1. Vivere (4.38 stars, 1045 notes)

Cerberus Roze wrote:

[Vivere]

00:05:451 - it would be nice if you mapped the melody here more instead so we get to play something different The notes have their emphasis on the melody notes in the first place owo (secondary is drums), since this is the first mod I'll see if people constantly don't feel like they are actually playing to melody

04:15:051 - plz map and fill in the break here (piano would be nice to play imo), it has new sounds and will break up all the repetitiveness From personal point of view, I really wanted to add a break somewhere in the map, this place was like the best place for it (quiet, right before the final chorus)

04:31:851 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6) - this part here is mapped like 90% of the map, so maybe a little bigger jumps with no sliders just to put emphasis that this is different , not quite sure if i explained well so i hope you understand Maybe hyper consistency due to the fact that sound is basically identical to 01:19:851 - isn't the best eh

05:12:651 same as 00:05:451 it would be nice to hear something different from the same beat that's repeated throughout the entire song I feel like that's a stretch tho, I already shoved in a lot of extra beat with slider ends, I would change placement gladly, but I'm reserved about changing the rhythm

i also think 04:34:251 - would be a better preview point, so you hear the chorus and its memorable so when you hear it you remember the song better preview point moved to 01:21:651 -

i dont mind ar9.3 maybe put od to 8.3 if you're going for that but i feel others might want just ar9 Let's try :thinking: used 8.2 instead

good work and good luck on the map!

YukiZura- wrote:

Hi
here some mods i can give

00:02:751 (6,1) - distance more from this one 00:02:451 - (cuz i found out it is a little bit confiusing if you put that way ) -just sunggestion I think there is plenty of time to read that =w=

00:27:051 (1,2) - make the flow better .. 00:27:201 (2) - just ctrl+j here and 00:27:051 - move to the top.. see the pic ^^ moved 1 a bit to the right, the one you suggested doesn't really fit the surrounding patterns design wise.

example

00:28:851 - make the slider same as this one 00:28:551 - (it will look more tidy and nice ) I chose a straight slider to make it connect smoothly from previous slider and to the next pattern.

like this

01:06:351 - make the slider like this one 01:06:051 - i made it straight so that i can do this: 01:06:351 (3,6) -

01:41:301 - dont make it a distance.. just stack it o.o I see no reason to stack it when there is like.. you know, very strong double snare >.>

example

03:30:951 - not good flow .. try do it like this rearranged quite a bit

example

03:56:151 - start new combo here . the bridge section does start at 03:55:851 - , so it wouldn't make sense to break the NC consistency all the sudden at this point.

04:11:151 - do like this owo

example

05:02:601 - why dont make this a curve :thinking: i dont know why i didnt

like this

hope some of my suggestion and mod will be helpful ^^
goodluck \o/ owo7

Trynna wrote:

oh man what the hell am i doing trying to mod again
hello~~

00:05:151 (7,8) - hm the spacing between 00:04:851 (6,7,8) - is actually almost the same and that's ok, but it would be better if you try to indicate that something different is gonna happen, i don't know if nc would be a great ideia tho :thinking: I do understand your concerns but since I went full ham on consistency in this mapset, so I'll keep it as it is now (don't really think its that hard to read either)
01:53:451 (1) - I can barely see the curvature, the other times you used this slider style you made it easy 2 read yeah now on the second look i don't like this as well
01:56:451 (3,4,5) - I think that's the only pattern angled like that (and the another one copy pasted)... idk it feels weird to use in that part rearranged :>
05:05:451 (1) - c o p y p a s t a
05:08:451 (3,4,5) - you cheater PLEASE

things i'm not that sure about
01:21:051 (3) - idk i just feel like that's an incomplete pattern when i look at 01:19:851 (1,1) - nc'd; although I know the strong sound is different and stuff It's because unlike 01:19:851 - , 01:20:451 - , 01:21:051 - has strong sound on the red tick as well, so it wouldn't make sense to use the same slider end to cover the red ticks :v
04:33:051 (3) - same saem

oh you're an experienced mapper it's hard to find errors i'm sorry Every bit counts owo
loved the overlaps style \>w</

Lasse wrote:

oh I wanted to map that at some point, but the rhythm made me reconsider lol
after playing through it, I think ar around 8.7 to 9 would fit this much better current just seems too fast with how you designed the map and the overall "slow" feeling the song gives :c

since i'm getting the similar feedback a lot, ill reduce it down to ar 9.

Ranking Criteria wrote:

Every .wav file must be at least 100ms long to prevent issues with soundcards.

Doyak wrote:

맵을 봤는데 전체적으로 이해가 잘 안 가는 게 있어서 질문 드립니다. 노래 자체가 200bpm이 아닌 100bpm인 만큼 1/4 중에는 공백인 자리가 꽤 많습니다. 그런데 이 맵에서는 슬라이더 끝은 그렇다 쳐도, 아무 특정할 비트가 없는 자리에 1/4 filler 서클이 많다는 생각이 듭니다. 00:30:801 (6) - 00:33:501 (5) - 00:57:201 (6) - 이러한 무음 비트에 노트를 넣는 것이 노래를 어떤 면에서 더 잘 표현해주는지 잘 모르겠고, 01:45:501 (7) - 01:46:101 (10) - 등과 같이 디스턴스를 작게 쓰려는 노력은 보이지만 여기에 노트가 없거나 슬라이더로 보컬 홀딩을 표현해주는 것보다 지금이 낫다고 할 수 있는지 의문이네요.

이 노래를 뜯어다 보면 전체적으로 매우 업비트한 성향이 있다고 보는데, 100 브픔 식으로 1/2 갭들이 위화감이 없게 매핑을 하면 이 노래의 특징인 강한 드럼 사운드를 놓치는 것 같아서 200브픔 스타일로 매핑하는 대신 1/2 갭들이 매우 어색하고 뜬금없이 느껴지게 될테니 (인센에서 1/1 갭이 계속 나온다고 하면 이상하죠) 그걸 줄이기 위해서 이렇게 매핑했습니다.

그 외에 몇 가지 짚어보자면

00:04:851 (6,7,8) - 모양은 안정적인 정삼각형인 데에 비해서 저 비트 스냅을 읽을 방법은 높은 AR 뿐인데, 비트에 변화가 있다면 배치나 표현상으로도 변화가 있는 것이 적절하지 않나 생각합니다. 이외에도 잦은 1/2과 1/4 변동에 비해서 노트들이 전부 한 패턴 내로 섞여들어가 있는 경우가 많은데 리딩 상으로도 불편할 뿐더러(위에서 AR 낮추는 이야기가 나온 것도 맵의 readability가 AR에 의존하는 게 커서 높게 쓰셨기 때문일 거고요) 텐션이 1/4 갭들에만 극도로 집중되는 현상을 야기하지 않나 싶네요. 02:57:651 (7,8,1) - 와 같이요. 판사님 전 이런게 좋습니다 ;;

03:55:551 (9,10,1,2,3,4) - 특히 이런 부분에서 두드러지네요. 더욱 큰 디스턴스들이 1/4이고, 조금 더 작은 디스턴스가 1/2로 중간에 끼어들어 상당한 혼란을 야기하지 않을까 생각합니다.

04:33:051 (3) - 앞에서 04:31:851 (1,2) - 로 끊었으면 04:32:451 (1,2) - 까지 하고서도 뉴콤을 끊어주는 게 맞지 않을까요. 그 둘끼리만이 반복되는 패턴이기도 하고요. 01:21:051 (3) - 도요. ㅇㅇ

normal-hitnormal 사운드를 이용해서 힛사를 표현하신 것들이 있는데 그렇게 하면 소프트 히트노말이 들리지 않아서 매우 이질적으로 느껴지네요. 강력한 힛사가 아니라서 오히려 뮤트시킨 것 같은 느낌을 받았습니다. normal-hitclap 등으로 바꾸어서 addition으로 대신 쓰거나, soft-hitnormal도 커스텀으로 덜 이질적인 걸 추가하면 낫지 않을까 싶네요. 무엇보다 이 힛사는 언랭커블입니다.

Ranking Criteria wrote:

Every .wav file must be at least 100ms long to prevent issues with soundcards.

soft-hitclap은 소리가 너무 작아서 노래에 완전히 묻히는 것 같네요. 볼륨을 좀 키워보시는 걸 고려해보시고

00:03:051 - 00:48:651 - 00:49:101 - 01:39:051 - 03:19:851 - 03:25:551 - 04:51:051 - 휘슬 빠짐? 02:42:351 - 도 노말 샘플셋이 아니라 소프트 휘슬 들어갈 자리인 것 같고 03:09:951 (1) - 힛사 증발 03:45:651 (8) - 몸통과 꼬리에 클랩 잘못 들어간 듯 03:53:151 (8) - 몸통에 잘못된 노말 샘플셋

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