Mili - Utopiosphere -Platonism- [CatchTheBeat] · forum

Tyrell

Joined July 2014

Tyrell 2017-02-27T23:22:02+00:00

Negri_sk wrote:
[Tyrell's Utopia]
00:15:911 (5) - NC okie
00:21:366 (5) - ^ okie
01:08:752 (4) - ^ did NC after this note but changed
01:21:536 (6) - ^ NC would be inconsistent
01:37:729 (5) - ^ okie
01:55:456 (5) - ^ dont think an NC fits here

F D Flourite wrote:
[Tyrell's Utopia]
00:01:082 (4,5) - this distance doesn't seem to be for walk (tho it is walkable, it doesn't read as so, and it isn't as easy as others). But most similar parts do (except for the last one being the intro to the next section): 00:02:445 (4,5) - 00:06:536 (4,5) - 00:05:173 (4,5) - , etc. So you may nerf this distance to about 1.3~1.4x or even lower. redone this whole intro section to be more obvious with walking and dashing
00:11:650 (2) - I would say the previous and next distance are both ambiguous. 00:11:139 (1,2) -, 1.33x distance, is completely walkable. While 00:11:650 (2,3) - , 1.34x distance, is difficult to walk at this level (of Rain). They share almost the same distance (including visually) but play quite different, which is confusing. So I'd like to recommend you move 00:11:650 (2) - to x280. Because you can do emphasis on both jumps, as you do in following patterns. redid this section and it is more obvious what is a walk and what is a dash since the dashes arent walkable anymore
00:29:889 (4,1) - this hyperdash can be removed, as it is the only one appearing in this section, making it kinda sudden. Besides, starting a new section is not a nice reason for me, because you are following vocal here, while vocal here is not emphasized in the music. okie
00:38:752 (3,4) - this jump makes me wonder why. You are following vocal, while the emphasized vocal is on 00:39:264 - instead of 00:39:434 - . So you should probably change your way of jump to set your emphasis correctly. on this part i am following the chimes as well as the vocals, the chime and vocal are emphasized by the pattern i used
00:42:161 (3,4) - same. These two sounds are the transistion ones, having weaker tense and emotion. A jump appearing in the middle doesn't feel good. The following two vocal sounds 00:42:502 (1,2) - are emphasized, tho. You should remove this jump and adjust the following patterns. i changed this to follow a more simple pattern thatemphasizes the main vocal point
01:08:752 (4,5) - why this jump smaller than 01:07:730 (2,3) - this one? I think the vocal pitch feels rising in this part, so increasing the jump distance would work better for me. i made the jump slightly easier to the downbeat to make up for the harder slider shape to follow, i think it fits
01:13:866 (1) - you may move this more rightward. Because I feel 01:13:866 - should be emphasized. The current distance on 01:13:525 (4,1) - is just similar 01:12:502 (3,4) - during gameplay, which cannot express the emphasis properly. increased the distance a bit
01:50:002 (3,4,5,6) - Move them more leftward for 8 pixels. Because the current distance on 01:49:832 (2,3) - and 01:50:514 (6,1) - are too ambiguous. Making them slightly larger will benefit the reading experience. okie
01:42:502 (1) - This slider plays terrible around the part of its third slider tick. The sudden moving back (it does appear like this during gameplay, you can testplay it for several times) is quite unexpectable. I strongly suggest you change the slider shape. i see your complaint but i really like the gimmicky slider here, i made the patterns to and from this easier to make this play better. ;w;
01:37:559 (4,5) - I feel like making this jump a hyperdash. Because it can be a split of the transition part into two parts: one ends the previous section, one starts the following section.i dont think a hyper fits here. i like this better as a regular dash.

Thanks for the mods.

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Nokashi

304 posts

Joined December 2014

Nokashi 2017-03-11T19:27:58+00:00

As Requested by Benny-

[

General]

Looking Good!

[

Nelly's Cup]

00:02:957 (1) - Having a sudden 2/1 reverse on a rhythm you previously followed with 1/1 sliders doesnt reflect the music that well, especially since there is a beat here 00:03:298 - so a 1/1 reverse instead of a 2/1 reverse would work better. I Would recommend a similar rhythm with previous measures for the added pattern consistency, like this
00:08:752 - again having such a gap in rhythm here doesn't reflect the music well, even though it is a cup you could make more of this measure, especially 00:08:752 - this beat
00:10:116 - I Would make a seperate slider starting from here and making 00:09:775 - a circle instead to emphasize the ringing sounds, like you did last measure
00:12:161 (2,3) - This pattern isnt consistent with the following pattern that express the same sound in my opinion and feels rather disconnected. Try something like this instead. This rhythm suggestion will ensure zero gaps in rhythm in this section
00:37:048 (2) - ctrlg and moving to somewhere like x:301|y:110 can improve the transition to the next object
00:50:684 (1) - move to somewhere like x:180|y:286
00:50:684 (1,2,1) - To avoid ambiguity on whether to dash on not, i would make the spacing on these objects more consistent. For reference 00:52:389 (2) - this circle has a ~1.70 DS with previous object and ~1.10 DS with next object, which isnt so consistent. I Would move to somewhere along the lines of x:158|y:290
00:54:775 (1) - maybe something like this will compliment the music better rather than a 3/1 slider since 00:55:797 - this will be emphasized better
00:58:866 (1) - I Wouldnt make this curve so sharp since the droplets dont convert that neat, smooth it out like this this
01:38:070 (3) - I Would move to somewhere like x:290|y:127 so it flows better
01:46:593 (1) - I Feel like such a sudden horizontal slider doesnt compliment the song well, maybe give it some curve?

[

Salad]

00:02:275 (2,3,4) - While playing the distance between these circles is inconsistent even though its the same sounds that are being expressed. Thus, it feels off to follow and the last 2 circles dont exactly provide the correct movement. Maybe try something like this there isnt such a problem spacing wise since the next object is on the downbeat
00:05:855 (2,3) - I Would reduce this spacing a bit, since it might come across as sudden when playing, especially when you are new player. Having a relatively similar distance with 00:06:877 (5,1) - will do the trick nicely
00:07:900 (3,4) - I Would expect some more movement between these objects, incorporating some movement between these 2 objects will compliment the song quite nicely . Maybe put the 4 on the same x axis as the 2, and readjust the 3 position accordingly
00:20:343 (3,4) - Try giving this 1.80x DS distancing instead, like you did here 00:18:980 (4,1) - , To be consistent
00:25:968 (4,1) - You could space those out a bit more seems really cluttered and the song could support more movement here since the vocal are a bit "jumpy" you can say
00:34:661 (2,3,4,5) - Here as well, the vocal can allow more movement than the one you gave it. Just a suggestion this time cause i dont want to intervene too much to how you do this but trying these placements will surely make it play better
00:48:298 (3) - Reduce this spacing, or increase this 00:50:002 (2,1) - spacing to be more consistent, since the emphasis given is inconsistent even tho these spacings are emphasizing the same sounds
01:07:730 (2) - For a more smooth transition, you can place this at x:291|y:225 so it has equal DS from the next and the previous circle
01:12:502 (1) - Deserves a bit more spacing in my opinion, than the one given, since its the downbeat. You adjust this by making a reverse like 01:13:866 (1) - this one starting here 01:12:502 (1) - . I Tried doing this but you know better with placements, i still believe that the added spacing with a reverse instead is the optimal rhythm choice here
01:17:616 (2,1,2) - Same as above ^
01:32:957 (1) - Im not sure this is enough reaction time, as dictated by the Salad diff ranking criteria, you should double check, however i might be wrong
01:39:775 (3) - Increase spacing for consistency with 01:34:150 (2) -
01:45:230 (3) - Similar to above
01:54:775 (1) - Shouldnt this have a bit more spacing rather than being on the exact same x axis as the previous object

[

Platter]

00:00:230 (1,2) - Feel free to ignore this if it intrudes too much in your style. However, i feel like the tilt thats being given to these 2 sliders doesnt flow well with the next pattern. For example 00:01:593 (1,2) - the exact following set of similar sliders has a drastically different rotation and they flow way better since the catcher is moving to the next object while they are catching the current one, ensuring nice playability and flow. 00:00:230 (1,2) - however here the rotation thats being given forces the catcher to stop moving ever so slightly, breaking the smooth movement. I fiddled around with the pattern and i think something along the lines of this is the optimal pattern here (I Used the same DS and curve as these 00:01:593 (1,2) - )
00:17:616 (3,1) - I Feel like this needs more spacing since this is the same as 00:16:423 (8,1) - and thats a hyper jump
00:53:582 (2) - Move to somewhere like x:242|y:125 for more consistent spacing between objects
01:38:411 (1) - I Would give this less of a curve i doubt theres a reason for the droplets to be like that. A More linear curve will do the trick
01:51:366 (3) - move this to the right more so this jump isnt as sharp
I Really, really, really like this platter

[

Tyrell's Utopia]

01:11:138 - This timing point is 1 ms earlier, the same timing point on previous diffs is on 01:11:139 -
00:05:002 (3) - This is a really distinct sound thats made even more distinct by that beautiful hitsound. As such i feel like it should stand out more than just being expressed by the ever repeating 4 circle pattern you used earlier. You could try something like this for more movement to bode well with the added emphasis
00:15:911 (1,2,3,4) - You could incorporate more movement here by spreading these objects out more on the x axis
00:18:980 (3) - Maybe ctrl G this so the dash is more noticable and the transition to the 00:19:320 (1) - is better
00:21:195 (4,1) - I personally would expect a hyperdash here as well, for the added consistency since both previous and next circle strings were connected with a hyperdash
00:51:536 (2) - move to x:273|y:118 for equal DS between next and previous object
01:41:139 (1,1) - I Really disagree with these extended sliders. While i understand they are based on the vocals, i feel like they kill all the momentum built up from previous patterns. Plus, its not like you solely focused on the vocal, so a switch to the instruments would be consistent with the whole patterning of the kiai
02:05:002 (3,4,5,6) - You should reduce spacing here, it feels like a sudden change of spacing emphasis compared to the previous patterns after the kiai

This concludes my first ctb mod ever, it was based more around my experience as a player rather as a ctb modder. Dont smite me!
The set is pretty solid in my opinion, cant wait to see it in the qualified section!
Good Luck to everyone~

Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

Benita 2017-03-11T21:09:04+00:00

Nokashi wrote:
As Requested by Benny-

[ General]
Looking Good! - ayy

[ Salad]
00:02:275 (2,3,4) - While playing the distance between these circles is inconsistent even though its the same sounds that are being expressed. Thus, it feels off to follow and the last 2 circles dont exactly provide the correct movement. Maybe try something like this there isnt such a problem spacing wise since the next object is on the downbeat - nana it's not inconsistent, it's supposed to be a curve xD When dashing you kinda need time to recover from the dash so the bigger distance between 2,3 is just for better playability.
00:05:855 (2,3) - I Would reduce this spacing a bit, since it might come across as sudden when playing, especially when you are new player. Having a relatively similar distance with 00:06:877 (5,1) - will do the trick nicely - b-but it is the same spacing? 2,13 between both xD Either way, made both 1,90 to stay consistent with previous jumps :3
00:07:900 (3,4) - I Would expect some more movement between these objects, incorporating some movement between these 2 objects will compliment the song quite nicely . Maybe put the 4 on the same x axis as the 2, and readjust the 3 position accordingly - Added a tiny bit distance betwee them
00:20:343 (3,4) - Try giving this 1.80x DS distancing instead, like you did here 00:18:980 (4,1) - , To be consistent - If you listen to the song, 00:19:320 (1) - is higher pitched than 00:20:684 (4) - and 1 also has a finisher, so makes sense to me to have a little less distance.
00:25:968 (4,1) - You could space those out a bit more seems really cluttered and the song could support more movement here since the vocal are a bit "jumpy" you can say - Yeah, agreed, tried putting some more distance here
00:34:661 (2,3,4,5) - Here as well, the vocal can allow more movement than the one you gave it. Just a suggestion this time cause i dont want to intervene too much to how you do this but trying these placements will surely make it play better - b-but my curves ))):
00:48:298 (3) - Reduce this spacing, or increase this 00:50:002 (2,1) - spacing to be more consistent, since the emphasis given is inconsistent even tho these spacings are emphasizing the same sounds - o-ok, reduced the first one
01:07:730 (2) - For a more smooth transition, you can place this at x:291|y:225 so it has equal DS from the next and the previous circle - okok, you don't need to type in the y axis tho, x axis is enough :^)
01:12:502 (1) - Deserves a bit more spacing in my opinion, than the one given, since its the downbeat. You adjust this by making a reverse like 01:13:866 (1) - this one starting here 01:12:502 (1) - . I Tried doing this but you know better with placements, i still believe that the added spacing with a reverse instead is the optimal rhythm choice here - Yeah, ok so I get what you mean and I increased the spacing. I don't wanna add a reverse slider though because the pitch is higher on 01:13:014 (2) - so I wanna keep it a single note with slider.
01:17:616 (2,1,2) - Same as above ^ - This one on the other hand, I can agree to!
01:32:957 (1) - Im not sure this is enough reaction time, as dictated by the Salad diff ranking criteria, you should double check, however i might be wrong - I think 1/1 is enough for a Salad? o:
01:39:775 (3) - Increase spacing for consistency with 01:34:150 (2) - - Fixed
01:45:230 (3) - Similar to above - Fixed
01:54:775 (1) - Shouldnt this have a bit more spacing rather than being on the exact same x axis as the previous object - It isn't really a strong beat at all, which is why no jump

[ Platter]
00:00:230 (1,2) - Feel free to ignore this if it intrudes too much in your style. However, i feel like the tilt thats being given to these 2 sliders doesnt flow well with the next pattern. For example 00:01:593 (1,2) - the exact following set of similar sliders has a drastically different rotation and they flow way better since the catcher is moving to the next object while they are catching the current one, ensuring nice playability and flow. 00:00:230 (1,2) - however here the rotation thats being given forces the catcher to stop moving ever so slightly, breaking the smooth movement. I fiddled around with the pattern and i think something along the lines of this is the optimal pattern here (I Used the same DS and curve as these 00:01:593 (1,2) - ) - I get your point and I think it would be a lot more relevant if the sliders were actual stairs but they're not. They are fairly simple dashes and don't really require much directionchanges. I will however consider changing it if someone else points it out!
00:17:616 (3,1) - I Feel like this needs more spacing since this is the same as 00:16:423 (8,1) - and thats a hyper jump - I've only added hyperdashes on notes with a finisher so a hyper here feels random to me.
00:53:582 (2) - Move to somewhere like x:242|y:125 for more consistent spacing between objects - It's supposed to be a fairly easy jump here to emphasise the downbeat.
01:38:411 (1) - I Would give this less of a curve i doubt theres a reason for the droplets to be like that. A More linear curve will do the trick - Yes, I agree. Made it equal to 01:32:957 (1) -
01:51:366 (3) - move this to the right more so this jump isnt as sharp - moved a tiny bit closer but don't wanna move it too close since all other dashes are around 1,35x
I Really, really, really like this platter

This concludes my first ctb mod ever, it was based more around my experience as a player rather as a ctb modder. Dont smite me!
The set is pretty solid in my opinion, cant wait to see it in the qualified section!
Good Luck to everyone~

Thanks a lot! Keep modding, you're doing great <3

Nelly

Beatmap Nominator

1,533 posts

Joined August 2014

Nelly 2017-03-12T04:51:36+00:00

Nokashi wrote:
Nelly's Cup]
00:02:957 (1) - Having a sudden 2/1 reverse on a rhythm you previously followed with 1/1 sliders doesnt reflect the music that well, especially since there is a beat here 00:03:298 - so a 1/1 reverse instead of a 2/1 reverse would work better. I Would recommend a similar rhythm with previous measures for the added pattern consistency, like this
00:08:752 - again having such a gap in rhythm here doesn't reflect the music well, even though it is a cup you could make more of this measure, especially 00:08:752 - this beat
00:10:116 - I Would make a seperate slider starting from here and making 00:09:775 - a circle instead to emphasize the ringing sounds, like you did last measure
00:12:161 (2,3) - This pattern isnt consistent with the following pattern that express the same sound in my opinion and feels rather disconnected. Try something like this instead. This rhythm suggestion will ensure zero gaps in rhythm in this section
00:37:048 (2) - ctrlg and moving to somewhere like x:301|y:110 can improve the transition to the next object
00:50:684 (1) - move to somewhere like x:180|y:286
00:50:684 (1,2,1) - To avoid ambiguity on whether to dash on not, i would make the spacing on these objects more consistent. For reference 00:52:389 (2) - this circle has a ~1.70 DS with previous object and ~1.10 DS with next object, which isnt so consistent. I Would move to somewhere along the lines of x:158|y:290
00:54:775 (1) - maybe something like this will compliment the music better rather than a 3/1 slider since 00:55:797 - this will be emphasized better
00:58:866 (1) - I Wouldnt make this curve so sharp since the droplets dont convert that neat, smooth it out like this this
01:38:070 (3) - I Would move to somewhere like x:290|y:127 so it flows better
01:46:593 (1) - I Feel like such a sudden horizontal slider doesnt compliment the song well, maybe give it some curve?

Confirmed, one tip, y are not effect to CtB gameplay at all, only x are. Thanks for a mod!

:d

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Tyrell

425 posts

Joined July 2014

Tyrell 2017-03-13T13:40:12+00:00

Nokashi wrote:
[ Tyrell's Utopia]
01:11:138 - This timing point is 1 ms earlier, the same timing point on previous diffs is on 01:11:139 - fixed
00:05:002 (3) - This is a really distinct sound thats made even more distinct by that beautiful hitsound. As such i feel like it should stand out more than just being expressed by the ever repeating 4 circle pattern you used earlier. You could try something like this for more movement to bode well with the added emphasis used a different pattern for these 4 notes
00:15:911 (1,2,3,4) - You could incorporate more movement here by spreading these objects out more on the x axis moved the last two notes a bit further from the first two
00:18:980 (3) - Maybe ctrl G this so the dash is more noticable and the transition to the 00:19:320 (1) - is better that changes the dash structure and goes against the flow i wanted. Makes the first a hyper and not the second dash a hyper as intended
00:21:195 (4,1) - I personally would expect a hyperdash here as well, for the added consistency since both previous and next circle strings were connected with a hyperdash there was a hyper to the first notes because of vocal emphasis, and the hyper to the last note for ending emphasis. Adding a hyper to notes inbetween seems forced and i like the flow a lot more how it already is
00:51:536 (2) - move to x:273|y:118 for equal DS between next and previous object i see what you're suggesting but that isnt the intended design of that pattern. it is meant to be an easy 1/2 walk into a 1/2 dash. changed some distances to make it more clear tho.
01:41:139 (1,1) - I Really disagree with these extended sliders. While i understand they are based on the vocals, i feel like they kill all the momentum built up from previous patterns. Plus, its not like you solely focused on the vocal, so a switch to the instruments would be consistent with the whole patterning of the kiai it's the design of the kiai tho. it is meant to highlight and use the vocals for intensity in the patterns. the drums and other instruments are there to fill and link it all together. going off instruments completely defeats the purpose of how i mapped the kiai here. I understand why you disgree tho it's perfectly fine.
02:05:002 (3,4,5,6) - You should reduce spacing here, it feels like a sudden change of spacing emphasis compared to the previous patterns after the kiai this is to highlight the notes at the end and give it that finishing intensity.

This concludes my first ctb mod ever, it was based more around my experience as a player rather as a ctb modder. Dont smite me!
The set is pretty solid in my opinion, cant wait to see it in the qualified section!
Good Luck to everyone~

Thanks for the mod.

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ZiRoX

Elite Mapper

1,052 posts

Joined November 2009

ZiRoX 2017-03-31T23:02:53+00:00

[Nelly's Cup]

Tick Rate 2 is too much for a Cup, it imposes more precision to the sliders which players of this level might not have and doesn't sound too good in some parts. Go for TR 1.
00:08:411 (1,2) -The distance here is too large, and it's odd that you didn't use a repeat slider as you did previously.
00:10:116 - It's odd that you didn't map this bell sound when you did previously.
00:17:957 (2) - I'd make this slider a bit more vertical, though not as much as the previous one. The reason is that it has an antiflow movement, so going full horizontal might be too much. Something like 30° feels better.
00:20:684 (2,3,1) - I'd recommend making these 2 a single slider, as there's a held vocal. If you don't do it, I'd prefer if you make this distance a bit smaller. I know there's a 2/1 spacing between each object, but Cup players have higher reaction times.
00:28:184 (2,1) - I'd also recommend making this distance a bit smaller.
00:50:684 (1,2) - I don't get why you decided to make the slider 1/1 longer, I'd prefer some consistency here.
00:52:730 (1,2) - This distance feels really large, I'd move 00:54:093 (2,1) - a bit to the left to reduce it.
01:10:798 (4,1) - This distance also feels a bit large. I'd move (4) a bit to the right.
01:12:502 (2,1) - I'd make these 2 sliders have a little less horizontal movement, especially since the second involves antiflow movement and it's a calm part.
01:15:230 (2) - Personally I'd make this slider go left, the antiflow doesn't fit the song IMO.
01:17:957 (2) - Make it a bit more vertical, similar reasons as stated before.
01:42:502 (2,3) - Slant them a bit, they have a lot of horizontal movement because of the 1,5x SV multiplier.
01:47:957 (2,3,1) - Reduce the distance on this. You have to do it in a single movement if you pretend to make it without a dash, so it requires a timing you can't expect from players on this level.

[Salad]

The intro is terribly dashy for such a calm intro. Considering a Salad is meant to introduce players to dashing, it isn't fitting at all. Dashes like 00:00:400 (2,3) -, 00:03:468 (2,3) -, 00:04:832 (2,3) -, 00:05:855 (2,3) -, 00:08:923 (2,3) - aren't necessary at all. And some others involve both a direction change + dashing, which also feels a bit too much for this intro (00:01:423 (5,1) - , 00:09:434 (4,1) - )
00:10:798 (3,1) - I'd put a larger dash to make it clearer and both stronger to mark the beginning of the Kiai.
00:16:593 (1,2,3) - These distances are really ambiguous, so it's not clear what to do. I'd reduce the first one (making it clearly walkable) and increase the 2nd one (trying to enforce a dash).
00:24:434 (1) - I would put this circle closer to the center of the screen. I know there's a break before it, so the side-to-side movement should be doable, but there's a lot of time you don't know where the next note is coming from, so it can be unexpected.
00:26:480 (2,3) - This distance is ambiguous too, it's barely walkable and the completely horizontal slider doesn't really help in making this walkable.
00:27:843 (2,1) - I'd reduce this distance by a tiny bit.
00:29:889 (3) - I'd replace this with a circle and a dash to the next note instead. Sometimes, the less, the better.
00:31:252 (2) - I'd put this closer to the other objects, the walk feels a bit large for a calm part.
00:31:934 (2,3) - The song isn't really calling for a dash here, despite the increase in pitch, so I'd take the dash out.
00:32:275 (3,1,2,3,1) - These distances are a bit large for a comfortable and fitting walk in this calm part, so I'd reduce the distance.
00:35:173 (5,1) - I'd also put this note closer to the previous object, feels a bit ambiguous.
00:36:025 (2,1,2) - I wouldn't put dash on this part, I think it's quite calm.
00:39:775 (1,2,1) - The way you placed the dash is weird; I would have expected the dash to be between (2,1) instead of (1,2) because (1) is the downbeat and has the highest pitch of all.
00:48:638 (1,2,1) - ^Similar stuff. I would have expected a larger distance between (2,1). And the current (1,2) distance is hardly (for players of this level) walkable, so I'd reduce it.
00:52:389 (3,1) - I would have put a larger distance / a dash here.
00:52:730 (1,2,1) - Similar stuff as mentioned previously, distance should be larger between (2,1) rather than (1,2)
00:54:775 (1,2,3) - Similar stuff here.
00:55:798 (3,4,1) - Similar stuff here. And the (3,4) distance is far too large to be comfortably walkable.
00:56:820 (1,2,3) - I don't really think the dash to (2) is fitting, and by making the short repeat slider you "sort of" omitted the downbeat at 00:57:843 - . I'd suggest two 1/1 repeat sliders with a dash in between.
00:58:866 (1,2,3,4,1) - Dashes should be between (2,3) and (4,1) instead of (1,2) and (3,4).
01:02:275 (3,1) - A dash would be fitting here.
01:03:980 (2,1) - ^And here.
01:07:048 (1,2,3) - Doing equal distances is boring, because it doesn't emphasize anything. I'd put (2) closer to (1) instead.
01:08:070 (3,4,1) - Dash should be between (4,1) instead of (3,4).
01:12:161 (3,1) - 01:17:616 (2,1) - The 1/2 dashes aren't really fitting for a calm part.
01:26:139 (3,4) - Ambiguous distance. If you intend it to be a dash it should be larger.
01:34:320 (3,4,1) - Distances are odd here. I'd put (4) closer to the previous object, so that it's more clearly walkable and try to make a dash between (4,1).
01:36:707 (2,3) - A larger distance / dash would also be nice here.
01:40:798 (4,1) - ^And here!
01:46:593 (1,2) - A bit ambiguous, I'd clarify whether you intend this to be walked or dashes by reducing/increasing the distance.
01:50:684 (2) - I'd put this closer to the previous object, the dash isn't really necessary.
01:59:889 (6,7,1) - Having a direction change combined with a dash feels a bit too much for this calm part. I'd either Ctrl+H the slider or try reworking this a bit.

[Platter]

00:00:570 (2) - I'd put this slider head a bit closer to the previous object, just to make sure it looks walkable in comparison to the following dash.
00:03:298 (2) - ^Similar stuff here.
00:06:025 (2) - ^Same here.
00:07:389 (2) - ^Same here.
00:08:752 (2) - ^Same here.
00:10:116 (2) - ^Same here.
00:12:161 (3) - I'd try to rework the distances to/from this object. I'd reduce the distance to it and increase the distance from it, to better emphasize the downbeat that comes after it.
00:16:593 (1,2) - I'd try to increase this distance a bit to emphasize the vocals a bit more, like you did on 00:17:957 (1,2) - . Maybe moving 00:17:105 (2,3,1) - as a whole to the right can do it.
00:20:343 (3) - I'd slant this a bit, since there's a lot of dashing involved in this part and this might be ~easy~ to miss.
00:21:877 (8,9) - I'd do a stronger dash here, and maybe place (9) to the right of (8) instead.
00:24:775 (2,3) - This distance looks a bit ambiguous. Either reduce it or increase it to show your intent more clearly.
00:26:139 (1,2) - ^Same here.
00:27:502 (1,2) - ^Same here.
00:29:207 (2,3) - ^Same here. Also, I'd make 00:29:889 (3,1) - a tiny bit larger to emphasize the dash a bit better.
00:30:230 (1,2) - ^Same here.
00:30:911 (2,1) - ^Same here.
00:31:934 (2,3) - ^Same here.
00:35:173 (4,1) - I'd reduce this distance a bit to add some leniency after the previous pattern, which isn't that easy.
00:42:502 (1) - Similarly to what was suggested in the beginning, I'd put this slider's head a bit closer to the previous object.
00:56:480 (4,1) - I would have expected a similar distance to the previous patterns, so I'd increase it a bit.
00:59:889 (3) - Again, I expected a larger distance to this to emphasize the downbeat.
01:00:911 (1) - ^Similar stuff.
01:08:070 (3) - ^Similar stuff
01:09:093 (1) - ^Similar stuff.
01:23:070 (2) - I think it would be better to make this slider go right (and maybe adjust its position a bit). It would make the distance to it walkable and slightly increase the dash after it

Good luck!

Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

Benita 2017-04-05T15:44:42+00:00

ZiRoX wrote:
[Salad]
The intro is terribly dashy for such a calm intro. Considering a Salad is meant to introduce players to dashing, it isn't fitting at all. Dashes like 00:00:400 (2,3) -, 00:03:468 (2,3) -, 00:04:832 (2,3) -, 00:05:855 (2,3) -, 00:08:923 (2,3) - aren't necessary at all. And some others involve both a direction change + dashing, which also feels a bit too much for this intro (00:01:423 (5,1) - , 00:09:434 (4,1) - )
00:10:798 (3,1) - I'd put a larger dash to make it clearer and both stronger to mark the beginning of the Kiai.
00:16:593 (1,2,3) - These distances are really ambiguous, so it's not clear what to do. I'd reduce the first one (making it clearly walkable) and increase the 2nd one (trying to enforce a dash).
00:24:434 (1) - I would put this circle closer to the center of the screen. I know there's a break before it, so the side-to-side movement should be doable, but there's a lot of time you don't know where the next note is coming from, so it can be unexpected.
00:26:480 (2,3) - This distance is ambiguous too, it's barely walkable and the completely horizontal slider doesn't really help in making this walkable.
00:27:843 (2,1) - I'd reduce this distance by a tiny bit.
00:29:889 (3) - I'd replace this with a circle and a dash to the next note instead. Sometimes, the less, the better.
00:31:252 (2) - I'd put this closer to the other objects, the walk feels a bit large for a calm part.
00:31:934 (2,3) - The song isn't really calling for a dash here, despite the increase in pitch, so I'd take the dash out.
00:32:275 (3,1,2,3,1) - These distances are a bit large for a comfortable and fitting walk in this calm part, so I'd reduce the distance.
00:35:173 (5,1) - I'd also put this note closer to the previous object, feels a bit ambiguous.
00:36:025 (2,1,2) - I wouldn't put dash on this part, I think it's quite calm.
00:39:775 (1,2,1) - The way you placed the dash is weird; I would have expected the dash to be between (2,1) instead of (1,2) because (1) is the downbeat and has the highest pitch of all.
00:48:638 (1,2,1) - ^Similar stuff. I would have expected a larger distance between (2,1). And the current (1,2) distance is hardly (for players of this level) walkable, so I'd reduce it.
00:52:389 (3,1) - I would have put a larger distance / a dash here.
00:52:730 (1,2,1) - Similar stuff as mentioned previously, distance should be larger between (2,1) rather than (1,2)
00:54:775 (1,2,3) - Similar stuff here.
00:55:798 (3,4,1) - Similar stuff here. And the (3,4) distance is far too large to be comfortably walkable.
00:56:820 (1,2,3) - I don't really think the dash to (2) is fitting, and by making the short repeat slider you "sort of" omitted the downbeat at 00:57:843 - . I'd suggest two 1/1 repeat sliders with a dash in between.
00:58:866 (1,2,3,4,1) - Dashes should be between (2,3) and (4,1) instead of (1,2) and (3,4).
01:02:275 (3,1) - A dash would be fitting here.
01:03:980 (2,1) - ^And here.
01:07:048 (1,2,3) - Doing equal distances is boring, because it doesn't emphasize anything. I'd put (2) closer to (1) instead.
01:08:070 (3,4,1) - Dash should be between (4,1) instead of (3,4).
01:12:161 (3,1) - 01:17:616 (2,1) - The 1/2 dashes aren't really fitting for a calm part.
01:26:139 (3,4) - Ambiguous distance. If you intend it to be a dash it should be larger.
01:34:320 (3,4,1) - Distances are odd here. I'd put (4) closer to the previous object, so that it's more clearly walkable and try to make a dash between (4,1).
01:36:707 (2,3) - A larger distance / dash would also be nice here.
01:40:798 (4,1) - ^And here!
01:46:593 (1,2) - A bit ambiguous, I'd clarify whether you intend this to be walked or dashes by reducing/increasing the distance.
01:50:684 (2) - I'd put this closer to the previous object, the dash isn't really necessary.
01:59:889 (6,7,1) - Having a direction change combined with a dash feels a bit too much for this calm part. I'd either Ctrl+H the slider or try reworking this a bit.
[Platter]
00:00:570 (2) - I'd put this slider head a bit closer to the previous object, just to make sure it looks walkable in comparison to the following dash.
00:03:298 (2) - ^Similar stuff here.
00:06:025 (2) - ^Same here.
00:07:389 (2) - ^Same here.
00:08:752 (2) - ^Same here.
00:10:116 (2) - ^Same here.
00:12:161 (3) - I'd try to rework the distances to/from this object. I'd reduce the distance to it and increase the distance from it, to better emphasize the downbeat that comes after it.
00:16:593 (1,2) - I'd try to increase this distance a bit to emphasize the vocals a bit more, like you did on 00:17:957 (1,2) - . Maybe moving 00:17:105 (2,3,1) - as a whole to the right can do it. - Considering the vocal is far more intense on 00:17:957 (1,2) - I don't want the distances to be equal to it. Did however increase the distance though.
00:20:343 (3) - I'd slant this a bit, since there's a lot of dashing involved in this part and this might be ~easy~ to miss.
00:21:877 (8,9) - I'd do a stronger dash here, and maybe place (9) to the right of (8) instead. - I wanna keep it to the left but increased the dash.
00:24:775 (2,3) - This distance looks a bit ambiguous. Either reduce it or increase it to show your intent more clearly.
00:26:139 (1,2) - ^Same here.
00:27:502 (1,2) - ^Same here.
00:29:207 (2,3) - ^Same here. Also, I'd make 00:29:889 (3,1) - a tiny bit larger to emphasize the dash a bit better.
00:30:230 (1,2) - ^Same here.
00:30:911 (2,1) - ^Same here.
00:31:934 (2,3) - ^Same here.
00:35:173 (4,1) - I'd reduce this distance a bit to add some leniency after the previous pattern, which isn't that easy.
00:42:502 (1) - Similarly to what was suggested in the beginning, I'd put this slider's head a bit closer to the previous object.
00:56:480 (4,1) - I would have expected a similar distance to the previous patterns, so I'd increase it a bit.
00:59:889 (3) - Again, I expected a larger distance to this to emphasize the downbeat.
01:00:911 (1) - ^Similar stuff.
01:08:070 (3) - ^Similar stuff
01:09:093 (1) - ^Similar stuff.
01:23:070 (2) - I think it would be better to make this slider go right (and maybe adjust its position a bit). It would make the distance to it walkable and slightly increase the dash after it
Good luck!

No reply means fixed, also made a few changes I spotted by myself. Thanks alot ZiRoX!

Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

Benita 2017-04-07T13:46:13+00:00

Updated Nelly's diff

Nelly

Beatmap Nominator

1,533 posts

Joined August 2014

Nelly 2017-04-07T21:12:45+00:00

ZiRoX wrote:
[Nelly's Cup]
Tick Rate 2 is too much for a Cup, it imposes more precision to the sliders which players of this level might not have and doesn't sound too good in some parts. Go for TR 1.
00:08:411 (1,2) -The distance here is too large, and it's odd that you didn't use a repeat slider as you did previously.
00:10:116 - It's odd that you didn't map this bell sound when you did previously.
00:17:957 (2) - I'd make this slider a bit more vertical, though not as much as the previous one. The reason is that it has an antiflow movement, so going full horizontal might be too much. Something like 30° feels better.
00:20:684 (2,3,1) - I'd recommend making these 2 a single slider, as there's a held vocal. If you don't do it, I'd prefer if you make this distance a bit smaller. I know there's a 2/1 spacing between each object, but Cup players have higher reaction times.
00:28:184 (2,1) - I'd also recommend making this distance a bit smaller.
00:50:684 (1,2) - I don't get why you decided to make the slider 1/1 longer, I'd prefer some consistency here.
00:52:730 (1,2) - This distance feels really large, I'd move 00:54:093 (2,1) - a bit to the left to reduce it.
01:10:798 (4,1) - This distance also feels a bit large. I'd move (4) a bit to the right.
01:12:502 (2,1) - I'd make these 2 sliders have a little less horizontal movement, especially since the second involves antiflow movement and it's a calm part.
01:15:230 (2) - Personally I'd make this slider go left, the antiflow doesn't fit the song IMO.
01:17:957 (2) - Make it a bit more vertical, similar reasons as stated before.
01:42:502 (2,3) - Slant them a bit, they have a lot of horizontal movement because of the 1,5x SV multiplier.
01:47:957 (2,3,1) - Reduce the distance on this. You have to do it in a single movement if you pretend to make it without a dash, so it requires a timing you can't expect from players on this level.

Everything is applied! Also I made a semi-modding a bit to fix some parts https://puu.sh/vcNFn/ca6fddf4f7.osu

Yumeno Himiko

Elite Storyboarder

1,168 posts

Joined August 2012

Yumeno Himiko 2017-04-23T12:57:09+00:00

Sorry for late!

[Nelly's Cup]
00:00:230 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3) - well, it's nice to use all 1/1 patterns, but you're not following the instrument. Check what benny made in Salad diff, and try to follow instruments. It'll make the rhythm different and unique in this song.
00:43:866 (1,2) - Like the previous patterns, make it 3/1 slider + 1/1 slider.
Generally speaking, it's a nice diff.

[Salad]
00:02:275 (2,3,4) - The rhythm will be better if you remove 00:02:445 (3) and add a note at 00:02:786 (4). It follows the piano.
00:05:514 - Your choice, I think it's nice to have a circle here.
00:07:730 (2,3,4) - same as the first suggestion
00:17:616 (2,3) - a bit ambiguous here, I think you can decrease ds a bit to make it more like a walk.
00:55:456 (2) - My suggestion is move it a bit right, closer to 00:54:775 (1), so the dash at 00:55:456 (2,3) will be more clear. If you're not meaning to have a dash, you'd better cut down ds a bit.
01:01:934 (2) - Move it a bit left, a bit hard if catch it with a walk.
01:54:775 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - My suggestion is you can get ds decrease gradually, for the last patterns there're no dashes. This will match the lower volume perfectly.

[Platter]
00:00:230 - 00:11:139 reconsider if you want to follow the pianos.
00:21:366 (5,6,7,8) - not a good idea to get an antiflow here, actually curving it to right will be much better.
00:34:832 (2,3,4) - not clear if can be catched without dash or 1 dash or 2 dashes, my suggestion is move 00:35:002 (3,4) to right and make only 1 dash here.
00:54:775 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I wish I can get a dash every clap, but I can catch the whole pattern without using a dash. This is really awkward since this part is a bit strong.
For the last part, consider the same thing as I mentioned in Salad diff.

[Tyrell's Utopia]
00:00:230 - 00:11:139 reconsider if you want to follow the pianos.
00:19:320 (1) - split it into a slider + a circle, like other patterns.
01:16:252 (4) - to make the dash more clear, move it left to x:164
01:21:366 (5) - dash?
It's a nice diff.

That's all from me, good luck~

autofanboy

Elite Mapper / osu!trivium Champion

1,591 posts

Joined January 2011

autofanboy 2017-04-23T14:35:53+00:00

Hello there!

█ Optional to change --- █ Suggested to change --- █ Unrankable

[

General]

All good! No general issues found.

[

Nelly's Cup]

Inherited Points

01:57:502 - , 02:00:229 - , 02:02:957 - , 02:05:514 - You forgot to change the volumes of these inherited points.

Gameplay
00:12:502 (3,1) - The slider velocity at this part are a bit high in my opinion. During gameplay, the sliders are way too horizontal. To fix this, I recommend slanting them a bit. Try moving the tail of 00:12:502 (3) - to x:32, y:128, and Ctrl+H this for 00:13:866 (1) - .
00:42:502 (2) - I know you tried to make it simple in the timeline at this part, but it doesn't match the audio here. I think it is better to end this slider at 00:43:014 - .
00:46:593 (1,2,1,2,1) - It seems boring for 00:50:684 (1) - because all the part here I highlighted are with same type of movement in gameplay. Maybe you can change 00:50:684 (1) - more, for instance avoid using C-shaped slider.
01:02:957 (1,2,3) - This part is similar to 00:54:775 (1,2,1,2) - but you didn't use such timeline for it, showing an inconsistency here. I think you should make use of these 1/1 sliders + 1/2 distances in between.
01:49:320 (1) - , 01:52:048 (1) - Again, the slider velocities of this two sliders are quite large in my opinion. I think you can curve it less outward. The current bending is quite big and it can be difficult for beginners.

[

Salad]

AIMod

Kiai's end isn't snapped! - 01:54:605 -

Gameplay
00:01:593 (1,2) - Distance here can be reduced slightly. Currently I still have the mind thinking that I should dash here, but I deem that (2) is not a good beat to be emphasized. You may try moving 00:00:230 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - altogether to x:256.
00:07:048 (1,2) - ^, reduce this distance too.
00:11:139 (1) - Perhaps you are trying to use this kind of timeline here, but I don't think it matches the audio at this point. It sounds much better to end at 00:11:820 - though.
00:24:434 - 00:35:684 - This whole part can be FC'ed without dashing, which is not a great thing for a Salad, personally. What about adding one or two dashes here? I suggest adding them at 00:24:434 (1,2) - and 00:29:889 (3,1) - .
00:40:457 (2,1) - Distance here can be increased for a little bit, right now it is still reachable without dashing.
01:02:957 (1,2) - Shouldn't this part be mapped with note timeline like 00:54:775 (1,2,3,4) - and 00:58:866 (1,2,3,4) - ? It seems so inconsistent currently.
02:02:786 (7,1) - It is still able for players to catch without dashing. I think you should not bend 02:02:275 (4,5,6,7) - too outwards. Maybe move (6) to x:96 ; (7) to x:144 and (1) to x:320.

[

Platter]

Gameplay

00:00:570 (2,3) - Not so good in flow :d It is quite hard to lift off and jump to catch (3) actually. Please change the pattern here.
00:13:525 (3) - The slider velocity here is quite big, causing the slider here to be so horizontal in gameplay. Considering 00:12:502 (1,2,3) - the whole part, it is also easy for players to miss at 00:13:014 (2,3) - because they have to make a quick turn after dashing at (2,3), and the slider here is with 1.20x slider velocity, which is too big. To solve this, simply slant (3) to increase the slope.
00:14:889 (3) - ^
00:20:684 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This looks quite simple in gameplay. I would expect some more jumps here as a good finisher before the break. Try a pattern like this: Add dash at 00:21:195 (4,5) - and 00:21:536 (6,7) - , then a HDash at the end for 00:21:877 (8,9) - ; *Screenshot (for reference)
00:42:502 (1,2) - It doesn't fit the audio here :thinking: It should be 1/3 beats in my opinion.
00:48:639 (1,2,3,4,5) - Good pattern, yet I think dashes can be more focused. For instance, I think the dashes should be mainly at 00:49:661 (3,4) - and 00:50:002 (4,5) - , so I suggest removing the dash at 00:49:491 (2,3) - and only put dashes at the two parts I mentioned here. This also gives a better sense of rhythm, personally.
00:52:730 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
00:57:502 (2,3,4,5) - ^, maybe remove the dash at (2,3) and only focus on (3,4) and (4,5) for the dashing.
01:00:911 (1,2,3,4) - ^, remove the dash at 01:00:911 (1,2) - , it doesn't feel so necessary to emphasize (2) here from my perspective.
01:24:775 (1,2) - The distance here can be reduced I think. It seems not a good one to emphasize (2) here, it is not a main strong beat. Instead, the dash should be at 01:25:798 (2,1) - .
02:05:173 (4,5,6) - What about having double dashes here? I deem it plays nicely and acts as a great finisher. Try moving (5) to x:224.

[

Tyrell's Utopia]

AIMod

Object isn't snapped! - 00:54:435 -
Object's end isn't snapped! - 01:25:455 -

Gameplay
00:21:536 (2,3) - What about a dash here? This can show progressive increase in rhythm for 00:20:684 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - this part.
00:27:502 (3,1,2,3,4) - Seems too repetitive with the left right jumping here. Maybe you can change some of the note placements to make it slightly different?
00:42:502 (1,2,3) - I think it matches 1/3 mapping more.
01:27:502 (1,2) - Despite showing the turning of the sliders, it doesn't play well in the gameplay. I feel like it should be Ctrl+G'ed and placed at the original place, it seems more aesthetic.
01:38:070 (3,4) - In my opinion, here can be a little bit intense, perhaps adding a dash here? In that way, players will most likely hold their dash button at 01:37:900 (2,3,4) - which matches the drum rhythm more.
01:48:980 (4) - ^, but you may want to keep the usage of slider. How about Ctrl+G'ing this to show that this is different from the previous 3 sliders, which can emphasize the prominent drumming.

Good luck!

Nelly

Beatmap Nominator

1,533 posts

Joined August 2014

Nelly 2017-04-23T15:04:41+00:00

Yumeno Himiko wrote:
Sorry for late!

[Nelly's Cup]
00:00:230 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3) - well, it's nice to use all 1/1 patterns, but you're not following the instrument. Check what benny made in Salad diff, and try to follow instruments. It'll make the rhythm different and unique in this song.
00:43:866 (1,2) - Like the previous patterns, make it 3/1 slider + 1/1 slider.
Generally speaking, it's a nice diff.

alienflybot wrote:
Hello there!

[ Nelly's Cup]

Inherited Points
01:57:502 - , 02:00:229 - , 02:02:957 - , 02:05:514 - You forgot to change the volumes of these inherited points.

Gameplay
00:12:502 (3,1) - The slider velocity at this part are a bit high in my opinion. During gameplay, the sliders are way too horizontal. To fix this, I recommend slanting them a bit. Try moving the tail of 00:12:502 (3) - to x:32, y:128, and Ctrl+H this for 00:13:866 (1) - .
00:42:502 (2) - I know you tried to make it simple in the timeline at this part, but it doesn't match the audio here. I think it is better to end this slider at 00:43:014 - .
00:46:593 (1,2,1,2,1) - It seems boring for 00:50:684 (1) - because all the part here I highlighted are with same type of movement in gameplay. Maybe you can change 00:50:684 (1) - more, for instance avoid using C-shaped slider.
01:02:957 (1,2,3) - This part is similar to 00:54:775 (1,2,1,2) - but you didn't use such timeline for it, showing an inconsistency here. I think you should make use of these 1/1 sliders + 1/2 distances in between.
01:49:320 (1) - , 01:52:048 (1) - Again, the slider velocities of this two sliders are quite large in my opinion. I think you can curve it less outward. The current bending is quite big and it can be difficult for beginners.

I had to deny Himiko's modding, dont see here to change. Alienfiretruck is accepted, everything is fixed

Edit to Himiko because my brain is dead: I know what to mean about variety and stuff but thats how I map Cups most of the time. A basic 1/2 notes in every screen. We can talk about it on Discord if you like and if it will work then ill follow your notes of your modding.

Nelly's Cup

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Last edited by Nelly 2017-04-28T16:27:53+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Tyrell

425 posts

Joined July 2014

Tyrell 2017-04-23T18:24:24+00:00

alienflybot wrote:
[ Tyrell's Utopia]

AIMod
Object isn't snapped! - 00:54:435 - fixed
Object's end isn't snapped! - 01:25:455 - fixed

Gameplay
00:21:536 (2,3) - What about a dash here? This can show progressive increase in rhythm for 00:20:684 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - this part. i used slight anti flow here for some form of progression leading up to the ending of the section here
00:27:502 (3,1,2,3,4) - Seems too repetitive with the left right jumping here. Maybe you can change some of the note placements to make it slightly different? no, this works how i want it to be and it makes it predictable which feels nice and clean.
00:42:502 (1,2,3) - I think it matches 1/3 mapping more. 1/4 spacing here seems to fit close to what was intended of the vocal rhythm.

01:27:502 (1,2) - Despite showing the turning of the sliders, it doesn't play well in the gameplay. I feel like it should be Ctrl+G'ed and placed at the original place, it seems more aesthetic. your suggestion looks better aesthetically but im not pleased with the gameplay. it isnt tricky and similar to previous sliders in the map so feels weird.
01:38:070 (3,4) - In my opinion, here can be a little bit intense, perhaps adding a dash here? In that way, players will most likely hold their dash button at 01:37:900 (2,3,4) - which matches the drum rhythm more. i dont think it would be a good change since i could justify other parts being more intense in the kiai and i am content with the difficulty rn. I think it's better to keep it this pattern as it was used at other points and it feels like a rain pattern for this SR.
01:48:980 (4) - ^, but you may want to keep the usage of slider. How about Ctrl+G'ing this to show that this is different from the previous 3 sliders, which can emphasize the prominent drumming. the increase in each jump adds emphasis here and you go from the last hyper to an antiflow slider which helps emphasize that part as well.

Good luck!

thx for the mod post.

Update

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Tyrell

425 posts

Joined July 2014

Tyrell 2017-04-23T18:41:24+00:00

Yumeno Himiko wrote:
Sorry for late!

[Tyrell's Utopia]
00:00:230 - 00:11:139 reconsider if you want to follow the pianos. i dont exactly get what you mean by this... explain further please. ;w;
00:19:320 (1) - split it into a slider + a circle, like other patterns. i used a longer slider here since it seemed to fit with the held vocal and it didnt really have a sound to justify making the slder 1/1/ also would make the pattern after awkward
01:16:252 (4) - to make the dash more clear, move it left to x:164 if i do that it messes up the equal distance of both jumps which should be understood and expected easily since increased spacing compared to previous walks
01:21:366 (5) - dash? a dash can fit here but i wanted to keep it a simple stream just because it feels nice and an interesting change of pace.
might consider a dash here tho if someone else suggests it as well
It's a nice diff.

That's all from me, good luck~

thx for the mod.

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Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

Benita 2017-04-24T21:33:02+00:00

Yumeno Himiko wrote:
Sorry for late!

[Salad]
00:02:275 (2,3,4) - The rhythm will be better if you remove 00:02:445 (3) and add a note at 00:02:786 (4). It follows the piano.
00:05:514 - Your choice, I think it's nice to have a circle here.
00:07:730 (2,3,4) - same as the first suggestion
00:17:616 (2,3) - a bit ambiguous here, I think you can decrease ds a bit to make it more like a walk.
00:55:456 (2) - My suggestion is move it a bit right, closer to 00:54:775 (1), so the dash at 00:55:456 (2,3) will be more clear. If you're not meaning to have a dash, you'd better cut down ds a bit. - I think the current distance is fine, I've used this througout the whole map
01:01:934 (2) - Move it a bit left, a bit hard if catch it with a walk.
01:54:775 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - My suggestion is you can get ds decrease gradually, for the last patterns there're no dashes. This will match the lower volume perfectly.

[Platter]
00:00:230 - 00:11:139 reconsider if you want to follow the pianos. - ... But I am?
00:21:366 (5,6,7,8) - not a good idea to get an antiflow here, actually curving it to right will be much better. - Why not? I feel a hyperdash to 8 is too much so I chose to use antiflow instead and I don't see anything wrong with the current pattern.
00:34:832 (2,3,4) - not clear if can be catched without dash or 1 dash or 2 dashes, my suggestion is move 00:35:002 (3,4) to right and make only 1 dash here. - Again, this is intentional,
I think it fits the music well
00:54:775 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I wish I can get a dash every clap, but I can catch the whole pattern without using a dash. This is really awkward since this part is a bit strong. - Put dashes on downbeats instead.
For the last part, consider the same thing as I mentioned in Salad diff.

That's all from me, good luck~

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[ General]
All good! No general issues found.

[ Salad]

AIMod
Kiai's end isn't snapped! - 01:54:605 -

Gameplay
00:01:593 (1,2) - Distance here can be reduced slightly. Currently I still have the mind thinking that I should dash here, but I deem that (2) is not a good beat to be emphasized. You may try moving 00:00:230 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - altogether to x:256.
00:07:048 (1,2) - ^, reduce this distance too.
00:11:139 (1) - Perhaps you are trying to use this kind of timeline here, but I don't think it matches the audio at this point. It sounds much better to end at 00:11:820 - though. - But the piano is ending 00:11:650 - ?
00:24:434 - 00:35:684 - This whole part can be FC'ed without dashing, which is not a great thing for a Salad, personally. What about adding one or two dashes here? I suggest adding them at 00:24:434 (1,2) - and 00:29:889 (3,1) - .
00:40:457 (2,1) - Distance here can be increased for a little bit, right now it is still reachable without dashing.
01:02:957 (1,2) - Shouldn't this part be mapped with note timeline like 00:54:775 (1,2,3,4) - and 00:58:866 (1,2,3,4) - ? It seems so inconsistent currently. - There is a clearer piano on the slider ends of 00:54:775 (1,2,3,4) - and 00:58:866 (1,2,3,4) - so that's why it's mapped differently
02:02:786 (7,1) - It is still able for players to catch without dashing. I think you should not bend 02:02:275 (4,5,6,7) - too outwards. Maybe move (6) to x:96 ; (7) to x:144 and (1) to x:320. - The song is easing out so I don't want any dashes here.. Reduced the curve on the notes though.

[ Platter]

Gameplay
00:00:570 (2,3) - Not so good in flow :d It is quite hard to lift off and jump to catch (3) actually. Please change the pattern here.
00:13:525 (3) - The slider velocity here is quite big, causing the slider here to be so horizontal in gameplay. Considering 00:12:502 (1,2,3) - the whole part, it is also easy for players to miss at 00:13:014 (2,3) - because they have to make a quick turn after dashing at (2,3), and the slider here is with 1.20x slider velocity, which is too big. To solve this, simply slant (3) to increase the slope.
00:14:889 (3) - ^
00:20:684 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This looks quite simple in gameplay. I would expect some more jumps here as a good finisher before the break. Try a pattern like this: Add dash at 00:21:195 (4,5) - and 00:21:536 (6,7) - , then a HDash at the end for 00:21:877 (8,9) - ; *Screenshot (for reference) - omg how many times have I explained this pattern now xD In the actual song, 00:22:048 - this beat right here, this bad boy, imo it doesn't support for a hyperdash. That's why I chose to use antiflow and due to the antiflow I don't want dashes cause that might be too hard. ok. imo nothing wrong with this pattern aaaaaa
00:42:502 (1,2) - It doesn't fit the audio here :thinking: It should be 1/3 beats in my opinion. - idk :s to me both 1/3 and 1/2 seems off so maybe it's just the vocal being off lol
00:48:639 (1,2,3,4,5) - Good pattern, yet I think dashes can be more focused. For instance, I think the dashes should be mainly at 00:49:661 (3,4) - and 00:50:002 (4,5) - , so I suggest removing the dash at 00:49:491 (2,3) - and only put dashes at the two parts I mentioned here. This also gives a better sense of rhythm, personally.
00:52:730 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
00:57:502 (2,3,4,5) - ^, maybe remove the dash at (2,3) and only focus on (3,4) and (4,5) for the dashing.
01:00:911 (1,2,3,4) - ^, remove the dash at 01:00:911 (1,2) - , it doesn't feel so necessary to emphasize (2) here from my perspective.
01:24:775 (1,2) - The distance here can be reduced I think. It seems not a good one to emphasize (2) here, it is not a main strong beat. Instead, the dash should be at 01:25:798 (2,1) - .
02:05:173 (4,5,6) - What about having double dashes here? I deem it plays nicely and acts as a great finisher. Try moving (5) to x:224. - aaa nooo, the piano is so so faint here :<

Good luck!

No reply means fixed. Thank you both for modding!

Dilectus

1,727 posts

Joined April 2014

Dilectus 2017-04-25T17:44:21+00:00

M4M from queue

General
the claps in the beginning are unecessary as there are no actual snares in the music at the time so it completly ruins the mood of the song (just makes it sound like a rap beat). it probably wouldve worked with a different hitsound, but i'd suggest just removing the claps overall. 01:54:775 - same here
01:22:048 - to 01:32:957 - maybe just replacing the snare to a soft clap with some reverb would make it sound much better.

Tyrell's Utopia
00:23:624 - snap back break to 00:23:837 -
00:45:570 (3) - x212? hdash seems out of place imo since the entire part consists of no hdashes
01:37:729 (1) - hdash cause it compliments this drum fill into the next part
01:42:502 (1,2) - this feels a bit awkward cause you sort of have to stop in the middle of the slider. a little bit more movement would compliment this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7920914

Platter
00:14:889 (3) - unsnapped
00:22:048 (9) - hdash?
00:51:536 (2) - x280 for consistent ds
01:07:161 (1) - unsnapped
01:09:320 (1) - ^

Salad
no complaints

Nelly's Cup
00:05:684 (1,2,3) - x420 for consistent ds (spacing seemed a bit low on 00:05:684 (1) - )
00:37:048 (2) - x262? (needs more emphasize)
01:02:956 (1) - missing whistle
01:03:979 (2) - ^

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hitsounds could've been more creative imo. but the kick snare patterns in the kiai's are really good though.
other than that it's a pretty good set. really love the sliders in every diff actually

good luck!

Tyrell

425 posts

Joined July 2014

Tyrell 2017-04-25T20:34:37+00:00

DavidEd wrote:
M4M from queue

General
the claps in the beginning are unecessary as there are no actual snares in the music at the time so it completly ruins the mood of the song (just makes it sound like a rap beat). it probably wouldve worked with a different hitsound, but i'd suggest just removing the claps overall. 01:54:775 - same here
01:22:048 - to 01:32:957 - maybe just replacing the snare to a soft clap with some reverb would make it sound much better. i let Benny handle the Hitsound concerns so whatever she changes i will too.

Tyrell's Utopia
00:23:624 - snap back break to 00:23:837 - okie
00:45:570 (3) - x212? hdash seems out of place imo since the entire part consists of no hdashes it's the ending of the section and it's emphasized musically so a hyper here fits well.
01:37:729 (1) - hdash cause it compliments this drum fill into the next part adding a HDash here is problematic with the design i had and would cause problems with the flow being smooth. Also i dont feel a hyper is necessary here. a dash works fine
01:42:502 (1,2) - this feels a bit awkward cause you sort of have to stop in the middle of the slider. a little bit more movement would compliment this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7920914 i very much like this slider and think it adds great variety, having the funky shape is intended. i never stop on this slider, i do a wiggle as that's the intended gameplay as well.

hitsounds could've been more creative imo. but the kick snare patterns in the kiai's are really good though.
other than that it's a pretty good set. really love the sliders in every diff actually

good luck!

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Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

Benita 2017-04-25T23:26:34+00:00

00:20:684 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I've explained this whole pattern a lot of times now, in the actual song, 00:22:048 - this beat right here, doesn't support for a hyperdash. That's why I chose to use antiflow and due to the antiflow I don't want dashes cause that might be too hard.

As for the hitsounds, they don't have to be the same as the song itself? I think the claps give a nice touch to the music so I'll keep them if you don't mind :p

rest was fixed! Thanks for the mod!

Nelly

Beatmap Nominator

1,533 posts

Joined August 2014

Nelly 2017-04-28T16:42:20+00:00

Fixed DavidEd's mod

:d

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-Sh1n1-

3,404 posts

Joined September 2012

-Sh1n1- 2017-05-16T19:43:24+00:00

Nelly's Cup

Check your unsnapped objects on AiMod please. (blame benny xd)
00:00:230 (1,2) - lots of things to talk around these objects:
1.- The current movement is "spicy" for newcomers imo, remenber that newbies don't have enough reaction to catch a zig-zag movement
2.- 00:00:230 (1) - should be to the left side of 00:00:570 (2) -, this is not a rule but I always recommend (at least for lower diffs), to put the first note near to the centre, one more time this is to make the first try of a newcomer more enjoyable.
00:07:048 (1,2,1) - 00:26:139 (1,1) - 00:31:593 (1,1) - same as above about the movements, 5 zig-zags for newbies is too complicated imo, try to use the whole mapping area.
00:08:070 (2,1) - try to be more constant with distances, shouldn't be it same as 00:01:934 (2,1) -?
why if 00:11:139 - is a strong sound 00:10:116 (2,3) - have more distance? as an advice for your future maps, I recommend you to work with distances, at least 3 distances, normal transitions that should be around 1.00x, high pitches around 1.30x and strong cymbals sounds around 1.60x just to mark the difference on each sound.
00:12:502 (3,1) - one more time, distances are the main problem on this diff, do you think that the sound of 00:12:161 - is stronger than 00:13:866 -? so why 00:11:139 (1,2) - have more distance than 00:12:502 (3,1) -?
00:15:230 - I imagine that you are enphasizing vocal to use 1.30x between 00:13:866 (1,2) -, right? if I'm not wrong, you should keep consistency with 00:17:957 (2,1) - to follow vocal too.
00:32:957 (1,2,1) - why distances are too different compared to 00:27:502 (1,2,1) - is structure is basically the same, consistency please.
00:37:048 (2,1) - they looks like stacked, I recommend you to put 00:38:411 (1) - on the left side.
00:42:502 (2) - what are you following here, vocal right? mmm I suggest you to follow intruments here cause they are prominent than vocal, so finish 00:42:502 (2) - at 00:42:843 -, maybe you are asking you, if this is for my preference only, and I wanna tell you that nope, it's kinda weird to follow vocal here, while 00:43:866 (1) - follows intruments, cause vocal finish at 00:45:059 - and the current pattern between 00:43:866 (1,2) - is perfectly fine.
00:50:683 - why the change of velocity? that's why 00:50:684 (1,2,1,2) - looks too close, if you want to keep your change of velocity, increase the distances in something similar as you were doing on 00:46:593 (1,2,1,2) -
00:54:775 (1,2) - make this distance around 1.00x cause vocal pitch on 00:55:797 - is similar as 00:57:843 -, so I think that the whole pattern will look much better if they keep consistency.
00:57:843 (2,1) - they looks like too close, I suggest you to add curve on 00:56:820 (1) - keeping the same distance with 00:57:843 (2) -, it will create more distance between 00:57:843 (2,1) -, no more than 1.20x pls.
01:06:025 (4,1) - it's not a bad idea but, can they be more to the centre? I mean, after 01:06:024 - there is a break of three 1/1, so as an instinct, we normally return to the centre to wait for the next fruit, so if 01:07:048 (1) - is too far of the centre, it could need the dash button to catch it, and you know that this is unrankable on cup diffs, you could slant 01:05:002 (3) - a bit more to the right just to readjust some distances and move 01:07:048 (1) - a bit to the right, another solution is keep your current pattern on 01:05:002 (3,4) - but 01:07:048 (1) - should be to the right side to avoid the mentioned problem.
01:19:320 (1,2) - controversial movement, if you can avoid such antiflow movement I'll be more than happy, just to avoid unnecessary DQs in future, you know how is the ranking process nowadays uwu.
01:38:070 (3,1,2) - why did you reduced your distances? tbh I like how 1.00x works, cause 1.20x looks like too fast for newbies, if you can reduce some distances like: 01:32:957 (1,2,1,2) - keeping 1.20 only at important sounds like 01:38:410 - 01:43:865 - 01:49:319 -.

In general a good diff, sorry if my mod looks like a wall of text, this is cause I want to unify your distances to show an ordered map

TBC

Last edited by -Sh1n1- 2017-06-12T23:15:39+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Nelly

Beatmap Nominator

1,533 posts

Joined August 2014

Nelly 2017-05-18T16:32:23+00:00

I accepted everything from -Sh1ni- thank you so much. While the distances cound be a problem for me I reduced an anti-flow parts to 0 and made my diff even simpler than before. I'm still a newble scrub at mapping, don't forget. Once again, thank you very much!

Nelly's Cup

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-Sh1n1-

3,404 posts

Joined September 2012

-Sh1n1- 2017-06-12T23:17:05+00:00

General

What I want from you guys, try to be consistent from 01:11:138 - to 01:30:228 -, decide, what you want to follow, also keep in mind that the sound of 01:11:819 - shouldn't be ignored, for me is the main problem of the map and I won't nominate it unless this part is propertly fixed. (rain and platter)

Salad

Check you unsnapped objects.
00:00:230 (1,2) - talking about structure, press ctrl+g, I mean slider should be first and then note, it's kinda weird that you are skipping 00:00:570 - that is an important sound, if you think that 00:00:400 - is important too, you could change such 1/1 slider into 1/2 and add reverse, gap between salad an platter will be still fine cause you have a break on 00:01:082 -, it's up to you.
00:05:684 (1,2) - yeah, we have the same case here.
Patterns at Kiai between Salad and Cup are very similar

Platter

00:10:457 (3,1) - add hyperdash, try rotating 00:10:457 (3) - and putting the head of 00:11:139 (1) - a bit to the left, it's possible cause I did on editor using 2.01x of distance, is the beginning of a new section, also is KIAI, so need more enphasis imo.
00:22:048 (9,1) - keep in mind that when you normally have a break, for instinct you goes to the center, so it's recommendable to keep the first note after break or at the beginning near to the centre.
00:24:775 (2,3) - such antiflow is kinda weird, I hope you will fix it with my previous advice.
00:37:389 (2) - should finish at 00:38:241 - imo, the piano sound of 00:38:411 - deserve a note with movement/little jump (up to you), also why is offscreen? haha it doesn't matter but it makes me laugh haha, move a bit down, it won't kill you, you know how is people nowadays, just trying to find the first mistake to ask for DQ
aren't you using 1.50x of distance to enphasize the sound of 00:41:480 -? take a look to 00:35:684 (1,2) - and 00:37:048 (1,2) - 00:43:866 (1,2) - as a reference, so increase the distance between 00:41:139 (1,2) - pls
00:51:706 (3,4) - vs 00:47:615 (3,4) - increase or decrease, up to you, but keep consistency.
01:01:933 (2,3,4,1) - why if 01:02:956 - is stronger than the rest, you are using the same distance there? two options: 01:01:933 (2,3,4) - move to the left, decrease distance of 01:01:933 (2,3) - around -0.30x/-0.20x.
01:06:024 (2,3,4,1) - same here, increase gradually the distance between each object to follow the instruments propertly, for me 01:07:047 - is more important than bells on 01:06:365 - and 01:06:706 -, and if you don't think so, I wanna ask you, what happens at 01:05:683 -? :p
from 01:11:138 - to 01:30:228 - you have the same problem as Rain, the intrument at 01:11:819 - is strong enough to be enphasized with a little jump as you did on 01:12:502 (1,2) -.
01:31:593 (1) - nope, too short to be a spinner, change it into slider please or remove 01:32:616 (1) - and finish your spinner at 01:32:615 - for consistency with salad.
01:32:616 (1,1) - hyperdash pls.
01:32:957 (1,2) - doesn't need 1.17x of distance, a normal transition like 01:33:468 (2,3) - will be better, 1.00x is a good option too, but the last decision is yours.
01:34:832 (2,3) - reduce this distance, the current movement is kinda hard for a platter diff, cause the transition between 01:34:832 (2,3) - is too linear, around 1.00x could be ok as u did on 01:47:104 (2,3) -.
01:38:411 (1,2) - reduce this distance a bit, try adding more curve to 01:38:411 (1) -, kinda weird that 01:39:774 - is stronger than 01:38:922 - but you added more distance between 01:38:411 (1,2) -.
01:53:411 (1,2) - reduce it a tiny bit, around 1.30x is better, the current jump is unconfortable.

orz, don't change the sv randomly, is hard to compare the distances uwu.

Tyrell's Utopia

00:20:002 - this break annoys me because the sound of 00:19:832 - is the same of 00:18:468 - and you enphasized it with hyper dash, that's why I think that you should finish 00:19:320 (1) - at 00:19:661 -, remove 00:20:173 (2) - and add a new slider from 00:19:832 - to 00:20:173 -.
00:21:707 - this piano sound is strong enough to be enphasized with hyperdash imo.
00:23:411 - why did shortenned the break? was it on purpose? cause only your diff have this issue.
00:38:411 - should be enphasized with a movement, I mean your slider should finish at 00:38:241 - and then a note at 00:38:411 - will follow the intruments better, take a look 00:42:843 (3,1) - as a "reference"
00:44:207 (2) - same as above.
I really like how did you created your sliders, but at 01:09:093 (1,2) - the antiflow doesn't follow the melody propertly and looks kinda weird at game, just this one, I won't bother you again with similar things.
01:11:138 (1) - I'll take this as an example because the sound of 01:11:819 - deserve a movement/little jump, as you did on 01:13:866 (1,2) -, I can imagine that you are following vocal, but the sound of 01:11:819 - is strong enough to avoid skipping them, I don't want to change your current style, it's not my intention, only as an advice, I recommend you to finish 01:11:138 (1) - at 01:11:649 - and then add a note on 01:11:819 -, It will be easy to fix.
01:12:502 (3) - 01:15:230 (3) - 01:16:593 (1) - 01:22:048 (1) - etc...
01:41:139 (1) - finish it at 01:41:649 -, add a note on 01:41:819 -, 01:41:819 - deserve a jump.
01:42:502 (1) - why slider? piano is prominent at 01:42:501 - 01:42:842 - and 01:43:183 -, so you can change 01:42:502 (1,2) - into three 1/2 sliders.
02:04:320 (1,2) - reduce the distance, why if 02:05:001 - is stronger than 02:04:831 -, 02:04:320 (1,2) - have more distance?

That's all, I really like this diff, I don't want to be picky on distances cause I respect your style, good job bro.

kds to this post pls, also I prefer to do irc on salad wih benny, cause I have some doubs, I'll poke you after my classes.

Tyrell

425 posts

Joined July 2014

Tyrell 2017-06-13T00:25:23+00:00

-Sh1n1- wrote:

General

What I want from you guys, try to be consistent from 01:11:138 - to 01:30:228 -, decide, what you want to follow, also keep in mind that the sound of 01:11:819 - shouldn't be ignored, for me is the main problem of the map and I won't nominate it unless this part is propertly fixed. (rain and platter) The sound you timestamped is properly covered by slider tails in both the Rain and Platter so i dont understand what you mean with your statement. If you would like it mapped differently, can you explain how? Also regarding consistency, i mapped my rain to follow the vocals as well as the musical emphasis that occurs from time to time. if there is any inconsistency, it is to add variation and even then it follows the music so i see nothing wrong with it.

Tyrell's Utopia

00:20:002 - this break annoys me because the sound of 00:19:832 - is the same of 00:18:468 - and you enphasized it with hyper dash, that's why I think that you should finish 00:19:320 (1) - at 00:19:661 -, remove 00:20:173 (2) - and add a new slider from 00:19:832 - to 00:20:173 -. I think these sounds should be mapped differently because the first sound you linked is different lyrically and follows a different pronunciation opposed to the one in question. i mapped the sound in question with a slider tail because it is the end of a vocal line rather than the beginning and mapping it as a beginning would mess up the flow and consistency of the patterns following it. i dont think this is a good change
00:21:707 - this piano sound is strong enough to be enphasized with hyperdash imo. sounds good.
00:23:411 - why did shortenned the break? was it on purpose? cause only your diff have this issue. this was not intentional, idk why it is like that. if i knew how to fix the break length, i would.
00:38:411 - should be enphasized with a movement, I mean your slider should finish at 00:38:241 - and then a note at 00:38:411 - will follow the intruments better, take a look 00:42:843 (3,1) - as a "reference" i think the way i mapped it suits better and follows the flow of the song better. Only reason i mapped it differently on the part you referenced is the vocal lines call for it to be mapped that way so it makes more sense to have the 1/4 jump there. without the vocals, seems a bit weird.
00:44:207 (2) - same as above. this was mapped differently purely to give more variation and emphasis to the ending of that section.
i think it fits well and plays better than mapping it similar to previous patterns.
I really like how did you created your sliders, but at 01:09:093 (1,2) - the antiflow doesn't follow the melody propertly and looks kinda weird at game, just this one, I won't bother you again with similar things. i think this fits the pattern quite well but i did reduce the distance here for leniency
01:11:138 (1) - I'll take this as an example because the sound of 01:11:819 - deserve a movement/little jump, as you did on 01:13:866 (1,2) -, I can imagine that you are following vocal, but the sound of 01:11:819 - is strong enough to avoid skipping them, I don't want to change your current style, it's not my intention, only as an advice, I recommend you to finish 01:11:138 (1) - at 01:11:649 - and then add a note on 01:11:819 -, It will be easy to fix. although your suggestion could work, i would rather keep it as is since it is following the vocal and remains consistent with other sections as well. the emphasized sting is mapped as a slider tail of similar strength to that of the slider head so i think it's fine.
01:12:502 (3) - 01:15:230 (3) - 01:16:593 (1) - 01:22:048 (1) - etc... similar reasoning to previous statement. technically it is mapped fine and i think it fits the style of the map better so no changes.
01:41:139 (1) - finish it at 01:41:649 -, add a note on 01:41:819 -, 01:41:819 - deserve a jump. slider head and tail here of equal importance so the sound is properly covered and i think this pattern fits the part well so no change
01:42:502 (1) - why slider? piano is prominent at 01:42:501 - 01:42:842 - and 01:43:183 -, so you can change 01:42:502 (1,2) - into three 1/2 sliders. makes way more sense to follow the vocals here as it's the main instrument of the song and the patterning should mainly stick to it.
02:04:320 (1,2) - reduce the distance, why if 02:05:001 - is stronger than 02:04:831 -, 02:04:320 (1,2) - have more distance? im confused here. i gave slightly larger distance to the higher pitched sound here. ;w;

That's all, I really like this diff, I don't want to be picky on distances cause I respect your style, good job bro. thank you. c:

kds to this post pls, also I prefer to do irc on salad wih benny, cause I have some doubs, I'll poke you after my classes.

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Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

Benita 2017-06-13T00:26:51+00:00

-Sh1n1- wrote:

General
What I want from you guys, try to be consistent from 01:11:138 - to 01:30:228 -, decide, what you want to follow, also keep in mind that the sound of 01:11:819 - shouldn't be ignored, for me is the main problem of the map and I won't nominate it unless this part is propertly fixed. (rain and platter) - Discussed this with Tyrell and we both seemed to agree on the way we mapped this part, to me it isn't inconsistent it just follows mainly vocal but also drums where the music suggest so. I explained it better in the specific example you pointed out in Platter.

Salad
Check you unsnapped objects.
00:00:230 (1,2) - talking about structure, press ctrl+g, I mean slider should be first and then note, it's kinda weird that you are skipping 00:00:570 - that is an important sound, if you think that 00:00:400 - is important too, you could change such 1/1 slider into 1/2 and add reverse, gap between salad an platter will be still fine cause you have a break on 00:01:082 -, it's up to you. - I'm not focusing on the background piano and I don't wanna make the intro too dense... It's already a lot more dense than kiai so I wanna try keeping it as it is if it's okay with you
00:05:684 (1,2) - yeah, we have the same case here. - Same answer as above
Patterns at Kiai between Salad and Cup are very similar - Yeah, well I mapped this Salad before Cup got added to the spread but I tried adding a few 1/1 sliders where it fit to the vocals to upper the density a bit at least but if you have any suggestions, hit me up! But I guess this is what you wanna irc about

Platter
00:10:457 (3,1) - add hyperdash, try rotating 00:10:457 (3) - and putting the head of 00:11:139 (1) - a bit to the left, it's possible cause I did on editor using 2.01x of distance, is the beginning of a new section, also is KIAI, so need more enphasis imo. - okay, although I'm not a very big fan of hypers going all across screen
00:22:048 (9,1) - keep in mind that when you normally have a break, for instinct you goes to the center, so it's recommendable to keep the first note after break or at the beginning near to the centre. - well sure but I also think that since the last note ended on left and the first note started on left that it was fine but fixed either way
00:24:775 (2,3) - such antiflow is kinda weird, I hope you will fix it with my previous advice. - yeah I guess it was fixed with the point above lol
00:37:389 (2) - should finish at 00:38:241 - imo, the piano sound of 00:38:411 - deserve a note with movement/little jump (up to you), also why is offscreen? haha it doesn't matter but it makes me laugh haha, move a bit down, it won't kill you, you know how is people nowadays, just trying to find the first mistake to ask for DQ - hahahahaha no one would DQ because of that LOL, anyhow, I don't hear any beat on the red tick and mapping inaudible sounds is very meh, even if it's to add a dash or whatever. Even so, the pitch is pretty low on the piano here where it's high pitched on the next note which is a slider so I think it's okay. Moved it a bit down though to avoid DQ over a slider outside of the playfield :^) I'm just sloppy with sliders ok sorry
aren't you using 1.50x of distance to enphasize the sound of 00:41:480 -? take a look to 00:35:684 (1,2) - and 00:37:048 (1,2) - 00:43:866 (1,2) - as a reference, so increase the distance between 00:41:139 (1,2) - pls - Was mainly because the others didn't have pretty strong vocals on the downbeat but this one did so I tried some variation. Anyway, increased the distance
00:51:706 (3,4) - vs 00:47:615 (3,4) - increase or decrease, up to you, but keep consistency. - Decreased
01:01:933 (2,3,4,1) - why if 01:02:956 - is stronger than the rest, you are using the same distance there? two options: 01:01:933 (2,3,4) - move to the left, decrease distance of 01:01:933 (2,3) - around -0.30x/-0.20x.- Fixed
01:06:024 (2,3,4,1) - same here, increase gradually the distance between each object to follow the instruments propertly, for me 01:07:047 - is more important than bells on 01:06:365 - and 01:06:706 -, and if you don't think so, I wanna ask you, what happens at 01:05:683 -? :p - Fixed
from 01:11:138 - to 01:30:228 - you have the same problem as Rain, the intrument at 01:11:819 - is strong enough to be enphasized with a little jump as you did on 01:12:502 (1,2) -.- ah, the difference between 01:11:138 (2) - and 01:12:502 (1,2) - is that on the first one, the vocal is holding but on the second one the there's a vocal on the red tick. And as I explained before, I don't like putting sliders on inaudible beats just to get a dash so I would like to keep it as it is if it's possible
01:31:593 (1) - nope, too short to be a spinner, change it into slider please or remove 01:32:616 (1) - and finish your spinner at 01:32:615 - for consistency with salad. - ok ):
01:32:616 (1,1) - hyperdash pls.- yes
01:32:957 (1,2) - doesn't need 1.17x of distance, a normal transition like 01:33:468 (2,3) - will be better, 1.00x is a good option too, but the last decision is yours. - 1.00x distance
01:34:832 (2,3) - reduce this distance, the current movement is kinda hard for a platter diff, cause the transition between 01:34:832 (2,3) - is too linear, around 1.00x could be ok as u did on 01:47:104 (2,3) -. - 1.00x distance
01:38:411 (1,2) - reduce this distance a bit, try adding more curve to 01:38:411 (1) -, kinda weird that 01:39:774 - is stronger than 01:38:922 - but you added more distance between 01:38:411 (1,2) -. - 1.00x distance
01:53:411 (1,2) - reduce it a tiny bit, around 1.30x is better, the current jump is unconfortable. - yes

orz, don't change the sv randomly, is hard to compare the distances uwu. - but they are needed or else the sliders are all over the map uwu count grids instead XDDDD

kds to this post pls, also I prefer to do irc on salad wih benny, cause I have some doubs, I'll poke you after my classes.

Thanks! All diffs updated!

F D Flourite

811 posts

Joined March 2013

F D Flourite 2017-07-12T15:02:31+00:00

what happened lol

-Sh1n1-

3,404 posts

Joined September 2012

-Sh1n1- 2017-07-13T03:26:55+00:00

F D Flourite wrote:
what happened lol

Nothing, I tried to avoid being picky on the last diff but... I told benny what I think, that's why I modded Akikaze no answer instead of this, if you wanna check this map, go ahead.

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,252 posts

Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2017-08-25T21:45:50+00:00

2017-08-25 16:57 Ascendance: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1109454 Mili - Utopiosphere -Platonism- [Salad]]
2017-08-25 16:57 Ascendance: wowee
2017-08-25 16:57 Benny-: hahae
2017-08-25 16:57 Benny-: kidding
2017-08-25 16:57 Ascendance: are these supposed to be dashes 00:05:514 (5,1) -  lol
2017-08-25 16:58 Benny-: no idea
2017-08-25 16:58 Benny-: :D
2017-08-25 16:58 Ascendance: :D
2017-08-25 16:59 Ascendance: well
2017-08-25 16:59 Ascendance: tbh in this early section where it's quiet
2017-08-25 16:59 Benny-: I guess no?
2017-08-25 16:59 Ascendance: they shouldnt be dashes anyway so
2017-08-25 16:59 Ascendance: id probably reduce these a bit
2017-08-25 16:59 Benny-: yeah
2017-08-25 16:59 Ascendance: like 00:01:423 (5,1) - 
2017-08-25 17:00 Ascendance: 00:02:786 (3,1) - etc
2017-08-25 17:00 Ascendance: if you want me to wait for you to do that i can
2017-08-25 17:01 Benny-: fuck no im fast
2017-08-25 17:01 Benny-: done
2017-08-25 17:02 Ascendance: 00:13:866 (1) - i hate this slidershape, it doesnt play too nice
2017-08-25 17:02 Ascendance: maybe make it similar to 00:12:502 (3) - 
2017-08-25 17:03 Benny-: oko
2017-08-25 17:03 Ascendance: 00:15:230 (2,1) - maybe no dash here? 
2017-08-25 17:05 Benny-: uh
2017-08-25 17:06 Benny-: i removed dash 00:13:866 (1,2) - instead i feel since the music is stronger 00:16:593 (1) -
2017-08-25 17:07 Ascendance: kk
2017-08-25 17:07 Ascendance: not sure im a fan of 00:17:957 (3,4) - 
2017-08-25 17:07 Ascendance: 00:17:957 (3) - points to the right and 4 creates antiflow where it isn't really needed
2017-08-25 17:09 Benny-: okay what u suggest
2017-08-25 17:10 Benny-: i do
2017-08-25 17:10 Benny-: here
2017-08-25 17:10 Ascendance: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8934865
2017-08-25 17:12 Benny-: okay
2017-08-25 17:12 Ascendance: 00:41:139 (1,2) - kinda squished together
2017-08-25 17:14 Benny-: ok fixed
2017-08-25 17:14 Ascendance: 00:42:843 (1) - slidershape is ?
2017-08-25 17:14 Benny-: beautiful
2017-08-25 17:14 Benny-: it's art
2017-08-25 17:14 Ascendance: interesting
2017-08-25 17:14 Ascendance: LOL
2017-08-25 17:14 Ascendance: can you at least ifx the bottom half so there's movement
2017-08-25 17:15 Benny-: are you questioning my art
2017-08-25 17:15 Ascendance: si
2017-08-25 17:15 Benny-: it's a reverse question mark
2017-08-25 17:15 Benny-: ohgod now i wanna make a question mark
2017-08-25 17:16 Ascendance: oh god please no
2017-08-25 17:17 Benny-: okay made it more ugly
2017-08-25 17:17 Benny-: it looks like a 5 now
2017-08-25 17:17 Benny-: literally
2017-08-25 17:18 Ascendance: is there a reason it's nc'd btw
2017-08-25 17:19 Benny-: yes
2017-08-25 17:20 Ascendance: y
2017-08-25 17:20 Benny-: all the sliders hold a whole measure
2017-08-25 17:20 Benny-: almost
2017-08-25 17:20 Ascendance: o ok
2017-08-25 17:20 Ascendance: 00:48:298 (3,1) - only one in this section that's close to a dash, reduce reduce
2017-08-25 17:21 Benny-: ok
2017-08-25 17:22 Ascendance: 00:52:048 (2) - x370 would be nice to make it not so squished
2017-08-25 17:25 Benny-: almost but not quite
2017-08-25 17:25 Benny-: moved the slider end a bit futher away as well as moving that note tiny bit to the right
2017-08-25 17:26 Ascendance: 01:02:275 (3,1) - a dash between these would be naisu
2017-08-25 17:26 Benny-: how do you like my hitsounds
2017-08-25 17:26 Benny-: you love them right
2017-08-25 17:26 Benny-: yeah ik they are nice
2017-08-25 17:26 Ascendance: they are o k
2017-08-25 17:27 Benny-: better than yours
2017-08-25 17:27 Benny-: but done
2017-08-25 17:27 Ascendance: T_T
2017-08-25 17:28 Ascendance: 01:37:048 (3,1) - seems like you wanted it to be a dash but its walkable
2017-08-25 17:29 Benny-: ok now they are not
2017-08-25 17:29 Benny-: walkable
2017-08-25 17:29 Ascendance: 01:40:798 (4,1) - seems like it shouldn't be a dash but it is
2017-08-25 17:31 Benny-: i think it fits ):
2017-08-25 17:31 Ascendance: g
2017-08-25 17:32 Ascendance: ok no more salad
2017-08-25 17:32 Ascendance: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1108911 Mili - Utopiosphere -Platonism- [Platter]]
2017-08-25 17:32 Benny-: okay
2017-08-25 17:32 Ascendance: 00:00:230 (1,2) - not sure a wiggle is the best way to start off a platter
2017-08-25 17:32 Ascendance: you could probably exchange it for another pattern and use the wiggle later on 
2017-08-25 17:33 Benny-: thats not even a wiggle u can stand in the middle
2017-08-25 17:33 Benny-: reeeee
2017-08-25 17:33 Benny-: :(
2017-08-25 17:33 Ascendance: a noob wouldnt know that tho
2017-08-25 17:33 Benny-: im kidding
2017-08-25 17:33 Ascendance: :')
2017-08-25 17:33 Benny-: changed it
2017-08-25 17:34 Ascendance: 00:07:389 (2) - could use some more right tilt
2017-08-25 17:34 Benny-: ok
2017-08-25 17:35 Ascendance: 00:35:002 (3,4) - could be a nice dash, if you wanna increase the distanc ee
2017-08-25 17:36 Benny-: i already play it as a dash
2017-08-25 17:36 Benny-: :thinking:
2017-08-25 17:36 Ascendance: i walked it
2017-08-25 17:36 Ascendance: but i meant more like
2017-08-25 17:36 Benny-: i know
2017-08-25 17:36 Ascendance: its similar distance to the others so increasing it would be a nicer indicator of stronger sounds
2017-08-25 17:36 Benny-: what you mean
2017-08-25 17:37 Benny-: i just dont wanna overdo the distance in a calm part
2017-08-25 17:37 Ascendance: like maybe 4 -> x355
2017-08-25 17:38 Benny-: lol most people want to remove that pattern
2017-08-25 17:38 Benny-: and you wanna increase it xD
2017-08-25 17:39 Benny-: that is like, what literally everyone point out
2017-08-25 17:39 Ascendance: i'mcooler
2017-08-25 17:39 Benny-: "remove dashes here"
2017-08-25 17:39 Benny-: so i think i'll keep it as it is :S
2017-08-25 17:39 Ascendance: :(
2017-08-25 17:39 Benny-: i think i increased it a tiny bit though
2017-08-25 17:39 Ascendance: 00:36:025 (2,3,1) - similar issue as salad, feels a bit too crunched together
2017-08-25 17:40 Benny-: but not much
2017-08-25 17:40 Ascendance: 00:37:048 (1) - could maybe use some emphasis as well if you wanted
2017-08-25 17:41 Benny-: okay
2017-08-25 17:41 Ascendance: 00:42:332 (4,1) - strong sound on 1 but only a walk ooooooo
2017-08-25 17:43 Benny-: fixed
2017-08-25 17:43 Ascendance: 01:15:229 (1) - ugly slider shape T_T
2017-08-25 17:43 Ascendance: a normal C-cuve woulda been betterrrrr
2017-08-25 17:43 Benny-: no it's beautiful
2017-08-25 17:44 Benny-: no but problem here is like
2017-08-25 17:44 Benny-: if i fuck up one distance i have to redo all after lool
2017-08-25 17:44 Ascendance: well
2017-08-25 17:44 Ascendance: rest is fine for me

Sorceress

332 posts

Joined September 2012

Sorceress 2017-09-03T04:39:23+00:00

Hey, here with another mod for you in my quest to be active

[

General]

Background: It's a bit low res and looks a little blurry so I've gone ahead and done a favourite new trick of mine. I've upscaled it with waifu2x and then used Photoshop to quickly sharpen it a little and resized to 1920x1080. So here it is. There's a tiny warp in the aspect ratio from upscaling and then downscaling a tad but I think there's a noticeable increase in the overall quality, especially when looking at the character outlines.

[

Nelly's Cup]
Apologies for the nazi distance mod!

00:07:389 (1) - There's a huge lack of distance to this where you have previously used around 1.80x ds. I'd try make this slider start around x:192, a C shaped slider should work well.
You'll want to make sure to increase the distance to 00:08:752 (1) - as well to roughly the same amount
I've noticed this Kiai section feels very by the right edge of the playfield so before applying any of the suggestions below I'd highly recommend to make some more room. Select all of 00:00:230 (1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,3) - and move it a little left to x:128. All these suggestions below are for the Kiai and follow on from one another
1. 00:11:139 (1) - Really needs more distance to this as this is a very strong sound starting off this Kiai section. Try moving this to x:352
2. 00:12:502 (2) - Move this to x:208 to bring it back closer to 00:11:139 (1) -
3. 00:13:866 (1) - This could do with more emphasis, try x:368
4. 00:15:230 (2) - I'd move this to x:224 and make it a C shaped slider so it curves out to the left and ends in the same position it starts
5. 00:16:593 (1,2) - There's very little movement between these two sliders and during them as they are not tilted very much. I'd suggest to Ctrl+H on 00:16:593 (1) - and move it to x:384 and then make it a tiny bit more horizontal. After that if you move 00:17:957 (2) - to x:240 and make it quite a bit more horizontal. This contrasts the higher pitch vocal of 00:17:957 (2) - against the lower pitch vocal of 00:16:593 (1) -
6. 00:19:320 (1) - Adjust the head of this slider to start at x:384 and tweak the curve so it still ends in roughly the same place
00:41:139 (1) - I think this sound would benefit from more emphasis here, try get the distance to this to around 2.19x ds
00:43:866 (1,2,3) - I feel like 00:43:866 (1,2) - deserves a greater distance than 00:44:207 (2,3) - because of the rising pitch at the start of this compared to the falling at the end. Try moving 00:43:866 (1) - to x:240 and 00:45:570 (3) - to x:272. If you had to move these from applying the above point then just try get the distance of 00:43:866 (1,2) - to about 1.96x ds and the distance of 00:44:207 (2,3) - to 1.40x ds
00:47:957 (2,1) - I'd recommend to increase the distance to 00:48:639 (1) - here, it's currently almost the same as the distance between 00:46:593 (1,2) - and I think it deserves more emphasis, same goes for 00:50:003 (2,1) - and 00:52:047 (2,1) -
01:16:593 (1) - Maybe add an anchor point to this slider to curve it a little to make the movement a bit more comfortable
01:22:048 (1) - I'd emphasise this a little more, try moving to x:304
01:24:774 (1) - Same here, try x:192
01:26:138 (2) - Could also make this a little more comfortable by adding a slight curve, same with 01:28:866 (3) - and 01:41:139 (1) -
01:46:592 (1) - I'd move the repeating anchor on this slider one grid to the left just to add a little more contrast with 01:45:230 (2) -

[

Salad]

It could well be worth using tickrate 1 here, there's a few jumps in to some uncomfortable sliders used throughout this difficulty that would be more forgiving to players at this level on tickrate 1 compared to 2
My main concern looking at this difficulty is I'm really not sure where the dashes are supposed to be. There's a lot of distances that are very comfortably walked. All of 00:30:230 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - up until the dash at 00:41:139 (1) - is very easy to do without dashing and then it continues on for all of 00:41:480 (2,1,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2) - until 00:54:775 (1) -
Now it could be those are the only two dashes you intended to have here but then I feel like there's missed dash opportunities like to 00:48:638 (1) - 00:50:684 (1) - and 00:52:729 (1) -
Distances like 01:02:275 (3,1) - feel weak, it's not gonna be easy for a player at this level to walk it but it's still not a great movement. It's notes like these that I feel would benefit from a larger distance and a more comfortable slider shape
Maybe I'm just being silly here but I'd recommend going through this difficulty and more clearly defining dash distances, really sorry for being so vague
00:16:593 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This section feels very repetitive to play, 00:17:957 (3,4) - is incredibly similar to 00:16:593 (1,2) - that comes right before it but is just further to the right in the playfield. I think if you made 00:16:593 (1) - and 00:17:957 (3) - repeaters you could avoid this repetitiveness of dashing left in to a slider, following it and walking to the right until another dash and doing the same thing again about four times in a row
00:20:684 (3,4) - I don't feel like a direction change to 00:22:048 (4) - fits too well. I'd recommend adjusting the curve of 00:20:684 (3) - so it ends a bit more to the left of the playfield and then flipping 00:22:048 (4) -
01:09:093 (1) - I'd split this, end it at 01:09:774 - and then add a note on 01:10:115 - with a dash to it as it's quite a strong note
01:30:911 (2) - That's a really loud clap! Or at least it sounds loud considering the context of it, maybe reduce the HS volume here? Same would go for all diffs

[

Platter]

00:05:684 (1,2) - This is being quite picky but compared to the overall distancing and SV used in this intro the SV on these fully horizontal (or close enough to it) sliders feels a bit high. I'd recommend to tilt these a little more, same for 00:09:775 (1,2) -
00:21:366 (5,6,7,8) - Maybe move 00:21:536 (6,7) - a bit further to the left to contrast the louder piano sounds with the quiter ones at 00:20:684 (1,2,3,4) -
01:54:774 - Distancing in this outro feels a bit ambiguous. The intro consistently uses about 2.0x ds dashes whereas this outro uses a few different ds values such as 1.51x at 02:00:229 (1) - which feels rather ambiguous. For the distances around 1.50x ds I'd recommend either nerfing them to about 1.40x ds if they're intended to be walks or buffing to at least 1.80x ds if they're intended to be dashes

[

Tyrell's Utopia]

00:15:911 (1,2,3,4) - I'd increase the spacing between these a little bit. The distance is a little low at the moment causing for a slightly awkward movement when slowing the catcher down whilst still moving in the same direction
00:53:582 (2,3,4,5) - I could be crazy but the distance between these feels lower than what you've used previously when compared to 00:49:491 (2,3,4,5) -
01:21:707 (7,8) - Nazi distance man strikes again. Any reason for the ever so slightly lower distancing to these compared to the rest of the pattern? Would be nice to bring them in line with the rest
01:47:957 (1,2,3,4) - This feels really uncalled for to me, I'd really recommend to rework this pattern and remove the hypers to 01:48:298 (2) - and 01:48:980 (4) -

Hope this helps!

Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

Benita 2017-09-03T20:42:40+00:00

Sorcerer wrote:
Hey, here with another mod for you in my quest to be active

[ General]
Background: It's a bit low res and looks a little blurry so I've gone ahead and done a favourite new trick of mine. I've upscaled it with waifu2x and then used Photoshop to quickly sharpen it a little and resized to 1920x1080. So here it is. There's a tiny warp in the aspect ratio from upscaling and then downscaling a tad but I think there's a noticeable increase in the overall quality, especially when looking at the character outlines. nice cool thanks
[ Salad]
It could well be worth using tickrate 1 here, there's a few jumps in to some uncomfortable sliders used throughout this difficulty that would be more forgiving to players at this level on tickrate 1 compared to 2 well then, made it tickrate 1
My main concern looking at this difficulty is I'm really not sure where the dashes are supposed to be. There's a lot of distances that are very comfortably walked. All of 00:30:230 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - up until the dash at 00:41:139 (1) - is very easy to do without dashing and then it continues on for all of 00:41:480 (2,1,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2) - until 00:54:775 (1) -
Now it could be those are the only two dashes you intended to have here but then I feel like there's missed dash opportunities like to 00:48:638 (1) - 00:50:684 (1) - and 00:52:729 (1) - was actually intended cause i felt that was the most intense of a very calm part but I tried adding some dashes as well
Distances like 01:02:275 (3,1) - feel weak, it's not gonna be easy for a player at this level to walk it but it's still not a great movement. It's notes like these that I feel would benefit from a larger distance and a more comfortable slider shape
Maybe I'm just being silly here but I'd recommend going through this difficulty and more clearly defining dash distances, really sorry for being so vague went through the map a bit I guess

00:16:593 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This section feels very repetitive to play, 00:17:957 (3,4) - is incredibly similar to 00:16:593 (1,2) - that comes right before it but is just further to the right in the playfield. I think if you made 00:16:593 (1) - and 00:17:957 (3) - repeaters you could avoid this repetitiveness of dashing left in to a slider, following it and walking to the right until another dash and doing the same thing again about four times in a row fixed up the kiai a bit
00:20:684 (3,4) - I don't feel like a direction change to 00:22:048 (4) - fits too well. I'd recommend adjusting the curve of 00:20:684 (3) - so it ends a bit more to the left of the playfield and then flipping 00:22:048 (4) - already fixed while i fixed up stuff
01:09:093 (1) - I'd split this, end it at 01:09:774 - and then add a note on 01:10:115 - with a dash to it as it's quite a strong note ok
01:30:911 (2) - That's a really loud clap! Or at least it sounds loud considering the context of it, maybe reduce the HS volume here? Same would go for all diffs i think its fine, the song is bulding up here so
[ Platter]
00:05:684 (1,2) - This is being quite picky but compared to the overall distancing and SV used in this intro the SV on these fully horizontal (or close enough to it) sliders feels a bit high. I'd recommend to tilt these a little more, same for 00:09:775 (1,2) - ehhh i think it's fine lmao
00:21:366 (5,6,7,8) - Maybe move 00:21:536 (6,7) - a bit further to the left to contrast the louder piano sounds with the quiter ones at 00:20:684 (1,2,3,4) -
01:54:774 - Distancing in this outro feels a bit ambiguous. The intro consistently uses about 2.0x ds dashes whereas this outro uses a few different ds values such as 1.51x at 02:00:229 (1) - which feels rather ambiguous. For the distances around 1.50x ds I'd recommend either nerfing them to about 1.40x ds if they're intended to be walks or buffing to at least 1.80x ds if they're intended to be dashes okay lmao
Hope this helps!

Thanks!!

Tyrell

425 posts

Joined July 2014

Tyrell 2017-09-04T20:41:25+00:00

Sorcerer wrote:
Hey, here with another mod for you in my quest to be active

Tyrell's Utopia
00:15:911 (1,2,3,4) - I'd increase the spacing between these a little bit. The distance is a little low at the moment causing for a slightly awkward movement when slowing the catcher down whilst still moving in the same direction I agree, changed.
00:53:582 (2,3,4,5) - I could be crazy but the distance between these feels lower than what you've used previously when compared to 00:49:491 (2,3,4,5) - the distances are actually larger than the previous pattern but I guess you hear the music and expect it to be more intense. I could increase distance here but I feel it could make it a bit too much and seem like a random spike.
01:21:707 (7,8) - Nazi distance man strikes again. Any reason for the ever so slightly lower distancing to these compared to the rest of the pattern? Would be nice to bring them in line with the rest it's okay, i fixed to make it more consistent.
01:47:957 (1,2,3,4) - This feels really uncalled for to me, I'd really recommend to rework this pattern and remove the hypers to 01:48:298 (2) - and 01:48:980 (4) -although i can see your reasoning i think this pattern fits because all the hypers to the heads of the sliders are on important vocal lines. Combine this with the fact that this is the most intense part of the song musically and lyrically, in my opinion, i think this pattern although a bit forced, fits well here.
Hope this helps!

Thanks for the mod.

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Nelly

Beatmap Nominator

1,533 posts

Joined August 2014

Nelly 2017-09-13T14:27:44+00:00

Thanks for the mod Sorcerer! Unfortunately I forgot some suggestions where I denied but I fixed most of the stuff you wrote. pls dont bully me benny ):

Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

Benita 2017-09-13T20:31:46+00:00

Nelly wrote:
Thanks for the mod Sorcerer! Unfortunately I forgot some suggestions where I denied but I fixed most of the stuff you wrote. pls dont bully me benny ):

Gonna bully you for life
~~Will update when I'm home~~ updated

MBomb

MBomb 2017-09-29T04:46:59+00:00

Out of nowhere, an MBomb mod.

[Cup]

00:11:139 (1) - The sudden intensity change here calls for more emphasis in my opinion, especially considering it's the introduction of the kiai. x:376 helps to give it that kick.
00:19:320 (1) - Higher distancing for the very strong high pitch vocal here could be nice. x:456 works.
00:35:684 (1,2,3) - Such a small distance to this section is kinda anticlimatic in my opinion. x:408 on this section would feel better.
00:41:139 (1) - Higher distance for sudden vocal pitch change would fit well, maybe do x:136.
01:27:502 (1) - Such small distancing here also doesn't sound very good to me with the song, x:216 would feel a lot nicer to play with the song.
01:52:048 (1) - Pretty strong vocal, stronger distance could be nice, x:176 is fitting.

[Salad]

00:16:593 (1) - Pretty strong sound here, a dash would fit nicely I feel, x:96 maybe?
00:24:775 (2) - That's quite strong distancing for a vocal that isn't even really that strong. x:312 would be more comfortable.
00:32:275 (3) - Pretty strong distancing here too, might want to reduce slightly to like x:216.
00:54:775 (1) - Dash to this could work nicely for the section change and strong vocal to accompany it. Try x:72 with a shape like this.
00:56:480 (4) - Pretty difficult to hit the next note due to the strength of the backforth, maybe try reducing it to like x:184.
00:58:866 (1) - Quite a strong vocal, maybe try a dash to it by moving this to x:88.
01:01:934 (2) - Again, a pretty strong distance backforth, quite difficult to hit for a salad player. Try x:136 instead.
01:02:957 (1) - Dash to this would be really fitting for the strong sound here and section change, x:24 would make it sound really good.
01:05:002 (1) - Pretty strong distancing for a sound which doesn't feel particularly strong compared to other vocals where you have normal distancing. x:104 would be comfortable.
01:09:093 (1,2) - Firstly, I feel as though 1 is a pretty strong vocal, so maybe try something like x:56 to add a dash to it, and secondly, I feel as though the timeline here would better reflect the song if it was a 1/2 repeat slider followed by a circle, to better reflect the vocals here.
01:16:593 (1) - The movement here feels like it should reflect a dash, but the distance is smaller than most dash distances throughout the map, which could throw a player off into thinking this is just a bigger normal movement. x:176 helps to balance out that.
01:24:775 (1) - A dash to this could be nice for the higher pitch vocal emphasis here, x:416 would add in a nice dash I feel.
01:31:592 (1) - I feel as though a dash for this would fit nicely as this is really when the high pitch vocal starts to kick in. x:72 would be a good placement.
01:32:957 (1) - Dash for the start of kiai would be a nice way to emphasise the strong introduction into this section. x:112 fits it well.
01:41:819 (2,1) - I feel like the distancing to 2 right now is a bit strong, and a normal movement would work better to feel nice with the buildup here, so a movement of this section to like, x:464, would be great.
01:56:139 (2) - Not really a fan of how big the distancing to this is, it's not that strong of a note, a smaller distancing would feel nicer to play.

Really nice salad actually! <3

[Platter]

00:54:093 (4) - I think a bigger distance to this would really help to emphasise the drums here more. Maybe try x:424?
01:41:139 (1) - A bit of a strong HDash to this right now. May be better to move the head to x:132 whilst changing the slider to have it end in the same place it currently does, for flow.
01:42:502 (1) - Same as above, except this time move the head to x:176.
01:43:866 (1) - And with this one too, except x:376.
01:47:956 (1) - Could be nice to weaken this HDash a bit to x:196, to make the movements after it slightly more lenient.
01:52:048 (1) - Try to adjust this slider a bit so the tail ends in the same place but the head is at around x:364, the weaker HDash can make flow feel nicer for a platter player.
01:53:410 (1) - Same as above, but x:348 on this one.
02:05:513 (6) - Dash to this feels nice to me as a finisher of the map, considering the high pitch on that note. x:496?

[Utopia]

00:21:707 (3,4) - Slightly weaker HDash strength to this could make that direction change feel a bit smoother, maybe reduce it to like x:440?
00:35:343 - Maybe make a note on this piano, even if it's just a slider end for a 1/2 slider on 4, would sound nice to me.
00:41:139 (1) - HDash to this could be nice for the sudden strong high vocal, however it would take some rearranging of the next slider to make it feel comfortable (Moving this to x:24 makes the HDash, however the harder part is making the next part flow well after that).
00:54:093 (4) - Would feel pretty nice to make this distancing a little bigger, to emphasise those drums more with a back-forth dash there. x:368 would work.
01:02:957 (1) - Maybe do a HDash to this for the section change. x:60 makes a HDash, and then you can just rearrange the slider slightly to make the next part feel nice to play.
01:09:093 (1,2) - Would also work to have a HDash to 2 there, both for the strong vocal, and emphasis on the end of the section like you did at 00:44:207 (2,3) - .1 on x:112 and 2 on x:496 accomplishes this really nicely.

Amazing mapping Tyrell, I love it.

Call me back.

Tyrell

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Tyrell 2017-09-29T06:24:45+00:00

- Magic Bomb - wrote:
[Utopia]

00:21:707 (3,4) - Slightly weaker HDash strength to this could make that direction change feel a bit smoother, maybe reduce it to like x:440? okie.
00:35:343 - Maybe make a note on this piano, even if it's just a slider end for a 1/2 slider on 4, would sound nice to me. it's so quiet and isnt the focus of this section of the song so i feel like puttting a note here is weird.
00:41:139 (1) - HDash to this could be nice for the sudden strong high vocal, however it would take some rearranging of the next slider to make it feel comfortable (Moving this to x:24 makes the HDash, however the harder part is making the next part flow well after that). i see how a hyper could fit but it would play better as either a double dash or hyper into dash and i feel like a hyper into dash would be too uncomfortable and feel odd compared to the rest of the map.
00:54:093 (4) - Would feel pretty nice to make this distancing a little bigger, to emphasise those drums more with a back-forth dash there. x:368 would work. okie
01:02:957 (1) - Maybe do a HDash to this for the section change. x:60 makes a HDash, and then you can just rearrange the slider slightly to make the next part feel nice to play. triggering a HDash at this spacing of 1/1 is really hard, and i dont think it fits the previous patterns too well.
01:09:093 (1,2) - Would also work to have a HDash to 2 there, both for the strong vocal, and emphasis on the end of the section like you did at 00:44:207 (2,3) - .1 on x:112 and 2 on x:496 accomplishes this really nicely. works fine and really brings out the end of the section.

Amazing mapping Tyrell, I love it. thank you very much. glad to see someone likes it.

Call me back.

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Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

Benita 2017-09-29T15:19:28+00:00

Everything applied except 02:05:513 (6) - in platter, don't think it fits with a dash here. Direction change is enough.

Thanks for modding!

Nelly

Beatmap Nominator

1,533 posts

Joined August 2014

Nelly 2017-09-29T18:30:04+00:00

I accepted everything. Thanks again mbomb!

when you came back home but benny is kicking my giant lazy ass to accept these 6 suggestion of yours

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Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

Benita 2017-09-29T18:34:36+00:00

All updated!

MBomb

MBomb 2017-09-29T22:20:50+00:00

Rechecking.

[Cup]

00:56:820 (1) - Quite a strong vocal here, the lack of distancing to it feels a little strange, maybe increase it to like x:368.

[Salad]

00:15:230 (1) - A dash to this could be fitting. Try x:224 on this for similar distancing to what you've done for other 1/2 dashes in the map.
01:09:093 (1) - Dash to this for the strong vocal would also be pretty nice, try x:56 with a different curve to keep flow afterwards the same.
01:19:320 (1) - A pretty strong non-dash distancing to this as it is now. Reducing it a bit, to x:320, would be a lot more comfortable for a salad player.

Other 2 diffs seem fine to me.

Nelly

Beatmap Nominator

1,533 posts

Joined August 2014

Nelly 2017-09-30T07:38:07+00:00

accepted

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Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

Benita 2017-09-30T10:00:58+00:00

all applied and all updated!

MBomb

MBomb 2017-09-30T19:26:20+00:00

Went through some minor changes to dash movements in IRC, I think everything's fine now.

Bubbled <3

lupuGG

34 posts

Joined April 2015

lupuGG 2017-10-01T12:51:58+00:00

shitmap benny is girl pls no rank girl is objective they do not associate with ranking criteria aka man, i miss 1 note omg very bad!
jk <3 gl with rank

Electoz

Beatmap Nominator

1,895 posts

Joined May 2015

Electoz 2017-10-05T03:50:35+00:00

Is there any way to get a better mp3 than the current one lol
Also metadata pls I don't think anything can go wrong but just in case.

[Nelly's Cup]

00:50:684 (1,2,1,2) - Could've applied the symmetric pattern idea from what you did with 00:46:593 (1,2,1,2) tho?
01:02:956 (1) - Shouldn't this be a 2/1 slider like 00:54:775 (1) considering that the vocal at 01:03:297 is not really significant to be mapped.
01:05:002 (3) - NC? Since there's one at 00:56:820 (1) which has a similar rhythm. Or removing the NC on 00:56:820 (1) also works.
01:45:230 (2) - Ctrl+H? Since you don't usually do anti-flows in kiais anyways

[Salad]

00:15:059 (4) - Can be removed? Most of your rhythms previously in that kiai are focused on vocals tho so this one stood out.
00:30:059 - A circle can be added here too if you want to follow the vocal.
00:42:843 (1) - Any reason for using trickier movements? Because most of your long slider stuff in this section are plainly curved ones and not complicated as this. (it’s not like you did something special here in platter either zzz)
00:48:638 (1) - ^
01:06:366 (3,1) - Was expecting a larger spacing on this like what you did consistently earlier every 4 measures 00:54:093 (2,1) - 00:58:184 (4,1) - 01:02:275 (3,1) .
01:34:320 (3) - NC
01:37:048 (1) - 2/1 slider + circle work better since the vocal fades at 01:37:728 .
01:42:501 (1,2) - Could be a 2/1 slider instead with the similar vocal reasoning as above.

[Platter]

00:02:957 (1,2) - Would be nice if you can make this flow in the same way as what you did with other pairs 00:00:230 (1,2) - 00:01:593 (1,2) - 00:05:684 (1,2) - etc
00:04:661 (2,3,4) - You hitsounded these differently from other measures but there's no difference in mapping at all zzz, same goes for Salad tho
00:07:730 (3) - Variation is one thing but the way you did this is too random. Since this is the only time (compared to other measures) which you did a repeat slider instead of 4 circles but the rhythm here isn't any different.
00:48:297 (4,1) - mmm spacing could be a bit bigger, just like 00:52:388 (4,1) .
01:18:639 (2,1) - 01:20:002 (2,1) - Bigger spacings on these would be nice too to make those downbeats more highlighted.
01:55:457 (5) - You emphasized this but not in other places in later measures which have a similar rhythm like 01:56:819 - 01:58:183 - 01:59:547 - etc so you might wanna take a look at those

00:22:048 - 00:38:752 - 01:15:228 - 01:50:683 - 01:53:410 - Also you NC'd these differently between Salad and Platter in case you want to check whether any one of these is not intentional

[Tyrell's Utopia]

00:27:502 (3,1) - Swap NC?
00:28:866 (4,1) - ^ cuz downbeat reasoning
00:31:593 (3) - Could NC here too considering you NC'd everything in this section every 1 measure.
00:38:752 (3) - ^
00:42:843 (3,1) - Could do a bigger spacing like what you did when 1/2 rhythms are happening at downbeats like 00:36:877 (3,1) - 00:39:605 (5,1) - 00:42:332 (4,1) .
01:21:195 (4,5) - Optional; a dash can be added here to emphasize 01:21:366 (5) .
01:36:707 (3) - Is this hyperdash intentional? For now I'll assume it's not since you didn't do this in other places like 01:35:343 (3) - 01:40:798 (3) - 01:46:252 (3) - 01:47:616 (3) - where your hyperdashes don't exist after 2 1/1 sliders.
02:00:741 (2,3) - Can you add more spacing on this for emphasis like what you did in other measures 01:55:286 (4,5) - 01:56:650 (2,3) - 01:59:377 (2,3) - etc

Regardless of what you have fixed, it'll be a rebubble, since I'm still on probation obviously.

Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

Benita 2017-10-05T11:18:02+00:00

Electoz wrote:
Is there any way to get a better mp3 than the current one lol I can try finding one lmao
Also metadata pls I don't think anything can go wrong but just in case. Can put it in description but here: http://projectmili.com/miracle-milk

[Salad]

00:15:059 (4) - Can be removed? Most of your rhythms previously in that kiai are focused on vocals tho so this one stood out. ok
00:30:059 - A circle can be added here too if you want to follow the vocal. ok
00:42:843 (1) - Any reason for using trickier movements? Because most of your long slider stuff in this section are plainly curved ones and not complicated as this. (it’s not like you did something special here in platter either zzz) eh mostly cause of variation, but platter has jumps and stuff surrounding the sliders where Salad doesn't really offer much so I thought it was cool to add some variation amongs the sliders instead
00:48:638 (1) - ^ same as above
01:06:366 (3,1) - Was expecting a larger spacing on this like what you did consistently earlier every 4 measures 00:54:093 (2,1) - 00:58:184 (4,1) - 01:02:275 (3,1) . ok
01:34:320 (3) - NC ok
01:37:048 (1) - 2/1 slider + circle work better since the vocal fades at 01:37:728 . ok
01:42:501 (1,2) - Could be a 2/1 slider instead with the similar vocal reasoning as above. the vocal isn't the same as above and the usage of 1/1 sliders is for the buildup for the kiai reset
[Platter]

00:02:957 (1,2) - Would be nice if you can make this flow in the same way as what you did with other pairs 00:00:230 (1,2) - 00:01:593 (1,2) - 00:05:684 (1,2) - etc but why? do all sliders have to be the same
00:04:661 (2,3,4) - You hitsounded these differently from other measures but there's no difference in mapping at all zzz, same goes for Salad tho ehhh that's because the hitsounds were added AFTER the map was finished... I think it's a cute hitsound but I don't really think the change in the music is noticeable enough to make a drastical change but if you have something in mind please do tell me!
00:07:730 (3) - Variation is one thing but the way you did this is too random. Since this is the only time (compared to other measures) which you did a repeat slider instead of 4 circles but the rhythm here isn't any different. added a repeat like that before the bell hitsound so now I have a valid reason for it being there and we can call it consistent!!!
00:48:297 (4,1) - mmm spacing could be a bit bigger, just like 00:52:388 (4,1) . 00:52:729 - is a lot more intense of a sound than 00:48:638 -
01:18:639 (2,1) - 01:20:002 (2,1) - Bigger spacings on these would be nice too to make those downbeats more highlighted. ok
01:55:457 (5) - You emphasized this but not in other places in later measures which have a similar rhythm like 01:56:819 - 01:58:183 - 01:59:547 - etc so you might wanna take a look at those if you listen to where I put the whistles, that's the beats i was emphasising, they're placed on the background piano cause i think a simple dash on every 1/2 slider is boring :3
00:22:048 - 00:38:752 - 01:15:228 - 01:50:683 - 01:53:410 - Also you NC'd these differently between Salad and Platter in case you want to check whether any one of these is not intentional I guess i fixed them

Regardless of what you have fixed, it'll be a rebubble, since I'm still on probation obviously. same

Thanks for the mod! Will update once the GD'ers apply!

Nelly

Beatmap Nominator

1,533 posts

Joined August 2014

Nelly 2017-10-05T12:27:18+00:00

Electoz wrote:
[Nelly's Cup]

00:50:684 (1,2,1,2) - Could've applied the symmetric pattern idea from what you did with 00:46:593 (1,2,1,2) tho? I'll keep it because it requires some kind of variety.
01:02:956 (1) - Shouldn't this be a 2/1 slider like 00:54:775 (1) considering that the vocal at 01:03:297 is not really significant to be mapped.
01:05:002 (3) - NC? Since there's one at 00:56:820 (1) which has a similar rhythm. Or removing the NC on 00:56:820 (1) also works.
01:45:230 (2) - Ctrl+H? Since you don't usually do anti-flows in kiais anyways

No replies means accepted. Thanks for a check! https://puu.sh/xQzVs/06be331332.osu

Tyrell

425 posts

Joined July 2014

Tyrell 2017-10-05T21:01:02+00:00

Electoz wrote:
Is there any way to get a better mp3 than the current one lol
Also metadata pls I don't think anything can go wrong but just in case. ;w;

[Tyrell's Utopia]

00:27:502 (3,1) - Swap NC? NC as it currently is makes more sense, since it starts at the vocal phrase la la la.
00:28:866 (4,1) - ^ cuz downbeat reasoning makes more sense to NC on the vocal emphasis since the mapping is tailoring to the vocals at that part.
00:31:593 (3) - Could NC here too considering you NC'd everything in this section every 1 measure. seems fine
00:38:752 (3) - ^ seems good
00:42:843 (3,1) - Could do a bigger spacing like what you did when 1/2 rhythms are happening at downbeats like 00:36:877 (3,1) - 00:39:605 (5,1) - 00:42:332 (4,1) . those instances have more spacing because of the emphasis on the notes following the sliders from vocals and instruments. that particular point doesnt need that emphasis so i would rather keep it a walk.
01:21:195 (4,5) - Optional; a dash can be added here to emphasize 01:21:366 (5) . A dash could make sense here but i would rather not,
i like what the pattern brings in term of variety to the map.
01:36:707 (3) - Is this hyperdash intentional? For now I'll assume it's not since you didn't do this in other places like 01:35:343 (3) - 01:40:798 (3) - 01:46:252 (3) - 01:47:616 (3) - where your hyperdashes don't exist after 2 1/1 sliders. it was intentional. it marks the emphasis on the 3rd note because of the vocals. the other instances you pointed out are different because of either the emphasis at that moment wasnt strong enough to warrant a dash or the patterns following would have the section have too many hyperdashes and fitting a rain of this SR, i would rather keep the hypers fair with only so many in rapid succession unless the part is emphasized for intensity or the music calls for it.
02:00:741 (2,3) - Can you add more spacing on this for emphasis like what you did in other measures 01:55:286 (4,5) - 01:56:650 (2,3) - 01:59:377 (2,3) - etc given the design choice of this section, it wouldnt make sense to add distance to those notes. those notes are meant to be walked. the patterns you compared them to were 4 1/2 notes then a dash which is different from the patterns with 3 1/2 notes then a dash. I did this differently to add variety to the ending which would just be boring 1/2 slider spam with the same dash patterns.
Regardless of what you have fixed, it'll be a rebubble, since I'm still on probation obviously.

Yay for probation. .-.

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