Logic Agent wrote:

returning m4m

[General]

1. 01:28:257 - turn kiai back on here instead of on the red tick? Done
2. lower mp3 kbps to 192 maximum Done
3. combo colors and preview?
4. OD8 is pretty low, I'd do like 8.7 or even higher honestly Ill think about it, if i get more people with similar thoughts ill change it

[Cyphisonic]

1. 00:09:057 (1) - silence the spinner? What do you mean?
2. 00:24:657 (7) - space this away from the circles and nc it for emphasis? Done
3. 00:25:107 (2,1) - move this off to the left more? moved it when i moved the above slider
4. 00:29:157 (7) - same as earlier done
   
5. 00:44:457 (1) - these spinners are very like 2009ish Fixed... kind of
6. 00:47:907 (1) - starting here try a rhythm like this? it's more fitting and helps highlight the change in sound while keeping the other rhythm strong
   
   
   Added
7. 01:07:857 - These kiais are mapped very dnb like when there's so much more that can be done with them. I don't wanna look through them and tell you to space a fiveburst out or make a triple look nicer, because that's lame for both of us. Just know that there's a lot more music to be mapped other than just the drums in this song I get what you're saying here, since ik most of camellia beatmaps are mapped to be pretty technical and stuff, but theres a reason im mapping this like a DnB song. It IS a DnB song therefore i think thats the most important part to be reflected in the mapping.
8. 01:49:857 - What is this stream mapped to? the piano
9. 01:51:807 - Starting here there's some new and interesting synth stuff to play with but you continue with the drum things instead You can hardly hear those synths, it would be weird to play a map which is mapped to those sounds imo
10. 03:12:657 - There's a lot more cooler ways to do this buildup without 3/4 slider spam Suggestions? Pm me if you're willing to elaborate.

I kinda don't wanna just look through this map because for a Camellia track it's kinda bland or uninteresting. The rhythms are far too straightforward and unrepresentative of the feel and the actual music contained in this piece. At a glance there's not a lot really "wrong" with the map, but it could be so much better on many different levels. Either way I hope these points give you some things to think about, and I wish you luck!

JinGwang wrote:

hello, you from queues m4m:D

[General]
- There is no hit sound in your note right now. Please add. Ill do the hitsounds after im sure my maps visuals (note placements, patterns etc.) are good
- Tags to Marathon add done
- Camellia's Cyphisonia E.P. is an album name. かめるかめりあ(Kamerukamera) is the record company name, so it is correct to add the company name. Done
- The volume is too loud. Change the overall volume to 75%. Done, though i dojnt see why it makes much of a difference

[Cyphisonic]
- Change slider tick 2? When you use the 1/1 slider, you will hear a "cymbal opening" in the middle. i dont understand what you mean here
00:28:707 (4,5,6) - Keep your circles spaced apart. The bit goes high. Done
00:34:257 (7) - NC add? 00: 35: 307 (1,1) - Add NC because it is the same here? done
00:37:857 (2,1) - It's a good idea to integrate circles and spinners. It is also recommended to specify the starting point of the spinner 00: 37: 932 - Done
01:07:857 (1) - x437 y64 to move? When played back, it moves quickly and then stops. Done
01:11:907 (3) - Change to stream? I think i prefer it as a reverse slider, if i get more people suggesting a triple i will change it
01:31:107 (3) - ^
02:14:007 (3,3,3) - I feel like this is a bit hard to play. I change the angle so it flows better, i think it works better like this
02:24:657 (1) - Extend the spinner to 02: 30: 807 - The FX sound ends here. Done

03:48:657 (7,1) - unnatural jump? I think it would be better to change it to slide. The lead bit ends at 6. Fixed, i remade that jump section before the stream
04:09:057 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2) - This is a pattern that does not match the sound. It is recommended to change as shown below. 04: 09: 057 (1,3,5) - Slides should be played back with sound. I see what you mean here, but having a pattern like that in a stream wouldn't flow very well, ill think about how to fix this problem

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04:19:557 - Please pull it. i dont know what you mean

nice map! GL

p.s It is a banner. Hang it on the door

FuruSatori wrote:

hi m4m

box

00:19:857 (1,2) i feel like you could blanket these better, and the ones that come after Done
00:40:107 (2,3) blanket a liiiittle better come on it was like a tiny bit off centre , fixed
01:26:757 (8,9,10,11,12) i dont think the spacing is justified Tbh i think the spacing is fine, its a build up before the kiai turns back on so i think it deserves some emphasis in spacing.
01:44:307 (4,5,6) the transition from sharp angular movement to weird shallow angle movement is weird. plz reconsider the sliders Fixedish, ill see how it goes
01:45:057 (1,2,3) spacing isnt consistent with the rest of the stream Fixed
01:55:857 (9,1) move 1 a litttttle over to the right so it better blankets with 9 done
01:57:357 (2,7) plz move 2 a little so the tiny overlay doesnt exist done
01:58:707 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) the way these streams overlap is... blegh. try and reposition? Fixed
02:19:557 (1,2,3,4,5) idk how but you could move the stream farther from the slider, jumps like that feel nicer to me i moved it a little.
03:11:457 (5) nc here done
04:08:907 (9,10,1,2,3) spacing (10-1) and flow here is bad plz fix Oh i didnt even realise that there was a 10 under there, whoops, fixed.

good map. im not a fan of straight streams but it doesnt look bad
good luck and sorry for shit mod!

e: set preview point and combo colours Set the preview point

1. Disable countdown in settings!
2. It's 6.5*, od8 might be a bit too low. Suggesting to higher it 9.
3. 00:19:857 (1,2) - The blanket is a bit off in this part, same for the repeating (1,2)'s after
4. 00:29:157 (1) - Maybe rotate this 30 degrees on selection. Would bring it more in line with the flow of 00:24:507 (6,1) and 00:34:107 (6,1).
5. 00:29:907 (1,2) - Could higher the DS between those sliders. Since every other 1/1 slider has a pretty long gap to a 1/2 slider.
6. 00:41:157 (1,2) - Has way more spacing than 00:40:107 (2,3), intentional ?
7. 00:44:457 (1) - Don't hear a sound which a slider should be mapped to, maybe move the slider to 00:44:307 (4)
8. 00:45:957 (1,2) - Fix blanket
9. 00:47:007 (1,2) - ^
10. 01:00:807 (4,5) - Pretty awkward flow, ctrl+g maybe?
11. 01:01:707 (4,5) - ^ Since it's the same pattern
12. 01:05:457 (3) - This is 100% a suggestion so feel free to ignore, but it would be pretty cool to have the stream start just a bit above 01:05:307 (2) (so continue the back and forth pattern), would take the player a bit by surprise to get them ready for the kiai.
13. 01:12:957 (2,7) - Are these meant to touch? Overlap looks a bit messy in my opinion.
14. 01:13:407 (7,1) - Could make these blanket, would make it look a lot nicer.
15. I don't really like the slider shapes at the end of the 5 bursts. You probably have a reason to make them as they are, but to me they feel a bit rushed.
16. 01:51:207 (1) - This was pretty awkward to aim while playing, it almost looked like a 1/4 jump. Maybe lower 1 a bit to increase the spacing?
17. 02:09:057 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - You should really increase the spacing on those. The streams are pretty spaced and these 1/4 sliders really stop the fast flow you have going. So more like 02:20:307 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1).
18. 02:09:807 (3, 1) - Should be further away from 1, to actually have a jump from 3 to 1.
19. 02:13:857 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Same here.
20. 02:18:657 (1,2,3) - This gap is different from anything you did before, I like it but it's inconsistent.
21. 02:20:307 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - These are more like it! Spacing between the 1/4 sliders and the stream after, way better! (I'd still increase the spacing a bit tho)
22. 02:34:257 (1,1) - You sure about NCing every single note? I think it would be better to keep them in pairs so remove NC of 02:34:857 (1), 02:36:057 (1), etc.
23. 03:12:657 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This pattern is pretty cool!
24. 03:41:607 (12) - Maybe place this at x:327 y:369. Would make this part flow better.
25. 03:46:407 (1) - Way too close ! Maybe at x:161 and y:183?
26. 04:08:007 (2) - Pretty strong sounds on both the start and the end of the slider, might be better as 2 circles instead? Maybe even start the stream at 04:07:857 (1)?
27. 04:23:607 (2,3) - Increase the spacing between those a bit, on my first play I thought it was a 1/4 jump from the slider, pretty confusing!
28. 04:27:132 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Could really do with some increased DS as well.
29. 04:31:257 (1,2) - Could blanket these 2 sliders better with their respective circles.
30. 04:32:757 (2,3,4,5,1) - Weird pattern, you have this back and forth going and suddenly you have to go all the way to the other side of the map? It's doable, just a bit weird.
31. 04:44:757 (1,2) - Make these more similar ?
32. 04:51:807 (1) - This felt a bit sudden. I don't know how to change it though, but it took me by surprise when I first played the map.

GenDoNL wrote:

Hello~, my side of the m4m!

One of my favorite songs by Camellia ^^
[Cyphisonic]

1. Disable countdown in settings! done
2. It's 6.5*, od8 might be a bit too low. Suggesting to higher it 9. Okay, second person to suggest this, i shall raise it to 8.7
3. 00:19:857 (1,2) - The blanket is a bit off in this part, same for the repeating (1,2)'s after Fixed, i think
4. 00:29:157 (1) - Maybe rotate this 30 degrees on selection. Would bring it more in line with the flow of 00:24:507 (6,1) and 00:34:107 (6,1). Done, i love it when people notice stuff like this (i'd never see such a detail)
5. 00:29:907 (1,2) - Could higher the DS between those sliders. Since every other 1/1 slider has a pretty long gap to a 1/2 slider. done
6. 00:41:157 (1,2) - Has way more spacing than 00:40:107 (2,3), intentional ? Not quite sure what you mean, but the blue combo had a bad blanket so i fixed that
7. 00:44:457 (1) - Don't hear a sound which a slider should be mapped to, maybe move the slider to 00:44:307 (4) Fixed
8. 00:45:957 (1,2) - Fix blanket
9. 00:47:007 (1,2) - ^ Fixed both
10. 01:00:807 (4,5) - Pretty awkward flow, ctrl+g maybe? Yeah looks better now
11. 01:01:707 (4,5) - ^ Since it's the same pattern ^^
12. 01:05:457 (3) - This is 100% a suggestion so feel free to ignore, but it would be pretty cool to have the stream start just a bit above 01:05:307 (2) (so continue the back and forth pattern), would take the player a bit by surprise to get them ready for the kiai. Done
13. 01:12:957 (2,7) - Are these meant to touch? Overlap looks a bit messy in my opinion. Fixed
14. 01:13:407 (7,1) - Could make these blanket, would make it look a lot nicer. moved some stuff around, it looks a bit beetter
15. I don't really like the slider shapes at the end of the 5 bursts. You probably have a reason to make them as they are, but to me they feel a bit rushed.
16. 01:51:207 (1) - This was pretty awkward to aim while playing, it almost looked like a 1/4 jump. Maybe lower 1 a bit to increase the spacing? Done
17. 02:09:057 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - You should really increase the spacing on those. The streams are pretty spaced and these 1/4 sliders really stop the fast flow you have going. So more like 02:20:307 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1). somewhat fixed, im not sure how well it plays now.
18. 02:09:807 (3, 1) - Should be further away from 1, to actually have a jump from 3 to 1. done
19. 02:13:857 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Same here. ^^
20. 02:18:657 (1,2,3) - This gap is different from anything you did before, I like it but it's inconsistent. God that took ages to rework, hopefully its okay now
21. 02:20:307 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - These are more like it! Spacing between the 1/4 sliders and the stream after, way better! (I'd still increase the spacing a bit tho) Done
22. 02:34:257 (1,1) - You sure about NCing every single note? I think it would be better to keep them in pairs so remove NC of 02:34:857 (1), 02:36:057 (1), etc. done
23. 03:12:657 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This pattern is pretty cool! thanks
24. 03:41:607 (12) - Maybe place this at x:327 y:369. Would make this part flow better. Done
25. 03:46:407 (1) - Way too close ! Maybe at x:161 and y:183? Rotated all the circle, slider combinations a bit
26. 04:08:007 (2) - Pretty strong sounds on both the start and the end of the slider, might be better as 2 circles instead? Maybe even start the stream at 04:07:857 (1)? extended stream
27. 04:23:607 (2,3) - Increase the spacing between those a bit, on my first play I thought it was a 1/4 jump from the slider, pretty confusing! Done
28. 04:27:132 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Could really do with some increased DS as well. spent so much time fiddling wiith whatever used to be here i forgot what i was actually changing...
29. 04:31:257 (1,2) - Could blanket these 2 sliders better with their respective circles. done
30. 04:32:757 (2,3,4,5,1) - Weird pattern, you have this back and forth going and suddenly you have to go all the way to the other side of the map? It's doable, just a bit weird. fixed.
31. 04:44:757 (1,2) - Make these more similar ? uhh, similarly to above, i got so lost in reworking that sectrion i dont even know what it is i was supposed to fix.
32. 04:51:807 (1) - This felt a bit sudden. I don't know how to change it though, but it took me by surprise when I first played the map. there was a previous suggestion that i decided not to implement which fixes this problem well.

A lot of these were suggestions, so feel free to deny them.

I hope I didn't sound too harsh. Not at all, my map still needs work so im open to as many things you can suggest as possible
It's a nice map, GL ranking it!

Shiratoi wrote:

yo m4m

Cyphisonic

00:24:507 (6,1) - spacing shouldnt differ here imo since music is really soft here theres no need to have so much emphasis on 00:24:657 (1) - . would break the consistency with the singletap lines you had be as well I moved them a bit closer, but i like the emphasis on the final slider. You can hear that in all of them, the slider is mapped to the same piano note, while the single notes are all different.
00:29:007 (6,1) - same thing above, catch the rest
00:29:907 (1,2) - why is spacing so far here when 00:30:506 (2,3) - is so close ;; since its a soft part like i said earlier, i would keep DS on so it wont cause any inconsistencies throughout this part (of course that requires a lot of remapping so you might not want to aha) Random pause in music is why theres big spacing.
00:32:607 (1,2) - time to teach you how to blanket desu. try to ctrl+g 00:32:607 (1) - and move back in the timeline so you can see the approach circle of 00:32:607 (1) - which would be at 00:32:532 - or farthere if you want the blanket to be farther, vice versa. then move 00:33:057 (2) - in the timeline so its visible. should look something like : https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6919445. then just use the approach circle of 00:32:607 (1) - to match with the slider body of 00:32:757 (2) - like so : https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6919453. then just move everything back how it was originally (ctrl+g 00:32:607 (1) - and move everything back the way it was on the timeline) That made no sense to me, but the two screenshots did, fixed.
00:43:857 (3,4) - the 2 notes here dont really make sense imo since you were following that piano(?) sound up until now so might as well continue it i would have if therer wasnt an overwhelming, and much louder sound in place of the piano at that part in the song.
00:43:257 (1,2,3) - you spaced out 1/2 notes like this but then ruin the consistency with 00:47:457 (2,1) - . so i would change 00:47:457 (2,1) - like the first spacingv done
01:09:207 (2,3) - i would actually ctrl+g the rhythm here since the beat at 01:09:357 - deserves to be clickable imo i pretty much redid a lot of the stuff in the first 2 kiai sections because of this
01:45:282 (4,5,6,7) - stream here doesnt really have a "smooth" transition so try to make it more curvy : https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6919508 Done
01:46:257 (9,1) - ctrl+g the rhythm here. sounds much better than ending a slider on a strong beat c: in the above statement about me changing a bunch of this in the 2 f=irst 2 kiai sections, i noticed this and changed it.
01:51:057 (9,1) - same thing, catch the rest
02:04:632 (6,5) - try to adjust the stream so that these 2 overlap for the aesthetics ~ would look much neater done
02:15:807 (3,1,1,1) - i think these would work better as notes than sliders since it kinda ruins the momentum from the stream to suddenly play an easy part done
02:19:857 (5,1,2,3) - kind of weird spacing.. you separate the notes by making them look like 1/4 but they actually have a break in between them which would cause readability problems. i would either stack 02:20:307 (1,2,3) - with 02:19:857 (5) - or just move it farther i dont see the problem, the green slider is hardly even on screen when the yellow stream finishes, but i do think it would look better if they were stacked, so done.
02:34:857 (1) - remove NC for consistency with the rest of the sldiers Whoops missed that one
02:51:957 (3,1) - flow here feels kinda forced imo. i would do something like : https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6919566 You triggered me with your slider and its anti-flow, but ill change it, edit, i didnt really change it cos i made a cool looking triangle with it.
02:54:657 (1,2,3) - ctrl+g this triangle to keep the counterclockwise flow you were having with 02:53:457 (1,2,3) - ? Edited that section a bit
03:34:182 (10,11,5,6) - just move the stream and adjust it a little so that these stack for the aesthetic like last time done

Comments

idk im really bad at modding 6* maps especially camellia maps so hopefully i make sense >w< i saw a few NC inconsistencies throughout the map so hopefully i can point them out sometime later. sorry i didnt get to mod the whole thing since im a lazy butt. anyways, the map was a little repetitive since the streams and sliders all look a like but maybe because its the song haha. good luck though! pm me for any questions, hopefully i helped ~

Thanks for modding you did fine, every opinion helps when it comes to my shitmap

-NekoNya wrote:

yay~

Irc Mod~

2017-01-01 21:22 [ Lilu ]: Hey
2017-01-01 21:22 -NekoNya: nyaaa
2017-01-01 21:22 -NekoNya: ?
2017-01-01 21:22 -NekoNya: hi~
2017-01-01 21:23 [ Lilu ]: Remember me?
2017-01-01 21:24 -NekoNya:  no
2017-01-01 21:24 -NekoNya: xD
2017-01-01 21:24 -NekoNya: nahh
2017-01-01 21:24 -NekoNya: yes i do
2017-01-01 21:24 [ Lilu ]: ACTION is confised
2017-01-01 21:25 -NekoNya:  whaa...?
2017-01-01 21:26 [ Lilu ]: We talked a while ago
2017-01-01 21:27 -NekoNya:  hmm...
2017-01-01 21:27 -NekoNya: i dont really remember
2017-01-01 21:27 -NekoNya: sorry ~
2017-01-01 21:27 [ Lilu ]: Ah well that would be why
2017-01-01 21:27 [ Lilu ]: We kind of agreed to a m4m
2017-01-01 21:27 -NekoNya: why,,,,
2017-01-01 21:27 -NekoNya: OHH!!
2017-01-01 21:28 -NekoNya: yes
2017-01-01 21:28 -NekoNya: i remember you perfectly
2017-01-01 21:28 [ Lilu ]: :D
2017-01-01 21:28 -NekoNya: i was gonna do that... no... It's already done
2017-01-01 21:28 [ Lilu ]: ?
2017-01-01 21:28 -NekoNya: i just can't put it on forums cause my i change my wifi caurier
2017-01-01 21:28 [ Lilu ]: ooh
2017-01-01 21:28 -NekoNya: and now i can't put it in
2017-01-01 21:29 -NekoNya: that should have been done on the last night we talked tho
2017-01-01 21:29 [ Lilu ]: You lost it and didnt want to do it again?
2017-01-01 21:29 -NekoNya: wait a sec... after i do this... i'm gonna do it again
2017-01-01 21:29 -NekoNya: i just recovered my internet this day~
2017-01-01 21:29 [ Lilu ]: no no its fine, atleast i know why now :D
2017-01-01 21:29 -NekoNya: no... on new years that is...
2017-01-01 21:29 -NekoNya: sorry... im very sorry~
2017-01-01 21:30 -NekoNya: dont worry... im going to do it right away~
2017-01-01 21:30 [ Lilu ]: its okay, i just wanted to know why :P
2017-01-01 21:30 [ Lilu ]: if you really want to, ill be really happy :D
2017-01-01 21:30 -NekoNya: sure~
2017-01-01 21:30 -NekoNya: can you link me the song again?
2017-01-01 21:31 [ Lilu ]: sure
2017-01-01 21:31 [ Lilu ]: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1162085 Camellia - Literal Crystal In The Cyphisonia]
2017-01-01 21:31 -NekoNya: okay...
2017-01-01 21:31 -NekoNya: welp... see you later thenn
2017-01-01 21:32 [ Lilu ]: Alrighty, sorry if its a bit annoying to redo it uwu
2017-01-01 21:38 -NekoNya: noo... it's my fault to not send it right away ;w;
2017-01-01 21:51 -NekoNya: ayy
2017-01-01 21:51 -NekoNya: im back~
2017-01-01 21:51 [ Lilu ]: Wb
2017-01-01 21:51 -NekoNya: can i just IRC you?
2017-01-01 21:52 -NekoNya: since you're online and all
2017-01-01 21:52 [ Lilu ]: Sure thing
2017-01-01 21:52 -NekoNya: okay...
2017-01-01 21:52 -NekoNya: are you on the map right now?
2017-01-01 21:52 [ Lilu ]: Yep
2017-01-01 21:52 [ Lilu ]: ready to go
2017-01-01 21:52 -NekoNya: i have little confident cause i don't notice much \
2017-01-01 21:52 -NekoNya: but okay...
2017-01-01 21:53 [ Lilu ]: its alright :P im the same
2017-01-01 21:53 -NekoNya: 00:20:307 (2) - fix blanket
2017-01-01 21:53 -NekoNya: put it a little on the left..
2017-01-01 21:53 -NekoNya: a whimsy bit to the left
2017-01-01 21:53 -NekoNya: no need to turn it
2017-01-01 21:53 -NekoNya: 00:22:407 (2) - same with this
2017-01-01 21:54 -NekoNya: 00:23:457 (2) - and this <<<<
2017-01-01 21:54 -NekoNya: 00:25:107 (2) - and this
2017-01-01 21:54 -NekoNya: these three are needed to be curved a little...
2017-01-01 21:55 -NekoNya: y'know... i usually map on tiny grid...
2017-01-01 21:55 [ Lilu ]: oke i think i fixed em
2017-01-01 21:55 -NekoNya: so blankets should be easier
2017-01-01 21:55 [ Lilu ]: i map without gridsnap.......
2017-01-01 21:56 -NekoNya: 00:30:957 (3) - this too~ fix the blanket
2017-01-01 21:57 [ Lilu ]: oke
2017-01-01 21:58 -NekoNya: 01:06:357 (5,6,7,8,9) - not perfectly curved
2017-01-01 21:58 -NekoNya: 01:09:807 (7) - fix the guy's bent
2017-01-01 21:59 -NekoNya: 01:15:057 (1,2,3) - the flow here is mysterious... this ruins the flow.. but if this is intended... it's okay
2017-01-01 22:00 -NekoNya: 01:25:407 (8) - i didn't see a slider like this... try if you have any ideas for a slider.
2017-01-01 22:00 [ Lilu ]: 01:09:807 (7) -
2017-01-01 22:00 [ Lilu ]: whats wrong with this one?
2017-01-01 22:01 -NekoNya: try to fix the angle a little...
2017-01-01 22:01 [ Lilu ]: ah ok
2017-01-01 22:02 -NekoNya: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6948934
2017-01-01 22:02 -NekoNya: like that ^^
2017-01-01 22:02 [ Lilu ]: ye i did that thanks :D
2017-01-01 22:03 [ Lilu ]: i fixed everything you mentioned
2017-01-01 22:03 -NekoNya: 01:25:407 (8) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6948951
2017-01-01 22:04 [ Lilu ]: ooo
2017-01-01 22:04 [ Lilu ]: OH
2017-01-01 22:04 -NekoNya: 01:26:757 (8,9,10,11,12) - this guys... oh no... please try and think about this... ;w;
2017-01-01 22:04 [ Lilu ]: i completely forgot you can use those shaped sliders XD
2017-01-01 22:04 -NekoNya: xD
2017-01-01 22:04 [ Lilu ]: ill change some of them if it suits the slider better
2017-01-01 22:04 [ Lilu ]: so you dont need to worry about suggesting that again
2017-01-01 22:05 [ Lilu ]: this stream
2017-01-01 22:05 [ Lilu ]: 01:26:757 (8,9,10,11,12) -
2017-01-01 22:05 -NekoNya: yep
2017-01-01 22:05 [ Lilu ]: is it the shape or flow?
2017-01-01 22:05 -NekoNya: 01:36:507 (6,1) - flow broken right here 
2017-01-01 22:05 [ Lilu ]: or??
2017-01-01 22:05 -NekoNya: 01:26:757 (8,9,10,11,12) - these guys... the spacing is weird 
2017-01-01 22:06 [ Lilu ]: i see
2017-01-01 22:06 [ Lilu ]: Well, ill leave them for now, because its supposed to emphasise the drums getting louder
2017-01-01 22:06 [ Lilu ]: but if i have more people saying it needs to change i will
2017-01-01 22:06 -NekoNya: okay
2017-01-01 22:07 -NekoNya: 02:09:957 (1,2,3,4) - fix the angle
2017-01-01 22:07 [ Lilu ]: im going to think about fixing
2017-01-01 22:07 [ Lilu ]: 01:36:507 (6,1) -
2017-01-01 22:07 -NekoNya: yep...
2017-01-01 22:07 -NekoNya: fix that part...
2017-01-01 22:08 -NekoNya: are you going to remap it?
2017-01-01 22:08 [ Lilu ]: Hm
2017-01-01 22:08 [ Lilu ]: it think i fixed it
2017-01-01 22:09 [ Lilu ]: ill send a picture
2017-01-01 22:09 -NekoNya: 02:23:907 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - this guys' spacing man... it's harsh
2017-01-01 22:09 [ Lilu ]: https://puu.sh/t7DQX/d0c72851e0.jpg
2017-01-01 22:10 [ Lilu ]: 02:09:957 (1,2,3,4,5) -
2017-01-01 22:10 [ Lilu ]: fixed
2017-01-01 22:11 [ Lilu ]: i also reduced the spacing of the stream
2017-01-01 22:12 [ Lilu ]: it was 1.2, now its 1.05
2017-01-01 22:12 [ Lilu ]: Distance snap
2017-01-01 22:13 -NekoNya: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6948998 you can do this like this~]
2017-01-01 22:13 -NekoNya: 02:38:982 here
2017-01-01 22:13 [ Lilu ]: Why?
2017-01-01 22:13 [ Lilu ]: theres nothing in the music to suggest that
2017-01-01 22:14 -NekoNya: 02:34:257 (1) - you can try to put some curved slider here
2017-01-01 22:14 [ Lilu ]: 02:48:657 (1) -  maybe if i did it here
2017-01-01 22:14 -NekoNya: try and do some of it
2017-01-01 22:14 -NekoNya: for different styles
2017-01-01 22:14 [ Lilu ]: okay im going to do some curved sliders 02:48:657 (1) -
2017-01-01 22:14 [ Lilu ]: instead of notes
2017-01-01 22:15 -NekoNya: okay
2017-01-01 22:16 -NekoNya: 03:38:532 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - this curve is ugly... try to angle them better
2017-01-01 22:17 -NekoNya: 04:09:732 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - is this curve intended?
2017-01-01 22:18 -NekoNya: 04:10:332 you can try putting a slider here and end it on 04:12:657 imo
2017-01-01 22:20 -NekoNya: i guess that's it..
2017-01-01 22:20 -NekoNya: other than the few sliders its good!
2017-01-01 22:21 [ Lilu ]: 03:48:657 (1,2,1,2,1,2) -
2017-01-01 22:21 [ Lilu ]: do you think these should be ctrl+g
2017-01-01 22:21 [ Lilu ]: they sound backwards
2017-01-01 22:21 -NekoNya: i don't really mind that guys
2017-01-01 22:22 [ Lilu ]: okay
2017-01-01 22:22 [ Lilu ]: i did it anyway :P
2017-01-01 22:22 [ Lilu ]: And so
2017-01-01 22:22 [ Lilu ]: to the previous things
2017-01-01 22:22 [ Lilu ]: 04:09:732 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
2017-01-01 22:22 -NekoNya: i guess you're right
2017-01-01 22:22 [ Lilu ]: This is curved
2017-01-01 22:22 -NekoNya: hmm
2017-01-01 22:22 [ Lilu ]: because if you listen to the music
2017-01-01 22:22 [ Lilu ]: it goes from high pitch to low pitch
2017-01-01 22:23 -NekoNya: is it like an S?
2017-01-01 22:23 [ Lilu ]: so thew curve reflects that change in pitch
2017-01-01 22:23 [ Lilu ]: yeah a bit
2017-01-01 22:23 -NekoNya: oh... it's like distorted/
2017-01-01 22:23 [ Lilu ]: oh it is?
2017-01-01 22:23 [ Lilu ]: it is
2017-01-01 22:23 -NekoNya: yeah
2017-01-01 22:23 [ Lilu ]: ill fix that
2017-01-01 22:24 -NekoNya: okay... i'll wait until you update the map
2017-01-01 22:24 [ Lilu ]: ok
2017-01-01 22:26 [ Lilu ]: updated
2017-01-01 22:26 -NekoNya: done :3
2017-01-01 22:27 -NekoNya: lemme see
2017-01-01 22:28 -NekoNya: going for approved?
2017-01-01 22:28 -NekoNya: or ranked?
2017-01-01 22:28 [ Lilu ]: uhh
2017-01-01 22:28 -NekoNya: hmm?
2017-01-01 22:28 [ Lilu ]: idk yet, i just want to have a good, fun map
2017-01-01 22:29 -NekoNya: hmm...
2017-01-01 22:29 -NekoNya: its fun xD
2017-01-01 22:29 [ Lilu ]: but its not good enough
2017-01-01 22:29 -NekoNya: so many streams .... nice music to liven up ur hands
2017-01-01 22:29 -NekoNya: well... everything's not good enough...
2017-01-01 22:29 [ Lilu ]: i wish i could play it
2017-01-01 22:29 -NekoNya: so until it's not done you could still improve
2017-01-01 22:29 -NekoNya: xD
2017-01-01 22:29 -NekoNya: i can't play that map...
2017-01-01 22:30 -NekoNya: i suck on streams xD
2017-01-01 22:30 [ Lilu ]: same xd
2017-01-01 22:30 [ Lilu ]: i watched someone pass it and it felt so great
2017-01-01 22:30 -NekoNya: :D yes...
2017-01-01 22:30 -NekoNya: i feel ya~
2017-01-01 22:30 -NekoNya: oh..
2017-01-01 22:30 -NekoNya: im gonna send the IRC to the forum kay?
2017-01-01 22:30 [ Lilu ]: oke

Invertable wrote:

Hi NM from our modding queue The Black Vultures

Le Mod

• 00:28:257 (2) - Slider You mean it should be a slider? idk, im confused
  
  00:28:557 (3,4,5,6) - If you listen closely ul see that this 4 notes have different music 00:28:557 (3,4) - this ones are one part 00:28:857 (5,6) - this is the second part so either make some distance between them or just put a slider instead of these 00:28:557 (3,4) i think i fixed it
  
  00:33:657 (3,4,5,6) - This part can look something like this http://prntscr.com/drt1c4 done
  
  00:53:907 (4,1,2) - Fix blanket i used your trick
  
  00:54:957 (2) - ^
  
  01:00:507 (3,5) - Idk if you were trying to blanket these 2 but if you did fix it if you didn't make a blanket done
  
  01:09:807 (7,1) - Also fix blanket it doesn't look nice that is why I'm saying you to fix it and shape that slider 01:09:807 (7) - like this it http://prntscr.com/drt4jk looks a lot better Done
  
  01:11:007 (7) - Point slider end on this 01:11:457 (1) circle done
  
  01:11:457 (1) - Point this one on this one 01:11:757 (2) - like this http://prntscr.com/drt6kh and why I'm telling you to fix all those little mistakes cause it looks so good when its perfect plus you can use it in your future mapping oke ty, il go back through it after this and look for anthing u might have missed, or decided not to say anything about
  
  01:14:157 (2,1) - Stack these done
  
  01:18:957 (2) - You can move this one to http://prntscr.com/drt9ek and stack 01:19:857 (1) - on it Done, how did you even notice something like that, i have much to learn by the looks of it
  
  01:28:557 (2) - Stack this one on 01:27:507 (2) done
  
  01:32:607 (7) - Please shape this slider differently it doesn't look nice :S idk if it looks any better that the previous one but i changed it
  
  01:33:507 (3,4,5,6,7) - You can stack this part on 01:32:382 (4) - you will avoid overlap done
  
  01:54:657 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - On this stream you can hear that beat on this note 01:55:557 (5) - which in my case i would probably put a new combo on it and remove combo on 01:55:257 (1) - plus after 01:55:557 (5) - you don t need stream anymore cause it over mapped with stream you can just make 1/2 jump http://prntscr.com/drtehd good emphasize and right rhythm oke i think i fixed it properly
  
  02:01:407 (7,1) - Bad flow change it fixed
  
  02:12:207 (7) - This looks really ugly try to make slider like this http://prntscr.com/drtfnq better flow plus nicer slider you can have that clean start of the stream with that slider cause it prepares you for that stream done
  
  02:22:257 (9) - Idk why u ignored this beat put NC on it and emphasize it by changing a direction of the stream redid the combos
  
  02:22:407 (1) - Remove combo not needed nothing new starts on it so
  
  02:23:457 (5) - NC
  
  02:23:157 (1) - Remove combo i fixed all these issues when i redid the combos
  
  02:24:657 (1) - Put circle there really important beat and you didn't emphasize it with anything that spinner is just weak put it on blue tick after that circle like this http://prntscr.com/drthli Fixed
  
  03:43:107 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - You mapped this stream completely wrong 03:43:557 (7) - you should change the direction of the stream on this note plus put NC on it and increase DS on stream after that circle fixed
  
  03:46:557 (2) - Put this slider here http://prntscr.com/drtjwg looks better plus no overlap done
  
  03:47:457 (2,3) - Blanket these too by moving 03:47:457 (2) - to 03:48:057 (3) done
  
  04:01:857 (6,3) - Blanket them
  
  04:04:407 (2,1,2,3,4) - ^ Fixed all these blanket issues
  
  04:30:807 (2,1) -^
  
  04:31:107 (4,2) - ^

Watch for those little mistakes cause they change the map a lot frendly advice ty for pointing these out to me, ill go and double check once more to see if theres anything i can change!
Ok I'l help you with something else too you can make blankets look perfect like this http://prntscr.com/drtnk2 so you put a note that you wan t to blanket with closer to each others and you do the slider by measuring the approach circle with slider edges
Hopefully you will find this mode somewhat helpful and GL with the map!

[ Lilu ] wrote:

Invertable wrote:

Hi NM from our modding queue The Black Vultures

Le Mod

• 00:28:257 (2) - Slider You mean it should be a slider? idk, im confusedyes it should be slider xd
  00:28:557 (3,4,5,6) - If you listen closely ul see that this 4 notes have different music 00:28:557 (3,4) - this ones are one part 00:28:857 (5,6) - this is the second part so either make some distance between them or just put a slider instead of these 00:28:557 (3,4) i think i fixed it
  
  00:33:657 (3,4,5,6) - This part can look something like this http://prntscr.com/drt1c4 done
  
  00:53:907 (4,1,2) - Fix blanket i used your trick
  
  00:54:957 (2) - ^
  
  01:00:507 (3,5) - Idk if you were trying to blanket these 2 but if you did fix it if you didn't make a blanket done
  
  01:09:807 (7,1) - Also fix blanket it doesn't look nice that is why I'm saying you to fix it and shape that slider 01:09:807 (7) - like this it http://prntscr.com/drt4jk looks a lot better Done
  
  01:11:007 (7) - Point slider end on this 01:11:457 (1) circle done
  
  01:11:457 (1) - Point this one on this one 01:11:757 (2) - like this http://prntscr.com/drt6kh and why I'm telling you to fix all those little mistakes cause it looks so good when its perfect plus you can use it in your future mapping oke ty, il go back through it after this and look for anthing u might have missed, or decided not to say anything about
  
  01:14:157 (2,1) - Stack these done
  
  01:18:957 (2) - You can move this one to http://prntscr.com/drt9ek and stack 01:19:857 (1) - on it Done, how did you even notice something like that, i have much to learn by the looks of it
  
  01:28:557 (2) - Stack this one on 01:27:507 (2) done
  
  01:32:607 (7) - Please shape this slider differently it doesn't look nice :S idk if it looks any better that the previous one but i changed it
  
  01:33:507 (3,4,5,6,7) - You can stack this part on 01:32:382 (4) - you will avoid overlap done
  
  01:54:657 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - On this stream you can hear that beat on this note 01:55:557 (5) - which in my case i would probably put a new combo on it and remove combo on 01:55:257 (1) - plus after 01:55:557 (5) - you don t need stream anymore cause it over mapped with stream you can just make 1/2 jump http://prntscr.com/drtehd good emphasize and right rhythm oke i think i fixed it properly
  
  02:01:407 (7,1) - Bad flow change it fixed
  
  02:12:207 (7) - This looks really ugly try to make slider like this http://prntscr.com/drtfnq better flow plus nicer slider you can have that clean start of the stream with that slider cause it prepares you for that stream done
  
  02:22:257 (9) - Idk why u ignored this beat put NC on it and emphasize it by changing a direction of the stream redid the combos
  
  02:22:407 (1) - Remove combo not needed nothing new starts on it so
  
  02:23:457 (5) - NC
  
  02:23:157 (1) - Remove combo i fixed all these issues when i redid the combos
  
  02:24:657 (1) - Put circle there really important beat and you didn't emphasize it with anything that spinner is just weak put it on blue tick after that circle like this http://prntscr.com/drthli Fixed
  
  03:43:107 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - You mapped this stream completely wrong 03:43:557 (7) - you should change the direction of the stream on this note plus put NC on it and increase DS on stream after that circle fixed
  
  03:46:557 (2) - Put this slider here http://prntscr.com/drtjwg looks better plus no overlap done
  
  03:47:457 (2,3) - Blanket these too by moving 03:47:457 (2) - to 03:48:057 (3) done
  
  04:01:857 (6,3) - Blanket them
  
  04:04:407 (2,1,2,3,4) - ^ Fixed all these blanket issues
  
  04:30:807 (2,1) -^
  
  04:31:107 (4,2) - ^

Watch for those little mistakes cause they change the map a lot frendly advice ty for pointing these out to me, ill go and double check once more to see if theres anything i can change!
Ok I'l help you with something else too you can make blankets look perfect like this http://prntscr.com/drtnk2 so you put a note that you wan t to blanket with closer to each others and you do the slider by measuring the approach circle with slider edges
Hopefully you will find this mode somewhat helpful and GL with the map!

thanks so much for the mod! appreciate the advice so much <3

Kujinn wrote:

Yo!

[Cyphisonic]

1. 00:19:857 - 00:37:857 - lot of blankets in this section needs fixing such as?
2. 00:43:857 (3,4) - could be more straight This doesnt highlight an existing note, so i will assume i fixed it.
3. 00:48:657 (4,5) - ^ Refer to above
4. This 00:44:907 (5,6) - I wouldn't say its a big issue but maybe increase DS a little, even though it's similar pattern, 00:47:007 (1,2) - has a larger DS.
5. 00:49:707 (1,2) - ^ same here Kinda fixed these issues, its the DS difference are so small you can barely notice them as you play imo, but they are a bit closer now.
6. 01:01:557 (1,2,3) - from what I hear, this should start here 01:01:407 - Uh, theres no sound at 01:01:407, but i did change them
7. 01:04:257 (1) - I think from the point you should've done something more with the jumps, done
8. 01:09:807 (7,1) - Increase DS, im pretty sure that is because of the changing slider velocity, because if there is a change in DS between the last note of the stream and the slider, its pretty much 100% unnoticeable.
9. 01:13:407 (7,1) - ^ You have a larger DS with a lot of others with the same rhythm
10. 01:35:007 (7,1) - ^
11. 01:43:557 (3) - You could stack this on 01:42:807 (1) - players at this level should have no problem reading that, plus it would go in nicely into the jumps afterwards Done
12. 01:43:857 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I suggest trying to shape these jumps better, give it more form, also 01:44:907 (8,1) - too linear, Try starting the stream around Fixed
13. 02:20:307 - 02:24:657 - This section is literally just streams, They're a lot of changes in the music you could do much more with it. got no idea what i did, but its different, so it muct be better :^)
14. 03:26:457 (1,2,3,4) - awkward pattern compared to 03:25:857 (1,2,3,4) - fixeded
15. 03:26:907 (4,1) - too linear, no emphasis on 1 its not linear anymore
16. 03:31:557 (7) - maybe a 1/4 slider would be nice, would give a lot more emphasis done
17. Rhythm is off, move this up by 1/2 and place a circle 03:39:207 - done
18. 03:43:107 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Overstreaming imo, if you remove 03:43:782 (5,6) - that's what the rhythm should be, at least that's what I hear from the music Fixed
19. 03:48:657 (1) - There's no strong sound here, from what I hear, circle should be placed here 03:48:807 - and slider here 03:48:957 - right after fixed
20. 03:51:207 (10) - nc 03:51:357 (1) - no nc Fixed
21. 03:52:707 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Same thing I said earlier about over stream Fixed
22. 04:00:807 (7) - nc? 04:00:957 (1) - remove nc? done
23. 04:03:057 (7) - really off rhythm, there's a strong sound on slider end. Eh kinda fixed
24. 04:29:457 (2) - nc?
25. 04:29:457 - It's hard to tell what part of the music you are mapping to from here, because from what I here, this section is just a more intense version of 04:58:707 - so you should've mapped kinda of in that way. This section sounds a lot differnt to the previous sections, not only does it sound a lot different, the drums in the background are also more uniform in their beats (once every bar i think, im bad with music terms). But in any case, i think it should be mapped differently

Good Luck!

cute boy wrote:

m4m thingy

good song but i suck at streams so hard for me to play v~v

dif:

01:07:857 (5) - why not have this be a slider ending on the red tick so it matches the other parts that are like this (also make this a nc pls) Done
01:13:407 - why does kiai cut off here then come back right after the slider Cos im a derp whoops
01:27:807 - ^ Fixed
01:56:307 (5,6,7,8,9) - alignment is kinda off idk if intentional or not Not iintentional, i swear o copy and pasted most of these streams... idk why its like this, Fixed
02:18:582 (8,1) - spacing tho I dont see a problem here
02:21:432 (8,1) - ^
02:41:457 (1,2,1,2) - think spacing here is too big for the calm section, all the other ones are good tho Fixed
03:12:657 - 03:21:957 - this section is fun to play i like it ty <3
03:22:857 (1,2,3,4) - ctrl-g for better flow
03:23:457 (1,2,3,4) - ^
03:24:657 (1,2,3,4) - ^
03:25:257 (1,2,3,4) - ^ Ctrl G wasnt the answer, but i did redo some of the jumps to improve flow
03:38:157 (7,1) - from the 7 to the stream is kinda tough to do imo, id have the stream come down and make like a U or do an O but start it by going down like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7117919 Fixed
03:40:782 (5,6) - space these out more for the intensity of the song Done
04:09:057 (1,2,3) - for this it seems too bland for the big finale of the section, heres something i came up with that u could maybe use as a guide to what imo would be better here for this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7118073 (and of course the stream after it would be moved to go with the last slider changed
04:27:057 (9) - delete this and move 04:27:132 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - over to fill in the gap done
also if u do that 04:26:982 (8,1) - gap is too big Fixed
and youd have to move this timing point 04:27:282 - back to go with the slider
and have this end on the big white tick 04:27:957 (4) - Yeah did all this, ty
04:38:457 (7) - sv too small doesnt rly go with the stream distancing Fixed
04:51:057 (1,1,1) - 5% vol hitsounds are unrankable so make then like 15 or something Fixed

gl with this /w/

bezbashn wrote:

I'm realy surprised by your work on this map tho.
Since I'm a newbie, my mod can't be compared with your's. You've done a really great job. Thx again !
[Cyphisonic]
This mod is mostly concetrated on hard samples and mapping
01:26:757 - Maybe a new combo to read better ? Done
02:34:257 - Almost the same problem as down below, but I dont know how to make it better. I think i like them like this, the music is pretty calm and it suits the music.
02:53:457 - Those look very boring I think. Try to make first 8 notes into a slider, theh 8 regular notes. Repeat that 4 times I changed to using single notes here because the beat got a bit more intense and using single notes slightly emphasises the slight increase in music intensity. So ill leave it as it is.
02:58:257 - ^ Same
04:53:907 - Same problem as in the second one Im going to leave this one too since i believe it fits the music

gl with getting this ranked !

1. 00:19:957 - unnecessary timing point
2. 00:19:857 (1,2) - blanket can be better
3. 00:21:957 (1,2) - maybe make it symmetrical? or make (1) and beginning of (2) so they would be a straight line
4. 00:23:007 (1,2) - blanket
5. 00:24:057 (1,2,3,4) - consider making 2 sliders instead to introduce player to the melody because this is hard to read due to incosistent ds
6. 00:24:657 (1,2) - blanket
7. 00:25:707 (1,2) - ^
8. 00:26:757 (1,2) - ^ (i think this would be helpful)
9. 00:30:507 (1,2) - not good
10. 00:32:607 (1,2) - ^
11. 00:53:457 (1,2) - align
12. 01:09:807 (7) - i just don't like most of these sliders, i think they could be better
13. 01:43:557 (3) - not there ples
14. 01:46:257 (1) - more like this maybe?
15. 02:07:107 (3,4,5,6,7) - make it straight