onislaughter wrote:

Genre: Symphonic / Melodic Death / Black Metal
Album: Kurooshiku Saita Seisan Na Mukuro Wa Kanaderu, Itooshiku Saita Shoujo Wa Seisen No Kotoba Wo Utau (uh, i think you should add it to tags)

fix some aimod issues too


cant believe i forgot to check aimod lol. fixed!

01:41:211 (9) - 03:01:211 (17) - and etc. i think you should add nc to this notes like you did it here 01:12:068 (1) -
fixed all


242702ms is better for the last timing point, i think

modder below you also commented on timing, ill prob end up fixing it all with his mod, thank you

realized he didnt comment on this, so edit: fixed!

05:15:280 (5) - the end of this slider a little confusing
unintentional, fixed!

06:30:708 (9) - nc, please
fixed

nice streams. good luck!
no kudosu. my mod is useless

TheKingHenry wrote:

Hello! M4M from my queue~
Since it looks like onislaughter was here before me I'm gonna avoid saying things he said already.

General´

1. Add the album to the tags in japanese as well (also while it probably doesn't matter that much in tags, note when adding the romaji album title that prepositions and such are not capitalized) done
2. I would add the project members names (both romaji and japanese), especially since many of them are mainly under other bands. Perhaps add these bands to the tags as well. I'll add these to the description later as I continue to push this map. i think the tags are already going wild ahaha
3. If you want to drown in tags you can do the same thing to the guest members on this album.
4. Add the japanese title, and use the current one as the romanised title. uhh... you'd need to help me with that lmao
5. Other than that the metadata seems fine, though even tho I can read some japanese I would still re-check everything, especially the romanisation of things, with some metadata veteran such as IamKwan. (I think he has metadata queue for that).
6. Source for information: ICDD official website. You can use this album page for more specific information about the album this song is from. ill see what i can understand from this!

1. Cool bg just sayin thanks
2. Since there were a lot of parts that were rhythmically mapped wrong/under/over, I'll list em here. Overmapping should ofc be removed, and I really recommend you to add the undermapped parts. This is marathon map, hardest diff, supposed to be hella intense, just map everything there is to reasonably map. It will represent the music better and at the same time, make the map more spicy and interesting too. I see that at some points you had decided to map vocals instead, leading to not mapping something or mapping it differently as the instrumentical rhythm indicates. In map like this though, I would definitely go for more of an instrumental mapping since that's where all the rhythm game shit happens in these kind of songs.
3. 00:26:783 (4,5,6) - there ain't triple here in the music. On the other hand, under 00:26:783 (4) - there is one I actually hear this just fine.
4. 00:26:783 (4) - same here, it's where the slider 3 begins
5. 00:30:069 (2,3) - triple not mapped
6. 00:31:354 (3,4,5) - triple again not here, but 1/2 beat earlier, under the slider3 but the guitar sound has 3 distinct pitches here, which is what im emphasizing
7. 00:33:783 (7) - triple not mapped
8. 00:36:069 (7,8) - triple not mapped
9. 00:36:069 (7,8) - ^ im emphasizing vocals here
10. 00:39:640 (6,7) - ^ sound is too weak for me to break the 1/2 jumps for
11. 00:41:497 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - neither of these triples exist in the music, same with 00:42:354 (1,2,3) - my bad. fixed! good catch.
12. 00:42:354 (1,2,3) - triple not mapped uh what? you just said there's no triple, then said there should be? i think it sounds better as no triple
13. 00:44:069 (4,5,6) - triple not here but 1/2 beat later i hear this
14. 00:44:926 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - again neither of these triples exist in the music i hear this
15. 00:46:497 (5,6,7,8,9,1) - triples should start at the white ticks, 1/2 beat earlier. Actually, there are similar triples beginning at the white tick all the way till 00:48:069 (1) except during the last 2 beats there's 4th note too as you've mapped - 00:46:925 (1,2,3,4) - are undermapped anyways fixed ty!
16. 00:48:354 (2) - triple not mapped vocals
17. 00:52:926 (2,3) - ^ ^
18. 00:53:783 (1,2,3) - there isn't triple here in the music hear this one.. :/
19. 00:54:354 (4,5,6) - this triple should be 1/2 earlier, where the slider now begins mapping to guitar..
20. 00:55:211 (3) - triple not mapped vocal section
21. 00:56:069 (6,7,8) - there isn't triple here, in the middle of 00:56:497 (8) - there is one though its still vocal section, the 8 slider represents that. as for the triple, its ghost noted for emphasis, but lll change this if its just simply too much.
22. 00:57:926 (4,5,6) - there isn't triple here
23. 00:58:354 (1,2,3) - ^ tried to map the screaming and the instruments, so thats why triples here, its to try to emphasize the entirity of the song at this point
24. 00:58:783 (5,6,7) - this triple should being 1/2 beat later Fixed.
25. 00:59:640 (2,3,4) - ^ vocal emphasis
26. 01:01:211 - triple almost completely not mapped vocal emphasis
27. 01:02:211 (5,6,7) - this should begin 1/2 beat earlier If I were emphasizing the instruments, maybe
28. 01:03:497 - triple not mapped mang
29. 01:03:783 (4,5,6,7,8) - overmapped does it not fit tho
30. 01:10:926 - there's 1/6 burst of 4 notes here, you have mapped 1/4 stream. It's true that it continues as such from that point on though. Also the 1/4 is mapped pretty spacingly considering the drumming is barely audible until the last 2 beats of the measure. I recommend mapping the burst in and then using kicksliders until the drumming kicks audibly in again.
31. 01:15:497 - same here ^
32. 01:20:069 - ^ I'm actually going to have to investigate this on my own and get more opinions on the 1/6th sound, I don't really hear it, and it isnt audible enough to me to make a difference, the stream is fine for me, but i will see what players and mappers think, need more input here.
33. 01:22:354 (1) - nothing wrong with this but I cry inside when you have mapped the cool drum fill with spinner. Also add one 6/4 timing point here since the rhythm emphasis changes here as you can see. One only tho, and after the measure change back to 4/4. you're going to have to be more clear what you mean exactly
34. 01:25:783 (1) - you are clearly going for the vocals here but triple missed anyways
35. 01:28:926 (4,5) - ^
36. 01:30:354 (1) - ^
37. 01:30:926 (4) - ^ vocals.. heh
38. 01:32:211 (7,8,9,10,11,12,1) - overmapped fitting imo
39. 01:33:069 - triple not mapped
40. 01:33:211 (2) - same in the last 1/2 of this slider
41. 01:38:068 (2) - triple not mapped
42. 01:39:497 (1) - ^
43. 01:47:211 - ^
44. 01:47:783 - ^
45. 01:48:354 (5) - ^
46. 01:48:926 (7) - ^
47. 01:49:640 - ^ surely you can tell what im emphasizing in all of these parts?
    Okay at this point you prob know what's the drill already. I'm gonna focus on bigger things now. Check all the triples yourself, using 50% speed and rotating between the map itself and timing window (so the hitsounds don't distract you) is a good way. I'll make sure my other triples in the map are on the correct beats, but I don't think I'll add many just bc of what I'm emphasizing.
48. 01:49:783 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - this stream should start 1/2 later. On the other hand it goes up till 01:50:926 (1) - the jumps emphasize sound changes, the stream i think is fine where it starts? i will try my best to listen closely but it seems alright
49. 01:53:783 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - overmapped i think its fine
50. 02:03:211 (1,2) - you could execute this blanket betterit looks good to me as is
51. 02:16:640 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,1) - this whole section is overmapped, it's only 1/3. There is, however, drum 1/4 at some points and if you want you can spice the stream up with those.
52. 02:28:640 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - from this onwards we can see the drum 1/4 as you've mapped them. Before this, and after the actual stream part, however, there is this random part 02:26:354 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - where you aren't mapping the guitar but neither are you mapping the drums fully. definitely going to have to look at how to change this section. I'll listen carefully and see what to do.
53. 02:31:211 (3,4,5,6) - this should be stream of 5 notes fixd
54. 03:00:069 - same deal as with these patterns before. Here in these ones you have like 4 times smaller spacing than in the first ones tho. If you won't use kickslider, atleast use lower spacing like this since the drum is relatively quiet. may see some changes here eventually
55. For the slow part beginning from 03:22:926 - use following timing
    Offset: 202 926ms BPM: 79,97
    Offset: 238 189ms BPM: 79,00
    Offset: 238 948ms BPM: 79,75
    The first timing is relevant for almost the whole section, but it slows down a bit during the couple last beats, therefore the second timing point. The 3rd one is for the beat where there is 03:58:948 (8) - this kickslider. It snaps the timing back to the original. With this timing, the sound ≈ kickslider that is 5 1/12 notes long (one 1/3 beat all together that is). Use 5/4 for the 3rd timing point if you want to snap it perfectly. Fixed, thank you.
56. 04:11:851 (1) - I wouldn't be using this many/long kicksliders since this is one of the most intense parts in the song. If you use kicksliders like this tho, try to blanket the streams with em or do something else visually appealing emphasis, i think its already pretty appealing
57. 04:30:137 (1) - insert the triples in the music for this section. Fits perfectly I think a 1/2 jump section captures the song better than if I were to add triples, the vocals are so strong.
58. 04:41:566 - for 3rd time these sections. Same drill may see some changes here
59. 05:12:994 - yes uta has this kind of section. Gekiai doesn't there is literally almost nothing in the music at this point. reworked it. it should sound more fitting, i did keep a few 1/3 stacks here, tho
60. 05:30:137 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - be consistent. In this stream section you first decide to radically change the direction at vocal changes, then later with the same things you use smooth circular shapes. the first vocas are more overpoweringl
61. 05:54:137 - I would kiai this stream instead of the last jump section, but that might just be me. y not both
62. 06:10:137 - add the triples to this jump section as well. Triples work rly well in jump sections. again i like the 1/2 emphasis here
63. I won't link anything for this, but just realized during the latter half of the map you had some pretty weird NC places at times, like beginning new combo 1/2 before white tick or continuing old combo over white tick even tho things changed. Check those. went through and tried to fix

Focused on rhythm this time since that's what caught my eye. Now that I checked Uta has pretty much stuff not mapped too hmmm...
Good luck!
can i gd if you get this forward at some point

Hobbes2 wrote:

I'm not too great at modding 7 stars, but I'll give it my best shot

00:03:497 (1) - I think there should be a NC here There should be, for the downbeat, but it messes with my emphasis at this particular part. I don't think I absolutely need to NC.. do i tho?

00:05:926 (2) - I think this note would do better near the x180 y80 area, so that 00:05:640 (6,1,2) - isn't such a wide angle ayy nothin wrong with wide angles my dude

00:10:069 (1,4) - Make these parallel? would screw up snap too much

00:19:497 (3,4) - and 00:20:354 (4,1) - have virtually the same visual spacing but they have different timeline gaps, might want to increase the spacing to 4 its for the explosion effect that 1 produces, for emphasis sake

00:25:211 (1,2) - Something like this looks better - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6787181 I think fixed! Thanks dude

00:27:354 - drum and vocal here you're skipping, I'd map this eh.. but im not emphasizing either with the intended pattern... its a strong beat but I think the guitar is stronger here.

00:28:640 (6) - This looks REALLY weird lol, mostly because of the loop tried to patch it up?

00:29:497 (8,1) - Fix blanket~ I think fixed.

00:35:640 - this is an important drum in the rhythm and I recommend mapping it ehh... again with different emphasis, ill keep this one open, im fine changing it here if more ppl think it needs to be mapped

00:40:783 (6) - should have way less spacing imo, its a very unimportant note in the music keeping it this way for flow purposes and to help emphasize 7 & 8 better

00:43:211 (7,8,1,2) - im no pro player but this looks like it would be really awkward to play because of the angles its probably a challenging flow here, yeah I see it, but I think its fine

00:49:926 (1) - I can get why this is such a long slider, but it shouldn't skipping over the downbeat at the least will also leave this one open, its clear vocal emphasis but if it doesnt fit then it doesnt fit I guess, I think it is fine as is, though.

01:00:783 (1) - I appreciate the shape you're going for but you need more slider points, try something more like this - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6787212 (ignore timeline) tyty

01:02:926 (1,2) - move so that 1 is stacked under 01:01:783 (4); looks like that was the intention but its messed up by the stack with 2 uh I think fixed? didnt change anything here it just resnapped itself

01:04:069 (1) - NC, and make the spacing between it and 01:04:641 (2) - more obvious by increasing it NC'd, but no change to the spacing, trying to create a slowdown here

01:06:354 (1) - this is skipping over some cool drum stuff :/ fixed testplayers were also having trouble with the slider shape unfortunately.

01:13:497 (2) - this loop shape is driving me nuts lol its so cool tho imo

01:14:925 (6,7,1) - again, increase spacing so the gap between 7 and 1 being 1/1 is more obvious i dont think its necessary here

01:25:211 (5) - new line of vocals starts here, but it continues the circle pattern of 01:24:783 (2,3,4). I suggest starting a new pattern here eh but... not necessary really at this point, they're similar pitch and intensity

01:27:783 (7,1) - blanket? wait are they not blanketed yo

01:31:783 - wouldn't skip this vocal emphasis my dude

01:41:211 (9) - NC, I think no reason to, not downbeat

01:45:782 (9) - kickslider should start here to match the previous stream and the vocals fixed, thanks!

01:45:782 (9) - vocal starts here, which is important because it seems you're following the vocals in this part fixed xd

01:51:211 - wouldn't skip this Again, vocal emphasis

02:12:069 - should be mapped im obvs goin for the guitar here, idk, will leave this open

02:28:926 (3,4,5,6) - could be a 5 note burst, there's a sound to support it fixed

02:36:354 (6) - NC? makes 02:35:211 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - their own combos which is neat kinda messes the NC up tho, i think its fine?

02:42:211 (1,2,3,1) - akward to play because its linear circles with a big spacing disparity emphasis purposes, but ill consider changing here if i get more feedback for it

02:53:783 (5) - NC and 02:54:640 (9) - NC I think. fiuxed

02:59:640 (7,1) - like before, 1/1 gaps like these should be spaced appropriately. pls boss but do they rly gotta be

Gonna pause, will edit with rest of the mod in a bit

Sharo- wrote:

i pmed u ingame just so u know who it is

00:41:497 (2) - i feel this and 00:41:926 (4) - and 00:42:354 (1) - are a little too close to the previous slider, the jumps before it were big and its still the same section of the song basically so it would make sense if these were similar distances apart fixed

00:47:497 (6) - this stream is like in the hp drain bar idk if thats okfixed

01:04:641 (2) - think this stream beginning is too close to the previous slider, maybe move the whole stream to the left and rotate it slightly counterclockwise so it doesnt go off the map eh but i think its fine, theres a pause in the music so i dont want to emphasize it with too much distance imo

01:31:497 (5) - snap this slider end to the next blue tick before the white tick like this
it goes with the vocals more which i think thats what u were goin for going for vocals but theres also an instrument hit on the red tick which i think is too strong to not emphasize at this point

01:45:783 (1) - id make this repeat slider until the next stream starts vocal emphasis w the pause there

01:51:069 (2) - maybe put a note somewhere on the white tick after this so it doesnt just stop the flow of movement in the middle of the music section vocals bruhh

02:00:354 (2) - from here to the end of this slider 02:02:354 (7) - move them a little to the right, since the beginning note (the 2) is a little too close to the previous slider i dont think its too close tho

02:02:926 (1) - start a new combo here making this 02:04:497 (6) - the last note of the combo fixd

02:12:354 (1) - id have this end on the white tick right before the spinner, having it where u stopped it it kinda awkward red tick noise is stronger though

02:49:783 (1) - put a slider after this maybe under the end of it and pointing it towards the next slider, it feels awkward just stopping there vocals emphasisss boyo

03:18:354 (1) - new combo, 03:18:783 (1) - new combo, 03:19:211 (1) - new combo, and maybe add some notes after it so it doesnt stop there just because the vocals stop your NCs are off.. but i fixed the one that was actually off in the map, and nahh its vocal emphasis so it would end there

04:32:273 (1) - id make this the start for the next combo after it so that 04:33:416 (9) - ends on a 9 and this combo ends here 04:32:131 (7) but the downbeat isnt here?

05:10:130 (9) - have this end with a 9 and the new combo start on the slider uhh.. downbeat is not there

05:10:416 (1) - and with the next combo have it end on this 05:11:844 (8) - then make it so these 6 notes 05:12:130 (1) - are a NC ^

05:28:987 (1) - NC

05:37:273 (1) - no NC here idk if ur ncs were right but other modder helped me fix ncs in this area so

05:41:273 (2) - it shouldnt just stop here like that after the slider somehow keep the rhythm going here sure it should! vocal emphasis

05:52:702 (2) - same here but this could easily be fixed by just putting a cirlce on the white tick after it ^

06:00:987 (4) - put a circle instead of a slider and move the spinner to the blue tick before the white tick it was previously on and extend it to the red tick it ended on previously im confused as to why tho

06:10:129 (8) - starting from here and maybe on the stream before it, the new combos start at weird spots so go back and mess around with a few of them so the new combos go with the rhythm not sure whatchu mean but fixed???

06:28:416 (1) - have a NC here and 06:29:559 (1) - here ? ncs are accurate here

ill go ahead and shoot ur map a kudosu since i rly like it so i hope at least some of this stuff wasnt too picky and helped u ;;

Rabbit Urabe wrote:

Hi hi~

[box=Rabbit]01:07:783 Repeat Slider ahh but emphasizing specific sounds here
01:12:354 Slider or Repeat Slider ^
01:47:354 Stream ? vocal emphhasis
01:52:426 Circle very specific emphasis here tbh
02:07:426 Circle fixed ty!
02:14:354 - 02:16:354 Stream and sliders no sounds here to support a stream, theres a slider there isnt there tho
02:35:211 Repeat slider here im emphasizing a very precise sound
02:35:783 Repeat slider ^
02:50:354 Slider or Repeat slider Actually may see some changes here coming, probably not, but this is more vocal emphasis again
02:53:354 Circle fairly weak sound imo
02:56:783 Slider or Repeat slider I think the circles better emphasize and prepare the player for a tense pause here
02:59:926 Circle v
02:59:997 Circle v
03:01:283 Slider ahh i like the pauses here tho! they make the explosions just so much more intense
03:19:569 Slider vocal emphasis here
04:20:844 Slider the sliders here go with a certain beat, so to put one there would mess up my emphasis
04:37:059 Spin nah i'd rather this be a pause, same with below
04:38:130 Slider

Catshy wrote:

Hey! hey
Here's my little mod from #modreqs



[box=Hymn]00:33:211 (5,7) - fix blanketfixed!
00:47:497 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1) - that stack needs to be moved (some people use bigger hp bars and it might be problematic), maybe try something like this? fixed in Sharo's mod! ty though I decided to make it a little more linear to avoid any overlaps and keep flow going in a way
00:49:926 (1) - even if you map to vocals, it feels kinda weird; how about something like that? hmm.. good suggestion but no changes here, i think the way it functions doesnt necessarily warrant a change as of now
00:55:783 (5) - blanket? I think it fits better as the stack with 00:54:640 (6)
01:00:640 (1,3) - you could make it a bit more curvy for sweet blanket oh god I want to but idk how bro LOL like I cant fix this slider any better.. heLP
02:03:211 (1,2) - you're missing 2 notes here (how about that? 1, 2 not sure how i'd make this work, i think my current emphasis is fine here, but ill look back if i need more to change it
02:25:640 - triple here
02:26:640 - 5 notes here
02:27:497 - 3 again
02:28:354 - 3
02:28:926 - 5 fixed any and ALL timing issues in this section with my final remap here.
03:27:800 - I'd extend spinner untill that point changed, but in diff way, just extended it to the timing point, whjich is a strong sound to end it on
03:46:738 (1) - either remove that first circle or map that part 03:34:925 -, because that's where bridge starts (I'd recommend mapping it ) uhh.. no change here for now but ill consider mapping the part, the first circle is there for the piano sound.. ill seriously consider mapping this part, though
05:28:987 - make a timing point here for better nc(you'll know what to do after few combos) fixed
05:28:987 (5) - nc
05:29:273 (5) - un- nc :/
05:30:558 (1) - un- nc
05:30:987 (1) - un- nc
05:31:273 (5) - nc
05:31:344 (1) - un- nc
05:31:629 (1) - un- nc fixed ALL THESE

I hope you get the point now...(fix ncs )

05:40:416 (8) - fix blanket
05:54:130 - make another timing point for same purpose as earlier fixed
06:03:559 (5,2) - fix blanket

lazyboy007 wrote:

Hey for M4M

[General]

1. Check AIMod, some kiai ends aren't snapped ahh, 1 ms off with new timing point change in last mods...
2. Combo colors look perfect ty!
3. Your set is barely above 10MB, I'd suggest getting a version of the mp3 >128 kbps, though not needed if needed I'll do it tho
4. BG size is goodyeee

[Mapping]

1. Your slider design is somewhat sloppy. Sliders like 00:45:497 (7) - and 00:53:926 (3) - are really good and should be used more often whereas your longer ones like 01:25:783 (1) - don't look good at all (imo). You should polish these shapes, make them look aesthetically pleasing (it's mainly this one that looks odd, most of the rest are ok). But even those that are aesthetically pleasing don't really fit with each other. You should on similar parts have similar slider design philosophies. I agree at, but I actually changed the part at 53:926 because I felt like it was unfitting; it was the only place in the map I used that slider pattern.. so I mean, changed, but in a diff way here lol. I know you praised that slider but I felt like it was just too unfitting compared to some other patterns that I actually established and used throughout the map.
   
   01:25:783 (1) - I'm going to keep this just because I feel like it represents the vocals in a good way, the singer has a lot going on there, pitch-wise.
   
2. You're missing a lot of blankets in the map. Many of your sliders look like they should blanket, but they don't, gonna list a few here: sliders like 02:40:354 (2,3)fixed - , others like 03:17:211 (5,1) no blanket intentional here, but I did change the slidershape so that the AR circle blankets #5 at its peak, so it at least looks a little better - , and mostly 03:54:238 (6,7) - these I think that particular part is fine as is, im not really going for perfect blanket here, just to have circle in between the notes
3. A few of your deathstream sections could have a bit more variety. Take 03:06:926 - this part. You really should try making it so that there's a kickslider every time the vocals come up, so you both stream and play the vocals at once. On the first part of that stream you could have a kickslider on 03:06:926 - 03:07:354 - and 03:07:783 - and streams in between, it'd play nicely, make the aiming of that stream more challenging and both fit the deathstream criteria and follow the vocals. Also it'd lead in well to the repeat sliders, indicating at what rhythm they should be played. Hmm.. no changes here for now, I kind of like how it plays at this section, not sure the extra emphhasis is a necessity
4. 05:12:987 - Not sure this part is in 1/3, idk why you mapped repeat sliders or streams there either this part should really just be long sliders and low SV ur right i shouldnt have overmapped it so much, fixed (kept a few repeat sliders but thats it)
5. You don't use spinners correctly imo, mainly towards the end. On sections like 06:05:630 (1) - you should map stuff still as the intensity is way too high to disregard it. But I know you're following the vocals and that's why you did it, so what I suggest is just putting less clickable objects, more sliders so it feels less highlighted than the vocal parts. But definitely don't ignore these by putting spinners, spinners are for long drawn out sounds or rising sounds that can't be mapped with jumps or streams. hmm.. but are the vocals not drawn out sounds at this point that can be mapped with spinners? ill ask you about this ingame probably, but I'm thinking the spinners are fine on the grounds that the vocals are drawn out at this point..
6. 06:30:130 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - I know it's a 7* but this is a tac bit over the top I think :^) looks good thohehe... no change, gotta have that last stream its looks so dope

[Combo Patterns]

1. Mostly perfect, but sometimes you end a stream but don't NC the last note, sometimes you do, compare 01:41:211 (9) - and 01:12:068 (1) - I suggest putting an NC on every last note of a stream personally fixed at 1:41 just due to multiple requests.. too small of a change to neglect I guess
2. You NC spammed a few times when you had a few repeat sliders in a row like 03:08:069 (1,1,1) - the NC is not needed I don't thinkfixed!

[Hitsounds]

1. I like the choice of the hs a lot All along the song the hs fit thank you!

[ Emillia ] wrote:

seems like a pretty good copy from uta xd

lego

[Hymn]

• super passionate about this band, so heres some metadata fix
  
  Title: 劇愛の呼声が溺哀の叫声を喰らう fixed
  Romanised Title: Gekiai no Yobigoe ga Dekiai no Kyougoe wo Kurau fixed
  Source: 狂おしく咲いた凄惨な骸は奏で、愛おしく裂いた少女は聖餐の詞を謳う。 fixed
  
  link to their store, 2nd track in the album
  
  the source here is basically the album name, but i'm not sure if you want to include this because i'm sure the title will go off the screen lol only one way to find out
  
  would suggest you use some other edgier diff name, like Uta's Himei (悲鳴, which translates to scream) or the other DoKito set's Kyouaku (凶悪, atrocity) fixed, hakai, which translates to "destroy"
  
  
  im p sure the offset is changed in some places

1. 01:24:069 - add red line here of same bpm (pls adjust the new combos accordingly) fixed
2. 03:24:237 - add red line here, bpm should be 160, i dont think 79.975 quite works fixed
3. 03:34:924 - add red line here, bpm should be 160 (same as before) fixed
4. 03:46:738 (1) - this note wont be necessary fixed ty
5. 04:54:702 - red line here of same bpm fixed
   
   actual mod now sry
   
   there are just major overarching issue with your map that i'd just like to point out, most of the things arent exactly specific (other than rhythm section)
   
   
   something along the lines of inconsistency with intensity and jumps. understandably you want to have some distance variation, but at times it gets to a point where it de-intensifies your map where the hitcircles are not placed far enough to still retain its intensity. here are some examples:
   
6. 00:02:069 (5,6,1,2) - compare 5,6 and 1,2, both are of similar intensity and yet 5,6 are way bigger jumps
7. 00:04:354 (1,2,1,2) -
8. 00:13:211 (6,7,1,2) - no changes here, 7 is as spaced as it is because combo consistency, 1 is as spaced as it is for emphasis on downbeat, 2 is as spaced as it is because im building intensity within the combo, this is applicable to everything in the first few minutes, but im responding backwards, so thats why I address it here as opposed to the above 2 instances.
9. 03:15:497 (1,2,3,4) - fixed, ya rly fucked up here ngl
   
   the timeskip was huge, i might've missed out a few along the way but do do a recheck for your whole map on this
   
   
   the other bulk issue is rhythm choices, but these i will go in depth
   
   
10. 00:18:354 (1,2,1) - genuinely dont hear a triplet here kinda sorta ghost noted it here lmao.. will change if need be but I think its smooth
11. 00:24:069 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - any reason for the inconsistent rhythm compared to 00:28:640 (1,2,3) - ? yes, difference in vocal length
12. 00:35:497 (1) - any reason for skipping out important drum beats? 00:35:640 - 00:35:783 - i dont know, i could definitely do it better here. fixed.
13. 00:49:926 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - imo too many skipped beats here, it plays rather uncomfortably fixed, to an extent, just fixed the really ugly slider there... but the other remain for vocal emphasis
14. 01:00:640 (1,2,3) - feels like you can incorporate a lot more beats here no changes, vocal emphasis here, clear and cut
15. 01:02:926 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2) - similarly^ nah, at these parts im bringing the map to a less intensity and using vocal emphasis, the song is slowing in preparation for 01:07:497 (1,2). although the music is less intense here and there is a clear difference, i decided to map a little more here, though, just added a few notes.
16. 01:08:926 (2,5) - would suggest making these 2 1/2 sliders each instead, because both their slidertails contain an important beat which i feel should be clickable
17. 01:10:497 (7) - ^
18. 01:10:497 (7,2,5,7) - similarly^ may look at this section as a whole and remap. not sure. so no changes for now, but your mod makes sense, i just need to think and implement and get more feedback on how to make it work.
19. 01:17:783 (1,2,3) - any reason for the inconsistency with 01:18:926 (1,2,3) - ? they sound similar imo ^^
20. 01:21:497 (2) - it feels like this reverse slider doesnt really do the intensity of the song justice agreed. fixed
21. 01:22:354 (1) - ee the spinner really kills the intensity of this part as well agreed. fixed
22. 01:25:783 (1) - 01:28:069 (1) - personally feel like this is covering too many drums, though its still fine as it is so its up to you
23. 01:30:926 (4) - similarly^ nahhh no changes here, this is vocal section
24. 01:31:926 (8) - you should make both head and tail clickable imo, both have important vocals no change for now, doesnt seem too necessary
25. 01:46:926 (1,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - transitions from drum to vocal here is very choppy imo, especially when they're basically of similar musical structure compared to 01:42:354 (1) - onwards. sidenote though, i really liked the reverse slider approach to mapping vocal here it's actually just unusual vocals im trying to emphasize
26. 01:51:354 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1) - similarly^ fixed here tho w reverse sliders
27. 01:54:926 (6) - ^ think its ok here though ngl
28. 01:58:354 (2,3,4,1) - missing on drum beats imo no changes, not trying to emphasize it there
29. 02:03:211 (1,2,3,4,1,1) - massive decrease in note density is quite disconcerting, would prefer it to be denser and harder unfortunately the guitar doesn't support such intensity at this place, which im emphasizizing bc its the strongest time
30. 02:07:640 (7,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,1) - too many long notes here that miss drums as well ^
    though because of some advice i changed some sliders around here, just visually
31. 02:14:354 (1) - i think this spinner is placed very well, though its just kinda missing on a lot of beats that i would've preferred mapped instead, though you can still keep this will keep then heh xd
32. 02:16:640 (1) - guitars here are all in 1/3, while drums from here 02:18:926 (1) - are 1/4 sooo thats quite the issue. although i can see that you're mapping drums mostly in the kiai, i would love for the spotlight to be given to guitars here with the unique 1/3 rhythm and the occasional 1/4 slur, but that might require a lot of listening to the song at 25%, so i leave it to you. though the first stream technically still maps to nothing. i cant think of any way to chhange this, i think its fine as is
33. 02:45:211 (3,1,2,3) - missing drums fixed :/
34. 02:49:783 (3,1,2,1) - ^ remapped
35. 02:58:069 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^ no changes here
36. 03:02:640 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^ ^ if i change anything here it'd be changed throughout the map and may hhappen eventually but again nothin here I think its cool now
37. 03:13:211 (1) - ^ fixed here
38. 03:46:924 (1) - if u were to follow my timing some of these have notes from here on are emphasised wrongly yes, remapped section
39. 04:10:130 (2) - intensity of this stream way lower than 04:20:987 (1) - , because there are reverse sliders, would prefer if the second part had broken streams not sure what you mean but i remapped a small part? i think fixed?
40. 04:39:273 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - missing drums
41. 04:43:844 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^ addressed earlier
42. 04:53:059 (1) - i'd say this is bad placement for a spinner because you're missing important vocal and drums no changes
43. 05:02:130 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - missing drums
44. 05:05:559 (1) - ^ vocal mapping here
45. 05:08:416 (5,6,7,8,9) - any reason for inconsistency with 01:37:783 (1,2) - ? no no particular reason, i just think this part is more intense and should be jumps because its closing in on the climax of the song
46. 05:12:987 (1) - i dont really hear a reason for reverse, why not just slider for vocal coverage? leadin heh
47. 05:21:273 (4,5,6) - dont hear a reason for these either, would prefer if 05:20:987 (3) - was just a slider/only hitcircle for vocal the instrumental in bg
48. 05:38:130 (1,2,3) - missing drum not mapping to it
49. 05:40:844 (3,4,5,6) - greatly decreased note density, quite disconcerting comparing with the intensity prior to this i was thinking about making it more intense, but honestly, i think itplays better how it is... the decreased density is for the incoming slower section, to adjust the player.. but perhaps im doing the music an injustice by mapping it like this so technically.. perhaps ill consider making this more intense.
50. 06:01:273 (1) - might as well start it here instead 06:00:987 - , i also think the ending of the spinner does flow well into the rhythm choice of 06:02:702 (1) - , would prefer if you just mapped the spinner section instead confused here, i did start it thhere??
51. 06:03:844 (7,1,2) - missing drum
52. 06:05:630 (1,1,2) - ^, seems like you're just too lazy at this point xd here its a certain vocal emphasis im sure you're aware
53. 06:08:986 (1,2,3) - ^
54. 06:21:844 (3,4) - i could be missing out a lot of potential triplets within this section, so you can check them to have more rhythmic variability instead of just jumps fixed all triples in this area.
    
    
    then theres the aesthetics thing which you can comply closer to Uta, i can point out some examples of stuff i might find ugly (completely subjective)
    
    
55. 00:28:640 (1) - these type sliders i dont really like because the end node is too short or too squashed up I like the look
56. 00:29:497 (3) - its clearer why i dont really like it here^ (multiple instances)
57. 00:31:069 (2,3) - dont really like how this flows (multiple instances)
58. 00:32:069 (1,2,3,4) - similarly^
59. 00:49:926 (1,2,3,4) - ^
60. 00:56:497 (3,4,1,2) - ^ I think a lot of these issues were addressed with some of my remaps due to your earlier stuff.. I'm not too sure anymore, I changed a lot haha.. so ill go ahead and say fixed on most if not all?
61. 01:09:783 (5) - would be prettier if it looked more like this, dont really like it when its too squashed up, especially the first node:
    no change here for now, personal preference and I think it looks better squashed for some odd reason actually lol
62. 01:17:783 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - dont like the flow no change for now. if im going to change anything here its going to be because i decide to change the structure of this repeated sound fundamentally, whhich is very likely, sso you may see something new here eventually.
63. 01:25:783 (1) - dont like the shape tbh No change, it captures the pitch well imo
64. 01:34:926 (1) - looks a little wonky compared to 01:33:211 (2) - they're the same, just rotated
65. 01:46:926 (1,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - the flow of sliders here i'd say is generally messier than what i'd normally see in your whole diff the vocals seem to be messier to me here
66. 01:53:069 (1) - this slider is faulty pls remake xd fixed em all
67. 01:59:497 (1) - dont really like this oh but i do heh
68. 02:04:640 (1,1) - just want to say the rhythm doesnt really permit the length, but the shapes are really pretty i try xd
69. 02:10:926 (1) - dont like this fixed. they look cool now!
70. 02:12:354 (1) - ^ fixed. they look cool now
71. 05:03:844 (2,1) - blanket fix? tried to fix while maintaining shape
72. 05:11:273 (1,2) - dont like the flow ive switched a lot of flow up bc of your mod, but here it just makes sense for it to be linear, music clearly supports it
73. 05:40:130 (5,1,2,3,4) - ^ no change for now, any change here will come if i decide to remap the intensity of this part
74. 05:46:130 (1) - this section is passable but there are some parts that can do with a little more reworking like hwat tho
75. also would just like to point out that i really liked your stream shapes, they were all really comfortable to track (i can't tap at this speed tho xd) ty! thats good to hear
    
    
    lastly i'd say another issue is with the polygonal-linear jumps or the non-sharp angle hitcircles, i would say they're super anti-flow and slightly hard to play, but thats more of a personal preference i guess
    
    
76. its stuff like 01:24:069 (1,2,3,4,1) - comfortable, 01:24:783 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - really uncomfortable type of transition that i dont really like its a good representation and isnt incredibly unplayable, though, here
77. 01:26:354 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - comfortable
78. 01:28:640 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) yeah, I see the uncomfortability here but I'm not going to change because I feel it represents the song well and players of this level can probably hit it decently well after a couple of tries, its one of the easier patterns in here heh- , 02:39:354 (4,5,6) - mildly uncomfortable I don't think this is too paramount to playability or emphasis that I'd need to changeit
79. 02:51:783 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - fixed , 05:06:130 (2,3,4,5) - fixedreally uncomfortable - i can be on-board with most things here, just feels uncomfortable for me to be playing it

thats it i guess, huuuuge mod gl

BounceBabe wrote:

🕓⌛ TWENTY MINUTES ⌛🕓

(long song name is long)

drum-hitfinish.wav is an unused hitsound. remove it. fixed i think

06:28:426 unsnapped timing line. fix this fixedd

Hymn

with 210 bpm i dont recommend such big 1/4 jumps 00:26:783 (4,5,6) - 00:37:497 (13,14) - 00:37:783 (1,2) - they will be very painful to play but do as you must. though i strongly recommend having the jump on first beats of a bar 00:37:711 (15,1) - as it will be much easier to discern when the jump has to be played

01:01:497 (3,1) - 01:01:783 (1,2) - avoid similar visual spacing for 1/4 and 1/2, it is highly confusing. reduce / increase spacing respectively. Fixed thank you

01:04:069 (1,2) fixed- 01:10:497 (7,1) addressed in other mod - 01:15:068 (7,1) - etc ^ and thats a whole beat difference. avoid this. makes it even harder due to the fact that the whole map consists of jumps. this kind of placement / spacing makes flow break very easily. stack them or fix the spacing up for smoother gameplay and better readability. ( 01:19:497 (3,4,1) - is okay but 4 to 1 could still do with a bit more spacing) same 01:59:354 (4,1) - 01:59:497 (1,2) - 02:02:354 (1,2) - (could be stacked again) / 02:03:211 (1,2) - and 02:04:354 (3,4,1) - Here's a different case though, I want the notes to flow in a way that they stop when the guitar stops and pick up when the guitar picks up, so its very intentional here, is this too big an issue, though?

^ 01:21:211 (1,2) - definitely stack those fixed in a different way from emillia's mod

01:56:926 (2,3,4,1) - http://puu.sh/t0UtM/db6d208ad1.jpg drums are still very much present at this point that should be mapped imo no change for now, i think the vocals are more important here

02:12:354 (1) - a spinner at this point instead of where the spinner is now would represent the music better. instead, 02:14:354 - the spinner part has many more guitar sounds to map than the slider so the spinner should be mapped instead. did remap this section a little but no change to the spinner, ill play around with this and see if i can make anything worth actually mapping out of these sounds, i dont want to use 1/3 for this guitar section, though.

03:47:300 (4,5,6) - when looking at the rest of that sections, which is consistently spaced mapped, the jumps here dont make much sense. even more since this section is calm and doesnt provide any sound differences to support jumps or inconsistent spacing apart from the first bar of each measure. fixed

03:54:238 (6) - nc fixed

04:32:273 (1) - remove nc place here instead 04:32:416 (1) - good catch

04:36:987 - would reflect the intense scream.. a lot http://puu.sh/t0UVQ/b67cae90be.jpg fixed

tried to go through all of it but thats as far as i got. top players will enjoy this diff for sure

1. so maybe I'm just deaf, but on a lot of triples I don't hear anything on the blue tick, while you skip some blue ticks that do have a prominent note. 00:06:069 (3,4,5) - , 00:11:354 (6,7,1) - ,00:12:497 (7,8,1) - ,00:12:997 (3) - (just that note, the last 3 are fine), even some short streams like 00:24:783 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - (there actually is a sound on 00:24:711 that isn't mapped) I all don't hear anything on. Some triples there's a faint guitar note, but all of the ones I mentioned and more don't have anything like that, and I can't hear drums either. 00:17:569 is another example of a skipped blue tick that does have a drum sound. I'd suggest looking into this in the entire map, both happen very frequently.
2. Some of your jump patterns don't feel good to me, they're often very linear but slightly rotating and sometimes changing DS which imo is rather annoying to play if it comes up too often. I think it's fine in cases like 00:40:497 (4,5,6,7,8) - where it's just for a short while and serves for emphasis (which is also how kite's uta uses this), but if it goes on for too long it becomes a problem imo. Examples include but are not limited to 01:35:497 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -, 02:22:354 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) -, 04:30:130 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - (these 3 are by far the worst though).
   
   
3. 00:00:783 (3,4,5) - pls align the circles with the beginning of the slider, would look way better imo. Or just stack like you did with most of the other triples in the beginning.
4. 00:12:497 (7,8,1) - ^
5. 01:02:926 (1) -, 01:03:354 (3) - Make these 1/2 sliders maybe? Seems like a random rhythm change otherwise (I get you're following the vocals, but it would still fit and not skip over the drums). Obv change the pattern as well if you do this.
6. 01:17:783 (1,2,3) - The spacing between all of these is the same, timing is different though. From what I hear 01:18:069 (2) should end on the red tick anyway, though I'd suggest you also place them farther apart as the guitar here is pretty intense.
7. 05:38:130 (1,2,3) - ^ about the spacing/timing
8. 01:23:354 (9,10,1) - sounds like 1/3 to me
9. 01:57:211 (3,4,5) - Why skip over the 1/4 drums?
10. 02:37:354 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - The spacing here changes drastically even though the music is basically the same, some variety is fine but this is way too much of a difference since there's nothing to suggest it.
11. 06:11:272 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - and the entire jump section at the end: Imo you should try to emphasize the guitar on the start of the new measures, be it just with higher DS or maybe a slider. Would also help break up the monotony of this section.
12. 06:30:130 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - I see no reason for the spacing increase here, in the previous stream where you did this the vocals became more intense, but here the music doesn't really change.

LawL4Ever wrote:

Hey, M4M from your queue.

1. so maybe I'm just deaf, but on a lot of triples I don't hear anything on the blue tick, while you skip some blue ticks that do have a prominent note. 00:06:069 (3,4,5) i think a triple here is warranted - , 00:11:354 (6,7,1) fixed - ,00:12:497 (7,8,1) faint guitar fade warrants this- ,00:12:997 (3) - (just that note, the last 3 are fine), fixed! even some short streams like 00:24:783 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - (there actually is a sound on 00:24:711 that isn't mapped fixed) I all don't hear anything on. Some triples there's a faint guitar note, but all of the ones I mentioned and more don't have anything like that, and I can't hear drums either. 00:17:569 is another example of a skipped blue tick that does have a drum sound. I'd suggest looking into this in the entire map, both happen very frequently. actually, i know exactly where these parts are.. for most of them.. just in the first minute or so because i started mapping this and didnt understand the rhythm but then got the hang of it, so i went through and fixed most.
2. Some of your jump patterns don't feel good to me, they're often very linear but slightly rotating and sometimes changing DS which imo is rather annoying to play if it comes up too often. I think it's fine in cases like 00:40:497 (4,5,6,7,8) - where it's just for a short while and serves for emphasis (which is also how kite's uta uses this), but if it goes on for too long it becomes a problem imo. Examples include but are not limited to 01:35:497 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -, 02:22:354 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) -, 04:30:130 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - (these 3 are by far the worst though). no changes its all intentional to mirror the song. 4:30 the song is very ugly, so the patterns are somewhat ugly and uncomfortable, though everything here is playable if the player is not lazy and doesnt lose their grip; in other words, they're snapping patterns.
   
   
3. 00:00:783 (3,4,5) - pls align the circles with the beginning of the slider, would look way better imo. Or just stack like you did with most of the other triples in the beginning.
4. 00:12:497 (7,8,1) - ^ buT my visuals
5. 01:02:926 (1) -, 01:03:354 (3) - Make these 1/2 sliders maybe? Seems like a random rhythm change otherwise (I get you're following the vocals, but it would still fit and not skip over the drums). Obv change the pattern as well if you do this. I think it fits over the drums :/
6. 01:17:783 (1,2,3) - The spacing between all of these is the same, timing is different though. From what I hear 01:18:069 (2) should end on the red tick anyway, though I'd suggest you also place them farther apart as the guitar here is pretty intense. fixed. they end on red ticks
7. 05:38:130 (1,2,3) - ^ about the spacing/timing
8. 01:23:354 (9,10,1) - sounds like 1/3 to me there are separate rhythms here, 1/3 is not the one im following
9. 01:57:211 (3,4,5) - Why skip over the 1/4 drums? because the vocals slow and they're very important here
10. 02:37:354 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - The spacing here changes drastically even though the music is basically the same, some variety is fine but this is way too much of a difference since there's nothing to suggest it. i dont think its so bad here
11. 06:11:272 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - and the entire jump section at the end: Imo you should try to emphasize the guitar on the start of the new measures, be it just with higher DS or maybe a slider. Would also help break up the monotony of this section.DS would make it too hard, and sliders would ignore the rest of the rhythm. a 1/4 slider is out of the question and I'd want a 1/2 slider's tail/head to be clickable, see my predicament here?
12. 06:30:130 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - I see no reason for the spacing increase here, in the previous stream where you did this the vocals became more intense, but here the music doesn't really change. this is the end, the peak, i see reason

Good luck, I think it still needs some work (esp on rhythm choice with the triples and stuff), but nevertheless it was enjoyable to play

EDIT: timestamp formatting, bleh.