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OLDCODEX - Dried Up Youthful Fame (TV Size) [CatchTheBeat]

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Lacrima
377 posts
Joined September 2014
Lacrima

Ah, modding Roseus' mapsets. How long has it been since the last time?
[Collab Salad]
  1. 00:01:889 (1,2) - Ah, now I understand Deif. I don't like these stacked notes at the same place, so I think it's a good idea to move (1) to at least x120
  2. 00:26:844 (6,1) - Why it's not a dash, when there's hugh vocals + downbeat? maybe you should make one
  3. 00:39:662 (3,1) - Yes, I am not a fan of ambiguous distances, but I think it's too overdone. Decrease the distance a little bit
  4. 00:54:117 (3,4) - Is this supposed to be fun to catch?... I think it's a good idea to CTRL H (4) and then move it to x180, also making it gorizontal. This is how it supposed to be like
[Collab Platter]
  1. 00:59:366 (6,7,8,1) - :?:
  2. 01:03:799 (2,1) -; 01:04:889 (2,3) - Missing dash?
  3. 01:15:526 (5,1,2) - Hey Ascendance, I thought you know RC :^) You might wanna remove this antiflow hdash, since it's unrankable in platters
[Collab Rain]
  1. 00:13:071 (2) - Just move some grids left, feels really tricky
  2. 00:19:208 (4) - ^
  3. 00:30:799 (3) - some grids to right?
  4. 00:43:208 (4) - aaaa
  5. Roseus, I think it's a good idea to follow Ascendance's distance in dashes. Tbh, they seems to be a lot better than yours, since your dense dashes are making this rain pretty tricky
[Collab Overdose]
  1. 00:11:708 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I am getting tired while going through all diffs. Maybe you want to turn them into something more interesting? They seems to be really easy compared to other patterns in your part
good stuff
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DeletedUser_6709840
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Will get to these mods when computer is not dying. Thank you
DeletedUser_6709840
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Garrarti

Collab overdose
00:04:071- 00:04:549- I think the first part of the stream should be a three sound branch instead of the second one, or both should be 4-circle branches. ( I think the rhythm is fine )
00:32:435 This jump is a bit weirdly placed. ( It's emphasis on the “Wa” vocal )

00:52:821 this sound was very remarkable for me because it plays weird.
01:19:480- 01:19:889- Could have been triangles. It would be a lot more fun imo.
Had to go really into the details, because this map is almost perfect. You guys did a great job with this one. Maybe there's too many hypers in one place which makes it easier eventhough the SR goes higher. (If I really want to be pecky)

Collab Rain
00:11:162and 00:13:208these two patterns feel weird to play. It gives you the feeling of pressing again the dash eventhough it is unnecessary. (The dashing puts the emphasis on the guitar sounds, so I believe it's necessary)
00:43:208- ^ (Emphasis on the vocal here and to give the player a bit of a challenge, no change )
00:07:889- This jump has the feeling of PUPA, which is not good. ( … I have never played that map so I don't know what you're talking about )
00:12:799- Travel might be too high ( You're right )

01:17:571- Travel might be too low

The spacings are weird sometimes.

Collab Platter
Until around 00:20:162- there are lots of uncalled mini-dash jumps here and there. Platter players would struggle with this too much. ( Can you please copy paste notes in the editor when you're giving an example of what to fix? Otherwise I have no idea what you're talking about ;-; )

00:46:617- This circle and the triangle slider after it is pretty harsh for a platter player. A bit awkwardly spaced

01:07:071These backwards jumps are too hard for the platter player, don't you think?

This diff is too hard for a platter player. This diff is pretty close to a rain. (Most of the harder stuff is in Ascendance's half since I tried to nerf this several times)

MYLE

Ah, modding Roseus' mapsets. How long has it been since the last time? ( Been awhile, fam )

Collab Salad
00:01:889 (1,2)- Ah, now I understand Deif. I don't like these stacked notes at the same place, so I think it's a good idea to move (1) to at least x120 ( Fixed )
00:26:844 (6,1)- Why it's not a dash, when there's hugh vocals + downbeat? maybe you should make one ( Done )
00:39:662 (3,1)- Yes, I am not a fan of ambiguous distances, but I think it's too overdone. Decrease the distance a little bit ( Fixed )

00:54:117 (3,4)- Is this supposed to be fun to catch?... I think it's a good idea to CTRL H (4) and then move it to x180, also making it gorizontal. This is how it supposed to be like


Collab Platter
00:59:366 (6,7,8,1)- 
01:03:799 (2,1)-; 01:04:889 (2,3)- Missing dash?
01:15:526 (5,1,2)- Hey Ascendance, I thought you know RC :^) You might wanna remove this antiflow hdash, since it's unrankable in platters


Collab Rain
00:13:071 (2)- Just move some grids left, feels really tricky ( Done )
00:19:208 (4)- ^ ( Done )
00:30:799 (3)- some grids to right? ( Done )
00:43:208 (4)- aaaa ( Done )
Roseus, I think it's a good idea to follow Ascendance's distance in dashes. Tbh, they seems to be a lot better than yours, since your dense dashes are making this rain pretty tricky (I'll consider it but I do want the Rain to be a bit more difficult. I need more opinions)


Collab Overdose
00:11:708 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8)- I am getting tired while going through all diffs. Maybe you want to turn them into something more interesting? They seems to be really easy compared to other patterns in your part (It's supposed to be after the streams before hand, the music isn't that emphasized here anyway)

good stuff Thank you so much for modding
Sorry for the long wait for replies, time to cash in on m4ms i've been waiting for. Thank you all
Shirokane Rinko
150 posts
Joined December 2016
Shirokane Rinko
  • [Cup]
  1. 00:22:617 (1) - remove the slider and at the start slider put a note, I think it would be better for games and map view
  2. 01:02:980 (2) - maybe a bit closer to (1) I think it hard for newbie player

    It`s all, good diff!
  • [Salad]
  1. 00:08:162 (5) - I think it`s will better x:233
  2. 00:18:253 (1) - How in first on cup

    Too good diff
  • [Platter]
  1. 00:50:435 (6) - NC here and delete NC 00:50:844 (1) - here and on (6) you can make Hdash on a lyrics
  2. 00:56:980 (5) - more spacing lyrics
  3. 01:01:889 (1) - ^
  4. 01:16:071 (1) - NC not here - 01:15:526 (5) - here. It`s begin of lyrics part and you can make hdash jump to (5)
Sorry me, I can`t modding rain and overdose ;w;
Nice map, good luck with ranking!
Ascendance
Elite Mapper
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Joined July 2013
Ascendance
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Shirokane Rinko wrote:

  • [Cup]
  1. 00:22:617 (1) - remove the slider and at the start slider put a note, I think it would be better for games and map view 'Id miss a strong sound if i did that
  2. 01:02:980 (2) - maybe a bit closer to (1) I think it hard for newbie player It's pretty even spaced, its fine

    It`s all, good diff!
  • [Salad]
  1. 00:08:162 (5) - I think it`s will better x:233 That would get rid of the dash
  2. 00:18:253 (1) - How in first on cup Following the vocal

    Too good diff

Sorry me, I can`t modding rain and overdose ;w;
Nice map, good luck with ranking!
Thanks for the mod, sorry for late reply.

Waiting on Ascendance
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Firetruck waiting for Ascendance, I'm applying for him

Sinnoh wrote:

Rain

00:47:435 (6) - add hdashes around here, 5,6 or 6,1 Done
01:20:435 (1,2) - increase spacing here, better catcher drift to the right Done
01:23:708 (1) - curve this for better flow from 3 Tilted it instead

Overdose

01:25:685 (2) - use a different pattern from rain

celerih wrote:

00:46:071 - Missing some pretty important drums and vocals here Added
01:24:117 (2) - The vocal here kinda continues so this would be better as a slider that ends on 01:24:117 (2) - Added
01:24:389 (3,1) - Should be an hdash Made it a dash

gaaraati wrote:

Overdose

00:52:821 this sound was very remarkable for me because it plays weird. what should i do to fix it?
01:19:480 - 01:19:889 - Could have been triangles. It would be a lot more fun imo. I don't think so
Had to go really into the details, because this map is almost perfect. You guys did a great job with this one. Maybe there's too many hypers in one place which makes it easier eventhough the SR goes higher. (If I really want to be pecky)

Rain

01:17:571 - Travel might be too low its fine
Okay, that should be everything that Ascendance needed to do, gonna do my M4M and then try to push this for rank
wonjae
762 posts
Joined October 2014
wonjae
updated salad
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wonjae
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Joined October 2014
wonjae
m4m (insert fruit modding union)

honestly, since both you and ascendance have very solid grounds of structure in mapping there isnt really much wrong in the set. heres a couple (literally in most diffs) of things i have problems with

cup
00:14:844 (1) - make this a 3/2 slider instead of 2/1 so it fits the vocals more accurately and to be consistent with 00:17:026 (1) -

00:39:526 (2) - sounds better if you move this slider to 00:39:389 .

salad
00:04:071 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - there should be a dash to this stream imo, how about making it more vertical and putting a dash

00:39:389 (2,3,1) - at such high of a bpm, having two dashes close together here can be really hard for the player. i would maybe try to remap so that there is only a dash to 00:40:071 (1).

plater
00:02:299 (2,3) - i am against the idea of having a dash here because i think it is uneeded.

01:25:685 (2,3,4,5) - make this a hyper since its the last stream and for the guitar noise.

rain
00:02:571 (6,7) - is there really a reason for a hyper here, i get the ones before but this kinda feels unessesary.

01:03:799 (3,1) - there should be a hyper here?

01:06:253 (1,1) - there are alot of sounds emphasized here that i think might be intresting if mapped. your choice though.
Sanyi
236 posts
Joined November 2015
Sanyi

Paranoid Grapes wrote:

01:25:685 (2,3,4,5) - make this a hyper since its the last stream and for the guitar noise. Ok did it but I made it a 1/2 hyper because I don't want to introduce 1/4 hypers with the very last hyper, which means I deleted 01:25:821 (4) - .
Thanks for modding!

@Roseus here is the Platter updated with my change, so please update it with my change included when you apply the rest.

Collab Platter
osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 48253
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 2
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 45526
DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 2

[Metadata]
Title:Dried Up Youthful Fame (TV Size)
TitleUnicode:Dried Up Youthful Fame (TV Size)
Artist:OLDCODEX
ArtistUnicode:OLDCODEX
Creator:RoseusJaeger
Version:Collab Platter
Source:Free!-Eternal Summer-
Tags:iwatobi swim club season 2 kyoani kyoto animation Ascendance Paranoid Grapes Sanyi
BeatmapID:1154583
BeatmapSetID:544889

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CircleSize:3.5
OverallDifficulty:8.2
ApproachRate:8.2
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DeletedUser_6709840
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6709840
Applied Sanyi's changes

Now for my applications

cup
00:14:844 (1)- make this a 3/2 slider instead of 2/1 so it fits the vocals more accurately and to be consistent with 00:17:026 (1)-  ( Done )

00:39:526 (2)- sounds better if you move this slider to 00:39:389. ( Done )

salad
00:04:071 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7)- there should be a dash to this stream imo, how about making it more vertical and putting a dash ( I think the exaggerated walk reflects the song better )

00:39:389 (2,3,1)- at such high of a bpm, having two dashes close together here can be really hard for the player. i would maybe try to remap so that there is only a dash to 00:40:071 (1). ( Yeah true, done. I was trying to put emphasis on the vocal but it works without too. )

plater
00:02:299 (2,3)- i am against the idea of having a dash here because i think it is uneeded. ( You're right, repatterned )

rain
00:02:571 (6,7)- is there really a reason for a hyper here, i get the ones before but this kinda feels unessesary. ( Fixed )

01:03:799 (3,1)- there should be a hyper here? ( I tried to add one )

01:06:253 (1,1)- there are alot of sounds emphasized here that i think might be intresting if mapped. your choice though. (I don't know why Ascendance mapped that the way he did, fixed)

Thanks fam, time for BNs to rip this to shreads.
Xinnoh
Elite Mapper
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Joined April 2014
Xinnoh
General
00:04:071 (1) - Streams really aren’t following those finishes
00:04:139 (2) - I really can’t hear any sounds that would justify a long ¼ stream, just use the rhythm from one of the extras on flourite’s set.
00:31:208 (5) - why is there a finish here, heck why is there a note here.

Platter
00:03:389 (4,5,6,7) - 5 has more emphasis than 7 *blobsweat*
I modded platter last xd, enough for now for me

Rain
00:02:571 (6,7,8) - Seems pretty hard to catch but there’s very little going on in the music. Having no hyper would fit better.
00:09:526 (1,2) - Seems like there’s a couple sounds on slider tails, since there’s not much sound to follow on 00:09:935 (2) -, https://puu.sh/yVuGP/bdc620e595.png probably fits better.
00:13:480 (4,5) - Song just repeats itself from 00:12:799 (1,2) - , so it would be better to use the same pattern each time. Ctrl-g rhythm follows the sound on 00:13:617 - better.
00:15:662 (5,6) - Tail is hard to reach since the jump from 5 to 6 is somewhat large, reduce distance a bit
00:16:071 (1,2,3) - Distance is too high for the copy paste on 2,3 to work. Because the dash from 1 to 2 is big, slider 2 plays really differently to slider 3. Reduce distance or change to a different pattern for this to work.
00:23:026 (3,4) - Vocal is kinda vague if it starts on the red or white tick, I think this should be changed to circle + slider with the same pattern to compensate for it.
00:26:162 (2,3,4) - Spacing is kinda eh here.1,2 has a large jump and not much to emphasise, 2,3 is a medium jump but 3,4 is a walk and you miss if you dash, but 4 has two snares on it that are pretty strong. I’d suggest to move 3 over to 2 to emphasise the drums on 4.
00:27:935 (5,1) - Can’t really hear any sound to justify a hyperdash
00:29:571 (2,3) - Could change these to two ½ sliders to show the difference from 00:29:162 (1) - , imo follows vocal better since its keeping vocals on slider heads.
00:30:799 (3,4) - You could ctrl-g 4 and remove the hyperdash here to show that the pitch is decreasing, different movement for different sound
00:41:162 (1) - Not horizontal enough to be walkable, but not vertical enough to make the player realise they need to stop. I’d suggest making it more vertical so it’s clearer what the player does.
00:44:435 (1) - Slider just plays as an L shape :/ could be more curvy, you could probably add some curves
00:46:071 (5) - Really underemphasised sound since it’s the buildup to the kiai, would give a hyper or something
00:46:208 (6,1) - edge dash lol
00:48:117 (6) - Make this more vertical, tail is pretty far away for a ¼ snap.

Overdose
00:01:208 (2,3) - No need for hyper, removing it emphasises 00:01:753 (4,1) - ‘s hyper better.
00:28:344 (2) - Really wouldn’t suggest doing the ¾ slider, kinda interrupts the rhythm of the rest of the map and highlights a vocal that isn’t too important
00:31:889 (3,4) - Distance here is too small.
00:31:344 (1) - Just this section in general, it’d be more structured if all the sliders were just copy pastes of each other so that there would be less variation in slider lengths, as the song has that repeating guitar riff
00:33:526 (1) - Really wouldn’t use 1/1 here, makes the part after it play weird, just stick to ½
00:37:344 (3,4,1) - Didn’t feel like there was much emphasis on 1 here because 00:37:071 (2,3) - plays identical to 00:37:616 (4,1) - . Try making 00:37:889 (1) - a ctrl-g of 00:38:299 (3) - to emphasise it better.
00:42:935 (3,4) - Distance too large here
00:48:253 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - This needs more curving / movement, since it’s the high point of the song.
01:05:844 (4) - Snap this to 1/1, really un-needed to use ¼ when there’s a strong drum on ½
01:06:799 (2,3) - Can’t hear anything to justify triple, would just be more sensible to follow vocal. This pattern would be cool https://puu.sh/yVvnw/9113356c64.png
01:11:571 (4,1) - Under-emphasised finish since 3,4 is same distance.
01:20:162 (5,1) - ^
01:16:208 (2) - Adding a C curve would make the droplets more comfortable to play
01:25:685 (2) - Rotating this 90 degrees clockwise would add some nice movement to emphasise each individual drum
DeletedUser_6709840
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DeletedUser_6709840

Sinnoh wrote:

General
00:04:071 (1) - Streams really aren’t following those finishes Fixed streams with new pattern
00:04:139 (2) - I really can’t hear any sounds that would justify a long ¼ stream, just use the rhythm from one of the extras on flourite’s set. Fixed
00:31:208 (5) - why is there a finish here, heck why is there a note here. Removed the Finish but there's a soft sound there in the build up

Platter
00:03:389 (4,5,6,7) - 5 has more emphasis than 7 *blobsweat* ??? They're equally spaced, neither one of them has more emphasis
I modded platter last xd, enough for now for me

Rain
00:02:571 (6,7,8) - Seems pretty hard to catch but there’s very little going on in the music. Having no hyper would fit better. The hyper is for consistency, it's needed
00:09:526 (1,2) - Seems like there’s a couple sounds on slider tails, since there’s not much sound to follow on 00:09:935 (2) -, https://puu.sh/yVuGP/bdc620e595.png probably fits better. I don't agree
00:13:480 (4,5) - Song just repeats itself from 00:12:799 (1,2) - , so it would be better to use the same pattern each time. Ctrl-g rhythm follows the sound on 00:13:617 - better. I think this is a bit subjective but i changed so you have to dash through the pattern instead.
00:15:662 (5,6) - Tail is hard to reach since the jump from 5 to 6 is somewhat large, reduce distance a bit (moved a pixel )
00:16:071 (1,2,3) - Distance is too high for the copy paste on 2,3 to work. Because the dash from 1 to 2 is big, slider 2 plays really differently to slider 3. Reduce distance or change to a different pattern for this to work. (reduced)
00:23:026 (3,4) - Vocal is kinda vague if it starts on the red or white tick, I think this should be changed to circle + slider with the same pattern to compensate for it. ( Doesn't make much of a difference but did something )
00:26:162 (2,3,4) - Spacing is kinda eh here.1,2 has a large jump and not much to emphasise, 2,3 is a medium jump but 3,4 is a walk and you miss if you dash, but 4 has two snares on it that are pretty strong. I’d suggest to move 3 over to 2 to emphasise the drums on 4. ( i added dashes to fix it )
00:27:935 (5,1) - Can’t really hear any sound to justify a hyperdash ( fixed )
00:29:571 (2,3) - Could change these to two ½ sliders to show the difference from 00:29:162 (1) - , imo follows vocal better since its keeping vocals on slider heads. I disagree
00:30:799 (3,4) - You could ctrl-g 4 and remove the hyperdash here to show that the pitch is decreasing, different movement for different sound ( But what about the build up in the song? It completely ruins that if i do that)
00:41:162 (1) - Not horizontal enough to be walkable, but not vertical enough to make the player realise they need to stop. I’d suggest making it more vertical so it’s clearer what the player does. (made more vertical )
00:44:435 (1) - Slider just plays as an L shape :/ could be more curvy, you could probably add some curves I did that on purpuse
00:46:071 (5) - Really underemphasised sound since it’s the buildup to the kiai, would give a hyper or something
00:46:208 (6,1) - edge dash lol Fixed
00:48:117 (6) - Make this more vertical, tail is pretty far away for a ¼ snap. Done

Overdose
00:01:208 (2,3) - No need for hyper, removing it emphasises 00:01:753 (4,1) - ‘s hyper better.( ok )
00:28:344 (2) - Really wouldn’t suggest doing the ¾ slider, kinda interrupts the rhythm of the rest of the map and highlights a vocal that isn’t too important Whatever, done
00:31:889 (3,4) - Distance here is too small. Increased
00:31:344 (1) - Just this section in general, it’d be more structured if all the sliders were just copy-pastes of each other so that there would be less variation in slider lengths, as the song has that repeating guitar riff Really doesnt matter, not aiming for charts level quality
00:33:526 (1) - Really wouldn’t use 1/1 here, makes the part after it play weird, just stick to ½ I disagree, i really don't see the issue if it follows the vocal correctly
00:37:344 (3,4,1) - Didn’t feel like there was much emphasis on 1 here because 00:37:071 (2,3) - plays identical to 00:37:616 (4,1) - . Try making 00:37:889 (1) - a ctrl-g of 00:38:299 (3) - to emphasise it better. Literally is subjective, makes no difference imo
00:42:935 (3,4) - Distance too large here Fixed
00:48:253 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - This needs more curving / movement, since it’s the high point of the song. Done
01:05:844 (4) - Snap this to 1/1, really un-needed to use ¼ when there’s a strong drum on ½ Done
01:06:799 (2,3) - Can’t hear anything to justify triple, would just be more sensible to follow vocal. This pattern would be cool https://puu.sh/yVvnw/9113356c64.png
01:11:571 (4,1) - Under-emphasised finish since 3,4 is same distance. (added hyper )
01:20:162 (5,1) - ^
01:16:208 (2) - Adding a C curve would make the droplets more comfortable to play Done
01:25:685 (2) - Rotating this 90 degrees clockwise would add some nice movement to emphasise each individual drum Did something similar
Thanks fam, hope you come around for a recheck
Hareimu
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18:39 Hareimu: boop
18:40 *RoseusJaeger is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/732362 OLDCODEX - Dried Up Youthful Fame (TV Size)]
19:21 *Hareimu is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1154581 OLDCODEX - Dried Up Youthful Fame (TV Size) [Collab Cup]] <CatchTheBeat>
19:23 RoseusJaeger: ok ready
19:23 Hareimu: 00:05:162 (5) - you're missing a NC here
19:23 Hareimu: actually
19:24 Hareimu: 00:06:253 (1) - remove nc, 00:07:344 (5) - add nc, 00:08:435 (1) - remove nc
19:24 Hareimu: 00:04:071 (1) - remove too
19:25 Hareimu: you should keep a consistent pace for nc placement
19:25 Hareimu: 00:20:435 (3) - I'd prefer to see this slider as a 3/2 one
19:25 Hareimu: a.k.a. end 00:20:844 - here instead of 00:20:708 - here
19:26 Hareimu: it follows the vocals and the drums better like that tbh
19:26 Hareimu: 00:19:344 (1) - remove nc, add it 00:20:435 (3) - here instead and then remove 00:21:253 (1) - here
19:27 RoseusJaeger: osu crashed
19:27 Hareimu: eeee
19:28 Hareimu: did you lose the whole thing?
19:28 RoseusJaeger: i think i did
19:28 Hareimu: did you apply any of it
19:28 RoseusJaeger: i was applying the NCs and then it crashed
19:28 Hareimu: you didn't save then
19:28 RoseusJaeger: i dont think so
19:29 RoseusJaeger: so yeah, osu cucked me
19:29 Hareimu: want me to resend everything? I still have all the previous messages
19:29 RoseusJaeger: yes pls
19:29 Hareimu: 00:05:162 (5) - you're missing a NC here
19:29 RoseusJaeger: got it
19:29 Hareimu: 00:04:071 (1) - remove nc here
19:30 RoseusJaeger: done
19:30 Hareimu: 00:06:253 (1) - remove here
19:30 Hareimu: 00:07:344 (3) - add here
19:30 Hareimu: 00:08:435 (1) - remove here
19:30 RoseusJaeger: completed
19:30 Hareimu: 00:19:344 (1) - remove here
19:30 Hareimu: 00:20:435 (3) - this could be a 3/2 slider instead
19:30 Hareimu: and have NC too
19:31 RoseusJaeger: done
19:31 Hareimu:  00:21:253 (1) - remove nc
19:31 RoseusJaeger: ok
19:31 Hareimu: 00:44:435 (3,1) - switch NCs
19:32 RoseusJaeger: done
19:32 Hareimu:  00:46:617 (3) - add here
19:32 RoseusJaeger: done
19:32 Hareimu: 00:48:253 (1) - finishing the slider on an important note is really offputting
19:33 Hareimu: you could finish it 00:48:389 - here and add a note with nc 00:48:662 - here
19:34 Hareimu: did you crash again
19:34 Hareimu: please save before you crash again
19:34 RoseusJaeger: no, im still here
19:34 RoseusJaeger: saved
19:35 RoseusJaeger: i've applied all so far
19:35 Hareimu: don't forget to remove the NC from the new 1/2 slider 00:48:253 (1) - here
19:35 Hareimu: since the NC is already 00:48:662 - here
19:36 RoseusJaeger: no problem, done
19:36 Hareimu: 00:56:980 (1) - same issue as before
19:36 Hareimu: slider goes over a really important beat
19:36 Hareimu: you could make it finish 00:57:117 - here, and then add a 3/2 slider starting from 00:57:389 - here to 00:57:799 - here
19:37 Hareimu: (and then add a NC on the 3/2 slider)
19:38 RoseusJaeger: ok, remapped so it matches there
19:39 Hareimu: 01:18:253 (4) - add nc
19:39 RoseusJaeger: done
19:39 Hareimu: 00:04:071 - 01:26:026 - useless green lines
19:40 RoseusJaeger: ok removed
19:40 Hareimu: that's it for the cup
19:41 Hareimu: you should learn about the things I've suggested thus far
19:41 RoseusJaeger: ay good
19:41 Hareimu: sliders shouldn't end on important beats
19:41 Hareimu: they should start on them instead
19:41 RoseusJaeger: those were on Ascendances part of the map
19:41 RoseusJaeger: and he abandon the map
19:41 Hareimu: and you should keep a consistent pace with the NC usage
19:42 RoseusJaeger: NCs i tried to be consistant but firetrucked up, so thank you for helping me. I never can master NCs
19:42 Hareimu: you can, actually
19:42 Hareimu: just think about it like this
19:42 Hareimu: enter the timing tab (the black one)
19:42 Hareimu: see those big white ticks?
19:43 Hareimu: those should normally have NCs
19:43 Hareimu: unless the fruits stack up too much
19:43 RoseusJaeger: yeah, i know that
19:43 Hareimu: that's a rule of thumb to follow
19:43 Hareimu: always
19:43 RoseusJaeger: ok
19:44 Hareimu: if there's not a particularly good reason to break consistency and make the NCs densier, don't do so
19:44 Hareimu: moving on
19:44 *Hareimu is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1154585 OLDCODEX - Dried Up Youthful Fame (TV Size) [Collab Salad]] <CatchTheBeat>
19:46 RoseusJaeger: im here
19:46 Hareimu: 00:04:071 (3) - add nc
19:46 RoseusJaeger: done
19:48 Hareimu: 00:23:571 (4) - same
19:48 RoseusJaeger: done
19:48 Hareimu: 00:27:799 (3,1) - switch ncs
19:48 RoseusJaeger: ok
19:49 Hareimu: 00:39:662 (3,1) - this dash is a bit too strong
19:49 Hareimu: I'd suggest to reduce the distance a bit
19:49 Hareimu: x:246 would be sweet
19:49 RoseusJaeger: done
19:50 Hareimu: 00:44:435 (3,1) - switch NCs
19:50 Hareimu: 00:46:617 (4) - add NC
19:50 Hareimu: 00:48:253 (1,3) - switch NCs (don't forget to save)
19:50 RoseusJaeger: saved
19:51 Hareimu: pretty much switch NCs between 00:49:344 (1,2) - , 00:50:435 (1,2) - ,00:51:526 (1,2) - and so on and so forth
19:51 RoseusJaeger: and done
19:51 RoseusJaeger: done
19:51 Hareimu: 00:54:117 (3) - add NC
19:52 RoseusJaeger: done
19:52 Hareimu: 00:56:980 (1,3) - switch, 00:58:071 (1,2) - switch, 00:59:162 (1,2) - switch, 01:00:253 (1,2) - switch, 01:01:344 (1,2) - switch, 01:02:708 (1,2) - switch
19:52 Hareimu: switch :^)
19:52 Hareimu: 01:06:253 (4,1) - switch too
19:53 RoseusJaeger: Grapes and his wacky NCs
19:53 RoseusJaeger: done
19:54 Hareimu: 01:14:980 (3,1) - switch as well, add NC 01:16:071 (2) - here, 01:18:253 (4,1) - switch here, 01:20:435 (4,1) - switch here too, 01:21:526 (4) - add here
19:54 Hareimu: 01:24:799 (4) - why isn't there a slider here that lasts until 01:25:889 - here as in the cup diff? it's kinda weird
19:55 RoseusJaeger: Grapes style choice, thats how he wanted to end it
19:55 Hareimu: okiedokie
19:55 Hareimu: did you apply the NC things?
19:55 RoseusJaeger: yep
19:55 Hareimu: that's it for the salad then
19:56 *Hareimu is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1154583 OLDCODEX - Dried Up Youthful Fame (TV Size) [Collab Platter]] <CatchTheBeat>
19:57 RoseusJaeger: oh boy, this is where my mapping gets wonky
19:57 Hareimu: okay.
19:57 Hareimu: I'm having a serious issue with the dense usage of normal-hitnormal here
19:58 Hareimu: starting from the kiai onwards I think I'm becoming deaf
19:58 Hareimu: why did you stop using the custom soft-hitnormal?
19:58 RoseusJaeger: how to fix
19:59 RoseusJaeger: because i used Flourites hitsounding from std
19:59 Hareimu: oh
19:59 RoseusJaeger: so idk what to tell ya, im really bad at hitsounding
20:00 Hareimu: change the sampleset on the timing points to s:c1 on all diffs
20:01 RoseusJaeger: give me a couple minutes to do that
20:01 Hareimu: and then, starting from 00:49:071 - here, add normal-hitnormals every two beats
20:01 Hareimu: that should do the trick
20:02 Hareimu: wait what the fuck
20:02 Hareimu: you don't even need to add normal-hitnormals
20:02 Hareimu: just change the samplesets to s:c1 on all diffs
20:02 Hareimu: and it's pretty much done
20:03 RoseusJaeger: ok, that should do it
20:03 Hareimu: remember to save and stuff
20:03 Hareimu: tell me if it sounds better like this
20:03 RoseusJaeger: saved
20:03 Hareimu: because I really think it does
20:04 RoseusJaeger: sounds a little bit better
20:04 Hareimu: it's not as grating as it was before
20:04 Hareimu: so yeah
20:04 Hareimu: back onto the diff
20:05 Hareimu: 00:29:571 (2) - shouldn't this slider finish at 00:29:844 - ?
20:06 RoseusJaeger: probably, i fixed it for sanyi
20:06 Hareimu: 00:43:617 (1) - remove NC
20:06 RoseusJaeger: you sure on that one?
20:06 RoseusJaeger: long ass combo on the stream
20:07 Hareimu: it's better than having the catcher clear when catching just two fruits
20:07 RoseusJaeger: ok
20:07 Hareimu: 00:43:889 (6) - you could add a nc here if it's still an issue for you
20:08 RoseusJaeger: naw, i can let it slide
20:08 Hareimu: 00:52:889 (4,1) - it's weird not having a hyper between these
20:08 Hareimu: you've been having a hyper every two measures
20:09 Hareimu: 00:55:208 (4,1) - same here
20:10 RoseusJaeger: added
20:11 Hareimu: 01:08:299 (1,2,3) - this is really weird looking
20:11 Hareimu: try making them horizontal so that they're not stacked like this
20:11 Hareimu: 01:12:662 (1,2,3) - same
20:13 RoseusJaeger: for the first one, i made slider 2 horizontal but kept the first one for style and did the same on the second suggestion
20:13 Hareimu: 01:20:162 (3) - finishing slider on an important sound is bad
20:13 RoseusJaeger: im trying to keep the style Sanyi was going for the follow the softer guitar there
20:14 Hareimu: especially on a downbeat
20:14 RoseusJaeger: any rhythm suggestions you have for there, because im baffled what to do there
20:16 Hareimu: turn 01:20:162 (3) - into a 1/2 slider
20:17 Hareimu: horizontally pointing to the right
20:17 Hareimu: move it to x:310
20:17 Hareimu: 01:20:435 - add note with new combo here, possibly being emphasized with a hyper from 01:20:162 (3) - 
20:17 Hareimu: 01:20:571 (1) - remove NC from this note
20:18 RoseusJaeger: ok
20:18 Hareimu: you could place the note 01:20:435 - here at x:169
20:18 Hareimu: and then rearrange 01:20:571 (1,2,3,4,5) - 
20:19 Hareimu: the weird thing is that this thing is done correctly 01:24:526 (3) - here for some reason
20:19 Hareimu: lmao
20:19 RoseusJaeger: lol, all fixed
20:22 Hareimu: moving on
20:22 *Hareimu is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1154584 OLDCODEX - Dried Up Youthful Fame (TV Size) [Collab Rain]] <CatchTheBeat>
20:22 Hareimu: 00:05:980 (4,1,2) - wot
20:22 RoseusJaeger: ay
20:23 RoseusJaeger: ?
20:23 Hareimu: what is that hyperchain
20:23 Hareimu: why is it a hyperchain
20:23 Hareimu: a.k.a. 00:06:253 (1) - move this to x:163
20:23 RoseusJaeger: its for emphasis on the downbeat and the guitat
20:23 Hareimu: 00:07:344 (1) - you didn't do it heere
20:24 Hareimu: 00:05:162 (1) - or here
20:24 Hareimu: so why do it there all of a sudden?
20:25 RoseusJaeger: idk, i guess i'll fix
20:26 Hareimu: remember it's a rain, not an overdose
20:26 Hareimu: hyperchains should be used on an overdose
20:26 RoseusJaeger: i've seen Deif do those in Rains :p
20:26 Hareimu: yeah but deif is a special case
20:26 RoseusJaeger: whatever, its fixed because of consistency
20:26 Hareimu: and not because somebody else does it does it mean you can do it too :P
20:26 Hareimu: I mean
20:27 Hareimu: deif probably did it on myosotis
20:27 Hareimu: I think
20:27 RoseusJaeger: he did it on Force of Ra, if i remember correctly
20:27 Hareimu: ah
20:27 Hareimu: but that case is an exception since the instruments he's emphasizing are equally as strong and deserving of a hyper
20:27 Hareimu: here it's not the case
20:27 RoseusJaeger: ok, lets move on then
20:28 Hareimu: 00:05:162 - is obviously stronger than 00:05:299 - since it's also supported by a cymbal
20:28 Hareimu: but anyway
20:28 Hareimu: 00:22:480 (7,1,2) - same with this
20:28 Hareimu: (2) is deserving of a dash at most, but not a hyper IMO
20:29 RoseusJaeger: made it a dash
20:30 Hareimu: 00:26:980 (1,2,3) - same, (2) should deserve the hyperdash, (3) shouldn't since it doesn't have a strong drum sound supporting it like (2) has
20:30 Hareimu: a.k.a. move 00:27:253 (2) - to x:340 or something like that
20:31 RoseusJaeger: ok
20:32 Hareimu: 00:40:753 (4,1,2) -  in this pattern (1) can be easily overshot since (2) is at its left side
20:32 Hareimu: I appreciate the fact that you're not using constant left-right-left-right patterns anymore here (since you've been doing so quite a lot until this point)
20:32 Hareimu: but yeah
20:34 RoseusJaeger: ok, tried to fix
20:47 Hareimu: 01:23:708 (1,2) - explain to me why did you emphasize the head of (2) but not the strong vocal at 01:24:526 - here
20:49 Hareimu: you should turn (2) into a repeat slider and turn (3) into a note
20:50 Hareimu: and emphasize that note
20:50 Hareimu: a.k.a. hyper into (2) and into (3) too
20:53 RoseusJaeger: should be fixed now
20:53 Hareimu: kk
20:53 *Hareimu is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1154582 OLDCODEX - Dried Up Youthful Fame (TV Size) [Collab Overdose]] <CatchTheBeat>
20:54 RoseusJaeger: this diff is probs a trainwreck
20:54 Hareimu: 00:02:571 (6,7,1) - why the hyperchain though
20:56 RoseusJaeger: fixed, it's a dash+hyper now
20:56 Hareimu: pretty much only half of the diff is okay-ish
20:56 Hareimu: the first half... I don't even know where to start to be honest
20:57 RoseusJaeger: the diff was originally mapped at CS 3.8 tbh
20:57 Hareimu: I'll base myself off a single pattern to give you an idea of what is wrong with the rest of the diff
20:57 Hareimu: 00:13:208 (3,4,5) - 
20:58 Hareimu: the tail of (4) is what should be emphasized with a hyper, not the head of it
20:58 Hareimu: the guitar riff is at its tail
20:58 Hareimu: I really recommend you to turn 4 into a note and then add a 1/2 slider next
20:58 Hareimu: a.k.a. pretty much ctrl+g 00:13:480 (4,5) - and then rearrange
20:59 RoseusJaeger: hold on
20:59 Hareimu: 00:19:753 (3) - there is no sound under the blue tick this slider ends at
21:00 Hareimu: 00:35:026 (3,4,5) - I don't understand why this is a hyperchain or what it's emphasizing exactly
21:02 RoseusJaeger: i repatterned a bit and hope it's fixed
21:03 Hareimu: which of all the ones I said are you talking about
21:03 RoseusJaeger: the blue tick i fixed by making it a note instead and removed the hyperchain
21:04 RoseusJaeger: i can update map so you can see
21:04 Hareimu: I'd prefer to go on with the rest of mishaps
21:04 RoseusJaeger: ok
21:05 Hareimu: 00:07:480 (2,3,4) - the same issue as the first point
21:05 Hareimu: wrong emphasis
21:06 Hareimu: the thing that should be emphasized is 3's tail, not its heaed
21:06 Hareimu: head*
21:07 RoseusJaeger: ok
21:07 Hareimu: turn (2) into a repeat slider, add a 1/2 slider at 00:07:889 - and a hyper between both
21:07 Hareimu: that should do the trick
21:07 RoseusJaeger: alright
21:08 Hareimu: |00:10:344 (7) - move to x:213, 00:10:480 (8) - to x:300
21:09 RoseusJaeger: ok
21:10 Hareimu: 00:19:208 (4) - move to x:363, 00:19:344 (1) - move this to x:450 and make it horizontal pointing to the left, 00:19:617 (2) - place this at x:143 and 00:19:753 (3) - at x:55
21:11 Hareimu: 00:19:889 (4) - remove repeat, add a note 00:20:162 - here instead and place it at x:177
21:12 Hareimu: 00:20:299 (5) - move this to x:89 after that (it should turn into (6) since you added an object 00:20:162 - here)
21:13 RoseusJaeger: done
21:13 RoseusJaeger: and saved
21:13 Hareimu: all done?
21:13 RoseusJaeger: yes
21:14 Hareimu: 00:20:844 (2,3) - I believe these two should be emphasized with hypers instead of just dashes but that's just my opinion
21:14 RoseusJaeger: i think i'll keep as dashes
21:17 Hareimu: alright
21:18 Hareimu: 00:27:389 (2,3,4) - this is an uncomfortable pattern :c
21:19 Hareimu: maybe make 00:27:389 (2,3) - more vertical and then make 00:27:389 (2,3,4) - all these have just dashes in between?
21:19 Hareimu: that'd be better
21:20 RoseusJaeger: i did this instead http://puu.sh/ziXHn/7cc29edbab.jpg
21:21 Hareimu: that works too
21:21 Hareimu: 00:27:935 (4,1,2) - hypers should be switched here
21:21 Hareimu: (1) shouldn't be emphasized with one, 2 should
21:23 RoseusJaeger: ok
21:26 Hareimu: 00:33:935 (2,3) - ctrl+g these and place (2) at x:281 and (3) at x:64
21:26 RoseusJaeger: ok done
21:28 Hareimu: then perhaps you can make 00:34:344 (4) - vertical and place it at x:368 or so
21:29 RoseusJaeger: ok
21:29 Hareimu: wanna update now?
21:30 Hareimu: don't forget to save before
21:30 RoseusJaeger: yes
21:31 RoseusJaeger: updated
21:35 Hareimu: alright
21:35 Hareimu: lemme see rain and overdose now
21:36 RoseusJaeger: hopefully they're less garbage now
21:38 Hareimu: the rain is a lot better not
21:38 Hareimu: now*
21:39 RoseusJaeger: ayyy
21:41 Hareimu: holy shit the overdose is a lot better now too
21:41 Hareimu: did you make any other edits aside from the suggestions I made?
21:41 RoseusJaeger: i did make a couple once i saw mistakes near the previous ones
21:41 Hareimu: that's perfect
21:42 Hareimu: you should do so more often when you see stuff you don't like on your maps
21:42 RoseusJaeger: owo
21:42 Hareimu: remap often
21:42 Hareimu: until you're satisfied
21:42 Hareimu: the diff is a-ok now IMO
21:42 Hareimu: except
21:43 Hareimu: salad, platter, rain and overdose all have this 01:25:889 - useless green line here
21:43 Hareimu: it doesn't change anything
21:43 Hareimu: yet it's there
21:43 RoseusJaeger: lemme remove, hold on
21:43 Hareimu: kk
22:08 Hareimu: it seems that the soft-hitclap hitsound isn't being used
22:09 Hareimu: the soft-hitfinish has delay also
22:09 Hareimu: you should crop it using audacity
22:09 RoseusJaeger: i dont know how to use audacity
22:09 RoseusJaeger: and the hitsounds are from the ranked set
22:09 Hareimu: maybe the ranked set overlooked that?
22:09 Hareimu: dunno
22:10 RoseusJaeger: is it possible you can fix the hitfinish for me?
22:11 RoseusJaeger: i removed the clap
22:13 Hareimu: did you copy the hitsounds from the "fame" diff from her set?
22:13 RoseusJaeger: yes
22:13 Hareimu: there is your issue
22:14 Hareimu: that diff doesn't use normal-hitclap, normal-hitfinish, soft-hitclap or soft-hitfinish
22:14 Hareimu: did you rehitsound the diffs yourself after copying the hitsounds?
22:14 RoseusJaeger: no
22:15 Hareimu: :thinking:
22:15 RoseusJaeger: so, i need to remove the soft-finish too?
22:16 Hareimu: nah
22:16 Hareimu: you're using the s:c1 now, remember
22:16 Hareimu: the additions you're using are from the soft sampleset
22:16 RoseusJaeger: ok
22:16 Hareimu: not the normal
22:16 Hareimu: so the soft-hitfinish is being used
22:16 RoseusJaeger: but the soft-finish has a delay that i cant fix
22:17 Hareimu: the issue was caused because, by using n:c1 on the kiais, fdf had to resort to using drum snares on soft-hitclaps because she was using something else on normal hitclaps
22:17 Hareimu: I'll fix that for you real quick
22:17 Hareimu: just a sec
22:17 RoseusJaeger: ok
22:19 Hareimu: https://katabami.s-ul.eu/0v9IfyTs here you go
22:20 RoseusJaeger: thank you
22:20 Hareimu: yw
22:20 RoseusJaeger: any other concerns?
22:21 Hareimu: update the set and I'll check once more
22:21 RoseusJaeger: updated
22:22 Hareimu: just a sec
22:22 *Hareimu is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1154583 OLDCODEX - Dried Up Youthful Fame (TV Size)]
22:22 Hareimu: redling
22:23 Hareimu: uh, did you really delete soft-hitclap?
22:23 RoseusJaeger: yes
22:24 RoseusJaeger: this is what it displays for me http://puu.sh/ziZMZ/e0a5a02f8a.png
22:24 Hareimu: it's ok, just an issue by my side
22:24 Hareimu: it's gone now
22:25 RoseusJaeger: ok
22:26 Hareimu: nothing else found
22:26 RoseusJaeger: alright, thank you
22:26 Hareimu: that's it I guess
22:26 Hareimu: is the set mv1 or mv2?
22:26 RoseusJaeger: mv1
22:27 Hareimu: I'll post the savelog then
22:27 RoseusJaeger: ok
22:27 Hareimu: for some sweet kudosu
-Luminate
358 posts
Joined August 2014
-Luminate
Hi! From my queue
Collab Normal
  1. 00:26:844 (6,1) - too far for 1/2
  2. 00:49:753 (3) - dash
  3. 00:54:117 (1,2) - feels a little too stacked, more movement?
  4. 00:56:435 - way tooooooo empty, maybe move (3) to x:88 and change into slider that ends on 00:56:708 - ?
  5. 00:59:162 (4) - change the slider direction, or else it would make really intense dash
  6. 01:04:480 (2) - flatten this slider, seems narrow to move
  7. 01:18:935 (3,1) - too far for 1/2
  8. How about a spinner at the end?
Idk what to mod, cuz I suck at modding salad xD
Collab Platter
  1. 00:06:253 (1,2) - antiflow here is really intense for platter, nerf a little
  2. 00:37:071 (2) - move to right a little
  3. 00:41:980 (4,1) - hyper between these two
  4. 00:49:617 (3,1) - ^
  5. 00:51:526 (3,1) - ^
  6. 00:58:344 (3,4,1) - still lacks hyper
  7. 01:00:253 (2,3,1) - ^
  8. 00:55:617 (2,3) - too far from 00:55:344 (1) - reduce a little
  9. 00:58:480 (4) - 00:59:571 (6) and 01:00:662 (3) - the way you hitfinish like that and put another note after it just sounds really weird, fix?
  10. 01:08:571 (2) - more spaced from (1) to reflect the guitar
  11. 01:25:753 (3,4) - I think antiflow may be too hard, I suggest fixing the curve and put 01:25:889 (4) - in the same direction of hyper
Collab Rain
  1. 00:04:071 (1) - kinda skip drum sounds? also guitar(?) sounds did starts 00:04:208 - here so I think there should be a note on 00:04:071 - before a slider
  2. 00:05:162 (1) - too flat, bent it up a little
  3. 00:07:753 (2) - should be hyper to send the hype of the beat up and better flow
  4. 00:07:889 (3,4) - these should be two 1/2 sliders to reflect the guitar
  5. 00:12:799 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - dash strength here is pretty strong, please fix spacing (I suggest moving 00:13:480 (4,5) - both closer and make more vertical but not straight vertical)
  6. 00:18:253 (1,2,3) - slider(1) is pretty spacious repeat compared to 00:18:662 (2,3) - which is very narrow despite being the same pace, consider make them spaced equally
  7. 00:23:980 (2,3,4) - can be more spaced from each other
  8. 00:27:253 (2,3,4,5,1) - these parts' intensity just go down, hype it up a bit, also avoid edgy change of direction on 00:27:935 (5,1) -
  9. 00:41:162 (1,2) - the movement here doesn't really reflect the vocal much, try moving in different direction
  10. 00:54:117 (1,2) - merge this one into a long slider for vocal
I think the first half of the song should improve in terms of aesthetics as the second half looks pretty neat that it feels really different while playing. Nothing else, the flow is nice gj
Collab Overdose
  1. 00:04:071 (1) - kinda skip drum sounds? also guitar(?) sounds did starts 00:04:208 - here so I think there should be a note on 00:04:071 - before a slider(same as Rain)
  2. 00:07:344 (1,2) - why is this less spaced compared to 00:06:253 (1,2) - which sounded the same?
  3. 00:07:890 (3) - make this one vertical slanted a little to the right, creating hyper for better flow
  4. 00:27:389 (2,3,4) - very spacious that it seems to be continuous edgy dash especially here 00:27:662 (3,4,1) ,adjust the sliderends and distance between 00:27:935 (4,1) -
  5. 00:36:253 (3) - I kinda think that if this one is antiflow, it would reflects the beat more, as this one seems too plain to move
  6. 00:50:844 (1,2) - I think the hyper between 00:50:708 (4,1) - are too strong, I suggest move 00:50:844 (1) - to x:264 and ctrl+g 00:51:253 (2) - this would flow more?
  7. 01:20:435 (1) - I think this one is too underemphasized, hyper between 01:20:162 (5,1) - and move 01:20:708 (2) - to x:376 then make it more vertical?
  8. 01:25:685 (2) - ctrl+g might look better
Sorry, I didn't mod lower diffs as you said, cuz it seems fine to me and I'm really, really bad at modding lower diffs so yea
Hope this helps! :)
DeletedUser_6709840
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6709840

-Luminate wrote:

Hi! From my queue
Collab Normal
  1. 00:26:844 (6,1) - too far for 1/2 ( reduced)
  2. 00:49:753 (3) - dash ( Added )
  3. 00:54:117 (1,2) - feels a little too stacked, more movement? ( fixed )
  4. 00:56:435 - way tooooooo empty, maybe move (3) to x:88 and change into slider that ends on 00:56:708 - ? ( No prominent sound that can be mapped in a Normal )
  5. 00:59:162 (4) - change the slider direction, or else it would make really intense dash (Changed a bit )
  6. 01:04:480 (2) - flatten this slider, seems narrow to move ( seems fine to me )
  7. 01:18:935 (3,1) - too far for 1/2 ( reduced )
  8. How about a spinner at the end? ( GDer doesnt want a spinner )
Idk what to mod, cuz I suck at modding salad xD

Collab Platter
  1. 00:06:253 (1,2) - antiflow here is really intense for platter, nerf a little ( Ok )
  2. 00:37:071 (2) - move to right a little ( done )
  3. 00:41:980 (4,1) - hyper between these two ( No, I cant fit a hyper there )
  4. 00:49:617 (3,1) - ^ ( Ok )
  5. 00:51:526 (3,1) - ^ ( Ok )
  6. 00:58:344 (3,4,1) - still lacks hyper ( Ok )
  7. 01:00:253 (2,3,1) - ^ ( Ok )
  8. 00:55:617 (2,3) - too far from 00:55:344 (1) - reduce a little
  9. 00:58:480 (4) - 00:59:571 (6) and 01:00:662 (3) - the way you hitfinish like that and put another note after it just sounds really weird, fix? ( i find it okay )
  10. 01:08:571 (2) - more spaced from (1) to reflect the guitar ( Done )
  11. 01:25:753 (3,4) - I think antiflow may be too hard, I suggest fixing the curve and put 01:25:889 (4) - in the same direction of hyper

Collab Rain
  1. 00:04:071 (1) - kinda skip drum sounds? also guitar(?) sounds did starts 00:04:208 - here so I think there should be a note on 00:04:071 - before a slider ( ??? I don't hear anything )
  2. 00:05:162 (1) - too flat, bent it up a little ok
  3. 00:07:753 (2) - should be hyper to send the hype of the beat up and better flow ( what? )
  4. 00:07:889 (3,4) - these should be two 1/2 sliders to reflect the guitar ok
  5. 00:12:799 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - dash strength here is pretty strong, please fix spacing (I suggest moving 00:13:480 (4,5) - both closer and make more vertical but not straight vertical) ( I've fixed this multiple times, its fine )
  6. 00:18:253 (1,2,3) - slider(1) is pretty spacious repeat compared to 00:18:662 (2,3) - which is very narrow despite being the same pace, consider make them spaced equally Hopefully Fixed?
  7. 00:23:980 (2,3,4) - can be more spaced from each other ok
  8. 00:27:253 (2,3,4,5,1) - these parts' intensity just go down, hype it up a bit, also avoid edgy change of direction on 00:27:935 (5,1) - ( Huh?)
  9. 00:41:162 (1,2) - the movement here doesn't really reflect the vocal much, try moving in different direction ( I dont agree )
  10. 00:54:117 (1,2) - merge this one into a long slider for vocal
I think the first half of the song should improve in terms of aesthetics as the second half looks pretty neat that it feels really different while playing. Nothing else, the flow is nice gj

Collab Overdose
  1. 00:04:071 (1) - kinda skip drum sounds? also guitar(?) sounds did starts 00:04:208 - here so I think there should be a note on 00:04:071 - before a slider(same as Rain) ( Again, I dont agree with this, it sounds fine )
  2. 00:07:344 (1,2) - why is this less spaced compared to 00:06:253 (1,2) - which sounded the same? ( I dont see the issue)
  3. 00:07:890 (3) - make this one vertical slanted a little to the right, creating hyper for better flow ( no issue )
  4. 00:27:389 (2,3,4) - very spacious that it seems to be continuous edgy dash especially here 00:27:662 (3,4,1) ,adjust the sliderends and distance between 00:27:935 (4,1) - ( Adjusted a bit )
  5. 00:36:253 (3) - I kinda think that if this one is antiflow, it would reflects the beat more, as this one seems too plain to move ( The vocal is kinda plain, so it stays )
  6. 00:50:844 (1,2) - I think the hyper between 00:50:708 (4,1) - are too strong, I suggest move 00:50:844 (1) - to x:264 and ctrl+g 00:51:253 (2) - this would flow more? ( done )
  7. 01:20:435 (1) - I think this one is too underemphasized, hyper between 01:20:162 (5,1) - and move 01:20:708 (2) - to x:376 then make it more vertical? DONE
  8. 01:25:685 (2) - ctrl+g might look better DONE
Sorry, I didn't mod lower diffs as you said, cuz it seems fine to me and I'm really, really bad at modding lower diffs so yea
Hope this helps! :)
Thank you for the mod, it's appreciated
Sakary
867 posts
Joined July 2013
Sakary
this is a nice set
Divine Cake
114 posts
Joined November 2013
Divine Cake
[General]
  1. MA claims soft-hitclap.wav is unused. I cant hear it mapped anywhere either, but mighthave missed it.
  2. Salad is ending on 01:24:799 - instead of 01:25:889 - like the Cup. i get not mapping the last part like platter-overdose but atleast keep these two diffs with concistent endingtimes
  3. would try and find someone to help with the timing of this mapset. since every other downbeat in the section 00:13:889 - to 00:31:344 - hits on a red tick instead of a white tick there might be something wrong here. Would give you what timing to use if i knew it, but tried some timing points based on This guide without really getting the results i wanted.
  4. Diff jump from salad to platter is pretty high, my main concerns in the platter also relates closely to difficulty so would try to nerf platter to hit closer to salad than it currently is.

[Cup]
  1. 00:05:162 (1,2,3) - walk from tail of 1 to head of 3 can get a bit tight if you start a bit late. i would reduce spacing between 2 and 3 to around 1.2x and have 3 be a straight slider going to the left instead to create some emphasis.
  2. 00:08:435 (3,4,1) - since you can just passivly move from 3 tail to 1 head 4 does not get the emphasis it should get. Maybe copy 3 and use that as the slider for 4 too, using direction changes to emphasise the sound on 4.
  3. 00:19:344 (1) - feels a bit awkward since there is a pretty significant guitar sound on 00:19:208 - that is not mapped. would reduce 00:18:662 (3) - by 1/2 beat and move 00:19:344 (1) - 1/2 beat erlier, remove the NC and add NC to 00:19:617 (2) - instead
  4. 00:33:526 (1) - would preffer this as three notes in one direction instead, ameks them feel more connected with the vocal imo:
    picture
  5. 00:36:117 (2) - is a bit unecessary imo. the extra note density would make sections like 00:37:889 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - after not have the same impact.
  6. 00:42:526 (2) - would move this one back to 4 to make 00:42:253 (1) - stand a bit more out as a major downbeat.'
  7. 00:48:662 (1) - isnt this on a pretty significant sound? first note in the kiai, shouldnt there be more spacing than 0.8x when your normal walk distance is ~ 1.1x
  8. 00:56:980 (4) - would maybe tilt this more vertical so that you have can get some diffrence in movement between this one and 00:48:253 (3) -

[Salad]
  1. 00:01:889 (1,2,3,4) - this rotated curve does not work that well imo. The beat placesment looks a bit random spacing wise. would rather have you use a curve identical to 00:00:799 (1,2,3,4) - or something with a more clear spacing between 00:01:889 (1,2) - to fix spacing issues.
  2. 00:03:526 (2,1) - can be a bit unclear if this is a dash or a walk.
  3. 00:05:162 (1) - would til this more to the right so that the margin for error on the first dahs is more lenient.
  4. 00:09:389 (8,1) - all your 1/2 beat dashes are technically walkable. i'd rather use 2.5x for your dash distance on 1/2 dashes to make it unambigious that this is a dash, the 2.42x spacings are pretty clear, so can buff everything to atleast 2.42x instead if that is prefferable.
    all 1/2 dashes
    00:09:389 (8,1) - (2.42x)
    00:26:844 (6,1) - (2.2x)
    00:39:662 (3,1) - (2.27x)
    00:49:344 (2,3) - (2.18x)
    00:51:526 (2,3) - (2.42x)
    01:00:253 (2,3) - (2.36x)
    01:07:071 (3,1) - (2.36x)
  5. 00:12:799 (1,2) - looks a bit weird to me. i would til 1 more out to the side and have head of 2 back to the head of 1.
  6. 00:14:708 (3) - what sound are you mapping here? it sounds really awkward and out of place. vocals follow 1/3 rythm.
  7. 00:17:708 (2,3) - supposed to be walkable? cause to me those two beats seem stronger than 00:17:026 (1) - which has a dash. Think making 00:16:617 (2,1) - a normal walk would be better.
  8. 00:25:480 (3,1) - same as 00:12:799 (1,2) -
  9. 00:52:617 (4,5) - why not use normal walk spacing here? 5 is a bit awkwkard to catch.
  10. 01:01:889 (1,2,3) - would place 3 on top of 2 or use a repeat slider instead, the in between looks a bit awkward imo.
  11. 01:07:889 (2,3,4) - ^

[Platter]
Dash density is too high in the diff, constantly need to tap dash around to make the next note. shapes and rhythm seems fine but i will go trough some dashes and suggest more walk patterns.
The dash density/tapdash problem can also be explaiend by a bit to high sv. horizontal sliders often become very tap-dashy in the diff.
  1. 00:04:071 (1,2,3) - can all be a walk
  2. 00:10:071 (5,6,7,8) - reduce spacing between notes a bit to make more walkable.
  3. 00:10:617 (1,2,3,4) - dash 3 to 4 is not that justified. spacing between 00:10:617 (1,2,3) - is also a bit high. reducing this would also help.
  4. 00:11:980 (2) - tilt a bit vertical to make pattern more walkable.
  5. 00:13:208 (2,3) - reduce spacing a bit.
  6. 00:16:480 (2,3) - reduce horizontal movement a bit. hard to catch without tapdashing.
  7. 00:17:617 (3,4) - having a 1/3 dash is a bit awkard when note density is so high around it, can change 00:17:026 (1) - to end at 00:17:435 - so that note density is more calm and the focus becomes the 1/3 dash. else i would consider using a walk with some anti-flow.
  8. 00:18:253 (1,2,3,4) - would tilt 1 and 2 a bit vertical so there is more walk in between the two dashes.
  9. 00:18:662 (2,3) - Why not repeat 2 instead? hoping to screw with the hr players? :^)
  10. 00:22:889 (2,3) - reduce horizontal movement.
    Stopping here cause you can probbably tell just as well yourself what dashes you want to remove. if you wish for me to point out everything pm me somewhere and ill come back and take the rest of your section.
tap dash problem persists untill 00:31:344 - here music calms down and the problem isnt as big. gona go do the same with Sanyi's part now
  1. 00:51:253 (2,3) - almost not walkable, would tilt 2 a bit more vertical and reduce spacing between 2 and 3 a bit
  2. 00:55:344 (1,2,3) - would tilt 1 more horizontal so that the player can dash erlier and not miss 1's tail.
  3. 00:58:071 (2,3,4) - spacing too high here. would focus on the hyper between 4 and 1 and have rest walkable.
  4. 01:00:799 (1,2,3) - ?unrankable? might just be reading RC wrong tho.
  5. 01:04:344 (2,3) - keep consistent spacing between these three.
  6. 01:14:435 (3) - tilt it a bit vertical, close to tapdashing again
  7. 01:19:753 (2) - ^
  8. 01:20:162 (3,1,2) - too much anti flow, reduce spacing on walking parts or add a hyper and some flow after like you suggested when we talked :^)
you might have to consider reducing global sv by .1 or .2 as alot of horizontal sliders come close to needing tap dashes. If you decided to do that alot of my complaints on spacing might go away.

[Rain]
feel that the start of the song does not have eanogh walk sections and has to many hypers all around. All hypers and dashes can be justified but it feels just a bit to samey when you have so few walk sections to contrast with
  1. 00:01:071 (2,3) - jump seems just a bit overspaced. possible to reduce by .1-.2?
  2. 00:02:299 (4,5) - ^
  3. 00:02:435 (5,6,7,8) - spacing too high imo. 00:02:708 (7) - not on that strong a beat.
  4. 00:04:071 (1) - feels a bit undermapped imo. I know you're following the guitar but you stop following it so fast it just sounds a bit awkward. could you try a rhythm like this?
  5. 00:08:435 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - no sounds on the blue ticks here. there might be something on 00:08:639 - and 00:08:912 - but it is really faint.
  6. 00:09:935 (2) - what sound is starting on this red tick? would map 00:09:526 (1,2) - as a 1/2 and a 1/1 instead of 1/2 repeat then a 1/2
  7. 00:12:117 (2) - no sound.
  8. 00:13:889 (1,2) - nerf this spacing a bit to focus on the jump comming after.
  9. 00:16:071 (1) - tilt this one more vertical to get more focus on jump after.
  10. 00:20:844 (2) - have a bit less horizontal movement so you get some breaks between your more dashy parts.
  11. 00:21:253 (3,1,2) - The song has about the same strenght for all three but there is only a hyper to 00:21:253 (3) - and 00:21:799 (2) - Personally dont feel any of them deserve a hyper, but if you want them i would use one for all three.
  12. 00:22:617 (1,2) - having diffrent spacing between these two and 00:22:753 (2,3) - makes little sense to me. if anything 3 is stronger than 2 but has less spacing and easier flow.
  13. 00:28:071 (1) - would tilt it more vertical since there isnt the same strenght in the vocals here as in say 00:28:344 (2) -
  14. 00:31:344 - 00:37:889 - i really dont get your logic on spacing in this section. 00:32:435 (1,2,3,4) - is all part of one section, but 3 of them have a spacing of 1.1x and one is 2.4x? if it was 00:32:980 (3) - you could maybe justify by the extra drum, but its just vocals at 4. Same goes for 00:33:526 (1,2,3,4) -
    After that we come to 00:34:617 (1,2,3) - there is no strong hit on 2's head but you have a dash there for some reason. 00:35:299 (3) - is a 1/1 for some reason, even tho vocals start at 00:35:162 - which to me is the only held note in the section fitting of a slider.
    00:35:708 (1,2,3) - strong beat on 2 with low spacing weak beat on 3's head but high spacing? also 00:36:253 - skipping this beat which i feel you should map.
    feels like you wanted to add some variety and not map 1/2 all the way, but the way you mapped does not follow the song that well and it feels like a floaty random section without much care for the song.
  15. 00:55:753 (3,4) - might be a bit too high spaced.
  16. 01:00:799 (1) - The direction change on the repeat makes the slider feel a bit overemphasized to me. could you maybe just use a single direction for the pattern instead?
    something like this maybe?
  17. 01:11:162 (6) - possible to map this as 3 1/2 beats instead? so you add some rhythmical variety between 01:08:980 (2) - 01:11:162 (6) - and 01:13:344 (2) -

[Overdose]
  1. 00:09:935 (4) - im not even sure this is mapped on a sound. let alone a strong sound, why is this a hyper?
  2. 00:40:344 (2,3) - spacing might be a bit high here.
  3. 00:41:571 (2,3) - would preffer to have the jump on 00:41:708 - instead but it works as is too so can keep if you want to.
  4. 00:47:026 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - seems a bit overspaced on the hypers, would reduce distance on them a bit.
is a pretty good overdose i feel, fun to play

Sorry for the long response time, have been a bit demotivated and tried to make a good mod too. Would be great if i got some feedback on what was good/bad so i can improve on modding. PM me on discord or osu if you got some feedback, it is hugely appreciated.
DeletedUser_6709840
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6709840
General
MA claims soft-hitclap.wav is unused. I cant hear it mapped anywhere either, but mighthave missed it. ( You might have an old version of the map because I don't have that hitsound in my files. Try redownloading the the map after I update and that hitsound shouldnt be in the files )
Salad is ending on 01:24:799- instead of 01:25:889- like the Cup. i get not mapping the last part like platter-overdose but atleast keep these two diffs with concistent endingtimes ( Changed it )
would try and find someone to help with the timing of this mapset. since every other downbeat in the section 00:13:889- to 00:31:344- hits on a red tick instead of a white tick there might be something wrong here. Would give you what timing to use if i knew it, but tried some timing points based on This guide without really getting the results i wanted. ( Timing is fine because it hits mostly on large white ticks for main sounds besides the vocal. I tend to follow the vocal in my mapping so that may be causing some confusion too.)
Diff jump from salad to platter is pretty high, my main concerns in the platter also relates closely to difficulty so would try to nerf platter to hit closer to salad than it currently is. ( I've read your suggestion on nerfing the SV but I don't think that's the real issue. Platter does need to be nerfed but I don't think SV changes is the answer. I'll apply your changes that I agree with in Platter and see what happens to the star rating and ect. )



Cup
00:05:162 (1,2,3)- walk from tail of 1 to head of 3 can get a bit tight if you start a bit late. i would reduce spacing between 2 and 3 to around 1.2x and have 3 be a straight slider going to the left instead to create some emphasis. ( Worked it around so the spacing would be reduced but that's about it )
00:08:435 (3,4,1)- since you can just passivly move from 3 tail to 1 head 4 does not get the emphasis it should get. Maybe copy 3 and use that as the slider for 4 too, using direction changes to emphasise the sound on 4. ( I don't exactly know what you want me to do and I don't like the sound of what you're asking me to do because it sounds like you want me to make it antiflow )
00:19:344 (1)- feels a bit awkward since there is a pretty significant guitar sound on 00:19:208- that is not mapped. would reduce 00:18:662 (3)- by 1/2 beat and move 00:19:344 (1)- 1/2 beat erlier, remove the NC and add NC to 00:19:617 (2)- instead ( Mapped in a different way that follows the guitar better )
00:33:526 (1)- would preffer this as three notes in one direction instead, ameks them feel more connected with the vocal imo ( Eh, this is subjective because I covered the same rhythm in a way that's fine. )
00:36:117 (2)- is a bit unecessary imo. the extra note density would make sections like 00:37:889 (1,2,3,1,2,3)- after not have the same impact. ( I'm covering the whole vocal so I can't remove )
00:42:526 (2)- would move this one back to 4 to make 00:42:253 (1)- stand a bit more out as a major downbeat. ( EMPHASIS ON VOCAL )
00:48:662 (1)- isnt this on a pretty significant sound? first note in the kiai, shouldnt there be more spacing than 0.8x when your normal walk distance is ~ 1.1x ( Fixed )
00:56:980 (4)- would maybe tilt this more vertical so that you have can get some diffrence in movement between this one and 00:48:253 (3)- ( Doesn't make a difference )



Salad
00:01:889 (1,2,3,4)- this rotated curve does not work that well imo. The beat placesment looks a bit random spacing wise. would rather have you use a curve identical to 00:00:799 (1,2,3,4)- or something with a more clear spacing between 00:01:889 (1,2)- to fix spacing issues. ( It's meant to be a pseudo-stack. But if I did a true stack it would look uglier. As long as it's playable, I see no true issue with it because it indicates a direction change I want )
00:03:526 (2,1)- can be a bit unclear if this is a dash or a walk. ( It's a walk but I reduced anyway )
00:05:162 (1)- would til this more to the right so that the margin for error on the first dahs is more lenient. ( ok )
00:09:389 (8,1)- all your 1/2 beat dashes are technically walkable. i'd rather use 2.5x for your dash distance on 1/2 dashes to make it unambigious that this is a dash, the 2.42x spacings are pretty clear, so can buff everything to atleast 2.42x instead if that is prefferable.
all 1/2 dashes
00:09:389 (8,1)- (2.42x)
00:26:844 (6,1)- (2.2x)
00:39:662 (3,1)- (2.27x)
00:49:344 (2,3)- (2.18x)
00:51:526 (2,3)- (2.42x)
01:00:253 (2,3)- (2.36x)
01:07:071 (3,1)- (2.36x)
( Fixed all dashes to be around 2.4x to 2.5x that were pointed out )
00:12:799 (1,2)- looks a bit weird to me. i would til 1 more out to the side and have head of 2 back to the head of 1. ( Looks fine to me :/ )
00:14:708 (3)- what sound are you mapping here? it sounds really awkward and out of place. vocals follow 1/3 rythm. ( Did some remapping in that section to match the vocal a bit )
00:17:708 (2,3)- supposed to be walkable? cause to me those two beats seem stronger than 00:17:026 (1)- which has a dash. Think making 00:16:617 (2,1)- a normal walk would be better. ( I guess but it messes with consistency a bit )
00:25:480 (3,1)- same as 00:12:799 (1,2)- ( Rearranged so the stack looks nicer )
00:52:617 (4,5)- why not use normal walk spacing here? 5 is a bit awkwkard to catch. ( Fixed )
01:01:889 (1,2,3)- would place 3 on top of 2 or use a repeat slider instead, the in between looks a bit awkward imo. ( OK )
01:07:889 (2,3,4)- ^ ( Fixed )



Platter
Dash density is too high in the diff, constantly need to tap dash around to make the next note. shapes and rhythm seems fine but i will go trough some dashes and suggest more walk patterns.
The dash density/tapdash problem can also be explaiend by a bit to high sv. horizontal sliders often become very tap-dashy in the diff. ( I can't reduce SV without screwing up the whole diff but I'll fix all the horizontals I see need to be fixed )
00:04:071 (1,2,3)- can all be a walk ( Done )
00:10:071 (5,6,7,8)- reduce spacing between notes a bit to make more walkable. ( Reduced by a pixel )
00:10:617 (1,2,3,4)- dash 3 to 4 is not that justified. spacing between 00:10:617 (1,2,3)- is also a bit high. reducing this would also help. ( Repatterned to make changed )
00:11:980 (2)- tilt a bit vertical to make pattern more walkable. ( Tilted slightly )
00:13:208 (2,3)- reduce spacing a bit. ( Ok )
00:16:480 (2,3)- reduce horizontal movement a bit. hard to catch without tapdashing. ( Ok )
00:17:617 (3,4)- having a 1/3 dash is a bit awkard when note density is so high around it, can change 00:17:026 (1)- to end at 00:17:435- so that note density is more calm and the focus becomes the 1/3 dash. else i would consider using a walk with some anti-flow. ( Made the pattern a slider )
00:18:253 (1,2,3,4)- would tilt 1 and 2 a bit vertical so there is more walk in between the two dashes. ( Done )
00:18:662 (2,3)- Why not repeat 2 instead? hoping to screw with the hr players? :^) (It's because of the guitar sound there. Another modder complained when it was a repeat so here we are )
00:22:889 (2,3)- reduce horizontal movement. ( Done )
Stopping here cause you can probbably tell just as well yourself what dashes you want to remove. if you wish for me to point out everything pm me somewhere and ill come back and take the rest of your section. ( Please point them all out or they won't get fixed, I'm not smart at figuring this stuff out and am also applying for Sanyi )
tap dash problem persists untill 00:31:344- here music calms down and the problem isnt as big. gona go do the same with Sanyi's part now
00:51:253 (2,3)- almost not walkable, would tilt 2 a bit more vertical and reduce spacing between 2 and 3 a bit ( Hopefully fixed )
00:55:344 (1,2,3)- would tilt 1 more horizontal so that the player can dash erlier and not miss 1's tail. ( Done )
00:58:071 (2,3,4)- spacing too high here. would focus on the hyper between 4 and 1 and have rest walkable. ( Done )
01:00:799 (1,2,3)- ?unrankable? might just be reading RC wrong tho. ( I think it's rankable with 1/1 spacing )
01:04:344 (2,3)- keep consistent spacing between these three. ( Rearranged )
01:14:435 (3)- tilt it a bit vertical, close to tapdashing again ( I think this is fine )
01:19:753 (2)- ^ ( Adjusted )
01:20:162 (3,1,2)- too much anti flow, reduce spacing on walking parts or add a hyper and some flow after like you suggested when we talked :^) ( I rearranged the pattern )
you might have to consider reducing global sv by .1 or .2 as alot of horizontal sliders come close to needing tap dashes. If you decided to do that alot of my complaints on spacing might go away.



Rain
feel that the start of the song does not have eanogh walk sections and has to many hypers all around. All hypers and dashes can be justified but it feels just a bit to samey when you have so few walk sections to contrast with ( Eh, we'll see )
00:01:071 (2,3)- jump seems just a bit overspaced. possible to reduce by .1-.2? ( No, it's using the consistent spacing value so it can't be )
00:02:299 (4,5)- ^ ( Same as before )
00:02:435 (5,6,7,8)- spacing too high imo. 00:02:708 (7)- not on that strong a beat. ( I don't see the issue, im using consistent spacing and 7 is strong guitar enough for a dash )
00:04:071 (1)- feels a bit undermapped imo. I know you're following the guitar but you stop following it so fast it just sounds a bit awkward. could you try a rhythm like this? ( Keeping my rhythm so it's consistent with Overdose )

00:08:435 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8)- no sounds on the blue ticks here. there might be something on 00:08:639- and 00:08:912- but it is really faint. ( It's loud enough to map in Rain, same with Overdose )
00:09:935 (2)- what sound is starting on this red tick? would map 00:09:526 (1,2)- as a 1/2 and a 1/1 instead of 1/2 repeat then a ½ ( Following the groups of 3 of the guitar )
00:12:117 (2)- no sound. ( How do you not hear the guitar??? )
00:13:889 (1,2)- nerf this spacing a bit to focus on the jump comming after. ( Sure )
00:16:071 (1)- tilt this one more vertical to get more focus on jump after. ( sure )
00:20:844 (2)- have a bit less horizontal movement so you get some breaks between your more dashy parts. ( The current motion puts emphasis on the 'sho' vocal )
00:21:253 (3,1,2)- The song has about the same strenght for all three but there is only a hyper to 00:21:253 (3)- and 00:21:799 (2)- Personally dont feel any of them deserve a hyper, but if you want them i would use one for all three. ( removed the hyper )
00:22:617 (1,2)- having diffrent spacing between these two and 00:22:753 (2,3)- makes little sense to me. if anything 3 is stronger than 2 but has less spacing and easier flow. ( How is 3 stronger??? it's a vocal start with no drum or guitar to back it up. What does 3 have anything to do with 1,2 ? This mod doesnt make sense )
00:28:071 (1)- would tilt it more vertical since there isnt the same strenght in the vocals here as in say 00:28:344 (2)- ( Fine, whatever )
00:31:344- 00:37:889- i really dont get your logic on spacing in this section. 00:32:435 (1,2,3,4)- is all part of one section, but 3 of them have a spacing of 1.1x and one is 2.4x? if it was 00:32:980 (3)- you could maybe justify by the extra drum, but its just vocals at 4. Same goes for 00:33:526 (1,2,3,4)- 
After that we come to 00:34:617 (1,2,3)- there is no strong hit on 2's head but you have a dash there for some reason. 00:35:299 (3)- is a 1/1 for some reason, even tho vocals start at 00:35:162- which to me is the only held note in the section fitting of a slider. 
00:35:708 (1,2,3)- strong beat on 2 with low spacing weak beat on 3's head but high spacing? also 00:36:253- skipping this beat which i feel you should map.
feels like you wanted to add some variety and not map 1/2 all the way, but the way you mapped does not follow the song that well and it feels like a floaty random section without much care for the song. ( I was mostly following the vocal of this section since the drums and guitar aren't as strong. Please don't put a bunch of suggestions in a long ass paragraph like this again because I didn't apply most of these suggestions because it was hard to understand not broken down into chunks. I made a few changed but they're minor )
00:55:753 (3,4)- might be a bit too high spaced. ( Meant to be a dash )
01:00:799 (1)- The direction change on the repeat makes the slider feel a bit overemphasized to me. could you maybe just use a single direction for the pattern instead ( Seems fine to me because your pattern would force an unwanted dash into the new vocals )
01:11:162 (6)- possible to map this as 3 1/2 beats instead? so you add some rhythmical variety between 01:08:980 (2)- 01:11:162 (6)- and 01:13:344 (2)- ( I guess )



Overdose
00:09:935 (4)- im not even sure this is mapped on a sound. let alone a strong sound, why is this a hyper? ( Did the hyper on 4,5 instead )
00:40:344 (2,3)- spacing might be a bit high here. ( Fixed the horizontal a bit )
00:41:571 (2,3)- would preffer to have the jump on 00:41:708- instead but it works as is too so can keep if you want to. ( Repatterned )
00:47:026 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10)- seems a bit overspaced on the hypers, would reduce distance on them a bit. ( I think it's fine since you're not specifying what hypers need to be reduced )

is a pretty good overdose i feel, fun to play


Sorry for the long response time, have been a bit demotivated and tried to make a good mod too. Would be great if i got some feedback on what was good/bad so i can improve on modding. PM me on discord or osu if you got some feedback, it is hugely appreciated. ( Will do, since I have some questions of my own )

Thank you, it's appreciated. If you feel like adding clarifications, that would be perfect.
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NO KDS please, this is ment as a follow up to the main mod, but i feel its easier to see what im reffering to in a new post.
Gona go over some platter spacing as we agreed then.


Platter
  1. 00:02:844 (6,1) - because of this anti-flow jump i would consider reducing spacing on 00:02:299 (2,3,4,5,6) - or just 00:02:299 (2,3) - so its not as close to a tap-dash.
  2. 00:02:980 (1,2,3,4) - i feel this spacing is a bit high, reduces the impact of the jump 00:03:389 (4,5) - for me. It is okay, so can keep it if you prefer tho.
  3. 00:11:980 (2,3) - this dash is not clear enough for me to justify.
  4. 00:16:480 (2,3) - would tilt 2 and 3 more vertically to give the emphasis more on the jumps to and from these sliders (00:16:071 (1,2) - and 00:16:753 (3,1) -)
  5. 00:18:253 (1,2) - would tilt a bit more vertical
  6. 00:25:208 (2) - would make it a bit more vertical too.
  7. 00:40:071 (1,2,3) - spacing here feels a bit high.
  8. 00:51:253 (2,3) - would nerf spacing here a bit too, tap dash almost needed if not accurate on catcher.
  9. 00:53:162 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - vertical sliders lead to too high movement, hard to hit the entire slider at times without correcting with tap-dashes
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00:02:844 (6,1)- because of this anti-flow jump i would consider reducing spacing on 00:02:299 (2,3,4,5,6)- or just 00:02:299 (2,3)- so its not as close to a tap-dash. ( Reduced distances a bit )
00:02:980 (1,2,3,4)- i feel this spacing is a bit high, reduces the impact of the jump 00:03:389 (4,5)- for me. It is okay, so can keep it if you prefer tho. ( I think it's fine )
00:11:980 (2,3)- this dash is not clear enough for me to justify. ( I think it's fine )
00:16:480 (2,3)- would tilt 2 and 3 more vertically to give the emphasis more on the jumps to and from these sliders (00:16:071 (1,2)- and 00:16:753 (3,1)-) ( moved a bit )
00:18:253 (1,2)- would tilt a bit more vertical ( Ok )
00:25:208 (2)- would make it a bit more vertical too. ( Ok )
00:40:071 (1,2,3)- spacing here feels a bit high. ( Agreed )
00:51:253 (2,3)- would nerf spacing here a bit too, tap dash almost needed if not accurate on catcher. ( Fixed )
00:53:162 (1,2,3,1,2,3)- vertical sliders lead to too high movement, hard to hit the entire slider at times without correcting with tap-dashes ( Slanted the sliders a bit and rearranged )
Replied in () but didn't color code this time. Thank you for the mod once again. Now lets see if i can push this for rank
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