scar1410 wrote:

I know it's not the thread for this, and i'm sorry but

http://osu.ppy.sh/?p=profile&u=302656
http://osu.ppy.sh/?p=profile&u=303168

Multi accounts spotted ~

And used both accounts to give star to the same map LOL

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=33067&p=477670#p477670

Guys this is not the thread to argue suspicions or to spot multi accounts.

scar1410 wrote:

I know it's not the thread for this, and i'm sorry but

http://osu.ppy.sh/?p=profile&u=302656
http://osu.ppy.sh/?p=profile&u=303168

Multi accounts spotted ~

If you find a multi by non-score-related means please PM a bat instead.

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/33942 [Normal]

#2-#4

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=15228&m=2

CTB #1 is little strange

[KOR]RIKA wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=15228&m=2

CTB #1 is little strange

Very old score from the previous score algorithm, now deleted.

Glasslake wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/33942 [Normal]

#2-#4

Banned:
morimorigenki(multi) : SILVIA S15, morimorigennki, morimori100pa-, morimorimori

Found an hacker (or some glitch?)
On taiko scores... Easy mode of Access - Doubt & Trust
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=14584&m=1
Look at the taiko easy mode, 124 combo the first, but the second have 69 with no misses...
Also see this:

^0 Misses

gabrielwoj wrote:

Found an hacker (or some glitch?)
On taiko scores... Easy mode of Access - Doubt & Trust
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=14584&m=1
Look at the taiko easy mode, 124 combo the first, but the second have 69 with no misses...
Also see this:

^0 Misses

I think you're looking at the wrong hacker there...

If anything the number 1 spot is fishy, 124 hits, zero mods? O.o wat

Edit - Also 2 and 3 are the same people. Derp.

Zettaslow wrote:

gabrielwoj wrote:

Found an hacker (or some glitch?)
On taiko scores... Easy mode of Access - Doubt & Trust
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=14584&m=1
Look at the taiko easy mode, 124 combo the first, but the second have 69 with no misses...
Also see this:

^0 Misses

I think you're looking at the wrong hacker there...

If anything the number 1 spot is fishy, 124 hits, zero mods? O.o wat

Edit - Also 2 and 3 are the same people. Derp.

But weird, I saw the replay and he got 69, and them on the list he got 124... O_o
Also for the 2nd and 3rd, is ALMOST same name...
2nd: Rickisb
3rd: rickisbb
^other account?

[KOR]RIKA wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=15228&m=2

CTB #1 is little strange

haha

LirsRosso wrote:

[KOR]RIKA wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=15228&m=2

CTB #1 is little strange

haha

now delected, not L-lawliet

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=34211&m=2
#1 21,660,934 99.72% pieguy1372 898 892 / 6 / 162 58 3 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/39825
#1 27,140,641 100.00% pieguy1372 974 969 / 5 / 76 57 0 0 Hidden,Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1147
#1 44,894,923 99.86% pieguy1372 1286 1212 / 74 / 191 101 2 0 Hidden,Flashlight

can video?
i dont think its possible

i think its impossible 2，i need live video

I think its Possible

see mikhe he had FC it with hidden,doubletime .

Keksi wrote:

I think its Possible

see mikhe he had FC it with hidden,doubletime .

dont talk about mikhe,i just doubt pieguy1372
dt+hid≠hid+fl
hid+fl cant see anything
and you can try it :3

LirsRosso wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=34211&m=2
#1 21,660,934 99.72% pieguy1372 898 892 / 6 / 162 58 3 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/39825
#1 27,140,641 100.00% pieguy1372 974 969 / 5 / 76 57 0 0 Hidden,Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1147
#1 44,894,923 99.86% pieguy1372 1286 1212 / 74 / 191 101 2 0 Hidden,Flashlight

can video?
i dont think its possible

banxinbanyi

50%possible 50%fake
I only believe mikhe's FL records because he tried lot times and dont use any tools to help (only a paper and a pencik to record the hits)
need live video too

strange haha

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=51308&m=2 I think this is hard for me to believe. This jumping map I can merely pass with no mode and some luck also that Mikhe can do it with FL in a few playcounts. I did claim for a video before and he said he will do it. viewtopic.php?f=25&t=21061&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=555 here

qianantai3 wrote:

:? http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=51308&m=2 I think this is hard for me to believe. This jumping map I can merely pass with no mode and some luck also that Mikhe can do it with FL in a few playcounts. I did claim for a video before and he said he will do it. viewtopic.php?f=25&t=21061&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=555 here

Lol,

an S with 2 misses ?
bug ?

Keksi wrote:

qianantai3 wrote:

:? http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=51308&m=2 I think this is hard for me to believe. This jumping map I can merely pass with no mode and some luck also that Mikhe can do it with FL in a few playcounts. I did claim for a video before and he said he will do it. viewtopic.php?f=25&t=21061&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=555 here

Lol,

an S with 2 misses ?
bug ?

be quiet,boy

cause those jumps were too hard. even u can see through the FL it is still hard to fc. and Mikhe has already get the #1 so he doesnt have to go on.

lol mikhe is accused of cheating XD
even though im a FL noob, i think it's not so hard for FL pro to memorize it.

Banned:
Pookz(multi) : tsukata, Andreadoria
Rickisbb (multi): rickisb

Deleted:
#1 score Doubt & Trust[easy](taiko)

Ticketed:
CTB S bug (i352)

Under investigation:
pieguy1372

Arusha Shuna wrote:

lol mikhe is accused of cheating XD
even though im a FL noob, i think it's not so hard for FL pro to memorize it.

qianantai3 wrote:

cause those jumps were too hard. even u can see through the FL it is still hard to fc. and Mikhe has already get the #1 so he doesnt have to go on.

LirsRosso wrote:

be quiet, boy

Please don't argue about suspicious scores here. Just post them.

What the...?!

I don't cheat. First, you can see the notes with Hidden+Flashlight in Catch the Beat, though just for a split second. Second, look at my play counts.

720 plays - Hatsune Miku - Hatsune Miku no Shoushitsu [Uninstall]
300 plays - IOSYS - Marisa wa Taihen na Kanbu de Tomatte Ikimashita [Love]
300 plays - IOSYS - Marisa wa Taihen na Mono wo Nusunde Ikimashita [Hard]

In almost all cases, these amounts of plays are enough to memorize a map, and then FC it with Flashlight or Hidden+Flashlight in Catch the Beat.

Also, IIRC, ranks in Catch the Beat are based off of accuracy alone...it seems to be that anything 98.00% and above is an S. (Given that it's been this way all this time I'd assume it's intentional...)

LirsRosso wrote:

dont talk about mikhe,i just doubt pieguy1372
dt+hid≠hid+fl
hid+fl cant see anything
and you can try it :3

In CtB you can see a bit of the fruits on top before being cloaked by hidden, and it's quite easy to follow if they are not so separated.

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/16792
#1 5,213,860 96.60% Bikko 536 316 / 17 / 0 27 15 0 Hidden,HardRock,Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/17394
#1 10,466,441 96.79% Bikko 734 415 / 21 / 0 68 13 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/48437
#1 10,299,537 95.14% Bikko 793 496 / 39 / 0 69 21 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/62523
#1 5,869,761 98.69% Bikko 621 349 / 7 / 0 53 5 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/62408
#1 15,610,587 99.03% Bikko 770 543 / 8 / 0 119 8 0 Hidden,Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/34045
#2 12,827,560 98.77% Bikko 830 478 / 9 / 0 70 9 0 Flashlight


http://osu.ppy.sh/index.php?p=song&b=40894
#1 7,008,401 97.86% Bikko 552 422 / 14 / 0 73 8 0 Hidden,Flashlight



a corner of the iceberg

LirsRosso wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/16792
#1 5,213,860 96.60% Bikko 536 316 / 17 / 0 27 15 0 Hidden,HardRock,Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/17394
#1 10,466,441 96.79% Bikko 734 415 / 21 / 0 68 13 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/48437
#1 10,299,537 95.14% Bikko 793 496 / 39 / 0 69 21 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/62523
#1 5,869,761 98.69% Bikko 621 349 / 7 / 0 53 5 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/62408
#1 15,610,587 99.03% Bikko 770 543 / 8 / 0 119 8 0 Hidden,Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/34045
#2 12,827,560 98.77% Bikko 830 478 / 9 / 0 70 9 0 Flashlight


http://osu.ppy.sh/index.php?p=song&b=40894
#1 7,008,401 97.86% Bikko 552 422 / 14 / 0 73 8 0 Hidden,Flashlight



a corner of the iceberg

Bikko uses a touchscreen

touchscreen can 1 pc hid+fl
i will buy one
(あんたバカ？

ouranhshc wrote:

LirsRosso wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/16792
#1 5,213,860 96.60% Bikko 536 316 / 17 / 0 27 15 0 Hidden,HardRock,Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/17394
#1 10,466,441 96.79% Bikko 734 415 / 21 / 0 68 13 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/48437
#1 10,299,537 95.14% Bikko 793 496 / 39 / 0 69 21 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/62523
#1 5,869,761 98.69% Bikko 621 349 / 7 / 0 53 5 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/62408
#1 15,610,587 99.03% Bikko 770 543 / 8 / 0 119 8 0 Hidden,Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/34045
#2 12,827,560 98.77% Bikko 830 478 / 9 / 0 70 9 0 Flashlight


http://osu.ppy.sh/index.php?p=song&b=40894
#1 7,008,401 97.86% Bikko 552 422 / 14 / 0 73 8 0 Hidden,Flashlight



a corner of the iceberg

Bikko uses a touchscreen

looooool
touchscreen can help me FC ang song with Flashlight, how nice!
play songs with Flashlight, and no trajectory, how can he see these notes?ohh, this guy must have an amazing memory

Yeah, Touchscreen has disadvantage on sight searching, but has advantage. If you memorising as well, you can hit the note with only foresee. just be reckless.

I use grid panel and few marker to play FL. as i know, It is legit. also, I already accused for cheating once because of FL + HD. many people don't know about this case. My account already deleted once because of this case, but revived by peppy. (I was spected by peppy.)

If you see my replays, you can find out my play style is totally different when I use FL. I often use dragging to serach for the exact position of next note(sometimes not, If I practice much)

Also, who said I use only 1 PC in FL? hm?

LirsRosso wrote:

LoL image haha, btw i thought same but he explain me how play, he isn't a cheater, he only use marks for remember

how can touchscreen play FL ?
how to move the cursor to find notes with touchscreen ?
touchscreen is a tool one touch one hit without move,right?

can you make a video show me?

Bikko wrote:

Yeah, Touchscreen has disadvantage on sight searching, but has advantage. If you memorising as well, you can hit the note with only foresee. just be reckless.

I use grid pannel and few marker to play FL. as i know, It is legit. also, I already accused for cheating once because of FL + HD. many people don't know about this case. My account already deleted once because of this case, but revived by peppy. (I was spected by peppy.)

If you see my replays, you can find out my play style is totally different when I use FL. I often use dragging to serach for the exact position of next note(sometimes not, If I practice much)

Also, who said I use only 1 PC in FL? hm?

record a video when u r playing with your touchscreen okay?

where did you buy it?
and since you have shown your photo of your touchscreen
you are surely able to recorded a video about your playing with FL(+other mods) by your awesome touchscreen,right?
just do it and then all the questions will be clear

kaouji wrote:

how can touchscreen play FL ?
how to move the cursor to find notes with touchscreen ?
touchscreen is a tool one touch one hit without move,right?

can you make a video show me?

jamesleao wrote:

Bikko wrote:

Yeah, Touchscreen has disadvantage on sight searching, but has advantage. If you memorising as well, you can hit the note with only foresee. just be reckless.

I use grid pannel and few marker to play FL. as i know, It is legit. also, I already accused for cheating once because of FL + HD. many people don't know about this case. My account already deleted once because of this case, but revived by peppy. (I was spected by peppy.)

If you see my replays, you can find out my play style is totally different when I use FL. I often use dragging to serach for the exact position of next note(sometimes not, If I practice much)

Also, who said I use only 1 PC in FL? hm?

Crazy Jay wrote:

where did you buy it?
and since you have shown your photo of your touchscreen
you are surely able to recorded a video about your playing with FL(+other mods) by your awesome touchscreen,right?
just do it and then all the questions will be clear

record a video when u r playing with your touchscreen okay?

Oh, look what I found.

http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=5985&p=410107#p410107

hybrid579 wrote:

Oh, look what I found.

http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=5985&p=410107#p410107

It can proof nothing.

Well, the screen shot shows Bikko's touchscreen and as for Crazy Jay's question, here is the model for the touchscreen he uses.

http://www.hwayoungs.com/sub/product01_1.html


What more proof do you want?

Edit: Oh, by the way. This will explain about the cursor movement.

Bikko wrote:

when using touchscreen, cursor dosen't move until I touching or dragging.
so cursor can not show my finger moving perfectly.
in fact, I use my own skin with 1X1 invisible cursor. I don't need visible cursor until i have calibration problem.

If you found somthing similrar in my replays, that is my play style. just that.
and you can spectating me anytimes. and you''ll see always same things. a teleporting cursor. It's very natural phenomenon on touchscreen playing.

Oh guys please stop, he already spoken with Peppy, so he doesn't need to explain you again ~

HE ISN'T A CHEATER and has already been established

he, though needs to get a counter to keep track of how much times people accused him of cheating :D

Thank you loweh. but I want try to convince them. so, I write this post.


Unfortunately I don't have any device to record the video thing. I think, you say very easiliy 'just do it', but I can't make that kind of video. and I can't believe who accused for cheating can makes that kind of video always.

I did upload a poor quality picture of me in the past, but even that was difficult to me. I was borrow it from my friend, but I can not contact with that friend right now. and as I know he don't have camcorder thing either.

http://user.chol.com/~dynamiteneon/00/r ... raijin.zip

but I try to show something with effort. yeah, I don't have camcorder but I can record live video when I actually play the map. in this video, I show you my system administrator and what application in my memory (macroing, some application to cheat, anything, if there is something application possible to use cheat(in fact, I don't know about this much), plz send me PM, then I remake this video without that application. or I'll send you that file to analysis), and play the map with FL. it was very laggy so I couldn't make it FC in short time. but as I think, this record cleary show if I'm in my best condition I can make good result.

(I'll expalin some applications. DTLite.exe = daemontool, for CD image, wc11sta.exe = management for USB lancard, RTHDCPL.exe = Realtek HD Audio)

and I think, many one don't pay attention about a fact, I was spectated by peppy accidentally. as I know, It is a one of way to proof someone is a cheater or not. If I use cheat, I was purged in that moment instead revived. Please think about this.

deepsea wrote:

1.peppy can prove a player cheat or not cheat just through spec, this is much more convincing than all of our "common sense".

As I know, This Thread is not for argument. I'm very sorry about this happening. so, I'll stop here. but If I need to peppy's spectating again to proof my innocent, I can cleary say. I'm always ready.

LirsRosso wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/16792
#1 5,213,860 96.60% Bikko 536 316 / 17 / 0 27 15 0 Hidden,HardRock,Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/17394
#1 10,466,441 96.79% Bikko 734 415 / 21 / 0 68 13 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/48437
#1 10,299,537 95.14% Bikko 793 496 / 39 / 0 69 21 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/62523
#1 5,869,761 98.69% Bikko 621 349 / 7 / 0 53 5 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/62408
#1 15,610,587 99.03% Bikko 770 543 / 8 / 0 119 8 0 Hidden,Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/34045
#2 12,827,560 98.77% Bikko 830 478 / 9 / 0 70 9 0 Flashlight


http://osu.ppy.sh/index.php?p=song&b=40894
#1 7,008,401 97.86% Bikko 552 422 / 14 / 0 73 8 0 Hidden,Flashlight


a corner of the iceberg

Bikko accused of cheating, AGAIN?
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

ah... the wonders of touchmaster ~w~

The post to end ALL arguments about Bikko.

As a #korean moderator, I understand that I have no say about whether a player is cheating or not; that is up to the admins, not me.

However, I didn't become an irc moderator for nothing. I was recommended for the post because I was deemed reasonable, reliable, and responsible.

With that in mind, Bikko live-streamed himself playing osu! through afreeca.com, an internet broadcasting site in Korea. He showed me how he had no other processes running except osu!, afreeca player, and other necessities (wi-fi support, etc.), and then played this map with Hidden, HardRock, and Flashlight. He did not FC the song, but after watching three plays, I was totally convinced that his records are the result of his practice and skill, not cheating.

If you still think this is not enough and think I was fooled by Bikko, PM me and we will have a nice long discussion about it.

Lastly, I would like to stress that Bikko has already been cleared by none other than peppy himself. If you think you are better than peppy at telling if a player is cheating or not, go apply for an admin or something. I'm suyre peppy will be pleased to let you in the team.

I feel bad about posting this in this thread, this thread has been misused too much. However, I felt I had to say something.

For those who didn't understand,

STOP ACCUSING BIKKO, HE IS AS LEGIT AS YOU ARE. JUST CUZ YOU CAN'T DO IT DOESN'T MEAN EVERYONE ELSE CAN'T.



p.s.

Bikko wrote:

http://user.chol.com/~dynamiteneon/00/r ... raijin.zip

this link leads to two videos of bikko playing with flashlight (+various other modes). if you're so suspicious, watch.