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SkyTearZ
alright, so my mouse isn't anything special like a steel series or razer or anything like that.

i am rather bad at this or at least i am in my opinion, i can do 1-2 stars and ive came close to a few 3 stars for at least a D or C performance...

Now, my friend got me into this awhile ago, i think i played for an hour and then didnt touch osu for about 2 years, ive been back for probably a week now.

Perfected one song got S/A ranks on a couple others, and have gotten as high as a B with hardrock and nightcore on, i actually find some songs to be easier with nightcore on, is this normal?

i also play with max sensitivity and my monitor os 1440 x 900 so essentially 900P

any tips or map suggestions would be greatly appreciated :)
Sandy Hoey
Play more is really the best answer. Only one hour isn't going to get you anywhere, obviously. Also, max sensitivity is probably going to hold you back. Try to go as low as you can while still feeling comfortable. When the songs get faster you are going to start overshooting a lot with max sensitivity
Topic Starter
SkyTearZ
alright, ill lower the sensitivity a bit and see if that helps any, overall i have 12 hours of play, which i know isn't much lol


Edit: lowered my sensitivity to about a 3.04 i missed 2 beats entirely with HR, NC on but overall i got a higher accuracy rate than with max sensitivity.

thank you :)
ManuelOsuPlayer

SkyTearZ wrote:

alright, so my mouse isn't anything special like a steel series or razer or anything like that.

i am rather bad at this or at least i am in my opinion, i can do 1-2 stars and ive came close to a few 3 stars for at least a D or C performance...

Now, my friend got me into this awhile ago, i think i played for an hour and then didnt touch osu for about 2 years, ive been back for probably a week now.

Perfected one song got S/A ranks on a couple others, and have gotten as high as a B with hardrock and nightcore on, i actually find some songs to be easier with nightcore on, is this normal?

i also play with max sensitivity and my monitor os 1440 x 900 so essentially 900P

any tips or map suggestions would be greatly appreciated :)
Usually when you're new it's normal to play with high sensitivity but you should let osu sensitivity to 1 and move instead windows sensitivity. Or If your mouse let you just up the dpi to the max and let osu and windows sensitivity to 1. (Windows sentivity 6/11) Disable precision where you change mouse sensitivity.
You can search how to set up the mouse well. Anyways you will improve, dosn't matter much your config right now. Play a lot 1* songs and some 2* to get used to aim well using the mouse and have fun^^
Sandy Hoey

ManuelOsuPlayer wrote:

Usually when you're new it's normal to play with high sensitivity but you should let osu sensitivity to 0 and move instead windows sensitivity. Or If your mouse let you just up the dpi to the max and let osu and windows sensitivitys to 0. (Windows sentivity 6/11) Disable precision where you change mouse sensitivity.
You can search how to set up the mouse well. Anyways you will improve, dosn't matter much your config right now. Play a lot 1* songs and some 2* to get used to aim well using the mouse and have fun^^
Quick fix, standard sensitivity in osu! is 1
ManuelOsuPlayer

Sandy Hoey wrote:

Quick fix, standard sensitivity in osu! is 1

Yes thank's. Edited.
pandaBee
Buy a tablet

Luqanted
get a tablet [2]
Endie-
You don't need a tablet to get "good" (good is a very subjective term). Mouse is a great place to start.
Play anything and everything, and download a lot of different maps with different music. That way you get a feel for what kind of maps you like and what playstyle you enjoy playing.
You can find mappacks here.
Getting good at this game takes time, effort and determination. Never give up!
N0thingSpecial
At this point we can't really give you specifics, at this point experiment with lower your sensitivity/DPI and try to find a grip that's comfortable to you
Kyrari
To quote Doomsday:

Q. Do you have any tips to improve?
A. I have no special tip or trick, really. Just keep playing, and challenge yourself. Play stuff you can actually make sense of, but still challenges you, and you're on the right track. Also, if you play using a mouse, turn mouse acceleration OFF (on a Windows OS, disable "Enhance Pointer Precision" in mouse settings)
Nattsun

Endie- wrote:

You don't need a tablet to get "good" (good is a very subjective term). Mouse is a great place to start.
Play anything and everything, and download a lot of different maps with different music. That way you get a feel for what kind of maps you like and what playstyle you enjoy playing.
You can find mappacks here.
Getting good at this game takes time, effort and determination. Never give up!
The former #1 player said himself, mouse is worse than tablet. Locket area+no mouse drift is an advantage.

OT: As people pointed out already lower your dpi and you should probably use your arm to move the mouse, not only your wrist. You can still lower your dpi later when you are better. When I bought a new mouse it didn't even take me 30 minutes to get used to a new dpi (lowered from 1.2k to 1k). There is no magic behind this, you will adapt fast and it doesn't take weeks as people claim sometimes.

By the way, you shouldn't care too much about becoming the best or anything, play the way you enjoy it most and have fun. Tablet or mouse doesn't really matter, it's not like you will become the next Cookiezi anyway.
KupcaH

Cirno9 wrote:

Endie- wrote:

You don't need a tablet to get "good" (good is a very subjective term). Mouse is a great place to start.
The former #1 player said himself, mouse is worse than tablet. Locket area+no mouse drift is an advantage.
Did he say that mouse is better than tablet? He said "You don't need a tablet to get "good"" what is truth. Why are you even quoting him? :thinking:
Deusieus
just play more and become angelsim
Topic Starter
SkyTearZ
wow, lot more replies than i thought i would get, thanks for the setting suggestions and the link for some packs, ive set my sensitivity to 1x and disabled pointer precision, i looked at my mouse a bit more closely for DPI and noticed a small blue button behind the mouse wheel labeled DPI and 4 settings 800 1200 1600 and 2000 ill be messing with this a bit to see which one feels better.

anyways thank you all again, and i swear i did not mean to cause a mouse/tablet arguement so im sorry :|
I Give Up
Congrats on choosing to be a mouse player, the godly way to play osu.

Here's what you gotta do, identify the brand of your mouse and find out what sensor it has. Make sure to only select native dpi step(s). If you want a sensitivity that is not within native dpi specifications, then only change the windows sensitivity and/or in-game sensitivity*

In your windows mouse settings ensure that "enhanced pointer precision" is turned off.

Disable any of the windows aero crap that hinders input latency, or you can simply enable raw input and play fullscreen or letterboxed if you want to keep fancy windows theme.

*Raw input will bypass any OS/driver mouse settings.

Good luck.
Topic Starter
SkyTearZ

I Give Up wrote:

Congrats on choosing to be a mouse player, the godly way to play osu.

Here's what you gotta do, identify the brand of your mouse and find out what sensor it has. Make sure to only select native dpi step(s). If you want a sensitivity that is not within native dpi specifications, then only change the windows sensitivity and/or in-game sensitivity*

In your windows mouse settings ensure that "enhanced pointer precision" is turned off.

Disable any of the windows aero crap that hinders input latency, or you can simply enable raw input and play fullscreen or letterboxed if you want to keep fancy windows theme.

*Raw input will bypass any OS/driver mouse settings.

Good luck.

no one else mentioned aero messed with input, ill have to watch it a bit more closely, thank you :)
Blitzfrog
I'm just gonna say, changing your sensitivity everyday may help. But only change by a small amount of DPI. Enough to notice the change.

I've tried it myself, it works. Although for many people they will feel like it doesn't, but the result usually says otherwise

I wrote a thread about this somewhere. Dunno where it is
N0thingSpecial

Blitzfrog wrote:

I'm just gonna say, changing your sensitivity everyday may help. But only change by a small amount of DPI. Enough to notice the change.

I've tried it myself, it works. Although for many people they will feel like it doesn't, but the result usually says otherwise

I wrote a thread about this somewhere. Dunno where it is
Convincing results for being the same rank for the past 3 months

I still think you've made a rather wrong interpretation on doing a routine differently each time enhance your performance, like rather than changing dpi just change the content you play
Topic Starter
SkyTearZ

N0thingSpecial wrote:

Blitzfrog wrote:

I'm just gonna say, changing your sensitivity everyday may help. But only change by a small amount of DPI. Enough to notice the change.

I've tried it myself, it works. Although for many people they will feel like it doesn't, but the result usually says otherwise

I wrote a thread about this somewhere. Dunno where it is
Convincing results for being the same rank for the past 3 months

I still think you've made a rather wrong interpretation on doing a routine differently each time enhance your performance, like rather than changing dpi just change the content you play

yea i downloaded another beat map pack yesterday got an A/S on some on first try others took a little longer but not much, thanks to the setting suggestions my hands not cramping up as much and the games more fun than it was previously.

I dont know how to thank you guys more than just saying thanks and to let you know it helped a lot, i plan on downloading another pack today or tomorrow to add more variety, but before i do that i want to play more of the ones i havent touched yet, i have over 100 songs and ive probably only played half of them at most :)

the current settings i find to be most comfortable is 1x sensitivity and 1200 DPI
Blitzfrog

N0thingSpecial wrote:

Blitzfrog wrote:

I'm just gonna say, changing your sensitivity everyday may help. But only change by a small amount of DPI. Enough to notice the change.

I've tried it myself, it works. Although for many people they will feel like it doesn't, but the result usually says otherwise

I wrote a thread about this somewhere. Dunno where it is
Convincing results for being the same rank for the past 3 months

I still think you've made a rather wrong interpretation on doing a routine differently each time enhance your performance, like rather than changing dpi just change the content you play


Hmmmm another person who judges by rank huh

It's ok, you've got all rights for that ;)))))
Topic Starter
SkyTearZ
critique maybe? sorry its a replay, i was not able to do this song a couple days ago but after changing settings and working my way up different AR difficultys ranging from 1-6 on 1 star maps since someone suggested i do a lot of them, heres some progress


sorry its not perfect combo, i suck :D






Nattsun
You should try using mouse+keyboard. It might not feel comfortable at first, but it is the most "efficient" way to play in my opinion. Playing mouse only requires more dedication to "git guud", it's up to you though.

Also, instead of retrying the map you just linked you can play other maps and when you feel like you improved you can go back to the map and improve your score. You will see your improvement even if you don't get any pp.

Just a few random tips:

-try to aim for at least 97% accuracy. If you improved go back to the map and aim for 99%, it's better if you can naturally get 99% accuracy, but from what I see not everyone is capable of doing that

-get more maps. More maps=more different mapping styles, if you can play a huge variety of mapping styles you will be better than other people around your rank

-have fun and don't chase for pp, let the pp come to you

-a clean skin without combo bursts may help. Background dim set to 100 helped me a lot and if the interface (that thing that shows your score, combo and accuracy) bothers you, you can disable it with shift+tab.


PS: I didn't spend lots of time in the 1-3* range, you should just learn the fundamentals like doubles/triples and accuracy and then you shouldn't struggle too much and can move on to higher difficulties.
ManuelOsuPlayer

SkyTearZ wrote:

critique maybe? sorry its a replay, i was not able to do this song a couple days ago but after changing settings and working my way up different AR difficultys ranging from 1-6 on 1 star maps since someone suggested i do a lot of them, heres some progress


sorry its not perfect combo, i suck :D






You can order your map list by difficult and play 1* 1.01* 1.02*... Focusing on aim the best you can. This will give you good habits to play harder maps easily than should be because aim muscle memory. For sure have fun with it. ^^
1200 it's pretty good. Once you get used to it try to down it to 800 dpi.
Topic Starter
SkyTearZ
You should try using mouse+keyboard. It might not feel comfortable at first, but it is the most "efficient" way to play in my opinion. Playing mouse only requires more dedication to "git guud", it's up to you though.

mouse and keyboard? care to elaborate?

Also, instead of retrying the map you just linked you can play other maps and when you feel like you improved you can go back to the map and improve your score. You will see your improvement even if you don't get any pp.

I dont usually spam re-try a map, infact i usually try for 90% accuracy or higher even if its my first time, if i dont get it i simply move on to a new map, if i fail a map entirely ill start back over going down the list

Just a few random tips:

-try to aim for at least 97% accuracy. If you improved go back to the map and aim for 99%, it's better if you can naturally get 99% accuracy, but from what I see not everyone is capable of doing that

i usually aim for at least 90% usually ill get around 80-95% and very rarely ill get 100%, however i find some songs to be so slow i cant even play them

-get more maps. More maps=more different mapping styles, if you can play a huge variety of mapping styles you will be better than other people around your rank

i have a couple map packs and hundreds of songs, to play each on atleast once will probably take another 20hours just from their length,
assuming i dont mess up massively


-have fun and don't chase for pp, let the pp come to you

its what i have been doing, i dont really care about ranking, i just need to get better than someone i know who uses a tablet >.>

-a clean skin without combo bursts may help. Background dim set to 100 helped me a lot and if the interface (that thing that shows your score, combo and accuracy) bothers you, you can disable it with shift+tab.

this would of been nice to know before, however ive learned to tune it out, i see circles i click untill they stop appearing, essentially tunnel vision


PS: I didn't spend lots of time in the 1-3* range, you should just learn the fundamentals like doubles/triples and accuracy and then you shouldn't struggle too much and can move on to higher difficulties.

yea, when i first started i was aiming for combos and wondering why my score was still low, didn't take me long to realize only accuracy matters, however as i get better im noticing im doing 300-500 combos without even trying
Nattsun
mouse and keyboard? care to elaborate?

Clicking and moving the mouse around will harm your aim. Streaming is also insanely tough with mouse, not saying that you can't stream with a mouse, but it takes way more dedication than streaming with keyboard. (Streaming=multiple 1/4 notes in a row that require fast tapping, can't be singletapped by your average joe)

I dont usually spam re-try a map, infact i usually try for 90% accuracy or higher even if its my first time, if i dont get it i simply move on to a new map, if i fail a map entirely ill start back over going down the list

i usually aim for at least 90% usually ill get around 80-95% and very rarely ill get 100%, however i find some songs to be so slow i cant even play them

That's a good start, accuracy is really important in a rhythm game, that's why you should set your standards higher, at least 95%. Also, higher accuracy=more pp, if you care about rankings. There is nothing such "too slow" in a rhythm game, most 1-3* maps are undermapped so you shouldn't worry yet, but later on it becomes a thing and you shouldn't skip "slow" maps. Slow maps require finger control, which is a really important skill, don't underestimate the power of good finger control!

i have a couple map packs and hundreds of songs, to play each on atleast once will probably take another 20hours just from their length,
assuming i dont mess up massively


That's a good start. You can always download the "farmmap of the day" to warm up on it and keep up to date with the mapping meta. You should get more maps when you improve, you will often stumble upon some really unknown maps that are insanely fun, but aren't recognized by the community due to whatever reason.

its what i have been doing, i dont really care about ranking, i just need to get better than someone i know who uses a tablet >.>

I do the same to be honest, my "motivation" is a 4 digit who helped me to improve and I'm surprised how good I got in such a good time. It sounds conceited if I say this, but I am still underranked even though I farmed a ton a few weeks ago.

this would of been nice to know before, however ive learned to tune it out, i see circles i click untill they stop appearing, essentially tunnel vision

You can disable it in your options and if you want your really own skin you can go to https://osuskinner.com/ and create your own. I can share mine if you want, it's kind of "special", though. Most of my friends loved it.

yea, when i first started i was aiming for combos and wondering why my score was still low, didn't take me long to realize only accuracy matters, however as i get better im noticing im doing 300-500 combos without even trying[/quote]

You should always aim for high accuracy FCs. A 300 combo means nothing if the map has 2000 notes. Accuracy comes first, though! This is a rhythm game after all.
Sguzaki

Luqanted wrote:

get a tablet [2]

Have money
plant06
i just got my first ss rank in legend of genisis after reducing mouse sensitivity
Ymir
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Mother Nature

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