gina91189 wrote:

Hi

[Easy]
00:09:522 (1) – I moved this to 00:09:597, blue ticks (or both of them work, whatever, it’s up to you guys) and claps doesn’t fit imo, remove your claps, and add whistles I thought ti should be at the white tick at first, but when testing, i always hit them 20ms+ early. If you playback at 0.25x, you can see that the blue tick work best. Removed the clap and replaced with whistle.
00:11:322 (2) – move this to 00:11:397, remove clap, and add finish Again, blue tick works better, changed hitsound to finish.
01:09:522 (1,2,3) – move to white tick please, such as 01:09:297, 01:09:897, and 01:10:497. ^
01:19:122 (1,2,3) - ^, 01:18:897, 01:19:497, and 01:20:097. ^
01:50:397 (1) – make this longer, which ends at 01:54:747 Blue tick work better, when it's on the red tick the finish feels quite off/late.

[Insane]
-How come this one got 3 red lines … orz 200bpm 1/4 streams is a bit fast, i think, so toned down to 150bpm (75%). Or if you want,i i could just make it a 1/3 200bpm stream instead?
00:09:522 (1,2,3,1) – same as Easy Read Easy
00:11:322 (1) – oh, by the way, this spinner is too short, auto should get at least 2000, but this one doesn’t. Moved to 00:11:097, and same end spot. Auto should get 2000 now.
This break is too long … same as Hinacle. K will map the same part as Normal. Will map the break in Easy as well for consistency purposes.
01:09:522 (3) – move this to 01:09:447 Pretty sure this is on the blue tick, playback at 0.25x and there is nothing on the red.
01:10:122 (3) – move this to 01:10:047 ^
01:50:397 (1,2,3 ……) – I don’t think this stream really fits the song, you should try something else here. Before i map Insane, i went through the song once for some ideas, and when i heard this part, i thought there should definitely be a stream here for Insane. Some alternative are repeating sliders and spinner, but this is an Insane. Nothing else really fits since it just drum rolls/instrument playing really fast here. Of course, I'm up for ideas.

gina91189 wrote:

Hi

[hoLysoup’s Normal]
00:09:522 (1,2,3,4) – same as Easy. clarified
00:26:322 (1) – move this to 00:26:397 actually this is a beat that starts on the 1/3 I've finally realized and fixed it. It actually starts on 00:26:297 and it's dead on with the music.
00:48:597 (3) – extend this by 1 tick no this follows the singing
01:09:222 (2,3,4) – white ticks also fit here (starts at 01:09:297) again, 1/3
01:19:122 (1) - ^, 01:19:197 ^
01:28:722 (1) - ^, 01:28:797 ^
01:50:397 (1) – end this at 01:54:747; also change hitsound to soft-finish, fits better imo. sure
01:56:397 – this green line is useless since you got nothing after the spinner fixed

Broetchen8441 wrote:

Overall: You're sure 'bout mapping that intro-part? Doesn't look that good to me :O I like to follow the vocal, and since the beginning have vocal, i mapped it. Also prefer to have an intro to the beatmap since most people always press the skip button when they can and 20seconds of this song will be unmapped if i remove the intro.
Tags: Please, decide either if it's a visual novel or an eroge, both excludes each other and excludes hentai, so you have to decide what that game actually is, looks like eroge to me, so delete "visual novel" and/or at least "hentai" from the tags. Eroge refers to game that contain h-scenes commonly refer to in the West as hentai. Thus, those two tags. Visual novels refer more to the gameplay which is generally clicking to move text. Also wikipedia listed this in both http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakura_Sak ... l_novel%29. Would probably add bishoujo/galges (cute girls/gal game) to tags as well, but decide against it since very few ranked map does this.

Insane:
Some of those 1/4-doublestacks are... meeeh - but that's just me I guess Generally hate them as well, but she sings like this. Doesn't look good unstacked imo.
01:41:022 (1,2) - try to kind of enlarge the distance between those two, people could think of that as 1/4s Will look at it when re snapping Insane to 1/3 snap.
01:41:622 (4,5) - ^ ^

Hinacle:
Looks fine to me, you can leave it like that xP

Normal:
Looks fine, but well, it's hoLysoup, that guy can map normal-diffs pretty well in my opinion^^

Easy:
Seems fine, but well I'm horrible at easys... overmapping everything myself... blargh... lol, well this is my 2nd Easy, the 1st one was crap, thanks god for guest diffs. Some tips i guess is to work your Easy diff from your Normal, and try to place all the note on white ticks and change whenever possible to sliders, repeating sliders and sometime spinners. After, work a bit on making the sliders look interesting and make the pattern look not boxed and that's it.


~ Stared, hope the little advices on the Insane one did help you

OzzyOzrock wrote:

[Easy]
200BPM... and you're not even using 1.00? I suggest doing that, makes a difference. Maybe even lower. Not fond of slow s.v. for a fast song. Always annoy me when i play an Easy and the s.v is slow when the song feel like it is atleast 2/3x faster, but play testing some 200bpm songs Easy, most were 0.6-1.0sv so... guess i will change it to 1.0sv.
Distance spacing 0.5... lol Will probably use 0.8x/1.0x after new s.v., but 0.5x felt fine to me for old sv. Can't use 0.8x/1.0x for the beginning of course.
01:09:497 (1,2,3) - Placed on 1/3, you have it on 1/4 Done
01:19:122 (1,2,3) - Same here. ^

With new SV you may need to re-map things, but it shouldn't be hard.

[Insane]
Wow, a huge part of this diff sounds terribly off because you use 1/4 lol.
But yes, PLEASE use 1/3, as it's not even rankable like this. I think i fixed everything

A lot of this diff has some bland patterns and sliders, but that's not too bad of a thing... Decide to remap a lot of stuff, should be less bland now.
Oh and 01:50:397 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - No. Suggestions on how to change it?

Needs some work, but good luck~

tutuhaha wrote:

You need Timing - Resnap All Notes Can you list which note are unsnap? The beginning is snap to 1/4 and the rest of the song is to 1/3 and 1/6. Since Timing > Resnap, rensnap the entire song and not specific sections.
Song Title need: See-Saw!! (Short Ver.) http://vgmdb.net/album/9478 the 2nd one on this album, it's written see-saw!! and also in the video around the part where she sing lalala.... Title is written in English so this isn't Japanese converted to romaji.

Easy
AR3 is enough no 4 it is too hard to easy...> < I think it's fine, i think a beginner find it harder when they see 3 notes appear on the screen rather then 1-2 at a time. I remember getting confuse in an Easy because of very low ar and lot of note cluster on the timeline. Low ar doesn't mean easier difficulty.
00:21:597 - (1,2) too hard to easy I think.... It's fine, i'm following the trumpet in this section.
maybe you can use slider in 00:21:597-00:22:197 and 00:22:797-00:23:397
00:26:097 - (4) move there ??
00:28:197 - 00:28:497 one slider no repeat > < lol, follow the music much better with a repeat.
00:38:397 - (X) add whistle? Done
00:45:897 - (x) add whistle? Done
00:49:797 - (x) add circle add clap Done
00:51:597 - (2) add finish Done
00:53:997 - (2) add finish Done
01:00:897 - (X) add clap? Seems to fit sure

Insane

00:04:497 - (X) add circle? and whistle? Nothing is playing here and slider feels better.
00:06:897 - (X) add circle? and whistle? Don't really fits
00:07:047 - (X) add circle? and whistle? ^
01:50:397 - (X) this is insane but i don't like this,too hard hm, finally have an idea, deathstream is now only 13 notes, replace the stream with 3 short spinners, need someone to suggest when to start and end the spinners and hitsound suggestion. The repeating slider at the end of this song will annoy a lot of people for sure, but will keep it for now.


Good lucky~star~

karenying wrote:

I love Chata>///<

General
delete .osb better Done, was planning to add storyboard similar to my 1st beatmap, but they will be diff specific anyways.

Easy
00:53:997 (2) - change finish Changed in tutuhaha's mod
01:13:797 (1) - use 2 circle instead better Done

Insane
01:13:847 (1,2) - move to white line Adjusted in 1/6 beat snap 1 tick before white line, sounds better. Before was too early, white tick is too late.

good luck

dkun wrote:

hello.

this is a mere suggestion
this is something you should fix
this is unrankable

Insane
01:51:697 (1,1,1) - I know this is a weird part to map, but the spinners here hardly make any sense. K changed to something better
00:31:997 (3,4,5,6,7) - I believe if 4 and 7 were spread out, it'd play much better, just judging from the 1/3's and the diff level. Don't understand what you mean, you want me to space this combo out more? What do you mean exactly by 4 and 7? I decide to use 0.75x sv and 1.2 distant snap so that the sliders look better here.
00:41:597 (3,4) - ^ I like it the way it is right now, didn't use 0.75x sv here as i feel it doesn't need it.
00:36:497 (1,2,3,4) - perhaps stack these? Done
00:46:097 (1,2,3,4) - ^ ^
01:04:497 (4) - perhaps move up a grid? Done
01:46:597 (6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - organizing these notes would look and play quite nicer, they just look like they've been placed randomly. Changed to something better

Easy
Very well made! ty

General
Well, this is a fun map. Very well done as well!
Have a star.

• 00:07:197 (1,2) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/128547
  00:09:497 (1,2,3,1) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/128548

• 01:50:397 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - Try a better spacing here? To don't make the flow odd.
  01:51:597 (1,2) - Remove these sliders.
  01:52:397 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Don't really fit the rhythm. Maybe some other pattern?

Leorda wrote:

Hello there

General
* Make sure the kiai time is same on each diff My diff have the same kiai time, it's fine if the guest difficulties aren't the same as we may have different opinions on where to put kiai time.

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Easy
00:09:522 (1,2) - Move 1/3 later, and you should end like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/129528 The intro seems to be in 1/4, timing is correct, as I put it the same way as Insane. This part was changed in a mod.
00:21:597 (1,2,3) - These gap feel weird, fill this with some more object It's following the trumpet quite nicely, don't want to change this.
01:03:597 (1) - The repeating slider is overlapped by hitburst and spinner-osu http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/129529 Also, please don't use a kickslider (kickslider is a slider that having a repeating slider more than one) Kick slider works well here, better than two sliders imo and the slider velocity isn't that fast. And about the overlap, moved this slider slightly up, should be a bit better now.
01:13:797 (3) - New combo Fixed in earlier mod

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Insane
01:13:897 (1) - Move to 01:13:797 Ty for catching this, fixed

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that's all I can find

akrolsmir wrote:

Ambivalent about Chata... let's do this.

Easy:
00:23:997 (3,4) - Make these two identical (pick one and copy+rotate for the other) bottom look better, so use that one and done.
00:31:797 (1,2) - ^, use the top one because it's more symmetrical Done

Insane:
01:19:097 (3,3,3) - Ending these on 1/6ths seems off, try this instead? 1/6 sound better to me when playback in 0.25x and normal speed except for the last slider where she sings the note a little longer than the rest. Another reason is, there will be weirdly placed slider tick on the sliders. Maybe making the sliders end softer will sounds better.

01:23:997 to 01:40:697- Maybe try to marshal some of these into a cohesive pattern? Right now it feels very random Every combo is in a sort of pattern (mainly zig zag), and i overlap a few notes to make it feel more organize, but will try to make the pattern a little bit more noticeable and this part, she is just mainly singing 1/1 except for a few time where she sing a little bit before the white tick so very hard to make a non-boring and comprehensible pattern for this part.

Most of the maps could use better symmetry; check the guide for delicious sliders. Have read this guide, but i just simplify the process a whole lot (use only 1-3 anchor point instead of 3+, not turning off grid snap and making sure each slider is perfectly symmetrical by ctrl-hing and etc.). Main reason for simplifying so much is, i dislike making sliders in general and i feel it is very annoying if you remap to fix sliders that doesn't work for the part that you remap and etc. I've heard about copy and pasting sliders, but i haven't grasp how i can make good use of this. If you want me to change a particular slider, just tell me which one and if possible a screenshot of where to put the anchor points.

Interesting style which matches the tone of the song, I guess. Starred!

Edit: Forgot about AIBat.

AIBat Warnings

These warnings were generated by AIBat.

[All .osu Files]
Timing Sections:
Inconsistency in uninherited (red) timing sections:

- [Easy]
Red timing sections at:
00:02:397, BPM of 200.000
00:21:597, BPM of 200.000

- [Hinacle]
Red timing sections at:
00:02:397, BPM of 200.000

- [hoLysoup's Normal]
Red timing sections at:
00:02:397, BPM of 200.000

- [Insane]
Red timing sections at:
00:02:397, BPM of 200.000
00:21:597, BPM of 200.000

Kiai:
Inconsistency in Kiai Times:

- [Easy] :
Kiai #1: Starts on 01:03:597, ends on 01:23:097.

- [Hinacle] :
Kiai #1: Starts on 01:03:597, ends on 01:23:097.

- [hoLysoup's Normal] :
Kiai #1: Starts on 01:04:797, ends on 01:23:997.

- [Insane] :
Kiai #1: Starts on 01:03:597, ends on 01:23:097.

[Difficulty: Insane]
Snapping:
00:44:297 (6) - Unsnapped slider (end). Fixed

So standardize the red timing sections (I'm not sure if 3/4 is correct but make it all consistent). I guess the differences in Kiai is okay, given the mapping. But make sure to fix that slider at 00:44:297 (6) - in Insane I'm quite sure the beginning is in 1/4 partly because of the notes on the blue tick. They are too early if snap in 1/3, and just a bit too early/too late if snap to 1/6. 1/4 is perfect in this case and two red line is just to say, beginning is 1/4 and the rest is 1/3.

Wiinter wrote:

Ohai

[Easy]
01:05:997 (4) - make this slider symmetrical to 01:04:797 (2)? Making the sliders symmetrical feels boring and linear, so i changed it to like this. Before all the sliders were symmetrically placed.
Uhnn. something else that bugged me here is the fact that the diff may be too hard for beginners, since it goes pretty fast and have some notes on 1/3.. but well, yeah. first is caused due to high bpm and second because it follows the rhythm ._.' soo, yea, dunno. I can agree, it may be hard for beginner, but i feel this work fine for three reasons. Star rating is low enough (1.89). Song is fast, as you said, doesn't make sense to use a low slider velocity just to make it easier. Easy that follow the rhythm feels a lot more polish and fitting than Easy that is just trying to be an Easy. Looking at Astom's Easy guest diff. for my 1st beatmap, i thought it was really nice as it follow the rhythm so well. So, that's why my Easy may be more difficult than some others.
Really well made diff, btw. Tyvm !

[Hinacle]
So... i don't get why this diff was mapped in 1/4 D: the other ones were mapped in 1/3 aand some parts using this snap sounded weird, such as this combo here 01:01:197 (1,2,3,4). So, yeah :v I think hinacle (look at above post) already fixed this, i just didn't upload yet.

[Insane]
00:09:597 (1) - same about Normal Have tested this several time and I'm sure it is on the blue tick in 1/4. Fixed the 1st note that was snapped to 1/3 by accident. Look like holysoup [edit] & hinacle as well snap this part to 1/3,but i think it may be fine since it doesn't affect difficulties with lower od that much compare to Insane which has high od. I'm still quite sure the beginning is in 1/4. Snapping to 1/3 definitely feels too early.
01:53:397 (1,1) - add a break between them so players don't think the map is over? D: Good idea

That's it~ Cool mapset ^^