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Kalafina - Gloria

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ecdonald
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2016年9月9日 at 4:03:07

Artist: Kalafina
Title: Gloria
Tags: lacrimosa yuki kajiura keiko kubota wakana outaki hikaru masai
BPM: 142
Filesize: 5640kb
Play Time: 03:27
Difficulties Available:
  1. Lamentation (3.34 stars, 475 notes)
Download: Kalafina - Gloria
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Lamentation(Hard+):Me
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Deramok
i just want to give my thought on this a bit as i really like kalafina and this seems like a worthwile map. most things will be timing related as i don't quite agree with many choices of objects and sliderlengths. i think in many places they could just be improved by following the song more accurately, giving the song and it's composition more presence. so if i miss the reason behind them or you just like having that kind of 1/2 mapping or 1/1 sounds as your style, this post might be mostly useless. but hey it's for free, can't hurt to point them out.

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  1. 00:17:327 (1,2,3,4) - if you want to map the piano only, this one is too much 00:17:750 (3) - , if you want to map the vocals this one is too much as well but a note should be added on 17:116 instead. if you want to map both, 3 still needs to go and a note would be added
  2. 00:19:862 (1,2,3) - fine as is, but if you add a note like in the first point, it would be needed here too
  3. 00:30:637 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 1 has the same piano notes skipped as you mapped in 00:32:327 (4) - i would make it consistent with each other. meaning either break up 1 or make the other part into a 1/1 slider too. also 00:31:905 (3) - this should definitely be mapped 1/1 rather than 1/2, again just like you did as well in 1
  4. 00:40:778 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - a nice looking pattern, but i can't really make sense of the slider ends that don't have a piano sound playing on them. so the start of 1 on i hear the first, third and fourth red tick being without a hit
  5. 00:52:186 (1) - same for this. i'd rather use a 1/1 than a 1/2. you can just use a single where the end of 2 is now for example
  6. 01:02:327 (4,5) - 4 in 1/1 and 5 in 1/2 instead
  7. 01:22:609 (4) - ^
  8. 01:06:130 (1,5) - should be 1/1
  9. 01:11:201 (1,3,4) - again 1/1
  10. 01:17:539 (5) - ^
  11. 01:31:482 (1,3,4) - ^
  12. 01:33:172 (1) - 1/2
  13. 01:38:279 (5) - doesn't starts after the white tick. not sure if on the blue or if it needs a new timing section
  14. 01:48:015 (3) - i think this needs a new timing section and i would use a single and start a slider from where the repeat is now to where 4 is now
  15. 01:50:087 (2) - 1/1
  16. 02:03:185 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - sa,e deal as with 00:30:637 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -you're consistent with it at least, i'll give you that
  17. 02:14:593 (1,3,1) - 1/1
  18. 02:23:466 (4) - ^
  19. 02:34:875 (1,1) - 1/1 as in the last chorus, agian, at least you're consistent with what you're doing
  20. 02:45:016 (1,2,1,2) - 1/1
  21. 02:51:354 (5) - ^
  22. 02:55:156 (3) - ^
  23. 02:56:424 (1) - ^
  24. 03:05:297 (1,4,6) - ^
  25. 03:08:466 (2,3) - 2 in 1/2 and 3 in 1/1
  26. 03:12:058 (5) - also doesn't seem to start on the white tick like the last one of it's kind

i don't quite understand the drum hitsounds that pop in the end. you don't use them anywhere else after all and that one pattern doesn't seem as special as to need different hitsounding. especially since in the previous chorus, on the same sound pattern, you didn't use them. i like the concept of drum sounds on the piano like that. but i'd suggest you either don't use them at all, or you use them consistently. i mean at least as well in the previous chorus.

the patterns and their spacing are mostly pretty much spot on imo. quite an enjoyable map, but to me it would be even more enjoyable if it followed the rhythms given more closely. so i went and wrote this.. comment, don't really want to call it a mod
Topic Starter
ecdonald

Deramok wrote:

i just want to give my thought on this a bit as i really like kalafina and this seems like a worthwile map. most things will be timing related as i don't quite agree with many choices of objects and sliderlengths. i think in many places they could just be improved by following the song more accurately, giving the song and it's composition more presence. so if i miss the reason behind them or you just like having that kind of 1/2 mapping or 1/1 sounds as your style, this post might be mostly useless. but hey it's for free, can't hurt to point them out.

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  1. 00:17:327 (1,2,3,4) - if you want to map the piano only, this one is too much 00:17:750 (3) - , if you want to map the vocals this one is too much as well but a note should be added on 17:116 instead. if you want to map both, 3 still needs to go and a note would be added nice catch fixed xd
  2. 00:19:862 (1,2,3) - fine as is, but if you add a note like in the first point, it would be needed here too okay
  3. 00:30:637 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 1 has the same piano notes skipped as you mapped in 00:32:327 (4) - i would make it consistent with each other. meaning either break up 1 or make the other part into a 1/1 slider too. also 00:31:905 (3) - this should definitely be mapped 1/1 rather than 1/2, again just like you did as well in 1
    I made these to emphasize affectivity of vocal, so.. these don't follow piano and are a bit jumpy, umm I'd make another diff which follow only piano or vocal
  4. 00:40:778 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - a nice looking pattern, but i can't really make sense of the slider ends that don't have a piano sound playing on them. so the start of 1 on i hear the first, third and fourth red tick being without a hit
    the sliderends reflects sustain of vocals (I made these part following vocal too)
  5. 00:52:186 (1) - same for this. i'd rather use a 1/1 than a 1/2. you can just use a single where the end of 2 is now for example
    ^
  6. 01:02:327 (4,5) - 4 in 1/1 and 5 in 1/2 instead
  7. 01:22:609 (4) - ^
  8. 01:06:130 (1,5) - should be 1/1
  9. 01:11:201 (1,3,4) - again 1/1
  10. 01:17:539 (5) - ^
  11. 01:31:482 (1,3,4) - ^
  12. 01:33:172 (1) - 1/2
    I'd keep for now since I also follow vocal in this diff, but I'd use your point for advanced/hard diff~
  13. 01:38:279 (5) - doesn't starts after the white tick. not sure if on the blue or if it needs a new timing section fixed
  14. 01:48:015 (3) - i think this needs a new timing section and i would use a single and start a slider from where the repeat is now to where 4 is now fixed
  15. 01:50:087 (2) - 1/1 fixed
  16. 02:03:185 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - sa,e deal as with 00:30:637 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -you're consistent with it at least, i'll give you that
  17. 02:14:593 (1,3,1) - 1/1
  18. 02:23:466 (4) - ^
  19. 02:34:875 (1,1) - 1/1 as in the last chorus, agian, at least you're consistent with what you're doing
  20. 02:45:016 (1,2,1,2) - 1/1 I'd like to emphasize on these >_< but maybe change to 1/1 if I get more mod on the points
  21. 02:51:354 (5) - ^
  22. 02:55:156 (3) - ^
  23. 02:56:424 (1) - ^
  24. 03:05:297 (1,4,6) - ^
  25. 03:08:466 (2,3) - 2 in 1/2 and 3 in 1/1
    these sliderend follow vocals
  26. 03:12:058 (5) - also doesn't seem to start on the white tick like the last one of it's kind fixed~

i don't quite understand the drum hitsounds that pop in the end. you don't use them anywhere else after all and that one pattern doesn't seem as special as to need different hitsounding. especially since in the previous chorus, on the same sound pattern, you didn't use them. i like the concept of drum sounds on the piano like that. but i'd suggest you either don't use them at all, or you use them consistently. i mean at least as well in the previous chorus.

the patterns and their spacing are mostly pretty much spot on imo. quite an enjoyable map, but to me it would be even more enjoyable if it followed the rhythms given more closely. so i went and wrote this.. comment, don't really want to call it a mod
Thank you for detailed modding!!
Sakurauchi Riko
Heyo, from #modreqs

uhm... basically I'm just here to ask if you are confident with your timing? Because I think the timing isn't right (especially because you use so many timing points). I tried timing it on my own and I came to the conclusion that this song just needs one timing point (I'm not 100% sure about the end, but it should be fine since every beat is on an 1/4 line.
So I pointed following timing settings out: 142BPM 3/4 measuring with an offset of 247 -> http://puu.sh/r4k1a/aebcb073dd.png

Try this out and check it if it feels right to you, well... for me at least it does :D
The offset might be not exact but it tends right

Good Luck and happy mapping! (:
Topic Starter
ecdonald

Phyloukz wrote:

Heyo, from #modreqs

uhm... basically I'm just here to ask if you are confident with your timing? Because I think the timing isn't right (especially because you use so many timing points). I tried timing it on my own and I came to the conclusion that this song just needs one timing point (I'm not 100% sure about the end, but it should be fine since every beat is on an 1/4 line.
So I pointed following timing settings out: 142BPM 3/4 measuring with an offset of 247 -> http://puu.sh/r4k1a/aebcb073dd.png

Try this out and check it if it feels right to you, well... for me at least it does :D
The offset might be not exact but it tends right

Good Luck and happy mapping! (:
ooh that offset feels right, added new red line! thanks! :)
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