This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2017年7月5日 at 22:20:28

Artist: monet
Title: GHOSTxGRADUATION
Source: はつゆきさくら
Tags: Hatsuyuki Sakura ending VisualArt's SAGA PLANETS galgame eroge
BPM: 82
Filesize: 8101kb
Play Time: 05:24
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1. GraduatiOni (2.69 stars, 892 notes)

Download: monet - GHOSTxGRADUATION
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#15, for approval.

This song is epic.

All data and timings from Rizia's STD map: https://osu.ppy.sh/b/824637 . Fixng timing a bit to suit Taiko though.

Aloha

[Oni]
00:09:572 (18) - This is actually k since 00:09:206 (17) - is slighty calmer than (18).
00:10:670 - I was actually suggesting to use k here since it's also a key sound it carries well but uh, I see why you kept it empty despite it sounds and feels weird.
00:11:767 (22,23,24,25,1) - kkddk is simpler, yes. But if you really want to follow the music properly you should use dkkdk.
00:14:694 - Unlike 00:16:157 - this timestamp feels too strong as you wouldn't use a d note here.
00:16:889 (9) - kinda feels like you should use k here too since it fades out slowly while it's significantely higher than 00:17:255 (10) - .
00:21:279 (21) - compared to 00:21:096 (20) - this is lighter and pretty similar with 00:22:011 (23) - , therefore I'd go with k.
00:50:548 (29) - since you map the beep sound with k, I don't see how d works here instead of k. You also did 00:47:621 (25) - as k note so why not (29) too?
00:52:011 (31) - I'd even argue about this but since you follow the piano here - which sounds stronger imo - that's fine to use d here.
00:54:938 (38) - then again, this would be smarter to have k k k d again like 00:47:621 (25,26,27,28) - .
01:18:352 (44) - Although you mainly follow the background music, I think to leave this note out makes the emphasis of 01:17:987 (43) - stronger.
01:25:487 - Meanwhile it sounds good to connect 01:24:938 (59,60,61,1) - together with d note on 01:25:487 - .
01:29:694 (15,16,17,18,19,20) - the oo oooo is a good start but I think you can change this to dk kd k which fits to both, background and vocals.
01:31:889 (24,25,26,27,28,29) - similar to the previous suggestion, the doublet usage could be improved, change this part like that: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/6P7iP2z9 (starting from (24 till 28)
01:39:938 (8,9,10) - You could swap them to have kdd, the vocals looks more appropriate emphasize with k.
01:47:438 (4) - The note sounds quite forced, 01:46:889 (2,3) - sounds stronger if they're alone so the vocals will be emphasized better.
01:49:816 (13,14) - Any reasons you haven't mapped them as k k? d d may works too but I'd go with k k instead.
02:22:560 (67,68) - Similar to 01:18:352 (44) - these notes can be removed to give the vocal mapping with 02:22:377 (66) - a bigger impact.
02:34:267 (16) - since 02:34:633 (18,19) - are similar to 02:34:084 (15,16) - they both can be k k as well, it sounds good if you ask me.
02:36:645 (27) - like 01:31:889 - this note could be removed.
03:10:695 (3) - is pretty much the same impact level than 03:10:323 (2) - so d is more appropriate here.
03:35:958 (14,15,16,17,18) - instead of dddkd, you could do a reversed 03:34:495 (9,10,11,12,13) - here, means to use kdkdk.
04:13:606 (7,8) - Uh, this is rather 1/8 than 1/6, should be fine in this case since it's 86 BPM where it's not dramatical to use 1/8 for once when it actually fits.
04:18:240 (16) - same case like 02:36:645 (27) - and 01:31:889 - .

Generally, I am an oppoment against bigger volume changes but I get where do you want with them. However, you need to adjust them a bit better, some sounds too sudden and loud.

00:59:328 - Since the vocals and a new background beat are added you should slightly increase the volume to 30%.
01:20:548 - may increase to 40% because 30% starts to become too calm.
01:24:206 - because of the very strong drum sound you should already start here with 50% and..
01:25:670 - could be changed to 50% since I find 60% to noisy.
01:52:011 - ^ when applied.
02:02:255 - should be 30%, 60% is way too loud and sudden.
02:03:718 - could be added for 40%, 30% almost sounds too calm imo.
02:27:499 - like previously, add 50% here already.
02:30:060 - same case than 01:25:670 - .
02:53:474 - There is no need to stick with 60% while the song is from one second to another pretty calm, use 30% here.
03:00:974 - works with 45%.
03:02:255 - 03:38:152 - The entire section works much better with 30% since there is barely any volume drops here.
03:45:915 - 04:01:416 - ^
04:01:411 - in case you apply to the last two points above, from here you can go to 40%.
04:14:581 - yeah, you know what I want from you. :3c
04:43:849 - ^
05:07:269 - Sounds almost too calm with 20%, try 30%.
05:09:437 - 05:09:789 - 05:10:173 - should go with 40% since 60% is too noisy and fits better with the previous suggestion.

Good luck!

Stefan wrote:

Aloha

[Oni]
00:09:572 (18) - This is actually k since 00:09:206 (17) - is slighty calmer than (18). > 00:10:304 - is outstanding. I would like to emphasize it solely by using 3 d before it.
00:10:670 - I was actually suggesting to use k here since it's also a key sound it carries well but uh, I see why you kept it empty despite it sounds and feels weird. > I feel weird to have a note put right here, yeah you know...
00:11:767 (22,23,24,25,1) - kkddk is simpler, yes. But if you really want to follow the music properly you should use dkkdk. > 00:11:767 - it has a lower pitch than 00:11:035 - , at least the former should be d not k. For 00:12:133 - , I will keep it as d since I want to emphasize the existence of 00:12:499 - . It is similar to the case at 00:09:572 (18) - .
00:14:694 - Unlike 00:16:157 - this timestamp feels too strong as you wouldn't use a d note here. > Right, 00:14:694 - there should be a d to mark it. 30% vol. is used as well.
00:16:889 (9) - kinda feels like you should use k here too since it fades out slowly while it's significantely higher than 00:17:255 (10) - . > 00:16:889 - to 00:18:352 - is a group of note. kdkdk is kinda boring imo. Meanwhile, 00:17:621 - and 00:18:352 - are kinda outstanding from this group, which are certainly emphasized like the way I used before.
00:21:279 (21) - compared to 00:21:096 (20) - this is lighter and pretty similar with 00:22:011 (23) - , therefore I'd go with k. > this case is similar to the above one: the division of grouping of notes. 00:21:279 (22,23,24) - is a group, while 00:19:999 - to 00:21:096 - is another group. Comparison of notes should be made within each particular groups. 00:22:011 - is outstanding, and should be emphasized. 00:21:096 - has a lower pitch than 00:20:913 - does, mapping as d consequently.
00:50:548 (29) - since you map the beep sound with k, I don't see how d works here instead of k. You also did 00:47:621 (25) - as k note so why not (29) too? > I did notice the beep sound at the background :3, and yes it should definitely be k.
00:52:011 (31) - I'd even argue about this but since you follow the piano here - which sounds stronger imo - that's fine to use d here. > As the piano sound is masking the beep sound effect, d is used.
00:54:938 (38) - then again, this would be smarter to have k k k d again like 00:47:621 (25,26,27,28) - . > Nice catch indeed!
01:18:352 (44) - Although you mainly follow the background music, I think to leave this note out makes the emphasis of 01:17:987 (43) - stronger. > I agree with you that the high-pitch vocal is dominating at this timing. This note is removed.
01:25:487 - Meanwhile it sounds good to connect 01:24:938 (59,60,61,1) - together with d note on 01:25:487 - . > I did connect similar patterns at the later on pattern, but at here, there is actually no sound and not necessary to make the patterns so 'hype' already. A space should be given.
01:29:694 (15,16,17,18,19,20) - the oo oooo is a good start but I think you can change this to dk kd k which fits to both, background and vocals. > 01:29:877 - is similar to the effect at 01:17:987 - , I left a space at 01:29:877 - to state the long lasting vocal there. While, 01:29:877 (16,17,18) - d dk match the vocal part well. As you mentioned that 01:30:243 - mapping as k (can match the base drum well), I change it as k. 01:30:609 - this d is put to due to drum hit.
01:31:889 (24,25,26,27,28,29) - similar to the previous suggestion, the doublet usage could be improved, change this part like that: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/6P7iP2z9 (starting from (24 till 28) > Not likely to change the pattern here since mine really do match the vocal and the drum part imo. Your suggestion does not stick to the drum kick very concretely actually (01:32:255 - is missed) . 01:32:987 - yes, it might be a space, but the drum hit behind cannot be omitted imo.
01:39:938 (8,9,10) - You could swap them to have kdd, the vocals looks more appropriate emphasize with k. > 01:40:670 - is the point which the pitch starts lower. So, at the previous pattern, the last note connected to 01:40:670 - ought to be k for great emphasis. Speaking of pitch, the last k of ddk at 01:40:304 - shows the trend of uprising pitch, which can, already, match the high-pitch vocal well.
01:47:438 (4) - The note sounds quite forced, 01:46:889 (2,3) - sounds stronger if they're alone so the vocals will be emphasized better. > I also feel the force. Remove that d absolutely.
01:49:816 (13,14) - Any reasons you haven't mapped them as k k? d d may works too but I'd go with k k instead. > The reason is that it is a drum solo session without any kick (I mapped kick as k). d should be the only element.
02:22:560 (67,68) - Similar to 01:18:352 (44) - these notes can be removed to give the vocal mapping with 02:22:377 (66) - a bigger impact. > The differ between 01:17:987 - and 02:22:377 - is the background. There are more BG elements for the latter actually. Therefore, I also map those very weak drum hits, matching with the outstanding vocal.
02:34:267 (16) - since 02:34:633 (18,19) - are similar to 02:34:084 (15,16) - they both can be k k as well, it sounds good if you ask me. > The current one sounds better for me tbh. I rarely use dd/kk before an on-beat.
02:36:645 (27) - like 01:31:889 - this note could be removed. > There is a drum kick!!! It should not be removed. The two notes you mentioned are not similar though. 01:31:889 -I did not change the pattern surrounding this timing.
03:10:695 (3) - is pretty much the same impact level than 03:10:323 (2) - so d is more appropriate here. > I would like to show a difference btw 03:10:323 (2,3,1) - and 03:11:806 (2,3,4) - . So the former I used d k k, d d k for the latter.
03:35:958 (14,15,16,17,18) - instead of dddkd, you could do a reversed 03:34:495 (9,10,11,12,13) - here, means to use kdkdk. > 03:34:861 (11,12,13) - and 03:36:324 (16,17,18) - are kept as dkd to follow the pitch of melody well. dk/dd uses at 03:34:495 - and 03:35:958 - depend on the presence of drum hits and kicks. Currently no change at all since the current patterns do fit.
04:13:606 (7,8) - Uh, this is rather 1/8 than 1/6, should be fine in this case since it's 86 BPM where it's not dramatical to use 1/8 for once when it actually fits. > Actually this is a ghost pattern, there is no sound from 04:13:484 - to 04:13:850 - . I think 1/6 has a greater impact to create a little delay on the rhythm which fits the feel of the music imo.
04:18:240 (16) - same case like 02:36:645 (27) - and 01:31:889 - . > DRUM KICK AGAINNNNN!!!

Generally, I am an oppoment against bigger volume changes but I get where do you want with them. However, you need to adjust them a bit better, some sounds too sudden and loud.

00:59:328 - Since the vocals and a new background beat are added you should slightly increase the volume to 30%.
01:20:548 - may increase to 40% because 30% starts to become too calm.
01:24:206 - because of the very strong drum sound you should already start here with 50% and..
01:25:670 - could be changed to 50% since I find 60% to noisy.

> In Kiai session, I will adjust the volume be 55% to strike a good balance. For the introduction b4 the kiai, I will take 50% which fits well. 01:19:816 - starts with 45%. 00:59:328 - will go for a 35% since 30% is still too weak imo.

01:52:011 - ^ when applied. > sure, following with 55% then.
02:02:255 - should be 30%, 60% is way too loud and sudden.
02:03:718 - could be added for 40%, 30% almost sounds too calm imo.

> A cresc. is applied in the above session, 35% and 45% respectively. While, there is a 30% at 02:00:792 - .

02:27:499 - like previously, add 50% here already. > sure, but I will put 50% at 02:24:206 - already since it is a new start of a session.
02:30:060 - same case than 01:25:670 - . > same change is adopted.
02:53:474 - There is no need to stick with 60% while the song is from one second to another pretty calm, use 30% here. > lol I forgot to fix it, 30% is pretty nice.
03:00:974 - works with 45%.
03:02:255 - 03:38:152 - The entire section works much better with 30% since there is barely any volume drops here.

> 03:00:974 - should be 15% louder than 02:53:474 -, so 45% is right. 03:04:816 - there is a slight cresc. from here to 03:05:182 - . 35% and 40 % are used consequently. 03:07:383 - this strong base drum needs a little boost on the vol. of hitsound, so I put 45% for it. 40% is resumed after it. 40% is used until 03:12:547 - which dynamic is weaker than the previous notes. 03:12:547 - is 35% as a result. For 03:13:857 - and 03:14:047 - , they are much stronger than 03:12:547 - so I put 45% on them.

> 03:16:696 - and 03:17:075 - share the same volume which should be 20% as they are really weak. Meanwhile, the latter is a new start for this dynamic-weak session. 20% is used until 03:28:936 - . 03:28:936 - sounds a little bit stronger than before, 25% is put. There are some minor volume changes btw 03:28:936 - and 03:38:153 - , I am lazy to point out all of them.

03:45:915 - 04:01:416 - ^ > A lot of minor changes are made.
04:01:411 - in case you apply to the last two points above, from here you can go to 40%. > then that would be 45%.
04:14:581 - yeah, you know what I want from you. :3c
04:43:849 - ^

> You know what I have changed :3
05:07:269 - Sounds almost too calm with 20%, try 30%. > maybe 25% would be better :3
05:09:437 - 05:09:789 - 05:10:173 - should go with 40% since 60% is too noisy and fits better with the previous suggestion. > For the first two that would be 40% but for the last one, it sounds weaker and that's why I use 35% instead.

Good luck!

Thanks for the decent mod!!! :3

Halo~ Skylish~ Thank you for accepting M4M request.
Here is my mod. :3
My modding is include personal feeling & suggestion.
Please feel free to ignore, If my modding affect your mapping style.

d = don
D = big don
k = kat
K = big kat


Pretty song and nice mapset~
I really like this song. Please Rank this. GL~!

Akemi_Homura wrote:

Halo~ Skylish~ Thank you for accepting M4M request.
Here is my mod. :3
My modding is include personal feeling & suggestion.
Please feel free to ignore, If my modding affect your mapping style.

d = don
D = big don
k = kat
K = big kat

• [General]

1. 04:43:850 - Kiai Unsnapped. ;w;
   
   
2. I'm just wondering about this. (because I'm not good at timing.)
   
   
   
   03:14:047 and 03:49:606 and 03:58:454 have two timing point each, but volume is different.
   In picture, red timing point has 45% volume, but green timing point has 60% volume. Idk how this applied in game. so please teach me about that. owo..
   
   
3. Source : I think 'GHOST×GRADUATION' is right title. I found source from these sites. (Site1, Site2)
   

> Fixed all. Replicated timing settings will depends on green timing point. However, as contradictory timing settings are prohibited, it will not happen anyway.

• [GraduatiOni]

1. 00:04:816 (10) - change to k~? (I think it's almost same sound with 00:03:352. we can change this for consistency. :3)
   
   > Yes they are in the same pitch, but I wanna emphasize 00:05:182 - with a don right before the k there. No change.
   
2. 00:09:572 (18) - how about change to k~? (just suggestion. we can change this for express same piano chord with 00:10:304.I think both dddk and dkdk looks good.)
   
   > I change 00:09:206 - to k instead, d is served as the leading colour for on-beat in calm section here, in most cases.
   
3. 00:17:255 (11) - change to k~? (same reason. I think this sound weaker than 00:16:523 (9), but pitch is same. so we can change this for consistency.)
   
   > same reason, 00:17:621 - there's piano chord right here, so I mapped it with a kat to display it.
   
4. 00:21:279 (22) - I'm not sure about this. just my feeling. this sound more fit to k imo. (because it has strong accompaniment. exactly, your mapping is fit to piano pitch. so I agree kdd, but just feeling said k is better for natural changing next accompaniment part. feel free to ignore this suggestion.)
   
   > d feels more natural to connect with the upcoming patterns, kept.
   
5. 00:38:474 - how about add note here~? (piano & vocal sound here. :3) If you add note here, we can change 00:38:109 (5, 6, 7) - kdk follow pitch. like this.)
   
   
   > You may notice that I am following piano chords very strictly until 00:59:328 - , no note is added to the parts without piano. Changed 00:38:109 - to k though.
   
6. 00:42:865 (15, 16) - swap this~? (00:42:865 - piano pitch is highest. so we can make this dkd.)
   
   > yup, fixed.
   
7. 00:56:401 (41, 42) - wow I'm really impressed this K D. (exactly, I thought It would mapped d d or k d for piano pitch, but this K D pattern really well match with music. Really nice. =w=b)
   
   > Thanks W_W
   
8. 00:58:413 (43, 44, 45) - how about change to ddk~? (for emphasize 00:58:596 - tick sound.)
   
   > true, adopted.
   
9. 01:09:389 - drum & vocal sound here, but I think you omit this sound intentionally for balance with kiai maybe..?
   
   > Yes I intentionally omit it to show a nicer progression of density. Fixed some structural problems here by myself.
   
10. 01:17:987 (43) - change to k~? (I think k is more fit to here. because vocal is raising part. and has high bell sound.)
    
    > adopted, increase density too to balance with previous mapping styles.
    
11. 01:32:621 - how about add k here~? (has high bell sound here. and this kdkdkd pattern natural for vocal(ai - i - shi). but it's your choice.)
    
    > 01:32:438 - vocal starts breaking at this timing, appropriate gap should be given to show it.
    
12. 01:39:938 (8) - I feel this accompaniment 1/6 rhythm. but I'm not sure. =w=;
    
    > not really like 1/6, gonna pay attention here later on if any modders report.
    
13. 01:54:023 - add note here~? (drum sound this point. and for consistent 01:56:401 (11, 12, 13, 14, 15).)
    
    > 01:53:474 (4,5,6,7) - acts as a mediator to balance the density from Kiai to non-Kiai parts. A nice density flow is actually created here.
    
14. 02:40:487 (43, 44) - swap this~? so dkkdkdk. (I think it's more fit to vocal variation. and we can hear cymbal sound in 02:40:670 (44).)
    
    > nice one, changed.
15. 02:43:779 - add d here~? (drum sound.)
    
    > nope.
    
16. 02:52:011 - how about ddkdk~? (it's match with music pitch. and 02:52:560 has weak drum sound maybe. so this quintuplet fit imo.)
    
    > 02:52:011 - density drops down here to guide the players: there is going to be calmer in the coming session.
    
17. 03:45:550 - add d here, and 03:45:915 - change to k~? (for express piano sound from 03:45:184 to 03:45:915.)
    
    > fixed with your suggestion.
    
18. 04:13:484 (6, 7, 8, 9) - I think this part has 1/8 drum sound. when I playback 25% I can hear drum sound in 04:13:667 and 04:13:758. so maybe we can change like this.
    
    
    > nice ear, fixed.
    
19. 04:26:837 - add d here~? (drum sound here~ so we can make ddk, reverse with previous kkd.)
    
    > 04:26:289 (11,12,13) - extra clear d d k pattern here, the vocal intensity is not that high comparing with other sections in this Kiai.
    
20. 04:42:995 (80, 81) - another 1/8 rhythm. we can change like this too.
    
    
    > I changed that into just 1/8 dk, just like the previous one at the last Kiai 04:24:733 (3,4) -

Pretty song and nice mapset~
I really like this song. Please Rank this. GL~!

Thanks for modding :>

[General]

no issues

[GraduatiOni]

02:53:474 (1) - because this big don is drum sound, maybe 45~40% volume and give 30% volume to next 02:53:840 (2) piano dons
04:13:484 (6) - delete
04:31:410 (32,33,34) - k k d
04:36:349 (54) - don
04:43:666 - add a don
05:06:532 (41,42,43) - k k d or k k k

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