-himei wrote:

im not saying u shud make something like uta, but quality and logic wise u shud improve this map to Uta's level

ill give u an example:
00:15:069 (3,4) - i think the (4) shud be the copy of (3) shape wise, cuz the flow is going to the bot, no to the left, so the left directed slider looks bad here it is a copy of shape im really confused what you're saying lmao
00:15:640 (5,6,7) - distance here and 00:16:354 (3,4) - shud be at least equal? its the same rhythms, and also kinda the same sound phrase. not sure why you think this, for one (6,7) is a much stronger sound
(6,7) = guitar, as is (3,4)... (5) isnt even relevant


the main flaw of this map in my opinion is distance inbetween 1/4 jumps, which is very questinonable at sometimes.

Gus wrote:

Razuh wrote:

06:28:416 (1) - Timing is snapped very slightly late, noticed when I clicked it by chance.
06:28:773 (6) - Same as above
06:28:916 (8) - Same as above
06:29:273 (13) - Same as above
06:29:416 (14) - Same as above
06:29:559 (1) - Same as above blah blah blah you get the idea, just go through that end section and quickly drag them slightly so they snap into place correctly, the last one I found that wasn't snapped correctly was 06:29:986 (7) - so just work up to that from the start hmm.. maybe this is an issue on your end? im not really sure, AImod isnt showing any unsnapped objects. It'd be a timing issue, but I think it sounds fine to me.. is it an offset issue or an unsnapped object issue?

Razuh wrote:

It looked like the circles I mentioned had moved by a very small amount left and right on the timeline, I did check AImod and thought that it was strange that it wouldn't flag up errors for it. I've attempted redownloading the map since your update, and it's still moving the note's position on the timeline very slightly even when I'm within the correct timing point.
Perhaps it's a problem with the editor, but it IS extremely tiny so I'm going to say it's not an issue - hell, the AImod isn't flagging it, but I thought I'd mention it just in case.

Good job on the update, ty for my first kudosu, I'm gonna use give use it on this map <3

-himei wrote:

wwww alright ill mod this soon, looks like ure on a different page with me so i have to explain things more detailed.

Gus wrote:

small update: after a lot of demand and problem solving, i've fixed up the first 20s and the 6min10s jump spam mark with a lot of new patterns. so its all new there now

Razuh wrote:

Gus wrote:

small update: after a lot of demand and problem solving, i've fixed up the first 20s and the 6min10s jump spam mark with a lot of new patterns. so its all new there now

That's good, I'll give it a playtest and a look over in the editor next time I'm online and drop in my thoughts on it.

1. 00:01:640 (3) - Consider changing the rhythm here to give better emphasis on 00:01:783 Something like http://puu.sh/u0ov5/8991722744.jpg
2. 00:15:783 (6,4) - Overlap can make the repeat hard to read.
3. 00:17:211 (1,2,3) - No real point in stacking these. The song doesn't change at 00:17:425 so I think you should just space these all out.
4. 01:23:497 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Combos here a bit weird. Make combos consistent?
5. 01:57:211 (3,4) - Add some 1/4 notes to fit the drum?
6. 03:53:862 (5,1) - Flow is awkward. Reverse direction of (1)?
7. 04:18:702 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Maybe add some distance spacing changes and direction changes to better emphasize the accented notes.
8. 04:56:416 (5,1) - Distance is quite close and it could be confused for 1/2 beat.
9. 05:39:058 (3) - Reverse direction might flow better. Same with 05:47:273 (1)
10. 05:59:844 (1,2,3) - I think jumps would make more sense here.
11. The end of the map seems to be a bit off from the song. Check your offsets throughout the map to make sure the timing is right.

Little wrote:

[Hakai]

1. 00:01:640 (3) - Consider changing the rhythm here to give better emphasis on 00:01:783 Something like http://puu.sh/u0ov5/8991722744.jpg no change here, guitar presents a hold sound imo
2. 00:15:783 (6,4) - Overlap can make the repeat hard to read. fixed hopefully
3. 00:17:211 (1,2,3) - No real point in stacking these. The song doesn't change at 00:17:425 so I think you should just space these all out.all stacked notes in this short section are triples for guitar
4. 01:23:497 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Combos here a bit weird. Make combos consistent? fixed i think
5. 01:57:211 (3,4) - Add some 1/4 notes to fit the drum? been suggested, I like how it slows down to lead into the guitar section tho
6. 03:53:862 (5,1) - Flow is awkward. Reverse direction of (1)? fixed
7. 04:18:702 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Maybe add some distance spacing changes and direction changes to better emphasize the accented notes. fixed!
8. 04:56:416 (5,1) - Distance is quite close and it could be confused for 1/2 beat. think its fine here
9. 05:39:058 (3) - Reverse direction might flow better. Same with 05:47:273 (1) confused what you mean?
10. 05:59:844 (1,2,3) - I think jumps would make more sense here. I think it works as is
11. The end of the map seems to be a bit off from the song. Check your offsets throughout the map to make sure the timing is right.

TequilaWolf wrote:

mod

Hakai-

timing wise majority of the map seems good (I could land hits in the middle of error bar, except 04:54:702 (1) - onwards, then it seems ok again at 05:28:987 (1) - . I feel like +10 to +15 is needed, but you should consult actual experts ill mess around w offset!

01:04:497 - maybe add note fix
01:30:211 (4,5,6) - consider making the spacing between 5 and 6 bigger, say, put 5 around x160y256, for emphasis i dont think that part needs much emphasis
01:31:926 (5) - maybe change this slider to 2 circles instead i like as is :p
01:56:069 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2) - you can try adding 3 circles in between 1 and 2 to make a 13-note stream instead I think if I change this section at all it will be to emphasize the 2nd set of drums, but im not thinking I will right now
02:17:783 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I know it's pretty obvious that it's a 1/3 stream even without looking at spacing and such, but just a little weird that 02:16:211 (6,7,8,9,10,11,1) - and 02:18:926 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - are 1/4s but have larger spacing. related note, 02:17:211 (2) - consider changing this to a stream too no change because
a) I want to make sure players are prepared enough for 1/3 and I think the second repeat slider does that
b) I've used this DS for 1/4 streams almost entirely throughout the map so I ddon't think it would make sense to change the spacing here
02:34:640 (1,2,3,4,1,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I think the gaps are really weird and this entire section would be good as a long stream sound doesnt call for it :p
02:55:211 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - would extend stream till 02:55:497 (5) - good catch!
05:14:130 (1) - would map 'na' by shortening slider and adding circle on 05:14:559. you mapped 05:13:463 (2) - after all
05:14:987 (1) - same thing. http://puu.sh/uaq3N/acc0a97d7d.jpg

#uhhh I tried these and they sounded weird, but it is likely an offset issue. I'll mess around w offset then try again here...

Plush wrote:

Hello! I'm from the General Timing queue.
Using a lot of different offsets to follow the song can seem a little bit messy, so I edited MP3 for your song.
Here is the link, you can use save link as : http://cdiohe.comuf.com/dsi/202/audio.mp3
I mainly edited these parts. 04:54:702 with 05:28:987 and 05:54:130
IMO it starts to feel wonky here 04:54:702 onwards
Anyway, you don't have to change your current offset, I adjusted it so it fits your current one.
Try to use this mp3 and see if you think it's better!
GL

Plush wrote:

Gus wrote:

Plush wrote:

Hello! I'm from the General Timing queue.
Using a lot of different offsets to follow the song can seem a little bit messy, so I edited MP3 for your song.
Here is the link, you can use save link as : http://cdiohe.comuf.com/dsi/202/audio.mp3
I mainly edited these parts. 04:54:702 with 05:28:987 and 05:54:130
IMO it starts to feel wonky here 04:54:702 onwards
Anyway, you don't have to change your current offset, I adjusted it so it fits your current one.
Try to use this mp3 and see if you think it's better!
GL

Hey man, thank you so much! Although, I did try the mp3 and it seemed to warp the offset a little too much, like now it was too early throughout the map (but fairly well timed at around 4:54-5:28 from what I noticed)

For that reason I haven't yet updated it, I'm playing with offset.

I also did read on some forum post that it could just be because of the lack of drums (which is what the bpm follows I believe?) in the section, and is therefore kind of not an issue? I'm unsure, though.

After you mentioned it, I think I'll have to agree with you on my mp3 edit making the hitcircles come too early in parts other than 4:54-5:28. These kinds of things require a lot of trial and errors especially mp3 editing so I think here's a simple fix w/ the old mp3 (similar to your solution on 03:58:174 to 03:58:933 -)
1. Add uninherited timing point Offset: 294,130ms and BPM: 205.00
2. Change offset on timing 294702 to 294715 and resnap all notes (then resnap the first note at 294702 manually), keep the BPM
3. Add uninherited timing point Offset: 328,422ms and BPM: 212.25
IMO the feel and the timing of hits also change when the instruments change...
You can try and see whether you like them or not.

Renumi wrote:

tags :thinking:

w

MomoHD wrote:

You know, this map really shouldn't be pushed for rank, Gus. This map is simply unfit for the ranking system and you know it. It doesn't even contain 1/8th corner stream jumps. It also doesn't even contain 1/32 single tap jumps. Please delete this map set and delete your account immediately.

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AyanokoRin wrote:

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Hakai

00:09:211 (1,2) - I don’t get the sudden rhythm change here since you’re mapping the guitar + the sound that adds there but at 00:11:497 (1,2,3) you go back to before’s structure different rhythm different structure right

00:34:783 (3,4,5) - y u red tick slider here, I’d do something like this to get back to white ticks cause red tick sliders play weird rhythmically speaking, also by doing this you get a clickable object on downbeat which is something you want here considering there’s no clear emphasis on somewhere near ( that would justify it being emphasised over the downbeat ) fixd II think

00:36:069 (4) - why is there a circle here ? The voice is held since 00:35:926 (3) and same for the guitar, and I don’t see why you’d be following drums since you went for guitar/voice during the rest of that part. Plus the presence of a circle makes the transition into the next measure kind awkward cause 00:36:211 (5) is a red tick slider and you also end up with 00:36:497 (6) being mapped neither on vocals nor guitar like before I think fixed?

00:46:927 (2) - I’m not a big fan of how it flows with 00:46:641 (8,9,1) tbh The song gets messy as does the flow imo

00:48:069 (1,2,3,4) - why is this part calmer than before ? It’s the same kind of phrase so I dunno why your rhythm is less dense here I don't want it to play the exact same here tbh, kind of want to separate it from the earlier part

00:49:497 (2) - since you’re following the screamo this should really be 2 circles I think I don't see it

01:00:640 (1) - your slidertick sound is really loud here, dunno if it’s intentional ? im not sure why its so loud honestly but I kind of like it LOLAlso why is this slider that long vocals! it ends on a vocal, but thats intentional ? Lastly, the curve could be better, and it becomes visible when you see how it’s blanketed around 01:00:069 (5) like this

01:02:926 (1) - stack on 01:01:783 (1) fixd ty

01:04:641 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - again, why is the structure different when the part of the song is the same ? Especially with the spacing ; 00:37:783 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1) - is high spacing while 01:05:211 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) is low… I’m fine with both if that’s how you interpret song’s intensity, but be consistent. 01:05:211 (1) - the drums become audibly louder here (from what I hear)and I view this as sort of a decrease in intensity. Like I've told you, I think the song works best if mapped in stages, and tthe spacing change there is because I feel like it's the "end of a stage" so the intensity should be lowered

01:07:783 (2) - what is this mapped to ? Probably the guitar, but then why didn’t you map the other notes at 01:08:069 - 01:08:211 - etc ? Yeah. The sliders are what I interpret to be held sounds (if you listen, the guitar persists almost throughout the whole sliders 01:08:926 (3,6,9) - etc

01:10:926 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - this is as spaced as 00:37:783 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) which was the climax of its own phrase, consider nerfing it

01:20:069 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - this is arguably more intense than 01:15:497 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) or the other one before, so I’d suggest making it stand out through different spacing fixed all. finally decided to make the map more consistently spaced here.

01:26:354 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - nothing wrong with this when considered alone, however I think it’s gonna pose problems in more intense sections later in the song ( mostly your kiais I guess ) since to show them more intense through spacing you’ll have to make cross-screen jumps or something, and you might end up with something rather forced, so i’d nerf those last jumps especially since those are pretty much the root of the problem if you consider it mapped in sections, I don't see it posing any such issues.

01:28:640 (1,2) - same thing as 01:24:069 (1,2,3,4) ( even the same notes ), so why is rhythm different ? a little variation never hurts

01:30:354 (5) - fine as it is, however I would consider making this a slider to fill in the gap at 01:30:497 ( but again, it’s fine without this as well ) I like the pause. the vocals pause too

01:32:069 - back at it again with making the downbeat non-clickable :< also, this flows weirdly because 01:32:211 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) is not in the direction that is implied by 01:31:926 (5)’s shape fixed

01:36:640 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this is nearly not as spaced as the similar part from before, yet I can hear the guitar following the vocals even more here, giving it even more intensity [/color] it follows the guitar's decrease in pitch

01:42:354 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - bruh c’mon, the kicks are doubling and you do such a low spacing stream ? theres a long pause.. I want to keep playability and fun in mind with this map and rank it if possible. You're absolutely right here, but the way I see it, this stream kind of leads into the more spaced one right after it. this is how i've set up almost every stream in the map, starting low spacing, tuning it up

02:05:211 (1) - might just be me but I don’t think this looks really good

02:06:354 (1,2,3,4) - triple is at 02:06:569, not there fixd

02:37:211 and all the phrase - same consistency mistakes as before, not gonna repeat them cause it would be rather redundant I uhh.. left most things from earlier alone here

03:00:069 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - why such a low spacing compared to the similar part before ? before part is now low spacing :^)

03:23:069 (1) - I don’t get what exactly this spinner ends on ? I’d suggest ending it at 03:25:362 since it’s where the voice stops fixed

04:11:844 (1) - bruh this completely kills the intensity :< I think it helps build it with suspense, maybe thats just me trying too hard tto be artsy lol

04:20:130 (5) - why put a kickslider there ? I don’t hear any sound that calls for it ( but I might be wrong ) the sounds are the strongest out of everything so I wanted to emphasize differently.

04:53:059 (1) - 01:22:354 (1,2,3,4,5,6) had stuff on there, why put a spinner ? becaause of the complicated timiinig change. Players would HURT if I had mapped that paart, which I easily could copy/paste, but it's for playability sake

05:13:000 (1,3) - what are those snapped to ? I mean 05:13:857 (3)’s head is fine but what about the rest ? ghosted a little? I'm not sure if this is an unrankable issue here.

05:54:630 (8) - If you wanted to change direction on the voice, it’s at 05:54:558 (7) ( generally speaking, don’t change direction on blue ticks unless there’s a distinguishable sound in the music that calls for it, because there’s a good chance you’re gonna end up with a direction change with nothing to justify its positioning ) actuallly the directional change here was kind of not intentional lul, it depends if its too much of a change

06:17:701 (5,1) - back at it again with red tick sliders DansGamefixed ALL

That’s all I have to say so far, I gotta say I’ll be keeping an eye at this map cause song is op and I wanna see it ranked

Good luck with pushing it :3

Renumi wrote:

tags :thinking:

w

Xinying wrote:

Renumi wrote:

tags :thinking:

w

he meant remove the "No" and "Wo" from tags, you don't need it there because they are already in the title (eg, Tags: Kuzu no Honkai, and Song: Uso no Hibana)

Hence metadata is this (song in question)

[Muchanzy] wrote:

noob mod inc

01:42:354 (1) - feels lika a kiai part should start here ye i agree

04:20:416 (8) - maybe make this slider 1 tick longer? ehh nah I dont want it to play like that

consider adding "Symphonic Black Metal" to tags cuz they will prolly just add "Rock" to the genre later on done

my shitty attempt

better than me

lilligantEX wrote:

nice map

02:00:926 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - this star's shape is a little weird use
02:12:069 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - ^ same here
06:22:987 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^

just in general the stars have odd shapes, use ctrl+shift+D or rotation

[Nemesis] wrote:

Sup, doing a M4M.

Hakai

00:03:783 (2,4,6,1) - I don't really like how this look, aesthetically speaking. I'd much rather like if you made it into one straight line of circles eh, not sure its necessary really, plus I kind of like it
00:17:783 (9) - NC for better reading fixd thanks
00:19:497 (1,2,1) - a 1/4 gap and no gap has the same ds, this isn't really too good and breaks expectations from the players (equally spaced objects should corespond with their equal snapping on the timeline) the distance is so small that it really doesnt matter, kind of getting nitpicky here, I don't think it justifies a change
00:26:497 (1,2) - remove NC, add NC on (2) put it on the downbeat instead for consistency
00:47:783 (10,11,12,13,1) - this is where spacing should start to increase, however you only chose to increase it on the last three objects, why? his vocal gets much more tense on (13)
00:55:497 (4,5) - blanket these, you've been doing this numerous times before not necessary imo
01:11:497 (9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - increase spacing between these, the music is changing there yet it isn't reflected through ds changes
01:16:069 (9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - ^ I really don't hear many music changes, others have said there is a possible 1/6 there, I don't want to add a 1/6 rhythm though and cheesing it with spacing wouldnt be any better
02:15:497 (1,2,3) - equal spacings between these would be better, you have little to no change in music there what do you mean?
02:21:068 (7,8,1) - this should be a slider not sure about that I literally only use circles in this section and my current emphasis works
02:50:640 (3,1) - double blanket there would look really neat changed
03:11:783 (2) - a triple fits better with the bgm
03:16:354 (2) - ^ i dont think so, i've simplified triples into sliders all of the map so its not like its coming from nowhere either, im mapping to vocals here
03:16:354 (2,1) - stack these btw What why lol
03:34:924 - this should be mapped imo I think its so beautiful and I want players to hear it from a break and then jump back into the rhythm once they've listened to it for a bit, I could map tho if need be
04:53:059 - again, I know it's pretty hard to emphasize but the spinner feels like a lazy way to fill in the rhythm theres an offset change here I cant work my way around that without throwing some playability out the door
05:28:422 - this point onwards is freaking gorgeous, I suggest you put the preview point here preference
05:38:130 (1,2,3) - same problem as before with the spacing inconsistencies Yeah the spacing is very clearly inconsistent here I like how it plays though
05:51:987 (1,2,3) - idk, a straight line would fit in a bit better nitpicky
06:03:844 (7,8,9,1,2,3) - either equal spacings or if you prefer to go by vocals intensity, bigger sv on the second slider not sure theres been an SV change in this entire map lmao it would be out of place also why equal spacings???

All from me, good map and good song.

Touhou wrote:

SPOILER

cut stuff out
23:15 Touhou: 05:28:987 (1) -
23:15 Touhou: I feel like this part onwards
23:15 Touhou: is a bit too intense
23:15 Touhou: maybe reduce spacing ?
23:16 Touhou: try to make the stream follow the vocals?
23:16 Touhou: 05:28:987 (1) - kaaaaa
23:16 Touhou: 05:29:415 (3) - naaaaaa
23:16 Touhou: 05:29:844 (9) - eeeeeen
23:16 Touhou: make the stream change shape during those long vocal parts
23:16 Touhou: or something
23:16 Touhou: that reflects the music a lot better
23:17 Touhou: 05:34:844 (2) - this sound needs clap mate
23:17 Touhou: it's the snare
23:17 Gus: alright ill make a note and play around with that
23:17 Touhou: clap = stick sound in the song
23:17 Touhou: 05:33:558 (1) - finish, not clap
23:17 Touhou: 05:33:702 (2) - clap
23:17 Touhou: 05:33:986 (5) - clap
23:17 Touhou: sometimes clap is on red ticks instead of white
23:17 Touhou: in this section it's the case
23:18 Gus: fixed those
23:18 Gus: thanks
23:18 Touhou: thing is
23:18 Gus: ill update when I fix the stream
23:19 Touhou: fixing hitsounds is like super time cunsoming
23:19 Touhou: I usually do finishes first
23:19 Touhou: then claps
23:19 Touhou: then whistles
23:19 Touhou: so I need to listen to it three times
23:19 Touhou: 00:43:211 (6) - claps
23:20 Gus: for just (6)?
23:20 Gus: or should all the whistles be claps
23:20 Touhou: use 0% effect volume
23:20 Touhou: try to find the same sound
23:20 Touhou: if you find it
23:20 Touhou: use clap
23:21 Touhou: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zde7bb1vBKA
23:21 Touhou: watch this
23:21 Touhou: it's a different song
23:21 Touhou: but you can get the idea for what sounds to look for
23:21 Touhou: I will give you " cheat sheet " in a second
23:23 Gus: oh I see
23:23 Gus: what sound exactly should the whistle follow here though?
23:24 Gus: I see the finish and the clap
23:26 Touhou: finished
23:27 Touhou: http://puu.sh/wEStS/ba3bc9887c.jpg
23:27 Touhou: paint ftw
23:28 Touhou: for the yellow writing I made a mistake it's like this:
23:28 Touhou: sampleset: AUTOOOOO not normal
23:28 Touhou: addition: DRUM
23:28 Touhou: enjoy hitsounds like mine
23:29 Touhou: if you use this technique
23:31 Touhou: fix the entire song with proper hitsounding
23:31 Touhou: after you've done that, I'll get in contact with BN and maakkeli xd
23:32 Touhou: 01:27:069 (6) - those are all claps btw
23:32 Touhou: 01:27:354 (8) - etc
23:32 Touhou: all red ticks here
23:33 Gus: holy
23:33 Gus: thank you dude
23:34 Touhou: np
23:34 Gus: this cheat sheet is great
23:34 Touhou: hitsounding with touhou
23:34 Touhou: lul
23:35 Gus: how wrong is my current hitsounding
23:35 Touhou: ehhhh
23:35 Touhou: it was good enough to let me play it properly
23:35 Touhou: but not good enough for ranking
23:35 Touhou: do a backup
23:35 Touhou: then "rehitsound"
23:36 Touhou: save a copy of your current version somewhere
23:36 Touhou: or just rename diff to "old hitsounds"

cut stuff out

23:36 Touhou: btw every drum set is SLIGHTLY different
23:37 Touhou: the clap (snare) is the base of everything, it's mostly inbetween the legs
23:37 Touhou: the toms are over it (drum - clap and drum - finish )
23:37 Touhou: the whistle is super close to the snare (clap)
23:37 Touhou: and the finishes are randomly inbetween or somewhere further away
23:38 Touhou: there are quite a few different versions of finishes, some are "crash" cymbals and others are "splash" cymbals
23:38 Touhou: but you should not worry about that

cut stuff out

00:03 Touhou: ok let me try
00:03 Touhou: to mod
00:03 *Touhou is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1152956 Imperial Circus Dead Decadence - Gekiai no Yobigoe ga Dekiai no Kyougoe wo Kurau [Hakai]]
00:04 Touhou: check the first combo
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00:04 Touhou: that's the proper rhythm of the guitars
00:04 Touhou: every circle I placed here should have emphasis
00:04 Touhou: (the circles only represent the basic rhythm, not the drum filling stuff)
00:04 Touhou: what you should do
00:05 Touhou: is set emphasis to this by spacing and angles
00:05 Touhou: parts that are intense need more emphasis
00:05 Touhou: so basically, I would reduce the overall spacing in this section and ONLY have jumps during the parts where the melody / guitar really stands out
00:06 Touhou: that way you get contrast and depth
00:06 Gus: yeah alright
00:07 Gus: I had something like that earlier but
00:07 Gus: it didnt end up playing too well
00:08 Touhou: 00:02:354 (1) - this part here
00:09 Touhou: it sounds like a big DOOOOOH
00:09 Touhou: extended sound, use slider
00:09 Touhou: 00:02:640 (3) - slider end is too loud, no slider here
00:09 Touhou: make it like this
00:10 Touhou: http://puu.sh/wEU9V/de70299425.jpg
00:10 Touhou: since this would be too boring
00:10 Touhou: 00:03:211 - replace the last slider by 2 circles
00:10 Touhou: that way you get more impact on the next slider
00:10 Touhou: and challenge the player a bit more
00:11 Touhou: since it's a held sound though, I would stack those circles
00:11 Gus: alright, youll be posting this on forum too right?
00:11 Touhou: so basically this http://puu.sh/wEUcS/235d60a1c3.jpg
00:11 Gus: bc im slow at modding IRC
00:11 Touhou: but with stacked 5 and 6
removed some stuff
00:12 Touhou: Instead of focusing on "fix this pattern"
00:12 Touhou: I try to give you a general idea on what you should work on
00:12 Touhou: 1.) focus on the vocals -> melody -> instruments
00:12 Touhou: 2.) set emphasis
00:12 Touhou: 3.) use proper object for the rhythm
00:13 Touhou: 01:42:354 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) -
00:13 Touhou: about this part
00:13 Touhou: follow the vocals with the streams
00:13 Touhou: every syllable should be represented in a way in your streams
00:13 Touhou: the easiest way would be changing shapes / direction of aim
00:13 Touhou: PLEASE don't do stream jumps
00:14 Touhou: 01:46:926 (1,2,3) - about this
00:14 Touhou: I would reduce the sliders, ending on red
00:14 Touhou: and adding a circle
00:15 Gus: ooh you're right
00:15 Touhou: http://puu.sh/wEUoM/b096f5052a.jpg
00:15 Touhou: something like this
00:15 Touhou: the triplet has vocals too
00:15 Touhou: but using too many sliders in a row is boring
00:15 Touhou: and the drums offer a triplet
00:15 Gus: yeah I dig it
00:15 Touhou: so map that instead
00:15 Gus: I will
00:16 Touhou: 01:47:283 - add circle here btw
00:16 Touhou: didn't hear it before
00:16 Touhou: 01:47:711 - don't add a circle here
00:16 Touhou: it would lose the vocal emphasis if you do
00:17 Touhou: the drum has a sound here, yes, but it's too confusing and not matching the vocals
00:17 Gus: on blue ticks?
00:17 Touhou: yeah
00:17 Touhou: slow it down to 25 % speed
00:17 Touhou: and use 0% effect volume
00:17 Touhou: to spot the triplets properly
00:18 Touhou: same applies for this part aswell 01:48:069 (1) -
00:18 Touhou: shorten some sliders, and replace some by circles maybe
00:18 Touhou: 01:49:211 (1) - replace by circles entirely
00:18 Touhou: make them emphasis the vocals though
00:18 Touhou: the vocals are fading out, so the spacing should be decreased
00:19 Touhou: or atleast similar spacing
00:19 Gus: I see yeah
00:19 Touhou: 01:58:354 (1,2,3) - I would use a slider here
00:19 Touhou: very long sound
00:19 Touhou: so a 1/1 slider
00:19 Touhou: I know there is a snare inbetween the slider
00:20 Touhou: but the guitar is pretty dominant
00:20 Touhou: 02:11:640 (2,3,4) - doesn't really fit
00:20 Touhou: instead focus on the background melody and do 2 sliders
00:21 Touhou: basically this
00:21 Touhou: http://puu.sh/wEUER/ec73e7b85f.jpg
00:21 Gus: 02:11:640 (2) - starting here?
00:21 Touhou: starting on white tick
00:22 Touhou: ORRRRR you make it one large slider ending on the red tick
00:22 Touhou: before the new combo
00:22 Touhou: I prefer the larger slider actually
00:22 Touhou: it covers the entire sound of the guitar
00:23 Touhou: http://puu.sh/wEUJi/6bd67efa34.jpg
00:23 Gus: hm ill play around
00:23 Touhou: works best
00:23 Touhou: remember, it's about setting emphasis
00:23 Touhou: if you use circles and jumps everywhere
00:23 Touhou: the map becomes boring
00:24 Gus: yeah of course
00:24 Gus: finally a good mod LOl
00:24 Touhou: really?
00:24 Touhou: be honest
00:24 Gus: yes I'm going to change quite a bit


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TL;DR

Playtest and Mod about Hitsounds while explaining drums in general.
Also explained the importance of proper emphasis.

Poke me after you've fixed what we talked about and I'll mod it further.
Take this Star and GL!