xXSupanoobXx wrote:

If we were to do that, the first step would be to identify the multi accounts which were created just to be in the rankings. It will be a very difficult and painful job, because that'd mean having to check every single multi-account out there in the world.

However much I support this notion, it's hard to see this fall through.

Ibuki Suika wrote:

Plz make a clear concept to "multi accounts"

Shael wrote:

Ibuki Suika wrote:

Plz make a clear concept to "multi accounts"

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/13223

(ONLY EXAMPLE NOW)

I could count about 10 people who are taking space as multi account or multiple account and take 2 spots

peppy wrote:

You are all being a bit immature here. Multi-accounting is not "cheating". That said, there is already an automated system in place to detect these accounts, but there is no simple way of taking action. If I was to ban all multis today, I would receive thousands of emails in 10s of langauges that I don't speak. Following them up would result in reasons like "they are my sibling" (which may or may not be true), "I can't read english so didn't know the rule" (which I can't argue) etc.

How about you think a bit from both sides of the argument before posting?

Bottom line: I do care but I am still figuring the best way to handle the situation. For the time being multi accounting is frowned upon (and strictly checked and forbidden in tournaments etc.) but not banned.

Neruell wrote:

peppy wrote:

You are all being a bit immature here. Multi-accounting is not "cheating". That said, there is already an automated system in place to detect these accounts, but there is no simple way of taking action. If I was to ban all multis today, I would receive thousands of emails in 10s of langauges that I don't speak. Following them up would result in reasons like "they are my sibling" (which may or may not be true), "I can't read english so didn't know the rule" (which I can't argue) etc.

How about you think a bit from both sides of the argument before posting?

Bottom line: I do care but I am still figuring the best way to handle the situation. For the time being multi accounting is frowned upon (and strictly checked and forbidden in tournaments etc.) but not banned.

I took this from an other topic about multi-accounts that was made about a month ago.

TKiller wrote:

Don't you see that that would arise a shitshtorm of a comparable size as if all multis were simply deleted?

Neruell wrote:

I doubt that this problem will be solved in the near future but I am sure people who are responsible for that try their best to solve it and unless someone really has a concrete plan of how to solve this problem once and for all people shouldn't make such topics.

NeverDie wrote:

Why don't you stop sucking so you can beat the scores. If you had the skill in the first place to score top 40 easily, I'm sure you wouldn't be here complaining. Consider it a blessing since we don't have to deal with cheaters. At least they're legit scores.

peppy wrote:

Bottom line: I do care but I am still figuring the best way to handle the situation. For the time being multi accounting is frowned upon (and strictly checked and forbidden in tournaments etc.) but not banned.

Shael wrote:

I think everyone would agree with me when I say that most songs are domniated by asian multi accounts and it's always getting harder for us to get a decent rating at some songs

KRZY wrote:

Also,

Shael wrote:

I think everyone would agree with me when I say that most songs are domniated by asian multi accounts and it's always getting harder for us to get a decent rating at some songs

This hurts.

KRZY wrote:

peppy wrote:

Bottom line: I do care but I am still figuring the best way to handle the situation. For the time being multi accounting is frowned upon (and strictly checked and forbidden in tournaments etc.) but not banned.

The bottom line indeed. Don't wanna criticize you for making such a post, but perhaps you should have done your research

Also,

Shael wrote:

I think everyone would agree with me when I say that most songs are domniated by asian multi accounts and it's always getting harder for us to get a decent rating at some songs

This hurts.

Shael wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/13223

(ONLY EXAMPLE NOW)

I could count about 10 people who are taking space as multi account or multiple account and take 2 spots

Krzysiek wrote:

Nothing can be done about it. I'd like to see more competetive playing as suggested by enhancing multiplayer mode.

Regarding "dem Asians" x-D...

Total: 792,245 players.

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/countryranking
Asian countries players = 560,099 ~= 70% of whole players.

Yeah, it's more likely to see Asian multiaccount I guess ^^.

intermu wrote:

Krzysiek wrote:

Nothing can be done about it. I'd like to see more competetive playing as suggested by enhancing multiplayer mode.

Regarding "dem Asians" x-D...

Total: 792,245 players.

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/countryranking
Asian countries players = 560,099 ~= 70% of whole players.

Yeah, it's more likely to see Asian multiaccount I guess ^^.

Well, here we go.

All the WAAH WAAH ASIANS thing do irk me sometimes.

top 10:



How many non-Asians compared to Asians? I don't like how because the majority doesn't speak English you find the audacity to lump us in. What about, you know, multi accounts that do not originate from Asia?

Oh wait, nope, since they're not taking up the scoreboard they're fine.

Krzysiek wrote:

1. Multiaccounts ARE troublesome.
2. There's no clear way to distinct multiaccount.
3. I just provided statistic data so don't shoot that fireball in this direction lol x-D.
4. Some experiences from CtB guy: I've known only one multiacc dude who was going for my #1s and he was South Korean.
5. One person from point 4 is not enough to provide any meaningful summary.

Pure facts -> let's use them.

intermu wrote:

But you're making the topic without any way to implement the "clearing of scores". No way to identify which ones are classified as multi. This is like "Does anyone else agree multi accounts taking up scoreboard accounts suck?"

Yes, the most of us probably do think the same way, but you know, if you're the one shouting out first, you should probably have the courage to actually point out some clear, tangible examples of what constitute a multi account and how do you think we should deal with it, because that actually generates discussion rather than "Yeah bro, I don't like 'em."

As things stand, you look like you're just whining and going "Man, if there were no multi accounts things would be so nice." without any thought into it whatsoever, and I don't think we need a topic for whining.

Shael wrote:

intermu wrote:

But you're making the topic without any way to implement the "clearing of scores". No way to identify which ones are classified as multi. This is like "Does anyone else agree multi accounts taking up scoreboard accounts suck?"

Yes, the most of us probably do think the same way, but you know, if you're the one shouting out first, you should probably have the courage to actually point out some clear, tangible examples of what constitute a multi account and how do you think we should deal with it, because that actually generates discussion rather than "Yeah bro, I don't like 'em."

As things stand, you look like you're just whining and going "Man, if there were no multi accounts things would be so nice." without any thought into it whatsoever, and I don't think we need a topic for whining.

Like I already said, I don't want to point who is a multi or whoever is the original user, we don't need that stuff because most of it is plain obvious.

Yes, maybe it sounds like I'm whining, but my point stands still, and the thread was only for the purpose of finding a solution TOGETHER where everyone would be ok with, not to point fingers to eachother and start a flame war

And if you're reading the title, there's my idea already.

Wishy22 wrote:

Thing is sometimes a random account appears and from the first day it starts getting top scores on Insane maps, which should mean instant... ban/clear scores/whatever since, again, you sign that's your first account when it isn't. Thing is that seriously, I don't want to engage into a flamewars but the whole banning/control system is a joke, this guy has his scores already and it's DAMN OBVIOUS it's a cheater, he played for a day and got impossible plays, like seriously it's so damn easy to record what you're doing and then accelerate it x1.5 to do ANY DT you want (well I don't know how to do it, but I guess there's software for that and it's doable), looks like that's legal and it's only a matter of time until more people starts doing it more frenquently (if they're not already), same with Flashlight since, even when I respect players like Lybydose or Azura since they get some epic FL scores, some others just go out of the blue and get many FL scores per day like it's nothing. (And it isn't like they play 4 maps a day, 3 hs each)

The whole thing is damn hard to control, from the point the community is too big for only peppy or maybe him and 2 guys checking out on every report (and I'm sure a 95% of them are QQ from noobs who lost their #1), and the game is so damn easy to cheat and, in most cases, like FL ones, you can't really be 100% certain the guy is cheating, which by peppy standars means no ban.

peppy wrote:

You are all being a bit immature here. Multi-accounting is not "cheating". That said, there is already an automated system in place to detect these accounts, but there is no simple way of taking action. If I was to ban all multis today, I would receive thousands of emails in 10s of langauges that I don't speak. Following them up would result in reasons like "they are my sibling" (which may or may not be true), "I can't read english so didn't know the rule" (which I can't argue) etc.

How about you think a bit from both sides of the argument before posting?

Bottom line: I do care but I am still figuring the best way to handle the situation. For the time being multi accounting is frowned upon (and strictly checked and forbidden in tournaments etc.) but not banned.

Cheer-no wrote:

The staff team already knows which accounts are multis (unless they were clever enough to use a proxy or something).

From the thread that JesusYamato linked:

peppy wrote:

You are all being a bit immature here. Multi-accounting is not "cheating". That said, there is already an automated system in place to detect these accounts, but there is no simple way of taking action. If I was to ban all multis today, I would receive thousands of emails in 10s of langauges that I don't speak. Following them up would result in reasons like "they are my sibling" (which may or may not be true), "I can't read english so didn't know the rule" (which I can't argue) etc.

How about you think a bit from both sides of the argument before posting?

Bottom line: I do care but I am still figuring the best way to handle the situation. For the time being multi accounting is frowned upon (and strictly checked and forbidden in tournaments etc.) but not banned.

JesusYamato wrote:

Yea they can detect multi account with voodoo magics (mac addr, computer name, ip, machine guid, msn convo etc..)

Neruell wrote:

JesusYamato wrote:

Yea they can detect multi account with voodoo magics (mac addr, computer name, ip, machine guid, msn convo etc..)

2 Players on 1 pc :p not everyone is rich for personal computer xD

Ijah wrote:

Neruell wrote:

2 Players on 1 pc :p not everyone is rich for personal computer xD

In that instance obviously the playstyle would differ between the two.

JesusYamato wrote:

there should be a filter to show friend score on scoreboard only.