I don't even want to start to explain how wrong this sentence is.Backfire wrote:
Yay! Glad you're finally working on it ^^
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Oh wait, I see. Sorry D:peppy wrote:
I don't even want to start to explain how wrong this sentence is.Backfire wrote:
Yay! Glad you're finally working on it ^^
Finally working on it?Backfire wrote:
What do you mean...?
Good luck peppy, this is a sign from what's coming in a nearby future xD!
Let's get prepared for 10k players+ online
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Let's get prepared for 10k players+ online
!What I meant to say was glad you're working on bancho, since I was worried that it might go into downtime again, making me lose scores like it did last time. If that also makes no sense, then I apoligize.
Bancho having a rough week ~.~ . How about stop spectating others? Is that will help 
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a) Bancho going down does not make you lose scores, unless you were in a multiplayer game which is interrupted.
b) Apology is not required; it's always interesting to hear things from a users' perspective.
Stopping spectating won't really do much (I would disable it server-side if it did
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b) Apology is not required; it's always interesting to hear things from a users' perspective.
Stopping spectating won't really do much (I would disable it server-side if it did
).I'm assuming the red line in the chart is supposedly some sort of limit?
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The red line is nothing important. It is known as "95th percentile bandwidth calculations". The fact the red line is that high means this month is going to be expensive, though!
lol expensive..peppy wrote:
The red line is nothing important. It is known as "95th percentile bandwidth calculations". The fact the red line is that high means this month is going to be expensive, though!
hope more osuers can become supporters
I got the money to donate, but dont have the methods to donate. I still saying no for credit card for now.
-Donates.....socks-peppy wrote:
The red line is nothing important. It is known as "95th percentile bandwidth calculations". The fact the red line is that high means this month is going to be expensive, though!
Is that enough to help :3?
mekadon_old
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I never said it was a problem. Don't jump to conclusions please. Also, I wouldn't consider donating to Japan if it meant Japanese osu! players lost their form of entertainment (I think that would be an overall negative contribution).
Wish you a good luck on doing your job 
You are donating for Japan's crisis, For How long, I suppose?
I hope bancho still survives & osu! doesn't loses its appeal until you upgraded the harddrive/server/Idon'tknowexactly.
I hope bancho still survives & osu! doesn't loses its appeal until you upgraded the harddrive/server/Idon'tknowexactly.
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Way to miss the point. Again. I *highly* suggest reading the original article before posting.
peppy is right. Data is increasing by expotentially, so expanding server won't help cause it will increase server capacity arithmetically, so server capacity will be full soon even peppy expands server without fixing those issues. So that's why we need to fix fundamental problems first, I guess?
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Data isn't the problem, unfortunately (data can be easily fixed by allocating more bandwidth). The problem is in implementation.
Well, that was the way I interprete the situation. I'm no expert about those things, so I guess I used those words without understanding them properly :/
Summary: I failed lol
Summary: I failed lol
Good luck with the changes. I take it you're going with a complete architecture change (event-based model maybe?) or something along those lines?
Anyway sounds like an interesting problem - would love to help out
Anyway sounds like an interesting problem - would love to help out
Maybe you should take bancho offline for a week or two just to remind everyone you are doing this totally on your own personal time. Nobody is paying you to do this =p last I checked, osu! wasn't "Pay To Play". Now, let me run from the masses before I get slaughtered for suggesting something that can get me placed on a hit-list of some sort.peppy wrote:
I don't even want to start to explain how wrong this sentence is.Backfire wrote:
Yay! Glad you're finally working on it ^^
Anyhow, glad you are working on the problem. And I'm sure I'm not the only person that appreciates your hard-work. Keep up the good work. I'm soo gonna buy you a beer someday. (which might be soon, since I might be coming to Perth in a few months to give client based training on our software.)
glad to see you've identified the problem and have been working on possible fixes.
i'm wondering how much of the data that gets sent to us is really needed. the online users list comes to mind. i imagine it isn't a huge piece of the puzzle, but is that information sent to each user at regular intervals or is it only sent when the list is shown client-side?
the multiplayer scoreboard is also something that could probably be cut back in terms of how often the information is updated. is that data sent even if the player has scoreboards hidden? also sending each note hit is something that i don't find extraordinarily useful. it's often pretty distracting if multiple players are scoring near 100% on a beatmap and latency causes all of those players to swap positions constantly because of the gaps between where the user is at in the beatmap and the data that has been received. it might be more useful to take out the individual note score images and just send a full list update after every note grouping or something.
just thinking out loud, i'm guessing you've already thought about all of this, heh.
i'm wondering how much of the data that gets sent to us is really needed. the online users list comes to mind. i imagine it isn't a huge piece of the puzzle, but is that information sent to each user at regular intervals or is it only sent when the list is shown client-side?
the multiplayer scoreboard is also something that could probably be cut back in terms of how often the information is updated. is that data sent even if the player has scoreboards hidden? also sending each note hit is something that i don't find extraordinarily useful. it's often pretty distracting if multiple players are scoring near 100% on a beatmap and latency causes all of those players to swap positions constantly because of the gaps between where the user is at in the beatmap and the data that has been received. it might be more useful to take out the individual note score images and just send a full list update after every note grouping or something.
just thinking out loud, i'm guessing you've already thought about all of this, heh.
Changes are streamed. Yes, this is a major resource hog.
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User info is only sent when being displayed. Multiplayer scoreboards are not togglable yet. I won't stop you posting thoughts on implementation, but I don't need them either .
.'tis my nature as a curious and arrogant software developer. my apologies.
its ok
be relaxed
take your time about it
be relaxed
take your time about it
How about... TWO BANCHOBOTS!!?!?? One for the Northern Hemisphere and one for the Sout-.... Wait a minute...
I'm just thinking, with Japan currently in crisis, we're still hitting 3.8k users. Imagine the load increase when Japan is back up and running. It may take about 2-4 months to see some sort of increase, but it's going to be big.
"LOLZ! BANCHO GO SLOW N CRASH? MORE RAMZ! KBYE."
I'd say an overhaul of what's really being deemed as "too much to process" sort of thing. What ever is doing the most damage in the form of load time, see if there's any way to lower the amount it's sending to help with it.
If not, just chuck in another strip of RAM. RAM fixes everything!
*[Sean] Has fled the scene*
I'm just thinking, with Japan currently in crisis, we're still hitting 3.8k users. Imagine the load increase when Japan is back up and running. It may take about 2-4 months to see some sort of increase, but it's going to be big.
"LOLZ! BANCHO GO SLOW N CRASH? MORE RAMZ! KBYE."
I'd say an overhaul of what's really being deemed as "too much to process" sort of thing. What ever is doing the most damage in the form of load time, see if there's any way to lower the amount it's sending to help with it.
If not, just chuck in another strip of RAM. RAM fixes everything!
*[Sean] Has fled the scene*
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Let me guess: one male and one female bancho so they can have banchobabbies? 
I think you misunderstood; the fact there is a crisis is increasing the load. It should drop down after Japan recovers it's infrastructure. (A lot of MMOs have been down in Japan to reduce power/network load, including some that share very large player bases with osu!)
I think you misunderstood; the fact there is a crisis is increasing the load. It should drop down after Japan recovers it's infrastructure. (A lot of MMOs have been down in Japan to reduce power/network load, including some that share very large player bases with osu!)
Right, peppy. We could see a decrease in load if Japan's repairs are done.
oh my!.. that's why i can't play OSU with my friends...
, i hope OSU will be good as fixed well
BTW thx 4 the information
, i hope OSU will be good as fixed well BTW thx 4 the information
IkkiMinami
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Bancho is currently running at full capacity. Disconnections today/yesterday will be your end (or the routing in-between).
full capacity? wow.
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As in it is fine.
yay, thats good to hear. *high fives peppy*
Damn, Peppy, you should rest a lot after this Bancho job.
Seriously, it's for your own health.. I'm worried about you.
Players should stop complaining about 'I always d/c.. I hate bancho..' blah blah..
This guy.. created Osu! for the computer.. and I never ever thought Osu!'ll grow this big!
P.S. Shinde.. I miss it when it was like 80 players max. That was fucking awesome!!
Seriously, it's for your own health.. I'm worried about you.
Players should stop complaining about 'I always d/c.. I hate bancho..' blah blah..
This guy.. created Osu! for the computer.. and I never ever thought Osu!'ll grow this big!
P.S. Shinde.. I miss it when it was like 80 players max. That was fucking awesome!!
Other than not logging into Banchoo, is there another way to reduce the load?
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The test build is now updated to connect to the new version of bancho. Can anyone who has a bit of time connect and check it out, make sure everything is working correctly?
Bugtracker is filling slowlypeppy wrote:
The test build is now updated to connect to the new version of bancho. Can anyone who has a bit of time connect and check it out, make sure everything is working correctly?
If you have your Online users sorted by Accuracy or any other tab that has been removed, it just crashes when you hit F9.peppy wrote:
The test build is now updated to connect to the new version of bancho. Can anyone who has a bit of time connect and check it out, make sure everything is working correctly?
https://osu.sifterapp.com/Kitsunemimi wrote:
If you have your Online users sorted by Accuracy or any other tab that has been removed, it just crashes when you hit F9.peppy wrote:
The test build is now updated to connect to the new version of bancho. Can anyone who has a bit of time connect and check it out, make sure everything is working correctly?
How cute. x3peppy wrote:
Let me guess: one male and one female bancho so they can have banchobabbies?
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*points and smiles*
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What does this even mean?kenny012012 wrote:
Oh no~Lag