2017-04-27 16:24 Asherz007: No I mean for the chat log lol
2017-04-27 16:24 Asherz007: Just so kds doesn't get denied for no reason
2017-04-27 16:24 Mykaterasu: oh right
2017-04-27 16:31 Mykaterasu: so what happened 00:03:973 - here
2017-04-27 16:32 Asherz007: Uh... XD
2017-04-27 16:32 Asherz007: single col 3?
2017-04-27 16:32 Mykaterasu: yeah
2017-04-27 16:32 Mykaterasu: that would be good
2017-04-27 16:32 Mykaterasu: :s
2017-04-27 16:32 Asherz007: Whoops lol
2017-04-27 16:33 Mykaterasu: This diff as a whole has a lot fewer objects than mine
2017-04-27 16:33 Mykaterasu: so it feels empty for me
2017-04-27 16:33 Mykaterasu: but it's still right so that's good
2017-04-27 16:33 Asherz007: ikr
2017-04-27 16:34 Mykaterasu: might be too much tension on lane 3 here 00:08:195 (8195|2) -
2017-04-27 16:35 Mykaterasu: you've got like 3 lane 1,3 chords
2017-04-27 16:35 Mykaterasu: four even
2017-04-27 16:35 Mykaterasu: while this lane 4 LN is happening
2017-04-27 16:36 Mykaterasu: maybe if you find a way to turn one 1,3 chord into a 2,3 chord you could ease the tension in lane 3 by putting more singles in lane 1
2017-04-27 16:36 Asherz007: It's tough this one.... hmm...
2017-04-27 16:36 Mykaterasu: one of these 00:09:529 (9529|0,9529|2,9973|2,9973|0) - preferably
2017-04-27 16:37 Asherz007: I'll try lol
2017-04-27 16:39 Asherz007: I think the only reason col 3 was strained was because of 00:08:862 (8862|1,8973|2,9084|1,9195|2,9306|1) - I'd rather this not be one-handed
2017-04-27 16:39 Mykaterasu: you can still do that by transferring 00:09:306 (9306|1) - to column 1
2017-04-27 16:40 Mykaterasu: makes it pitch relevent with the piano bass note in between the chord riff ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
2017-04-27 16:40 Asherz007: Oh nice idea.
2017-04-27 16:42 Mykaterasu: oh i missed one of the things
2017-04-27 16:42 Mykaterasu: there's a decent amount of tension in the right lanes 00:07:306 (7306|2,7306|3,7473|3,7529|2,7751|2,7751|3,8195|3,8195|2) - here
2017-04-27 16:43 Asherz007: I could just ctrl h a giant section lol
2017-04-27 16:44 Mykaterasu: You don't have to, I'd make 00:07:751 (7751|2,7751|3,7973|1,7973|0) - these chords 2,3 and 1,4
2017-04-27 16:44 Asherz007: Alright not a bad idea
2017-04-27 16:46 Mykaterasu: honestly for 00:17:084 (17084|0,17084|3,17084|1) - this section there really isn't much or anything wrong
2017-04-27 16:46 Mykaterasu: its quite a safe way to map it
2017-04-27 16:46 Mykaterasu: you could maybe give a bit of love to the offbeat phrases
2017-04-27 16:47 Mykaterasu: but it's good
2017-04-27 16:47 Asherz007: Maybe. Throughout the map I was predominantly following vocals.
2017-04-27 16:47 Mykaterasu: yeah exactly
2017-04-27 16:48 Mykaterasu: I still think you should have this rhythm 00:18:862 (18862|1,19084|0,19306|1,19417|0,19640|2,19862|3,20084|2,20195|3,20417|2) - as singles though
2017-04-27 16:48 Mykaterasu: the bass part is pretty interesting in this section
2017-04-27 16:49 Mykaterasu: (megalovania motif, people like it)
2017-04-27 16:50 Asherz007: Not quite understanding what you want to get at.
2017-04-27 16:50 Mykaterasu: o shit I typoed
2017-04-27 16:50 Mykaterasu: I meant throughout
2017-04-27 16:50 Mykaterasu: not though
2017-04-27 16:50 Mykaterasu: like have that bass part running through the whole section
2017-04-27 16:50 Mykaterasu: not just in that one bar
2017-04-27 16:51 Asherz007: Oh I see. That was not intended lol
2017-04-27 16:51 Mykaterasu: its cause the vocals do that same rhythm once or twice
2017-04-27 16:52 Asherz007: I was following everything but the bass there hehe
2017-04-27 16:53 Mykaterasu: not really a fan of the LNs in this 00:33:084 (33084|0) - section
2017-04-27 16:53 Mykaterasu: I don't really know what they're representing
2017-04-27 16:53 Mykaterasu: I can guess the harmonic structure maybe
2017-04-27 16:54 Mykaterasu: but then 00:33:751 (33751|2,34417|3) - nothing changes here chordwise
2017-04-27 16:54 Mykaterasu: i just overall don't think that the standard dotted rhythm is appropriate here
2017-04-27 16:54 Mykaterasu: it's better for 00:34:862 (34862|1,35529|0,36195|3) - this bar
2017-04-27 16:55 Mykaterasu: and I think you kinda played your cards too early for this section
2017-04-27 16:55 Asherz007: I think I would lose myself in explanation lol
2017-04-27 16:55 Mykaterasu: because you have a similar LN structure in the chorus
2017-04-27 16:55 Mykaterasu: except 1 per measure
2017-04-27 16:55 Asherz007: Sort of a half-follow of chord, vocals and strings.
2017-04-27 16:56 Mykaterasu: in terms of movement and strain it feels like this is more important than the chorus
2017-04-27 16:56 Mykaterasu: or at least on an equal footing with it
2017-04-27 16:58 Asherz007: It's an interesting point you raise. It's just the LNs in the chorus follow different things, I guess.
2017-04-27 16:59 Mykaterasu: it is a toughie
2017-04-27 16:59 Mykaterasu: this section is in general way more rhythmically interesting than the chorus
2017-04-27 16:59 Mykaterasu: it's really annoying
2017-04-27 16:59 Asherz007: mhm definitely.
2017-04-27 17:00 Mykaterasu: honestly the only advice I can give to stop that is to tone back the LNs slightly
2017-04-27 17:00 Asherz007: Definitely want to continue LNs through the entire section though, since I feel the music calls for it.
2017-04-27 17:00 Mykaterasu: it's a big impasse
2017-04-27 17:00 Mykaterasu: you'll need time to decide
2017-04-27 17:00 Mykaterasu: also another missing single 00:54:751 - here
2017-04-27 17:00 Asherz007: So... something similar to the MX diff at this point?
2017-04-27 17:01 Asherz007: Whoops lol
2017-04-27 17:01 Mykaterasu: possibly
2017-04-27 17:01 Mykaterasu: have you experimented with shorter LNs in either section?
2017-04-27 17:02 Mykaterasu: perhaps you don't need to have them fully going into each other
2017-04-27 17:02 Asherz007: I think I tried in the chorus but it felt a little cluttered to me
2017-04-27 17:02 Asherz007: I think I ended up focussing on playability for these sections more than anything else.
2017-04-27 17:03 Mykaterasu: alright then
2017-04-27 17:03 Mykaterasu: I recommend a little shuffle to these repeated 00:43:751 (43751|3,43751|2,43751|0,44195|0,44195|2,44195|3) - 3note chords
2017-04-27 17:04 Mykaterasu: cause they're coming up 00:45:529 (45529|3,45529|2,45529|0) - again a measure later
2017-04-27 17:04 Mykaterasu: 00:44:640 (44640|1,44640|3,44640|2) - and this one too I guess
2017-04-27 17:04 Asherz007: ctrl h 00:43:973 (43973|2,44084|1,44195|3,44195|2,44195|0) - ?
2017-04-27 17:04 Mykaterasu: pretty much yeah that would work
2017-04-27 17:05 Asherz007: Not too sure whether there's a problem with the second one.
2017-04-27 17:06 Mykaterasu: well these chords 00:43:751 (43751|0,43751|3,43751|2,44640|2,44640|1,44640|3) - are a part of this 00:45:529 (45529|0,45529|3,45529|2,45640|2,45640|1,45640|3,45862|3,45862|2,45862|0,45973|1,45973|3,45973|2,46195|0,46195|2,46195|3,46306|3,46306|1,46306|2,46529|3,46529|2,46529|0,46640|2,46640|1,46640|3) - pattern
2017-04-27 17:06 Mykaterasu: so I think something has to give to releave the right lane tension
2017-04-27 17:07 Mykaterasu: but it's a very broad balance point
2017-04-27 17:07 Asherz007: What about moving 00:45:084 (45084|3) - ?
2017-04-27 17:08 Mykaterasu: if you moved that to lane 1 then 00:44:862 (44862|2) - this to lane 4 that would probably distribute it nicely
2017-04-27 17:08 Mykaterasu: also what about 00:45:306 - this vocal?
2017-04-27 17:10 Asherz007: I ignored the vocals for a bar to focus on the strings. Might make the following triples a little awkward mapping both
2017-04-27 17:10 Asherz007: You sure about moving that note to lane 4?
2017-04-27 17:11 Mykaterasu: yeah, cause of this note 00:44:417 (44417|2) - here earlier
2017-04-27 17:11 Mykaterasu: it'd be better to have it in the open space at 4
2017-04-27 17:11 Asherz007: Fair enough.
2017-04-27 17:12 Mykaterasu: and if you're not going to put in 00:45:306 - this vocal you might want to make the string LN a two note chord
2017-04-27 17:12 Mykaterasu: gives a sense of finality that a single LN doesn't really have
2017-04-27 17:13 Mykaterasu: then you can get away with not mapping the vocal
2017-04-27 17:13 Asherz007: One normal one LN?
2017-04-27 17:13 Mykaterasu: yeah
2017-04-27 17:13 Mykaterasu: 2,3 would be awesome
2017-04-27 17:14 Asherz007: That's what I was thinking hehe
2017-04-27 17:14 Mykaterasu: since it's vertically symettricaly
2017-04-27 17:14 Mykaterasu: al*
2017-04-27 17:14 Asherz007: mhm
2017-04-27 17:15 Mykaterasu: I don't really like how 00:49:306 (49306|3,49306|2,49417|1) - this is done
2017-04-27 17:15 Mykaterasu: I feel like the single is stronger than the double
2017-04-27 17:16 Asherz007: Uh... I got no explanation for that...
2017-04-27 17:16 Asherz007: Move col 3 note forward 1/4?
2017-04-27 17:16 Mykaterasu: yep
2017-04-27 17:16 Asherz007: Nice catch
2017-04-27 17:17 Mykaterasu: did I already talk about this note 00:54:751 - here
2017-04-27 17:18 Asherz007: Yeah
2017-04-27 17:18 Asherz007: Put one in already
2017-04-27 17:18 Mykaterasu: nice
2017-04-27 17:19 Mykaterasu: The chorus' structure is rhythmically sound but I'm not sure if you're going for pitch relevancy or some other type of pattern
2017-04-27 17:19 Mykaterasu: at first glance it looks like 00:51:306 (51306|3,51306|1) - these chords are support to be precursors to the chords that will contain the next LN 00:51:751 (51751|1,51751|3) - which would be a really fresh structure
2017-04-27 17:20 Mykaterasu: supposed*
2017-04-27 17:20 Mykaterasu: but sometimes it doesn't happen like that 00:52:195 (52195|2,52195|0,52640|0,52640|1) -
2017-04-27 17:31 Mykaterasu: Aaaand we're back?
2017-04-27 17:36 Asherz007: I guess?
2017-04-27 17:36 Mykaterasu: sweet
2017-04-27 17:36 Mykaterasu: banchub can't keep running for long
2017-04-27 17:36 Asherz007: I'm going through a separate irc client though
2017-04-27 17:37 Asherz007: Hope you got the logs for this one
2017-04-27 17:37 Mykaterasu: I save all my chatlogs clientside ingame
2017-04-27 17:37 Mykaterasu: with the standard function
2017-04-27 17:37 Asherz007: Oh awesome
2017-04-27 17:38 Asherz007: I forgot how you do that lol
2017-04-27 17:38 Mykaterasu: its just an option
2017-04-27 17:38 Asherz007: nvw found it
2017-04-27 17:38 Asherz007: I turned it off somehow lol
2017-04-27 17:38 Mykaterasu: its so useful
2017-04-27 17:38 Mykaterasu: I once forgot my input sensitivity
2017-04-27 17:38 Asherz007: Was there anything else that you wanted to say?
2017-04-27 17:38 Mykaterasu: um maybe
2017-04-27 17:39 Mykaterasu: did you see what I said about 00:51:306 (51306|1,51306|3,51751|3,51751|1) - these chords matching
2017-04-27 17:40 Mykaterasu: back again?
2017-04-27 17:41 Asherz007: Bancho absolutely sucks today lol
2017-04-27 17:42 Mykaterasu: If bancho disconnects again I'm going to finish the mod on the forums
2017-04-27 17:42 Asherz007: Fair enough lol
2017-04-27 17:43 Mykaterasu: so yeah if you're going to have chords like 00:51:306 (51306|3,51306|1,51751|1,51751|3) - this where they match
2017-04-27 17:43 Mykaterasu: try to do it as often as you can
2017-04-27 17:43 Mykaterasu: cause if you do stuff like this 00:52:195 (52195|2,52195|0,52640|1,52640|0) - after wards it might make it look random
2017-04-27 17:43 Mykaterasu: you can always have the first section of the chorus as matching 2note chords
2017-04-27 17:44 Mykaterasu: and then the second half can be variations of 2note chords
2017-04-27 17:44 Mykaterasu: that way it doesn't seem quite as random
2017-04-27 17:45 Asherz007: Hmm...
2017-04-27 17:47 Asherz007: Goddammit lol
2017-04-27 17:47 Mykaterasu: yeah I'll just do the last points on the forum
2017-04-27 17:48 Asherz007: Alrighty then. I think I might try for symmetry on that section you highlighted
2017-04-27 17:48 Mykaterasu: sweet
2017-04-27 17:48 Mykaterasu: thanks for the mod exchange
2017-04-27 17:48 Mykaterasu: good luck with your map
2017-04-27 17:48 Asherz007: dw you too