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Hikaen
Polu wraio map 💯
Net0
People questioning the 1-2 pattern made my day. So you started the meta, ranked your maps with 1-2 jump pattern and only now it's bad and it should be stopped? LMAO

If only something were to be mentioned in the old top diff is that this 01:26:170 (1) - / 01:26:930 (1) - /01:27:689 (1) - required the same emphasis in placement, similar to what was done here 01:28:449 (1) - and here 01:29:778 (2) - to make it kiai wise consistent. The current sliders 01:25:413 (1,2) -/01:26:932 (1) - and smaller jumps 01:26:172 (1,2,3,4) - are just excuse to lower the pp given by the map. It's really disgusting seeing a person who literally exploited this 1-2 patterning heavily abusing spacing for the sake of pp saying that the old "Kalokairina Pyrotechnimata" diff "didn't represent the song" when all the meta ranked in the past years does the exact same thing on consecutive 1/2 snare+kicks every time and some mappers even fully ignore other factors and still get ranked.

You guys just picked someone who's exploiting that even further and are not allowing him to rank his map.
Feb

Net0 wrote:

People questioning the 1-2 pattern made my day. So you started the meta, ranked your maps with 1-2 jump pattern and only now it's bad and it should be stopped? LMAO

If only something were to be mentioned in the old top diff is that this 01:26:170 (1) - / 01:26:930 (1) - /01:27:689 (1) - required the same emphasis in placement, similar to what was done here 01:28:449 (1) - and here 01:29:778 (2) - to make it kiai wise consistent. The current sliders 01:25:413 (1,2) -/01:26:932 (1) - and smaller jumps 01:26:172 (1,2,3,4) - are just excuse to lower the pp given by the map. It's really disgusting seeing a person who literally exploited this 1-2 patterning heavily abusing spacing for the sake of pp saying that the old "Kalokairina Pyrotechnimata" diff "didn't represent the song" when all the meta ranked in the past years does the exact same thing on consecutive 1/2 snare+kicks every time and some mappers even fully ignore other factors and still get ranked.

You guys just picked someone who's exploiting that even further and are not allowing him to rank his map.
I'm sorry, what? Did you even read the mods from at least me or Xexxar? (didn't read maridius mod because its ass long lol)

Neither of us were talking about how bad 1-2 jumps are in general and neither of us were introducing them into the mapping scene since they already existed before we even started mapping. They just do not fit with THIS song in most of the map.

Nobody cares about other songs here, it's about this song not others.
What happened in the past has nothing to do with this map, when the ranking criteria was different and community involvement didn't even exist. Usually I don't even mod qualified sets, but the map got linked to me and I didn't agree with the maps concept, so I do have the right to veto it.
VINXIS
btw incest bg
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Naotoshi
well it's much more acceptable now. anyway i said i'd mod so here we go
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00:11:552 (3) - this feels like it would be better as a 1/2 slider + circle rhythm to switch off the strings onto the drums I'll keep this as it is for two reasons. First, the string sound ends here 00:11:932 - so it would be weird to end the slider on that white tick while the string still continues to play until 00:11:932 - here. And second is that I'd rather keep the rhythm simple at this section and make it more intense 00:12:501 - here and onwards. 00:10:793 (1) - You could say the same about this slider.

00:21:046 (2,3,1) - this felt a bit weird cuz you're generally putting jumps on the strings. wouldnt a rhythm like http://puu.sh/x442q/b89cc99552.jpg fit a bit better? Similar to this 00:19:906 - when I added the sliders it was on the red ticks, however it didn't sound or feel right to me how the sliderends where on those strong sounding white ticks, so in the end I decided to go do that instead. As for the note on the blue tick, in a previous mod I said that I don't hear anything on that beat, and that it is overmapped, and for such a controversial map where people are nitpicking everything, it could even be a reason for disqualification again.

00:30:160 (1,2) - this is really minor but not having these stacked on the previous 2 notes looked weird af to me lol

00:37:375 (3,4) - I can't make sense of this Lol

01:17:818 (1,2,3) - this is following a different instrument from 01:17:248 (3,4,5) - but it's in the exact same cursor movement, which is a clockwise circle. making it a different cursor movement would be better to differentiate it from the previous pattern, since it's a different instrument Personally, it doesn't feel like I've been following an instrument and then a completely different one appears which forces me to change the movement. But instead, think of it as an added instrument to the current previous section, so movement stays the same, but higher spacing.

01:26:172 - i know you already nerfed the pp part but the rhythm here seems a bit weird. 01:25:413 (1,2) - are following the violin chord things, 01:26:172 (1,2,3,4) - break out of that presumably because of vocals, but then 01:26:932 (1) - follows another strong piano chord? thing and then it just devolves into 1-2 spam following the drums and ignoring everything else. there are a bunch of more intricate and interesting things like piano chords at 01:27:501 - 01:28:071 - 01:28:451 (1) - etc or just actual vocal emphasis. From here 01:27:312 - till 01:29:590 - here, the only place where I would put a slider is 01:27:501 - this beat. But I don't want the sliderend to be on that strong sounding white beat so I decided to avoid that.

if you want to ignore all that for 1-2 jumps then i'd suggest at least differentiating 01:27:312 (2,3,1) - and 01:27:881 (2,3,4) - since the vocals are very clearly different. I want to signal the differences by changing jumps at every measure instead of changing their movement inside the measure. So basically 01:28:451 - this and 01:29:780 - this.

01:29:400 (2,3,4) - same here. different direction motion would be cool since atm it's just another back adn forth motion even though the vocals changed.

side note: i feel like just putting a spinner over the end is kinda lame cuz it's still perfectly mappable and stuff and there's a more obvious fadeout to use for an ending spinner

[insane]
00:06:046 - feels like you could at least put a circle here lol Personally I don't think it's a clear enough sound to support a circle, only a slider would fit there. But I'd rather keep the rhythm simpler than the last difficulty and just focus on the piano notes only instead.

01:05:476 (2,1) - this is kinda easy to misread as a 1/2 (since the precursor is just 1-2 back and forths with similar spacing) maybe stack 1 instead? Moved it up a bit more.

good luck!
-Makishima S-
People questioning the 1-2 pattern made my day. So you started the meta, ranked your maps with 1-2 jump pattern and only now it's bad and it should be stopped? LMAO
This jumps doesn't fit this song since drums are not an lead instrument which should be empathized first.
If every mapper choice to empathize drums, GREAT MAJORITY of songs can be mapped from 0:00 to X:XX 100% 1-2 jumps because "they fit drums".
Xinnoh
seems good, bubbled because I have the right to bubble it
Smokeman

MaridiuS wrote:

[smokeman]
Hm this map aesthetics don't look appealing to me, probably subjective, as I disagree on some choices, I have no idea how to improve this style. lol ok. You could mention those "choices" you dont agree with rather than just leave a pointless comment, no? But it's up to you to decide if its worth adressing (if you were going to suggest fixing blankets or some shit of that caliber you better gtfo tbh lul)
Firework aesthetics

Naotoshi wrote:

[smokeman]
this is all subjective aesthetic stuff. but a lot of your sliders totally don't look cohesive in the patterns. stuff like
00:10:793 (1,3) - could totally just be the same slider, 00:13:071 (2,4) - etc. Yeah, i didnt really think about doing them the same. In the example you provided I'd say they are quite different cause 00:10:793 - is still before the intense part 00:12:501 - . 00:10:793 (1) - This is less sharp of a curve than 00:11:552 (3) - cause of the difference in pitch. Although this is true to some extend for 00:13:071 (2,4) - , it is less noticeable so i went for the reverse so i can "unpack" the pattern of 00:10:793 (1,2,3,4) - into what I've done.

also i feel personally that the map would look a ton better if you made the follow points lead into the slider path. for example: http://puu.sh/x44UG/97a4f78082.jpg at 00:13:071 (2,3,4) - i deliberatly hide follow points so i can do this shit :> https://puu.sh/x5BAX/e98b1706b6.png . Even if i fixed it for 00:13:641 (3,4) - i would break it for 00:13:831 (4,5,6) - ._.

00:19:337 (3) - extra clap on tail? it sounds kinda weird cuz it isnt clickable ye, clap shoudl be on the head and whistle on the tail :thinking:

00:29:210 (2) - i already stated my thoughts on these but basically i think having this big spacing is kinda weird for noobs cuz they wont move their cursor until the circle pops up and then itll be a sudden large jump. dunno I though you were talking about shit like 00:53:514 (3,1) - . I think the example you posted it passable because of the follow-points. 00:27:691 (1) - This shouldnt be NC since its still part of 00:27:122 (3) - but i went with breaking that so i have the follow-points between 00:27:691 (1,2,3) - https://puu.sh/x5BMd/92fcaddeec.png (godbless the bg is this dark so its noticable, the one he used before this was even better suited cause low lvl players usually play with <100% dim). Fixed the others doe

01:12:312 (6,7) - switching layers like this seems a bit weird too. why not just hold out on the vocal? I see what you getting at. I guess i saw the piano as a chance to put some variety cause else i would have the same rythm ~4 times in a row .-.

01:26:552 (4,1,2) - wouldnt ctrl g on this rhythm make more sense? yes it does make sense, but having the claps on the tails for 2 1/2 sliders is super wierd somehow D: (which is prolly why i didnt do it in the first place).

i fixed some ugly stuff here and there

VINXIS wrote:

btw incest bg YES PLEASE FIX !!!"!1"!21!1"!!1!

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Tbh riven's map improoved a hell lot since the last time i checked lol.
- _ . -
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_3638005
So if there is nothing else to be said and we have come to a mutual agreement, then we can proceed with the ranking process.

If not, please do say it now so I can address it properly, and not having to do it when it's qualified.
HueFlakes

VINXIS wrote:

btw incest bg
I see nothing wrong here
Delis
when I re-dl'd it the sr happened to decrease by around 0.3 wtf lol

why did you change the bg though
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_3638005
it's cuter
audinor
fukc
I Must Decrease
I still think the map is overdone but atleast the rhythm has improved a bit?

Disappointed that this is still the type of content that BN members are willing to push towards rank but /shrug what do you expect.
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_3638005
It's not very different from what you are mapping, so I'm also disappointed in what you have to say about it like you are some kind of superior. Don't judge BNs' decisions on what they want to push forward, because the same could be said about your own maps. Is that really the type of content they are willing to push towards rank?

And what kind of vague comment on the map is that? Have we come to a mutual agreement or not? It's like you're saying that you are kinda fine with it, but at the same time, at any point you could veto because you say it's overdone.
Kynan
lmfao xexxar please... Anyone but you has the right to say that.
Monstrata
If players are so against "these types of maps" as you say, then why are there over 250k plays on CBCC? Checkmate my friend, better luck next round!
Okoratu
ahh please leave the shitposting to reddit

[spark of light]
  1. decimal od does mostly nothing, use 9?
  2. 00:06:046 (3) - i think sliderslide should be hitsounded in some way, maybe the sliderslide sample from https://osu.ppy.sh/b/147375 fits as a sliderwhistle here?
  3. 00:12:501 - that you drop whistles completely here onwards kinda ruins the mood in my opinion, the song features piano throughout so i think you should hitsound those more? you even feature them as your prominent layer of mapping
  4. 01:06:615 (1) - ever tried ending this in 01:06:900 - ? seems more accurate with the guitar
  5. 01:07:944 (5) - 01:10:982 (5,6) - should either be both sliders or both circles according to what you wanted to do
  6. 01:10:223 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - also this didnt really feel energetic at all given that even 01:07:185 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - as a whole is bigger
  7. 01:25:413 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - by making most of this just circles and only a few sliders you lose all the focus you've put on vocals being the core of this song before in any part, here's a list of opportunities you use to follow drums
    1. 01:27:881 (2,3,4) - 3 very distinct vocals
    2. 01:26:172 (1,2,3,4) - after this being all on vocals, doing 01:26:932 (1) - and ending it on avocal just seems odd
    3. 01:29:400 (2,3) - these two stand out exactly in no way compared to the rest 01:29:780 (4) - does that well by being a completely different type of object, but with this many circles going on it all seems the same.
    4. 01:30:160 (1,2,3,4,5) - this star pattern would stand out way more if the things preceeding it were different from it
    Most of these opportunities seem pretty cool to work with the song and with the key idea you've been following until now while also being the thing people mostly take issue in - i think a change to distinctly focusing features of the song that are not drums will be beneficial because the drums in this section are constant and present, the vocals are varied and otherwise the key feature of your map.
  8. 01:12:312 (3,4,5) - this somehow doesnt align with how you handle movement, mostly because the arrangement of 3 and 4 implies it's a direction that the player is expected to follow but out of line with what they expect to follow to, most other instances like 01:09:274 (3,4,5) - are clearly doing a back forth or other defined shapes while this is doing a "idunnoitlooksnice"
  9. 01:22:944 (4) - i think end should be circle for vocals
  10. 01:31:109 (1,2) - dunno how feasible but circles??
[smokeman]
  1. ar 6 fits your sv and density better, e.g. it makes 00:02:818 (5,1) - rhythm gaps actually readable in a straightforward manner - if you do this adjust other setting accordingly
  2. 00:09:463 (1,2,3) - as youre making a diff for mostly beginners doing placements like these should be avoided, the player at this level struggles with interpreting order for some reason so having an arragement of two circles that could be read either way and be "ok this makes sense" is prone to confuse people. This is mainly because you keep sliderend to circle distances in some cases visually constant so that order of objects isnt too clear sometimes
  3. 00:18:577 (1,2,3) - you start this off by following drums, so by 00:21:046 (4) - people expect you to follow drums
  4. 00:32:818 (3,4) - for stuff like these variations that dont exactly involve two 1/2 sliders for 1/1 sounds in succession could be cool, stuff like that includes rhythms like http://i.imgur.com/kBBFraG.png
  5. 00:39:274 (7) - if you decide against the above, at leat point this somewhere where upwards so that a dropoff to the next circle is created, i think with the movement you got going on that works better
  6. 00:47:438 (5,6) - seems forced, how about 1/1 slider
  7. 00:48:957 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - that this place is musically different in a lot of ways is not visible in any ways, mostly rhythm
  8. 01:10:793 (2,4) - looks oddly misplaced since you dont use stacking at all in this diff, so you're essentially introducing a new concept right before the end - you stack two things in the intro and that's it from there onwards (i think you should use stacks more because then you can have the player not move on every note)
  9. 01:30:160 (1,2,3,4) - even with your general "i dont like organized patternz lul" mindset this is just kind of a mess
Axon

Xexxar wrote:

Disappointed that this is still the type of content that BN members are willing to push towards rank but /shrug what do you expect.
by that logic you should have no ranked maps.
Smokeman

Okorin wrote:

ahh please leave the shitposting to reddit THIS IS A MEME FREE ZONE NOW >:(


[smokeman]
  1. ar 6 fits your sv and density better, e.g. it makes 00:02:818 (5,1) - rhythm gaps actually readable in a straightforward manner - if you do this adjust other setting accordingly yea
  2. 00:09:463 (1,2,3) - as youre making a diff for mostly beginners doing placements like these should be avoided, the player at this level struggles with interpreting order for some reason so having an arragement of two circles that could be read either way and be "ok this makes sense" is prone to confuse people. This is mainly because you keep sliderend to circle distances in some cases visually constant so that order of objects isnt too clear sometimes I knew it was wierd back when i mapped it. Good thing someone finally points it out
  3. 00:18:577 (1,2,3) - you start this off by following drums, so by 00:21:046 (4) - people expect you to follow drums Infact i only follow drums this intensly on these first 3 sliders. I proceed to follow the longer piano notes to make it less dense (so the last section of the song can stand out with tons of 1/2 sliders)
  4. 00:32:818 (3,4) - for stuff like these variations that dont exactly involve two 1/2 sliders for 1/1 sounds in succession could be cool, stuff like that includes rhythms like http://i.imgur.com/kBBFraG.png I do prefere it the way i have for 2 reasons. Even though the song features strong drums i wanted to follow the piano/vocal rythm more. This is the section that feaute my arguable cool firework aesthetic and i think 2 sliders like that (and later on aswell) make a beautiful firework pattern C:
  5. 00:39:274 (7) - if you decide against the above, at leat point this somewhere where upwards so that a dropoff to the next circle is created, i think with the movement you got going on that works better This is the same as 00:44:970 (6,7) - but it would make sense to make it point upwards moar. (can't point it up too much else it will resemble the patterns of the previous yellow combo too much and i wouldnt like that :c
  6. 00:47:438 (5,6) - seems forced, how about 1/1 slider I do see your concern but having too many 1/1 would break the uniqueness of 00:48:957 (1,2,3,4) - a bit. On the other hand some variety would be cool to have. Mb i'll ctrl+g the rythm
  7. 00:48:957 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - that this place is musically different in a lot of ways is not visible in any ways, mostly rhythm 00:48:957 (1,2) - the sharp 180° turn and the soft transition of 00:49:527 (2,3,4) - make up for it through object placement imo. I could do some different slidershapes but i wanted to try this different thing : S
  8. 01:10:793 (2,4) - looks oddly misplaced since you dont use stacking at all in this diff, so you're essentially introducing a new concept right before the end - you stack two things in the intro and that's it from there onwards (i think you should use stacks more because then you can have the player not move on every note) Even after spending >30 min trying to make it work w/o the stack i couldnt find a way to map it which would require a 80% remap. If this is a huge problem then i will keep trying tomorrow/next time i sit down for this
  9. 01:30:160 (1,2,3,4) - even with your general "i dont like organized patternz lul" mindset this is just kind of a mess i dont like organized patternz lul but i made this a bit better cause trash
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allein
rippu?
Nikakis
i like trains
Will Stetson

Nikakis wrote:

i like trains
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_3638005
Okoratu
ahh please leave the shitposting to reddit

[spark of light]
  1. decimal od does mostly nothing, use 9? hmm okay
  2. 00:06:046 (3) - i think sliderslide should be hitsounded in some way, maybe the sliderslide sample from https://osu.ppy.sh/b/147375 fits as a sliderwhistle here? done
  3. 00:12:501 - that you drop whistles completely here onwards kinda ruins the mood in my opinion, the song features piano throughout so i think you should hitsound those more? you even feature them as your prominent layer of mapping sure
  4. 01:06:615 (1) - ever tried ending this in 01:06:900 - ? seems more accurate with the guitar the reason why this extended is because it's a combination of the guitar string and her breath kinda, also it makes the kiai feel more explosive and the reason why i decided to keep it.
  5. 01:07:944 (5) - 01:10:982 (5,6) - should either be both sliders or both circles according to what you wanted to do remapped the kiais completely, also those beats are all sliders now
  6. 01:10:223 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - also this didnt really feel energetic at all given that even 01:07:185 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - as a whole is bigger it's more spaced now but kinda remapped
  7. 01:25:413 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - by making most of this just circles and only a few sliders you lose all the focus you've put on vocals being the core of this song before in any part, here's a list of opportunities you use to follow drums tried to follow more vocals with the addition of sliders and some more sliders instead of random circles
    1. 01:27:881 (2,3,4) - 3 very distinct vocals
    2. 01:26:172 (1,2,3,4) - after this being all on vocals, doing 01:26:932 (1) - and ending it on avocal just seems odd
    3. 01:29:400 (2,3) - these two stand out exactly in no way compared to the rest 01:29:780 (4) - does that well by being a completely different type of object, but with this many circles going on it all seems the same.
    4. 01:30:160 (1,2,3,4,5) - this star pattern would stand out way more if the things preceeding it were different from it
    Most of these opportunities seem pretty cool to work with the song and with the key idea you've been following until now while also being the thing people mostly take issue in - i think a change to distinctly focusing features of the song that are not drums will be beneficial because the drums in this section are constant and present, the vocals are varied and otherwise the key feature of your map.
  8. 01:12:312 (3,4,5) - this somehow doesnt align with how you handle movement, mostly because the arrangement of 3 and 4 implies it's a direction that the player is expected to follow but out of line with what they expect to follow to, most other instances like 01:09:274 (3,4,5) - are clearly doing a back forth or other defined shapes while this is doing a "idunnoitlooksnice" changed it
  9. 01:22:944 (4) - i think end should be circle for vocals remapped but should still be applied
  10. 01:31:109 (1,2) - dunno how feasible but circles?? okay then
Aistre
o!mG!
Okoratu
please hitsound the rhythms that you map in the normal as you mapped them just copying over hitsounding from the other diff isnt working
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_3638005
i see, some beats didn't even have hitsounds on them lol, should be better now

also changed the placement of the objects on top diff because i wasn't really happy with them, from 01:26:932 - here to 01:29:590 - here. rhythm remains unchanged

updated
[Sony]
Hi, please buff end jumps again, thanks
7ambda
damn, this took a huge nerf
sahuang
gogog
Cheri
Ok ~ M4M I guess since ya said so in-game...

I personally don't see much wrong with it but i'll bring up some things


  • Spark of Light
  1. 00:06:046 (3) - A soft-whistle right here would quite fitting at the start of this note and wouldn't be too anoying or anything
  2. 00:10:033 (3) - On the slider end of this a - clap right here seems to leave more of an impact instead of a whistle imo
  3. 00:24:274 (6,7,8,1) - I feel the gap between 00:24:274 (6,7,8) - and 00:24:653 (1) - is a bit too big imo
    while I do understand this is suppose to be challenging - but it could help reducing the gap just a tad bit to make not as challenging


  • Nasya's Insane
  1. I wish you map the intro like all the difficulties do :c
  2. 01:05:096 (6,7,8) - Maybe possibly adjust the spacing around here? like slightly reducing the spacing at (6) and give a little bit more (8) since 8 leaves quite a strong impact and I felt it should be emphasis a bit more around here
  3. 01:08:515 - Don't see the harm of adding a whistle right here - seems to more fitting for the music than without
  4. 01:31:109 (1) - possible curve this slightly down towards the left a bit - Feels more comfortable that way


  • Insane
  1. Similar minor hitsound issues with the top difficulty
  2. 01:30:919 (5) - Minor but maybe move this more towards the left just a slight bit to makes thing a slight bit more comfortable here

    Looks clean


  • Advanced
  1. 00:52:944 (2) - Tbh I don't think a repeating slider here fit all that much ~ a simple circle + slider here works better for the beat/vocals around here but that just me
  2. 01:10:793 (2,4) - fixed this overlap please


  • Normal
  1. 00:58:641 - I feel that having soft-whistle right here after the next 1 00:59:020 (2) - don't sound right to me - maybe used drum - whistle instead





  • General
  1. No problem



Didn't see no issues with the Hard except similar stuff about hs like other diffs (basically just recheck all difficulties hs which shouldn't be long since I didn't point out too much)

Bring up some metadata and call me back soon :)
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_3638005
N a s y a
thank you Hailie~
all fix and many changed.

http://puu.sh/zduDA/76e90d8929.zip
Smokeman

Hailie wrote:


  • Advanced
  1. 00:52:944 (2) - Tbh I don't think a repeating slider here fit all that much ~ a simple circle + slider here works better for the beat/vocals around here but that just me ya
  2. 01:10:793 (2,4) - fixed this overlap pleaseit's intended, it has to stack in the the reverse direction and cause osu can't do that on its own i have to custom hotfix it. It look better and more balanced that way
hell yeah dude
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 67088
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.2
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 8417,39841,86550
DistanceSpacing: 1.35
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.6

[Metadata]
Title:Natsukoi Hanabi
TitleUnicode:夏恋花火
Artist:chano & 40mP
ArtistUnicode:シャノ & 40mP
Creator:Riven
Version:Smokeman's Advanced
Source:
Tags:Panoram a note sugar summer fireworks smokeman N_a_s_y_a nasya 40meterP Shano
BeatmapID:1298490
BeatmapSetID:538998

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:3.8
OverallDifficulty:4
ApproachRate:5
SliderMultiplier:1.3
SliderTickRate:1

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//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
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Okoratu
call me after them
Cheri
okay
Lacrimosa
let's go
Okoratu
00:12:501 - pls for the love of god in normal dont just spam whistles of a sampleset that has drums there, actual soft whistles sound much better :(

Smokeman wrote:

Okorin wrote:

ahh please leave the shitposting to reddit THIS IS A MEME FREE ZONE NOW >:(


[smokeman]
[list][*]ar 6 fits your sv and density better, e.g. it makes 00:02:818 (5,1) - rhythm gaps actually readable in a straightforward manner - if you do this adjust other setting accordingly yea
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DeletedUser_3638005
made this 00:12:501 - section S:C12 using the same whistles as this section 00:00:350 -

smokeman's advanced is now ar6 with his permission
Okoratu
kay
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