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scrain8
Currently I am using a Steelseries Sensei Raw Rubberized. After 3 years with it the rubber has worn off where i grip it. Especially where my pinky rests. Consequently my hand and fingers starts to slide down and off of the mouse. It goes from clicking with just my finger tip to the entire index finger. Mice that I am currently looking at is the Steelseries Rival and the Razer Deathadder. Those are right hand specific mice though. So compared to a ambidextrious mouse which would generally be better.

Also I may invest in a tablet but i want to get pretty proficient on mouse play.
Seat Ibiza TDI
Razer taipan would be a good choice.
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scrain8

dat boi waffle wrote:

Razer taipan would be a good choice.
Hmm I didn't even consider that. How is it for sweaty hands?
Paneiru
If you want something similar to what you're using at the moment, have a look at DM1 pro S or the nixeus revel which have approximately the same shape as the sensei raw (basically clones). I'm currently using the DM1 pro S and I'm very happy with it. They only have sidebuttons on the left side as well for right handed persons. The only drawback about the mouse is that they don't have any dedicated software at all, so you're locked to using the presets (i've always been using the 800 dpi step so I don't mind not having any kind of software), and the DM1 pro S got a braided cable that can be a bit too stiff compared to the rubberized cable from the nixeus revel (however I've been using a mouse bungee with the DM1 pro S and have no problems with cable tugging). Both mouses uses the optical PMW3360 sensor which is one of the best in the market at the moment, so the performance will be considerably better than your current sensei raw which uses a laser sensor.
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scrain8

Paneiru wrote:

If you want something similar to what you're using at the moment, have a look at DM1 pro S or the nixeus revel which have approximately the same shape as the sensei raw (basically clones). I'm currently using the DM1 pro S and I'm very happy with it. They only have sidebuttons on the left side as well for right handed persons. The only drawback about the mouse is that they don't have any dedicated software at all, so you're locked to using the presets (i've always been using the 800 dpi step so I don't mind not having any kind of software), and the DM1 pro S got a braided cable that can be a bit too stiff compared to the rubberized cable from the nixeus revel (however I've been using a mouse bungee with the DM1 pro S and have no problems with cable tugging). Both mouses uses the optical PMW3360 sensor which is one of the best in the market at the moment, so the performance will be considerably better than your current sensei raw which uses a laser sensor.
I'll also put that on the list to check out. But recently playing with the sensei i feel like the shape is not right for me. But at the same time my grip ever so slightly changed in the past 4 months.
TakuMii
I'd honestly avoid the Taipan, or any laser mouse, for that matter. Optical mice are generally more reliable for anything that requires fast and accurate movement, and with all the newer gaming mice coming out with PMW3310, PMW3360, or PMW3366 sensors, it's hard to go wrong.

I personally prefer mice with basic ambidextrous shapes, so if you're fine with that, look into the Skydigital NMouse4k/Zalman ZM-M600R (both are same mouse. They have an older ADNS-3090 sensor, but is very inexpensive and stills performs solidly), or maybe the Logitech G102/G Pro (both the same mouse but G102 has a cheaper low-power sensor).

If you're looking for a right-handed mouse, I'd go with one of the mice that Paneiru suggested (DM1 Pro S or Nixeus Revel), or a Logitech G403, or maybe one of the Mionix 7000 mice. I personally wouldn't go with Steelseries at this point as their rubber grips wear down notoriously fast, and I'd also avoid Razer as their software is a pain to deal with. There are also a handful of other great mice on the market to look at, so it's not a bad idea to keep yourself open to mice besides the suggestions posted here (...as long as you don't go for a mouse with a laser sensor :P).
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scrain8

TakuMii wrote:

I'd honestly avoid the Taipan, or any laser mouse, for that matter. Optical mice are generally more reliable for anything that requires fast and accurate movement, with all the newer gaming mice coming out with PMW3310, PMW3360, or PMW3366 sensors, it's hard to go wrong.

I personally prefer mice with basic ambidextrous shapes, so if you're fine with that, look into the Skydigital NMouse4k/Zalman ZM-M600R (both are same mouse. They have an older ADNS-3090 sensor, but is very inexpensive and stills performs solidly), or maybe the Logitech G102/G Pro (both the same mouse but G102 has a cheaper low-power sensor).

If you're looking for a right-handed mouse, I'd go with one of the mice that Paneiru suggested (DM1 Pro S or Nixeus Revel), or a Logitech G403, or maybe one of the Mionix 7000 mice. I personally wouldn't go with Steelseries at this point as their rubber grips wear down notoriously fast, and I'd also avoid Razer as their software is a pain to deal with. There are also a handful of other great mice on the market to look at, so it's not a bad idea to keep yourself open to mice besides the suggestions posted here (...as long as you don't go for a mouse with a laser sensor :P).
The Steelseries sensei has been around for a long time so meh. I think i may try a right handed mouse since I got to replace this anyways. I did invest in a tablet so I get to see if I prefer that more. I'm not knowledgeable of logitech gaming mice. Always wanted to try one though.
TakuMii
I was more referring to the Steelseries Rival, which has a good sensor but terrible side grips (in my experience), but yeah, you get what I mean.

Honestly, Logitech's been ahead in the sensor game for a while. They seem to be more focused on improving the technical side of their products compared to other companies; in fact, their wireless tech has gotten so good lately that I can honestly say that their wireless mice are the only wireless mice that are even worth considering.
But as I said, if you're after a right-handed mouse, the G403 (wired or wireless, doesn't matter) would probably be the one to look for if you're going with Logitech. Their other mice are either ambidextrous, have weird designs/shapes, or are simply just a bit heavier than they should be (at least in my opinion).
Rurree
Can you give me your preferred grip, budget, and weight? The general consensus is that getting a mouse with the PMW3366, 3360, 3310, 3330, 3988, and 3989 are the best choices but everything else is based on preferences (besides the weight being above 140g).

I personally own a Zowie EC1-A, Logitech G102, and a Nixeus Revel. Any of the 3 are brilliant mice, if you want something similar to the Sensei get the Nixeus Revel, Dream Machines DM1 Pro/Pro S, or the Zowie FK1/2/1+

The Razer Deathadder and the Rival 300 are both solid choices but honestly if I were you I'd just get the G403 or the Deathadder Elite if I wanted a right handed ergonomic mouse that's for large hands.
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scrain8
@TakuMii Again I have no experience with Logitech gaming mice much less right handed ones but if I can find a show item to demo it I'll see about it. The G503 look sexy but impactical for OSU.

@Madvillain I think I use a claw grip. Budget maybe around 50-70 USD. Weight I don't really know. First mouse when I tried to get serious with OSU was Logitech M310 (3.49oz). Hated it because it was too small. Hurt my hands. Second mouse was Logitech M100 (3.17oz). It was lighter but larger in dimensions so it was more bearable but still felt a tad too small. Last mouse Steelseries Sensei(3.168oz). It was as heavy as the M100 but somewhat bigger. I had the most improvement with this. I hope thius answers your question.
You added more to my list of considerations. I wish i was able to demo them all.
TakuMii
I took "no experience" and "always wanted to try one" as meaning that you wanted to know more... But okay then.

Also, what about the G403 makes it impractical? It's not really that fancy, and the wired model is fairly lightweight. (unless you're referring to the G502, which is actually a pretty heavy mouse and I wouldn't recommend it)
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scrain8
Lol sorry if my wording is horrible. Also i was refering to the G502
Xyrus_old_1
G502 is an amazing mouse for a lot of games, including osu!, the heavy weight is only a downside if you prefer lighter mice. I wouldn't recommend it for a left-handed player though
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assuming you're left-handed
Llahmah 2
I like g502, but it's right handed and also rather large. If you want one just for osu! maybe go for something else but If you want a good all around mouse it isn't heavy, people are just weak.
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scrain8
@Xyrus Well i feel like a heavier mouse would be nicer for stability purposes. But I can't really say since my current mouse is only 3.16oz.

@Llahmah Thats a good point. Do I want it only for OSU.
Rurree
I think you should definitely get the G403. Perfect for those with medium to large hands and claw grip. The Zowie ZA11 is another very good choice.
Luqanted

Madvillain wrote:

I think you should definitely get the G403. Perfect for those with medium to large hands and claw grip.
i'd recommend G403
Topic Starter
scrain8
Is the grip on the sides good?
TakuMii

scrain8 wrote:

Is the grip on the sides good?
I've heard good things about the side grips, so I'd assume so. They're rubber-coated, and I doubt they'd wear down anywhere near as fast as the ones on my Rival did.

Llahmah wrote:

it isn't heavy, people are just weak.
The G502 is quite a bit heavier than pretty much every other mouse on the market (and that's without the optional weights). Also, please enlighten me about how hand strength has anything to do with the properties of kinetic physics, as well as the effect that mass has on momentum and static friction.
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scrain8
Amazon has it on sale ish. Depending on how long the sale last it may be the one. But gotta check the others as well.
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