blissfulyoshi wrote:
A bubble is an icon that says a map is ready to be qualified. This does 2 things, signal another BN to check the work and scares away random modders from checking the map in fear of popping it. However, for various understandable reasons, BNs don't check various bubbled maps, so bubbles stay there for an eternity.
Every BN has their own definition of "quality", that means that they all have their own standards of what they think is good or bad. Back then most maps were really simple and didn't try out something special (sliderart, or just concepts in general) and the quality threshold was lower in general, so it was not too hard to catch up the quality requirement to map something that can be ranked. Nowadays we have a way higher quality requirement in general and not only that, people are trying out a lot of stuff so they obviously can't satisfy every BN with their creation.
And like Battle already said, pretty much every map that is bubbled right now isn't really interesting (for me, obviously) so I don't check them, as we are not supposed to nominate everything that is just fine for ranked but rather nominate maps we really like.
Gabe wrote:
Same goes for beatmaps that were sitting in a bubbled state for months. Is it because the quality criteria is set too high?
Because the mapper doesn't approach every mapper they could approach and don't put enough effort into trying to rank their work. And yeah, the quality criteria and the BNs opinion play a really big role as well, as I already mentioned above.
Living Flower wrote:
or maybe the bn's got a real life and no time to check all maps? /runs
Quite a lot of people indeed think that BNs are modding machines that don't do anything else, but honestly we also want to map stuff, to play osu ourselves or play other games. Not to forget that there's also a real life. And reading everywhere how lazy or shit the ranking system is because of the "lazy" BNs can be really demotivating, but people don't think about how the BNs feel when reading that stuff and then wonder why they can't their map ranked...
Endaris wrote:
In the end there's just no other way of getting a BN look at your map than spamming them which actually sucks for the BNs just as much as for the people needing or believing to need one.
=> You either need to be active and stay on their toes or you need personal connections which seems to be the staff-approved way right now.
That's not completely true. While it's correct for some BNs, some others don't care about the maps of their friends if it's not something special. If people would put a lot more effort into their maps (like trying to make it really unique with a cool concept or something instead of just following the meta blatantly) or at least get less GDs because most of the time the mapper only makes like 20% of the set or something, things probably would be different now.
But anyway, why do you need your map to ranked as soon as possible? Why don't you try to improve it even more by self-modding, looking at other good maps to see if there's anything special you could implement in your map? It's just sad to see that even completely new mappers think that their map is ready for the ranked section after only two months and not even 3 pages of mods in their beatmaps thread. I don't know how long a new mapper needs to rank a map now if they tryhard really hard on it (instead of just giving up after two months, which seems to be the case sometimes as I've seen), so it's hard to judge if it got worse or not.
Living Flower wrote:
It but that's what I'm hearing. I've got a ctb map ready for bubble (a Qat helped me and told me it's good enough for qualified if I find a BN who bubbles it) and after 4 months I still haven't found one, because they saying they got a real life, there are more other maps, I'm not "experienced enough", and the same goes for even simple mods.
Just because one guy told you that it might be ready for ranked it doesn't mean it needs to be there as soon as possible. Not only that, like I already mentioned everyone has a different definition of quality, and if you still struggle getting it ranked after whole 4 months, then you either don't try hard enough or the map is simply not good enough to convince a BN to nominate it. Also, if you are trying to get into the community for already 6 years and still didn't manage to rank a map, shouldn't you be aware that it isn't the fault of the game / community / system or whatever but actually your fault by probably not trying hard enough? Other people only take half a year or maybe a year, you can't tell us that they just were lucky because a lot of people manage to do it in this timeframe.
And like blussfulyoshi also said, the mapping community is really huge and we aren't even that many BNs to work up all that stuff, let alone that a good amount of people keep ranting everywhere which can also be a reason to not nominate a map (because seriously, who wants to help a guy who doesn't do anything else than flaming people?).
And after all, please don't judge BNs at all if you haven't been a BN, because your perspective on it will change drastically after knowing how it actually is to be one.