Another Lie wrote:

This is what i'm looking for. I thought no one mapped it with good chart

SV for all diff

1. create new diff without any green timing [including kiai], then paste it

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Note 7K

01:52:066 - add note for impact bell additional sound?
02:42:449 (162449|2,162449|5,162537|5,162537|2) - isn't this is same sound as 02:41:743 (161743|0,161743|2,161831|2,161831|0) - ?
04:46:684 (286684|5,286684|2,286772|2,286772|5) - same like above 04:45:978 (285978|2,285978|0,286066|0,286066|2) -

It takes long time to do it, since i'm pretty lazy person -_-

Ryzen wrote:

Another Lie wrote:

This is what i'm looking for. I thought no one mapped it with good chart

SV for all diff

1. create new diff without any green timing [including kiai], then paste it

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thanks a lot for sv , some of them get a slightly edit to make them avg x1.0

Note 7K

01:52:066 - add note for impact bell additional sound? ok
02:42:449 (162449|2,162449|5,162537|5,162537|2) - isn't this is same sound as 02:41:743 (161743|0,161743|2,161831|2,161831|0) - ? it is a little bit higher
04:46:684 (286684|5,286684|2,286772|2,286772|5) - same like above 04:45:978 (285978|2,285978|0,286066|0,286066|2) -

It takes long time to do it, since i'm pretty lazy person -_-

Protastic101 wrote:

dorian's right, but it should probably be more like +20

recheck

[7k]
01:06:895 (66895|1,67071|1,67248|2) - add kicks (do the same in 4k)

01:18:660 - missing a note here in the 1/6 burst blame ice for randomly stop his piano roll , but add it anyways to make a flow

01:26:483 (86483|1,86660|1,86836|1,87013|1) - is this four note stack really necessary? Might be better to move 01:26:836 (86836|1) - to 3 to break it up ok

01:42:630 (102630|0,102718|2,102807|1) - Why not mirror this with 01:42:366 (102366|4,102454|5,102542|6) - ? Sure, the four note chord won't be symmetrical anymore, but I still think it's fine as it generally uses the same hand movement, like so https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8497080
01:44:042 (104042|6,104130|4,104218|5,104307|6,104307|0,104307|2,104307|4,104483|4,104483|0,104483|6,104483|2) - ^ ok

01:51:366 (111366|4) - add kick here and in 4k diff too. The sound is the same as 01:50:483 - which also used a kick + crash ok

02:09:189 (129189|2,129277|1,129366|0,129454|1,129542|2) - Would try to avoid a turn like this on one hand only. I'd split it to both if possible, like this maybe https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8497097 ok

02:10:248 (130248|0,130336|1,130424|2,130513|1,130601|0) - 02:10:954 (130954|0,131042|1,131130|2,131218|1,131307|0) - got a lot of the same type of movement here. Might be good to try and mirror it so that the strain is mostly even on both hands change the pattern

02:26:307 (146307|0,146366|2,146424|4,146483|6,146542|2,146601|4) - Think it might be a cool idea to extend some of these LNs so that they overlap with each other like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8497105 though you may want to extend the LNs in such a a way that all the short ones aren't only just on one hand ok

02:28:601 (148601|2,148601|5,148689|4,148777|3) - to avoid the turn on the right hand, I'd arrange this more like so https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8497112 well, i think (and test) that turn is actually ezier to play and read it

03:34:424 - lmao, i forgot keysounds exist. Fix these in both diffs
03:43:601 (223601|0,223954|0) - E2
03:44:307 (224307|0,224660|0) - Eb2

04:05:483 - You can probs add a chord here since you have one in the 4k diff too

04:30:189 - disapproval but it's ok since it's only a few beats

04:38:483 (278483|4,278571|3) - Would control J here (be sure to move the hitsound too) so that the bursts roll in the same direction cause the pitch is ascending throughout

04:42:189 (282189|1) - where's mah crash. I'd also add a note in the 4k diff too and add a crash for that also
04:47:836 (287836|5) - tfw missing crash again, but only in 7k diff :thinking:

04:50:660 (290660|2,291013|1) - missing snares in both diffs

05:33:718 (333718|3) - missing kick
05:37:601 (337601|5) - ^

05:42:807 (342807|0) - Pretty sure there's no 1/4 here, but only 1/6 because both the piano and strings are 1/6 trills as there are 4 sounds from 05:42:718 - to 05:42:895 - ok

05:45:189 - to 05:45:366 - is 1/6, not 1/8. Should look like this (fix it in the 4k diff too) https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8497243 ok

06:01:866 (361866|3) - I dont think this note actually belongs? It's not present within the 4K diff, though that can be attributed as not having enough columns, but there really isn't any sound there as far as Im aware. its the same sound as in 06:01:792 (361792|2) - and 06:01:704 (361704|1) - , yeah and i didnt add it in 4k because it would be too dense


[4k]
01:18:542 (78542|3,78601|2,78660|1,78718|0,78777|1,78836|2) - i vaguely remember telling you why you needed to reconsider existence because of patterns like this :thinking: lol i think i fix it but :/

02:12:277 (132277|1,132366|2) - I would control J this (move hitsounds if done) so that the notes roll in the same direction as the previous 3-2 notes because the pitch continues to descend ok

02:44:042 (164042|1,164130|2,164218|3,164307|1,164307|0,164395|3,164483|2,164571|1) - Im personally just not a fan of stuff like this. It looks solid from a visual standpoint cause of the symmetry but playing wise, it's a bit heavy on the right hand because there's where all the movement is. I would do something like this instead https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8497312 ok

03:19:777 - Might try to represent the pitch relevancy here with a mirror so instead of going down, it goes up against the pitch, like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8497325 ok

04:30:307 (270307|1,270424|1) - probably just me being a bad player but Im consistently missing here and I think the reason why is cause this is the only 1/3 minijack present throughout the burst. I would try to balance out the spacing between notes a bit more like so instead https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8497338 ok fixed

05:43:160 (343160|2,343248|3,343336|2) - whew, these are kind of starting to kill me after playing them like 10 times in a row because of how uneven their strain is. fixed

05:44:130 (344130|1,344307|1,344483|1,344660|1,344836|1,345013|1) - hi, do you want to talk about our lord and savior anchors? Move 05:44:483 (344483|1) - to 4, 05:44:836 (344836|1) - to 3, 05:44:924 (344924|2,345013|1,345101|2) - control H, 05:45:189 (345189|0) - to 4. That should help reduce it. :thank:

05:59:366 (359366|2,359424|1,359483|0,359542|1,359601|2) - sobs fixed , it should be better now

06:02:660 - slowjam disapproval D:<

Mentholzzz wrote:

I'm not sure but is 05:50:498 - in 1/8 or 1/6 snap

4K

00:09:770 (9770|3,9770|1,10020|3,10020|1) - and 00:09:770 (9770|3,9770|1,10020|3,10020|1) - are different sounds, replace one of them on another columns

00:34:528 - 00:34:881 - 00:35:586 - 00:37:351 - 00:37:704 - 00:38:410 - 00:41:233 - 00:42:998 - 00:44:057 - 00:45:822 - 00:46:881 - and etc. - i'm not sure, do you expressly miss these sounds? This is marathon, so, no reasons to make diff easier

00:58:439 - 00:59:145 - 00:59:851 - 01:00:557 - and etc. - i recommend to use triples for these finish sounds

01:01:616 - this is should be double. Same sounds as 01:01:704 (61704|0,61704|1,61792|3,61792|2,61881|1,61881|0)

01:01:704 (61704|0,61704|1,61792|3,61792|2,61881|1,61881|0) - don't looks like you wanted to do it

01:41:675 - make this triple 124 as 01:41:498 - this to coincide with 01:42:910 - 01:44:322 - 01:47:145 - and etc.

02:22:969 (142969|2,142969|3,143145|3,143145|2) - why you make here two doubles in a same column? You didn't make it before. You can keep this but, 01:15:204 - make here same

02:37:439 - 02:37:792 - should be doubles, 02:37:977 - triple

02:43:439 - double

03:30:733 (210733|2,210733|3,210910|3,210910|2) - i pointed this out (did you ctrl+C ctrl+V this part? owo)

04:03:381 - can you just.. uh.. this is actually the hardest part of you map lmao, i can FC everything besides this. You can keep this pattern, but wait for angry players then

04:27:204 (267204|2,267204|3,267381|3,267381|2) - i pointed this out uwu

04:30:028 (270028|0,270028|3,270204|3,270204|0) - same

Mage wrote:

Hello!

Mentholzzz wrote:

I'm not sure but is 05:50:498 - in 1/8 or 1/6 snap

I hear only two 1/4 sounds

1|2|3|4
1|2|3|4|5|6|7

4K

00:09:770 (9770|3,9770|1,10020|3,10020|1) - and 00:09:770 (9770|3,9770|1,10020|3,10020|1) - are different sounds, replace one of them on another columns ok

00:34:528 - 00:34:881 - 00:35:586 - 00:37:351 - 00:37:704 - 00:38:410 - 00:41:233 - 00:42:998 - 00:44:057 - 00:45:822 - 00:46:881 - and etc. - i'm not sure, do you expressly miss these sounds? This is marathon, so, no reasons to make diff easier ok

00:58:439 - 00:59:145 - 00:59:851 - 01:00:557 - and etc. - i recommend to use triples for these finish sounds i think that double here is enough because the part after this i use triple for a very loud sound (like 01:07:616 - )

01:01:616 - this is should be double. Same sounds as 01:01:704 (61704|0,61704|1,61792|3,61792|2,61881|1,61881|0) ok

01:01:704 (61704|0,61704|1,61792|3,61792|2,61881|1,61881|0) - don't looks like you wanted to do it what?

01:41:675 - make this triple 124 as 01:41:498 - this to coincide with 01:42:910 - 01:44:322 - 01:47:145 - and etc. ok

02:22:969 (142969|2,142969|3,143145|3,143145|2) - why you make here two doubles in a same column? You didn't make it before. You can keep this but, 01:15:204 - make here same fixed

02:37:439 - 02:37:792 - should be doubles, 02:37:977 - triple ok

02:43:439 - double ok

03:30:733 (210733|2,210733|3,210910|3,210910|2) - i pointed this out (did you ctrl+C ctrl+V this part? owo) ok

04:03:381 - can you just.. uh.. this is actually the hardest part of you map lmao, i can FC everything besides this. You can keep this pattern, but wait for angry players then i have no pattern to map this piano trill beside trill lol, this part isnt that hard just drain stam and the last kiai is much harder than this part imo

04:27:204 (267204|2,267204|3,267381|3,267381|2) - i pointed this out uwu ok

04:30:028 (270028|0,270028|3,270204|3,270204|0) - same

ok

7K

00:04:270 (4270|1,4270|6) - would be cool if this double will be placed on same column as 00:03:770 (3770|0,3770|3) - this double ok

00:19:395 - why you make here double but 00:18:395 - here don't? fixed

00:19:895 - i hear two sounds, double? ok

01:35:675 - should be triple ok

01:41:322 - i don't think here should be triple :/ Sound isn't same as 01:40:969 ok

01:50:498 - should be triple ok

02:48:998 - 02:49:175 - wow triples, this is too much, make doubles ok

04:03:381 - same as in 4K mod =) same as 4k diff as well =)

Awesome map, good luck!

tatatat wrote:

You asked me to mod the hitsounds, so I did.
The hitsounds are too loud in the beginning, I noticed you have a constant hitsound volume throughout the map, so this is a suggestion for when you decide to change that. It shouldn't start getting loud until 00:33:734 - keep them
Also maybe I'm just a dumbass but I from what I've gathered at the beginning of the song, the time signature shouldn't be 4/4, probably 3/4. I think its 4/4

A2.wav has a .85ms delay
C#2.wav has a .15ms or a .625ms delay, depends which audio track you count.
C2.wav has a .2ms or a .55ms delay, depends which audio track you count.

Clap.wav has a .046ms delay. really not noticeable ever, just letting you know.
Closed HH.wav has a .035ms delay. Same explanation as above.
Crash Closed.wav has a .035ms delay. Same explanation as above.

E2.wav has a .035ms or 1.3ms delay, depending on which audio track you count.
Eb2.wav has a .125ms or a 1.033ms delay. Same explanation as above.
F2.wav has a .08ms or a .61ms delay. Same explanation as above.
G#2.wav has a 1.37ms or a 1.645ms delay. Same explanation as above.
G2.wav has a .7ms delay.
Kick 2.wav has 10.181ms of unused sound at the end of it.
soft-hitnormal.wav has about 25ms of sound that is unused at the end that can be removed, while still retaining at 100ms length for the hitsound


Sorry if I was off by a decimal point somewhere. I'm sleepy.
Also maybe tone down the HP a little? the hp and od is a bit high to test stam of the player

SPOILER

Rivals_7 wrote:

kamui inc

bruh
o fuk i miss aimod aaaaaaaaa

[Snap]

03:45:028 - ok uh inconsistent piano distance making me uvuvuwvuwe #blamecomposer

fixed one <-> your current snap
Pretty sure the last 2 note and 2 LNs there are a little bit early and they should be snapped 1/12 later. ok applied

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[4K]

00:54:910 (54910|0,54910|1) - can give this some sort of LN gimmick tbh
https://puu.sh/wJ2rT/45de9a0b3d.png
but its up to you not gonna do that because it will make that part harder than what it should

01:20:322 (80322|0) - move to 2. particualrly the piano is not in the same pitch ok

01:25:439 - uh piano? i dont hear the main piano sound there

02:26:028 (146028|3,146086|0,146145|2,146204|1,146263|3,146498|3,146557|0,146616|2) - so uh i kinda dont get why do you alternating this roll. its kinda uncomfy to hit imo. just the the usual connected roll changed

04:03:381 (243381|2) - holy celestia inner trill

[7K]

ok diffname is actually trigerring me
remove "e" from "finale" since that word are only used when its placed in the end of the sentence

00:18:395 (18395|3) - you can do double i guess keep the single here because cant hear the 2nd piano sound

01:09:733 (69733|3,69822|4) - so the piano is like descending all the time so why is this the only one that ascended ok

01:52:439 (112439|3) - move to 6. the piano pitch starting higher on that point again ok

01:53:145 (113145|2,113145|5) - honestly though feel that the snare could be layered for at least 3 notes because u know. emphasis xd
its alsohave 1/2 distance between next and the pattern before so proper react time \o/
also to differentiate them with most piano chords which is double in most of the time fix and applied to a lot of place in the song

01:53:851 (113851|1,113851|4) - ^
well i think it could be applied for all i guess ^

02:49:792 (169792|2,169792|6,169792|0) - i'm actually tilted euegehue
move - 02:49:616 (169616|4,169792|6) - to 6|5 respectively for better reading ok

02:50:586 (170586|3,170675|2) - 3|5. same ok

02:52:792 (172792|4) - 7. smea ok

03:00:910 (180910|5,180910|2) - snare triple thing ^

04:21:733 (261733|3,261822|4) - same as - 01:09:733 ok

05:05:145 (305145|4,305322|6) - looks familiar

05:17:851 (317851|5,317851|2) - snareeeee ^

05:56:013 (356013|5) - k i dont think i heard piano here ok
4k as well

overall is a solid map whew
call prot back for a bub after this

MrDorian wrote:

hi owo/

gib me dat sweet kudos part 1: destroying 4k diff

20:30 *MrDorian is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1310538 Ice - Parodia Sonatina -Grande- [4K Rondo of the Euphoria]]
20:30 MrDorian: owo
20:31 Mentholzzz: owo
20:32 MrDorian: some anchors hurt me so much
20:32 MrDorian: but pitch revelancy D:
20:33 Mentholzzz: the anchor in the beginning is :^)
20:33 MrDorian: reconsider ur life pls
20:33 *MrDorian runs
20:34 Mentholzzz: D:
20:34 MrDorian: 00:53:498 - starting from here you could just do a hand stream
20:35 MrDorian: because of sounds in the background
20:35 MrDorian: look at discord
20:36 MrDorian: private messages ofs
20:36 MrDorian: ofc
20:37 Mentholzzz: ok
20:37 MrDorian: 00:52:616 (52616|0) - move to 3 pls
20:37 MrDorian: anchor on 1 hurts my soul
20:37 MrDorian: (which doesn't exist, but still hurst)
20:38 Mentholzzz: lol ok
20:39 MrDorian: 01:26:145 (86145|1,86322|1,86498|1,86763|1,86939|1) - you could rearrange this
20:39 MrDorian: because it is used the most here
20:40 MrDorian: fourth column is only 1/1
20:40 MrDorian: so maybe 01:26:498 (86498|1,86586|2) - to 3 and 01:26:586 (86586|2) - to 4
20:40 MrDorian: 01:26:675 (86675|3) - and this to 3
20:41 Mentholzzz: ok
20:42 MrDorian: 01:52:086 (112086|0) - why only one note here
20:42 MrDorian: you can hear bell and piano
20:43 MrDorian: look on discord
20:44 Mentholzzz: oki
20:45 MrDorian: 02:14:498 (134498|2,134586|1,134675|2,134851|1) - ctrl+h maybe?
20:45 MrDorian: anchor on 3
20:45 MrDorian: 5 notes
20:45 MrDorian: ew
20:45 MrDorian: and it is more pitch correct
20:46 Mentholzzz: okay
20:46 MrDorian: 02:39:645 (159645|3,159733|3) - move to third collumn
20:46 MrDorian: pls
20:46 MrDorian: is different pitch
20:47 MrDorian: and you were only making 1 and 4 minijacks
20:47 MrDorian: 02:41:763 (161763|3,161851|3) - you could also move this to second column
20:47 MrDorian: and rearrange a bit
20:48 MrDorian: 02:42:469 (162469|0,162557|0) - and this to fourth column
20:48 MrDorian: for pitch ofc
20:48 Mentholzzz: oki
20:50 MrDorian: 02:54:028 (174028|0,174028|2,174204|1,174204|3,174292|0,174381|2,174469|0,174557|2,174645|1,174733|3,174822|1,174910|2,174910|3,174910|0) - ctrl+h for pitch?
20:50 MrDorian: 02:54:292 (174292|0,174822|1) - this goes high>down
20:51 Mentholzzz: ok
20:51 MrDorian: 03:05:586 (185586|3) - ghost note?
20:52 MrDorian: according to last kiai
20:52 MrDorian: first*
20:52 MrDorian: 01:57:733 (117733|1,117733|3,117733|0,117910|1,117998|2,118086|3,118086|0) - the same sounds
20:52 MrDorian: mapped different way
20:53 Mentholzzz: ok deleted
20:54 MrDorian: 03:08:410 (188410|0) - another ghost note
20:55 Mentholzzz: ok
20:56 MrDorian: 03:19:616 (199616|0,199616|1,199792|0,199881|1,200057|0,200145|1,200322|0,200322|1,200498|0,200586|1,200763|0,200851|1,201028|0,201028|1,201204|1,201292|0,201469|1,201557|0,201733|0,201733|1) - too many notes here
20:56 MrDorian: right hand is barely used
20:56 MrDorian: so rearrange it a bit
20:56 MrDorian: if you could
20:56 Mentholzzz: oki
20:57 MrDorian: 03:20:498 (200498|0,200586|1,200675|3,200675|2,200763|0,200851|1,200939|2,201028|1,201028|0,201028|3) - ctrl+h'ing this will work
20:57 MrDorian: wait
20:57 MrDorian: are these parts copied
20:57 MrDorian: kiais
20:57 MrDorian: they look exactly the same
20:58 MrDorian: you should rearrange some parts a bit to not make it so visible
20:58 Mentholzzz: o oki
21:00 MrDorian: 03:35:145 (215145|0,215498|0,215851|0,216204|0,216557|0,216910|0,217263|0,217616|0,217969|0,218322|0,218675|0,219028|0,219381|0,219733|0,219910|0,220086|0) - and 03:36:557 (216557|3,216910|3,217263|3,217616|3,217969|3,218322|3,218675|3,219028|3,219204|3,219381|3,219733|3) - were an intention, right?
21:01 Mentholzzz: yes
21:01 MrDorian: okay
21:01 MrDorian: nice lns owo
21:02 MrDorian: 03:49:792 (229792|3,229881|0,229969|2,229969|1,230057|3,230145|0,230233|2,230322|3,230322|1) - these and so on
21:03 MrDorian: 04:03:381 (243381|2,243439|1,243498|2,243557|1,243616|2,243675|1,243733|2,243792|1,243851|2,243910|1,243969|2,244028|1,244086|2,244145|1,244204|2,244263|1,244322|2,244381|1,244439|2,244498|1,244557|2,244616|1,244675|2,244733|1,244792|2,244851|1,244910|2,244969|1,245028|2,245086|1,245145|2,245204|1,245263|2,245322|1,245381|2,245439|1,245498|2) - this is so spiky
21:03 Mentholzzz: :thinking:
21:03 Mentholzzz: ooooo this trill
21:03 MrDorian: I'd recommend you making 1 3 2 4
21:03 MrDorian: still tricky
21:03 MrDorian: but a bit easier
21:04 Mentholzzz: it isnt that hard tho tbh... just 255 trill
21:04 MrDorian: >just 255 trill
21:04 MrDorian: p l s
21:04 MrDorian: is this BLASTIX RIOTZ
21:05 Mentholzzz: 1 bpm slower
21:05 MrDorian: people will hate you for both, but the I think my proposition is more comfortable
21:05 MrDorian: you could also make 12 43, but it would be too easy
21:06 Mentholzzz: 1324 is harder than 2323 tbh its like you can just hammer 23 if u cant trill fast enough
21:07 MrDorian: well that's just my proposition
21:08 MrDorian: map is like 170 handstreams with some easy bursts and here comes 255 bpm trill
21:08 MrDorian: this doesn't play comfortable
21:08 MrDorian: you should talk about it with protastic
21:09 Mentholzzz: oki
21:09 MrDorian: 04:48:204 (288204|0,288204|1,288381|1,288469|0,288645|0,288733|1,288910|0,288910|1,289086|0,289175|1,289351|1,289439|0,289616|0,289616|1,289792|1,289881|0,290057|1,290145|0,290322|0,290322|1) - remember to fix this as well
21:10 Mentholzzz: ok
21:11 MrDorian: 05:27:733 (327733|2,327910|2,328086|2,328263|2,328439|2) -
21:11 MrDorian: dat anchor
21:11 MrDorian: 05:27:910 (327910|2,327998|3,328086|2) - ctrl+h
21:11 MrDorian: oh wait
21:11 MrDorian: it doesn't change antyhing
21:11 Mentholzzz: anchor still there tho D:
21:11 MrDorian: 05:28:263 (328263|2) - to 1
21:12 Mentholzzz: oki
21:14 MrDorian: 06:01:263 (361263|3,361263|1,361263|0,361616|2,361616|3,361616|0) - could you make these 2 notes?
21:14 MrDorian: hands combined with 1/6 on this bpm are not really comfortable
21:14 MrDorian: and is some kind of spike I think
21:14 MrDorian: are*
21:16 Mentholzzz: :thinking:
21:16 MrDorian: if you don't want to, then it's okay
21:16 MrDorian: so it's all for this diff
21:16 MrDorian: lemme download 7k diff really fast
21:17 Mentholzzz: wait
21:17 Mentholzzz: my com is on low battery now
21:17 Mentholzzz: i think i cant continue rn
21:17 MrDorian: ok
21:17 Mentholzzz: qwq
21:17 MrDorian: qwq
21:19 Mentholzzz: and its 2am here now also lol
21:19 Mentholzzz: gotta sleep bai
21:19 MrDorian: bai owo/
21:19 Mentholzzz: owo/
21:19 MrDorian: call me when u'll be free
21:19 MrDorian: for 7k nuking

gib me dat sweet kudos final part: destroying 7k diff

13:11 MrDorian: 00:01:520 (1520|1,1770|4,1770|6,2020|4,2020|6,2270|1,2395|3,2520|5,2770|2,2770|0,3020|2,3020|0) - this hurts me so much, because pr is ignored
13:11 MrDorian: ;w;
13:11 MrDorian: maybe 00:01:520 (1520|1,1770|4,1770|6,2020|4,2020|6,2270|1,2395|3,2520|5,2770|2,2770|0,3020|2,3020|0,3270|6) - ctrl+h this
13:11 MrDorian: and after ctrl+h
13:12 MrDorian: 00:02:270 (2270|5,2395|3,2520|1) - ctrl+h this
13:12 MrDorian: will look nicer I think
13:12 Mentholzzz: oki
13:13 MrDorian: 00:28:395 (28395|1,28520|3) - ctrl+j for pith
13:13 MrDorian: pitch
13:14 Mentholzzz: ok
13:15 MrDorian: 00:39:381 (39381|1,39381|2) - could you make this 13? you use second column a bit
13:16 Mentholzzz: ok
13:17 MrDorian: 00:53:498 (53498|3) - you could start making stream here as well
13:17 MrDorian: like in 4k
13:18 MrDorian: for consistency between diffs
13:19 Mentholzzz: o oki
13:20 MrDorian: 01:04:263 (64263|6,64263|2) - I do not really think this should be 2 notes
13:20 MrDorian: I don't hear any sounds for it
13:20 MrDorian: 01:04:351 (64351|5) - drums start from here
13:21 Mentholzzz: o ook
13:23 MrDorian: 02:00:028 (120028|5) - you have no note here in 4k dif
13:25 Mentholzzz: umm the note there is for the drum
13:26 MrDorian: so add it in 4k diff as well
13:26 Mentholzzz: ok
13:27 MrDorian: 02:58:439 (178439|4) - move to 7, 5th column has a lot of notes
13:27 Mentholzzz: ok
13:28 MrDorian: 03:28:175 (208175|4,208263|3,208351|2,208439|1,208439|4,208528|3,208616|2,208704|1) - ctrl+j for pitch
13:28 Mentholzzz: oki
13:34 MrDorian: it's all I think
13:34 Mentholzzz: o
13:34 MrDorian: I'm bad at modding 7k though :'/
13:35 MrDorian: so posting part 2

edit: I found some hitsound issues

hitsounds 7k

01:47:145 (107145|4,107145|1) - kick used twice
02:32:145 (152145|4) - missing kick
05:48:557 (348557|6) - missing kick

hitsounds 4k

03:08:675 (188675|0) - missing kick
04:02:675 (242675|3) - missing ride
04:51:381 (291381|2) - missing snare

hue

Protastic101 wrote:

if i dont specify which diff, assume both

01:30:028 - add closed HH
01:40:881 - remove kick
01:51:381 (111381|3) - add kick in 4k
03:34:439 - Just gonna mention here that even at 70% vol, the keysounds are a bit difficult to hear. Think using 100% in this case is fine so that it's not impossibly quiet.
05:48:910 (348910|0) - missing kick in 7k diff

04:41:851 (281851|2,282028|2,282204|2,282381|2,282557|2) - Last thing, in the 4K diff, this is kind of a long stack :thinking:

Ok, so I was wondering why the hitnormal sounded so soft 90% of the time despite being at 50% default vol, and it turns out that whatever hitsound copier you used from before put all your notes at 20% cause that was the default from before. Now, you could make this a pain and go through deleting and readding every note in the diff, or you can just go to notepad, control H for find and replace, then do find - 20: and replace - 0: https://puu.sh/wOVTR.png

ArcherLove wrote:

menthol actually ranks maps :thinking:

KittyAdventure wrote:

Btw, are you sure for metadata? Can you give me a source if this song is has in Deemo? Because only Parodia Sonatina Var.II in Deemo

Kawawa wrote:

Hello!!
I think the one thing must be modified.

05:12:910 - to 05:14:675 - Here is a issue for the readable.

05:12:969 (312969|2) - 05:13:028 (313028|0) - 05:13:145 (313145|5) -
05:13:204 (313204|4) - 05:14:557 (314557|5) - 05:14:616 (314616|1) -
My point is the one that SV with poly rhythm.

To be precise, SVs are focused the Main crash drum on the 1/2 and 1/4th section.
so it gives a precise sense of distance to player for it only. but 1/3 rhythms are not.
Since SV did not focus on 1/3, Each 1/3 rhythm shows a different sense of distance. yeah, looks random.
https://puu.sh/wQKop/0d4728b890.jpg
https://puu.sh/wQKo1/94f922063d.jpg

Actually, the player can't recognize this as a 1/3 rhythm(only know when see them in edit)

Even if they recognize them, it affects to playable by readable.

If you have a skill to play this chart, It's easy to notice. Ok , the sv is fixed now.

Except above, Some beat snaps are wrong exactly, I will comment it tomorrow. done, below

Based on 7K Chart

00:54:733 - to 00:54:910 - 1/8th. It is following with 00:52:792 -
It just fainted by other instruments

04:05:851 - to 04:06:028 - 1/8th. It's same 1/8 piano structure with around.

04:57:969 - There is a 1/6 piano.
I guess you intentionally ignored it, but I think It actually does not feel jump here. I really can't hear any piano here tbh

05:00:800 (300800|3,300866|2) - Should be snapped at 1/6. each 05:00:792 - 05:00:851 -
I think you feel they are delayed a bit, it can be calculated as 1/6th.
in addition, the offset is actually fast than mp3(check it once again, I also felt it is fast a bit) so you might misunderstand by that.

05:49:969 - to 05:50:145 - 1/8th.

05:50:542 (350542|2) - Honestly I don't feel any delay here.
Yeah, It is emphasized more than previous part 03:22:263 - 02:14:498 -
I think there will be a better way to make it highlight than delay.

05:53:498 - to 05:53:675 - 1/6th. (+ 05:53:675 - to 05:53:763 - 1/8 is only here, up to you skip or not)

06:00:381 - to 06:00:557 - 1/8th. seems you misunderstand. It's faster than 06:01:086 - to 06:01:263 - can compare anyway.

And I think the pattern needs to be improved through what Arzenvald said.
Good luck for the ranked!

SV + other snap issues is applied thanks a lot

Arzenvald wrote:

ah grats! my opinion, its just

right streams, anchors, & brackets

00:34:969 (34969|3,34969|5,35057|4,35145|3,35234|4,35322|5,35322|3) -
00:36:204 (36204|5,36292|4,36381|5,36469|4,36557|5) -
00:39:028 (39028|6,39116|5,39204|4,39292|6,39292|5,39381|4) -
00:44:675 (44675|5,44763|4,44851|5,44939|3,45028|5) -
00:46:351 (46351|4,46351|5,46439|6,46439|3,46528|4,46528|5) -
00:51:998 (51998|4,51998|6,52086|3,52086|5,52175|4,52263|5) -
00:58:704 (58704|5,58792|4,58881|5,59057|5) -
01:00:204 (60204|5,60292|4,60381|5,60469|4,60557|5) -
01:00:733 (60733|4,60733|6,60822|5,60822|3,60910|4,61086|3,61175|4,61263|5,61263|3,61263|6,61439|4,61528|5,61528|3,61616|6,61616|4) -
01:02:410 (62410|4,62498|5,62586|4,62675|5) -
01:03:204 (63204|4,63204|5,63292|3,63381|4,63469|3) -
01:30:733 (90733|3,90822|5,90910|3,91439|5,91528|3,91616|5,91792|6,91881|4,91969|6,92145|4,92233|6,92322|4,92498|3,92586|5,92675|3) -
01:35:675 (95675|5,95763|4,95851|3,95939|4,96028|5,96116|4,96204|5) -
01:36:645 (96645|4,96733|5,96822|4,96998|5,97086|4,97175|5,97528|5,97616|4,97704|5,97792|3,97881|4,97969|3,98145|4,98233|3,98322|4) -
01:39:292 (99292|5,99381|6,99469|5,99557|4,99645|3,99733|5,99733|4,99822|3,99910|4) -
01:40:086 (100086|6,100175|4,100263|6,100351|5,100351|4,100439|6) -
01:40:086 (100086|6,100263|6,100439|6,100616|6,100792|6,100881|4,100969|6,101057|4,101145|6,101233|4,101410|4,101498|6) -

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01:54:028 (114028|5,114116|4,114204|3,114292|4,114381|5,114557|4,114645|5,114733|6,114822|5,114910|4) -
01:58:263 (118263|4,118439|5,118439|4,118439|3,118528|6,118616|4,118704|5,118792|3,118881|4,118969|5,119057|3,119145|4) -
02:09:028 (129028|5,129116|4,129204|5,129381|6,129557|6,129733|3,129733|6,129910|3) -
02:12:910 (132910|6,133086|6,133263|6,133528|4,133616|3,133616|6,133704|4,133881|3,133969|4,134057|3,134057|5,134145|6,134233|4,134322|6,134410|4) -

left streams, anchors, & brackets

00:43:616 (43616|1,43704|2,43792|1) -
00:52:086 (52086|2,52175|1,52263|2) -
00:59:498 (59498|2,59586|0,59675|2,59763|0,59851|2) -
01:27:910 (87910|2,88086|1,88086|2,88175|0,88263|1,88351|0) -
01:35:322 (95322|1,95410|2,95498|0,95586|2,95675|1,95763|2) -
01:36:116 (96116|1,96204|2,96292|1,96733|1,96822|2,96910|1,97439|2,97528|1,97616|2,98233|0,98322|2,98410|0,98498|2,98586|0) -

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02:05:498 (125498|1,125498|2,125586|0,125675|1,125763|2,125851|3,125851|0,125939|1,126028|2) -

*things i listed is pretty much where one side has sightly different intensity to play than another, some are very contrast to notice, i don't want to point out everything after the 2nd minute aaaaaaa
the more i get into the middle, its become less right biased, but towards the end it repeats again

this means the excessive unnecessary trills, brackets, and anchors are placed in right hand, i played this map through so i can tell that, also easily noticed in the editor as well, so even you can't play it, you can tell how much the weightness in the 5-6-7th column, added with the 4th column (S key)

tl;dr the hand balance in this map is highly right biased, you really need to spread it evenly

ps: i noticed the note amount in left (123) and right (567) is almost equal, but the pattern usage and its hand balance is really contrast, added the spacebar (S 4th column), my right hand feels really sore to mash those trills accurately and endlessly, but most of them not in sensible, rhythmical way

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2nd, not to forget some part are space-bar biased, which S (4th column / its like scratch key on 8K) are played in jarred and unintuitive way to play because of its not really that organized..

this is not a big issue, but you can use this idea to improve several fitting parts / structures that supported with the background audio. this means the idea shouldn't have to be applied for everything, but to having the S key mapped more organized is definitely a better approach for the mapping & the map

01:19:792 (79792|3,80322|3,80675|3,80851|3) - would plays differently than 01:22:086 (82086|3) - and 01:22:792 (82792|3,83498|3) - because here, the spacebar layer the exact downbeats..

or

05:17:498 (317498|3,317851|3,318204|3,318557|3) - after 4 beats, then comes this random 3/4 05:18:557 (318557|3,318822|3,319086|3) -

tl;dr organize the spacebar / S key / 4th column, emphasize the important downbeats with spacebar like how you emphasize important downbeats with chords, and try not to use it if its unnecessary / not being in the downbeats, with an exception a full column staircases pattern and other thingies


i guess you can apply the same idea to most part where you rely the percussion layering, because that way the structure in this 7K diff would be even more perfect! :3

ps : since the vast majority 7K players plays the 4th column on spacebar with their thumb (except myself and few other), this is one of a quiet fatal mistake where the 4th column weren't treated as special key too often

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3rd, i don't want to make a long paragraph about the piano-pitch placement, just another tl;dr

00:03:270 (3270|0,3395|4) - https://puu.sh/wQAIk/61f5369514.png
the non-highlighted notes is the lower piano notes, they could be arranged as 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 like C D E F G A B A G F E D C in piano, while maintaining the highlighted notes for the higher piano notes, i couldn't barely find this idea even in the most, authentic part such in
01:12:557 (72557|1) - where something like https://puu.sh/wQChF/8dcd45a688.png would definitely :
> follows the pitch in term of techincal
> more aesthetics in term of visual, and also
> better flow while playing it.

01:15:381 (75381|4,75381|0,75469|1,75557|2,75645|3,75733|4,75733|1,75822|2,75910|3,75998|4,76086|5) - not a big fan of reversed pr because reversed flow doesn't looks that "nice", more like unintended "acceptable stylized style" that been around, just in my opinion

why so? its unlike other lower key where utilizing the piano pitch is depends on the note placement towards the limited finger movement and the column amount, 7K requires more finger to play, and has 7 column to see, bigger platform to expand the ideas, in this case, to simulate the piano keys / pitch / rhythm in important beats would definitely adds a + point instead of reversing it.

plus this one doesn't have to be applied in the rest of the map, but the more you use it, the better the map (don't forget this map song is from that famous piano-based rhythm game)

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and this occurs in almost, everywhere as well, i dunno if i overlook all the things i written, but i think its worth to mention. combined, i think this is worth to point out to improve your map

keep in mind that i hope to see this in ranked as well, it has a huge potential, you already mapped this in clever way, and i believe you can improve this further

OH btw im a huge fan of the 1/6 notes, they are really flowwy even the trills, so gj on that!

Lokovodo wrote:

Final Symphony

This looks very polished and plays fine, but here are my suggestions.
01:12:733 - add note on key2 I can't hear any sound to map jump there so i would leave it as single
01:13:086 - add note on key4 ^

01:15:557 - add note on key2 ^
01:15:733 (75733|1) - move note on 2 to 1
01:15:910 - add note on key2 ^

02:00:028 - to me I hear a piano note here, idk maybe it's just me. It's hard to hear because of the kick+symbol on previous white tick, but listen and if you do here something there then add a key on 3 I didn't add the note here to emphasizes the main piano sound.

02:07:175 - 02:07:969 - I suggest changing this pattern a bit to be more inward oki

before

after

I think it flows better because of the double stairs before and afterwards

03:14:939 - 03:15:733 - same as before ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I just want to note though when during the last chorus the same pattern comes up I think the oringal pattern works fine so I am not going to suggest you change it at 05:31:881 - 05:32:675 -