 (1) - Head seems to be missing whistle.
- 00:44:686 (4) - I'd either keep the shape simple, or don't obscure so much of the body, doing both could potentially throw some players off.
- 02:46:322 (1) - Almost burai depending on who you ask. I'd probably avoid making the loop thing so extreme, it looks weird to me anyway.
- 03:17:685 (2) - Seems to be missing whistle.

Second Judgment
- 01:31:050 (1) - Wondering if it's worth spacing this out to add more emphasis onto it.
- 03:50:959 - Seems to be missing whistle.

Seems mostly okay to me.

Double check your colourhaxing is as intended for all diffs too.

I'll probably hold off trying to nominate this for now on the grounds that even during a recheck I'm still finding a few problems and things that I don't really agree with in the lower diffs.
posted

-Mo- wrote:

Recheck

Timing
== 03:40:819 - BPM change thing here sounds late to me, and then the switch back to 220 BPM also sounds slightly late.
== 00:57:231 - BPM change should be applied here too since the circles in the higher diff sound pretty late to me.
Looking at the CTB set that line should be around 211 BPM, but I can't seem to get that perfect, but either way the timing still needs adjustment. (Also double BPM lol, but Mir is gonna shoot me if I talk about this.)

Kanan Ice
- 01:47:413 (1) - Has a slider whistle over it which seems unintentional.
- 03:58:049 (7,2) - Not super important, but if you can find a way to either avoid the overlap or stack it on the tail then this would look a lot neater. fixed

As for diff names, given the star rating and tempo, I'm more inclined to say leave it as is. You can get more opinions on this if you want. Ideally the Advanced could've had more 1/2 rhythms to introduce, since Hard uses a lot of them now that I think about it.

I'll probably hold off trying to nominate this for now on the grounds that even during a recheck I'm still finding a few problems and things that I don't really agree with in the lower diffs.
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posted

-Mo- wrote:

Recheck

Timing
== 03:40:819 - BPM change thing here sounds late to me, and then the switch back to 220 BPM also sounds slightly late.
== 00:57:231 - BPM change should be applied here too since the circles in the higher diff sound pretty late to me.
Looking at the CTB set that line should be around 211 BPM, but I can't seem to get that perfect, but either way the timing still needs adjustment. (Also double BPM lol, but Mir is gonna shoot me if I talk about this.) idk i get split opinons about that - ill try to ask more around

Kanan Ice
- 01:47:413 (1) - Has a slider whistle over it which seems unintentional. yea

As for diff names, given the star rating and tempo, I'm more inclined to say leave it as is. You can get more opinions on this if you want. Ideally the Advanced could've had more 1/2 rhythms to introduce, since Hard uses a lot of them now that I think about it. kanan introducing them pretty good now after the change

Lore Ice

- 02:28:322 (1,2,3,4) - This looks too cluttered and messy to me.
In fact, I think most of the overlaps in this 'chorus' are kind of odd choices. I understand you're interpreting this chorus to not be as intense as the other two, however I don't think it's so different that you should map with a structure that uses a lot of tail overlaps. It kinda sticks out too much in a messy kind of way when in my opinion the sections aren't too different.
since of many concers (and i dont wanna end like mun) i kinda remapped the whole 2nd chorus - i dont have overlaps in theese rythms anymore ( 02:20:959 (3,4,5) - as example) but still have somes at 02:39:777 (1,2,3) - but they dont look messy and i kinda still want to have some here and there

- 02:49:595 (1,1) - Might as well avoid the tail overlapping the first slider there. yea

Rio Ice
- 00:23:959 (1) - Head seems to be missing whistle. ahh so many hitsounds
- 00:44:686 (4) - I'd either keep the shape simple, or don't obscure so much of the body, doing both could potentially throw some players off. i think its ok (btw when a part in the song should throw some players off then this part ;) )
- 02:46:322 (1) - Almost burai depending on who you ask. I'd probably avoid making the loop thing so extreme, it looks weird to me anyway. erased the burai
- 03:17:685 (2) - Seems to be missing whistle. oups ~

Second Judgment
- 01:31:050 (1) - Wondering if it's worth spacing this out to add more emphasis onto it. idk tho - i like the pattern too much :(
- 03:50:959 - ahhh - too many hitsounds Seems to be missing whistle.

Seems mostly okay to me.

Double check your colourhaxing is as intended for all diffs too. its fine as it is - anything has a reason (for me) - would be useless to explain everything here since i could write a book about it (it is intenstional that it isnt consistend on every diff^^)

I'll probably hold off trying to nominate this for now on the grounds that even during a recheck I'm still finding a few problems and things that I don't really agree with in the lower diffs.
Thanks alot that you recheck - i try to improve the lower diffs as i can. thanks alot that you looked at the set!
posted
Hello guys! A mod from my really Casual Modding Queue. Modding 3 difficults since it was a condition from my rules :D

General
  1. All seems in order!


Riko&Phyl's Normal
  1. 00:31:322 (2,3,4) - There's a inconsistency with the DS here. Gladly, you only have to adjust the note to the actual DS and done :)
  2. Since you're following vocals in the beginning 01:50:686 (1,2,3) -, consider changing this pattern of 1 slider and 1 circle 01:55:595 (3) -. How? adjust the length to 01:56:140 - and put a note in the next white tick 01:56:413 -. In my opinion, this would emphasize way much better the rhythm, incluiding the hitsounding.
  3. 02:00:231 - This part feels awkward when you play it because you expect clicking something, I've told you before that seems you're using sliders to follow vocals. So, how would be it much better? I have two ideas. First of all, 01:59:959 - you can make a 1/2 slider here, or just make a simple circle here 02:00:231 - (First option is much better anyway, consider using that one at least) :P .
  4. 02:46:322 (1,1,1,1) - I have consulted to some friends of mine about this point. We consider that this is very difficult considering that is the lower diff in the mapset. We agreed that adding sliderart would be much better (like in the Advanced), also it will be more instuitive to the newbie players.
  5. 03:25:595 (1) - This object is off from my screen, it's just a minor problem. Just move it above a little bit!
  6. So is this pattern too 03:26:140 (2,3,4) -
  7. 03:43:595 (3) - I don't like to be Nazi at this point because I understand that sliders are more like an art expression and stuff but, Can you make it symmetrical in this case? the proportion is inconsistent, and I'm sure it would look prettier. If you have problems fixing it, you can adjust it removing the grid snap (that's the secret of many slider art)

    My opinion: I am very conformable with the result of this Normal in general. I noticed only general aspect in terms of mapping, not a big deal but not something to ignore at all. Well, I have my doubts. I felt like this a bit picky for newbies, there's a lot of 1/2 considering it's the lower difficult. Nothing else to say, I really liked it.


Kanan & Ice's Advanced
  1. When I testplayed this difficult, I did notice of a flow mistake here 00:10:868 (1,2) - I didn't like how it plays because I expected to go in the direction of the slider's tail. I understand that it's a Advanced but if you can fix it to make it more instuitive, I would do something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9817090
  2. 00:34:595 - There's a missing whistle in the head of the slider, since you did in 00:35:413 - I'd expect to hear a whistle for vocals there.
  3. 00:38:686 (3,4,1) - I don't like go "nazi" in this part of the beatmap but when people make polarized sliders like in this case, I would want to see two things, blankets or symmetry. You have everything to make a perfect circle with two sliders. See how it looks symmetrical and with (1) https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9817127
  4. 00:59:413 (2,3) - This look pretty boring vs 01:10:868 (4,5) - I would like to see both like in (4,5) Very good!
  5. 01:29:959 (3,4) - If you're going to use "straight" patterns, then you should align 01:30:231 (4) - with (3). Or even better, you can do something like 03:43:049 (2,3,4) -. It emphasizes really nice the downbeat.
  6. 01:46:868 (2) - Stack this note with 01:46:050 (2) - . This point is really optional but I think it looks prettier when you play it.
  7. 02:07:459 (2) - Hmmm, I don't know If this really intentional but I find it ugly tbh. I'd make something simplier like a https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9817205 (and it's the same idea!) :)
  8. 03:54:231 (6,7,8) - This rhythm is poor. It's because the strong vocal start 03:53:959 - and you started later. My suggestion is https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9817246 . Now compare this vs your actual pattern, I'm sure you'll agree with me.
  9. 04:32:959 (1,2,3,4,5) - I don't think I have to tell you that you must remove this for overmapping, I guess. :idea:

    My opinion: Actually, this is my favorite difficult, it's picky but at the same time very instuitive. I didn't have much problems modding it.


Lore&Ice's Hard
  1. 00:35:413 (1,2,3) - The reason why I pointed this is because of the DS. It's nothing related to the rhythm, it's good. But my reason is that after (1)
    comes (2) with a distance of 1/2 notes and even more, it's hardly visible to the players. My suggestion is to adjust (2) and (3) with DS 1,4 (your default one)
    https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9817356
  2. 02:41:413 (4) - Minor stuff but this is off from my screen, if you can move it above a little bit. So is this note 02:44:686 (4) -
  3. 03:31:186 (3,4) - Minor stuff: Polish this blanket. Disable Grid Snap if needed.

    My opinion: Personally, the emphasis of the sliders with the drum is fantastic in general, I mean, it adjust to the gameplay and feels nice when you play it. Congrats



Considering the lowest difficult is a bit picky, you could make a Easy difficult. I understand it takes time but I understand the point of Mo.
That's all. If you have some question please make me know. Sometimes I don't explain well because of my english but it's part of learning.
Gl
posted

Cloudchaser wrote:

Hello guys! A mod from my really Casual Modding Queue. Modding 3 difficults since it was a condition from my rules :D

General
  1. All seems in order!



Kanan & Ice's Advanced
  1. When I testplayed this difficult, I did notice of a flow mistake here 00:10:868 (1,2) - I didn't like how it plays because I expected to go in the direction of the slider's tail. I understand that it's a Advanced but if you can fix it to make it more instuitive, I would do something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9817090 agreed ~
  2. 00:34:595 - There's a missing whistle in the head of the slider, since you did in 00:35:413 - I'd expect to hear a whistle for vocals there. oups
  3. 00:38:686 (3,4,1) - I don't like go "nazi" in this part of the beatmap but when people make polarized sliders like in this case, I would want to see two things, blankets or symmetry. You have everything to make a perfect circle with two sliders. See how it looks symmetrical and with (1) https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9817127 looks :ok_hand: now
  4. 00:59:413 (2,3) - This look pretty boring vs 01:10:868 (4,5) - I would like to see both like in (4,5) Very good! did ~
  5. 01:46:868 (2) - Stack this note with 01:46:050 (2) - . This point is really optional but I think it looks prettier when you play it. 01:45:777 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - is more like a spread thing since i do that in upper diffs too (and prolly taste too)
  6. 02:07:459 (2) - Hmmm, I don't know If this really intentional but I find it ugly tbh. I'd make something simplier like a https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9817205 (and it's the same idea!) :)i guess i mad eit better now
  7. 04:32:959 (1,2,3,4,5) - I don't think I have to tell you that you must remove this for overmapping, I guess. :idea:ok - why the fuck is that actually there -.-

    My opinion: Actually, this is my favorite difficult, it's picky but at the same time very instuitive. I didn't have much problems modding it.


Lore&Ice's Hard
  1. 00:35:413 (1,2,3) - The reason why I pointed this is because of the DS. It's nothing related to the rhythm, it's good. But my reason is that after (1)
    comes (2) with a distance of 1/2 notes and even more, it's hardly visible to the players. My suggestion is to adjust (2) and (3) with DS 1,4 (your default one)
    https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9817356 i think it is ok as it is now ^^
  2. 02:41:413 (4) - Minor stuff but this is off from my screen, if you can move it above a little bit did. So is this note 02:44:686 (4) - wait - is it :shock:
  3. 03:31:186 (3,4) - Minor stuff: Polish this blanket. Disable Grid Snap if needed. nazi :o

    My opinion: Personally, the emphasis of the sliders with the drum is fantastic in general, I mean, it adjust to the gameplay and feels nice when you play it. Congrats



Considering the lowest difficult is a bit picky, you could make a Easy difficult. I understand it takes time but I understand the point of Mo. i dont know if it would be fitting to the song tho - an additional easy would be like a diff consisting out of very easy to read slider art and wouldnt actually add something to the spread what the set need ~ mo's main concern is the lack of quality in the lower diffs what i try to make better ~ ^^
That's all. If you have some question please make me know. Sometimes I don't explain well because of my english but it's part of learning.
Gl
Thanks alot for the critzism and nice words ~ !
posted
The offnotes are at least in my screen that is really really huge xD

Adding an easy was my real opinion though with a Normal is ok as long as it plays as a normal
posted
top diff

00:33:360 (5,6) - These stand out kinda too much. It fits the pressure nicely but its like no need to space them out this much cuz theres nothing really on those ticks. I suggest something like:

(extra: 01:49:587 (2,3,1,2,3,4,1) - These spacings seem really volatile as in the song is pretty calm overall and you are replicating stuff equal in intensity as much more intense parts of the song.)
posted
Applied to both things maffe said
posted

Cloudchaser wrote:

Hello guys! A mod from my really Casual Modding Queue. Modding 3 difficults since it was a condition from my rules :D

General
  1. All seems in order!


Riko&Phyl's Normal
  1. 00:31:322 (2,3,4) - There's a inconsistency with the DS here. Gladly, you only have to adjust the note to the actual DS and done :)
  2. Since you're following vocals in the beginning 01:50:686 (1,2,3) -, consider changing this pattern of 1 slider and 1 circle 01:55:595 (3) -. How? adjust the length to 01:56:140 - and put a note in the next white tick 01:56:413 -. In my opinion, this would emphasize way much better the rhythm, incluiding the hitsounding. but the song gets really calm here and i want to indicate that with a lower rhythm density
  3. 02:00:231 - This part feels awkward when you play it because you expect clicking something, I've told you before that seems you're using sliders to follow vocals. So, how would be it much better? I have two ideas. First of all, 01:59:959 - you can make a 1/2 slider here, or just make a simple circle here 02:00:231 - (First option is much better anyway, consider using that one at least) :P .
  4. 02:46:322 (1,1,1,1) - I have consulted to some friends of mine about this point. We consider that this is very difficult considering that is the lower diff in the mapset. We agreed that adding sliderart would be much better (like in the Advanced), also it will be more instuitive to the newbie players. i really like the concept of the spinners and I rarely see opportunities to take advantage of that. in that case i think the spinners are long enough to score on and are a nice experience for new players (so they keep the map in mind and stuf flike that). whether a bn decides if its okay or not, i will change it then
  5. 03:25:595 (1) - This object is off from my screen, it's just a minor problem. Just move it above a little bit!
  6. So is this pattern too 03:26:140 (2,3,4) - both are offscreen in the editor but not when you play the map, even on 4:3 resolution
  7. 03:43:595 (3) - I don't like to be Nazi at this point because I understand that sliders are more like an art expression and stuff but, Can you make it symmetrical in this case? the proportion is inconsistent, and I'm sure it would look prettier. If you have problems fixing it, you can adjust it removing the grid snap (that's the secret of many slider art)

    My opinion: I am very conformable with the result of this Normal in general. I noticed only general aspect in terms of mapping, not a big deal but not something to ignore at all. Well, I have my doubts. I felt like this a bit picky for newbies, there's a lot of 1/2 considering it's the lower difficult. Nothing else to say, I really liked it. but i dont use any 1/2 rhythms ><. i agree sliderarts are kind of tricky for newbies at some point but a nice experience for them overall :3

-Mo- wrote:

Riko Phyl
- 01:59:959 (3) - Can't remember if this was like this last time, but I think 1/2 slider would work better here to fit the vocal notes. yes
- 02:26:686 (1,3) - This overlap may as well be avoided, kinda sticks out right now. stacked instead
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posted

Sakurauchi Riko wrote:

Cloudchaser wrote:

My opinion: I am very conformable with the result of this Normal in general. I noticed only general aspect in terms of mapping, not a big deal but not something to ignore at all. Well, I have my doubts. I felt like this a bit picky for newbies, there's a lot of 1/2 considering it's the lower difficult. Nothing else to say, I really liked it. but i dont use any 1/2 rhythms ><. i agree sliderarts are kind of tricky for newbies at some point but a nice experience for them overall :3[/list]
In general, this was a nice difficult. In terms of mapping, it's a bit picky because of the BPM but you got nice results. After all, my mod was more my point of view about the diff and not like "must change" stuff.
GL
posted
hi m4m

[Normal]
00:05:951 (3) - you could probably make this a reverse to try and match the vocals
00:41:405 (2,1,2) - i would move these more to the right because the movement is kind of awkward for a beginner (basically make it flow out of 1)
01:01:587 (1) - this is not fitting at all, especially for the kiai. rhythm here should be more dense. I would suggest a 2/1 reverse at the start and then a 1/1 slider on 01:01:587 (1) -
01:13:042 (3) - again, i would use a reverse here to match the vocals
02:32:132 (4) - would ctrl + j this, movement here isn't very nice for beginners due to the direction of this slider

i kinda wish the kiai's were a bit more dense, but i think you didn't do that for sr

[Advanced]
00:26:951 (3) - i'd place this a little lower so that the movement to 1 doesn't feel so awkward
01:01:587 (1) - making this slider 3/2 would match
01:06:905 (4,5) - lining these up would be much better, the slight right movement is a bit weird
01:49:860 (3) - really don't understand why you just put slider's over vocal syllables, just make it a reverse
01:52:314 (3) - i really don't understand what you are following here. seems like you are prioritizing making pretty sliders but i think the rhythm should be a 2/1 slider then a circle on 01:52:314 (3) -
02:16:860 (1) - i feel like this slider would be confusing for advanced players, I think you can simplify it because where it goes in and out of itself can be confusing
02:25:042 (4) - slider shape is kinda sharp movement unexpectedly, i would suggest making it smoother
03:45:223 (1) - sounds better if this was 3/2 too
03:57:769 (5) - ds error
03:58:860 (2) - oof you skipped the downbeat here, I would really suggest mapping it

[Hard]
ar 7.5 would be better imo
00:30:224 (5,6,1) - random emphasis in the calmer part doesn't really work and can really throw a player off, i would just stack these
00:43:587 (1,2,3,4) - backwards movement isn't very easy for a hard player and considering that you didn't do it before the same section before, I would try and do something easier :/
02:22:860 (3,4,5) - a bit too much movement here, i would make 3 flow directly into 4
03:41:951 (1,2) - these are not parallel

[Insane]
00:04:042 (5,6) - could be confused for 1/4, i would probably make these jumps. same applies in other places
00:26:405 (1,2) - again, can be confused for 1/4. I would suggest blanketing 2 on 1
03:40:811 (1,1,1,1) - i don't get why you decided to map the vocals here but not on any other parts before the chorus
03:48:905 (2,3) - the emphasis here is really unnecessary because there's nothing in the music that can support it, i would move it closer

this insane is executed very well. nice

[Top diff]
00:12:223 (5,6,1) - kind of backwards emphasis, 5-6 gets more distance than 6-1
00:40:723 (1,1) - this gap looks really difficult to hit, you can emphasize it, but I think it's too much as it is rn
01:14:405 (6,7,1) - this is absolutely brutal due to the linear nature of 7,1. it's fairly similar to the other emphasis in the chorus, I would try to nerf this because it's unnecessarily difficult
02:24:223 (5,6,7) - this arrangement of 3 that you've been doing is good, though this one doesn't really follow any logic and just looks messy considering your previous arrangements

that's all I really have to say. I would focus the most on the advanced.

good luck!
posted

osuskrub wrote:

hi m4m

[Advanced]
00:26:951 (3) - i'd place this a little lower so that the movement to 1 doesn't feel so awkward yea
01:01:587 (1) - making this slider 3/2 would match i change this but i dont know if i liked that better b4 or not
01:06:905 (4,5) - lining these up would be much better, the slight right movement is a bit weird yo sir
01:49:860 (3) - really don't understand why you just put slider's over vocal syllables, just make it a reverse imo slider would be just fine since the vocal on 01:50:132 - isnt soo strong compared to 01:47:405 (1,2) - putting a slider here is more fitting for than a reverse idk (subjetive i guess)
01:52:314 (3) - i really don't understand what you are following here. seems like you are prioritizing making pretty sliders but i think the rhythm should be a 2/1 slider then a circle on 01:52:314 (3) - i just wanna have a lower note density here since the part is very calming - mapping the vocals on 01:52:723 - would be too dense for this diff imo - since i made it consistently (01:55:587 (3) - ) i guess you can do this
02:16:860 (1) - i feel like this slider would be confusing for advanced players, I think you can simplify it because where it goes in and out of itself can be confusing i gathered feedback for this slider and most of them were like "its ok" - maybe i gather a bit more
02:25:042 (4) - slider shape is kinda sharp movement unexpectedly, i would suggest making it smoother yea i agree that it comes kinda out of nowhere - change it ~
03:45:223 (1) - sounds better if this was 3/2 too ill change this for now
03:57:769 (5) - ds error uhhm - oups
03:58:860 (2) - oof you skipped the downbeat here, I would really suggest mapping it k

[Hard]
ar 7.5 would be better imo oups - ar 8 is too hard yea, didnt even saw it
00:30:224 (5,6,1) - random emphasis in the calmer part doesn't really work and can really throw a player off, i would just stack these
00:43:587 (1,2,3,4) - backwards movement isn't very easy for a hard player and considering that you didn't do it before the same section before, I would try and do something easier :/ found a solution
02:22:860 (3,4,5) - a bit too much movement here, i would make 3 flow directly into 4 yea i like that idea
03:41:951 (1,2) - these are not parallel made them ^^

[Insane]
00:04:042 (5,6) - could be confused for 1/4, i would probably make these jumps. same applies in other places i like it very much like this since then the downbeat gets emphazised alot (and since that it is consistent it shouldnt be too bad ^^
00:26:405 (1,2) - again, can be confused for 1/4. I would suggest blanketing 2 on 1 oups - for some reasong i thought this was 1/4

this insane is executed very well. nice thanks ^^

[Top diff]
00:12:223 (5,6,1) - kind of backwards emphasis, 5-6 gets more distance than 6-1 i lowered it a bit but since 00:12:360 (6,1) - has a flow break, (1) has automaticly a higher emphasis ^^
00:40:723 (1,1) - this gap looks really difficult to hit, you can emphasize it, but I think it's too much as it is rn ohh i might disagree there - first even thought this was too little emphasis (imo its fine like this)
01:14:405 (6,7,1) - this is absolutely brutal due to the linear nature of 7,1. it's fairly similar to the other emphasis in the chorus, I would try to nerf this because it's unnecessarily difficult since the difficulty was mostly in the angle i reduced it so it easier to hit ~
02:24:223 (5,6,7) - this arrangement of 3 that you've been doing is good, though this one doesn't really follow any logic and just looks messy considering your previous arrangements yea i got tired of it too :D (changed 02:22:587 (5,6,7) - to something nice/more fitting too ^^)

that's all I really have to say. I would focus the most on the advanced.

good luck!
Thanks alot man :)
posted
I think this map is very good :)

normal
  1. 01:25:587 - The sound here is so big that I feel a sense of incongruity at the end of the slider
    01:24:769 (2) - Wrap this back 01:25:587 - It might be good to put a circle here
  2. 03:20:678 (3) - This slider looks bad
    It is not a feeling that represents a song so it might be a little simpler to make it
  3. 04:26:951 (4) - I think I can put a 1/1 slider here
    Since it becomes the last of the song, I think that it feels good to fill up the rhythm of the object a little


advanced
  1. 00:12:496 (4) - Why is not this a 1/1 rhythm?
    I think that it is possible to make a return at 1/1
  2. 00:28:860 (5) - This may need to be raised a bit more
    Image
  3. 00:40:314 (1) - 00:43:587 (1,2) - Why is the rhythm different?
  4. 01:06:496 (3,4) - Why will not you pick up the sound with a 1/1 rhythm?
    02:28:313 (3,4,5) - I think it would be better to unify by either
  5. 01:19:587 (6) - Why are you using the 2/1 slider?
    This should be the same rhythm here 01:18:769 (3, 4, 5) 02:40:587 (2,3) - 04:02:405 (3,4,5,6,7) - Just like here
  6. 03:52:587 (2,3,4) - 01:08:132 (1) - I think that it is easy to unify with the same rhythm as the last kiai because I think the first kiai slider is easy to advanced
  7. 04:17:951 (4) - Add NC?


There are already so many excellent modders, so it was not much to mod
Good luck! :)
posted

Yasaija 714 wrote:

I think this map is very good :)


advanced
  1. 00:12:496 (4) - Why is not this a 1/1 rhythm? i wanted to explain it - then i noticed i cant so i'll just might change that :D
    I think that it is possible to make a return at 1/1
  2. 00:28:860 (5) - This may need to be raised a bit more oups - defenetly changed
    Image
  3. 00:40:314 (1) - 00:43:587 (1,2) - Why is the rhythm different?
  4. 01:06:496 (3,4) - Why will not you pick up the sound with a 1/1 rhythm? this was a thing i left on hold since many requested to change this - i guess it is time now :3
    02:28:313 (3,4,5) - I think it would be better to unify by either only the second kiai i concentrate more on vocals than on rythm since the vocals are much stronger - thats why i mapped it differently
  5. 01:19:587 (6) - Why are you using the 2/1 slider? i have no clue xD
    This should be the same rhythm here 01:18:769 (3, 4, 5) 02:40:587 (2,3) - 04:02:405 (3,4,5,6,7) - Just like here in the 2nd kiai i changed the rythm a bit but ill let the reverses since i wanna let the density in the kiai down in coparison with the other 2 ( i explained above)
  6. 03:52:587 (2,3,4) - 01:08:132 (1) - I think that it is easy to unify with the same rhythm as the last kiai because I think the first kiai slider is easy to advanced
  7. 04:17:951 (4) - Add NC? changed the NC pattern overall in this section~


There are already so many excellent modders, so it was not much to mod
Good luck! :)
Thank you very much :)
posted
m4m

[General]
  1. I don't understand why colorhax in diffs are different :v


[Normal]
  1. Why 00:46:587 (4) is mapped but 00:43:314 - isn't?
  2. 01:20:951 - the vocal should be mapped like 01:07:860 (4) and 01:17:678 (4) - etc
  3. 01:23:678 - I would prefer something clickable to provide a better transition
  4. 01:29:405 - ^, doesnt sound good to place sliderend on a downbeat
  5. 00:14:132 (5) - should add nc as well if 01:31:042 (1) - is added
  6. 02:06:769 - Same as 00:46:587 (4)
  7. 02:42:769 - Same as 01:20:951
  8. 04:04:587 - ^


[Advanced]
  1. 00:40:314 - Missing finish
  2. 00:41:951 - i would prefer making this downbeat clickable, you can switch 00:41:405 (3,1) - in timeline
  3. 00:44:678 (3,1) - ^ and so on
  4. well rhythm in kiai seems inconsistent for me since sometimes you are mapping the drums 00:59:951 (3,4) but switching follow the vocal 01:01:587 (1,2) (In my opinion vocal shouldn't be skipped even if you are trying to follow drums on the kiai section (i.e. vocal like 01:00:496, 01:07:042 needs to be clickable))
  5. 02:07:042 (1,2,3,4) - why rhythm choice suddenly change lol
  6. 02:16:860 (1) - you may want to shorten the overlap between those red anchors, to improve the readability for lower diffs
  7. why the whole section 02:59:405 isn't mapped in advance but normal does? this isn't really make sense for me
  8. 03:37:042 - at least start the spinner at 03:37:110 and add reverse on 03:36:769 (2) if you want to follow the vocal..


[Hard]
  1. 00:14:132 to 00:40:314 - Seriously i think 1.0x is too fast and not suitable at all for this section
  2. 00:37:042 (1,2,3,4) - prevent such overlaps in lower diffs
  3. 01:53:746 - I think there is no sound in blue ticks?


[Insane]
  1. 02:04:178 (1,2,1) - imo the emphasis is too much for 1/4 rhythm lol
  2. 03:48:905 (2,3) - 03:50:541 (2,3) - doesn't such large distance imo


[Final Judgment]
  1. 01:08:951 (4) -03:56:678 (1) - can curve more to improve the shape
  2. 01:09:769 (1) - same
  3. 02:07:860 (1,2) - don't think the red anchor is needed lol

sorry im not experienced in timing so i can't confirm if it is accurate enough :(
stuff mentioned in bold are highly suggested to fix, good luck!
posted
うみねこのく頃に :o

General:

00:57:172 - 210 BPM like before your final Kiai? Suits the vocals better here. Also I believe these (210 bpm) should both be in 4/4 though it's not really long enough to matter.

Because of the lack of a storyboard or video. Perhaps turn letterboxing on. All of the breaks are long, so it's a good visual cue to when it's about to resume.

Speaking of a lack of storyboard, consider adding one so we know who mapped which parts. Or at least add something in your description telling us this.

All of your diffs have a useless timing point at the start in one way or the other. For example in Normal, both of these can be deleted.


Sound could be balanced a little better at the spinners around 00:56:678 - in most of your difficulties. Some I would even use 5% (with a soft sampleset) because fade out. If you can, go through them all quickly and check them. The thump sound is a bit loud for the majority of your spinner ends.

Also again with the spinners. The very end 04:32:678 - should use the soft default instead of custom1. The thump noise is too loud here for a fade out spinner

Technically, your first Kiai should end at 01:24:496 - to match the others. If not, the last kiai should be extended to 04:21:223 - to capture the extra bits like the first one does.

Since it seems like you use combo color hax stuff. I've noticed there are a lot of inconsistencies in some places. EX. Your Normal uses different colors for the first kiai, advanced uses the wrong blue at the end, and so on. A little more consistency would be cool, but it isn't a major issue. Maybe apply this at the end of this mod if you remember.

Preview point would probably be better at the start of your first kiai so players don't have to listen to the same 1min loop over and over. There is very little difference between these two spots anyways.


[Normal]
  1. 00:37:860 (2,3) - and 00:50:951 (2,3) - Minor DS error here if you care. I thought you were doing this on purpose, but the other half of these are still 1.1.
  2. 00:52:860 (5) - & 02:16:314 (5) - Since you've been following the vocals mostly here, how about deleting this slider and adding a circle at 00:53:132 - ?
  3. 01:14:678 (1,2) - The music is stronger at 01:15:496 - Maybe map that instead?
  4. 02:28:314 (3) - x183 y287 if you care about making the slider end perfect.
  5. 02:46:314 (1,1,1) - Like your advanced, You should convert these spinners into some nice sliders. First off, 4 spinners in a row like that can be tiring to new players, plus the amount of time between each spinner start is 1/4 which doesn't allow for any rest. If you don't want to do the sliders, then give the spinners at least 1/2 a note break between end and startup here.
  6. 03:59:951 (3) - Overall your map structure has been very beautiful.. but then this happens and it sticks out like a sore thumb since it just feels so lazy with nothing backing it. tbh, anything else would work.
  7. 04:16:314 (3) - Same this as above. This isn't as bad, but it could look nicer. How about a wave or something? These long sliders should have more depth to them than just a simple curve!
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  8. Like I mentioned before, beautiful structure accompanied by some nice slider designs. It's honestly nice to see a map in this day and age who has unique sliders rather than just straights and curves.
  9. 00:40:314 (1) - These sliders represent the intensity to a T.


[Advanced]
  1. 00:40:314 (1) - 00:43:587 (1) - Since you're already introducing 1/2 gaps in this difficulty, you should consider using a bit more in other places. An example here is to extend these by 1/2 so it fully captures the vocals. This will also help make the gap between N/A/H a little smoother. Currently N-A---H ish in terms of density.
  2. 00:53:405 (1) - The symmetry here is off by quite a bit. You can drag it to the center to make the symmetry easier (Red node at x256). Move it back afterwards.
  3. 01:52:314 (3) - & 01:55:587 (3) - Would probably suit this difficulty more if you reduced the slider by 1/1 and added a circle at 01:56:405 - Plus it captures the vocals nicely.
  4. 02:49:587 (1) - First off, Consider removing the first red node so it's a bit smoother. Secondly. Change the CS to around 5.7 and place a circle in the middle of the loop at the top. You should be able to easily adjust your nodes to make a more precise circle here. (Your old CS is 3.5 if you forget. Don't forget to change it back!)
  5. 03:12:496 - This is an extremely long break (24 seconds!) Consider starting back up here instead like Hard does.
  6. 04:22:041 (2) - Control+H Control+> and maybe move it up a little bit to x184 y108. It gets the tail away from the previous circle.
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  7. Lots of unique sliders is a + in my book. Keeps the map fresh throughout the whole 4 mins.
  8. 02:16:860 (1) - This one is nice.


[Hard]
- All your notes from around 03:43:588 (1) - to 04:02:406 (1) - are unsnapped by 1ms.
- 00:01:451 (2) - to 00:12:496 (1) - All of this inherited timing is off.
- It's a bit strange when only the hard uses 3/4 sliders for the kiai sections. anyways, for these 3/4 sliders, consider lowering the volume on the ends quite a bit.
- Pretty much all of your NCs are inconsistent in this diff. There are times when you NC every measure, every 2 measures.. heck, every 4 measures lol. I Recommend going through this (maybe after the mods so the timestamps and such are correct)
- The middle and ending of each Kiai has an extremely long series of 1/2 gaps. I would recommend adding a few 1/1 gaps here and there to break up the strain here. This will also help balance the N/A/H gaps I was mentioning in advanced.
  1. 00:35:405 (1) - I'm not really a fan of all this overlap from the slider here. It just makes it feel more jumbled up than anything. I would personally send the tail off to the left instead. The other option is to Control+H 00:36:223 (2,3,4,1) - (and whatever after needs to be adjusted)
  2. 00:44:951 (1) - Avoid being linear and do like do did at 00:41:678 (1,2) - where (1) was its own thing and the next notes were beside it, not in the path. This helps with the sudden momentum change.
  3. 00:45:769 (1) - If this was consistent with the previous pattern. This should be attached to the previous combo. The strong jump sound is at 00:46:042 (1) -
  4. 00:57:155 (1) - If you did the timing mentioned above. Use 2 1/1 sliders here like before the last Kiai?
  5. 01:52:042 (3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - Maybe nerf this some? It's actually more dense than the Insane.
  6. 02:05:132 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - and 02:08:405 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - I'm a little sad you didn't map this like the part before the first Kiai.
  7. 02:14:132 (2) - and 02:16:314 (2) - There really isn't any background sound supporting these
  8. 02:19:587 (3) - Try x104 y132 to make the distances between 02:19:042 (2,3,1) - a little more even and they notes will flow into each other a little nicer here.
  9. 02:20:132 (1,2,3,4) - This first half of the kiai feels a bit unpolished. More rushed than anything. 02:25:041 (1,2) - These overlaps, 02:26:678 (1,2) - (2) should be rotated more and moved upwards so they flow together a bit nicer instead of the Jagged sharp turn once hit. Just all these little things add up. A little bit of TLC would do this nicely.
  10. 03:12:496 (1) - to 03:25:587 (1) - Maybe lighten this up on Hard? Right now Hard has the most density compared to Insane and Judgement. 03:17:269 (3) - Could be deleted, and a lot of the 1/2 sliders would be just fine as a single circle.
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  11. 02:49:587 (1) - this slider <3
  12. 00:37:042 (1,2,3,4) - While I don't believe covering the heads in Hard is something you should be doing, I do actually like the design here for this.


[Insane]
  1. 00:57:223 - with the new timing, consider mapping this like you did with the last kiai.
  2. 01:04:314 (2,3) - and 01:17:405 (2,3) - This part shouldn't need this much emphasis. While there are slightly stronger instruments here, it gets drowned out with the lack of vocals, making it feel more relaxed imo. I would probably use at most 2.5 here instead of 3+ Also you probably want the strongest jump leading in to the upcoming (1)
  3. 01:18:769 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Not only is this a huge jump from (3,1) but the patterns are slightly different here (Second one has jumps to each note, while the first one doesn't). not sure if you did this on purpose, but the second pattern is probably what you want the first pattern to be. Also you should probably move them a little more closer to each other.
  4. 02:04:178 (1,2) - A little overkill here imo for 3/4 sliders. If you want to emphasize with the jumps, then maybe nerf the 3/4 some, or vice versa. Having both really spikes up the difficulty on this part.
  5. 03:50:541 (2,3) - Jump is a bit much here. You want to focus to be on the upcoming 03:50:678 (3,1,2,3) - pattern, so some buildup into it would be better. Try moving 03:50:541 (2) - to 03:49:041 (3) - 's head or something a little closer. I guess this also applies to 03:48:905 (2) -
  6. 04:05:405 (3) - This slider here is pretty awkwardly placed for me. One thing you can do to alleviate this is by stacking the (2) under the (1)'s tail like 04:04:041 (1,2) - does so it gives more freedom to the (3) rather then being placed where it is. Try moving the (3) upwards so it somewhat mirrors 04:04:041 (1,2,3) - in idea.
  7. 04:07:314 (1,2,3) - The emphasis here is a lot different from the other two kiai which go somewhat relaxing.
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  8. 00:01:860 (3,4,5) - I like the use of all of these throughout the diff.
  9. 04:08:132 (1) - This whole ending section. Has good emphasis, and stays true to the song.
  10. Slider shapes have that good balance of somewhat random, but fitting. My favorite being the simple 01:08:132 (1) -



[Final Judgment]
- Middle kiai at 02:20:132 - is missing on this diff. I would understand if it was a GDer who decided this, but it's your map. Kiai should be somewhat similar in all of your own diffs, and this being the only one doesn't really make sense. I highly recommend you add it here.
  1. 00:31:314 (1,2,3) - I like this, but it does feel a bit clustered. Try giving this a bit more room so it's more like 2/3 of the tail covered instead of over 3/4.
  2. 01:05:405 (3,4,5,6) - These feel somewhat randomly placed. A little more consistency in the shape or placement would work nicely here. If you aren't concerned about the shapes, then move the (6) to x286 y355 for DS, and the closest it can be to a proper curve.
  3. 01:24:223 (1,2,1) - Should probably be emphasised more on the (2,1) or about even imo. The strongest hit is 01:24:495 (1) -
  4. 01:45:223 (2) - To follow your emphasis on the downbeats and Time-distance preference here. The (2) should be quite a bit closer to the (1). Having the previous (4) closer to the (1) than then (2) goes against this.
  5. 02:01:042 (2,4) - With the strong vocals, it would probably suit this pattern if (2,4) were a little further from the 02:00:496 (1,3) -
  6. 03:12:496 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - I would even the distances on these out a little more. The sounds are essentially the same here. It would fit with the other upcoming patterns.
  7. 04:01:041 (5) - Make symmetry with the previous sliders here? This will also flow much better as well.

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  8. 00:39:496 (2,1,1) - Very nice design on these, and the blanket is well done.
  9. 02:38:132 (1,3) - I love this one.
  10. 03:12:496 (1) - This whole section is really nice as well. Great job here.


Well. All I can say is sorry this took so long. Work and Sickness killed me for a few days and I think I may have taken a bit too much time on this. Regardless of the block of text, I really like this set. It can use a little bit more work to perfect it, but I'd really like to see this pushed forward someday. Keep up the good work :)
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