1. Last Love (5,38 stars, 1321 notes)

DTM9 Nowa wrote:

M4M from your queue
my map : https://osu.ppy.sh/s/472890

00:13:281 (4) - Has to be NC as you changed the slider velocity k

00:14:710 (1,3,5) - Technically there is nothing wrong with this pattern but it's hard to read. Having the sliders in a hexagon shape would be a better option imo (You did something like this here 01:57:388 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - )
maybe you didn't notice but I'm gradually getting bigger with the triangle/hexagon sliderparts und thus this being the first one I just wanted it to be somewhat close
00:20:781 (2,3) - There are some visible overlapping between some of the notes. Consider on fixing it you might not like it but they are intentional

00:30:424 (1,2,3) - Make the distance equal with the sliderend|note and note|sliderhead oops ye fixed

Personally i would NC every big white tick because you change the patterns quite often after all (for example this 00:43:281 (6) - ) Consider on checking through the whole map this in mind Ugh extras with combos of 6 I don't like it and the important patterns I did NC

For some reason the map feels kinda repetitive. Nothing wrong with that but for me it felt that after playing the first 10 seconds i would be able to somewhat predict what is coming (not literally but like you know what i mean rite?). Sohuld I do a statement ... yes I think so well: This map is my way of interpretation this song. And this song really means alot to me (insert sad lyf story here) well now for the slow parts I interpretated them as suffer and loneliness and that is just repetive just like the feelings. I have experienced it myself If you are lonely you aren't just for one day ... now the contrast I have to the jumpy parts are the happy parts of life. They have alot of energy and thus are really energetic as expressed with the big jumps.

01:44:620 - Here is a notable drum hit Hmm I didn't notice it ... well I'm actually focussing on the 2 jumps afterward and I like the triplet slider I have leading into it really

01:46:317 (4,7) - Blanket properly oops

02:27:388 (4) - x330|y76 ? isn't a stack (as I used to make these jumps) but it looks damn well

02:36:674 (2) - Has to be NCd as you changed the SV (again)
02:36:674 (2) - ^ I don't think so many NCs are healthy ... will keep until ppl say otherwise

02:50:067 (10,1,2,3) - I'd personally avoid stacking like this But it works so good ; _ ;

03:50:424 - Why change the SV here? (No sliders before the next change of SV) Actually only to stop kiai ... musteve accidently do that
Same problem/thing/whatever here 04:43:995 - reason being that it got fucked up while I was doing my hitsounds -> fixed

03:55:424 - Missed some hits here just the guitar swining out I don't feel like plaing anything I like the emptyness

04:08:192 (8,1,2,3) - This turn doesn't work as this 04:08:370 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - is a pattern by itself and the (1) does not belong to it. You have to make the stream much more curved or find an another solution for the flow to work hmm I think I fixed it

Also this NC is useless 04:08:727 (1) - tru

Why do you map only the drums here 04:16:138 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - and ignore them completely in the next part? It is way to complex for the actuall slow part coming and the slowly ending streams with the 1/3 notes getting closer and closer ... it just represents emptiness

And NC these 05:10:960 (2,3) - as said before

Map isn't really my type (I can't comment on the jumps) but that is what i found. Fairly clean and seems to be fun to play.
Good Luck!~

O-Moei wrote:

Hi !, my very very late 💑M4M request
2 days ago, sorry ;w; That ain late lol

Icon Explanation :
✨ = Suggestion
💧 = Uuhhh?
💥 = Warning !!!

Oke, let's go !

General :
Won't make the BG to 1366x768 for high quality ? dunno how to ; _ ;

Last Love :
✨00:34:888 (1,7) - Stack this oops
✨01:34:710 (7) - NC and remove here 01:35:067 (1) - . I can hear the rhythm changed there ye
✨01:50:245 (1) - Remove NC and starts NC here 01:50:424 (2) - ?. Readibility :3 nope those tw0 notes belong together
✨02:38:817 (1) - Remove NC and start here 02:38:995 (3) - ? I don't like the NC starting under a triplet I just NC the triplet
✨02:40:245 (1) - ^ 02:40:424 (3) - ?
✨03:10:245 (1) - ^ 03:10:424 (3) - ?
✨04:38:817 (1) - ^ 04:38:995 (2) - ?
✨05:13:102 (1) - ^ 05:13:281 (3) - ?
✨03:50:245 (8,1) - Holy !!! xD. How about putting 03:50:067 (7) - to x160y121 , then 03:50:424 (1) - to x267y27 ?. Played really well like this in my ranks lol ima stick to my polygons :/
💧04:13:281 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - Suddenly follow drums hits, eh ?. I can also listen drum hits beyond some after it (example :04:24:710 (2,3,4,5,6) - ). For some reasons, it's confusing mapping vocals (kinda)
💧04:55:602 (2,3) - Too far, I guess. The spacing for these jump inconsistent with other jumps around it ye
💧05:15:245 (4) - NC this, because you've NC this part before ( 02:40:960 (1,2,3,4) - ) ye
✨05:17:567 (7,1) - 05:20:424 (7,1) - 05:23:281 (7,1) - 05:28:995 (7,1) - Try to NC these (7) then remove the (1). Those (7) contain a higher sound
ye Idk what I did there to begin with lol


Oke, that's all from me. All the best ! :3
I will never bored to remind the mapper like this, but, try to recheck and recheck again some part of my mods that may off from you concepts, since its 5 minute length. Like NCing which I don't understand xD

Good luck !

pinataman wrote:

Hi, here from my queue. Hope this helps.

I have a lot of personal opinions about this map, most of which aren't useful to you, but I want to say them anyway because they affect how I mod your map. Your neutral mapping seems too safe (see the last part of this rant). I don't like the choice of track of the music on the kiai, I think you should focus more on the melody instead of the drums. The focus/emphasis at this part 03:45:245 (3) – isn't on the cymbals, I think you should only have your big jumps into these finishes. And finally, in calmer places like 00:58:995 (1) - , you don't add much emphasis with spacing. They don't have to be big jumps, but making everything the same DS is really bland and doesn't really convey what's going on in the song well. This is partly the song not having a lot of intensity in these spots, but there still is intensity to be given. For instance, downbeats like 01:01:852 (1) – are usually strong and might be nice to have slightly stronger spacing. And if you think jumps are too intense, why not decrease the note density by using longer sliders to convey the supposedly calmer section? This will make your neutral mapping in the calm parts of the song convey a little more emotion. If you want more discussion about spacing emphasis, you could watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAYm50d6XMw , though the basic jist is “use spacing to emphasize the music.” If you significantly change the map over this issue, I wouldn't mind doing a quick follow up if you want an opinion, or if you have any questions about spacing you can find me in game.
I have stated why I mapped this in the mod before ^^"

You use a lot of safe patterns, so it's hard to fault you on your structure/design

00:13:281 (4) – NC? It is a NC ... you had wrong version prolly

00:20:781 (2,3) – and 00:21:317 (4,5) – This overlap doesn't look great. This is one advantage to using more DS changes that you're able to avoid these overlaps more. I actually really like this kind of overlaping :/
03:01:138 (7,1) – again, overlaps like these aren't great players won't notice ...

00:55:424 (8,9,1) – The structure of this could probably be improved. Rotate these three objects 11 degrees and you'll see how they don't have much symmetry. If you make (9) a 120 degree rotation of (8), and if you make (1) a scaled up by 2.0 version of a 240 degree rotated copy of (8), then you can get something like http://puu.sh/qAc1p/2b09ed2d45.jpg or http://puu.sh/qAc7d/437a1bc0fb.jpg hmm they are actuall symetric with 120° turns ... the 8 and 9 are part of a trianglular patter (like the ones I use throughout the whole map) but since the 1 is a downbeat and the vocal is kicking in I am changing the pattern.

02:12:388 (3,4) – This should be a jump since the (4) note is quite strong. (This applies to the other kiais as well) might think about changing it ... though my concept here just really was emphasizing the vocals and breaking the flow for the drumroll/stream to build up a dropp again leading into the actual kiai time

02:40:602 - the violin has a note here, so this might be better as a circle rather than a slider end. ye your prolly right changed

03:53:281 (1) – A long slider might not be the best rhythm choice. I know you're going with the guitar, but this is still a rhythm game, so the long slider isn't as interactive for the player as going with the drums here. You can switch to the guitar at 03:58:638 (3) – since there's enough rhythm in there, so maybe that will work I disagree ... the guitar is definetly prominent and thus I'm mapping it ... also the part after the 2nd kiai is supposed to be chill so just long sliders and close streams

05:17:924 (1,2,3,4,5,6) – This DS feels too big. Let the louder drums at 05:20:781 (1,2,3,4,5,6) – have the bigger emphasis with the bigger spacing and let 05:17:924 (1,2,3,4,5,6) – be more of a set up for the bigger spacing, like your teasing the player with the upcoming big DS by making 05:17:924 (1,2,3,4,5,6) – only have a medium DS.
05:23:638 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^ I know there are emphasis changes that I'm not really embodying but I'm actually only trying to emphasize the downbeats and some polygonial jumps which get tenser only leading into that calm slider to build it right up again was the best choice in my opinion

Good luck!

O-Moei wrote:

Yeh !, forgot to put the metadata ;w;

Source : ギルティクラウン
Tags : koeda opening ryo full version guilty crown Inori Yuzuhira

Actually, I caught sickness now, not really in a good condition. Sorry if something really off
Once again, sorry ;w;


#RIPmodding

thank you so much for the metadata

Kenchocow wrote:

Hey, Hi

Short NM cus the map already looks sick as it is. O-O ok

Sound:
02:37:751 (4) - Custom hitsound sounds off (too late). hmm I don't hear that (I used hitsounds from ranked maps so should be fine
03:26:497 (2) - " " should be on 3 following her voice. ye
02:10:247 (7) - " " should be the same as 5. k dad
02:12:212 (2) - " " should be on 3. just gonna leave it there
02:40:247 (1,2,3) - These three should have Clap. oops messed it uo whilst I was applying another mod I guess
02:40:604 (4) - This one too + should have soft-hitwhistle7. clap added ... hitwhistle7 is just wrong
02:40:783 (5) - Not on this one. I hear it there though
02:40:962 (1,2) - These two shouldn't have anything. the emptyness of hitsound for such an intense part... I dislike
02:41:140 (3) - This one should only have Finish. finishes sound wrong to me here
02:41:319 (4) - This one aswell. ^
04:46:678 (4) - Should have soft-hitwhistle17 on this one. 17 is a completly wrong octave ... so no
05:14:892 (2) - Should have soft-hitwhistle7. same as before

Notes:
01:36:144 (1) - The jump here should follow the accentuation of the sound marked by the bass drum and be placed lower to make it seem more natural. Such a good idea fixed
05:05:245 (3) - I find that overlapped note a bit too harsh there. Also seems too close from 2 and 4. I'd move it just a bit to the left to avoid getting it hidden by the slider-end.regarding the polygon I used this is completly fine and I have not seen a player have trouble with it

Thanks for the mod
I don't know why I deserve this but thank you so much

rakuenslove wrote:

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first I think you are too calm with the beginning where you could simply go more agressive (ur choice to make u can ignore this part) , it's a 5* afterall ;; parts like

00:33:817 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
03:10:245 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -

could be more 'explosive' , not much just a bit explained in an above post bla bla my choice of interpretating of this song

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00:55:453 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - why not move 9-10-1 to the right a bit make this look cuter or set -circle 1 - apart from this pattern since that's where the strongest sound comes since i see you wanna spread them anyway I really like the patter I have right now :/

01:33:817 (2) - ur choice of jump spacing is interesting however my opinion on it is: the song starts at circle 2 <-- that one , then the intensity climbs up to 01:37:567 (1) - and then goes down a bit then vocals so if you still want different jump spacing over this part i would increase the spacings from 01:33:817 (2) - to 01:37:567 (1) - and then slowly decrease spacing untill vocals sound like a good idea I applied and changed the jumps in general for a more circular flow ... hope it feels good

02:34:710 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this kind of pattern shouldn't be here idk xD at least not for me for me it's like that one last bit before all the calm ...

03:17:924 (3) - from what I see you wanted the circles in a line but I don't think it plays good .. find another place for this circle changed pattern~

not a mod = 03:20:067 (7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - omg i love this patern ikr

03:32:031 (7,8,1) - make transition here more smooth ~ increase spacing between 7 and 8 Ugh no because that's simply the pattern I'm pursuing ... slider with a circle in direction of the flow with a certain distance

u started well but u ended kinda poor 03:46:674 (4,5,6,7) - with this, not saying you should change it just personal opinion i don't rly like it Might change in the future

03:50:067 (7,8,1) - pls don't do this , kinda unexpected nerf a bit nerfed (a bit)

04:46:138 (1,2,3,4) - this doesn't really make sense, move 3 under 1 or change the pattern, i can see you want it under the stream but .... I don't get your point ... stream blankets 3 perfectly and the increasing distance is just building up intensity

fuk man that ending is butt clenching but kinda deserved XDDDDDD

mod is from player perspective


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[ RSI ] wrote:

heyo, great map man, fun to play, just a couple small issues :3

ok, first off, the slow section starting here 00:36:138 (1) - , i think that it would fit it a lot better if you made it more long slow sliders than what you have done now, not that what you have done does not technically fit the music, because imo it does, but because as it is now, it felt more intense playing it than the musically more intense section before it. As in, the section before actually had more longer sliders and "slow feeling" stuff than the slow section. Just thought i should point that out especially when you do stuff like this 00:37:567 (5,6,7) - (while it looks pretty, i do not think it fits the music the best) at least lower the sv Explained my reasoning before ; _ ;welp ehhtoo I think we are just of different opinions here sry ; _ ;
00:06:674 (6,1) - fix overlap pls oops

since you have made lots of intentional overlaps, i shall assume this was supposed to be an overlap? 00:48:995 (5,8) - if so fix :3 It was not and it isn't supposed to be one but If I would stack it it wouldn't fit the DS and I don't think it really is noticable to players so ... just gonna leave it

01:24:710 (1) - while yes you are following the vocals here, it is strange having a strong drum in the middle of the slider, i would prefer having a hit circle or some kind of recognition of the that strong drum In my opinion that would just totally destroy the emphasis I'm actually puttinjg on the vocals :/

01:50:245 (1) - I personally think this would look better if you had it on the other side of 01:49:888 (2) - because it felt weird when i played it seeing it move backwards, towards the direction i just came. Would feel better if it was a "continuation" of the same motion of the jump 01:49:710 (1,2) - and have the change in motion be the jump from 01:50:245 (1,2) - I totally agree and am confused wtf I was thinking lol

02:12:210 (2,3,4) - why the sudden decrease in ds here? if anything it should be larger imo because it is at the end of a buildup-ish section lemme just paste the explanation

Yukiyo wrote:

19:36 DeRandom Otaku: 02:12:031 (1,2) - why are they sooooo spaced and next circle is soo close?
19:36 Yukiyo: because of the drumroll coming next
19:36 Yukiyo: I am essentailly killing the flow to build up a drop yet again
19:37 DeRandom Otaku: lol
19:37 Yukiyo: and
19:37 Yukiyo: the jumps reseamble the strong voice of the singer
19:37 DeRandom Otaku: yea i noticed
19:37 Yukiyo: where as the close is the drums leading in yet a kiai time
19:38 DeRandom Otaku: ik ik .. i noticed
19:38 DeRandom Otaku: lol

Hope it is enough if an explanation if not ... I essentailly felt like it needed a nother mini drop before the kiai so I intentionally killed the flow after the emphasis of the vocals for that drumroll to feel like a build up again ... that's also why it isn't directly leading into the 1st kiai slider because I needed that "jump" as the drop (meaning ->02:13:102 (10,1) - )

03:26:495 (2,3,4) - same here ^ (if you have a valid reason behind these sudden ds drops then do not change, i would just like to here a reason lol) c above :^)

03:56:138 (2) - I think the slider should end 03:58:281 - and have a hitcircle where the slider ends as of now, since it is the start of the next "section" and it is a strong note yas


04:18:995 (1,2,3,4,5) - for the drum sections here, I think the sound that you are following for the first stack on each double (in other words the 04:18:995 (1,2,3,4,5) - of 04:18:995 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - ) starts a little sooner than what you have placed. Anyways the reason why i highlighted those 2 out of that entire drum section is because 04:18:995 (1) - is such a different sounding a strong note, i think it would be better to have it a start of a slider or a separate note that you then jump from to a triplet that would be here 04:19:173 (3,4,5) - I can see your point but I'd really avoid doing something fancy here :/

04:52:388 (8,1,2) - i generally dislike "straight flow" i would appreciate if you made the angle sharper or place 04:52:567 (1) - more in the center between 04:52:388 (8,2) - to make it play better rite changed

well, i think you get the idea of what i am saying, there are several other problems i saw but are essentially the same as what i posted, so you should be able to fix those :3

GL with your map man, good job so far I don't know if I can do it ~-~

awesometonychen wrote:

nice map have this free mod
I am new to modding I am sorry of none of this helps

00:39:531 (2) - (96,224)? wanting staight flow also emphasizing the piano a bit
01:21:317 (6) - (160,96) looks better imo traingle shpae won't change
01:46:674 (6) - i feel that placing this circle at (376,152) fits better and plays into next combo flows terrible imo
02:01:138 (8,9,10,11) - 8 looks too far and 11 looks too close you're right
02:17:031 (4) - blanket? I might even consider curving 02:16:138 (1) no I want to keep my concept
you did it here in the same combo 02:17:745 (7,8) I had to do this because I can't place objects outside the playarea (in direction of the slider
02:59:710 (3) - blanket is slightly off center fixed

- Angelia wrote:

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00:06:317 (5) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5880101 这个节奏(Can try this rhythm) switchup rhythm abit cuz of vocals

00:55:424 (8) - 可以试试扳歪(bend) I want it straight

01:22:388 (2) - 不好看(unwatchable) Ugh? what about it ;_;

01:22:924 (3) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5880027可以试试这样这个节奏(Can try this rhythm) I like the current rhythm

01:26:852 (4,5) - 太近了 (Far from) I think this is not such a big problem

01:26:674 (2) - 要贴吗 (Stick together) ^

01:30:960 (2,3) - delete 后面的往前移 example : https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5880041 因为这段的重音在红线上(because Stress on the red line) I know but I think the drums have priority in this one

03:00:424 (5) - 不好看(unwatchable) Why ; _;

03:23:638 (1) - nc I'm accentiating the form of the stream with them

03:23:995 (9) - nc ^

03:24:352 (1) - nc^

03:53:281 (1) - 不好看↑↑↑↑ It's not that bad ;_;

03:58:460 (3) - nc ye

04:10:424 (5) - nc ye

04:25:960 (5) - delete This mapping was all about how I felt like the map was talking to me ... it felt lonely and thus I mapped such parts repetitive
04:26:138 (5) - 移动 04:25:960 (5) - ^

04:26:674 (7) -
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5880078这个节奏如何(Can try this rhythm) ^

04:40:424 (6) - nc no

04:48:995 (6) - NC no
04:49:710 (1) - nc no

05:33:102 (2) - nc no

打得很爽 Thanks <3GL 射你一颗星星 Thanks for the star <3

Yamicchi wrote:

Hi c: M4M in return
[General]
I don't know if this is because of my PC or what but when you choose the preview timing point at 02:13:102 - it will start at 02:12:210 - instead, I really don't know but it just happen on your map only, so if you have this issue too then place the preview timing point at 02:13:817 - Nice catch I had that same problem
SR-buffed map ;w; I feel difficult only at the jumps ;w; so I guess that makes the map a pp pool? xd It's my way of understanding the song ........ as explain in mods before........ why ppl always rant about this
[Last love]
00:10:067 (9) - must ask why do you double the DS here? The beat is not that strong I think last 3 notes before the little break I wanted them to be special concering the piano and stuff
00:13:281 (1) - one of the strongest beat but the DS shows backward...increase the DS maybe? as I explained in many mods above ;_; this really is just my way of feeling about this song ... it being repetitive becausse it's so sad bla bla bla
00:33:817 (2) - downbeat am I right? so I think higher DS would be fine That's no downbeat
00:44:352 (9) - I'd make this slider 2 circles instead, like what you did in 00:38:638 (8,9) - good idea
00:36:138 - and 00:41:852 - have the same beat, how about making 138 the same with 852? all about the vocals ... in the first the vocal is streched in the second the vocal is going ham because of the many different words so I made it a 1/2 instead of 1/1
00:50:424 - ^ ^
00:53:281 (1) - DS increase like what you did in 00:41:582 - and 00:47:567 - I guess ye
01:01:495 (9) - blanket improve, and yes, it is not perfect yet. Have a closer look I looked as close as I could ... looks perfect to me
01:27:567 - 01:30:424 - 01:53:281 - and some more you did a really bad emphasis. With your mapping style like this it's impossible to fix some of those but yea please try. bad ephasis in your opinion ;_;
01:49:888 (2) - X104 Y156. Perfectly straight ok
01:56:138 (1) - move the last white dot a bit down? the slider end and the (2) isn't parallel yet ye hope I fixed it
03:15:960 (11) - the current location has 2 issues. First is as you called build-up, then you should keep the DS as from 8->9->10 or increase a bit more like from 7->8. Second is the emphasis problem with (1), DS too small. This isn't the buildup yet and I think the little bit of emphasis just works fine
03:46:138 (1) - definitely not a beat to NC. Why not NC at 03:45:781 - and 03:46:852 - instead? fixed
04:21:674 (1,2) - just 2 small warm-up beats, so how about stack with (3)? I don't like such patterns
04:36:138 (1) - this deserves more DS as I mentioned inb4 when I said there are some more. Also re-blanket? Neither its blanket with 04:35:602 - or 04:37:210 - is perfect yet. meh yeah I tried
05:05:781 - NC part as I said inb4
05:14:710 (1) - I think remove NC, what is this NC for? same NC as in 05:14:710 (1) -
That last jump...
Tbh maps with full blanket like this is kinda annoying, cause neither good or bad suggestions are easy to be applied due to those blankets. Eventho it's nice, but hey why so much blanket when no one except mappers/modders can see? All they care is the flow and patterns that's why I always love the flow maps than blanket stuffs. This is not a bad map, it's just a bit stereotypes. Look on the bright side, it's pp map lol. Good luck!

Yukiyo wrote:

also "no one except mappers/modders can see" welp I as a player even before starting to map always was fascinated by those so called "blankets"
I even payed close attention to them while playing and stuff they made the map just look so much better
>->

Arphimigon wrote:

Heya! Wanna leave my 2 cents on the mappu!
This is pretty much pure opinion statements, so I won't be mad for rejects!

I didn't expect you to mod this ; _ ; Sankyuu~
[My Dear Diary,]
00:09:531 (6,7,8,9,10,1) - I find it personally that this small pattern here would be nicer if 00:09:710 (7,8) - were a slider, because in this entire section there were a maximum of 2 notes at a time which adds to the calm feel, and it'd also separate the next 3 piano notes from the rest of the section a little. I like ... very nice idea <3

Like this!

00:12:210 (1,2,3,1) - I also have to agree with an earlier mod here, this particular slider would be nice spaced, I'd like it spaced because it's the first sound of a new musical section, and having a little bit of separation makes the next new section have a little more power and makes it feel as though it's not a part of the old one. The low spacing during the section imo is fine though, just starting with a bang would be nice! I do respect said opinions but I feel like the current inward flow is enough emphasis ;_;
00:33:281 (1,2) - Nazi here but I think 2 needs to be moved up to make it straight in front of this slider, may require moving stuff in the pattern here o/ I am the german here :^) °3°
00:43:281 (6,7,8) - Again, minor aesthetics, but these sliders have different spaces between the bodies as seen in the image below: Hope I fixed it ;_;

Image below

01:20:960 (4,5,6) - Not sure but if you want to make this a triangle, go for it! On another note, I found that stacking 6 on 01:21:852 - here and slider 7's head on 5 feels much more comfy than this pattern, see this image below for the idea o/ Ugh ... triangle it is

Try this and see how it feels to you in game

(01:41:852 (1,2,3) - tfw I can never read the rhythms on here right LEARN TO READ ARPHI) Is it too hard?
01:48:638 (7) - Try 362:210 as a placement instead, it creates a triangle with 01:47:745 (2,4) - AND one with 01:48:460 (6,7,8) - I personally find it weird here going over the same place twice (idk why, maybe due to buildup = no stacks?) so I think moving 7 to there would be cooler Nice catch it does create a nice circular flow as well
(01:49:710 (1,2,1,2) - tfw I can't hit the long slider after the first 3 highlighted notes LEARN TO AIM ARPHI)
02:10:424 (1) - Personal feeling purely, but I'd make this a 1/1 slider. Generally, 02:10:424 - to 02:11:674 - all feels like a sudden stop in the music (no drums, only vocals) so I'd map to purely the vocals and skip out 02:10:602 - (02:11:138 - and maybe this but that's excusable imo as slider end or note) hmm I prefer current patter for rhythm consitanty
02:12:031 (1,2,3,4) - I think this plays too linearly unlike the entirety of the rest of the map, and has a really awkward spacing change, I think a simple diamond would work here (picture provided) or you can make a pattern where the spacing decreases per note Welp I explained in 4 mods before why I did it as it is ;_;

Diamond (had to mov stream

Reducing spacing

(03:26:317 (1,2,3,4) - Kinda same here, I mean it's just personal I guess but I'd really like to see a pattern with decreasing spacing per note again or smth ;-;)
02:26:317 (7,8) - Only slider+note combo with any kind of high spacing, literally check this kiai, every slider -> note is really close! ye I don't know what happedn there
04:21:674 (1,2) - Now I know why these are here, but I think they're kinda annoying to hit since they start 1/2 before the usual downbeat. You can keep since they hit sounds, I just wanted to point it out that it's kinda annoying to hit imo (I actually misread and ended up 100streaming xD) ; _ ;
(rankable but tfw 05:00:424 (6) - is covered by the score counter for me) Ugh it really is rankable? I might change it if it's to critical

There, should be all, good lucku on mappu! Uguuuuu :3
(PM to go over anything I may have not said well >.<)

Mitkoff wrote:

Hello,
shot mod here \O/.

Huh, this map structure is soooo similar with the one mapper's style someone who can rank evething, honestly i can't say that i like that style, but seems very clean. Everyone hates my map ;_;
Your timing looks wrong a bit, maybe it's cause od is high. Yeah this od rekt me...

Last Love

00:20:781 (2,3,4,5) - mb better avoid overlaps here too as You did before and after? I like them though ;_;
00:21:852 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - this part sounds incorrect. Why?
00:22:477 - beat here instead 00:22:388 (2) - I don't hear that
00:23:102 (4) - there beat feels strange because You miss more stronger beat here 00:23:013 - I don't hear that either
00:40:245 (4,5) - unstack , it breaks flow now 00:39:710 (3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - This is all supposed to be flow break because of the vocals
01:06:049 - circle pls or kick slider at least I simply skipp this for the sake of rhythm simplicity on the slow parts ... no fancy stuff
01:44:710 (1,2,1,2) - Can this jupms use same spacing? (beetwen 1 and 2) 2nd one feels a bit close. ye sure no point oin having different spacing
01:50:245 (1) - Make it more visiable, now it looks more like 1/4 beat and 01:50:245 (1,2) - seems too big after moved a bit -> jump afterwards is part of emphasis
01:50:960 - rip 1/4s hmmm vocals?!
02:12:210 (2,3,4) - - too close All part of emphasis
03:26:674 (3,4) - ^ ^ (see above mods for explaination
02:41:227 - circle here really unnecessary There is no circle here?
02:40:602 (4,5) - i suggest better represent sound here, bigger spacing or idk...
03:10:335 (2) - Why circle here? You skip ALL 1/4's before that one Merely for the sake of emphasis on the vocal downbeat
03:21:674 (8,1) - seems too spaced mb only for me hmm perhaps
03:55:245 (2) - make slider to 03:55:602 - now feels too empty, also sounds similar I want the emptyness
05:07:210 (3) - Why without NC?

always 3 notes 4 times and then 4 notes = rhythm of the drums

Hmm, all i guess.
Goodluck.

Pentori wrote:

hey! ww

[General]
u should add "marathon" to tags sure
why not cancel sliderslide with a muted .wav? it suits the song imo
bg should be 1366 x 768 to avoid upscaling. since you noted you don't know how to do this i did it for you. http://puu.sh/qZfc7/936fa96820.jpg OMG SANKYUU SO MUCH ;_;
OD 9.1 seems like too much imo, if people want higher OD they can play hardrock, you dont have to force it on them. perhaps something between 8.4-8.8 would be better Ok...
unused hitsounds: Just gonna trsu you on those ones ^^
soft-hitclap16.wav
soft-hitwhistle30.wav
duplicate timing lines: ye
03:44:710
05:04:710
unsnapped timing lines: oops

SPOILER

03:16:670
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03:18:456
03:18:813
03:19:527
03:19:706
03:19:884
03:20:420
03:20:956
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03:22:206
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03:22:920
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03:24:527
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[Last Love]
00:10:245 (9,1) - why not increase ds here similar to 00:09:710 (7,8) - so that the higher pitch note has more ds seems reasonable
00:29:531 (3,4,5) - i wouldn't ignore the violin stream here I am more followin the melody anyways instead of influcences of minor instruments
00:33:817 (2,4) - claps sound better here imo, because it is backed by the instruments and aren't as loud as finishes ye~
00:53:102 (9) - with keysounding here, this vocal is the same as 00:52:924 (8) - so u should use the same note hmm are you sure? I'll leave it for now because the same note thrice sounds meh
01:02:567 (3) - the finish sound is actually on slider's end 01:02:745 - so it sounds out of place to have it on the slider head ok
01:15:781 - keysound should be S:C7. same note as 01:16:138 ye wtf was I thinkin
02:35:602 (6,7,8) - i dont like how these are jumps instead of being a stream as shown by the music. imo ignoring an important stream isn't advisable for an extra ye Idk how I didn't hear that stream tbh
02:58:817 (9) - keysound should be same note as 02:58:638 same issue as before
03:53:281 (1) - 03:56:138 (2) - hm there are so many drums you can map to in the background. mapping to the guitar here is fine, but im sure a player would enjoy it more if it were mapped to drums :v Well I have two reasons for not mapping drums here ... (or only sparely) First: I think the guitar is utmost prominent here. Second: This map has no pauses ... so I'd like to at least have some calm parts... well one caould argue that my clam parts are the verses but I don't think so ... it not as calm as having long sliders etc.

Arduck_GR wrote:

Last Love

1. 03:40:067 (5) - Fix blanket to this slider's end 03:39:531 (3) - yus
2. 00:04:174 (7) - Move it to x 243 y 221 k
3. 00:04:710 (1) - Fix blanket did
4. 00:09:710 (7) - ^ k
5. 00:46:852 (7) - ^ rotate Origin>Playfield centre by -1 degree.
6. 00:51:852 (5) - ^ same rotation.
7. 00:54:710 (6) - ^ rotate but this time by +1
8. 00:57:210 (4) - ^ (-2 degrees)
9. 01:24:352 (6) - ^ (+2 degrees)
10. 01:41:852 (1) - End that reverse slider here instead 01:42:120 - and add 3 more reverse sliders:
    
    1. here 01:42:210 (2) -
    2. here 01:42:567 (3) -
    3. and here 01:42:924 (2) - of the same length.
    Disagree as discussed before
11. 01:47:210 (8) - Again, rotate by -1 for (blanket)
12. Try making this stream have a smaller distance in between the hit circles 02:07:567 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - and increase it gradually from here 02:08:995 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - and here 02:09:710 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - but dont go overkill on it I don't really like this idea :/
13. 02:12:567 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Smaller distance snap as well.
14. 03:21:852 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Same thing I mentioned for the previous streams 03:23:281 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) -
15. 03:26:852 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Smaller distance snap as well.
16. 03:53:281 - Increase the slider velocity here. These long sliders are relatively slow in comparison to the map's overal flow, especially in that part.

Well it is a slow part after all

Fixed all blanket related issues

Great mapset! Keep up the good work Awesome hitsound additions as well D:
Good luck making it ranked <3

Lama Poluna wrote:

m4m, hi :з

My Dearest

• 
  00:10:067 (8,9,1) - Gradually increase this distance?YES http://puu.sh/r0LpP.jpg <- example. 00:09:531 (6,7,9) -make a triangle, 00:08:995 (5,1) - blanket. Don't like the other ideas
  00:46:495 (6,7) - I think it's easy to miss (7), and 00:46:852 - miss bit. oops screwed that up in last mod I guess
  01:08:281 (4) - NC? No why?
  01:26:674 (2,3,4) - Why does it not stack? Or atleast make it smoother. Custom stack to avoid stacking errors
  01:33:817 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - sooooo nice i love that part. Thanks :3
  02:12:031 (1,2,3,4) - More spacing? http://puu.sh/r0LQC.jpg . This is intended as it is discussed in past mods
  03:14:888 (5) - NC? ok
  03:26:317 (1,2,3,4) - http://puu.sh/r0LWB.jpg ? As said above
  03:30:245 (4) - x158 y327. No
  03:50:424 (1) - х153 у138. by logic I like that
  04:46:138 (1,2,3,4) - Good spacing! YUSH

niiiiiiice mapThanks <3

Whirl wrote:

hey m4m

Last Love

00:23:817 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - I personally don't like the idea of having a stack going into a stream because it doesn't flow that well, but thats just my opinion Welp I do it because It fits with the tiples before and the stream movement starts on the white tick which gives it more emphasis

00:29:531 (3) - this would work better as a curved slider rather than a pointed one 00:28:995 (1,3,5) - Traingle pattern ~

01:27:210 (5) - slider end of this should stack with the start of 01:28:281 (3) - fthis I do get your point but It would ruin the same spacing structure I have for making it that calm

01:29:531 (2,3,4) - this can point down a bit more yesh for da readability \o\

01:54:710 (5) - curve this instead of a point please Won't do that ... but I fixed the overall pattern which was messed up though nobody notcied it LOL

02:01:138 (8,9,10,11) - this could be hard to read Uhh yeah but I think it's fine ... unless some BN points it out

02:24:352 (3,4,5) - move this more to the right for a better look aesthetically + flow yesh changed pattern slightly

02:32:031 (1,2,3) - why isn't this a triangle? Cuz I cannot find a fitting triangle Oh wait you aren't fricking monstrata I don't know why I hate Monstrata so much some ppl say I am xd

03:00:424 (5) - this seems a tad too curved wdym? ;_;

03:38:638 (3,4,5) - stack this with the slider end of 03:37:745 (7) - this right
03:58:638 (2,3) - the stack kind of ruins flow It's inducing/emphasizing the 2 sounds from the guitar which sound very equal ... BN said it fits and it's fine > see Lasse's irc

04:05:424 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - make these more spaced ye actually why not



wow overall I love this map, osu needs more RANKED marathon maps! Sankyuu~

Irreversible wrote:

Hi there, m4m

Last Love

What about adding some lyrics and some particles flying around? There are several tools that could help you with that.I'll see if I can do stuffhttps://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/417857 and p/4667902/ ~ Just an idea, don't feel forced. I just felt it would fit this map.

Lol it's interesting, Monstrata's mapset needed quite a lot of timing points.. You might want to check that, because some points actually seem slightly off to play. 01:50:960 (3,4,5) - , 00:12:210 (1,2,3) - .. I'll let it be checked

01:16:852 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - I'm slightly confused about the slider shapes you went for, because while a change of the shape makes sense 01:17:924 (6) - , it doesn't make too much sense that you use the same here 01:18:995 (1) - , does it? Since it's a new part, the shape could change too. It still is part of the triangular shape but I just use NCs on downbeat thats why ; _ ;

01:41:852 (1,2,3) - This threw me off heavily. I was not able to predict how long a repeating slider is, because the repeaters before told me something else. You might want to shorten them, to make them consistent. Since so many of oyu mention it Changed~
03:53:281 (1) - Well, personal suggestion but I have some ideas for the slider art: http://puu.sh/r1YLe/320361891d.jpg Nuuu i dun liku ;_;

03:55:245 (2,1) - I wasn't able to read that, please re-think the spacing, or the rhythm even. It seems very harshly done here, so you should smoothen that out. Maybe add a slider from 03:55:245 - to 03:55:602 - Since it been mention multiple times now ok~

03:56:138 (2) - You could improve that blanket :p As I see it ... it's perfect

03:58:460 (1) - Spacing here is too high, again, I was confused while reading that. (also because the overlap irritated me 03:58:638 (2,3) - ). hmm might change idk

Really sweet map you got here, not much left and I'm sure you can call BNs. Please consult someone who's good with timing to recheck that, because I'm not very well known for my timing skills... sorry to not being able to help you here.

Pentori wrote:

recheck

[General]
u should lower hp to like 5.5 bcos your combos are 2 downbeats long meaning the player doesn't get a whole lot of hp gain. also most of the song is low density Seems reasonable
03:21:143 - unsnapped timing line SOWWY ; _ ;

[Last Love]
00:53:102 (9) - again, going to bring up this point. you said you didn't like three of the same notes in a row but that's what the vocalist is doing and keysounds should represent that imo. in its current state when i play this it's quite noticeable that it's the wrong note :/ well ok~
02:12:031 (1,2,3) - can you change flow here a bit? cursor decelerates a lot bcos of 02:12:210 (2,3) - so i feel an angle would play better like u did at 03:26:317 (1,2,3) I tryed
02:34:888 (2) - missing clap? you had one on 02:35:424 (5) - and theres a clear clap in the music yes lol
02:58:192 - can you include this triplet? as it sounds notably louder than other triplets I can
02:58:817 (9) - should be same note as 02:58:638 ~

call me back

Lasse wrote:

since I told I could probably recheck after it gets bubbled
00:12:210 (1,2,3) - 60-65-75 volume lines to fit with the music could work well here hmmm
00:13:281 (1) - missing finish it seems // 03:16:138 (1) - 04:41:852 - 05:13:281 (3) - added some more missing finishes ~

01:02:745 - using soft finish is way too loud here for what the song offers, would use drum-whistle instead as it fits quite nicely (or maybe the S:C1 whistle)
same for 01:03:281 - 01:11:317 - 01:11:852 - 01:17:567 - I actually disagree and would like to keep it volume is on 60% anyways

02:13:281 (1) - 03:27:567 (1) - 04:47:567 (1) - I see you are not using finishes for the earlier parts of the chorus, which is fine to me even the music would fit them since like that the more intense ending of the chorus stands out better (and the cymbals aren't that strong after all)
but on those places (start of every chorus, with cymbal) fiinishes would probably work really well I get your point but 1. they aren't in the song 2. If I place that first one it feels like I had continue it which I don't want ... feels so uncomplete then

01:41:852 (1,2,5) - could make the visual distance for them the same to make it a little neater http://i.imgur.com/w1S39us.jpg ok
02:24:352 (3,4,5) - what happened with spacing here, looking at how you spaced this part overall and how 03:38:638 (3,4,5) - 04:58:638 (3,4,5) - are spaced, this should be way more I think I found a good solution
02:59:709 (3) - something seems weird with the snapping of this slider, move it back and forth in the timeline and it should be fixed yes lol thanks
03:37:745 (7,3,4,5) - check this with stacking enabled http://i.imgur.com/equ3RgV.jpg just move triple more down/right I don't think it is noticable mut ok
03:55:959 - why is there a finish on the sliderend? Good question, removed~
05:01:674 (4) - compared to surrounding placements/music spacing onto this note seems unreasonably huge and looks even bigger due to being placed kinda "out of the pattern", yes it has vocals, though ~2.8-3x would be enough I think
another solution would be having it palced more "with" the pattern like http://i.imgur.com/YDj5l6V.jpg but that would need so many adjustments on following part, just reducing spacing is better fixed

05:13:281 - until at least 05:16:049 - sounds kinda early to me... I had Bonsai and shiguri check the timing, bonsai said on some parts it'd be 5ms off but it shouldn't be a problem I let Shiguri fix it

05:24:352 (7,8) - bit huge for what the music offers Should be fine as I am following this kind of increasing spacing all along this part and the very horizontal flow should make it not a problem to be played~

i'm fine with qualifying this, not sure about that 3 second part though : /