Mago de Oz - La viuda de O'Brian · forum

Luvdic

Joined July 2009

Topic Starter

Luvdic 2017-04-10T11:12:24+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Tuesday, 31 October 2017 at 8:00:29 PM

Artist: Mago de Oz
Title: La viuda de O'Brian
Tags: CSLM Gero Ilussia
BPM: 174
Filesize: 6339kb
Play Time: 03:09
Difficulties Available:

La Complicada (3.34 stars, 486 notes)
La Dulce Mery (6 stars, 711 notes)
La Dura de CSLM (4.49 stars, 585 notes)
La Intensa de Xanero (5.17 stars, 647 notes)
La Modesta (2.11 stars, 267 notes)
La Promedio (2.45 stars, 384 notes)
La Relajada (1.49 stars, 169 notes)

Download: Mago de Oz - La viuda de O'Brian
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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La Relajada: The Relaxed girl
La Modesta: The Modest girl
La Promedio: The Average girl
La Complicada: The Complicated girl
La Dura: The Tough girl, made by CSLM
La Intensa: The Intense girl, collab between Gero and myself

BG from here: https://zsuzsu12.deviantart.com/art/Red-hair-279184956
BG reference from: https://noukka.deviantart.com/art/On-fire-193028223

It was an accident!
I swear!
Here's the link to the previous map: t/297691

Last edited by Luvdic 2017-11-01T23:53:46+00:00, edited 22 times in total.

Gero

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Joined March 2012

Gero 2017-04-10T11:13:20+00:00

Te detesto.

Aurele

Global Moderator

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Aurele 2017-04-12T03:58:44+00:00

LMAO
u dumb

Luvdic

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Joined July 2009

Topic Starter

Luvdic 2017-04-12T05:27:25+00:00

Wtf? You two are sharing avatars D:

Aurele

Global Moderator

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Joined January 2011

Aurele 2017-04-13T02:04:45+00:00

do we?

MoodyRPG

2,754 posts

Joined August 2010

MoodyRPG 2017-04-15T02:24:02+00:00

La Bipolar Xanero

wow xDD

ZekeyHache

3,316 posts

Joined October 2009

ZekeyHache 2017-04-16T08:58:20+00:00

El Xanero solitario u:

Gonzvlo

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Joined January 2010

Gonzvlo 2017-04-24T07:19:47+00:00

Gabe wrote:
do we?

shipping this, i called it first

ErunamoJAZZ

osu! Alumni

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Joined August 2012

ErunamoJAZZ 2017-04-26T05:24:31+00:00

Hey, go rank this asap m3n

CSLM

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Joined May 2013

CSLM 2017-05-06T21:54:46+00:00

Gero wrote:
Te detesto.

Atsuro

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Joined January 2013

Atsuro 2017-09-01T21:45:22+00:00

Te amo

BOUYAAA

396 posts

Joined July 2010

BOUYAAA 2017-09-09T22:52:59+00:00

Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

As you can see i'm very late. I had little time the last few days, sorry xd

Easy :

01:02:916 (1) - This sliderend is the beginning of a new phrase. In my opinion it's a better idea to map it with an active hitobject with a sliderhead or a circle. I think the rythm you used before works here too : https://puu.sh/xvLkw/387526305e.jpg

La Simpatica

01:40:847 (1) - maybe you could try something with 2/3 instead? I think it'd fit the rythm better here as there are 2 very big sounds : https://puu.sh/xvLD2/f1898b5a1a.jpg

01:55:330 (4,1) - i think these 2 don"t fit very well. 01:56:020 - 01:57:399 - these 2 notes are too strong to be on sliderends i think. They probably should be clickable in some way. 02:01:537 (1) - i have the same issue with this sliderend

La Caprichosa

01:17:399 (1,2,3,4,5) - i'd do something like this : https://puu.sh/xvLX9/8b7c191e30.jpg because vocals are by group of 3. You can hear that 01:18:089 - is slightly stronger than the other 2 (i also think that the sudden usage of 2/3 gaps is a bit misleading)

02:28:433 (3,4,5,6,1) - might be a bit much

03:05:330 (5,6) - 03:08:089 (4,5) - why not 3 notes like here 03:04:640 (2,3,4) -

La Complicada

01:50:502 (1) - i think these are supposed to be 1/4. if you listen at 25% you can clearly hear the last reverse being super early compared to the music. I'm not sure though. If you listen to the whole beat you hear only 5 notes which means this is played as 1/5 notes which is not really possible to map lol

La Dura CSLM

00:01:822 (7,8) - 00:07:399 (6,7) - what you're following is 1/4, has 4 notes and ends on 1/2. This or somethign similar is more appropriate http://puu.sh/xvMC6/edb52d5c27.jpg

01:50:502 - see complicada diff, 1/6 sounds off

02:02:916 (1) - normal whistle sliderslide?

02:50:502 (9) - flow is rather awkward here, it's a series of linear jumps followed by a direction change on slider

La Bipolar Xanero

02:01:537 (1,2,3,4) - i think this is supposed to be 1/3

Overall pretty nice
Good luck!

Lunedill

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Lunedill 2017-09-10T21:58:01+00:00

Esta es al verdadera historia de mery
Ella era un volcán con cuerpo pa'pecar
Sus cabellos rojos eran como el fuego
Donde todos querian arder
Y quemarse hasta el amanecer

rankealo papi xanandra

Gero

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Joined March 2012

Gero 2017-10-16T00:40:04+00:00

CrystilonZ

as requested~

[Bipolar something]

00:40:847 (2,3) - tbh this feels somehow out of place. imo something like this may be better because it rhymes with 00:37:399 (1,2) - and emphasizes the section's end.. somehow You're right, somehow, but there's some sounds at 00:41:077 - so it should be fine to keep it as it is.
02:12:399 (2) - ctrl H this for a straight flow might be better imo. both aesthetics wise and gameplay wise Fixed.
02:14:813 (1,2,3,4) - idk stacking is not the best idea. try something like this. It's better imo and is more consistent with 02:17:399 (3,4,5,6,7) - I think it's fine.
03:06:364 (1,2,1,2,1) - this is really underwhelming relatively speaking xd. should be something equivalent or more intense than the previous pattern. Changed.
03:09:468 (1,2) - imo make these curvy instead of edgy so they transition into 03:09:813 (1) - more nicely. I like the current ones.

good luck~

Bakari

[La Bipolar Xanero]
Please mention that this a collab somewhere, the diffnames keep confusing me more and more, as I look through the editor and don't get to see the actual starrating. Something like commenting on the actual difficulty level of each and every difficulty in mapset somewhere in the creator's word would really help out.

00:39:360 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - shouldn't these be snapped to 1/6. There are a plenty of beats that are snapped off, yet, they use 1/3 or 1/6 in other difficulties. a picture. This goes for the whole part of the difficulty, which I believe to be mapped by Gero.
Note: same goes for the other parts. I am not really sure of why snapping went that way as I hear music snapped to 1/6 and 1/3 and the objects feel somewhat off. Fixed.
02:53:951 (1) - that was pretty much the only slider of that kind in the entire difficulty. That was rathre random than tricky or interesting. I'd try some more simplistic shape. I really like this kind of shapes. so I'd rather to keep it like this.
03:02:140 (4,1) - skins differ, with that in mind, it would be preferable to keep the reverse arrow clearly visible completely, as to ensure that every player will be able to read it.
03:04:640 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - lower the DS on these jumps and increas it on 03:06:364 (1,2,1,2,1) - as these are supported with drumns, unlike the previous one? Basically, it's the very simple scheme: louder music = bigger DS, quiter music = smaller DS. I've changed the next one to make it consistent with the previous jumps.

And that is about it. I am still quite puzzled with snapping as I really don't get the reason why it was this way in the mentioned parts, apart from that it was quite alright. To be completely honest, I've liked the way your styles work together so much I've got a couple of ideas to try in my own maps.

direday

La Bipolar Xanero]

There are tons of unsnapped objects here.

00:31:429 - Circle
00:32:808 - Circle
00:34:533 - Circle
00:35:912 - Circle
00:39:360 - Circle
00:39:705 - Circle
00:40:050 - Circle
00:40:395 - Circle
00:42:808 - Circle
00:45:222 - Circle
00:46:257 - Circle
00:47:291 - Circle
00:47:636 - Circle
00:47:981 - Circle
00:48:326 - Circle
00:50:050 - Circle
00:51:084 - Circle
00:52:808 - Circle
00:54:188 - Circle
01:20:739 - Circle
01:22:464 - Circle
01:22:808 - Circle
01:23:498 - Circle
01:25:222 - Circle
01:25:567 - Circle
01:27:291 - Circle
01:28:326 - Circle
01:29:705 - Circle
01:31:429 - Circle
01:32:808 - Circle
01:33:153 - Circle
01:34:188 - Circle
01:34:533 - Circle
01:35:912 - Circle
01:36:602 - Circle
01:39:015 - Circle
01:39:360 - Circle

I think Bakari already wrote about it so yeah, they should be snapped.

Also what's up with those red timing points in the begining of the song?

00:44:123 (7) - Why hold slider? Music has nothing to make you want to map it like this.
00:53:606 (5) - ^ You should listen it at 25% to notice that there are some sounds that fit with these sliders.

Zallies

[La Bipolar Xanero]

00:38:433 (1,2) - i feel this is a new pattern, you did only make a pattern, copy paste and 180* but this song its a new sound (like i mean the music change and the pattern is still the same af) and i know its emphasis but the flow is bad I don't think so. The flow it's perfectly fine regarding the previous one.
00:41:537 - and this part isnt the same from the other part. well idk you map XD Ugh?
00:46:364 (4) - the last beat was hit-clap, so its important to click this part. dont let the BN modders do the same mods xx Doesn't matter that much.
00:53:606 (5,6) - this is really weird, suddenly click the other circle Check my answer about it above.
01:38:089 (1,2) - too close eh What's wrong with it?
03:01:450 (4,1) - idk is this really good? Why it shouldn't be good?

Halliday

La Bipolar Xanero
Ese estilo curvadito/simetrico de Gero asdfghj

Inconfundible <3 Gracias, cariño ♥.
No encontré nada pero quería decir eso xD

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La Bipolar Xanero

osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
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Countdown: 0
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Title:La viuda de O'Brian
TitleUnicode:La viuda de O'Brian
Artist:Mago de Oz
ArtistUnicode:Mägo de Oz
Creator:Xanandra
Version:La Bipolar Xanero
Source:
Tags:CSLM Gero Ilussia
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Luvdic

2,113 posts

Joined July 2009

Topic Starter

Luvdic 2017-10-17T09:48:58+00:00

BOUYAAA wrote:
Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

As you can see i'm very late. I had little time the last few days, sorry xd

Easy :

01:02:916 (1) - This sliderend is the beginning of a new phrase. In my opinion it's a better idea to map it with an active hitobject with a sliderhead or a circle. I think the rythm you used before works here too : https://puu.sh/xvLkw/387526305e.jpg
Sure, done!

La Simpatica

01:40:847 (1) - maybe you could try something with 2/3 instead? I think it'd fit the rythm better here as there are 2 very big sounds : https://puu.sh/xvLD2/f1898b5a1a.jpg
I prefer the way it is now as I still fail to see why they are wrong

01:55:330 (4,1) - i think these 2 don"t fit very well. 01:56:020 - 01:57:399 - these 2 notes are too strong to be on sliderends i think. They probably should be clickable in some way. 02:01:537 (1) - i have the same issue with this sliderend
I prefer the way it is now as I still fail to see why they are wrong

La Caprichosa

01:17:399 (1,2,3,4,5) - i'd do something like this : https://puu.sh/xvLX9/8b7c191e30.jpg because vocals are by group of 3. You can hear that 01:18:089 - is slightly stronger than the other 2 (i also think that the sudden usage of 2/3 gaps is a bit misleading)
Understandable, but that doesnt really fit the rhythm i am going for at harder levels

02:28:433 (3,4,5,6,1) - might be a bit much
Will wait for more opinions.

03:05:330 (5,6) - 03:08:089 (4,5) - why not 3 notes like here 03:04:640 (2,3,4) -
Added notes!

La Complicada

01:50:502 (1) - i think these are supposed to be 1/4. if you listen at 25% you can clearly hear the last reverse being super early compared to the music. I'm not sure though. If you listen to the whole beat you hear only 5 notes which means this is played as 1/5 notes which is not really possible to map lol
Should be fine, they are not meant to be 100% accurate

La Dura CSLM

00:01:822 (7,8) - 00:07:399 (6,7) - what you're following is 1/4, has 4 notes and ends on 1/2. This or somethign similar is more appropriate http://puu.sh/xvMC6/edb52d5c27.jpg
Will wait for more inputs.

01:50:502 - see complicada diff, 1/6 sounds off

02:02:916 (1) - normal whistle sliderslide?
Added!

02:50:502 (9) - flow is rather awkward here, it's a series of linear jumps followed by a direction change on slider
I dont really see the problem here...

La Bipolar Xanero

02:01:537 (1,2,3,4) - i think this is supposed to be 1/3
Yes! they are! fixed!

Overall pretty nice
Good luck!

Lasse

osu! Alumni

3,644 posts

Joined June 2011

Lasse 2017-10-17T11:21:31+00:00

already modded this in the old thread so just some things:

mery
01:28:089 (1) - nc mistake?
01:49:123 - using 3 note combos might work well to make the 1/3 transition nicer to read https://i.imgur.com/mL28XjS.jpg
will also help to not make people expect 02:58:089 - to be a 1/3 transition since then both will look more different

xanero:
01:20:739 (3) - 01:22:464 (2) - etc. no idea why they are snapped to 1/16 instead of 1/6 like on all other diffs

these should be all

01:20:739 - Circle
01:22:464 - Circle
01:22:808 - Circle
01:23:498 - Circle
01:25:222 - Circle
01:25:567 - Circle
01:27:291 - Circle
01:28:326 - Circle
01:29:705 - Circle
01:31:429 - Circle
01:32:808 - Circle
01:33:153 - Circle
01:34:188 - Circle
01:34:533 - Circle
01:35:912 - Circle
01:36:602 - Circle
01:39:015 - Circle
01:39:360 - Circle

Buzz sliders should have appropriate delay before the next note. 1/8 and 1/16 sliders should be followed by a 1/4 gap

00:44:123 (7) -00:53:606 (5) - remove a repeat from these

cslm
00:21:537 (7) - off-screen
01:49:123 (1,2) - would make this a 1/3 repeat since current transition is really harsh for this difficulty

simpatica
bit higher ar would be nice (~4)
03:04:985 (1,1) - 03:07:744 (1,2) - should both use the samw comboing

regalada
could be ar3
03:06:364 (2,3,1) - really easy to misread for beginners,. try something like https://i.imgur.com/NY5mll6.jpg
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new diff fixes the spread issue, so set looks fine to me now

Gero

4,438 posts

Joined March 2012

Gero 2017-10-18T00:18:02+00:00

I've applied everything. Thanks a lot.

La Bipolar Xanero

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Luvdic

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Topic Starter

Luvdic 2017-10-18T02:22:14+00:00

Lasse wrote:
already modded this in the old thread so just some things:

mery
01:28:089 (1) - nc mistake?
01:49:123 - using 3 note combos might work well to make the 1/3 transition nicer to read https://i.imgur.com/mL28XjS.jpg
will also help to not make people expect 02:58:089 - to be a 1/3 transition since then both will look more different

xanero:
01:20:739 (3) - 01:22:464 (2) - etc. no idea why they are snapped to 1/16 instead of 1/6 like on all other diffs
these should be all
01:20:739 - Circle
01:22:464 - Circle
01:22:808 - Circle
01:23:498 - Circle
01:25:222 - Circle
01:25:567 - Circle
01:27:291 - Circle
01:28:326 - Circle
01:29:705 - Circle
01:31:429 - Circle
01:32:808 - Circle
01:33:153 - Circle
01:34:188 - Circle
01:34:533 - Circle
01:35:912 - Circle
01:36:602 - Circle
01:39:015 - Circle
01:39:360 - Circle
Buzz sliders should have appropriate delay before the next note. 1/8 and 1/16 sliders should be followed by a 1/4 gap
00:44:123 (7) -00:53:606 (5) - remove a repeat from these

cslm
00:21:537 (7) - off-screen
01:49:123 (1,2) - would make this a 1/3 repeat since current transition is really harsh for this difficulty

simpatica
bit higher ar would be nice (~4)
03:04:985 (1,1) - 03:07:744 (1,2) - should both use the samw comboing

regalada
could be ar3
03:06:364 (2,3,1) - really easy to misread for beginners,. try something like https://i.imgur.com/NY5mll6.jpg
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new diff fixes the spread issue, so set looks fine to me now

All suggestions applied!

Thanks so much for the mod!

Lasse

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Lasse 2017-10-18T17:05:35+00:00

bubbled

metadata reference:
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com ... L1162_.jpg
for capitalization: http://www.magodeoz.com/ilussia/

ZekeyHache

3,316 posts

Joined October 2009

ZekeyHache 2017-10-20T02:45:01+00:00

la enburbujada :v

Deberías dejar una descripción de que dificultad es cual en Inglés para que no vengan a quejarse los que no saben ezPaNicH

Luvdic

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Topic Starter

Luvdic 2017-10-20T09:44:58+00:00

ezek wrote:
la enburbujada :v

Deberías dejar una descripción de que dificultad es cual en Inglés para que no vengan a quejarse los que no saben ezPaNicH

Okay ;(

mancuso_JM_

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mancuso_JM_ 2017-10-20T12:44:06+00:00

omg.. Cuando ocurrió esto?

Mucha suerte y seguí mapeando cosas en español jeje

La Dura CSLM.. best name.. *runs*

Luvdic

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Topic Starter

Luvdic 2017-10-20T13:20:41+00:00

mancuso_JM_ wrote:
omg.. Cuando ocurrió esto?

Mucha suerte y seguí mapeando cosas en español jeje

La Dura CSLM.. best name.. *runs*

La dura concha de su lasciva madre?

MoodyRPG

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Joined August 2010

MoodyRPG 2017-10-20T18:47:00+00:00

Porfin !

gay luck (?)

ZekeyHache

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Joined October 2009

ZekeyHache 2017-10-20T19:51:09+00:00

*El artista vende la imagen, por lo menos deberías darle crédito en la descripción~ https://www.deviantart.com/art/Red-hair-279184956
Mira aquí esta la original :O https://noukka.deviantart.com/art/On-fire-193028223

[General]

01:50:502 - No crees que queda mejor unos hitsounds mas bajos en las diffs donde tienes mapeadas esta sección?

[La Regalada]

01:40:847 (1) - Agarras una porción de la barra en la skin default en resoluciones 4:3
03:09:123 (2) - lo mismo

[La Simpática]

01:25:675 (1) - 01:44:985 (2) - 01:47:744 (2) - 02:45:675 (1) - 02:53:606 (2) - 02:56:364 (2) - spacing (compara el spacing de los objetos previos con los objetos siguientes para ver, la distancias son inconsistentes y chicas, pero no igualmente lo suficientemente grandes para notarse)
01:40:847 (1) - el spacing con el slider previo deberia ser 1.1
02:36:709 (4,1) - wat?
02:40:847 (2,3) - Aqui se te paso la mano xp
02:51:192 (1,2,1) - El patrón se miraría mas limpio si estos tres sliders tuvieran una distancia visual igual uwu

[La Complicada]

01:17:744 (2) - 01:18:433 (4) - al parecer has olvidado los hitsounds aquí, recuerda hacer double check después de usar el copiador de hitsounds lul
01:41:364 (3) - este slider ruidoso se siente muy random :c No le encuentro lo que esta siguiendo en la música y pues como dije, es algo ruidoso en esta parte que no suena fuerte
01:44:123 (3) - 01:46:881 (3) - ^
01:42:227 (1,2) - life barrr

[La Dura Cecilio Samuel Lopez Mendoza]

00:05:675 (1,3) - Quizás evitar este overlap?
00:27:744 (9) - nc para consistencia
01:01:192 (2) - por que la distancia es diferente con el objeto previo y el siguiente? Si deseas un jump, lo sugiriera en entre (2) y (3) por que en (3) es donde pega la vocal mas fuerte, no en (2).
01:28:433 (1,2,3,4) - Nada mal aquí, solo quería decirte que me gusto este concepto :3c
01:33:261 (7) - este slider de curva aguda se ve algo aislado (no hay otros como ese alrededor), mejor hazlo como 01:33:606 (8) - para que el diseño se vea mas consistente
02:39:985 (9,1) - Que tal un jump para enfatizar la vocal fuerte en 02:40:158 (1) - ?

[La Bipolar Xanero]
Xanandra

01:03:606 (1,2) - barrita
02:33:951 (3,4) - ^

Gero (plis no te tomara ni 10 segundos responder esto)

03:10:502 - Que te parece quitarle el whistle y hacer soft el sonido del la pura cola del slider? Queda mejor de esa manera imo

[La Dulce Mery]

01:57:169 (9) - En mi humilde opinión, esta nota debería llevar un jump por que suena notablemente mas fuerte que 01:56:709 (7,8) -
02:30:158 (4) - Ctrl+G? siento que fluye mejor de esa manera (si lo haces entonces arregla el siguiente patrón para que el flow continue bien)
03:07:744 (3,4) - Deberías reducir la distancia entre estos dos objetos para que el jump con 03:08:433 (5) - sea mayor y se sienta mas enfatizado y luego lo mismo con 03:08:433 (5,6) - para que el se enfatice mas 03:09:123 (1) -

oh dios no le había puesto atención a la letra x.x
supongo que no es TAN explicita 👀

Gero

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Gero 2017-10-20T22:31:54+00:00

ezek

[La Bipolar Xanero]

Gero (plis no te tomara ni 10 segundos responder esto)

03:10:502 - Que te parece quitarle el whistle y hacer soft el sonido del la pura cola del slider? Queda mejor de esa manera imo Lo cambie a sonido drum ya que encaja mejor.

oh dios no le había puesto atención a la letra x.x
supongo que no es TAN explicita 👀 Y eso que en realidad esta versión esta cortada, por que había algo mas explicito en una parte 👀.

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Atsuro

1,290 posts

Joined January 2013

Atsuro 2017-10-20T22:39:29+00:00

HYPE

Luvdic

2,113 posts

Joined July 2009

Topic Starter

Luvdic 2017-10-20T23:09:50+00:00

ezek wrote:
*El artista vende la imagen, por lo menos deberías darle crédito en la descripción~ https://www.deviantart.com/art/Red-hair-279184956
Mira aquí esta la original :O https://noukka.deviantart.com/art/On-fire-193028223
Agregados!

[General]
01:50:502 - No crees que queda mejor unos hitsounds mas bajos en las diffs donde tienes mapeadas esta sección?
Hecho!

[La Regalada]
01:40:847 (1) - Agarras una porción de la barra en la skin default en resoluciones 4:3
03:09:123 (2) - lo mismo
Listo!

[La Simpática]
01:25:675 (1) - 01:44:985 (2) - 01:47:744 (2) - 02:45:675 (1) - 02:53:606 (2) - 02:56:364 (2) - spacing (compara el spacing de los objetos previos con los objetos siguientes para ver, la distancias son inconsistentes y chicas, pero no igualmente lo suficientemente grandes para notarse)
01:40:847 (1) - el spacing con el slider previo deberia ser 1.1
02:36:709 (4,1) - wat? No vi que tiene de malo D:
02:40:847 (2,3) - Aqui se te paso la mano xp
02:51:192 (1,2,1) - El patrón se miraría mas limpio si estos tres sliders tuvieran una distancia visual igual uwu
Todos listo!

[La Complicada]
01:17:744 (2) - 01:18:433 (4) - al parecer has olvidado los hitsounds aquí, recuerda hacer double check después de usar el copiador de hitsounds lul
01:41:364 (3) - este slider ruidoso se siente muy random :c No le encuentro lo que esta siguiendo en la música y pues como dije, es algo ruidoso en esta parte que no suena fuerte
01:44:123 (3) - 01:46:881 (3) - ^
01:42:227 (1,2) - life barrr
Todos listo!

[La Bipolar Xanero]
Xanandra
01:03:606 (1,2) - barrita
02:33:951 (3,4) - ^
Listo!

[La Dulce Mery]
01:57:169 (9) - En mi humilde opinión, esta nota debería llevar un jump por que suena notablemente mas fuerte que 01:56:709 (7,8) -
Yo lo veo mas como grupo de notas de tres, 01:56:020 (4,5,6) - y 01:56:709 (7,8,9) - por eso estan separados asi ;x
02:30:158 (4) - Ctrl+G? siento que fluye mejor de esa manera (si lo haces entonces arregla el siguiente patrón para que el flow continue bien)
Este flujo es adrede
03:07:744 (3,4) - Deberías reducir la distancia entre estos dos objetos para que el jump con 03:08:433 (5) - sea mayor y se sienta mas enfatizado y luego lo mismo con 03:08:433 (5,6) - para que el se enfatice mas 03:09:123 (1) -
Listo!

oh dios no le había puesto atención a la letra x.x
supongo que no es TAN explicita 👀
Por eso me gusta mago de oz, muchas veces sus letras juegan al borde de lo explicito

~De rodillas me comio la po...~

Gracias!

Los comentarios sobre CSLM afectan un poco mas de lo superficial de su map, por lo que dejare que el mismo responda

CSLM

1,058 posts

Joined May 2013

CSLM 2017-10-21T01:00:41+00:00

Regresó La Dura señores (?

ezek wrote:
[General]
01:50:502 - No crees que queda mejor unos hitsounds mas bajos en las diffs donde tienes mapeadas esta sección?
[La Dura Cecilio Samuel Lopez Mendoza]
00:05:675 (1,3) - Quizás evitar este overlap? Razón? Lo hice a propósito
00:27:744 (9) - nc para consistencia
01:01:192 (2) - por que la distancia es diferente con el objeto previo y el siguiente? Si deseas un jump, lo sugiriera en entre (2) y (3) por que en (3) es donde pega la vocal mas fuerte, no en (2). Originalmente lo hice por los drums, pero veo tu punto. Fix~
01:28:433 (1,2,3,4) - Nada mal aquí, solo quería decirte que me gusto este concepto :3c Lo sé, me la mame aquí :3 (?
01:33:261 (7) - este slider de curva aguda se ve algo aislado (no hay otros como ese alrededor), mejor hazlo como 01:33:606 (8) - para que el diseño se vea mas consistente Variación. Honestamente me gusta más así
02:39:985 (9,1) - Que tal un jump para enfatizar la vocal fuerte en 02:40:158 (1) - ?
oh dios no le había puesto atención a la letra x.x
supongo que no es TAN explicita 👀

Well, y'know how it does work, fix, comments, no
@Xana: Could You please get somebody who can check the timing of my diff? Because I want to be sure that timing is okay before pushing foward. Thanks

El regreso de La Dura

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ZekeyHache

3,316 posts

Joined October 2009

ZekeyHache 2017-10-21T01:54:12+00:00

[La Simpatica]

02:32:571 (2) - spacing (mira que te vas a 1.42 xp)
02:34:640 (1,2) - también te falta arreglar el spacing de estos
Vamos a ver unas partes iguales con spacing diferente:
02:29:813 (2,3) - Entre estas dos notas es 1.3 / 02:31:192 (4,1) - 1.2 / 02:32:571 (2,3) - 1.4 / 02:33:951 (4,1) - 1.3 / 02:36:709 (4,1) - 1.0 / 02:38:089 (2,3) - 1.1

Plis, ahorrame algo de tiempo y revisa tu mismo cada objeto del kiai de esta diff para asegurarte que tienes un spacing consistente, hay uno que otro mas objetos que no siguen el spacing :c

@CSLM
00:27:744 (9) - no pusiste el nc aquí y no me respondiste por que no (mire tu update)

CSLM

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Joined May 2013

CSLM 2017-10-21T02:20:43+00:00

ezek wrote:
@CSLM
00:27:744 (9) - no pusiste el nc aquí y no me respondiste por que no (mire tu update) Ese NC de hecho estaba :v como tu no especificaste si añadir o quitar pense que querias decir que lo quitara, pero en realidad ese NC ya estaba.

@Xana: Añadelo por mi please (o déjalo, la verdad no estoy seguro de como aparece en el update que tienes xD)

ZekeyHache

3,316 posts

Joined October 2009

ZekeyHache 2017-10-21T04:09:41+00:00

CSLM wrote:
ezek wrote:
@CSLM
00:27:744 (9) - no pusiste el nc aquí y no me respondiste por que no (mire tu update) Ese NC de hecho estaba :v como tu no especificaste si añadir o quitar pense que querias decir que lo quitara, pero en realidad ese NC ya estaba.
@Xana: Añadelo por mi please (o déjalo, la verdad no estoy seguro de como aparece en el update que tienes xD)

Al parecer Xanarufenritonandra lo puso antes de que tu le hicieras cambios y por eso la confusión xp

Sieg

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Joined February 2012

Sieg 2017-10-22T09:26:47+00:00

ay ay ay

Luvdic

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Topic Starter

Luvdic 2017-10-23T06:14:17+00:00

ezek wrote:
[La Simpatica]
02:32:571 (2) - spacing (mira que te vas a 1.42 xp)
02:34:640 (1,2) - también te falta arreglar el spacing de estos
Vamos a ver unas partes iguales con spacing diferente:
02:29:813 (2,3) - Entre estas dos notas es 1.3 / 02:31:192 (4,1) - 1.2 / 02:32:571 (2,3) - 1.4 / 02:33:951 (4,1) - 1.3 / 02:36:709 (4,1) - 1.0 / 02:38:089 (2,3) - 1.1
Plis, ahorrame algo de tiempo y revisa tu mismo cada objeto del kiai de esta diff para asegurarte que tienes un spacing consistente, hay uno que otro mas objetos que no siguen el spacing :c

Okok, listo. Toda esta diff tiene esos pequeños errores porque solia tener otro SV, y lo escale todo, y quedaron con muchos errores de DS cuando lo escale (algunos mas grandes que otros)

@CSLM
00:27:744 (9) - no pusiste el nc aquí y no me respondiste por que no (mire tu update)

Y sobre la diff de CSLM, lo que habia hecho fue bajar el volumen de la seccion que ezek habia comentado nada mas :<

ZekeyHache

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Joined October 2009

ZekeyHache 2017-10-23T06:32:58+00:00

me comió la po...

Luvdic

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Luvdic 2017-10-23T06:59:42+00:00

ezek wrote:
me comió la po...

Hermoso <3

Shadowa Pinkman

952 posts

Joined March 2013

Shadowa Pinkman 2017-10-23T07:35:43+00:00

HOOOOOY LA LIBERTAAAAAD
SE HA QUEDAADO DORMIDA Y EN SILENCI-- oh wrong song

Felicidades! <3

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2017-10-23T11:49:40+00:00

I don't think those difficulty names make sense in a spread... at least, they make very little sense in terms of the progression from your English translation. Any native spanish speaker able to draw some meaning out of this?

Adding on:

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/142614

I think you need CSLMVenezuela in tags too since the mapper had ranked a mapset with a previous name.

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Natsu

8,076 posts

Joined September 2012

Natsu 2017-10-23T12:17:04+00:00

Monstrata wrote:
I don't think those difficulty names make sense in a spread... at least, they make very little sense in terms of the progression from your English translation. Any native spanish speaker able to draw some meaning out of this?

It doesn't make sense for a spread I agree, it's like using a custom diff name at every diff

Luvdic

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Luvdic 2017-10-23T12:38:53+00:00

Tried to use a combination of adjectives that describes people and map's difficulty.

The reason why I wanted to use adjectives that describes people is because the whole song is about a "sweet" Mery, more specifically about where did the 'sweet' Mery that he once knew had gone as she has changed so much, where she basically used to give herself to any guy she met, basically making her very promiscuous, although now she still is but her friendly side is gone, which is where the sweetness comes from.

Anyways, I gave a bit of the story to tell you guys a bit about what kind of adjectives I was looking for, so basically:

Regalada = freebie, the difficulty is so easy that it is a free pass
Simpatica = easy going, friendly, the difficulty treats you so nice that you shouldnt be putting up too much work
Caprichosa = conceited, the difficulty is starting to demand a bit more of you
Complicada = complicated, the difficulty is complicated and you should have a bit of trouble dealing with it
Dura = hard, the difficulty is just plain hard
Bipolar = well... bipolar, the difficulty is unpredictable, only the most dedicated will have the patience to deal with it

Yes, they are basically custom diff names, but from what I understand, as long as they show difficulty progression should be okay.

I have also asked other spanish mappers in the past, such as mancuso, dake, kenezz, and others i forgot, and after much discussion, I have finally ended up with these names where they were happy with it. Other names I have tried in the past includes and now discarded: la puta, la facil, la odiada, la juguetona, etc etc

edit: oh I was not aware about his other name, how come he never mentioned me about that. Let me ask him if he wishes to have the tags.

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Natsu

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Natsu 2017-10-23T13:35:14+00:00

the thing is that there is not progression for example why a bipolar is harder than a dura (hard) or a complicada (complicated)? they can work in any order and people will not get it, it's just like adding colors why green should be harder than red?.

Luvdic

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Luvdic 2017-10-23T13:58:03+00:00

Natsu wrote:
the thing is that there is not progression for example why a bipolar is harder than a dura (hard) or a complicada (complicated)? they can work in any order and people will not get it, it's just like adding colors why green should be harder than red?.

I kinda had this convo with Monstrata, but ill try again, some definitions of insane:
- in a state of mind which prevents normal perception, behaviour, or social interaction; seriously mentally ill.
- characterized or caused by madness.
- extremely foolish; irrational.

Using the same logic, how come insane is harder than a hard?

The term insane usually comes from the concepts of madness, crazy, as in too much to handle, etc. Bipolar follows something along the lines of that, having two moods fluctuations that you cannot usually predict much.

And why 'la dura' harder than 'la complicada'? Because from socialization point of view, I imagine a 'dura' as someone that has completely shut themselves from any kind of socialization while a 'complicada' is still possible as long as youre willing to go through their burden.

How come an Extra is harder than an easy? After all, extra just means one additional, no where in its definition has anything to do that describes the difficulty. I mean, sure, you can see it as 'An extra degree of difficulty' or something like that, but that is just stretching its meaning too, and as far as i know, very very few games uses this term, and most would lean more towards 'Extreme'

Natsu

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Natsu 2017-10-23T14:09:28+00:00

still they don't have any clue of progression and under ur explain we can use anything as diff name, about why Insane is harder than hard, you should ask peppy, since those are the default difficulty names.

a compllicated person can be harder to handle than a bipolar and viceversa, the same happens with the rest of concepts, for example a person who is consentida is harder to handle (atleast for me) than a complicated one, that's why I don't agree with your diff names, they can have many interpretations and doesn't bring any kind of escalation, a good example of a spread would be I - II - III or something like walking - running

Luvdic

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Luvdic 2017-10-23T14:29:57+00:00

Okay, I am much more willing to change it if you can suggest me names for all my diffs except the hardest one and are able to fulfill the following:

- All names must fit under a single theme, as in if I am using 'easy, normal, hard, insane' which are the standard for any game, do not mix it with 'beginner, medium, advanced, hyper' or anything like that to fill the 6 difff names.
- No added words such as light or heavy or + or etc.
- No repeating of same difficulty name, even if it is by a different mapper, all my diffs are meant to be played as different levels.
- If I am going to use weird diff names, I might as well stick with mine, so no another, extra, lunatic, etc.
- Only one diff shall begin with E, N, H, I, X or Ex, so if anything I am only willing to accept either an Expert or an Extreme, as a harder difficulty than insane, but not both, and even then, that is really pushing it as I do not deem La Bipolar worthy of Expert or Extreme as it is not, so changing my mind, these diff names won't apply.
- Contains only one word (excluding mappers names).
- Hardest diff must be 'La Dulce Mery'

I - II - III - ... seems to be a good alternative, but that theme doesn't really seem to fit the song imo and would look weird to suddenly have 'La Dulce Mery'

Shinsekai-

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Shinsekai- 2017-10-23T15:39:13+00:00

Monstrata wrote:
I think you need CSLMVenezuela in tags too since the mapper had ranked a mapset with a previous name.

I don't think this is... Necessary at all dude. I mean he ranked a map... IN 2014 ._. Is old

ZekeyHache

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ZekeyHache 2017-10-23T18:40:42+00:00

Here's my suggestion:

La Relajada (the relaxed one)
La Promedio (the average one)
La Complicada (the complicated one)
La Dificil (the hard one)
La Dura (the tough one)
La Bipolar Xanero (you know this one, I think it fits well since it's made by two people, showing sudden notable changes in mapping style, just like sudden emotional changes in a bipolar person, which make the person very hard to understand)
La Dulce Mery (Sweet Mery, the woman the song talks about)

Well, Hard and Tough are redundant words since tough can mean the same as hard (both in english and spanish I think) but the discussion is still open to changes~ We should figure out something good enough at some point.

Luvdic

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Luvdic 2017-10-24T00:34:09+00:00

So far the arguments provided have not really convinced me that regalada and simpatica is causing any problems, I am sure they are quite clear.

If anything is the complicada one which is causing problems (well, she is after all, a complicated girl)

I am more lenient to change that diff name to La Extenuante, resulting in:

La Regalada: she is so easy it is basically a free pass.
La Simpatica: she is easy going, so there should be no problems at all.
La Caprichosa: she is starting to demand more so you should put a bit more effort.
La Extenuante: she is exhausting, so will require even more effort to keep up with her
La Dura: she is a tough one, dealing with her will require all your effort.
La Bipolar: she is unpredictable, requiring you to understand her 100% plus all your effort.

Do you guys agree?

Also, I have sent a pm to CSLM and still waiting for his reply, in any case if he choses not to it should not be a problem as it should be up to the mapper. I am guessing that he wouldn't mind as he worked for this mapset since 3 years ago basically, and all this time he never commented about it, nonetheless I am still waiting for his reply.

Xinnoh

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Xinnoh 2017-10-24T09:56:32+00:00

if you have to write a sentence to explain a difficulty name, then it's not intuitive enough.

it'd be better if you used words that are similar in both languages. For example, Simpatica and Complicada are easy to get.

CSLM

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CSLM 2017-10-24T21:54:04+00:00

Monstrata wrote:
I think you need CSLMVenezuela in tags too since the mapper had ranked a mapset with a previous name.

This is not neccessary, Because 1) That's an really old nickname and 2) There's GDs ranked without that nickname on tags (example: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/347276 , https://osu.ppy.sh/s/293832 )

Luvdic

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Luvdic 2017-10-25T15:03:41+00:00

Sinnoh wrote:
if you have to write a sentence to explain a difficulty name, then it's not intuitive enough.

it'd be better if you used words that are similar in both languages. For example, Simpatica and Complicada are easy to get.

As far as I know, difficulty names does not necessarily have to be intelligible with english language, and no, I do not need to write a whole sentence to explain it as demonstrated on my OT.

I have asked about the difficulty names with other people, and even some of them find it pointless to discuss about this.

Maybe if someone could explain to me why Lunatic is harder than Insane, might be able to convince me much easier about this issue: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/514980 https://osu.ppy.sh/s/113458

Or why extreme is harder than extra? https://osu.ppy.sh/s/462386
One could argue that Extra stands for Extra Hard, but then it only makes it harder than a Hard and not necessarily harder than an Insane, and even then, the Extra could be interpreted as Extra Easy. It could also be because it is following the Touhou difficulty naming format, but then why include Extreme?

I know I am going off-topic, but if someone can give me proper answers to these, then you guys might have given me enough arguments to convince me to the point of using ugly difficulty names set.

And yes, I do believe that my questions is a bit pointless and my arguments given for the questions is basically stretching it out, but then again, so are the arguments given in this discussion as well.

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