PIKOTARO - Pen-Pineapple-Apple-Pen [Osu|Taiko]

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-TakoYaki-

Xendogenesis wrote:

yes i can finally get easy 200pp from this map <3
Yay <3
Aras
oh gdi, penpainapoapopen!!!
Janpai
Why there are some unnecessary tags like jump funny lol short piko taro (duplicated artist) and this pen pineapple is incomplete. NNK is also unnecessary because it is not a real user but just a pen name of -N a n a k o-
I know this song is meant for fun but that tags are unnecessary and have 0% relation to the song well yeah, it's for fun but funny is a reaction of most of the people in that song and doesn't have anything to do with the song itself.
Ashton

Janpai wrote:

Why there are some unnecessary tags like jump funny lol short piko taro (duplicated artist) and this pen pineapple is incomplete. NNK is also unnecessary because it is not a real user but just a pen name of -N a n a k o-
I know this song is meant for fun but that tags are unnecessary and have 0% relation to the song well yeah, it's for fun but funny is a reaction of most of the people in that song and doesn't have anything to do with the song itself.
agreed.
Ayyri
Congratulations on the qualify.

hi shiirn
Mun
Cut the first 5 seconds off of the audio track, it's needlessly taking up space and wasting time, since it's just silence. This isn't a rankability issue, it's just... ugh.

00:06:596 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - These notes aren't just weirdly spread, but it just plays quite badly.
00:14:979 (2,3) - Maybe stack sliderend with this note? There's a lot of that sort of stacking going on in the map, and it doesn't make sense to have that little inconsistency there.
00:38:361 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - This is a really skewed octagon. It feels rather strange playing it, since all of the followpoints do not share any single point.
00:39:464 (2,4) - Again, stacking?
00:45:039 (2) - Maybe move this note over just a bit, so that the sharply turning slider at 00:44:578 (1) - directly leads into the followpoint.
00:16:082 (1) - This held sound ends at 00:16:523, why does the slider keep going to 00:16:744?
00:33:067 (1) - Maybe move this so the sliderend is blanketed with 00:32:185 (4) - because it looks weird as it is.
00:26:008 (1,4) - I would advocate moving these 2 notes over so that 00:26:008 (1,2,3,4) - becomes a triangle with at least close to 2 equal distances. As it stands, it looks like a bit of a mess.
00:31:964 (3) - There is 0 sound here. If 00:31:743 (2) - was a 2/4 slider, it would make sense to have the end here, but the note is a clear unnecessary overmap.
00:41:891 (1) - Maybe make this into a 180 degree rotation of 00:41:449 (5) - ?
00:45:424 (1) - I had to turn my audio up to normally ear-destroying levels to hear the sound behind this spinner after 00:48:953. Ending it on the big white tick seems more accurate to me.
00:26:670 (3,4) - My slidey senses are tingling, I think this blanket is off just a bit.
00:27:773 (1,2,3,4) - Spacing emphasis in this pattern is REALLY bad. The highest spaced circle is on the least emphasized part of the 'song' behind this pattern.
00:33:949 (3) - Maybe this should be a 180 degree rotation of 00:33:067 (1) - for the sake of visual consistency.
00:43:214 (5) - This, perhaps one of the strongest sounds in the whole 'song,' has not only no hitsound, but is actually an extremely quiet soft tick? Why?!
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piko taro ppap pen pineapple japanese jump funny lol short takoyaki gidz -gidz- dailycare skylish nanako nnk starrstyx
"piko" and "taro" should not be in the tags, as they are duplicates of the artist.
"jump" "funny" "lol" "short" are all irrelevant tags.
Remove "gidz" from the tags, as searching "gidz" will include search results with the tag "-gidz-" in them.
Change "takoyaki" to "-takoyaki-"
Why is "nnk" a tag?

There are way too many flaws in this, despite being such a short map. How did it make it to qualified?
Surono

Janpai wrote:

Why there are some unnecessary tags like jump funny lol short piko taro (duplicated artist) and this pen pineapple is incomplete. NNK is also unnecessary because it is not a real user but just a pen name of -N a n a k o-
I know this song is meant for fun but that tags are unnecessary and have 0% relation to the song well yeah, it's for fun but funny is a reaction of most of the people in that song and doesn't have anything to do with the song itself.
should dq bcus... tags?? I ever put anything words meme on my maps (still have relation but actually is no, just some meme lol) and now was bubbled/have ranked. I guess tags can be fixed without dq if its needed

ppl become memers for normal song, and then now ppl become serious for meme/funny song? =L_=
Mun

Surono wrote:

should dq bcus... tags?? I ever put anything words meme on my maps (still have relation but actually is no, just some meme lol) and now was bubbled/have ranked. I guess tags can be fixed without dq if its needed

ppl become memers for normal song, and then now ppl become serious for meme/funny song? =L_=
I'm not "ppl" I'm Mun.
Surono
ok... not at all tbh, and I am Surono

gw jadi inget meme socmed yang demo tanggal 4 nov kwkwkwkw
Mun
hi surono am big fan!!
Janpai
I never mentioned a DQ lol please don't conclude, I said it was unnecessary because of that statement (already mentioned) and I think that words isn't going to be the most keyword to this song. I'm not getting too serious on this. I just have the right to state what are my concerns.
Doyak
I have no idea why every diffs extended the slider to 00:16:744 - while it ends exactly on 00:16:523 - ?

Surono wrote:

should dq bcus... tags?? I ever put anything words meme on my maps (still have relation but actually is no, just some meme lol) and now was bubbled/have ranked. I guess tags can be fixed without dq if its needed

ppl become memers for normal song, and then now ppl become serious for meme/funny song? =L_=
Online tags can be fixed without DQ, but it only affects the website, so people still can search with those tags ingame. If the tag issue is major then it should be DQ'd and fixed imo.
Doyak
Okay one question to StarStyx.

Can you explain if there's any structural reasoning behind 00:06:596 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 00:38:361 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2) - the placement? Seems like very random positions for me, like literally everyone can put notes in random places and say "this is my feeling"
Kuo Kyoka
You may want to add
Source: jubeat Qubell

Since it's now official in a KONAMI ARCADE game


Unsure, because the song released before the song got officially in this game so ... but since it's already, why not?
Anymore, tags:
ペンパイナッポーアッポーペン Single
KONAMI BEMANI

That's all I guess so. Information: https://www.remywiki.com/Pen-Pineapple-Apple-Pen
Sonnyc
Star's Insane.
00:06:596 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - What is this? This just feels like a randomly scattered objects in the screen without forming an actual pattern.
00:10:126 (1,2,3) - It seems (3) is having a stronger sound in the song. Why is (1,2) having a bigger spacing than (2,3)?
00:11:008 (1,2,3,1) - Similar as above, why is (2,3) having a bigger spacing than (1,2)? Did you wanted to express the upbeats stronger? ok, could work. Then why is 00:11:891 (1,2,3,4) all having the same emphasis even if you decided to place an emphasis on the upbeat previously? Such inconsistent emphasis usage felt highly inappropriate in beatmap structures.
00:13:655 (1,2,3) - According to the music, this has a high similarity with 00:10:126 (1,2,3). What kind of consistency did you managed to express? The rhythms I see. The flows... not quite. Slider shapes, nope. Spacings, nope.
00:31:302 (1,2,3) - What is the placement logic of these objects? At least (1,2) feels like a mirrored sliders, but there are tons of questions. Why is (3) formed that way? Why is (2) placed there? Why is (3) placed there? What kind of a visual pattern is the placement of (2,3) forming? This kind of doubt presents all over the map and you'll want to figure it out if you can give a proper answer besides 'it is fun to play' or 'it's placed randomly to create my expected flow'. Unless, that's why this map should get considered as a low quality.
00:36:596 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - The melody lines are off here and just expressing the same as other large spaced parts weren't reflecting the song properly. Having a vocal-only part is a great difference in the music, but like there is 0 difference with previous sections in the map.
00:43:655 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - ^

Didn't pointed out all issues since I doubt if it this map could work in the current design.
It's honestly painful to see this in qualified. The map only contains flow and nothing else than that.
Skylish

Kuo Kyoka wrote:

You may want to add
Source: jubeat Qubell

Since it's now official in a KONAMI ARCADE game


Unsure, because the song released before the song got officially in this game so ... but since it's already, why not?
Anymore, tags:
ペンパイナッポーアッポーペン Single
KONAMI BEMANI

That's all I guess so. Information: https://www.remywiki.com/Pen-Pineapple-Apple-Pen
I think it is not really a necessary to add ' jubeat ...' into the tag column since the originality of the PPAP is not from Jubeat, right? By the same token, all tags related to Jubeat is not really a thing to be mentioned in the tag column imo.

Source: http://avex.jp/pikotaro/discography/

The hiragana of PPAP was put already in the title.

Speaking of tags conflicts, I agree that the duplicated 'pen' 'pineapple' 'piko' 'taro' can be removed as they exist in the title already.
Topic Starter
-TakoYaki-
Hi I am back

Mun wrote:

Cut the first 5 seconds off of the audio track, it's needlessly taking up space and wasting time, since it's just silence. This isn't a rankability issue, it's just... ugh. ugh.


00:16:082 (1) - This held sound ends at 00:16:523, why does the slider keep going to 00:16:744? somehow we all think that it's ok lolol but welp may consider
00:33:067 (1) - Maybe move this so the sliderend is blanketed with 00:32:185 (4) - because it looks weird as it is. Players' eyes focus on note 5 here, shouldn't be a bit problem in-game, but will consider
00:26:008 (1,4) - I would advocate moving these 2 notes over so that 00:26:008 (1,2,3,4) - becomes a triangle with at least close to 2 equal distances. As it stands, it looks like a bit of a mess. Agree
00:31:964 (3) - There is 0 sound here. If 00:31:743 (2) - was a 2/4 slider, it would make sense to have the end here, but the note is a clear unnecessary overmap. the strong beats are long here, which is fine imo
00:41:891 (1) - Maybe make this into a 180 degree rotation of 00:41:449 (5) - ? Agree, it also makes the flow better
00:45:424 (1) - I had to turn my audio up to normally ear-destroying levels to hear the sound behind this spinner after 00:48:953. Ending it on the big white tick seems more accurate to me.Wa you fine? lol
00:26:670 (3,4) - My slidey senses are tingling, I think this blanket is off just a bit. Are you referring to 1,3 or 3,4 here? For 3,4, it doesn't look off here. But for 1,3, the slider 3 appears after the player clicked slider 1, at this moment the players' eyes should be focusing on note 2. Therefore I focused on 3,4 blanket rather than 1,3 here
00:27:773 (1,2,3,4) - Spacing emphasis in this pattern is REALLY bad. The highest spaced circle is on the least emphasized part of the 'song' behind this pattern. I get your point, actually, slider 4 shouldn't be included in this set here(bass-hihat-snare-hihat). The set 1,2,3 has a triangular shape here, which looks well imo
00:33:949 (3) - Maybe this should be a 180 degree rotation of 00:33:067 (1) - for the sake of visual consistency. both 1 and 3 pointing inwards, emphasizing note 2 and slider 4
00:43:214 (5) - This, perhaps one of the strongest sounds in the whole 'song,' has not only no hitsound, but is actually an extremely quiet soft tick? Why?! This one was originally a slider, but some of the modders pointed out that it didn't work well so I decided to change it to a note
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piko taro ppap pen pineapple japanese jump funny lol short takoyaki gidz -gidz- dailycare skylish nanako nnk starrstyx
"piko" and "taro" should not be in the tags, as they are duplicates of the artist.
"jump" "funny" "lol" "short" are all irrelevant tags.
Remove "gidz" from the tags, as searching "gidz" will include search results with the tag "-gidz-" in them.
Change "takoyaki" to "-takoyaki-"
Why is "nnk" a tag?
True



There are way too many flaws in this, despite being such a short map. How did it make it to qualified?

Nothing is perfect imo :O

Kuo Kyoka wrote:

You may want to add
Source: jubeat Qubell

Since it's now official in a KONAMI ARCADE game


Unsure, because the song released before the song got officially in this game so ... but since it's already, why not?
Anymore, tags:
ペンパイナッポーアッポーペン Single
KONAMI BEMANI

That's all I guess so. Information: https://www.remywiki.com/Pen-Pineapple-Apple-Pen
I don't think this is necessary tho
Topic Starter
-TakoYaki-
soz for double post

Thanks for spending your precious time on this mapset guys, DQ incoming I think

I will also consider taking suggestions from other mods as well.

I am truly sorry that we might have to delay a bit since I am currently in exam period right now.

Hope you all have a nice day ;)
IamKwaN
As your request.
StarrStyx
Im planning to do a partial remap of my diff so please hold off modding it until I finish my fixes, thanks!

However I'll edit this post with replies to some of the mods once I get off school. check my other post lol
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