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Megurine Luka - Child's Garden (Short Ver.)

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Moefu_old
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2011年5月8日 at 23:33:47

Artist: Megurine Luka
Title: Child's Garden (Short Ver.)
Source: VOCALOID
Tags: lks tttttttttttt t12 otetsu
BPM: 240
Filesize: 3319kb
Play Time: 01:21
Difficulties Available:
  1. Collabo (5 stars, 291 notes)
  2. Easy (1.05 stars, 72 notes)
  3. Hard (5 stars, 272 notes)
  4. Normal (3.34 stars, 100 notes)
Download: Megurine Luka - Child's Garden (Short Ver.)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Megurine Luka-Child's Garden

thanks for lks and tttttttttttt's collaboration.

waiting...
LKs
short ver collab
Cirno
Hi~ My mod here. All below are just suggestions.
Red = I strongly think you should fix it.

[General]
Maybe use Grid 3 in [Easy], [Normal] and [Hard]? It's easier to make better looking patterns in Grid 3 compared to Grid 2.
I think you should play more maps before making your own, and pay attention to the way objects are arranged in the good maps. The current way you arranged your objects look almost random to me.
EDIT: striking because just found out this might not be your main account. Still, I suggest you look deeper into the maps you have played.

[Easy]
Technically okay...

[Normal]
AR +2 HPD +2
00:52:064 (1,2) - those are wrong. should be:
01:00:064 (1,2) - ^
01:09:064 (5) - imo this is better:
01:21:064 (4) - replace with a repeating slider that goes with the drumming, using 1/4 Snap Divisor

[Hard]
Sorry for long post, click into the spoiler box to read:
>.>
AR +2
00:15:064 (1) - reduce 1 repeat?
00:17:189 - clap?
00:17:564 - ^
00:17:689 - ^
00:17:939 - ^
00:21:564 (7) - This slider sounds and plays strange and out of place... I suggest delete this and add circles/repeating slider/sliders on 00:21:689 - 00:21:814 - 00:21:939 - 00:22:064.
00:24:564 (3) - move to 00:24:689 and maybe stack on 00:24:814 (4)
00:33:564 (5) - delete this and move 00:33:314 (4) to 00:33:439
00:37:689 (2) - I suggest delete this and add circle at 00:37:814 instead
01:10:314 (7) - use N:C1 and clap?
01:13:564 (9) - delete this
01:13:814 (10,11) - move to 01:13:689

01:14:314 - add note here?
01:21:064 (5) - replace with a repeating slider that goes with the drumming, using 1/4 Snap Divisor

[Insane]
00:05:501 - add note?
00:21:689 - add note?
00:33:564 (4) - maybe stack with 00:33:397 (3) ?
imo this Collab Insane is much better than your own difficulties >.>
try to learn from the other mappers who made this collab with you please


Star~

LKs

Cirno wrote:

[Insane]
00:05:501 - add note? hum, i see your thought but the note seems cant be set there, a blue line note makes the rhythm more harder to read.
very careful and detailed mod, thanks
Topic Starter
Moefu_old

Cirno wrote:

[Normal]
AR +2 HPD +2 +1
00:52:064 (1,2) - those are wrong. should be: nah...nothing is wrong == just be lack of a stick
SPOILER
[attachment=1:2aecc]moef_sldr.JPG[/attachment:2aecc]

01:00:064 (1,2) - ^ ^
01:09:064 (5) - imo this is better: nah... be same the as 01:17:064 on the other hand === i want to make it more neat
SPOILER
[attachment=0:2aecc]moef_sldr2.JPG[/attachment:2aecc]
01:21:064 (4) - replace with a repeating slider that goes with the drumming, using 1/4 Snap Divisor yep,i got it.but it should be 1/6

[Hard]
Sorry for long post, click into the spoiler box to read:
>.>
AR +2 +1
00:15:064 (1) - reduce 1 repeat? nah,i want to keep it up
00:17:189 - clap? k
00:17:564 - ^ k
00:17:689 - ^ k
00:17:939 - ^ k
00:21:564 (7) - This slider sounds and plays strange and out of place... I suggest delete this and add circles/repeating slider/sliders on 00:21:689 - 00:21:814 - 00:21:939 - 00:22:064. nah
00:24:564 (3) - move to 00:24:689 and maybe stack on 00:24:814 (4) ^
00:33:564 (5) - delete this and move 00:33:314 (4) to 00:33:439 yep,but change to 1/6
00:37:689 (2) - I suggest delete this and add circle at 00:37:814 instead k
01:10:314 (7) - use N:C1 and clap? nah
01:13:564 (9) - delete this
01:13:814 (10,11) - move to 01:13:689 [/color] ^
01:14:314 - add note here? That matter is under consideration
01:21:064 (5) - replace with a repeating slider that goes with the drumming, using 1/4 Snap Divisor
x

[Insane]
00:05:501 - add note? as lks said
00:21:689 - add note? no reason,why?
00:33:564 (4) - maybe stack with 00:33:397 (3) ? emm?..
imo this Collab Insane is much better than your own difficulties >.> 嗯~
try to learn from the other mappers who made this collab with you please


谢谢

Star~
TTTTTTTTTTTT

LKs wrote:

short ver collab
Kamina
加油 ;)
KSHR
modding ;)


-Overall-
you change "Insane" to "collabo" better imo


-Easy-
00:56:564 (3) - 1grid up
01:04:564 (3) - 1grid down
01:09:564 (4,1,2,1,2,3,1) - 1grid right

this dif adds hitsounds at all objects.
I think it's not good.
please try these one time.
If you dont like, you can ignore it.(because just suggestion)
SPOILER
remove whistle
00:02:064 (1) -
00:04:064 (3) -
00:06:064 (1) -
00:08:064 (3) -
00:10:814 (1) - at beginning
00:11:814 (2) - ^
00:12:814 (3) - ^
00:14:564 (2) - ^
00:16:564 (5) - ^
00:18:064 (1) - at turn
00:22:064 (1) - ^
00:26:064 (1) - ^
00:30:064 (1) - ^

add clap
:idea: *← means "after removing whistle"

01:06:064 (1) - at turn*
01:07:564 (2) - *
01:08:064 (3) - at turn*
01:09:564 (4) - *
01:11:064 (1) - at turn*
01:12:564 (2) - *
01:13:064 (3) - at turn*
01:14:564 (1) - *
01:15:064 (2) - at turn*
01:16:564 (3) - *
01:17:564 (1) - at beginnin & end*

others
01:19:064 (2) - remove clap
01:20:064 (4) - ^
01:20:189 (1) - add finish?

-Normal-
00:16:064 (1) - remove clap and add whistle at beinning?


-Hard-
:idea: * ←means "after changing grid level to 3"

00:25:189 (5) - 00:39:814 (2) - 1grid up
00:41:689 (1) - 1grid down*
00:45:439 (1) - 1grid down*
00:48:689 (2) - 1grid right*
00:50:564 (3) - 1grid up*
00:55:314 (2) - 1grid left*
00:57:189 (1) - x:336 y:160
01:02:564 (2) - 01:03:064 (3) - content; same as 01:02:564 (2)
01:10:814 (2) - 1grid down


-Insane-
I cant FC this dif.. DX but, It's very fun for me!! :)

00:21:064 (5) - 00:24:814 (2) - content; 00:21:064 (5)
00:27:064 (4) - ^
00:38:814 (4) - ^
00:39:564 (7) - ^
00:54:064 (1) - ^
00:54:814 (3) - ^
00:57:064 (3) - ^
01:01:064 (1) - ^
01:01:314 (2) - ^
01:03:439 (2) - ^
01:08:439 (2) -
SPOILER
size mis.. ><
01:13:689 (6) - 1grid left
01:02:064 (1,2) - I like these sliders XD


star~ :)
yuugeki1234
star- :D
Topic Starter
Moefu_old
all accepted,except clap (easy)

thx for your generous help~(´▽`)
Kurai
Easy
Approach rate +1, the notes appears too slowly
01:04:064 (2,3,4) - Move them 1 grid right for symetry ?
01:09:564 (4,1) - Bad spacing between these notes, move (4) 1 grid left, it will fix the spacing and will maje symetry :D

Normal
00:24:064 (1) - The end of this slider don't fit the song :/ Reduce it by 1/2 and it will fit.

Hard
AR+1 ?
00:47:314 (1) - Don't stack this note with the end of the slider, when I've test the map, it was weird and confusing :/

Collabo
- Disable the countdown in this difficulty, you don't use it.
00:40:939 - A a note here, It's Weird to have nothing here :/

Ok, not a lot to say :D
Star~
indyinyou
star

good job here
Topic Starter
Moefu_old
thx for star and modding~(≥∪≤)
Backstep
Hello moefu. :(

I'll skip your beatmap

because I dislike vocaloid :cry:

But I can give you a star :D

I'm sorry about this.

Fighto ! :)

Topic Starter
Moefu_old

backstep wrote:

Hello moefu. :(

I'll skip your beatmap

because I dislike vocaloid :cry:

But I can give you a star :D

I'm sorry about this.

Fighto ! :)

anyway~thank you~(≧∪≦)
loveFantasy
hi

[General]
- transfer your background image from PNG to JPG.
- you're using 240BPM, which makes your Easy/Normal having a really hard/speedy slider velocity for newbie/average players, you should lower that and remap the slider part of your map.

[Easy]
- KIAI section is over-whistled, other part is fine

[Normal]
<00:19:314> (2) not a big problem but using red line in 240BPM is same as using blue line in 120BPM (which usually confuse average players with 2/4 mixing 3/4), so suggest using same rhythm.

[Hard]
- overwhistled
- 1.6SV makes your sliders long and ugly, should try to use curvy ones instead of straight or use reverse arrow
<00:33:397> (4) increase spacing

[Collab]
<00:18:314..> (1..) use regular spacing in this part, hardly readable now
<00:19:939> (1) remove finish on startpoint
<00:52:064> (1,2,1) can't read
Shiro
Please reply to this mod saying what you didn't fix (and what you did) and why. Remember that these are all suggestions.
Also, if you have any question, feel free to ask me in-game :)

General
Nothing to point out.

Easy
00:36:064 (3) - The custom clap on the second beat sounds awfully loud, I think it would be better to make it less loud (I could do that directly on your soft-hitclap.wav if you don't want to bother with timing sections).
00:40:064 (3) - Same.
01:20:189 (1) - I think a more continuous decrescendo would be a lot better, but that would need quite a lot of timing sections, so your call.

Normal
00:42:064 (1,3) - These two sliders could easily be made a lot prettier imo - the pattern would look a lot better
00:57:314 (1) - This slider's repeat is hidden under (5)'s hitburst. It plays fine, but most new players might not see it.
01:04:064 (1) - Quit short of a spinner for a Normal diff imo.

Hard
This is an Insane diff. Also, the high (and weird) spacing makes it quite confusing to play.
00:18:439 (1) - Too far from previous object.
00:24:814 (4,5,6) - These are way too far from one another. Considering the very high BPM, such distance is rather confusing (they can be easily mistaken as 1/1...) and hard to play.
00:27:939 (1) - Same comment.
00:47:314 (1,2,3,4,5) - This pattern is extremely confusing. The AR being low, all the notes are on the screen by the time they are to be hit, and their order is hard to guess. I strongly suggest you rearranged/changed this pattern.
00:52:064 (1,2,3,4,5) - At this high BPM, this is quite insane, especially for a Hard diff. I'd suggest you reduced the spacing (your call though).
00:54:064 (1,2,3,4) - Similarly, these are too far from one another, all the more so because the beats are spaced with 0.8x DS after that.
01:00:064 (1,2,3,4,5) - Same as 00:52:064 -
01:01:064 (1,2,3,4,5) - Same as 00:52:064 -
01:10:314 (7) - Silencing beats this way is unrankable. Either remove it or unsilence it.
01:13:814 (10,11,1) - Why are these so far from one another ? ._. pretty much the same comments as 00:52:064 -
01:17:564 (1,2,3) - Same...
01:20:064 (1,2,3,4) - Too far from one another...
I don't know how you could call this a Hard with 5.00 star rating, these insane patterns, this insane spacing and this BPM. I'm puzzled.

Collab
Why is this not called "Collab" ?_?
Sorry, I fail to mod this. If I had to mod it, I'd probably highlight every single beat twice or more. Sorry.
Topic Starter
Moefu_old
waiting...

thx
Shohei Ohtani
Hi :3~

Collab:
Same as Odaril. Collabo sound silly :3
01:12:064 (1,2,1,2) - Questionable, but you don't have to change it :D

Hard:
AR +1

Normal:
Put some hitsounds in the beginning :D

Easy:
Boring, but cool :3

moefu~
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