This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Monday, March 6, 2017 at 10:35:30 AM

Artist: Tomita Miyu, Onishi Saori, Ohzora Naomi, Hanazawa Kana
Title: Gabriel Drop Kick
Source: ガヴリールドロップアウト
Tags: dropout gabdro dropkick ガヴドロ opening full size tenma gabriel white 天真・ガヴリール・ホワイト tsukinose vignette april 月乃瀬・ヴィネット・エイプリル vigne ヴィーネ kurumizawa satanichia mcdowell 胡桃沢・サタニキア・マクドウェル satania サターニャ shiraha raphiel ainsworth 白羽・ラフィエル・エインズワース
BPM: 168
Filesize: 12744kb
Play Time: 03:25
Difficulties Available:

1. Angel? (5.64 stars, 918 notes)

Download: Tomita Miyu, Onishi Saori, Ohzora Naomi, Hanazawa Kana - Gabriel Drop Kick
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General
Settings and timings fit the song, maybe AR is a bit lower than ranked maps standard nowadays, but that is fine.

Patterns
00:11:483 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - and 02:42:911 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - have similar timing and when played feel like the same, I would recommend changing one of those a bit so it doesn't feel like repetition.
00:33:269 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - This part is by music divided into a "dialogue" between two personalities, I think mapping differently each one would be a nice idea, for example the "nicer" one would be have more natural flow and the "more devil" one would have some harder to play patterns.
00:47:555 (1,2,3) - Here I think should be a burst, although you might have missed that intentionaly
00:52:197 (1,2) - Same as ^.
00:58:983 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - This part feels a bit undone. Triangular pattern fits the music there imo, but the music is escalating and you don't follow that. Spacing diversity might fix this issue. This appears also here 02:10:410 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - and here 02:56:126 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - where you diversed the spacing a bit and it fits the song way more.
01:06:125 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - This looks weird, when the first pattern is different but the other two are basically the same. Here you did a better job 01:11:839 (1,2,1,2,1,2) -
01:31:483 (1,2) - I would rotate these by the same ratio as 01:30:769 (1,2,1,2) - are rotated.
01:38:447 (2,3) - I think 1/2 slider fits the music better there.
01:40:054 (3,4) - Same here ^.
02:06:660 (6) - I would recommend ctrl+G and 180° rotation with the sliderstart staying at the same position.
02:21:304 (2,1) - This is a nice pattern from the mapper's point of view, but it is hard to play if you don't already know it, repeats 02:27:018 (2,1) - and 02:34:161 (2,1) - and 02:39:876 (2,1) -
02:33:268 (1) - Here I think you should place a 3/4 slider with a reverse arrow, so that it's 3/2 of beat long. I know that there are similar pattern later and sooner, but this one feels empty for me compared to the other ones.
03:25:053 (3) - This isn't a problem, but you could add a spinner after this final circle for the duration of the sound. I feel like 2/1 long spinner would make that.

Overall opinion
This map was fun to play, but in some parts I felt like there could have been done more work. I think this might be a really good map if more work was implemented into it. I wish you good luck with further progress!

kolgar wrote:

General
Settings and timings fit the song, maybe AR is a bit lower than ranked maps standard nowadays, but that is fine.

Patterns
00:11:483 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - and 02:42:911 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - have similar timing and when played feel like the same, I would recommend changing one of those a bit so it doesn't feel like repetition. consistency
00:33:269 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - This part is by music divided into a "dialogue" between two personalities, I think mapping differently each one would be a nice idea, for example the "nicer" one would be have more natural flow and the "more devil" one would have some harder to play patterns. it is, i used sharp sliders for the devils and round sliders for angels
00:47:555 (1,2,3) - Here I think should be a burst, although you might have missed that intentionaly intentional
00:52:197 (1,2) - Same as ^. ^
00:58:983 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - This part feels a bit undone. Triangular pattern fits the music there imo, but the music is escalating and you don't follow that. Spacing diversity might fix this issue. This appears also here 02:10:410 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - and here 02:56:126 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - where you diversed the spacing a bit and it fits the song way more. ye lowered the ds on the 1st patterns
01:06:125 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - This looks weird, when the first pattern is different but the other two are basically the same. Here you did a better job 01:11:839 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - fix'd
01:31:483 (1,2) - I would rotate these by the same ratio as 01:30:769 (1,2,1,2) - are rotated. intentional, the 2nd one is just ctrl+h'ed
01:38:447 (2,3) - I think 1/2 slider fits the music better there. nah
01:40:054 (3,4) - Same here ^. nah
02:06:660 (6) - I would recommend ctrl+G and 180° rotation with the sliderstart staying at the same position. i don't like that but did something else
02:21:304 (2,1) - This is a nice pattern from the mapper's point of view, but it is hard to play if you don't already know it, repeats 02:27:018 (2,1) - and 02:34:161 (2,1) - and 02:39:876 (2,1) - just deal with it :>
02:33:268 (1) - Here I think you should place a 3/4 slider with a reverse arrow, so that it's 3/2 of beat long. I know that there are similar pattern later and sooner, but this one feels empty for me compared to the other ones. did something
03:25:053 (3) - This isn't a problem, but you could add a spinner after this final circle for the duration of the sound. I feel like 2/1 long spinner would make that. fuk spinners

Overall opinion
This map was fun to play, but in some parts I felt like there could have been done more work. I think this might be a really good map if more work was implemented into it. I wish you good luck with further progress!

i focus on consistency mainly and if the map is repetitve then some patterns will most likely be repetitve

If you want your measures right I think this fixes it so you aren't randomly resetting it. It should also reduce the timing drift.

A few things here. The weird timing section is pretty clearly compound time. Simply switching to 336bpm 1/1 will put each vocal on a downbeat. The question then becomes whether it is 3/4 or 6/4.

01:02:732 (1) - This definitely sounds like a downbeat
01:02:197 (1) - Likewise so does this

Thus it seems to be 3/4 in this section. Furthermore, this means there are a total of 10 measures in this section, or 8 measures + 2 measure transition which is fairly common for sections that have a transition tacked on at the end.

Finally, we end up with 3 less red lines which means 3 less measure resets which means a lot less roundoff error (editor rounds snapping to nearest millisecond). The end result is that, by the end of the map, everything is late by 5ms. In my opinion, the ending sounded more in time than the beginning before anything was changed up so I went through and resnapped the green lines and then shifted everything forward 5ms to fix timing.

chainpullz wrote:

If you want your measures right I think this fixes it so you aren't randomly resetting it. It should also reduce the timing drift.

Timing > Resnap All Notes, then resnap 1st note manually

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A few things here. The weird timing section is pretty clearly compound time. Simply switching to 336bpm 1/1 will put each vocal on a downbeat. The question then becomes whether it is 3/4 or 6/4.

01:02:732 (1) - This definitely sounds like a downbeat
01:02:197 (1) - Likewise so does this

Thus it seems to be 3/4 in this section. Furthermore, this means there are a total of 10 measures in this section, or 8 measures + 2 measure transition which is fairly common for sections that have a transition tacked on at the end.

Finally, we end up with 3 less red lines which means 3 less measure resets which means a lot less roundoff error (editor rounds snapping to nearest millisecond). The end result is that, by the end of the map, everything is late by 5ms. In my opinion, the ending sounded more in time than the beginning before anything was changed up so I went through and resnapped the green lines and then shifted everything forward 5ms to fix timing.

blame doormat

EDIT: maybe, i don't really like doubling the bpm just for the sake of getting all the snares into the metronome, because that's not what this timing is for and rather stick with what is already working

Oh, I found a minor mistake (edited it) in the timing I posted. Had conflicting volume lines on a red line and green line (50%->60%).

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