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17:35 Opsianos: 00:39:788 (1) -
17:35 Opsianos: Remove that NC xP
17:35 Daoski: should i do it for all similar instances?
17:35 Opsianos: Ehh just that one
17:35 Opsianos: Cause there were 2 NC's in a row
17:36 Daoski: o ok
17:36 Opsianos: 00:43:577 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
17:36 Daoski: tru it is indeed inconsistent
17:36 Opsianos: This isn't objective
17:36 Opsianos: But
17:36 Opsianos: Hmm
17:36 Daoski: i think the overlap for 3 and 4
17:36 Opsianos: Actually nvm lol that's really personal
17:36 Daoski: is pretty sketchy huh
17:37 Daoski: what do u think im willing to listen
17:37 Opsianos: No the jumps are good
17:37 Opsianos: It's just that they surprised me a little
17:37 Opsianos: Compared to the slow sliders that were super closely blanketed right before
17:37 Daoski: o
17:37 Opsianos: So I was going to suggest maybe gradually increasing the spacing of the jumps
17:37 Opsianos: Instead of making them uniform
17:38 Daoski: hmmm u seem to make a good point
17:38 Daoski: what i thought was just to decide on the DS between notes based on the difference in pitch of piano
17:38 Opsianos: But again that really depends on the mapper
17:38 Opsianos: Hmm
17:38 Daoski: 00:44:051 (4,5,6,7,8) - i guess this shape is pretty messy, no?
17:38 Opsianos: No it flows well
17:38 Opsianos: The jumps aren't messy at all
17:38 Opsianos: They're clean
17:39 Opsianos: Just the spacing IMO
17:39 Opsianos: Also personally
17:39 Opsianos: 00:43:104 (3) -
17:39 Daoski: should be highest spacing --> lowest spacing?
17:39 Opsianos: I would halve this slider's length and put a circle on the big white tick since it's a strong sound there on the vocal
17:39 Daoski: o
17:39 Opsianos: Actually you know what the jumps are fine lol
17:40 Daoski: ur right
17:40 Daoski: idk i unconciously followed the piano
17:40 Daoski: but ill give it a shot and see how it goes
17:40 Opsianos: I mean the structure is good
17:40 Daoski: at the very least
17:40 Opsianos: I'm telling you they're fine cause if you put that extra circle in the beginning in it should be easier to expect
17:40 Daoski: is it because the circles start at a white tick instead of red?
17:40 Opsianos: Cause I think they're unexpected cause they come right after a sliderend
17:41 Daoski: im kinda new to mapping so bear with me here ;_;
17:41 Opsianos: lol no worries I am too
17:41 Daoski: well... doesnt it technically come after sliderend even if u half its length anyway?:P
17:41 Opsianos: lol true
17:41 Opsianos: But the slider's rather long
17:41 Opsianos: And slow
17:41 Daoski: ok ok
17:42 Opsianos: I think halving the slider would require the player to gain speed for the jumps
17:42 Opsianos: Also I'd say you should NC 00:43:104 (3) -
17:42 Daoski: o so it allows them to speed their aim naturally
17:42 Opsianos: Instead of 00:44:840 (1) -
17:42 Daoski: ok
17:42 Opsianos: Yeah basically
17:42 Daoski: ok ok
17:42 Daoski: noted
17:43 Opsianos: Oh right
17:43 Opsianos: You were right
17:43 Opsianos: The NC's are a consistent issue
17:43 Opsianos: So for things like this
17:43 Opsianos: 00:49:735 (5,1) -
17:43 Opsianos: Just NC the first one instead of the second one
17:43 Daoski: o?
17:43 Daoski: i was suggested otherwise
17:44 Daoski: told me to remove NC for first
17:44 Opsianos: Oh really
17:44 Opsianos: Well that's odd
17:44 Opsianos: Since IMO the NC should be on the first one cause it's more readable and the first note is stronger since it's on the big white tick
17:45 Daoski: o so thats usually where u would place NC's personally?
17:45 Daoski: 00:37:104 (1,1) - so for that reason u'd remove nc for 2nd one right
17:45 Opsianos: Yeah
17:45 Opsianos: Mmhmm
17:45 Daoski: ok ok
17:45 Opsianos: I think I'm of the majority opinion too
17:45 Daoski: i see where u goin
17:45 Opsianos: This is actaully a really solid map though IMO
17:46 Opsianos: Oh
17:46 Opsianos: For the ending
17:46 Opsianos: I would suggest using different sliders instead of letters lol
17:46 Daoski: rip
17:46 Daoski: my 10 minutes of effort sliders
17:46 Opsianos: I mean
17:46 Opsianos: The heart's fine
17:46 Daoski: ur against the letters?
17:46 Opsianos: But writing with sliders usually looks crude and unprofessional lol
17:47 Daoski: is there a section on rankable letters?
17:47 Opsianos: I mean
17:47 Daoski: cuz there r indeed maps with letters much worse than this
17:47 Opsianos: I think it's rankable
17:47 Daoski: that r ranked
17:47 Opsianos: This is just personal opinion lol
17:47 Opsianos: I don't think they play too well
17:47 Opsianos: But they're not messy/sloppy
17:48 Daoski: these letters? hmm ok ill remember that
17:48 Opsianos: I'd advise you to ask for more opinion
17:48 Opsianos: Cause that's just me being kind of picky
17:48 Daoski: ok ok
17:48 Daoski: so what im getting from you for these letters is:
17:48 Daoski: 1) they look fine, but still suggest an alternative
17:49 Daoski: 2) i forgot the reason u told me to change them again lul
17:49 Daoski: o they dont play well
17:49 Opsianos: Yeah and it doesn't look very nice either
17:49 Opsianos: Not that you didn't make them good
17:49 Opsianos: But I don't think sliders themselves look that great in letters
17:49 Opsianos: Again personal opinion though
17:49 Daoski: o
17:50 Opsianos: Moving a bit back
17:50 Opsianos: 01:17:525 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) -
17:50 Opsianos: I'd suggest remapping this into something more exciting
17:50 Opsianos: Or at least
17:50 Opsianos: 01:19:419 (4) -
17:50 Opsianos: Replace it with a stream cause I think that'd sound pretty good and it fits into the song
17:51 Daoski: o
17:51 Opsianos: Cause the music is rather intense at that point and it's not very rhythmically interesting compared to the rest of the kiai
17:51 Daoski: good idea ill probably do the latter
17:51 Daoski: ok i completely see what u mean
17:51 Daoski: i just didnt want to overmap and probably held back too muchfor a kiai
17:51 Daoski: will do sir
17:52 Opsianos: Yeah I was really worried about overmapping too before
17:52 Opsianos: But after looking at popular ranked maps
17:52 Opsianos: The mapper adds short bursts and triples when there isn't really anything in the music that's like that
17:52 Opsianos: It just makes the map more fun and it sounds good and not out of place
17:53 Daoski: lol ill try and look for those ^^
17:53 Opsianos: Also this is personal opinion too
17:53 Daoski: is there anything else u want to say for the kiai? i was kinda hoping u'd look at 01:30:156 (1,1) -
17:53 Opsianos: Hm?
17:54 Daoski: i need to do this better but idk how to transition it properly
17:54 Opsianos: I mean the ending is pretty good
17:54 Opsianos: Just some combo errors but nothing major
17:54 Opsianos: Oh actually
17:54 Opsianos: 01:35:209 (1) -
17:54 Opsianos: Maybe shorten this to the previous white tick?
17:55 Opsianos: Since 01:36:314 (1) - is that length
17:55 Opsianos: And the vocal stops at that white tick too
17:55 Daoski: hmm ok
17:55 Daoski: changed
17:55 Opsianos: Okay one more thing I believe
17:55 Opsianos: Again this is personal opinion
17:56 Opsianos: 01:25:419 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) -
17:56 Opsianos: I would suggest adding some more variation here
17:56 Opsianos: Doesn't have to be too much IMO
17:56 Daoski: hmm so do u want me to just move each pair around in a more diverse fashion?
17:57 Daoski: i think the distance spacing between them is fine and shouldnt be changed imo
17:57 Opsianos: Ehh no they're fine structurally
17:57 Opsianos: I'm just talking about the rhythm
17:57 Opsianos: Like maybe make this into a slider
17:57 Opsianos: 01:26:367 (1,2) -
17:57 Opsianos: To emphasize the downbeat of 01:26:367 (1) -
17:57 Daoski: o ok
17:57 Opsianos: Basically what you did here
17:57 Opsianos: 01:25:104 (3) -
17:58 Daoski: right
17:58 Daoski: it doesnt match up with my hitsound with what i have currently
17:58 Opsianos: Hmm
17:58 Opsianos: Out of curiosity
17:58 Opsianos: Did you want this slider to be more wavy
17:58 Opsianos: 01:35:209 (1) -
17:59 Daoski: not really
17:59 Opsianos: Ah okay nvm then
17:59 Daoski: the vocal is a flat A sound
17:59 Daoski: so i didnt think it warranted more waviness
18:00 Daoski: BTW
18:00 Opsianos: Yeah that's fine
18:00 Opsianos: Hm?
18:00 Daoski: is it alright if i could ask for ur opinion on my blanketing for 2 parts?
18:00 Opsianos: Also I think that's basically it from my end
18:00 Opsianos: lol sure
18:00 Opsianos: I'm sloppy with blanketing though cause I use a lot of weird sliders
18:00 Opsianos: The map looked pretty clean with blankets though
18:01 Opsianos: I'd advise getting someone from #modhelp or something to help you with NC's more by the way
18:01 Daoski: 01:12:946 (2,4) - this got pointed out by a mod and just wanted to ask if this was ok?
18:01 Opsianos: Uhh
18:01 Daoski: ye these mods were from modhelp if i ever referred to them
18:01 Opsianos: I don't really see the problem with it
18:01 Opsianos: Cause it 01:12:946 (2) - blankets 01:12:472 (3) - perfectly
18:02 Daoski: 1 more
18:02 Daoski: 01:37:735 (1,3,1) - this might be hard but this is ok too?
18:02 Opsianos: Honestly if someone said the word "blanket" on this map while modding I'd think they're grasping at straws
18:02 Opsianos: Well yeah that's fine too
18:02 Daoski: oh it was because when i first mapped this
18:03 Daoski: ppl were telling me o its good note placement and flow concept
18:03 Daoski: BUT NO DISTANCE SNAPPING OR BLANKET >:
18:03 Opsianos: Cause 01:38:840 (3) - blankets 01:37:735 (1) -
18:03 Daoski: and then had to remap :c
18:03 Opsianos: Well this map's really clean aesthetically IMO
18:03 Opsianos: If anything I'd say it's TOO clean lol
18:03 Opsianos: But again personal taste
18:04 Daoski: ;_; im so happy to hear that lol
18:04 Opsianos: That's definitely personal taste
18:04 Opsianos: So yeah blankets are good
18:04 Opsianos: Looks like you worked hard to make them perfect xP
18:04 Daoski: ;_; u have no idea
18:05 Daoski: first time blanketer
18:05 Opsianos: xD
18:05 Daoski: do u think the intensity of notes is inconsistent with intensity of music anywhere else except what u've highlighted so far? (aka 01:19:261 (3,4) - )
18:05 Daoski: im willing to push it up a couple more stars, despite losing the .69
18:05 Daoski: feelsbadman
18:06 Opsianos: lmao
18:06 Opsianos: Let's see
18:06 Opsianos: 00:59:051 (1,2,3,4,5) -
18:06 Opsianos: I'd say to make sure that the jumps that you did along with the piano should be smaller in spacing than this
18:07 Opsianos: Since that buildup is more exciting than the relative tranquility of the song
18:08 Opsianos: Other than that it's basically it
18:08 Daoski: alright sounds good, i dont really have any other stuff to bother u with then :O TYVM
18:08 Opsianos: np
18:08 Opsianos: Oh right
18:08 Opsianos: This is a bit personal
18:08 Opsianos: But I don't think it has to be AR 9.5 xP
18:08 Opsianos: Unless that's what you're aiming for
18:09 Daoski: hm
18:09 Opsianos: Maybe 9.2 or 9.3
18:09 Daoski: it was either 9.3 or 9.5
18:09 Daoski: hm ok
18:09 Daoski: ill try 9.3 since i like it too, and give it a shot
17:35 Opsianos: Remove that NC xP
17:35 Daoski: should i do it for all similar instances?
17:35 Opsianos: Ehh just that one
17:35 Opsianos: Cause there were 2 NC's in a row
17:36 Daoski: o ok
17:36 Opsianos: 00:43:577 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
17:36 Daoski: tru it is indeed inconsistent
17:36 Opsianos: This isn't objective
17:36 Opsianos: But
17:36 Opsianos: Hmm
17:36 Daoski: i think the overlap for 3 and 4
17:36 Opsianos: Actually nvm lol that's really personal
17:36 Daoski: is pretty sketchy huh
17:37 Daoski: what do u think im willing to listen
17:37 Opsianos: No the jumps are good
17:37 Opsianos: It's just that they surprised me a little
17:37 Opsianos: Compared to the slow sliders that were super closely blanketed right before
17:37 Daoski: o
17:37 Opsianos: So I was going to suggest maybe gradually increasing the spacing of the jumps
17:37 Opsianos: Instead of making them uniform
17:38 Daoski: hmmm u seem to make a good point
17:38 Daoski: what i thought was just to decide on the DS between notes based on the difference in pitch of piano
17:38 Opsianos: But again that really depends on the mapper
17:38 Opsianos: Hmm
17:38 Daoski: 00:44:051 (4,5,6,7,8) - i guess this shape is pretty messy, no?
17:38 Opsianos: No it flows well
17:38 Opsianos: The jumps aren't messy at all
17:38 Opsianos: They're clean
17:39 Opsianos: Just the spacing IMO
17:39 Opsianos: Also personally
17:39 Opsianos: 00:43:104 (3) -
17:39 Daoski: should be highest spacing --> lowest spacing?
17:39 Opsianos: I would halve this slider's length and put a circle on the big white tick since it's a strong sound there on the vocal
17:39 Daoski: o
17:39 Opsianos: Actually you know what the jumps are fine lol
17:40 Daoski: ur right
17:40 Daoski: idk i unconciously followed the piano
17:40 Daoski: but ill give it a shot and see how it goes
17:40 Opsianos: I mean the structure is good
17:40 Daoski: at the very least
17:40 Opsianos: I'm telling you they're fine cause if you put that extra circle in the beginning in it should be easier to expect
17:40 Daoski: is it because the circles start at a white tick instead of red?
17:40 Opsianos: Cause I think they're unexpected cause they come right after a sliderend
17:41 Daoski: im kinda new to mapping so bear with me here ;_;
17:41 Opsianos: lol no worries I am too
17:41 Daoski: well... doesnt it technically come after sliderend even if u half its length anyway?:P
17:41 Opsianos: lol true
17:41 Opsianos: But the slider's rather long
17:41 Opsianos: And slow
17:41 Daoski: ok ok
17:42 Opsianos: I think halving the slider would require the player to gain speed for the jumps
17:42 Opsianos: Also I'd say you should NC 00:43:104 (3) -
17:42 Daoski: o so it allows them to speed their aim naturally
17:42 Opsianos: Instead of 00:44:840 (1) -
17:42 Daoski: ok
17:42 Opsianos: Yeah basically
17:42 Daoski: ok ok
17:42 Daoski: noted
17:43 Opsianos: Oh right
17:43 Opsianos: You were right
17:43 Opsianos: The NC's are a consistent issue
17:43 Opsianos: So for things like this
17:43 Opsianos: 00:49:735 (5,1) -
17:43 Opsianos: Just NC the first one instead of the second one
17:43 Daoski: o?
17:43 Daoski: i was suggested otherwise
17:44 Daoski: told me to remove NC for first
17:44 Opsianos: Oh really
17:44 Opsianos: Well that's odd
17:44 Opsianos: Since IMO the NC should be on the first one cause it's more readable and the first note is stronger since it's on the big white tick
17:45 Daoski: o so thats usually where u would place NC's personally?
17:45 Daoski: 00:37:104 (1,1) - so for that reason u'd remove nc for 2nd one right
17:45 Opsianos: Yeah
17:45 Opsianos: Mmhmm
17:45 Daoski: ok ok
17:45 Opsianos: I think I'm of the majority opinion too
17:45 Daoski: i see where u goin
17:45 Opsianos: This is actaully a really solid map though IMO
17:46 Opsianos: Oh
17:46 Opsianos: For the ending
17:46 Opsianos: I would suggest using different sliders instead of letters lol
17:46 Daoski: rip
17:46 Daoski: my 10 minutes of effort sliders
17:46 Opsianos: I mean
17:46 Opsianos: The heart's fine
17:46 Daoski: ur against the letters?
17:46 Opsianos: But writing with sliders usually looks crude and unprofessional lol
17:47 Daoski: is there a section on rankable letters?
17:47 Opsianos: I mean
17:47 Daoski: cuz there r indeed maps with letters much worse than this
17:47 Opsianos: I think it's rankable
17:47 Daoski: that r ranked
17:47 Opsianos: This is just personal opinion lol
17:47 Opsianos: I don't think they play too well
17:47 Opsianos: But they're not messy/sloppy
17:48 Daoski: these letters? hmm ok ill remember that
17:48 Opsianos: I'd advise you to ask for more opinion
17:48 Opsianos: Cause that's just me being kind of picky
17:48 Daoski: ok ok
17:48 Daoski: so what im getting from you for these letters is:
17:48 Daoski: 1) they look fine, but still suggest an alternative
17:49 Daoski: 2) i forgot the reason u told me to change them again lul
17:49 Daoski: o they dont play well
17:49 Opsianos: Yeah and it doesn't look very nice either
17:49 Opsianos: Not that you didn't make them good
17:49 Opsianos: But I don't think sliders themselves look that great in letters
17:49 Opsianos: Again personal opinion though
17:49 Daoski: o
17:50 Opsianos: Moving a bit back
17:50 Opsianos: 01:17:525 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) -
17:50 Opsianos: I'd suggest remapping this into something more exciting
17:50 Opsianos: Or at least
17:50 Opsianos: 01:19:419 (4) -
17:50 Opsianos: Replace it with a stream cause I think that'd sound pretty good and it fits into the song
17:51 Daoski: o
17:51 Opsianos: Cause the music is rather intense at that point and it's not very rhythmically interesting compared to the rest of the kiai
17:51 Daoski: good idea ill probably do the latter
17:51 Daoski: ok i completely see what u mean
17:51 Daoski: i just didnt want to overmap and probably held back too muchfor a kiai
17:51 Daoski: will do sir
17:52 Opsianos: Yeah I was really worried about overmapping too before
17:52 Opsianos: But after looking at popular ranked maps
17:52 Opsianos: The mapper adds short bursts and triples when there isn't really anything in the music that's like that
17:52 Opsianos: It just makes the map more fun and it sounds good and not out of place
17:53 Daoski: lol ill try and look for those ^^
17:53 Opsianos: Also this is personal opinion too
17:53 Daoski: is there anything else u want to say for the kiai? i was kinda hoping u'd look at 01:30:156 (1,1) -
17:53 Opsianos: Hm?
17:54 Daoski: i need to do this better but idk how to transition it properly
17:54 Opsianos: I mean the ending is pretty good
17:54 Opsianos: Just some combo errors but nothing major
17:54 Opsianos: Oh actually
17:54 Opsianos: 01:35:209 (1) -
17:54 Opsianos: Maybe shorten this to the previous white tick?
17:55 Opsianos: Since 01:36:314 (1) - is that length
17:55 Opsianos: And the vocal stops at that white tick too
17:55 Daoski: hmm ok
17:55 Daoski: changed
17:55 Opsianos: Okay one more thing I believe
17:55 Opsianos: Again this is personal opinion
17:56 Opsianos: 01:25:419 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) -
17:56 Opsianos: I would suggest adding some more variation here
17:56 Opsianos: Doesn't have to be too much IMO
17:56 Daoski: hmm so do u want me to just move each pair around in a more diverse fashion?
17:57 Daoski: i think the distance spacing between them is fine and shouldnt be changed imo
17:57 Opsianos: Ehh no they're fine structurally
17:57 Opsianos: I'm just talking about the rhythm
17:57 Opsianos: Like maybe make this into a slider
17:57 Opsianos: 01:26:367 (1,2) -
17:57 Opsianos: To emphasize the downbeat of 01:26:367 (1) -
17:57 Daoski: o ok
17:57 Opsianos: Basically what you did here
17:57 Opsianos: 01:25:104 (3) -
17:58 Daoski: right
17:58 Daoski: it doesnt match up with my hitsound with what i have currently
17:58 Opsianos: Hmm
17:58 Opsianos: Out of curiosity
17:58 Opsianos: Did you want this slider to be more wavy
17:58 Opsianos: 01:35:209 (1) -
17:59 Daoski: not really
17:59 Opsianos: Ah okay nvm then
17:59 Daoski: the vocal is a flat A sound
17:59 Daoski: so i didnt think it warranted more waviness
18:00 Daoski: BTW
18:00 Opsianos: Yeah that's fine
18:00 Opsianos: Hm?
18:00 Daoski: is it alright if i could ask for ur opinion on my blanketing for 2 parts?
18:00 Opsianos: Also I think that's basically it from my end
18:00 Opsianos: lol sure
18:00 Opsianos: I'm sloppy with blanketing though cause I use a lot of weird sliders
18:00 Opsianos: The map looked pretty clean with blankets though
18:01 Opsianos: I'd advise getting someone from #modhelp or something to help you with NC's more by the way
18:01 Daoski: 01:12:946 (2,4) - this got pointed out by a mod and just wanted to ask if this was ok?
18:01 Opsianos: Uhh
18:01 Daoski: ye these mods were from modhelp if i ever referred to them
18:01 Opsianos: I don't really see the problem with it
18:01 Opsianos: Cause it 01:12:946 (2) - blankets 01:12:472 (3) - perfectly
18:02 Daoski: 1 more
18:02 Daoski: 01:37:735 (1,3,1) - this might be hard but this is ok too?
18:02 Opsianos: Honestly if someone said the word "blanket" on this map while modding I'd think they're grasping at straws
18:02 Opsianos: Well yeah that's fine too
18:02 Daoski: oh it was because when i first mapped this
18:03 Daoski: ppl were telling me o its good note placement and flow concept
18:03 Daoski: BUT NO DISTANCE SNAPPING OR BLANKET >:
18:03 Opsianos: Cause 01:38:840 (3) - blankets 01:37:735 (1) -
18:03 Daoski: and then had to remap :c
18:03 Opsianos: Well this map's really clean aesthetically IMO
18:03 Opsianos: If anything I'd say it's TOO clean lol
18:03 Opsianos: But again personal taste
18:04 Daoski: ;_; im so happy to hear that lol
18:04 Opsianos: That's definitely personal taste
18:04 Opsianos: So yeah blankets are good
18:04 Opsianos: Looks like you worked hard to make them perfect xP
18:04 Daoski: ;_; u have no idea
18:05 Daoski: first time blanketer
18:05 Opsianos: xD
18:05 Daoski: do u think the intensity of notes is inconsistent with intensity of music anywhere else except what u've highlighted so far? (aka 01:19:261 (3,4) - )
18:05 Daoski: im willing to push it up a couple more stars, despite losing the .69
18:05 Daoski: feelsbadman
18:06 Opsianos: lmao
18:06 Opsianos: Let's see
18:06 Opsianos: 00:59:051 (1,2,3,4,5) -
18:06 Opsianos: I'd say to make sure that the jumps that you did along with the piano should be smaller in spacing than this
18:07 Opsianos: Since that buildup is more exciting than the relative tranquility of the song
18:08 Opsianos: Other than that it's basically it
18:08 Daoski: alright sounds good, i dont really have any other stuff to bother u with then :O TYVM
18:08 Opsianos: np
18:08 Opsianos: Oh right
18:08 Opsianos: This is a bit personal
18:08 Opsianos: But I don't think it has to be AR 9.5 xP
18:08 Opsianos: Unless that's what you're aiming for
18:09 Daoski: hm
18:09 Opsianos: Maybe 9.2 or 9.3
18:09 Daoski: it was either 9.3 or 9.5
18:09 Daoski: hm ok
18:09 Daoski: ill try 9.3 since i like it too, and give it a shot
Good luck with the map!