qq470521923 wrote:

Hi，M4M
萌新水摸

[Insane]

00:45:349 (5,6) - Ctrl + > 会好一点我认为

01:06:987 (1) - 这个可以去掉不太想漏音 但是这里节奏是有点怪 让我再想想

01:27:073 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1) - 这一段...怎么说感觉怪怪的，虽然我也不会改= =

01:33:107 (1,2,3) - 换成短折返滑条试试为了三角 什么都可以不管！（石乐至的表情）

01:34:487 (1,2,3) - ^

01:48:969 (6,7,1) - 这里有点不好打的感觉，可以把6,7换成滑条自己改了下

[Hard]

01:47:762 (1,1) - 这叠的不太好

以上~ GL:)

Ellyu wrote:

Ellyu wrote:

[General]
萌球的两个diff预览时间不同
soft-hitclap66.wav
drum-hitclap66.wav
drum-hitnormal66.wav
这几个没到100ms，每个wav文件都要至少100ms不然unrankable

唉我也不知道当时软件抽的什么风这几个没问题

Suzuki_1112 wrote:

M4M
来晚了=。=爱佳的摸不动，懒癌又发作

Hard

1. 00:04:228 (3,4) - 叠在00:03:969 (2) - 尾好点吧，毕竟hard里这种还是太困难 放近了点
2. 00:06:038 (1,2,3) - 离得近了，如果是制造停顿的效果的话我建议你stack在00:06:556 (3) - 上面 叠在1上面了
3. 00:37:073 (4,1,3,4) - 这几个看起来显得好乱，hard的话还是要老实跑火车吧0.0
4. 00:42:073 (2,4) - stack一下，看上去比较舒服摆了个三角
5. 00:44:659 (2,1) - 也是靠的有点近改了
6. 00:46:900 (1,2,3,4,5) - 挖，老鸽不要把，这里突然出现四个单点加上一个1/4不会断吗？改了
7. 01:47:762 (1,1) - 这种在Hard里最好避免换了个方向

整体来说美观度不是很足，而且节奏的话有点难了，可以nerf一下，开ds控制一下美观吧毕竟insane那么难……

Insane

1. 00:10:866 (8,9,1) - 太远了吧 改了
2. 00:16:038 (1,2,3,4,5) - 这种梗还是放在ex比较合适

超想留……我把cs改了 或许会好点（

明天继续写哎算了不写了我懒癌发作，我还欠了别人m4m呢现在赶过去（

Suzuki_1112 wrote:

2 months ago, 你终于挖出来了

tutuhaha wrote:

[Insane]
00:20:521 (3,1) - 不太建议这样搞，因为你slider的flow是往↙然而下个note是在↗，而且slider还减速了...就会很别扭 后面三连改了
00:37:762 (2) - 这里ctrl+g可能会比较好一点 那样感觉有点别扭……
00:37:762 (2,2,3) - 为了overlap牺牲了flow,不建议这么搞，2和3太近了 整个这一段都改了
00:39:142 (2,2,3) - 一样 一样
01:16:383 (2) - 右边移一点就正好放在两个slider中间 改了
01:17:590 (1,2) - 我觉得这边用打击感比较高的circle比较好 改了
01:18:107 (5,6) - 然后这俩换成slider? 这一整串下了连打……而且后面有kick slider就不动了
01:18:797 (1) - 这个也换成circle比较好，slider给人的感觉太弱了 为了强调鼓点啊
01:19:831 (1,2) - ......太近了 直接叠起来（
01:25:521 (3) - 在长白线结尾或者直接拉到红线代替1 改了

............实话来讲我觉得你还需要一个比较难的insane,现在对我来讲extra和insane的差距有点大
然后hard的圈圈比insane小.......个人会觉得这会是个槽点，不过嘛_(:3 」∠)_...... 本来是为了压难度和给放1/4跳的……后来想想不做好人了
加油(ง •̀_•́)ง

ts8zs wrote:

不过是谁做的 tag里的人我没搜出来啊:D
是爱佳神
unicode artist:沙野カモメ
我就问问还缺diff吗
缺个EZ实在不会做了（

ts8zs wrote:

[Insane]
00:04:314 (1,2) - both 1/4 shorter
00:13:624 - 1/6 here fixed
00:30:693 (4) - why 1/8 here
00:32:073 (1,2) - ctrl+G
00:41:211 - 1/6 here
01:30:981 (4) - not a pretty bezier
选曲不错
[moeri]
00:55:866 (2,1) - swap nc
01:01:900 (1) - divide to two 1/4 slider seems better
01:08:280 (4) - um...you can do it better!(I felt strange here and have no idea about fixing
01:09:659 (4) - ^
01:18:280 (3,4) - I feel too close 134,206
01:20:981 - 1/6 slider?
01:24:314 (1) - not pretty
good map.
不过是谁做的 tag里的人我没搜出来啊:D

unicode artist:沙野カモメ
我就问问还缺diff吗

Tofu1222 wrote:

[General]

1. The source should be jubeat prop instead of Jubeat.
2. Add "SOUND VOLTEX III GRAVITY WARS SDVX 3" to your tags since this song is also included in this arcade game as well.

Good luck!

raririn wrote:

要飞了吗

1. 00:08:101 (8,9) - 00:08:446 (1,2) - 这种1/2和1/4的间距不应该一样
2. 00:09:481 (8,9) - 后面类似的不提了，自己整个图看下吧
3. 00:12:239 (5,6) - 这个我觉得还是太难了，尤其是考虑到这个insane下面只有hard
4. 00:31:291 - 短滑条在这停吧，后面空一下不然容易断
5. 00:51:205 - 这里放个圈感觉好一点
6. 00:59:136 (1,1) - 这overlap很丑
7. 01:41:205 (2,3) - 01:41:636 (4,5) - 不一样的节奏用不同的梗吧
8. 01:42:412 (7) - 在这nc好点吧

1. 00:06:205 (2,1) - 这种难度还是不要弄这种间距梗
2. 00:10:687 (4,5) - 这圈和滑条的flow不好，要么滑条弄成直的要么换个弯法
3. 00:28:791 (3,1) - 同第一条
4. 01:39:136 (3,1) - 01:40:515 (3,1) - ^

1. 00:33:274 (1,1) - ds爆炸了

Karen wrote:

diffname命名统一，如果开头字母小写就改下hard和insane
好
Insane

1. 00:08:101 (8,9) - 00:08:446 (1,2) - 这种1/2和1/4的间距不应该一样
   整张图过了遍 我觉得混淆的地方都改了
2. 00:09:481 (8,9) - 后面类似的不提了，自己整个图看下吧
3. 00:12:239 (5,6) - 这个我觉得还是太难了，尤其是考虑到这个insane下面只有hard
   改了下滑条形状让6和5靠近了点
4. 00:31:291 - 短滑条在这停吧，后面空一下不然容易断
   ok
5. 00:51:205 - 这里放个圈感觉好一点
   放了
6. 00:59:136 (1,1) - 这overlap很丑
   改了
7. 01:41:205 (2,3) - 01:41:636 (4,5) - 不一样的节奏用不同的梗吧
   其实没懂……
8. 01:42:412 (7) - 在这nc好点吧
   加了

Hard

1. 00:06:205 (2,1) - 这种难度还是不要弄这种间距梗
   调了间距
2. 00:10:687 (4,5) - 这圈和滑条的flow不好，要么滑条弄成直的要么换个弯法
3. 00:28:791 (3,1) - 同第一条
4. 01:39:136 (3,1) - 01:40:515 (3,1) - ^
   换了个弯法

Normal

1. 00:33:274 (1,1) - ds爆炸了
   改了

easy ar可以-1

Garden wrote:

帮我-1好了

Karen wrote:

drum-hitclap66.wav 看下这个音效有没有用到
手头有工具的话看看normal-hitfinish66.wav和soft-hitfinish66.wav前面有没有超过5ms的delay，我懒得找工具了zz

1. this song comes from album "BEMANI SUMMER DIARY 2015 ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK" so add it in tags. (references: 1 2 3 4)
2. you could add "BEMANI KONAMI" since it's the company who creates this game, i saw most jubeat & sdvx maps added this in tags.

- Frontier - wrote:

pop this because insane uses 100% all the map, i don't think it fits with the song.
normal and hard also use constant 60% volume thorough the map. i don't think it fits with the song either since the song has inconsistent intensities. you should use various volumes instead, like how easy and lemonade diffs do.

[general]

1. this song comes from album "BEMANI SUMMER DIARY 2015 ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK" so add it in tags. (references: 1 2 3 4)
2. you could add "BEMANI KONAMI" since it's the company who creates this game, i saw most jubeat & sdvx maps added this in tags.

will do but there are too many bemanis already in the tags so i neglected that

[moecho]
hp and od is the same as easy diff, you should increase it so it won't be repetitive.ok
00:51:205 - there is a quite dominant sound here that you shouldn't skip to map this spot.
the previous slider is following the lead while ignoring the drumbeats. A downbeat might worth paying some attention but if I do so I will also have to change the rhythm for 00:50:343 (6) - , making it denser than any other sections in the diff so I shall keep it

[hard]
00:03:274 (2,1) - it's visually the same as 00:03:101 (1,2) - so players could confused that these hitobjects have 1/2-beat gap between these hitobjects, which gives unfair reading difficulty. i'd recommend to move it further.as you wish
00:16:722 (1,2) - this is kinda questionable since it's actually the same as 00:13:963 (1,1) - and 00:19:481 (1,1) -, but this part uses sliders not circles.donno what i was thinking but yeah changed
00:38:446 (4,1) - players could think that these have 1/2-beat gap between these hitobjects since it's actually the same spacing as 00:38:274 (3,4) -. so move further to avoid reading difficulty pleasei still think it would be fine but, okay
00:51:205 (1) - the sound here is pretty dominant, slider head doesn't literally give much feedback for players. i'd recommend you to use a circle here and followed by a slider will be better.will do since no difficulty issues will raise at this stage
00:56:722 (1,2) - i'd suggest to make the slider shape different since players could think that this has the same slider velocity.
but they are in the same sv i think...
01:02:239 - the sound here is pretty dominant, being just a slider reverse doesn't seem to be suitable with the sound's intensity. will be better if you add a circle or start a slider here instead. as same as 01:13:274 -
while being subjective i dont really like a mixture of drum and lead for rhythm at the same time. so I remapped kiai following lead mainly and some drums when the lead is absent.
If i completely ignore drums then this sound wouldnt be that dominant right :p

[insane]
01:29:710 (1) - shouldn't add nc here since it could make an unfair reading problem here. (like, players could think that these hitobjects 01:29:710 (1,1) - have 1/2-beat-long gap between these, which could eventually make players miss) so removing nc here would work the best.I removed the nc for 01:29:825 (2) - since the ncing logic behind this is every 5 objects when streaming
01:41:205 (2,3,4,5) - avoid switching between 1/2 and 1/4 stacks. this may cause reading issues for new players, since two different rhythms are visually the same.will do

[lemonade]
01:43:618 - i don't think using 100% volume here is okay since there isn't any part that uses 100% volume, and it doesn't fit with the song's intensity.switched to 60%

call karen to nominate again i guess, since i popped it.

nika mika wrote:

no idea what happened but i uploaded the old mapset while making it worse by messing up green lines...
will upload after restoring what i can remember

Karen wrote:

hitsound问题也一起回炉了，重新改下

tag不统一

弄完再自己过一遍mod什么的吧，问题越改越多我都不敢泡了

ailv wrote:

Hard

01:13:963 (1,2,3,4) - i suggest to keep same flow as 01:12:584 (1,2,3,4) - so you keep moving in a triangle here too
01:47:756 (1,1) - make these overlap perfectly?
00:11:205 (1,1,1) - nc spam here isn't neccesary since it's all 1/2 anyways, there isn't a special rhythm remove ncs from 00:11:377 (1,1) - 00:11:722 (1) - and nc 00:11:894 (2) - instead where the drums start

Insane
00:23:274 (5) - two circles instead? will be better to catch the melody that way

Lemonade
00:22:067 (4) - nc here for consistency
01:20:084 (2) - this slider doesn't cover any sound, it's silent after the head,maybe just turn it into a circle?

Karen wrote:

爱绿

-Mo- wrote:

Hello, unfortunately we need to disqualify this map as there's a couple of issues that need to be addressed.

Firstly, the normal-hitfinish66 and soft-hitfinish66 still have the issue of having a delay larger tham 5ms at the start of the file. Replace the files with this fixed one.

Secondly, the normal difficulty uses several long chains of notes with 1/2 gaps, which is unacceptable for this difficulty level. In some cases the rhythm used is even more dense than was used in the hard difficulty. It would be better to remove some notes from these chains so that there are gaps to give beginner players breaks. Some of the main areas of concern are:

00:34:653 - 00:38:791 - 00:44:653 - 01:00:343 - 01:12:067 - 01:17:584.

Additionally, it would be nice if places like 00:01:550 the intro used a lower note density as to reflect the calmness of the song.

The BNs should handle requalification from here, though feel free to contact me for any questions.

Monstrata wrote:

moecho's Lemonade

01:07:929 (1,2,3) - Needs 1.50x SV.

Call me Karen back

-Mo- wrote:

I still kinda wish the overall density of Normal was nerfed a bit more, since the rhythm used now is very similar to that of Hard, just with a smaller distance snap. Also if you consider that the Easy uses mostly 1/1 rhythms, you can see that there's a fairly large jump in difficulty between Easy and Normal despite what the star ratings say.

It is a little better than it was before, but I still think the following chains could be broken up a bit more:
- 00:34:653 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) -
- 00:38:791 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - Replacing 00:41:205 (3) with a circle would work.
- 01:00:515 (2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) -
- 01:31:722 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) -
- 01:47:239 (2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1) - Just removing 01:51:722 (4) should be fine here.

The spreading of these lower diffs is always going to be skewed with a Normal like this, and I don't want to ask you to hard nerf it into the ground because that would ruin it. I'm fine with it being a little bit skewed, and it's almost there, it just needs a few more tweaks.

Zethchi wrote:

图真的毒，很多地方节奏难以与音乐本身的节拍对上，全靠目押来打。此外谱面的可读性极其糟糕，note叠加的迷惑性极强，根本就是为了难而难。

[Mahua] wrote:

噗嗤