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Weber wrote:

Hello! Hey!


Easy

00:39:792 (4) - This cursor flow is a little harsh for Easy, Ctrl-G'ing it would provide a more comfortable cursor path between 00:38:660 (3,4,1). I personally like how this flows, it's a really slow map and I didn't find a big problem moving the cursor in this way.
01:02:436 (3) - Similar to ^, rotating this by about 120 degrees would be much more smooth. Same here.
01:08:096 (4) - NCs from here are a bit weird, NC here, and at 01:13:757 (2), while removing the NCs at 01:12:625 (1) - and 01:10:361 (1). Changed some combos on my own in this section, following my comboing.
01:39:798 (1) - The red anchor in this repeat slider is a little sharp, bringing it out a little would make it a little more appropriate for players around this level since they would probably be confused with the 3/4th changes with the shape of the slider itself, try this: https://i.imgur.com/ksSkdtl.png (Would also make the gap between (1,2) look a little better. I don't know if it looks better, but I agree with the rest of your reasons hehe. Fixed.
01:56:780 (4) - Again, this could flow much better, try moving it to around here instead: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9267239 Definetly looks and plays better. Fixed this one.
02:23:953 (3) - Same ^ here: https://i.imgur.com/Aj69WIo.png I don't have problems with this one.


Normal

00:32:999 (2,3,4) - I'd like to see (2,3) changed into a slider to make things a little more streamlined.\ Other modder suggested me something similar, so I changed it. Use a slider in (2,3) and added a single note after that for consistency with 00:30:734 (2,3).
01:14:606 (2) - A little nitpicky, but moving this over to about x:196 y:284 would improve the visual flow. Well.. That's true hehe. Done.
03:36:412 (2) - Move this slider a little further out here since it's the end of the song, the DS just doesn't make blankets like this look very good: https://i.imgur.com/ZgJtSR0.png Fixed in a similar way.

Really solid difficulty.


Hard

01:16:588 (3,4,1) - This is definitely a little janky visually, bringing them upwards might make it a little more clear: https://i.imgur.com/RaNoCQo.png I don't see any problem with that :/, I like how it looks/plays, so I decided to don't change that.

Again, really good difficulty.


Good luck!
That was unexpected hehe.
Thanks for modding!
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Hey!
kantan

00:13:752 (17) - This note sounds better as don in my opinion.
00:18:280 (21) - I feel the sound from 00:17:148 to 00:18:280 isn't properly emphasized. You should change 00:280 (21) to don to do so.
00:33:565 (39) - This note lands on a high-pitched drum so it should be kat. Also, 00:34:131 lands on a low-pitched drum, so make it a don.
00:44:321 (51,52,53) - Nice emphasis on the vocals!
00:52:246 (60) - Same here as above, this note lands on a high-pitched drum so it should be kat, and 00:52:812 lands on a low-pitched drum so make it a don.
01:48:855 - Maybe prolong the Kiai to 01:57:912, the chorus doesn't really seem to end here until 01:57:912.
02:14:895 (156,157,158) - Still sounds good so I still have to mention it :D
02:20:556 (162) - Following the pattern you had at 00:55:642, this note should be a don.
03:05:277 (214,215) - You should do what I mentioned at 00:33:565 (39). It just sounds off with your pattern.
futsuu

00:08:657 (11,12,13) - Judging from the fact that you based these triple 1/2 notes on the piano notes in the song, you should make this rhythm d k d to follow the piano.
00:38:660 (70) - This sounds inconsistent with the rest of the similar patterns you mapped before it. Perhaps make it a don for consistency.
00:52:812 - You should add a note here, preferably a kat, as it feels empty without a note.
02:12:065 (264) - Add a kat here since this feels empty.
muzukashii

00:08:374 (13,14,15) - I feel this triplet should be d d d instead of k k k since the piano is in a lower octave at this point.
00:30:734 (65) - Move this note to 00:30:876. It sounds interesting in my opinion and since you happened to do the same at 00:35:122, it feels a lot nicer especially since a triplet pattern is sandwiched between the two.
oni

Pleasantly surprised! I found nothing.
Sorry for the short mod, this map is practically perfect.
Good luck towards ranked!
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UniqueBlock11 wrote:

Hey! Hiya!
kantan

00:13:752 (17) - This note sounds better as don in my opinion.
00:18:280 (21) - I feel the sound from 00:17:148 to 00:18:280 isn't properly emphasized. You should change 00:280 (21) to don to do so.
00:33:565 (39) - This note lands on a high-pitched drum so it should be kat. Also, 00:34:131 lands on a low-pitched drum, so make it a don. Everything fixed till this point c:
00:44:321 (51,52,53) - Nice emphasis on the vocals! Thanks :)
00:52:246 (60) - Same here as above, this note lands on a high-pitched drum so it should be kat, and 00:52:812 lands on a low-pitched drum so make it a don. I supposed you wanted to say d k instead. Because I've used k d, even though I changed it into d k.
01:48:855 - Maybe prolong the Kiai to 01:57:912, the chorus doesn't really seem to end here until 01:57:912. Even if the chorus continue in term of music it doesn't in term of vocals, that's why i decided to end it here.
02:14:895 (156,157,158) - Still sounds good so I still have to mention it :D Ty again c:
02:20:556 (162) - Following the pattern you had at 00:55:642, this note should be a don.
03:05:277 (214,215) - You should do what I mentioned at 00:33:565 (39). It just sounds off with your pattern. Both fixed.
futsuu

00:08:657 (11,12,13) - Judging from the fact that you based these triple 1/2 notes on the piano notes in the song, you should make this rhythm d k d to follow the piano. I prefer to keep this part as easy as possible because it's the beginning of the map and the music represent that. In general I only used k d k in the map, so that's why i'll keep that.
00:38:660 (70) - This sounds inconsistent with the rest of the similar patterns you mapped before it. Perhaps make it a don for consistency. Okie.
00:52:812 - You should add a note here, preferably a kat, as it feels empty without a note. I prefered to use this point as a little rest time, emphasizing a bit more vocals with the previous finisher, because it become to much continue if I add a note there for the difficulty.
02:12:065 (264) - Add a kat here since this feels empty. Makes sense.
muzukashii

00:08:374 (13,14,15) - I feel this triplet should be d d d instead of k k k since the piano is in a lower octave at this point. Hmm.. I don't know why but listening to the piano, I prefer kkk here. I'm not changing it now, but I'll wait for more opinions.
00:30:734 (65) - Move this note to 00:30:876. It sounds interesting in my opinion and since you happened to do the same at 00:35:122, it feels a lot nicer especially since a triplet pattern is sandwiched between the two. Hmm.. I'm following vocals here and I think this 3-plet works better for that reason. You can notice that my 2-plets generally follow drums when they are imposible to don't be followed xD.
oni

Pleasantly surprised! I found nothing. Nice to listen that c:
Sorry for the short mod, this map is practically perfect.
Good luck towards ranked!
Thanks a lot for Modding! :D
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OwO (I love Owl City...)

Yo, can i make an insane for this map?
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Hi. Here from Christmas Queue. Hope this finds you well!

[Hard]

01:56:497 (4,5) – This reads like ½ rhythm.

02:34:142 (1,2) – The reverse slider doesn't sell me on the guitar or vocals, so the 1/1 pause between them didn't feel as nice as clicking on 02:35:274 - . So one option is to put a circle there, but you might want to try something else to keep the intention you originally had. For instance, 02:34:567 – is a note that comes to a quick stop, but 02:34:991 – is held more on the guitar, so a rhythm like this might avoid the above issue while still doing what you wanted to do (I hope): http://puu.sh/yeesR/72618c43cf.jpg

02:36:831 (2,3) - It's a bit annoying that the symmetry is off. You could try to find a way to move everything before it to the left, but that ruins the symmetry at 02:35:841 (3,1) - , so maybe try a rotation on (2) by 15 degrees. This will make you go off the grid by 6 pixels, which is pretty much fine, and it would look like: http://puu.sh/yeeiU/8e3806b13c.jpg

03:29:619 (4,5) – When I rotate this 20 degrees, I see this: http://puu.sh/yedPv/eada594da0.jpg. Try copy/pasting/flipping (4) onto (5) at this point, and then rotate it 20 degrees back so that it's more symmetrical like: http://puu.sh/yedUz/17c7bd2479.jpg

03:35:280 (1,2,3,4,5,1) – spinner might be better to fade out

[Normal]

00:12:053 (1) – This note makes me care about that tambourine on the white tick. That's a big reason why I was upset at 00:14:318 – when there wasn't something clickable and instead I had to wait an extra ½ note for the next note. It can be tricky to follow the vocals, so if I may suggest something, try making 00:13:186 (3) – a reverse slider.

00:19:130 (3) – This vocal is much trickier to combine with a note at 00:18:847 - . Ideally you would have something on that tick because the 3/2 rhythm felt off to me. I don't expect you to like it, but at least test out something like: http://puu.sh/yefhN/ed9a3a7b74.jpg .

00:17:148 (2) – This looks funky to me. Sliders without so sharp a cusp like 00:34:131 (1) - looked a lot nicer to me.
01:51:685 (2) - ^
03:26:789 (2) - ^
03:22:260 (2) – oh my gosh, this is amazing, much better aesthetic and interesting shape. Maybe do more of this.

00:56:775 (1,2) – I like using a technique like this where the the sliderend is the same DS away to the next slider as the slider head http://puu.sh/yefs0/b34e898ad0.jpg

03:33:016 (1) – Consider using a spinner to fade out maybe a bit nicer. Same for Easy.

Nice mapset for standard, have a star. Good luck!
posted
Mod too, cause why not?

(As I was typing this up, the mod above was posted, didn't really look it over, so if there's any notes that are the same in this and that, sorry.)

mod
Honestly, this was basically perfect, most of these are just suggestions, so I am fine if you don't do any of these, but anyway...
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Miscellaneous


01:30:174 - Seems a little strange to turn off kiai then turn it back on immediately... so I don't know if this was intentional or not, but in case it isn't, I'm pointing it out.
03:28:487 - Also, why is kiai toggled on for a split second here? Again, not sure if on purpose, but pointing it out.

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Easy

(All Suggestions)
02:40:935 (4) - I think it would fit a bit better if the spinner started here.
02:53:389 (2,3) - I think these sliders would work well with a curve, but that's just me (2 having it's curve go up, and 3 going down).
03:19:996 (2) - I personally would've made this circle a slider that extends to the next white tick.

Otherwise, I found nothing wrong, this was fantastic!
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Normal

(All Suggestions)
00:52:246 (1,2) - I think if you had these curves on the bottom/left side, it would look better than having them on the top/right side.
01:19:418 (1) - Same thing here, would put curve going the other way.
01:51:119 (1) - Same thing again, but I don't think this would make that much of a difference, so you can leave this I guess...
02:40:935 (4) - Once again, I feel like the spinner could start here, but it's fine.
03:35:280 (1) - Another slider that could use a curve, preferably on the left.

That's all I wanted to say about it, This was also, otherwise great!
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Hard

(All Suggestions)
01:03:568 (1) - I'd have the curve going the other way for this slider.
01:34:137 (3) - I'd put a curve on this. I would have the curve on top, personally, but it looks just as good (to me) on the bottom too.
01:47:723 (3) - This one is not that important either, it'd be fine if you left it, but I'd make another curve here, on the top.
02:40:935 (5) - I think you know what I want to say about the spinner here...
03:13:769 (3) - I'm not too sure on this, you don't have to do this one either, but this could look better with the curve on the other side, I don't know what you'll think though.

That's it! Once again, wonderful job on this, this was awesome!
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I can tell that you kinda have your own mapping style, so I honestly wouldn't be too surprised if you didn't most of these.

That's it! I really love this song, and this map. Good job!
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YO_WUZ_UP wrote:

OwO (I love Owl City...)

Yo, can i make an insane for this map?
Sorry, but I prefer to keep this set as it is. The song is pretty quite and I don't want to have anything harder.

Thanks a lot for modding guys!

I'll check them tomorrow (is quite late right now).

[]

pinataman

pinataman wrote:



Hi. Here from Christmas Queue. Hope this finds you well!

[Hard]

01:56:497 (4,5) – This reads like ½ rhythm. Hmm.. It plays fine, I'm using the same spacing and it doesn't cause confusion if you ask me.

02:34:142 (1,2) – The reverse slider doesn't sell me on the guitar or vocals, so the 1/1 pause between them didn't feel as nice as clicking on 02:35:274 - . So one option is to put a circle there, but you might want to try something else to keep the intention you originally had. For instance, 02:34:567 – is a note that comes to a quick stop, but 02:34:991 – is held more on the guitar, so a rhythm like this might avoid the above issue while still doing what you wanted to do (I hope): http://puu.sh/yeesR/72618c43cf.jpg I think a lot about this one, but I think it fits properly the song. The first slider is following guitar and then you have a little pause where vocals don't appear and the guitar sound dissapear, then starts vocals. That's why I leave that little pasue, it emphasize better the new section in vocals in my opinion.

02:36:831 (2,3) - It's a bit annoying that the symmetry is off. You could try to find a way to move everything before it to the left, but that ruins the symmetry at 02:35:841 (3,1) - , so maybe try a rotation on (2) by 15 degrees. This will make you go off the grid by 6 pixels, which is pretty much fine, and it would look like: http://puu.sh/yeeiU/8e3806b13c.jpg Sure. Fixed in a similar way.

03:29:619 (4,5) – When I rotate this 20 degrees, I see this: http://puu.sh/yedPv/eada594da0.jpg. Try copy/pasting/flipping (4) onto (5) at this point, and then rotate it 20 degrees back so that it's more symmetrical like: http://puu.sh/yedUz/17c7bd2479.jpg I rotate (4) as you told me because it looks pretty well and I change the rest on my own.

03:35:280 (1,2,3,4,5,1) – spinner might be better to fade out Nah. I can emphasize "Kiss Me Babe, It's Christmas time" better with notes, in addition I reduce the volume in this section to provide this effect, that's why I prefer to don't change that.

[Normal]

00:12:053 (1) – This note makes me care about that tambourine on the white tick. That's a big reason why I was upset at 00:14:318 – when there wasn't something clickable and instead I had to wait an extra ½ note for the next note. It can be tricky to follow the vocals, so if I may suggest something, try making 00:13:186 (3) – a reverse slider. I decided to move the note in 00:12:053 1/2 forward. Basically because I didn't agree with adding a reverse arrow and (3) but would be better to make patterns consistent in this first section.

00:19:130 (3) – This vocal is much trickier to combine with a note at 00:18:847 - . Ideally you would have something on that tick because the 3/2 rhythm felt off to me. I don't expect you to like it, but at least test out something like: http://puu.sh/yefhN/ed9a3a7b74.jpg . I had something like that in the past but some modders asked me to change it because it was not following properly vocals, and I have to say it's true. If you listen properly vocals starts at 00:18:988 - and I don't want to make this harder.

00:17:148 (2) – This looks funky to me. Sliders without so sharp a cusp like 00:34:131 (1) - looked a lot nicer to me.
01:51:685 (2) - ^
03:26:789 (2) - ^ I don't have problems with them :/. If anybody else say me something about this I'll try to change those slider shapes but I'm not doing that for the moment.
03:22:260 (2) – oh my gosh, this is amazing, much better aesthetic and interesting shape. Maybe do more of this. Thanks c:

00:56:775 (1,2) – I like using a technique like this where the the sliderend is the same DS away to the next slider as the slider head http://puu.sh/yefs0/b34e898ad0.jpg looks cool hehe.

03:33:016 (1) – Consider using a spinner to fade out maybe a bit nicer. Same for Easy. Same as Hard

Nice mapset for standard, have a star. Good luck!

Thanks for modding and starring :D

YO_WUZ_UP wrote:

Mod too, cause why not?

(As I was typing this up, the mod above was posted, didn't really look it over, so if there's any notes that are the same in this and that, sorry.)

mod
Honestly, this was basically perfect, most of these are just suggestions, so I am fine if you don't do any of these, but anyway...
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Miscellaneous


01:30:174 - Seems a little strange to turn off kiai then turn it back on immediately... so I don't know if this was intentional or not, but in case it isn't, I'm pointing it out.
03:28:487 - Also, why is kiai toggled on for a split second here? Again, not sure if on purpose, but pointing it out. Yeah.. They are intentional. During the gameplay it provides an emphasize when stop an important section of the song and start a new one.

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Easy

(All Suggestions)
02:40:935 (4) - I think it would fit a bit better if the spinner started here. Hmm.. I don't think so, if you listen properly vocals you will notice he say "Holi" and then "daaaaaaaays" and I'm following that.
02:53:389 (2,3) - I think these sliders would work well with a curve, but that's just me (2 having it's curve go up, and 3 going down). Let me use some stright slider please hehe.
03:19:996 (2) - I personally would've made this circle a slider that extends to the next white tick. I prefer to keep it as it is, basically because I'm looking for variety in the map and I don't want to do it as similar as the first chorus. In addition, with (3) I can emphasize better vocals.

Otherwise, I found nothing wrong, this was fantastic!
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Normal

(All Suggestions)
00:52:246 (1,2) - I think if you had these curves on the bottom/left side, it would look better than having them on the top/right side. I'll keep these, I think they plays fine and I don't want to change a lot of things for that.
01:19:418 (1) - Same thing here, would put curve going the other way. I do agree here, it looks much better. Fixed.
01:51:119 (1) - Same thing again, but I don't think this would make that much of a difference, so you can leave this I guess... On my personal point of view, it looks and flows better. So, fixed.
02:40:935 (4) - Once again, I feel like the spinner could start here, but it's fine. Same as Easy.
03:35:280 (1) - Another slider that could use a curve, preferably on the left. Alright, curved a bit.

That's all I wanted to say about it, This was also, otherwise great!
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Hard

(All Suggestions)
01:03:568 (1) - I'd have the curve going the other way for this slider. I actually like this one, I prefer to don't touch it.
01:34:137 (3) - I'd put a curve on this. I would have the curve on top, personally, but it looks just as good (to me) on the bottom too. Curve, I could find a better flow here.
01:47:723 (3) - This one is not that important either, it'd be fine if you left it, but I'd make another curve here, on the top. I decided to keep this one, it's the best flow I can find here imo.
02:40:935 (5) - I think you know what I want to say about the spinner here... Same as other difficulties.
03:13:769 (3) - I'm not too sure on this, you don't have to do this one either, but this could look better with the curve on the other side, I don't know what you'll think though. I was not totally agree with this one either.

That's it! Once again, wonderful job on this, this was awesome!
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I can tell that you kinda have your own mapping style, so I honestly wouldn't be too surprised if you didn't most of these.

That's it! I really love this song, and this map. Good job!
Thanks a lot for your help too :D.

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Taiko mod from my queue.

[Oni]
00:58:473 (195) - K here? Helps flow a little better into the gap, and there is a snare sound in the beat.
01:06:681 (231) - Change this to a k then add a d at 01:06:964 to fill in the gap and adjust the flow a little, it feels pretty weird to play. (or you can make a double to quad type pattern where you add a note at 01:06:823. I would say kd compliments to kddk you have in place.)
01:07:813 (236,237,238) - Change this to kkd or ddd (or any pattern ending in d honestly. doesn't even need to be a triplet). Accenting the kicks in the music here would be nice because there are 2 in a row that are pretty loud.
02:08:810 (497) - Maybe change this to d? dkkkd feels a little weird for this section, especially since you had that longer stream starting with dkkkd a measure before. Also it accents the piano more accurately since there are only 2 piano notes.
02:10:933 (507) - Change this to k. Represents to vocal and beat pretty well, imo.

[Muzukashii]
Pretty high note count to be at HP7 I feel. Go down to 6?

01:06:964 (191,192,193) - ddd instead? the kkk patterns twice in a row kinda breaks the flow, imo. The ddd pattern has no problem fitting in there smoothly because of the kicks and overall rhythm of the song.
01:39:798 (303,304,305,306,307,308,309) - The pattern structure feels really weird leading into the rest of the pattern. Just shifting the notes around helps a lot here. This is what I would suggest: (303 being at 01:39:798)
Of course you don't have to use this exact pattern, just the structure of the notes.
The same goes for a few other sections in the map, i'll link them all here: 01:44:326 (319,320,321,322,323,324,325) - 03:05:843 (566,567,568,569,570,571,572) - 03:10:372 (582,583,584,585,586,587,588) -

[Futsuu]
Like Muzu I would lower to HP here based off note count to 7.

Excellent difficulties as always. Spread is really good too. GL dude. :)
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MMzz wrote:

Taiko mod from my queue.

[Oni]
00:58:473 (195) - K here? Helps flow a little better into the gap, and there is a snare sound in the beat. It sounds cool. Done.
01:06:681 (231) - Change this to a k then add a d at 01:06:964 to fill in the gap and adjust the flow a little, it feels pretty weird to play. (or you can make a double to quad type pattern where you add a note at 01:06:823. I would say kd compliments to kddk you have in place.) Decided to use a 2-plet / 4-plet pattern here, it sounds better and it's more consistent with my other patterns. In addition, I decided to change 01:09:512 (246) - into a kat to don't make a lot of repetitive patterns, it follows the music too.
01:07:813 (236,237,238) - Change this to kkd or ddd (or any pattern ending in d honestly. doesn't even need to be a triplet). Accenting the kicks in the music here would be nice because there are 2 in a row that are pretty loud. Changed it into kkd. This 3-plet is following properly the music, so I prefer to keep that.
02:08:810 (497) - Maybe change this to d? dkkkd feels a little weird for this section, especially since you had that longer stream starting with dkkkd a measure before. Also it accents the piano more accurately since there are only 2 piano notes. In this case I'll leave this dkkkd. Basically because I'm following the new "sound" in the music (yeah.. this sharp tone) and I think following that witk kats is the best option imo.
02:10:933 (507) - Change this to k. Represents to vocal and beat pretty well, imo. Sure thing c:

[Muzukashii]
Pretty high note count to be at HP7 I feel. Go down to 6? Sure thing.

01:06:964 (191,192,193) - ddd instead? the kkk patterns twice in a row kinda breaks the flow, imo. The ddd pattern has no problem fitting in there smoothly because of the kicks and overall rhythm of the song. Yeah.. I agree with you here. Changed into ddd.
01:39:798 (303,304,305,306,307,308,309) - The pattern structure feels really weird leading into the rest of the pattern. Just shifting the notes around helps a lot here. This is what I would suggest: (303 being at 01:39:798)
Of course you don't have to use this exact pattern, just the structure of the notes.
The same goes for a few other sections in the map, i'll link them all here: 01:44:326 (319,320,321,322,323,324,325) - 03:05:843 (566,567,568,569,570,571,572) - 03:10:372 (582,583,584,585,586,587,588) - Fixed all of them. I used d x kd k ddd in these cases. I think they sound better now. Thanks c:

[Futsuu]
Like Muzu I would lower to HP here based off note count to 7. Reduced.

Excellent difficulties as always. Spread is really good too. GL dude. :)
Wow.. It was really helpful man!
Thanks a lot for your help! :D
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Proto-bubbled!
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Gonzvlo wrote:

Proto-bubbled!
Y yo que pensaba que ya no sabias modear :o

IRC log
02:35 Gonzvlo: Bueno tengo sugerencias, te digo (?
02:35 mancuso_JM_: cuando quieras
02:35 mancuso_JM_: remap? c:
02:37 Gonzvlo: (Pregunta random 2, hacen diferencia entre Z y S, como en Casa y Caza?)
02:37 Gonzvlo: Pues sí :c
02:37 mancuso_JM_: lo sabia :D
02:37 mancuso_JM_: btw.. no, es todo lo mismo jaja
02:37 mancuso_JM_: no estamos en españa
02:37 mancuso_JM_: sabes de que estan hablando por el contexto nomas
02:38 Gonzvlo: Eso pensé, solo confirmando
02:38 Gonzvlo: En Perú tampoco
02:38 Gonzvlo: Es todo los mismo
02:38 mancuso_JM_: creo que en todo latinoamerica es asi
02:38 Gonzvlo: Seguramente, pero pensé que tal vez Uruguay no
02:38 Gonzvlo: 00:12:336 -
02:39 mancuso_JM_: Hard?
02:39 Gonzvlo: Aham
02:40 Gonzvlo: (Todo lo que viene es sobre esa primera parte de la canción)
02:40 Gonzvlo: No entendi muy bien que estabas siguiendo xd
02:40 mancuso_JM_: creo suponer lo que se viene
02:40 mancuso_JM_: eso xD
02:40 Gonzvlo: El primer combo como que sigue el piano
02:40 Gonzvlo: Pero esa nota 5 ya va con las vocales
02:40 Gonzvlo: y de ahí en adelante es basicamente vocales
02:41 mancuso_JM_: eso es cierto
02:41 Gonzvlo: Bueno, yo le pondría NC a ese (5)
02:41 mancuso_JM_: listo
02:41 Gonzvlo: O lo eliminaría (?)
02:42 Gonzvlo: es la única nota que empieza un combo en offbeat lol
02:42 Gonzvlo: (pero las vocales lo respaldan)
02:42 Gonzvlo: Entonces, no sé e.e
02:42 mancuso_JM_: queda muy vacio sin nada, quiero clickear algo en ese punto xD
02:43 Gonzvlo: sí entiendo
02:43 Gonzvlo: 00:10:072 -
02:43 Gonzvlo: Tal vez agregaría la nota ahí para ya seguir las vocales por completo?
02:43 Gonzvlo: ahí ya no habría problema con lo que sigue
02:43 Gonzvlo: pues estás siguiendo las vocales desde el comienzo
02:44 mancuso_JM_: creo que tienes razón, bienvenida simetria c:
02:45 Gonzvlo: lol e.e
02:45 Gonzvlo: simetría 4
02:45 Gonzvlo: 44
02:45 Gonzvlo: 33
02:45 mancuso_JM_: :DDD
02:45 Gonzvlo: 00:17:148 (1) - qué onda con ese combo :v
02:46 Gonzvlo: Mejor eliminalo para mantener los combos de 2 stanzas?
02:46 Gonzvlo: Incluso si hay ese "hueco" antes, el drain no es alto, no debería haber problema
02:47 mancuso_JM_: lo habia agregado porque reduje la velocidad de ese slider, pero no tiene demasiado sentido igual el (1,1) ese
02:47 mancuso_JM_: lo saco
02:48 Gonzvlo: Hmm creo que no hay problema con la velocidad, el bpm no es muy alto y aparecen los ticks
02:48 mancuso_JM_: si, por eso
02:49 mancuso_JM_: ya está pronto lo del nc c:
02:51 Gonzvlo: Okay un segundo
02:51 Gonzvlo: mientras, en Uruguay dicen sho o yo?
02:51 mancuso_JM_: sho
02:52 mancuso_JM_: "ll" e "y" se pronuncian igual aca
02:53 Gonzvlo: 00:14:318 -
02:54 Gonzvlo: 00:23:375 -
02:54 Gonzvlo: Esos momentos de la canción, como los mappeaste adelante me parece que está bueno
02:54 Gonzvlo: Pero en el inicio está un poco extraño
02:54 Gonzvlo: Entiendo que no puede ser igual pq el inicio es más lento
02:54 Gonzvlo: pero
02:55 Gonzvlo: 00:14:318 - El combo empieza en basicamente nada (no hay sonido)
02:55 Gonzvlo: 00:14:601 - a partir de este punto sigue las vocales
02:55 mancuso_JM_: te digo la verdad, estuve dudando mucho esos puntos
02:56 mancuso_JM_: lo mismo con 00:21:111 y 00:18:847
02:56 mancuso_JM_: el teclado este xD
02:56 Gonzvlo: Entonces, mi sugerencia, es tal vez, como el inicio es más lento, simplificar los ritmos a solo líneas blancas y rojas
02:57 Gonzvlo: Ya cuando inicia la parte fuerte de la canción dejas los beats en 1/4, como está ahora
02:58 mancuso_JM_: dame un minuto.. ya vuelvo
02:58 mancuso_JM_: el baño me llama xD
02:58 Gonzvlo: Osea, en resumen, 00:23:375 - 00:14:318 - cambiar esos endings en 1/4 para simplificar los ritmos en la parte de introducción de la canción
02:58 Gonzvlo: ahre (? ya es hora
03:00 mancuso_JM_: ya estoy xD
03:00 Gonzvlo: tan rápido :o
03:00 Gonzvlo: Bueno en esa parte era eso :v
03:02 Gonzvlo: 00:25:074 (1) - Este combo no sé si lo quitaste, yo lo quitaría, solo queda el que sigue
03:03 mancuso_JM_: tuve que salir porque se me habia jodido el teclado
03:03 mancuso_JM_: xD
03:04 Gonzvlo: Que joda con Bancho, te llegaron los mensajes?
03:04 mancuso_JM_: si si jaja
03:04 mancuso_JM_: te decia que se me habia jodido el teclado, por eso tuve que salir del juego
03:04 Gonzvlo: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9543691
03:05 mancuso_JM_: esos ultimos no
03:05 mancuso_JM_: mira.. lo que hice fue eliminar unas notas y unos comienzos de sliders
03:05 Gonzvlo: En lo de los ritmos del comienzo?
03:05 mancuso_JM_: sep
03:06 mancuso_JM_: pero esos sliders que empiezan en los ticks azules los quiero dejar
03:06 mancuso_JM_: me gustan como van
03:06 mancuso_JM_: actualizo y lo miras
03:06 Gonzvlo: Vale, pero mejoró?
03:06 Gonzvlo: Okay
03:06 Gonzvlo: Lo de los Finish normal me parece que suena bastante bien, pruébalo :3
03:07 Gonzvlo: (En Uruguay dicen "bacan"?)
03:07 mancuso_JM_: ya los pruebo
03:07 mancuso_JM_: emm.. nope
03:07 mancuso_JM_: el nc que dijiste lo acabo de eliminar
03:07 mancuso_JM_: btw.. ya actualice
03:08 Gonzvlo: Nope qué :(?
03:08 mancuso_JM_: no decimos bacan xD
03:08 Gonzvlo: Y qué dicen?
03:08 mancuso_JM_: definime bacan xD
03:09 Gonzvlo: Chevere
03:09 Gonzvlo: ? xd
03:09 mancuso_JM_: genial (?
03:09 mancuso_JM_: demas (?
03:10 Gonzvlo: Aham
03:11 mancuso_JM_: hmm.. estoy probando los finish pero no me terminan de convencer, pero es cierto que suena distinto
03:12 Gonzvlo: Podrías ponerlo solo en los cambios grandes, tal vez
03:12 mancuso_JM_: mostrame como los agregaste (el tema del sampleset/additions)
03:14 Gonzvlo: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9543716
03:14 Gonzvlo: Solo los additions en Normal
03:16 mancuso_JM_: no me terminan de convencer :c
03:16 mancuso_JM_: principalmente porque estoy siguiendo mucho el sonido de los drums
03:16 Gonzvlo: >:(
03:17 mancuso_JM_: es cierto que suena un poco distinto, pero voy a priorizar eso
03:17 Gonzvlo: Bueno no es algo que tienes que cambiar sí o sí
03:17 Gonzvlo: 00:43:188 - Este combo-ing quedó un poco extraño
03:18 Gonzvlo: veo 2 alternativas https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9543725 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9543730
03:19 mancuso_JM_: me quedo con la segunda, porque no tener un combo en una parte que la cancion hace como un "stop" es raro xD
03:20 Gonzvlo: 01:07:106 (3) - Aca es más o menos la situación anterior, a veces sigues exclusivamente la guitarra y otras no
03:20 Gonzvlo: 01:06:964 - creo que es mejor agregar la nota acá, para mejora la fluidez y eso
03:21 Gonzvlo: O no....
03:21 Gonzvlo: Espera
03:21 mancuso_JM_: hmm..
03:22 Gonzvlo: Nope no ayuda mucho
03:22 Gonzvlo: Lo ideal sería que hagas caer ese sonido en un repeat como lo has hecho antes 01:03:568 -
03:22 Gonzvlo: Al momento de jugar es más natural
03:23 mancuso_JM_: lo que pasa que en esta parte hice tipo un "mix" entre voz y guitarra
03:23 mancuso_JM_: 01:03:568 (1) - solo guitarra
03:23 Gonzvlo: aham
03:23 mancuso_JM_: 01:06:257 (2,3) - termina la voz en (2) sigo con la guitarra en (3)
03:26 mancuso_JM_: el internet te esta matando jaja
03:26 Gonzvlo: Pero es que solo es con el osu! no se que onda
03:26 Gonzvlo: Pero si entendiste lo que queria decir?
03:27 mancuso_JM_: no se si me llego lo ultimo jajaj xD
03:27 Gonzvlo: Decía que el paso de 1/2 a 1/4 no está tan fluido como lo construiste en otras partes
03:27 Gonzvlo: Por ejemplo cuando usaste repeats para hacer ese cambio
03:29 Gonzvlo: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9543757
03:29 Gonzvlo: Algo así estaría mejor. (los objetos en la línea de tiempo)
03:30 mancuso_JM_: no se si te llego lo ultimo que te habia escrito sobre (2,3) -
03:30 Gonzvlo: Creo que no :c
03:30 mancuso_JM_: la verdad no suena mal lo que me decis, pero el tema es que no hace el stop de la voz y el comienzo de cuando aparece solo la guitarra
03:31 mancuso_JM_: lo que puse fue
03:31 mancuso_JM_: 01:03:568 (1) - solo guitarra
03:31 mancuso_JM_: 01:06:257 (2,3) - intento seguir con (2) la seccion larga de la voz y cuando esta termina comenzar con un slider unico para seguir solo la guitarra
03:32 Gonzvlo: Aham eso está okay
03:32 Gonzvlo: http://prntscr.com/han5sm
03:32 Gonzvlo: Lo que digo es sobre como haces esa transición entre ritmos
03:33 Gonzvlo: en ese está okay, mantienes 1/2 a 1/2, hay basicamente un beat en medio
03:34 Gonzvlo: http://prntscr.com/han66t
03:34 Gonzvlo: En el otro caso pasa de 1/2 a 1/4 con 2 objetos distintos
03:35 mancuso_JM_: es que mi idea era hacer eso, pero creo que es la unica parte de la cancion donde Adam me cambio los papeles jaja
03:35 Gonzvlo: quién es adam
03:35 Gonzvlo: lol
03:35 Gonzvlo: Oh lol, el de owl city
03:35 mancuso_JM_: mira en 02:36:831 (2,3) - hice lo mismo por esta cancion
03:35 mancuso_JM_: D:
03:35 mancuso_JM_: no puedo creer que no sabias eso jajaja
03:36 mancuso_JM_: ademas como el map es tan lento y esta todo calculado con el distance snap
03:36 Gonzvlo: Hmm, okay entiendo
03:36 Gonzvlo: Sí sí, nadie va a hacer miss en eso
03:36 mancuso_JM_: no he tenido mayores problemas con esos patrones :c
03:36 mancuso_JM_: (incluso yo con mi mouse penoso con DT lo juego bien xD)
03:37 Gonzvlo: Solo me parece que de la otra forma fluye más, pero buenp
03:37 Gonzvlo: Hmm en esa caso si estás cambiando los ritmos a propósito, tal vez sea mejor cambiar los combos?
03:37 Gonzvlo: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9543782
03:38 Gonzvlo: Digo, para hacer notar esa intención
03:38 Gonzvlo: No estoy seguro, pruebalo y mira si está mejor o no
03:38 mancuso_JM_: estaba haciendo eso xD
03:38 Gonzvlo: E.e
03:39 mancuso_JM_: lo cambie en ambas partes
03:39 Gonzvlo: Vale
03:39 Gonzvlo: 01:57:912 (1) -
03:39 Gonzvlo: Como odiaba esos stacks entre combos :3 :3 :3
03:39 mancuso_JM_: jajaja xD
03:40 Gonzvlo: No recuerdo quien decía, si son 2 combos diferentes por qué los pondría en stack
03:40 Gonzvlo: Bueno, esa es una parte donde podría cambiarlo facilmente, si quisieras
03:40 Gonzvlo: lol :3
03:40 *Gonzvlo corre*
03:40 Gonzvlo: (osea quitar el stack de 1(
03:40 Gonzvlo: )
03:41 mancuso_JM_: manual stack (?)
03:41 *mancuso_JM_ se esconde*
03:41 Gonzvlo: Lol
03:41 Gonzvlo: 02:14:895 (3) - aca me parece mejor NC
03:42 mancuso_JM_: kkkk
03:45 Gonzvlo: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9543793
03:45 Gonzvlo: 03:01:315 -
03:45 Gonzvlo: Hmmmmmm ese espacio, no sé
03:45 Gonzvlo: Al jugar no hay mucho problema creo yo
03:45 Gonzvlo: Pero hmm no sé
03:46 mancuso_JM_: no esta igual a los otros? :ooo
03:46 Gonzvlo: Me refiero a como los objetos tienen el mismo espacio pero tienen distancia distinta en el timeline
03:46 Gonzvlo: El (4) con el (1) y el (1) con el (2)
03:47 mancuso_JM_: ahhh
03:47 Gonzvlo: Mi sugerencia es cambiar el pattern de 03:01:315 - tal vez utilizar un repeat, para evitar tener eso
03:47 Gonzvlo: http://prntscr.com/hana0d
03:47 Gonzvlo: pero aún así, no creo que es algo obligatorio
03:48 Gonzvlo: Al momento de jugar el cambió en el AR permite leer sin problema, imo
03:48 Gonzvlo: Depende de ti
03:49 mancuso_JM_: un stack normal entre (4,1) ?
03:50 mancuso_JM_: el ritmo no lo cambio asi mantengo consistencia en ese aspecto (parece que queria ser consistente cuando hice este map xD)
03:50 Gonzvlo: Hmm a mi me gustó ese juego con el spacing que hiciste en esa parte
03:50 Gonzvlo: hay otra opción?
03:50 Gonzvlo: no sé si seria bueno quitarlo entre (4) (1)
03:51 Gonzvlo: Tal vez separa el (4) del (1), quita el stack por completo
03:52 Gonzvlo: 03:00:182 - en esta parte podrías poner unos pequeños jumps
03:52 Gonzvlo: para el último coro de la canción ?
03:53 Gonzvlo: Y en ese caso, ya pones el stack con el (4), pq ya cambiaste el spacing
03:53 mancuso_JM_: voy a actualizar antes de hacer cualquier cambio y me fijo bien xD
03:53 Gonzvlo: vale
03:56 Gonzvlo: (normal)
03:57 Gonzvlo: Los combos del comienzo están malos xd, aquí la sugerencia: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9543819 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9543821
03:58 Gonzvlo: 01:41:779 (3) - Overlap ;_;
03:58 Gonzvlo: 03:02:164 (2) - que feo ;_;
03:59 Gonzvlo: 03:20:279 (2) - why
03:59 Gonzvlo: 03:22:260 (2) - bonito
03:59 Gonzvlo: 03:26:789 (2) - por qué mejor no un flip vertical del slider anterior?
03:59 Gonzvlo: Nada más :v
04:00 mancuso_JM_: lol
04:00 mancuso_JM_: ya voy
04:00 Gonzvlo: dónde
04:01 mancuso_JM_: los combos del principio están
04:02 Gonzvlo: 01:42:062 (2) - bonito blanket :3 (easy)
04:04 Gonzvlo: (easy)
04:04 Gonzvlo: 02:56:786 (4) - NC
04:04 Gonzvlo: 02:59:050 (1) - Remove NC
04:05 Gonzvlo: 03:19:430 (1) - Entiendo lo que quisiste hacer aqui pero no sé si queda muy bien (Combo), rompe un poco con la consistencia de los combos largos (7-8 ticks blancos) que tienes en toda la diff
04:06 Gonzvlo: Hmm creo que es eso, no encuentro más cosas para hacer nazi :3
04:07 Gonzvlo: El metadata no lo reviso pq ya estoy grande para eso (?)
04:07 Gonzvlo: https://pastebin.com/TPxxUVd2 <- Los colores que sugiero
04:08 Gonzvlo: El numero 5 es un dorado que podrías usar solo en los coros o en las partes especiales, pero daría trabajo cambiar todos los combos lol
04:09 mancuso_JM_: no me deja entrar por ahora xDD
04:09 mancuso_JM_: lo del metadata esta en el BG y estuve indagando por ahi y creo que eso esta bien
04:10 Gonzvlo: Entrar a donde?
04:10 Gonzvlo: Qué metadata :v?
04:10 mancuso_JM_: a los colores de combo :c
04:11 Gonzvlo: http://pasted.co/edeefbea
04:12 Gonzvlo: Bueno ya puedes pedir que te rankeen el mapa tiene mi sello de aprobación (?
04:12 mancuso_JM_: mejor asi c:
04:12 mancuso_JM_: lol
04:13 mancuso_JM_: postea en el foro c:
04:13 mancuso_JM_: yo estoy arreglando unas cosas en la Normal todavia xDD
04:13 Gonzvlo: que posteo?
04:14 mancuso_JM_: hace un savelog o lo que quieras
04:14 mancuso_JM_: o irc mod xD


Some changes in Easy/Normal/Hard and we also changed Combo Colours hehe 8-)
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o/ It's fucking November yet for xmas

En general en temas de ritmo 11/10, así que mi mod se basará en su mayoría de blankets y/o spacing, nada del otro mundo ni nada que no se pueda arreglar en menos de 1 segundo.

General
  1. Yo creo que deberías ponerle un nombre bonito a la Hard, se ve aburrido que desperdicies la oportunidad de poner un nombre creativo para estas fiestas.


Hard
  1. No me gusta ser nazi pero yo encuentro que un blanket acá 00:31:301 (5,2) - no se vería mal en lo absoluto.
  2. 01:04:841 - Coloca una nota acá, ya que por consistencia con los patrones de guitarra como este 01:05:832 (4,5) -
    uwu
  3. 01:19:843 (2) - *Nazi: mueve este slider unos grids a la izquiera para que esté bien overlapped con la colita (1)
  4. 01:27:060 (2) - *Nazi: muévelo unos grids a x432 y164 para que haga un círculo perfecto.
  5. 01:56:497 (4,5,6) - dale un poco más de cariño a este patrón que se ve tan simple. Mi sugerencia: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9556172


La easy y la normal están super geniales, no veo nada que sea inrankeable o cuestionable por ahora. Mucha suerte ;)
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Cloudchaser wrote:

o/ It's fucking November yet for xmas

En general en temas de ritmo 11/10, así que mi mod se basará en su mayoría de blankets y/o spacing, nada del otro mundo ni nada que no se pueda arreglar en menos de 1 segundo. o/

General
  1. Yo creo que deberías ponerle un nombre bonito a la Hard, se ve aburrido que desperdicies la oportunidad de poner un nombre creativo para estas fiestas. Hmm.. por el momento paso. Tener 7 dificultades y una sola con "custom name" es algo raro y generalmente en taiko siempre se usan los nombres clasicos, asi que prefiero dejarlo por el momento (al menos que se me ocurra algo durante el proceso)


Hard
  1. No me gusta ser nazi pero yo encuentro que un blanket acá 00:31:301 (5,2) - no se vería mal en lo absoluto. Meh.. Intenté cambiarlo pero me resulta algo menor y casi impredescible durante el juego, así que lo dejo como está. Me gusta la construcción del patrón aunque no sea un blanket perfecto.
  2. 01:04:841 - Coloca una nota acá, ya que por consistencia con los patrones de guitarra como este 01:05:832 (4,5) -
    uwu No la siento realmente necesaria, intente bastantes alternativas pero ninguna me convenció :/, además lo que sigo en 01:05:832 (4,5) es la voz. De todos modos me di cuenta que en 01:04:983 (2) - debía ir un Finish (Drum) por consistencia con 02:35:558 (2) - xD
  3. 01:19:843 (2) - *Nazi: mueve este slider unos grids a la izquiera para que esté bien overlapped con la colita (1) Seguro c:
  4. 01:27:060 (2) - *Nazi: muévelo unos grids a x432 y164 para que haga un círculo perfecto. Listo.
  5. 01:56:497 (4,5,6) - dale un poco más de cariño a este patrón que se ve tan simple. Mi sugerencia: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9556172 Bueno.. sos la segunda que me critica este patrón xD. Le di un poco más de "sabor" jeje.


La easy y la normal están super geniales, no veo nada que sea inrankeable o cuestionable por ahora. Mucha suerte ;)
Muchas Gracias Cloud! :D
Todo listo y actualizado.
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if I am not awfully lazy, I will take care for the Taiko set.
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Stefan wrote:

if I am not awfully lazy, I will take care for the Taiko set.
I hope you'll not awfully lazy then haha :P
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una diff mas y posteo toda la biblia que tengo (ni tanto) XD!!

Christmas Queue (1 / ?)


General:

Don = d
Kat = k
Big Don = D
Big Kat = K


> el spread es bueno, pero tengo dudas sobre esta parte -> https://puu.sh/yAluK.jpg

> en algunas sugerencias tal vez si se llegue a romper la consistencia con el uso de notas grandes, pero la verdad no tiene muchos énfasis para tal cosa.


Kantan

  • 01:19:984 - hace falta ponerle densidad al kiai, una nota aquí sería bueno.
    01:29:042 - lo mismo acá
    01:39:099 - lo mismo
    01:47:179 - igual.

    02:39:803 - esta nota me parece sobrada, al borrarla se nota que es mejor repetir lo que hiciste con las 2 notas anteriores.

    03:08:674 - lo mismo que puse desde 01:19:984- y sus respectivos tiempos.
Futsuu

  • 00:29:602 - me parece mas pertinente el repetir la secuencia cambiando esto a d, ya la siguiente pues enfoca el cambio de sonido y el vocal alto.

    00:40:924 (75,76,77,78,79,80) - comparandolo al punto anterior, acá tiene incluso un poco mas de intensidad las vocales y el de fondo, podrías cambiar esto a kdk (para una diferencia) y kkk (para el vocal) y ya las siguiente que son dd ya suena mas priorizadas con los sonidos de golpe que tiene.

    01:09:229 (136,137,138) - estas podrían ser kkk, tienen un tono bajo de vocal eco y ademas un cierto desvarie para enfatizar las siguientes 4 notas.

    01:19:418 (157,158,159,160,161,162) - esta parte podría ser dkd kdk para hacer un tipo de mirror al vocal (lo mismo en el siguiente kiai time)
    01:28:476 (177,178,179,180,181) - algo similar aquí pero es preferible que sea ddk kdk para diferenciarla un poco.

    01:37:533 (196,197,198,199,200) - lo mismo que 01:19:418-

    01:47:723 (217,218) - solo para completar la consistencia de los puntos acá arriba sería de remover el finish en la 1ra nota y agregar una d enmedio de esas 2 notas.

    03:03:579 (365,366,367,368,369,370) - estas en ddd kkk, precisamente por la sugerencia de 01:19:418-
    03:12:636 (385,386,387,388,389,390) - kkk ddd, para hacer mirror.
Muzukashii

  • 00:27:055 (51,52,53) - posiblemente deba ser kkd, los sonidos de golpe se opacan con las ddd.

    00:48:566 (124,125,126,132,133,134) - me parece que ese par de triples están invertidos, que sea primero kkk y luego ddd.
    00:57:624 (155,156,157,163,164,165) - lo mismo en estos.

    01:01:020 (168,169) - toca borrar estas notas por que al parecer está un poco larga esta secuencia (aun siendo relativamente fácil hay que dejar espacios para los exigentes del break).

    01:41:779 - a borrar esta nota por ser otra secuencia larga (o reajustar todo esta parte y tenga al menos un descanso).
    01:46:308 - similar, pero mas que nada para enfatizar el cambio.

    02:37:256 - otra para borrar, que esta tambien está algo larga.
Oni

  • 00:24:649 (55,56) - es extraño pero me parece bueno si haces swap en estas 2 notas, mas que nada como una variación.

    00:44:321 - esta nota podría ser k enfocandola en el vocal, empieza y teniendo una roja pareciera que desentona.

    01:18:145 - k?, está algo opacado el sonido alto con roja.

    01:54:233 (444,445) - este par debe ser kd para enfatizar el tono vocal como lo has hecho en todo lo anterior a este punto, ya en 01:56:497 (452,453) - si es dd por que no tiene vocal.

    02:49:993 (665,666,667,668,669,670,671) - no sería mejor seguir los tonos evidentes de vocal como kdkdkkk ?

    03:18:014 - sería de cambiarla a k para darle mas enfasis a los sonidos altos, ademas de una variación con el kiai anterior.

    03:35:988 (854,855) - ya contrario al punto anterior acá sería dd por que ya va de Fade-Out.
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xtrem3x wrote:

una diff mas y posteo toda la biblia que tengo (ni tanto) XD!!

Christmas Queue (1 / ?)


General:

Don = d
Kat = k
Big Don = D
Big Kat = K


> el spread es bueno, pero tengo dudas sobre esta parte -> https://puu.sh/yAluK.jpg De todas maneras no hay mucho para hacer, no me parece agregar más notas en el Futsuu porque lo que quiero enfatizar ya es suficiente con los finishers. Además por una pequeña sección no es que me vaya afectar todo el spread, en mi opinión veo todo bastante consistente en el tema de la progresión.

> en algunas sugerencias tal vez si se llegue a romper la consistencia con el uso de notas grandes, pero la verdad no tiene muchos énfasis para tal cosa. okie dokie. Veamos.


Kantan

  • 01:19:984 - hace falta ponerle densidad al kiai, una nota aquí sería bueno.
    01:29:042 - lo mismo acá
    01:39:099 - lo mismo
    01:47:179 - igual. No cambio ninguno de estos porque lo que estoy siguiendo son los sonidos que aparecen en el background, estilo campanas que se sienten bien enfatizado con los finishers que utilice, seguir otro tono en la canción en esas secciones me parece extraño.

    02:39:803 - esta nota me parece sobrada, al borrarla se nota que es mejor repetir lo que hiciste con las 2 notas anteriores. No la eliminé porque se siente un vacío demasiado grande, cuando la música aún sigue su curso, pero si la moví a 02:39:237 - , con tu sugerencia me pude dar cuenta que ahí sigue algo mejor la canción.

    03:08:674 - lo mismo que puse desde 01:19:984- y sus respectivos tiempos. Misma.
Futsuu

  • 00:29:602 - me parece mas pertinente el repetir la secuencia cambiando esto a d, ya la siguiente pues enfoca el cambio de sonido y el vocal alto. Estoy un 50/50, no porque el sonido esté mal porque en ese punto tienes toda la razón, sino por la repetición de los patrones. Pero bueno, siguiendo la primer lógica decidí cambiarlo.

    00:40:924 (75,76,77,78,79,80) - comparandolo al punto anterior, acá tiene incluso un poco mas de intensidad las vocales y el de fondo, podrías cambiar esto a kdk (para una diferencia) y kkk (para el vocal) y ya las siguiente que son dd ya suena mas priorizadas con los sonidos de golpe que tiene. Tiene sentido. Hecho.

    01:09:229 (136,137,138) - estas podrían ser kkk, tienen un tono bajo de vocal eco y ademas un cierto desvarie para enfatizar las siguientes 4 notas. El tono es bastante mas grave que las otras dos notas en (137), por tal motivo siento que el "d" es más necesario para remarcar eso.

    01:19:418 (157,158,159,160,161,162) - esta parte podría ser dkd kdk para hacer un tipo de mirror al vocal (lo mismo en el siguiente kiai time)
    01:28:476 (177,178,179,180,181) - algo similar aquí pero es preferible que sea ddk kdk para diferenciarla un poco.

    01:37:533 (196,197,198,199,200) - lo mismo que 01:19:418-

    01:47:723 (217,218) - solo para completar la consistencia de los puntos acá arriba sería de remover el finish en la 1ra nota y agregar una d enmedio de esas 2 notas.
    03:03:579 (365,366,367,368,369,370) - estas en ddd kkk, precisamente por la sugerencia de 01:19:418-
    03:12:636 (385,386,387,388,389,390) - kkk ddd, para hacer mirror. Hice algunos cambios por aquí y por allá pero no demasiados basicamente porque no quiero todos los patrones iguales. Este tipo de canciones son tan ricas en tema de ritmo, que hacer todas las partes iguales es aburrirla un poco, cuando puedes jugar algo más con eso. Pero eso sí, los que son todos iguales ahora son los "Christmas Time", son todos kdk ahora.
Muzukashii

  • 00:27:055 (51,52,53) - posiblemente deba ser kkd, los sonidos de golpe se opacan con las ddd. Todos mis 3-plets son de un color solo, no me parece del todo bien romper la consistencia ahi.

    00:48:566 (124,125,126,132,133,134) - me parece que ese par de triples están invertidos, que sea primero kkk y luego ddd. Totalmente de acuerdo con esto.
    00:57:624 (155,156,157,163,164,165) - lo mismo en estos. (^)

    01:01:020 (168,169) - toca borrar estas notas por que al parecer está un poco larga esta secuencia (aun siendo relativamente fácil hay que dejar espacios para los exigentes del break). Hicimos un pequeño reajuste.

    01:41:779 - a borrar esta nota por ser otra secuencia larga (o reajustar todo esta parte y tenga al menos un descanso). La borré, no me parece tan necesaria.
    01:46:308 - similar, pero mas que nada para enfatizar el cambio. Eliminada y agregado un finisher en la siguiente nota (más énfasis hehe)

    02:37:256 - otra para borrar, que esta tambien está algo larga. Hicimos un pequeño retoque ahi tambien.
Oni

  • 00:24:649 (55,56) - es extraño pero me parece bueno si haces swap en estas 2 notas, mas que nada como una variación. El tono de la voz es basicamente el mismo, no tiene demasiado que sean diferentes tampoco.

    00:44:321 - esta nota podría ser k enfocandola en el vocal, empieza y teniendo una roja pareciera que desentona. Es cierto

    01:18:145 - k?, está algo opacado el sonido alto con roja. Lo que estoy siguiendo es un sonido que aparece en el background, es dificil explicarlo escribiendo pero funciona mejor como don por ese sonido en particular.

    01:54:233 (444,445) - este par debe ser kd para enfatizar el tono vocal como lo has hecho en todo lo anterior a este punto, ya en 01:56:497 (452,453) - si es dd por que no tiene vocal. Siguiendo la respuesta anterior, ahora ambos son dd kd.

    02:49:993 (665,666,667,668,669,670,671) - no sería mejor seguir los tonos evidentes de vocal como kdkdkkk ? Nice catch c:

    03:18:014 - sería de cambiarla a k para darle mas enfasis a los sonidos altos, ademas de una variación con el kiai anterior. Personalmente, nunca fui un amante de los kdkdk/dkdkd. Además de esto, prefiero enfatizar mucho más el "Christmas Time" que el resto, por eso es kdk al final y está nota en particular no lo tiene.

    03:35:988 (854,855) - ya contrario al punto anterior acá sería dd por que ya va de Fade-Out. Ahora el patrón es dd kdk siguiendo la misma lógica que es enfatizar el "Christmas Time en estas secciones.
Muchas Gracias por tu mod :D !
Ayudo bastante a corregir algunas cositas (principalmente en el Muzu)
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[General]
before 00:45:453 - I would suggest using a slightly lower volume since 45% sounds a bit too loud, consider using 35~40%.

[Oni]
Is HP7 really necessary? for 860 objects this looks quite brutal imo, nerf it down to 5. Additionally, you could buff the OD, having Oni and Muzukashii the same OD is silly.

00:08:657 (15) - the tone at this note isn't high and differen to the case of 00:03:845 (5,6,7) - . Having both ddk looks silly, and be should be changed to ddd.
00:21:394 (46) - why would you suddenly use kk here? Unless there is a reason behind, stick with kd instead.
00:25:640 - 00:27:338 - What about a smoother SV transistion? check out the screenshot: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/grh0xn1T.png
00:33:706 - I actually would put a don note here to emphasize the first part of the "hand" spelling. but uh, up to you.
01:15:739 (274) - kat preferably? to follow the vocals that have the main focus for the kiai(s).
01:24:796 (313) - ^
01:33:712 (349,350) - purely from the flow I would suggest kd but sound-wise dk would be a rather logical decision. Either way, both options are better than kk. x:
01:47:440 (413) - Would keep it consistent with 01:38:241 (371,372) - , having them inconsistent although they mapped almost identical is a weird decision.
02:05:696 (485) - should consider a removal since for the BPM it feels really odd to play longer combos, especially when the song doesn't urgently call for it.
02:14:895 (526,527) - Hmm, the finisher doesn't look senseful to me. First because you didn't have them on 00:44:321 (133,135) - and second because there isn't much that is worth to strengthen. Also, consider adding a note on 02:15:178 - too.
02:59:050 - the SV boost should start from 03:00:182 - , not before.

[Muzukashii]
Nerf the OD to 4.5 or buff Oni (see above).
Kiai - a lot of emphasis gets lost due the very stiff mapping:
01:15:880 (221,222) - imo the vocals could be emphasized instead of the somewhat weak guitar beats in the background, would remove them.
01:24:938 (252,253) - ^
01:19:701 (234,235) - could be changed to https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/IRb8lAqv.png
01:28:759 (265,266) - ^

similar content applies for the 2nd kiai as well.

[Futsuu]
00:04:128 (5) - should be kat and..
00:08:657 (11,13) - should be don. the 2nd time it is slightly deeper where you should not emphasize 00:08:657 (11,13) - with kat notes but don instead. 00:04:128 (5) - on the other hand is rather light and works imo better with kat. plus it has some nice mirroring.
00:18:280 - 00:20:545 - this doesn't follow much here. Turn it to k d kdk k so the vocals are more determined and less "random".
00:34:131 (63,64,65) - The finisher notes overemphasize the song here and they don't really fit here, suggesting to remove them.
00:49:982 (96,101) - ^
01:19:418 (157) - I really don't find Dd pattern for lower difficulties good. I understand it can be used to emphasize the part of 01:19:418 - 01:21:117 - a bit more, yet it is in the gameplay pretty inconvinient to tap a finisher and then a normal note afterwards on 1/2.

Something that displeased me in the Futsuu difficulty is the strange finisher structure compared to Oni or Muzukashii. Many of them doesn't look that important imo and feels misplaced for an actually soft song, it is not calm per se but imo too soft as using many finisher to emphasize. Either consider to re-do that part or try to get more opinions for that case if you rather disagree on that point.

[Kantan]
Nerf OD to 3~3.5.


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Stefan wrote:

[General]
before 00:45:453 - I would suggest using a slightly lower volume since 45% sounds a bit too loud, consider using 35~40%. I don't think anything lower would work better here, especially because drums are acting and comparing it with other sections it sounds good to me. I prefer to keep this volume, anything lower will make this section a bit too quite for my ears at least.

[Oni]
Is HP7 really necessary? for 860 objects this looks quite brutal imo, nerf it down to 5. Additionally, you could buff the OD, having Oni and Muzukashii the same OD is silly. About HP I don't think this is difficulty, if you play it without any mod, this is pretty simple in general and it's an Oni difficulty after all. I don't think you'll have any problem at passing this difficulty if you have some experience. About OD, I'll nerf it in Muzu.

00:08:657 (15) - the tone at this note isn't high and differen to the case of 00:03:845 (5,6,7) - . Having both ddk looks silly, and be should be changed to ddd. Makes sense. Changed.
00:21:394 (46) - why would you suddenly use kk here? Unless there is a reason behind, stick with kd instead. In my personal point of view this "And I" sounds higher than "Cause you're" , that's why I decided to use "kk" here instead of "kd".
00:25:640 - 00:27:338 - What about a smoother SV transistion? check out the screenshot: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/grh0xn1T.png Sure.. Why not?
00:33:706 - I actually would put a don note here to emphasize the first part of the "hand" spelling. but uh, up to you. I don't like how it sounds :/, I'm generally careful with the usage of kdkdk/dkdkd and I don't think this is the best place to apply it.
01:15:739 (274) - kat preferably? to follow the vocals that have the main focus for the kiai(s).
01:24:796 (313) - ^ Applied both of them.
01:33:712 (349,350) - purely from the flow I would suggest kd but sound-wise dk would be a rather logical decision. Either way, both options are better than kk. x: I prefer to go with dk here, kd flows better but it sounds wrong to me.
01:47:440 (413) - Would keep it consistent with 01:38:241 (371,372) - , having them inconsistent although they mapped almost identical is a weird decision. dk kk for sure.
02:05:696 (485) - should consider a removal since for the BPM it feels really odd to play longer combos, especially when the song doesn't urgently call for it.I prefered to follow the music as close as I can, basically because this is the hardest difficulty in the set and this note makes sense with the music.
02:14:895 (526,527) - Hmm, the finisher doesn't look senseful to me. First because you didn't have them on 00:44:321 (133,135) - and second because there isn't much that is worth to strengthen. Also, consider adding a note on 02:15:178 - too. I decided to make this consistent with 00:44:321 (133,134,135,136) - so, I used k d k x D instead.
02:59:050 - the SV boost should start from 03:00:182 - , not before. Makes sense.

[Muzukashii]
Nerf the OD to 4.5 or buff Oni (see above). Nerf'd here.
Kiai - a lot of emphasis gets lost due the very stiff mapping:
01:15:880 (221,222) - imo the vocals could be emphasized instead of the somewhat weak guitar beats in the background, would remove them.
01:24:938 (252,253) - ^
01:19:701 (234,235) - could be changed to https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/IRb8lAqv.png
01:28:759 (265,266) - ^ I personally don't agree with all of them, basically because I'm not following only vocals here, I'm trying to follow everything in the song. I don't think those vocals are really necessary to be emphasized because they're not as important as "Kiss me babe, it's christmas time" phrases or similar ones, so I found it more interesting by adding some extra notes following both drums and guitar. I already used a lot finishers following the phrase I mentioned before, and I don't find it really interesting during the gameplay if I add more finishers and I don't have more notes to tap. I hope you can understand my point of view here.

similar content applies for the 2nd kiai as well.

[Futsuu]
00:04:128 (5) - should be kat and..
00:08:657 (11,13) - should be don. the 2nd time it is slightly deeper where you should not emphasize 00:08:657 (11,13) - with kat notes but don instead. 00:04:128 (5) - on the other hand is rather light and works imo better with kat. plus it has some nice mirroring. I've to say I do completely agree with you about these, so fixed all this things.
00:18:280 - 00:20:545 - this doesn't follow much here. Turn it to k d kdk k so the vocals are more determined and less "random". Sure thing, it sounds much better.
00:34:131 (63,64,65) - The finisher notes overemphasize the song here and they don't really fit here, suggesting to remove them.
00:49:982 (96,101) - ^ Removed all of them, my idea was to emphasize a bit more all these places where I had more notes in Muzu/Oni, but they don't play/sound as cool as I supposed, and since you mentioned that I think it's mandatory to change that.
01:19:418 (157) - I really don't find Dd pattern for lower difficulties good. I understand it can be used to emphasize the part of 01:19:418 - 01:21:117 - a bit more, yet it is in the gameplay pretty inconvinient to tap a finisher and then a normal note afterwards on 1/2. Agree with you.

Something that displeased me in the Futsuu difficulty is the strange finisher structure compared to Oni or Muzukashii. Many of them doesn't look that important imo and feels misplaced for an actually soft song, it is not calm per se but imo too soft as using many finisher to emphasize. Either consider to re-do that part or try to get more opinions for that case if you rather disagree on that point. I have to say I agree with you in all your thoughts. I reduced considerably the number of finishers in the difficulty (especially in both kiai sections), following your suggestions and using some "extra" logic, so I could keep them consistent too. Thanks a lot for mention them.

[Kantan]
Nerf OD to 3~3.5. Used 3.5


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Thanks a lot for your help Stefan! :D
Everything updated!
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Really want this ranked by christmas, really fun map in my opinion. Also this:



I want to punch myself in the face for my terrible accuracy on such an easy map, but that's the best I could do, I guess...

Seriously, really wanna see this ranked, I'm shooting all my unused kudosu at you. :3

Really quickly,
(Hard)
00:43:755 (3) - Hitsound seems strange, as in very quiet, and a bit unfitting.
I think it should have the hitsound you hear on this note: 00:41:490 (2)
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