Koji Wada - re-fly · forum

kanor

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

kanor 2016-10-23T13:17:14+00:00

Pata-Mon wrote:
随便看看．没看阿伯和啃球的

[General]
所有难度点一下Timing→全部重新对齐，因为改了红线，有很多东西差了1ms 好
除了啃球的难度以外，blanket真随便……好多地方好难看QWQ
[Easy]
00:38:760 (2) - 碰血条，最好把这段往下移一点好
01:12:734 (1,2,3) - 全难度就这里出现1/2gap，感觉不太好．考虑一下01:12:734 (1) - 加一次折返，然后01:13:999 - 这里开始第二个滑条，一拍半折返，这里正好也能把finish放滑条头，这样结束在01:15:083 - ，这里是那组鼓点同时也是vocal的开头，跟后面也是1/1，会比较好这里是两个kiai的交接处所以我觉得加个1/2gap没什么特别违和的地方......而改了感觉还要到处改，想象还是keep
01:48:155 (2) - 01:51:047 (2) - 01:53:939 (2) - 这几个结尾啥都没跟啊，吉他正好全在两边．这节奏确实比较舒服，如果你一定要这么下的话，我倒建议你把结尾都加上whistle，不然听得实在太明显了那里节奏明显不对，加了音效反而听着舒服．好，加了

[Insane]
人格该说的基本都说了．后面那段肯定要削跳，但你要想放跳的话，00:58:276 - 这里开始这段完全可以放跳，现在我是觉得这段太不爽了，那么密的音效以及渐强准备进入kiai，你ds这么小因为简单in嘛，本来是打算跳的，但是一跳就爆星orz，下次会注意的
GL~

thx for mod><

kanor

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kanor 2016-10-23T15:06:06+00:00

Karen wrote:
~~PLACEHOLDERED~~

[Insane]
00:11:983 (3,4,5) - 这一个3/4一个1/2节奏，距离都差不多，很难读，弄简单一点吧，3/4应该老实用小间距，况且这又是简单in 好，改了
00:13:459 (1,2,3) - 这看起来都不像是1/2间距，固定一个差不多的间距，大概跟这个00:19:603 (2,3) - 一样 OK，加大了间距
00:24:212 (2) - 这个违和，然而00:27:103 - 这里听起来应该加note的却没加去掉了，后面那个地方加了Note
01:03:608 - 这里的音很明显，漏掉太奇怪了，01:03:517 - 这里放1/4滑条跟一下比较好这里改成三连了，确实呢qwq
01:14:451 (2) - 这note不需要，没音而且这里不适合overmap 因为00:34:242 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - 这里我就是这么下的，同样是位于两个段落的连接处所以我想让梗尽量对应起来......不然的话感觉前面这么下有有点突兀了，所以我想保留下来QWQ
01:15:897 (2) - 01:18:789 (4) - ^ 为什么要在滑条尾overmap?? 想当然的下了三连撑难度......去掉了
01:35:506 (6) - 漏clap fixed
01:35:867 (1,2) - 同第一条，3/4距离太大改了
01:41:650 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - 这组跳非常不合曲，不是很懂为啥要强行跳，搞点滑条吧之前一直不知道怎么用左上角那个加音效.....补加了finish，没有finish引导就这么下确实会觉得不合曲吧......不知道改完之后这样行不行，如果还是觉得不合适的话我再改QWQ
[Hard]
AR降一点，这个bpm用ar8太高了。 OD也是帮他降到了ar7.5,od6

改完喊我

Updated
感谢人格QWQ

Gyro Zeppeli

94 posts

Joined January 2014

Gyro Zeppeli 2016-10-23T15:27:42+00:00

Pata-Mon wrote:
[Normal]
00:17:615 - 这里声太明显，建议把00:17:073 (6) - 换成俩短滑条
00:41:651 (2) - 这段一直主跟的人声，那这里同样
fix
01:08:758 (7,8) - 这里人声停住了，你8盖过的地方基本是空的，而01:09:481 - 到01:09:842 - 反而有鼓声，所以建议删掉8，然后7加一次折返，01:09:481 - 这里在放一个短滑条
fix
因为你主跟人声，所以01:32:794 - 要比01:32:071 (5) - 重要
好
01:47:613 (1) - 一般都很不建议这么长（都超过10s）的转盘，参考一下其他难度吧
好，加了
排列还是不太好看感觉太菜

GL~

Karen

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Joined August 2013

Karen 2016-10-24T02:56:07+00:00

qua了吧
怕他萌居然摸泡图很有上狗潜质啊

kanor

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kanor 2016-10-24T03:13:45+00:00

ohhhhhhhhh跪舔人格

moonlightleaf

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moonlightleaf 2016-10-24T03:25:10+00:00

graz

IamKwaN

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IamKwaN 2016-10-24T04:20:28+00:00

I do not remember myself suggesting putting anything in the Source. Is it really a song from デジモンアドベンチャー tri. ? If I remember correctly, it's only a song from the single, "re-fly" of Koji Wada.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY5VnM8AGM0

Would be appreciated if you could provide me some references, thanks!

- Angelia

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- Angelia 2016-10-24T06:42:21+00:00

boom

Lily Bread

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Joined December 2014

Lily Bread 2016-10-24T08:26:45+00:00

(那个“哇哦”的表情)
恭喜

sahuang

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Joined December 2014

sahuang 2016-10-24T08:49:19+00:00

？？？
Easy

Normal

etc.

kanor

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Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

kanor 2016-10-24T10:41:22+00:00

sahuang wrote:
？？？
Easy

Normal

etc.

ORZ之前没有这个毛病结果最后一次发过来的时候就没查了.....我背锅
normal最后一条红线被改了，导致后面全部偏了

alacat

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alacat 2016-10-24T12:46:13+00:00

Please fix these. https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/5564286

and Could you reply to KawN's post ?

IamKwaN wrote:
I do not remember myself suggesting putting anything in the Source. Is it really a song from デジモンアドベンチャー tri. ? If I remember correctly, it's only a song from the single, "re-fly" of Koji Wada.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY5VnM8AGM0

Would be appreciated if you could provide me some references, thanks!

I couldn't find this song from anime website and his official.

http://digimon-adventure.net/music/

http://www.lantis.jp/release-item/LACA-15485.html

kanor

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kanor 2016-10-24T12:56:11+00:00

alacat wrote:
Please fix these. https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/5564286

and Could you reply to KawN's post ?

IamKwaN wrote:
I do not remember myself suggesting putting anything in the Source. Is it really a song from デジモンアドベンチャー tri. ? If I remember correctly, it's only a song from the single, "re-fly" of Koji Wada.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY5VnM8AGM0

Would be appreciated if you could provide me some references, thanks!
I couldn't find this song from anime website and his official.

http://digimon-adventure.net/music/

http://www.lantis.jp/release-item/LACA-15485.html

sorry to post so late…… i have asked kwan about the source, yes i make a misstake

so im waiting kwan to dq it...that's ok i will fix the source ！
anyway thanks

btw, can i have a rebub after fixed the source？( ｰ̀εｰ́ )lfj is so busy that he hasnt be online for a week……

Last edited by kanor 2016-10-24T13:11:52+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

raririn

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Joined October 2011

raririn 2016-10-24T12:58:05+00:00

:/ .....

Kencho

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Kencho 2016-10-24T13:01:08+00:00

正好可以讓我優化一下容易點打xixi

kanor

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kanor 2016-10-24T13:29:19+00:00

all updated !
fix the source

Sonnyc

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Sonnyc 2016-10-24T13:51:23+00:00

Seeming the map has got disqualified, I'd like to add some additional mods.

Easy.
00:46:203 - 00:46:745 - Mind adding finishes here along the song?
00:46:745 (3,1) - 01:35:505 (4,1) - There is a really minor spacing issue that you can fix.
01:47:433 - I recommend you using a soft-finish here. The cymbol sound is pretty clear for me.

Normal.
00:11:983 - Consider adding a finish here.
00:14:543 - 00:16:712 - 00:35:507 - 00:36:230 - 00:41:290 - 00:42:013 - 00:45:661 - 00:47:102 - 00:47:816 - 00:48:530 - 00:49:245 - 00:49:963 - Add a clap.
00:45:085 (3) - 00:46:203 - 00:46:745 - 00:52:492 - 00:55:383 - Consider adding a finish along the strong cymbol sound.
00:48:173 (3,4) - The spacing is pretty much unbalanced. You'll want to keep it evenly since this is a 120 degree rotation pattern afterall.
01:08:753 (7,8) - According to the distance snapping, it is a correct spacing but when looking at this pattern, it is pretty unclear to tell the rhythms. Is (7) a reverse slider with 2 reverses, or only 1 reverse? Just avoid overlaps between those, and you'll see everything is fine.
01:24:291 (1,2) - Why suddenly the 0.8x spacing while others are having 1.00x?
01:47:433 - I recommend you using a soft-finish here. The cymbol sound is pretty clear for me.
01:56:089 (1) - You'll want to end this spinner where other diffs end.
So many hitsounds are missing.

Hard.
00:10:563 (1) - What's with the snap?
00:52:493 - 00:55:385 - Consider a finish.
01:37:132 (1) - 00:16:169 (5) - Inconsistent combo setting.
01:43:999 (3,4) - This jump feels way too much for this difficulty for this part of the song. Please make them closer.

Insane.
00:39:483 (1) - Considering there was a notable beat at 00:39:663, using an extended slider didn't felt tasteful here.
00:52:493 - 00:55:385 - Consider Finish.
00:55:114 (5) - The spacing inside the triple stream is inconsistent.
01:31:891 (4,1,2) - Not sure if it's an intended setting, but I believe the flow could be much more smoother.
01:47:433 - I recommend you using a soft-finish here. The cymbol sound is pretty clear for me.

Nirvana.
00:45:085 (1) - The end is unsnapped. I've tried adjusting the slider length manually, but it kinda results in some unwanted extra slider ticks so I just recommend you to adjust your rhythms to make no unsnaps happen.
00:52:493 (1) - 00:55:385 - Consider Finish.
01:03:336 (1,2,1) - First of all, 1/4 having a similar spacing with 1/2 didn't looked nice in pattern design. Also since there was a strong sound at 01:03:879, just leaving (2,1) as a close spacing didn't felt cool in emphasis.
01:47:433 - I recommend you using a soft-finish here. The cymbol sound is pretty clear for me.

The quality of the map feels nice enough, but I'd like to question the difficulty spread between normal and hard. Hard is mostly consisted of 1/2 and several 1/4 objects appear along a jump. While Normal is mm containing several 1/2 at kiai section but most other sections are 1/1 oriented. Rhythm wise, I believe Normal could be a little more harder. Other than the kiai, it was somewhat similar with easy, creating a big gap.

Besides, the overall quality of Normal was questionable. Most objects are placed with a flow oriented concept. It works fine in play-wise, and there aren't much to get hindered according to the RC. But I just don't get any quality here. Since you are focusing on flows, I feel there are things that could get smoother. Such as 01:04:778 (3,4,5), it could be something like http://puu.sh/rTWsz/035004c33f.jpg so the flow towards the slider feels less forced.

Lobelia

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Lobelia 2016-10-24T14:16:14+00:00

Sonnyc wrote:
Hard.
00:10:563 (1) - What's with the snap?
00:52:493 - 00:55:385 - Consider a finish.
01:37:132 (1) - 00:16:169 (5) - Inconsistent combo setting.
01:43:999 (3,4) - This jump feels way too much for this difficulty for this part of the song. Please make them closer.
all fix,thank you Sonnyc~~

fixed

osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 63427
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
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[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
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TimelineZoom: 2.7

[Metadata]
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TitleUnicode:re-fly
Artist:Koji Wada
ArtistUnicode:和田光司
Creator:kanor
Version:Abhor's Hard
Source:
Tags:Digimon Adventure monster refly Kouji Gyro Zeppeli [_Abhor_] Kencho デジモンアドベンチャー tri.
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别着急啦这次QAQ你弄完找别人检查一下，不然又弄得到处unsnap了

kanor

925 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

kanor 2016-10-24T14:24:54+00:00

Sonnyc wrote:
Seeming the map has got disqualified, I'd like to add some additional mods.

Easy.
00:46:203 - 00:46:745 - Mind adding finishes here along the song? well, u r right
00:46:745 (3,1) - 01:35:505 (4,1) - There is a really minor spacing issue that you can fix. OK,fixed
01:47:433 - I recommend you using a soft-finish here. The cymbol sound is pretty clear for me. changed it

Insane.
00:39:483 (1) - Considering there was a notable beat at 00:39:663, using an extended slider didn't felt tasteful here. OK,fixed
00:52:493 - 00:55:385 - Consider Finish. added00:55:385 - is a clap, not real need to finish imo....
00:55:114 (5) - The spacing inside the triple stream is inconsistent. fixed
01:31:891 (4,1,2) - Not sure if it's an intended setting, but I believe the flow could be much more smoother. umm......the flow is smooth enouth imo....
01:47:433 - I recommend you using a soft-finish here. The cymbol sound is pretty clear for me. OK,fixedit

Last edited by kanor 2016-10-24T14:28:45+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Kencho

952 posts

Joined August 2013

Kencho 2016-10-24T14:25:37+00:00

Sonnyc wrote:
Nirvana.
00:45:085 (1) - The end is unsnapped. I've tried adjusting the slider length manually, but it kinda results in some unwanted extra slider ticks so I just recommend you to adjust your rhythms to make no unsnaps happen. Yea, I have been fixed.
00:52:493 (1) - 00:55:385 - Consider Finish. Fixed 00:52:493 (1) - but keep 00:55:385 -
01:03:336 (1,2,1) - First of all, 1/4 having a similar spacing with 1/2 didn't looked nice in pattern design. Also since there was a strong sound at 01:03:879, just leaving (2,1) as a close spacing didn't felt cool in emphasis. ok
01:47:433 - I recommend you using a soft-finish here. The cymbol sound is pretty clear for me. Cool

The quality of the map feels nice enough, but I'd like to question the difficulty spread between normal and hard. Hard is mostly consisted of 1/2 and several 1/4 objects appear along a jump. While Normal is mm containing several 1/2 at kiai section but most other sections are 1/1 oriented. Rhythm wise, I believe Normal could be a little more harder. Other than the kiai, it was somewhat similar with easy, creating a big gap.
Besides, the overall quality of Normal was questionable. Most objects are placed with a flow oriented concept. It works fine in play-wise, and there aren't much to get hindered according to the RC. But I just don't get any quality here. Since you are focusing on flows, I feel there are things that could get smoother. Such as 01:04:778 (3,4,5), it could be something like http://puu.sh/rTWsz/035004c33f.jpg so the flow towards the slider feels less forced.

Thanks for mod

Kencho's Nirvana

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230,237,118095,1,0,0:0:0:0:
171,169,118276,2,0,L|166:110,1,60.0000022888184,0|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
244,63,118638,2,0,L|249:4,1,60.0000022888184,0|0,3:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:

Yea I also think that the difficulty spread between Normal and Hard is a little large. However, spread between Hard and Insane is also. Star rating : 1.95 -> 3.24(+1.29) -> 4.47(+1.23). Hit objects : 190 -> 306(+116) -> 425(+119). Therefore, I think the spread is balanced imo. Moreover, about the quality of Normal. It is a subjective thing, the GDer in question is a newbie mapper. So the overall quality of the map would not quite well. However, I think the map is not really bad. The playability is qualified imo. But maybe we need more different opinions about this.

Gyro Zeppeli

94 posts

Joined January 2014

Gyro Zeppeli 2016-10-24T15:18:49+00:00

Sonnyc wrote:
Normal.
00:11:983 - Consider adding a finish here.
00:14:543 - 00:16:712 - 00:35:507 - 00:36:230 - 00:41:290 - 00:42:013 - 00:45:661 - 00:47:102 - 00:47:816 - 00:48:530 - 00:49:245 - 00:49:963 - Add a clap.
00:45:085 (3) - 00:46:203 - 00:46:745 - 00:52:492 - 00:55:383 - Consider adding a finish along the strong cymbol sound.
FIX, it is really i missed
00:48:173 (3,4) - The spacing is pretty much unbalanced. You'll want to keep it evenly since this is a 120 degree rotation pattern afterall.
FIX
01:08:753 (7,8) - According to the distance snapping, it is a correct spacing but when looking at this pattern, it is pretty unclear to tell the rhythms. Is (7) a reverse slider with 2 reverses, or only 1 reverse? Just avoid overlaps between those, and you'll see everything is fine.
i get it, good!
01:24:291 (1,2) - Why suddenly the 0.8x spacing while others are having 1.00x?
mistake, fix.
01:47:433 - I recommend you using a soft-finish here. The cymbol sound is pretty clear for me.
it really have finish here
01:56:089 (1) - You'll want to end this spinner where other diffs end.
OK
So many hitsounds are missing.
sry;w;