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Dirty Androids - City Never Sleeps [Taiko]

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Lyawi
Updated. :>
Midnaait
Hey, M4M
// = Optional/Suggestion


[General]


Disable Widescreen Support
// HP is a bit too low on the lower diffs, consider making it a bit higher?
// BG coordinates should be 0,-50. I think it looks better that way
[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"BG.jpg",0,-50


[Stefan's Kantan]


00:21:713 - // I'd delete that note to emphasize the next finisher
01:34:185 (168,169,170) - How about making those notes all kats? There are more snares than kicks, and would contrast well with the next cymbal imo

A bit difficult and weird rhythm, but patterns are simple enough to be a Kantan


[Futsuu]


00:04:017 - Change to d, same pitch as 00:04:354 -
00:09:410 - ^
From 00:22:051 to 00:32:837 - I think this part is a bit too dense for a Futsuu, so I'd delete some notes and make some patterns a bit simpler, you could use this as a basic structure for example: http://puu.sh/vRjug/83b85b3fc8.jpg
00:39:916 - // Delete this note and change 00:40:421 - to don? Would suit well for the piano imo
01:12:949 - Delete for a bit more lenghty break, It's a bit too dense again I think
01:18:343 - ^

I'd look a bit into the density, comparing with Kantan is a lot more dense


[Muzukashii]


00:24:579 - I think this extra note kills the flow a bit, consider deleting it
00:46:067 - Delete this kat, triplet is not necessary here imo
00:46:657 (198,199) - Ctrl+G? Snare sounds first and plays better
00:47:837 and 00:48:343 - Invert those triples, piano notes are higher in the first triplet rather than the second
If you did ^^^ change 00:48:680 - to kat

Kiai is a bit difficult, but I'll let it pass lol


[Oni]


00:08:736 - Delete? no piano there
00:40:506 - Move this to 00:40:169 - piano there
00:46:657 - k? snare lol
01:10:421 - kkd triplet there? The guitar solo is really clear there
01:15:815 - ^
01:21:208 - ^
01:23:483 - Delete? Melody stops there
01:36:713 - dkdkd there, drums call it
01:37:303 - Add d? Same reason as above

Good luck :D
Stefan
I may consider deleting 00:21:713 - later but I prefer it for now. Gonna see if more people agree with you. And 01:34:185 (168,169,170) - are ddd to have 01:33:848 (168) - and 01:34:860 (172) - (now changed) as k to be lighter. Thanks for the mod.
Secretpipe
Fldhdkdhdkdb

I love that song! Viele glücke haha
Topic Starter
Lyawi
Not in mood for ranking things at the moment. I won't forget your mod!
Thanks Secretpipe
Topic Starter
Lyawi
It's time to come into it again. I've needed my time.

Stefan, please give me an .osu file as soon as you can, or tell me what minor changes I can change for you so that I can update it soon. I will edit this comment to answer to Midnaait's mod somewhen later.

Edit:

Midnaait wrote:

Hey, M4M
// = Optional/Suggestion


[General]


Disable Widescreen Support :arrow: check o/
// HP is a bit too low on the lower diffs, consider making it a bit higher?
// BG coordinates should be 0,-50. I think it looks better that way
[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"BG.jpg",0,-50

:arrow: I'm not familiar with that, I'll just ask Stefan about it

[Futsuu]


00:04:017 - Change to d, same pitch as 00:04:354 -
00:09:410 - ^ :arrow: oki owo
From 00:22:051 to 00:32:837 - I think this part is a bit too dense for a Futsuu, so I'd delete some notes and make some patterns a bit simpler, you could use this as a basic structure for example: http://puu.sh/vRjug/83b85b3fc8.jpg :arrow: I deleted some notes, I hope that's still not too dense
00:39:916 - // Delete this note and change 00:40:421 - to don? Would suit well for the piano imo :arrow: you're right.
01:12:949 - Delete for a bit more lenghty break, It's a bit too dense again I think
01:18:343 - ^ :arrow: owo

I'd look a bit into the density, comparing with Kantan is a lot more dense[/notice]


[Muzukashii]


00:24:579 - I think this extra note kills the flow a bit, consider deleting it :arrow: mmh ok
00:46:067 - Delete this kat, triplet is not necessary here imo :arrow: it could fit, but I deleted the 2nd one now
00:46:657 (198,199) - Ctrl+G? Snare sounds first and plays better :arrow: great
00:47:837 and 00:48:343 - Invert those triples, piano notes are higher in the first triplet rather than the second :arrow: I really thought the same then.
If you did ^^^ change 00:48:680 - to kat :arrow: okay

Kiai is a bit difficult, but I'll let it pass lol


[Oni]


00:08:736 - Delete? no piano there :arrow: well yeah, and changed 00:08:904 (25) - to d.
00:40:506 - Move this to 00:40:169 - piano there :arrow: 8-)
00:46:657 - k? snare lol
01:10:421 - kkd triplet there? The guitar solo is really clear there
01:15:815 - ^
01:21:208 - ^ :arrow: alright
01:23:483 - Delete? Melody stops there :arrow: oki! I also deleted 01:23:820 (522) -
01:36:713 - dkdkd there, drums call it :arrow: that fits well
01:37:303 - Add d? Same reason as above :arrow: yea

Good luck :D
Sorry that you've been waiting 4 months. Thanks for your great mod =)
Stefan
[Muzukashii]
00:57:275 (236) - und 01:05:534 (271,272) - könnte man entfernen, damit mehr Rest Times eingebracht werden.
Kiai - generell sollte man auch irgendwo eine 3/2 bzw. 1/1 Pause unterbringen, aber idk.. eventuell kann der nächste BN da Vorschläge geben.

[Futsuu]
00:30:140 (92,93,94,95) - kann eventuell so geändert werden: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/4Yw1fHEg.png
00:41:938 (133) - während 00:40:927 (131,132,134,135,136) - einen guten Follow zum Piano haben, finde ich (133) wiederum unpassend und würde sich bieten, zu entfernen.
00:44:466 (139,140,141,142,143,144,145,146) - So von der Musik könnte man auch hier wieder das Piano prioritsieren: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/G96cXDtZ.png Die Note bei 00:46:657 - würde ich dann auch entfernen.
00:47:837 (151,152,153,154,155) - könnte man auch konsistenter gestalten imo: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/24YurPrx.png
00:51:208 - würde ich dann raten zu entfernen, da es eines der schwächeren Töne ist und sich als Pause ermöglicht.
00:53:904 - der dk kd Übergang passt meiner Meinung nach nicht wirklich hierher, dkd k ist besser.
00:54:410 - 01:05:197 - Wie ich schon zuvor gesagt habe, muss die Futsuu - da du die Muzukashii hier nicht einfacher gestalten willst - für diesen Teil gebufft werden. 00:54:410 - 00:59:803 - https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/a1hUz8OL.png und 01:00:477 - 01:05:197 - https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/isEhMdzQ.png (Hitsounds kannst du anpassen, wie es dir gefällt)


derp
Topic Starter
Lyawi

Stefan wrote:

[Muzukashii]
00:57:275 (236) - und 01:05:534 (271,272) - könnte man entfernen, damit mehr Rest Times eingebracht werden. :arrow: ok
Kiai - generell sollte man auch irgendwo eine 3/2 bzw. 1/1 Pause unterbringen, aber idk.. eventuell kann der nächste BN da Vorschläge geben. :arrow: dann warte ich darauf, bevor ich hier noch irgendeinen Unsinn veranstalte

[Futsuu]
00:30:140 (92,93,94,95) - kann eventuell so geändert werden: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/4Yw1fHEg.png :arrow: done, nur habe ich keine Ahnung, ob 00:31:489 (96,97,98,99,100,101) - jetzt so doof ist.
00:41:938 (133) - während 00:40:927 (131,132,134,135,136) - einen guten Follow zum Piano haben, finde ich (133) wiederum unpassend und würde sich bieten, zu entfernen. :arrow: yw der Sound dort war eh langweilig.
00:44:466 (139,140,141,142,143,144,145,146) - So von der Musik könnte man auch hier wieder das Piano prioritsieren: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/G96cXDtZ.png Die Note bei 00:46:657 - würde ich dann auch entfernen. :arrow: :oops: klingt besser, yeah
00:47:837 (151,152,153,154,155) - könnte man auch konsistenter gestalten imo: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/24YurPrx.png :arrow: ok
00:51:208 - würde ich dann raten zu entfernen, da es eines der schwächeren Töne ist und sich als Pause ermöglicht. :arrow: finde den gar nicht so schwach, aber kann man machen
00:53:904 - der dk kd Übergang passt meiner Meinung nach nicht wirklich hierher, dkd k ist besser. :arrow: ? das sieht bei mir alles so aus
00:54:410 - 01:05:197 - Wie ich schon zuvor gesagt habe, muss die Futsuu - da du die Muzukashii hier nicht einfacher gestalten willst - für diesen Teil gebufft werden. 00:54:410 - 00:59:803 - https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/a1hUz8OL.png und 01:00:477 - 01:05:197 - https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/isEhMdzQ.png (Hitsounds kannst du anpassen, wie es dir gefällt) :arrow: "da du die Muzukashii hier nicht einfacher gestalten willst" - ich habe gesagt, dass ich nur nicht genau weiß, wie ich die Muzukashii dort vereinfachen soll und ich nicht direkt auf den Punkt zurückgreifen möchte, die Futsuu zu buffen. Zumal das schon ziemlich heftig ist für eine Futsuu, oder? Zu dem Thema lasse ich es erstmal unverändert.


derp :arrow: dang
Stefan
stop dying
Topic Starter
Lyawi
well.. I was waiting for Taikocracy but I guess I will search for someone else then
Arrival
lowering the volume to 70 for the pre preview point part then putting it to 90 sounds better to me
lower it here 00:54:410 - again and re 90 for the kiai

oni

00:42:949 (239,240,241,242,243) - i'd definetly replace this by kkdkd, the kk start flowing better after a dk kd

01:07:893 - kiai's good although it could have been made a bit more interesting via some pattern differenciation

in muzukashii i really think breaks after a bicolour triplet should be more important.
it's also lacking a bit in breaks, dont hesitate to give like 2/1 breaks to players before main downbeats. if you have troubles putting some, tell me and i'll help you out.

lower diffs seem good except kiai in futsuu which repeats itself to much, diversif your patterning a bit. with kkd's for exemple.
Topic Starter
Lyawi

Arrival wrote:

lowering the volume to 70 for the pre preview point part then putting it to 90 sounds better to me
lower it here 00:54:410 - again and re 90 for the kiai :arrow: I can't hear any difference but you should know what you're talking about, so I'll just change it LOL

oni

00:42:949 (239,240,241,242,243) - i'd definetly replace this by kkdkd, the kk start flowing better after a dk kd :arrow: oki

01:07:893 - kiai's good although it could have been made a bit more interesting via some pattern differenciation :arrow: there's one thing I don't like in the kiai, maybe you know something better for 01:22:725 (511,512,513,514,515,516,517,518,519,520,521,522) - ? Idk but it's weird to play for me (maybe it's just me and I am stupid or something). I like the rest

in muzukashii i really think breaks after a bicolour triplet should be more important.
it's also lacking a bit in breaks, dont hesitate to give like 2/1 breaks to players before main downbeats. if you have troubles putting some, tell me and i'll help you out. :arrow: mmm yeah maybe I need help with that, otherwise I would make it more worse I guess lol

:idea: by the way, in the muzu, do you think I should make 01:26:433 (385) - as a k?

lower diffs seem good except kiai in futsuu which repeats itself to much, diversif your patterning a bit. with kkd's for exemple. :arrow: did it, hope that's fine now owo?
:D
Stefan
👀
Topic Starter
Lyawi
...
Arrival
some more irc modding
gl
_handholding
owo what's this
Topic Starter
Lyawi
in the end I can say that I've done a lot of selfmodding aswell, the time I've been waiting for Arrival was actually good.
Aurele
add stefan thenutritiousguy in the tags :<
Topic Starter
Lyawi

Gabe wrote:

add stefan thenutritiousguy in the tags :<
how did I forgot this.
Aurele
:3c
Arrival
w
Topic Starter
Lyawi
thanks!
_handholding

Kisses wrote:

owo what's this
Nardoxyribonucleic
Hello, I would like to mention some difficulty/spread issues existing in the lower difficulties of the set.

  • [Stefan's Kantan]

    Ranking Criteria wrote:

    If a 1/2 pattern is used, the patterns must stay simplistic and be followed by a rest moment. For songs that follow a swing beat, this limit is 1/3.
  1. From 01:16:994 to 01:29:466 - there is no 3/1 or longer rest moments within this session while combining 1/2 triplets in the pattern chain, which is in fact quite similar to the difficulty of a typical Futsuu. I would suggest rearranging the pattern like this to allow break between every 1/1+1/2 cluster. (cursor at 01:23:062 - )
  • [Futsuu]
  1. From 00:11:264 to 00:29:972 - this part is rather consecutively mapped without 2/1 or longer breaks and the pattern chain is even longer than those in the kiai. I would suggest you to remove notes like 00:16:994 (47,51) - to crack the chain into smaller ones. This would help emphasize the intensity of the music from 00:18:680 to 00:22:051 - as well.
  • [Muzukashii]
  1. From 01:07:893 to 01:38:736 - despite this session being the difficulty spike, it would be better to use 3/2 rests to avoid consecutive mapping, given Futsuu has certain number of 2/1 breaks. You may delete one or two notes like 01:29:803 (401) - to achieve the said purpose.
Stefan
I do agree that the rule says this and that but considering how immense the differences are between Futsuu/Kantan kiai, makin Kantan easier for the sake of the rule... I feel uncomfortable with that. I can say I could remove 01:09:242 (108) - , 01:12:949 (119) - , 01:14:635 (122) - , 01:18:343 (133) - and preferably change 01:28:624 (158) - to 1/1.
Topic Starter
Lyawi
so what's going to happen now? I'm not familiar with this

Arrival said he'll check around soon
Raiden
it seems you want to make some changes, go ahead

in addition, I think the muzu should have at least some 3/2 break in that kiai as well, lots of 1/2+1/4 grouped together :o
but at the same time Oni is super dense in 1/4 albeit simple patterns huuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhh middle way!!!!
Aurele
let me know if u wanna push forward again
Stefan
I will wait for changes regarding Futsuu/Muzukashii since it's currently counterproductive to do any changes for my difficulty rn.
Stefan
💤
Topic Starter
Lyawi

Stefan wrote:

💤
I decided to take some time so that I can do some selfmodding again soon.

selfmodding changes I did:

[Oni]
  1. 00:00:983 (3) - to d
  2. 00:04:017 (12) - to d
  3. 00:06:376 (19) - to d
  4. 00:09:410 (27) - to d
That part had too many kat's imo. Playing this felt like "uh why would you use so many kat's"
  1. 00:15:477 (58,59,60,61) - changed to d k k d instead (already forgot what I had here before)
  2. 00:28:960 (144,145,146) - to ddk (kkd before)
  3. 00:43:202 (242,243) - ctrl+g
  4. 00:45:646 (258) - to d
  5. 00:46:152 (262) - made this to k
[Muzu]
  1. 00:04:017 (11) - to d
  2. 00:09:410 (26) - to d
  3. 00:34:185 (134) - to k because of the sound
[Futsuu]
  1. 00:57:107 (177) - to d because it's pretty much the same sound as 00:56:433 -
now going to the other things~

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

Hello, I would like to mention some difficulty/spread issues existing in the lower difficulties of the set.

  • [Futsuu]
  1. From 00:11:264 to 00:29:972 - this part is rather consecutively mapped without 2/1 or longer breaks and the pattern chain is even longer than those in the kiai. I would suggest you to remove notes like 00:16:994 (47,51) - to crack the chain into smaller ones. This would help emphasize the intensity of the music from 00:18:680 to 00:22:051 - as well. :arrow: okie, I removed those at 00:13:455 - , 00:16:152 - , 00:16:994 - , 00:18:343 - , 00:21:039 - , 00:23:736 - , 00:29:129 -
  • [Muzukashii]
  1. From 01:07:893 to 01:38:736 - despite this session being the difficulty spike, it would be better to use 3/2 rests to avoid consecutive mapping, given Futsuu has certain number of 2/1 breaks. You may delete one or two notes like 01:29:803 (401) - to achieve the said purpose. :arrow: *placeholder*

Raiden wrote:

it seems you want to make some changes, go ahead

in addition, I think the muzu should have at least some 3/2 break in that kiai as well, lots of 1/2+1/4 grouped together :o
but at the same time Oni is super dense in 1/4 albeit simple patterns huuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhh middle way!!!!
*placeholder*

^still need to do changes on the said things I put a *placeholder* on
nyanmi-1828
yey from M4M

sorry for use bad English :o
and can't modding hime hime ;<

General
add tag "konami"? Company that made this game.
Oni
00:03:343 - Delete?
・If you following the piano sound, you must delete this. There is not piano sound.

00:05:365 (13,14,15) - ddk?
・a little same 00:02:837 (6,7,8) - this sound.

00:08:904 - k?
・This sound is higher than before.

00:30:477 - k?
・You placed k at the three before phrase (00:22:388 - 00:25:084 - 00:27:781 - ).
and following clap.

00:30:983 - d?
・There is kick sound.
(00:31:994 - same.)

00:31:742 - Delete?
・I think emphasis this kick sound (00:31:488 (161,162,164) - ) is better than now.

00:38:399 - Delete?
・If change to this, you can make switching phrase and expression piano more strongly than now.
because...the piano is interrupted 00:38:230 - .

00:39:747 - kdkkd?
・I think 00:40:084 - this kdkkd is sounding here.

01:17:500 - k?
・There is clap sound
(and 01:17:837 - d? make difference from 01:17:500 (465,467) - )

01:18:174 - d?
・kick

01:25:758 - k?
・01:25:758 (530,531) - There are stlongly sound... deden den de-n lol

01:30:646 (560,561,562) - kkd?
・Sounds like "kkkkd" at 01:30:477 - .
Muzu
00:21:292 - add d, 00:21:461 - Delete, 00:21:545 - change to d?
・There are many kick sound, should be change to mainly d.
very good map!

good luck! :)

26 stars ★★ :)
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