Strategas wrote:

00:45:917 (3) - polish this shape a bit, can see the gap isn't very even oh
03:23:214 (1) - to 03:45:368 (1) - could make this part more dense by having more 1/1 rhythms instead of 2/1, as this part is pretty intense in the music What's wrong with another part. I want to make speed up part as easier as I can, a lot of 1/1 would be very harder. I already set some 1/1 repeat sliders in places where I really hear sounds different from others, there is no much here.

frukoyurdakul wrote:

There are so many good songs from them out there. Why the same song? Idk, i just want to map.

Edit: Sorry I didn't see this is not even 2 stars. btw, ...what? Map. Maybe.

Net0 wrote:

The Merciful
01:36:477 (1,2,3,4,5) - /01:39:174 (1,2,3,4,5) - /01:41:870 (1,2,3,4,5) - I didn't like this much because this pattern makes it seems like it's a repetitive and continous sound that's happening, however here 01:36:477 (1,2,3,4,5) - you have a drum hit 01:36:477 (1) - followed by a main guitar lead 01:36:814 (2) - that's also mapping some 1/4 sounds followed by a cymbal hit 01:37:151 (3) - that happens here 01:37:151 - , the sound of the tail of 01:37:320 - could be undermapped easily imo to avoid the long 1/2 chain 01:36:477 (1,2,3,4,5) - so instead of https://puu.sh/AhoTj.png you could try this rhythm https://puu.sh/AhoSB.png listened without hitsounds, looks cool (and +0.03* lol)

04:31:485 (5,6) - This can be simplified imo without the reverse on 04:31:485 (5) - to avoid the 1/2 gap used here. This gap wasn't really used anywhere on the diff when the intensity of the song was crazy and I think you should make the 1/1 rhythm idea consistent in the entire diff imo here is a lot of high beats that i want to highlight. actually this pattern very similar with 05:08:900 (1,2,3) but with sound through a 1/2 gap

05:16:990 (1,2,3,4) - This idea should be consistent with 05:08:900 (1,2,3,4) - imo, you should ctrol+g this one 05:18:001 (3) - whoops

05:21:035 (1) - Did you try a 1/2 slider here instead of the circle to make sure the gap here 05:21:035 (1,2) - is 1/1? I know the entire section here 05:21:035 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - isn't using the 1/1 rhythm gap but you need a polarity transition imo to make sure players will get into this rhythm only when the sliders will actually start hmm maybe you're right

Let me know when you reply to this o/

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Lasse wrote:

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tatatat wrote:

some 3/2 or 2/1 breaks within the first half of the map would be nice. its very hard to consistenly play 1/2 rhythm for minutes.. :c or just more breaks in general. For newer players breaks are very important.

Dammond wrote:

03:15:830 - playing with NC, this section is fucked up. NC does wrong accents because you placed the main red bar there 03:14:907 , while the beginning of a measure is a bit further. You have to place a red bar on 03:15:830 to properly handle the NC accents

Gordon123 wrote:

ууу хейтеры налетели uwu
грац o/

100bit wrote:

tatatat wrote:

some 3/2 or 2/1 breaks within the first half of the map would be nice. its very hard to consistenly play 1/2 rhythm for minutes.. :c or just more breaks in general. For newer players breaks are very important.

This part have some moments for breaking your fingers, for example bunch of 2/1 sliders, when you only click on your button and it's all. And 1/2, why? I have 1/1 gaps between almost all objects. Also music on this part doesn't changes so this part mapped on music, not on object placement.
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Dammond wrote:

03:15:830 - playing with NC, this section is fucked up. NC does wrong accents because you placed the main red bar there 03:14:907 , while the beginning of a measure is a bit further. You have to place a red bar on 03:15:830 to properly handle the NC accents

Hihi, strange that you started talking about NC and switch into object placing. NC here is right - each NC for 4/1 beat, because this part is harder than others. And, i put 1/2 repeat in beginning of rhythm because music let to do it. Also i don't get your words about red bars where i have no objects, sorry.
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Gordon123 wrote:

ууу хейтеры налетели uwu
грац o/

Thanks lol!

100bit wrote:

tatatat wrote:

some 3/2 or 2/1 breaks within the first half of the map would be nice. its very hard to consistenly play 1/2 rhythm for minutes.. :c or just more breaks in general. For newer players breaks are very important.

This part have some moments for breaking your fingers, for example bunch of 2/1 sliders, when you only click on your button and it's all. And 1/2, why? I have 1/1 gaps between almost all objects. Also music on this part doesn't changes so this part mapped on music, not on object placement.
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Dammond wrote:

03:15:830 - playing with NC, this section is fucked up. NC does wrong accents because you placed the main red bar there 03:14:907 , while the beginning of a measure is a bit further. You have to place a red bar on 03:15:830 to properly handle the NC accents

Hihi, strange that you started talking about NC and switch into object placing. NC here is right - each NC for 4/1 beat, because this part is harder than others. And, i put 1/2 repeat in beginning of rhythm because music let to do it. Also i don't get your words about red bars where i have no objects, sorry.
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Gordon123 wrote:

ууу хейтеры налетели uwu
грац o/

Thanks lol!

Dammond wrote:

Sorry for misunderstanding.
NC = NightCore, game mode
This is basically a DT map, that means people will use NightCore as well.
By "accents" I mean the extra chrash cymbals that NightCore does every 4 measures. And they are out of place after 03:15:830 -

1. 00:39:850 (1) - Why exactly, in this section, you didn't hitsound anything? I know this is the calmest part and such but there are guitars playing and they can be emphasized with some hitsounds like whistles on every big downbeat. Leaving the way it is now you end up with 16 unhitsounded seconds and that's really bad feedback wise ):

Net0 wrote:

I have to disagree, this section is really calm and low toned, it works with hitnormals only or using a few soft-hitwhistles on the main downbeats, but that's totally up to the mapper, it's mostly a suggestion and not a big issue. You should have waited for the mapper to actually reply saying if he wanted to apply or not before DQing it. :<

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Matthew Rigaud wrote:

The ranking criteria states that all clicked objects must have audible active hit sounds or active hitnormal samples.

Matthew Rigaud wrote:

The ranking criteria states that all clicked objects must have audible active hit sounds or active hitnormal samples.Yeah, the section uses soft-hitnormals, there's no silent hitsounding happening here it's all 70% volume with hitnormals...

Matthew Rigaud wrote:

also, 02:13:893 in this kai section some sliders are missing the clap hitsound

Matthew Rigaud wrote:

Net0 wrote:

I have to disagree, this section is really calm and low toned, it works with hitnormals only or using a few soft-hitwhistles on the main downbeats, but that's totally up to the mapper, it's mostly a suggestion and not a big issue. You should have waited for the mapper to actually reply saying if he wanted to apply or not before DQing it. :<

The ranking criteria states that all clicked objects must have audible active hit sounds or active hitnormal samples. Although, osu!mania maps are exempt from this because of the mode's rhythm construction. (can be found here)

also, 02:13:893 in this kai section some sliders are missing the clap hitsound

1. Added "touhou" to Tags as hitsounder.
2. Added whistles on start of each object in chill part (00:39:850 - 00:56:030 )

tatatat wrote:

Oh yeah, btw my suggestion for more breaks was for NM. its too hard nomod. :/ its supposed to be like a normal difficulty or something right? its too hard.

tatatat wrote:

I only play easy/normals, and it very hard for me.

tatatat wrote:

I've also seen harder normals, but most of them are from like 2011 and earlier

tatatat wrote:

Its not the rhythm density imo, but the strain of aiming.

100bit wrote:

tatatat wrote:

I only play easy/normals, and it very hard for me.

I choose some random normals for compare.
sakuraburst - forest of the spirits - 1/2 for 186bpm have a bit great distance for aiming.
The Super Mario Players feat.Kate Davis - Jump Up, Super Star! (Short ver.) - idk is second diff is normal or advanced, but even in first diff i see some 1/4 which are hard to play for some novices.
Ocelot - KAEDE (idk really how it was ranked because unplayable, but anyway) - i choose hard because it's 2* too, here is high sv for reading; also Normal+ have cs7, which is also unreadable for novices.
Ok, if examples above was complicated, looks on some just-normal diffs - Draw the Emotional - Just follow time, Saosin - Let Go Control, succducc - me & u (one of playable diff in this set) - most of them have a lot of 1/2 and hard-for-reading 3/2 gaps.
All of those maps are 2017-2018.

tatatat wrote:

I've also seen harder normals, but most of them are from like 2011 and earlier

Stop to play 2011 maps, here is 2018 now.

tatatat wrote:

Its not the rhythm density imo, but the strain of aiming.

About what aiming you're saying, if easy/normals in 99% maps have constant distance snap, and right click on random note depends only on your reading and auditory (mainly) skills.

Karoo13 wrote:

there are 2 spots I thought were too hard, not because the execution is hard but because it didn't meet my expectations:

03:20:445 (2,3) - this slider does not flow smoothly into the other one, while the rest of the combo does. I actually missed it because i expected to click about 96,224 instead of 88,296. I would make the tightly curving slider less tight and maybe slightly slower so that it can flow smoothly. 96:224 is here btw, anyway it's very slight flow change that you can see in almost full start of highbpm part, it's ok actually and playable

03:28:291 (2) - I got a 100 here for obvious reasons. I would do a slider from the red tick before to the red tick after, since sliders don't penalize bad acc, and those sounds are so much more prominent. I get that it may be hard to convey the break of white tick rhythm, but if you have heard the song before, it is almost guaranteed that you will click this object early. coolStoryBob, teach me how to make 3/2 gap in normal for highbpm; if you can read jumps in this part, reading of this note should'nt be hard for you
it's like you say "you skip note here and here and in 90% of track because it's hard track for normal-mapping" but generally it's not and main of this diff is playability, if i set a lot of 1/2 and 1/4 notes it may be insane, not lower but maybe higher