1. Merciless Oni (7,19 stars, 3467 notes)

1. 00:07:490 (7,8,9,10) - Dakika 1 gol 1...Şurayı tekrar dinle bence,buradaki ses daha farklı.
2. 00:11:534 (37) - 1/3 patternleri finisher ile başlatma gözünü seveyim skfjdaskşjf
3. 00:12:883 (45) - Burada hiç güçlü bir ses duymadım şahsen
4. 00:14:906 (65) - Bence sen intro parttaki güçlü sesleri gözden geçirip ona göre düzelt
5. 00:54:007 (1,1) - İkinci spinnerı kaldırıp birinciyi uzat STD map yapmıyorsun sonuçta,garip gözüküyor
6. 00:59:989 - Burada diğerleri gibi ses var ama nota yok,elini korkak alıştırma zor olacak diye.Deathmetal mapliyorsun sonuçta lsdjfdkşasj
7. 01:09:426 - ^
8. 01:14:904 (229) - Burada güçlü ses yok finisher var.
9. 01:14:904 (229) - Ses var nota yok..bence sen bunlara da bir tekrar bakıver
10. 03:15:830 - Burayı daha zor yapabilirdin
11. 03:30:599 - Burada 03:31:522 - buraya kadar hiçbir 1/4 ses duymadım..overmapped görünüyor.
12. 04:02:749 (4) - Burayı dikkatli dinle,04:02:721 - Bateri sesi burada.

zigizigiefe wrote:

bakalım neler bulacam

[Merciless Oni]

1. 00:07:490 (7,8,9,10) - Dakika 1 gol 1...Şurayı tekrar dinle bence,buradaki ses daha farklı. Doğru, ama o zaman da sonuncusunu D yapmam gerekir ki dddD hiç oturmuyor bence.
2. 00:11:534 (37) - 1/3 patternleri finisher ile başlatma gözünü seveyim skfjdaskşjf Bana bir error gibi gelmedi, crash cymbal sesi var orada sonuçta
3. 00:12:883 (45) - Burada hiç güçlü bir ses duymadım şahsen Tekrar, crash cymbal sesi var.
4. 00:14:906 (65) - Bence sen intro parttaki güçlü sesleri gözden geçirip ona göre düzelt ^
5. 00:54:007 (1,1) - İkinci spinnerı kaldırıp birinciyi uzat STD map yapmıyorsun sonuçta,garip gözüküyor Mantıklı.
6. 00:59:989 - Burada diğerleri gibi ses var ama nota yok,elini korkak alıştırma zor olacak diye.Deathmetal mapliyorsun sonuçta lsdjfdkşasj Öyle ama mecburen streamleri bölmek zorundayım, yoksa nakaratı falan full birleşik yapmam gerekirdi çünkü şarkının her tarafında ses var. Streamleri 2 ölçüde bir böldüm.
7. 01:09:426 - ^
8. 01:14:904 (229) - Burada güçlü ses yok finisher var. Düzelttim.
9. 01:14:904 (229) - Ses var nota yok..bence sen bunlara da bir tekrar bakıver Aynı şeyi yazmışsın.
10. 03:15:830 - Burayı daha zor yapabilirdin Gerek yok, bateri sesleri sadece 1/4 patternların üzerinde.
11. 03:30:599 - Burada 03:31:522 - buraya kadar hiçbir 1/4 ses duymadım..overmapped görünüyor. 03:31:233 (223) - Bu notayı kaldırdım, gerisi duruyor. O kadar boşluk bir anda iyi görünmüyor.
12. 04:02:749 (4) - Burayı dikkatli dinle,04:02:721 - Bateri sesi burada. Bateri sesi gayet de 1/4 snap üzerinde, değiştirmeye gerek yok + garip görünüyor.

Streamler oturmuş,sıkıntı yok.

Backfire wrote:

[Merciless Oni]
00:13:557 - I think generally the pattern is ok but when I play it, it feels awkward against the music. I quite like just a more simple pattern like kdddddkdddddk, it fits other later parts too like 00:17:602 - 00:25:692 - .

I think it emphasizes well for some reason. It is basically for variation upon the first long stream that you've mentioned, and it also supports the music somehow. If that comes up again, I will change it though.

00:19:498 - I think this could be possibly changed into a dddk 1/8, to play on how the double bass pedal is performed.

The double bass is in 1/6, not 1/8. Also, I want to keep the pattern consistent. 1/3 + 1/8 won't look good.

Dude I noticed 00:29:737 - this stream isn't snapped, I don't wanna say "make sure and go through this whole map and check snapping" but you might want to. Just gently tug some of the notes and you will see...actually I checked and it really is a heavy issue here in the beginning, I'll keep checking every note throughout and remind you. Unsnapped notes in the beginning.
00:29:737 - I think this stream is another one that's kind of clashing with the music and awkward to play, how about kddddkdkkddk? That still kind of makes it more difficult but fits with the other streams doing kdddddk (if you apply my mod xd)

Same answer.

00:39:624 - I dunno why but I think if you make this don it emphasizes the hi-hat and it sounds better to me? uh...maybe i'm weird.

Tried already while on mapping, and it's the best option to emphasize the hi-hat sound. Don just doesn't do it enough there.

01:08:162 - I don't know if I like this pattern to much for the music, kkkkddkdkkddkkd is a better pattern for me that follows rather the drums and some of the other instruments, the other pattern is quite free-flowing, which is cool, but this is better for me at least, to fit with your style.

The density change on kats representing the guitar-pitch change which goes from high to low.

01:13:556 - Same here, not feeling the pattern, I actually have a pretty good replacement which is similar as well, try kdkkkdkkkdkkdkk, it keeps a similar structure as your other stream but just, for me, plays nicer?

01:13:556 (185,186) - Applied ctrl + g on those two in order to put a don on prominent kick sound on the white tick instead.

01:19:960 - As the bass implies, maybe kdk here? Just plain ddd is a bit vanilla.

Changed to kdd instead. A don represents the lower drum sound better.

01:35:382 - Kinda another nitpick with the streams, it's vanilla feeling and almost harder than if there was some good filler, I got kdkkdkdkdkkd, It fits the drums really faithfully I believe.

Yours is too complicated if you think about the drums. On the kkkkk, they are all the same. They also exist on 01:35:803 (411,412) - these two but I'd rather keep them as dons because I don't really want a 7 kats in a row, and 4 dons on that spot makes it more readable.

02:30:831 - Extending the stream will really help this feel less awkward than it currently is, adding a don and then changing 02:30:916 - to kat fits rather nicely. Without it, this feels so weird to me. Or, do like at 02:38:753 - where it is just a kkkk stream. Or add a don there too. This is really up to you but do one or the other imo

Applied the first one. Also added one don 02:38:753 - here in order to keep the similiar parts consistent on dense-wise.

03:35:214 - I really do not like there being such an extreme part on the faster bpm, I have a suggestion for cutting up your stream without changing any notes 03:35:618 - 03:35:733 - 03:36:080 - 03:36:310 - 03:36:657 - 03:36:772 - 03:37:118 - 03:37:233 - , those should be deleted imo. It still makes it intense without being too hard.

The drums are strongly supporting a stream there.

03:52:176 (91,92) - ctrl+g, it feels wrong the other way, like, purely by ear.

The guitar pitch is increasing, so is the kat density.

03:52:983 - I'm sorry but I think you should cut this stream up super hard as well, the drums don't produce a stream, so I don't know where this is coming from. It seems way too complicated too, I can agree with the streams you put before, but this one needs to blatantly be cut down into triplets and single notes, some 5plets. Maybe some more. This is pretty important for me, that you work on this stream. Maybe in irc we can see about making something else? I usually dislike blatant difficulty spikes all the way in the middle or the end of the maps, and I know it has some point for the song, but this is one of the only things in the map I really don't enjoy. Here is my proposal : Pretty lengthy so get ready for this, normal 1/4 spacing so it wont be confusing.
03:52:868 - k ddk d kdddk d kdddkdddkkkdkkd kdddk d k ddk d kdkkd kkkkddkdkkkdkkddkdkdkkddkdkkddkdkdkkddkkddkdd kdk kkddk k kkkkdkdkkkkkk. That shows all the cuts I made to the stream.

That stream is the main point of the song. The drums are going all the way with the twin-kicks, and it is neccessary to put a stream there. Also, it's not overmapped at all, and I want that section the most intense part of the map.

04:35:530 - For some reason the stream seems awkward as well, not really fitting the guitar? kkkdkdkdkkkkddd ? Sorry for doing this so often, I just think I have a lot of good alternatives for the stream so I wanna help you achieve like no awkwardness.

Those streams are a mix of guitar and drums, while the first part supports the guitar, the second part of it supports drums which are going kick-snare-kick-snare-kick-snare.
04:44:041 (429,430) - ctrl+g, kinda similar to above.

Somehow, that fit. Applied.

04:44:799 - With this, k needs to be here because it's like the part at 04:45:811 -

Ehh, the guitar goes the same 4 times so I put the ddd kdd variations to make the section, well, more various. If this broughts up again, I will change it though.

That looks like that's all! I really like the map but I think some of those changes will make it really more fun than technical, and fit the song more? I think simplicity is key for some songs, and you do really well in 90% of the spots! The reduce on streams just happened today, since I didn't want to make a map with only streams. But, I think the song needs a very dense parts as well, hence I kept the middle 260 bpm section as it is now.

1. d=Don
2. D=Big Don
3. k=Katsu
4. K=Big Katsu

1. All seems fine

1. 00:07:152 - i suggest changing this note to K, as the sound is different from 00:06:815 - , also, it looks more consistent with 00:11:534 - .
2. 01:20:044 - how about change this note to k? for some reason "flows" better. (just noticed that you kkd in 01:55:101 - , so i don't know if you did this for variety)
3. 01:39:089 - you can remove this note as it could look more consistent with 01:36:393 - and 01:47:179 - where you don't have a note.
4. 01:40:185 - to 01:40:522 - i highly suggest making this kkkkd as "imo" it looks weird having one in 01:37:488 - and not here where is the same sound.
5. 02:41:871 - to 02:42:713 - more or less a personal suggestion here, you could rework this to look like in 02:40:859 - as the sound of 02:42:545 - fits better with k and you are ignoring that here.
6. 03:28:176 - another personal suggestion here, how about add K finisher in 03:28:176 - and 03:28:407 - ? it fits really well with the melody imo.
7. 04:55:080 - it feels weird here as you was using kdkdkkd previously like in 04:54:069 - but no there, so maybe swapping 04:54:996 - and 04:55:080 - could work well.

Hanjamon wrote:

Hey fruko, here is my mod.

1. d=Don
2. D=Big Don
3. k=Katsu
4. K=Big Katsu

[General]

1. All seems fine

[Merciless Oni]

1. 00:07:152 - i suggest changing this note to K, as the sound is different from 00:06:815 - , also, it looks more consistent with 00:11:534 - . Agreed, changed.
2. 01:20:044 - how about change this note to k? for some reason "flows" better. (just noticed that you kkd in 01:55:101 - , so i don't know if you did this for variety) 01:20:044 (253,254) - The drum sounds are the same, so I'm gonna keep it.
3. 01:39:089 - you can remove this note as it could look more consistent with 01:36:393 - and 01:47:179 - where you don't have a note. Instead of deleting the note, added the notes on 01:36:939 and 01:47:179
4. 01:40:185 - to 01:40:522 - i highly suggest making this kkkkd as "imo" it looks weird having one in 01:37:488 - and not here where is the same sound. Reasonable enough, but instead of changing this one, changed the kkkkD to ddddK.
5. 02:41:871 - to 02:42:713 - more or less a personal suggestion here, you could rework this to look like in 02:40:859 - as the sound of 02:42:545 - fits better with k and you are ignoring that here. 02:42:544 (1094) - Changed to kat only.
6. 03:28:176 - another personal suggestion here, how about add K finisher in 03:28:176 - and 03:28:407 - ? it fits really well with the melody imo. I don't really a fan of using too much finishers on a map, and just because of the guitar sounds I don't think putting finishers on those spots are neccessary.
7. 04:55:080 - it feels weird here as you was using kdkdkkd previously like in 04:54:069 - but no there, so maybe swapping 04:54:996 - and 04:55:080 - could work well. 04:54:575 (544) - Changed to kat instead.

More or less that's all from me, nice song pick, gl! Thank you!

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