WOW first mod, 420 style
Fort you
Farewell
14:51 SnowNiNo_: wat
14:51 Fort: i
14:51 Fort: don't know
14:51 Fort: hi
14:51 SnowNiNo_: sry
14:51 SnowNiNo_: i just came back home
14:51 Fort: okay
14:52 SnowNiNo_: so wat do you wanna say btw =w=
14:52 Fort: i realy
14:52 Fort: want to say
14:52 Fort: i realize you're stalking me
14:52 Fort: :/
14:53 Fort: damn heck
14:53 Fort: why you didn't say you add me?
14:53 SnowNiNo_: cuz im shy ><
14:53 Fort: a 8* handsome mapper shy
14:53 Fort: good
14:54 SnowNiNo_: lol
14:54 Fort: okay forget that
14:54 Fort: are you open for mod?
14:54 SnowNiNo_: k
14:54 Fort: you'll mod 8* or 7* map probably
14:54 SnowNiNo_: yea i could
14:54 Fort: pick one
14:54 SnowNiNo_: but i prefer m4m more
14:55 *Fort is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1040178 Ata - Euphoria]
14:55 Fort: yeah ez
14:55 *Fort is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1035980 Hazel-D - Gritty Dash]
14:55 SnowNiNo_: wat the fk
14:55 Fort: yeha
14:55 SnowNiNo_: which one is for rank
14:55 SnowNiNo_: both?
14:56 Fort: yeah
14:56 SnowNiNo_: i would like to mod both
14:56 SnowNiNo_: but im lazy
14:56 SnowNiNo_: :>
14:57 SnowNiNo_: can i mod for ticket from you?
14:58 Fort: yeah okay
14:58 SnowNiNo_: oky ill mod both :>
14:59 Fort: where's your map if you want ticket?
14:59 Fort: my ticket expire in 1 day
15:01 SnowNiNo_: lol
15:01 SnowNiNo_: wat
15:01 Fort: just kidding
15:01 SnowNiNo_: the set isnt finish yet but it would be finish in a day
15:01 SnowNiNo_: :<
15:01 SnowNiNo_: oh
15:01 SnowNiNo_: fk
15:01 Fort: yeah it's okay
15:01 SnowNiNo_: wouldnt*
15:01 Fort: just np me
15:01 *SnowNiNo_ is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1032308 nameless - sayonara wondernoise]
15:01 SnowNiNo_: prob this map
15:03 Fort: okay
15:03 Fort: WAT
15:04 Fort: cool
15:04 *Fort is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1036884 nameless - sayonara wondernoise [Rabbit's Jumping Style]] ~Relax~
15:07 Fort: wow
15:07 Fort: anti flow patterns on fullscreen jumps
15:07 SnowNiNo_: 1/2 spam jumps
15:07 Fort: TOO HAAARD
15:07 SnowNiNo_: thats why it calls rabbit jumps
15:07 SnowNiNo_: :>
15:07 Fort: i want to FC this
15:08 Fort: kurwa
15:08 SnowNiNo_: that would be amazing xd
15:09 Fort: my mouse dropped
15:10 Fort: :<
15:10 SnowNiNo_: lol
15:10 SnowNiNo_: lmao
15:10 Fort: so kurwa
15:13 Fort: good acc
15:13 Fort: this is harder than my 500 tortures tbh
15:13 SnowNiNo_: :>
15:14 SnowNiNo_: sr is higher
15:14 Fort: even it's 240 it technically has blind patterns
15:14 SnowNiNo_: blind patterns?
15:14 Fort: combo colours too dark maybe
15:14 Fort: yeah
15:14 Fort: blind patterns means some pattern that i can't see properly
15:14 SnowNiNo_: oh
15:15 SnowNiNo_: cuz the ar maybe?
15:15 Fort: put combo colours more brighter
15:15 SnowNiNo_: oky
15:15 SnowNiNo_: but only on rabbit jumps diff, cuz i prefer dark combo color =w=
15:16 Fort: but i'd suggest use brighter colours to make this set more safer
15:16 SnowNiNo_: oh rly?
15:16 SnowNiNo_: oky ill change after all the diff are finished
15:19 Fort: 00:39:356 - why you didn't map drum in here?
15:19 Fort: i think it can be follow both vocal and drum
15:20 SnowNiNo_: lol plz dont mod it :<
15:20 SnowNiNo_: this diff is compelete messy lol
15:21 SnowNiNo_: in farewell diff i map drum there tho
15:21 SnowNiNo_: xd
15:23 Fort: oh so you don't want to rank rabbit jumps?
15:23 Fort: that's surpirising
15:23 SnowNiNo_: yea
15:23 Fort: wait
15:23 Fort: wat
15:24 Fort: 6.87
15:24 Fort: that's
15:24 Fort: significantly downed so much like a downhill
15:24 SnowNiNo_: =w=
15:25 Fort: lol
15:25 Fort: i think someday
15:25 Fort: you will rank 1 rabbit jumps map
15:25 Fort: and rekt me
15:25 Fort: :>
15:26 SnowNiNo_: prob when im famous as you c:
15:27 Fort: this is more harder hoyl
15:27 *Fort is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1032308 nameless - sayonara wondernoise [Farewell]] ~Relax~
15:27 Fort: the flow
15:28 SnowNiNo_: rly?
15:28 SnowNiNo_: the flow is good imo, i play it myself lol
15:28 Fort: i think
15:29 Fort: following drums only and ignore strong vocals is awkward for me
15:29 Fort: yeah just it
15:29 SnowNiNo_: you mean in kiai?
15:29 Fort: in my opinion some strong vocal can be mappable
15:30 Fort: ah kurwa
15:30 Fort: why im quitting this
15:30 SnowNiNo_: wat is kurwa means, like i dont understand =w=
15:33 Fort: google translate it
15:33 Fort: lol
15:33 Fort: it means something awesome
15:34 SnowNiNo_: i try to google it
15:34 SnowNiNo_: but the translate is something not good
15:34 SnowNiNo_: aha
15:36 Fort: this slider is quite weird 00:45:856 (7) -
15:37 SnowNiNo_: why is it weird
15:37 SnowNiNo_: you mean the blanket is not good lol?
15:37 Fort: eh
15:37 Fort: no
15:37 Fort: i mean this
15:37 Fort: 00:50:606 (5) -
15:38 Fort: wrong copy paste
15:38 Fort: for this pattern 00:49:106 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - i notice you follow some vocals
15:38 Fort: so i assume you're follow vocal in here 00:50:106 (1,2,3,4) - but you change the pattern to drum
15:39 SnowNiNo_: 00:50:606 (5) - is copy from 00:50:106 (1) - tho xd
15:39 SnowNiNo_: tbh i mainly following the drum in kiai, and some notes follow the flow coinsidently
15:39 Fort: no, not the copy of slider but the pattern it self
15:39 *SnowNiNo_ hide
15:39 Fort: yeah feels weird haha
15:40 SnowNiNo_: og you mean 00:50:106 (1,2,3,4,5) - and 00:50:606 (5,6,7) - ?
15:40 Fort: probably this 00:50:356 (2,3,4) - needs some jumps than a triple
15:41 Fort: oh about 00:49:106 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
15:41 SnowNiNo_: dat triple is for consistent, and i mainly want to use the triple to express the drum at that point
15:41 SnowNiNo_: yap?
15:41 Fort: at first the pattern 00:49:106 (1,2,3,4,5) - is okay, it follows both drums and vocals
15:42 Fort: after the next combo, right on 00:50:106 (1,2,3,4,5) - the pattern feels weird because vocal
15:43 Fort: well
15:43 SnowNiNo_: oh
15:43 Fort: if you didn't want to change 00:50:356 (2,3,4) - as triple
15:43 Fort: change this as a circles
15:43 Fort: like 00:45:606 (5,6) -
15:44 Fort: change this as a circles 00:50:606 (5) - *
15:45 Fort: atleast it can neutralize the vocal and drum pattern and it can follow all things there
15:45 SnowNiNo_: but i mainly following drums at kiai, if i only change this part to follow the vocal then ill be inconsistent with my structure :\
15:45 Fort: probably that thing can make consistency too
15:46 Fort: well
15:46 Fort: when you follow drums mainly why you suddenly follow vocal in here? 00:51:856 (6) -
15:46 Fort: i mean here
15:46 Fort: 00:52:106 (1) -
15:47 Fort: probably confusion is real for me >.<
15:47 SnowNiNo_: theres a low pitch drum
15:47 SnowNiNo_: at 00:52:106 -
15:47 SnowNiNo_: so i think use low sv to express is a good choice =w=
15:47 Fort: hmm i see
15:47 Fort: back to triples
15:48 SnowNiNo_: oo
15:48 Fort: why you put a triples instead put a 1/2 sliders
15:48 SnowNiNo_: ok =w=
15:48 Fort: because i think it's a snare
15:48 SnowNiNo_: yap
15:48 Fort: and mainly you put 1/2 to emphasize snare
15:48 SnowNiNo_: you mean sth like 00:54:856 (6,7) - ?
15:49 Fort: no
15:49 Fort: something like 00:45:356 (2,3,4) -
15:49 Fort: is similiar like 00:46:356 (2) -
15:49 SnowNiNo_: oh
15:50 Fort: but you put triple on 00:46:606 (3,4,5) -
15:50 SnowNiNo_: i should prob make the triple at 00:46:356 -
15:50 SnowNiNo_: yea i know
15:50 Fort: LOL
15:50 Fort: that's why the confusion is real
15:50 SnowNiNo_: oky ill fix dat
15:50 Fort: oh okay i think the problem solved
15:50 SnowNiNo_: my mistake =w=
15:52 Fort: ah the problem is on that pattern so it looks inconsintant for me
15:52 SnowNiNo_: yap is inconsistent for me either xd
15:54 Fort: 00:56:356 (3,4) - i think this flow will be more softer if you rotate this slider few degrees
15:54 SnowNiNo_: clockwise ot anti?
15:55 Fort: anti
15:55 Fort: clockwise makes it worse
15:55 Fort: LOL
15:56 SnowNiNo_: k
15:59 Fort: btw
15:59 Fort: i have bad news
16:00 Fort: you have mod in PIZZZZ
16:00 SnowNiNo_: i know it
16:00 SnowNiNo_: xd
16:00 Fort: okie good
16:00 SnowNiNo_: derandom pm me like 10 min ago
16:00 Fort: i want to tell you before
16:01 Fort: but late lol
16:01 Fort: 01:01:356 (2,3,4) - and 01:01:856 (7,8,9) - i think triples in here is overdone
16:01 Fort: for non kiai part
16:02 Fort: this stream 01:02:356 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - can be enough emphasize this part
16:02 Fort: these*
16:03 SnowNiNo_: well those triple is expressing the snare either
16:03 Fort: the jumps quite higher density than kiai one
16:03 SnowNiNo_: oh
16:03 SnowNiNo_: i can lower the ds
16:04 Fort: looks fine
16:04 SnowNiNo_: but although this part isnt kiai anymore but is still quite intense
16:04 SnowNiNo_: compare with 01:03:106 - xd
16:04 Fort: 01:01:731 (6) - move to 156|220
16:04 Fort: 01:01:856 (7,8,9) - move to 52|124
16:05 Fort: make a diamond shape
16:06 SnowNiNo_: uh im making the triangle and you just destroyed it :<
16:06 SnowNiNo_: :c
16:06 Fort: sorry rip
16:06 Fort: 01:02:981 (4,1) - i think this lack of emphasize, needs more distance
16:06 SnowNiNo_: why the ds here should be like this small
16:07 Fort: why?
16:07 Fort: in fact that's a strong finish lol
16:08 SnowNiNo_: yea i prefer the original one
16:08 Fort: 01:02:731 (2,4) - make this DS more higher
16:08 Fort: like this
16:08 Fort: http://puu.sh/qirS7/9df9e97576.jpg
16:08 Fort: so the DS can be fine
16:09 SnowNiNo_: i want to make the ds here smaller
16:09 SnowNiNo_: and smaller
16:09 SnowNiNo_: =w=
16:09 Fort: it's same thing
16:09 Fort: make this more larger then 01:02:731 (2) -
16:10 SnowNiNo_: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5718418 i can do this]
16:10 SnowNiNo_: keeping the shape
16:10 Fort: yeah exactly that's the idea
16:10 SnowNiNo_: oky
16:10 Fort: maybe move 01:02:731 (2) - to up a little bit to make 01:02:106 (1) - good slider tail overlap
16:11 Fort: 01:23:106 (1) - wat why?
16:12 Fort: the vocals has higher pitch
16:12 Fort: why slow sliders btw?
16:12 SnowNiNo_: but there isnt any instrument, only vocal
16:13 SnowNiNo_: same as 00:41:106 -
16:13 Fort: oh
16:13 Fort: ok
16:13 Fort: hoyl
16:13 Fort: 01:42:543 (8,1) -
16:13 Fort: dat sv tho
16:14 SnowNiNo_: aha
16:14 SnowNiNo_: strong comparasion xd
16:18 Fort: i think 1/1 slider can be "fine"
16:19 Fort: because it can be follow bassline on 01:42:856 -
16:19 Fort: consider increase SV i think
16:20 SnowNiNo_: but the vocal isnt end at there, it would be quite weird if i stop the slider there
16:20 Fort: wow
16:20 Fort: i realize that stream is not 1/4
16:21 Fort: it's 1/3
16:21 SnowNiNo_: wat
16:21 SnowNiNo_: srsly lol?
16:21 Fort: yeah
16:21 SnowNiNo_: oh rly
16:21 Fort: when im doing o% effect volume and hear 25% i really the notes glitched
16:22 Fort: im really sure the notes*
16:22 Fort: my english sucks
16:23 Fort: 01:46:356 (3,4) - probably
16:23 Fort: this is weird with antiflow pattern :/
16:23 Fort: 01:46:606 - in here has super strong guitar pattern but you ignore this
16:24 SnowNiNo_: hmm this flow isnt a problem for me
16:24 Fort: similiar that 01:45:106 (1,2,3) -
16:24 Fort: similiar like*
16:25 SnowNiNo_: but the drum soind is different at 01:46:106 -
16:25 SnowNiNo_: lemme think about it
16:25 Fort: to be honest you should focus at guitar patterning on these part 01:43:106 -
16:25 Fort: the drum sounds too low compare with guitar one
16:25 SnowNiNo_: yea i know
16:26 SnowNiNo_: fixing now
16:26 Fort: well if you want to keep following drum i'd suggest you to keep doing 1/2 patterning in every notes
16:26 Fort: any 1/1 sliders can be awkward because this songs is quite intense
16:27 Fort: this is more weird 01:50:481 (4) - lol
16:27 SnowNiNo_: yap
16:27 SnowNiNo_: prob gonna remove all 1/1
16:27 SnowNiNo_: ar this part
16:27 Fort: for this 01:54:481 (4) - , i think this is the good pattern because it's follow guitar
16:27 SnowNiNo_: at*
16:28 Fort: ya
16:28 Fort: im sure you need to focus to guitar parts there, rare part
16:28 SnowNiNo_: oky
16:29 SnowNiNo_: oky ill keep this one 01:54:481 (4) -
16:29 SnowNiNo_: and this 01:57:106 (1) -
16:31 SnowNiNo_: anymore things ?
16:31 SnowNiNo_: i rly want to take a bath =w=
16:32 Fort: oh
16:32 Fort: yeah that's good too for me
16:33 SnowNiNo_: k
16:33 Fort: needs more distance for 02:12:856 (4,5) -
16:33 Fort: good conmsistency for 02:13:856 (4,5) -
16:33 Fort: and 02:16:856 (4,5) -
16:33 SnowNiNo_: oky
16:34 Fort: i guess this 02:24:106 (1) - slider too slow :/
16:34 Fort: compare with jump 02:23:106 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
16:35 SnowNiNo_: cuz is 1/1 i think
16:35 Fort: 1.00 can be good
16:35 Fort: 1.00x
16:35 SnowNiNo_: oky increased to 1
16:35 SnowNiNo_: coool
16:35 Fort: yeah, to neutralize 02:25:106 (1) - SV
16:36 Fort: 02:28:106 (1) - hmmm... the 3/4 sliders can be misleading with slow SV changes i think
16:36 Fort: well i bet people will see that as 1/2 slow slider
16:37 Fort: insantead of 3/4
16:37 Fort: instead*
16:37 Fort: because you put some slow 1/2 slider on specific parts too
16:37 SnowNiNo_: actually this can play as a 1/2 slider, cuz the sv is slow
16:37 Fort: i got 100s with relax btw lol
16:38 SnowNiNo_: yea but expressing different thing
16:38 Fort: well
16:38 Fort: yeah like this
16:38 Fort: 01:51:106 (1) -
16:38 SnowNiNo_: relax isnt good for testplay tbh
16:38 SnowNiNo_: cuz you dont rly "click" it xd
16:38 Fort: these slider can be 3/4 pattern
16:39 SnowNiNo_: yea 01:51:106 (1) - is expressing the insturment, but the kiai one is vocal
16:39 Fort: kinda good probabilities
16:39 Fort: oh
16:39 Fort: maybe i can't feel kiai because skin
16:39 Fort: :/
16:39 Fort: kurwa
16:39 SnowNiNo_: default plz
16:39 SnowNiNo_: xd
16:39 Fort: default sucks
16:40 Fort: i got shitmisses because the 300s and 200s visual too big
16:40 Fort: 100s*
16:40 SnowNiNo_: i only use default skin in editer
16:40 SnowNiNo_: not im gameplay
16:40 SnowNiNo_: in*
16:40 Fort: well
16:40 Fort: in my opinion 1/2 slow slider can be good options too
16:41 Fort: in kiai
16:41 SnowNiNo_: you can enabled in opition
16:41 Fort: atleast it make sense a bit for player
16:41 SnowNiNo_: but the vocal didnt stop at 02:28:231 - =w=
16:41 Fort: since the distance is relatively high both kiai and non kiai
16:42 SnowNiNo_: true
16:42 Fort: yeah this for gameplay purpose not just only follow music
16:42 SnowNiNo_: yea i know, but there would be modder winging about this for sure
16:42 SnowNiNo_: fk
16:42 SnowNiNo_: lol
16:43 Fort: kurwa lol
16:43 Fort: 02:25:106 - i have mixed feelings with these kiai parts
16:43 Fort: seems different like 1st kiai
16:43 Fort: explain something about that kiai :3
16:43 SnowNiNo_: yea is different
16:44 SnowNiNo_: oky
16:44 SnowNiNo_: actually the first measure of the last kiai start at 02:24:106 -
16:44 Fort: well at overal that kinda follow both vocal and drums
16:44 SnowNiNo_: you can compare with 01:27:106 - and 00:45:106 -
16:44 Fort: oh so you focus follow the vocal more?
16:45 SnowNiNo_: oky lemme explain like this
16:45 SnowNiNo_: 02:25:106 - the start of the last kiai
16:46 SnowNiNo_: is the same as 01:31:106 - and 00:49:106 -
16:46 Fort: oh
16:46 SnowNiNo_: and the vocal of the last kiai is different with the previous kiai
16:46 Fort: okay
16:46 Fort: so you need the 1/2 at 02:25:606 (5,6) -
16:46 Fort: because it same like 00:49:106 (1,2,3,4,5) -
16:47 Fort: or?
16:47 Fort: confusion is real
16:48 SnowNiNo_: 01:31:606 (5,6) -
16:48 SnowNiNo_: =w=
16:48 SnowNiNo_: fk this
16:48 Fort: but i think my suggestion about 02:25:606 (5,6) - should be a slider can make sense because it can be follow vocal more better
16:48 Fort: oh
16:48 SnowNiNo_: so 02:25:606 (5,6) - into 1/2 slider and 02:25:856 (7) - to 2 notes?
16:49 Fort: yeah
16:49 SnowNiNo_: but notes at 02:25:606 (5,6) - makes more sens to me
16:49 SnowNiNo_: sense*
16:49 Fort: i think the opposite
16:49 Fort: LOL
16:49 Fort: because you follow vocal before
16:49 Fort: i think it can be better if you focus on vocal mapping
16:50 Fort: it will be more effective flow if you swap 02:25:606 (5,6,7) - these patterns
16:51 SnowNiNo_: oky
16:51 SnowNiNo_: sound good
16:51 SnowNiNo_: done
16:52 Fort: 02:30:606 (5) -this slider probably has a chance about missreading or hard to aim because the stack maybe, or could you explain something there?
16:53 SnowNiNo_: nothing to explain, just the flow i like to used
16:53 SnowNiNo_: =w=
16:53 SnowNiNo_: haha
16:53 SnowNiNo_: this flow is good to me tho
16:54 SnowNiNo_: you think the flow is bad?
16:54 SnowNiNo_: well everyone have different opinion on flows, some said good but some might said bad
16:54 SnowNiNo_: if you think is bad then ill change it xd
16:54 Fort: my problem is the anti flow on there seems too straight for me
16:55 Fort: but how to fix btw lol
16:55 SnowNiNo_: so curved the slider?
16:55 SnowNiNo_: oh
16:55 SnowNiNo_: change the flow
16:55 SnowNiNo_: xd
16:56 Fort: maybe like this? http://puu.sh/qitCL/d80ef12528.jpg
16:57 SnowNiNo_: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5718616 i change like this tho xd]
16:57 SnowNiNo_: og and ctrl + h on 02:31:106 (1) -
16:57 SnowNiNo_: oh*
16:58 Fort: the anti flow is more harder, but looks soft i guess
16:58 Fort: well if you do that
16:58 Fort: the flow on 02:30:981 (7,1,2) - will be more harder i guess
16:58 SnowNiNo_: this flow is much better then the previous one
16:58 SnowNiNo_: wat this flow is good xd
16:59 SnowNiNo_: not hard
16:59 Fort: seems weird xxD
16:59 Fort: but yeah maybe it can be a good try
16:59 SnowNiNo_: kk
16:59 Fort: why slider spam? 02:34:106 (1,2,3) -
17:00 Fort: need circles
17:00 Fort: a bit
17:00 SnowNiNo_: not spam, it follow the drum
17:00 Fort: but
17:00 Fort: how about hat sound there?
17:01 SnowNiNo_: just like many part like 00:17:856 (5,1,2,3) -
17:01 Fort: in my mind
17:01 SnowNiNo_: hat sound?
17:01 Fort: i always thinking about hat sound on red line
17:01 Fort: hat = a small cymbals, sounds not hard but it has short burst
17:01 SnowNiNo_: you mean the note that isnt suppose to be there or?
17:02 SnowNiNo_: oh
17:02 SnowNiNo_: oh ic
17:02 Fort: i think 02:34:356 (2) - this can be a good circle pattern
17:02 SnowNiNo_: just it would be rly weird if i used hat sound here
17:02 SnowNiNo_: you know =w=
17:02 SnowNiNo_: destroyed the structure
17:02 Fort: oh okay
17:03 Fort: now im getting worried aboutthat to
17:03 Fort: too*
17:03 SnowNiNo_:
17:03 Fort: 02:51:356 (2,1) - almost touching
17:04 Fort: but AR9.7 is okay for overlap like that
17:04 SnowNiNo_: =w=
17:04 Fort: okay the end
17:04 SnowNiNo_: dont complane on overlap, you know is totally fine xd
17:04 Fort: happy ending
17:04 SnowNiNo_: gr8
17:04 SnowNiNo_: now i can take a shower
17:04 Fort: well
17:04 Fort: 02:54:606 (3) -
17:05 Fort: this can be more longer to make sense on guitar
17:05 Fort: k just that
17:05 SnowNiNo_: nah this is perfect end
17:05 SnowNiNo_: :3
17:05 Fort: post?
17:05 Fort: or delay this?
17:05 SnowNiNo_: sure why not
17:05 Fort: okay
17:05 SnowNiNo_: up to you xd
17:06 Fort: i'll post cuz you said that before lol
14:51 Fort: i
14:51 Fort: don't know
14:51 Fort: hi
14:51 SnowNiNo_: sry
14:51 SnowNiNo_: i just came back home
14:51 Fort: okay
14:52 SnowNiNo_: so wat do you wanna say btw =w=
14:52 Fort: i realy
14:52 Fort: want to say
14:52 Fort: i realize you're stalking me
14:52 Fort: :/
14:53 Fort: damn heck
14:53 Fort: why you didn't say you add me?
14:53 SnowNiNo_: cuz im shy ><
14:53 Fort: a 8* handsome mapper shy
14:53 Fort: good
14:54 SnowNiNo_: lol
14:54 Fort: okay forget that
14:54 Fort: are you open for mod?
14:54 SnowNiNo_: k
14:54 Fort: you'll mod 8* or 7* map probably
14:54 SnowNiNo_: yea i could
14:54 Fort: pick one
14:54 SnowNiNo_: but i prefer m4m more
14:55 *Fort is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1040178 Ata - Euphoria]
14:55 Fort: yeah ez
14:55 *Fort is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1035980 Hazel-D - Gritty Dash]
14:55 SnowNiNo_: wat the fk
14:55 Fort: yeha
14:55 SnowNiNo_: which one is for rank
14:55 SnowNiNo_: both?
14:56 Fort: yeah
14:56 SnowNiNo_: i would like to mod both
14:56 SnowNiNo_: but im lazy
14:56 SnowNiNo_: :>
14:57 SnowNiNo_: can i mod for ticket from you?
14:58 Fort: yeah okay
14:58 SnowNiNo_: oky ill mod both :>
14:59 Fort: where's your map if you want ticket?
14:59 Fort: my ticket expire in 1 day
15:01 SnowNiNo_: lol
15:01 SnowNiNo_: wat
15:01 Fort: just kidding
15:01 SnowNiNo_: the set isnt finish yet but it would be finish in a day
15:01 SnowNiNo_: :<
15:01 SnowNiNo_: oh
15:01 SnowNiNo_: fk
15:01 Fort: yeah it's okay
15:01 SnowNiNo_: wouldnt*
15:01 Fort: just np me
15:01 *SnowNiNo_ is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1032308 nameless - sayonara wondernoise]
15:01 SnowNiNo_: prob this map
15:03 Fort: okay
15:03 Fort: WAT
15:04 Fort: cool
15:04 *Fort is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1036884 nameless - sayonara wondernoise [Rabbit's Jumping Style]] ~Relax~
15:07 Fort: wow
15:07 Fort: anti flow patterns on fullscreen jumps
15:07 SnowNiNo_: 1/2 spam jumps
15:07 Fort: TOO HAAARD
15:07 SnowNiNo_: thats why it calls rabbit jumps
15:07 SnowNiNo_: :>
15:07 Fort: i want to FC this
15:08 Fort: kurwa
15:08 SnowNiNo_: that would be amazing xd
15:09 Fort: my mouse dropped
15:10 Fort: :<
15:10 SnowNiNo_: lol
15:10 SnowNiNo_: lmao
15:10 Fort: so kurwa
15:13 Fort: good acc
15:13 Fort: this is harder than my 500 tortures tbh
15:13 SnowNiNo_: :>
15:14 SnowNiNo_: sr is higher
15:14 Fort: even it's 240 it technically has blind patterns
15:14 SnowNiNo_: blind patterns?
15:14 Fort: combo colours too dark maybe
15:14 Fort: yeah
15:14 Fort: blind patterns means some pattern that i can't see properly
15:14 SnowNiNo_: oh
15:15 SnowNiNo_: cuz the ar maybe?
15:15 Fort: put combo colours more brighter
15:15 SnowNiNo_: oky
15:15 SnowNiNo_: but only on rabbit jumps diff, cuz i prefer dark combo color =w=
15:16 Fort: but i'd suggest use brighter colours to make this set more safer
15:16 SnowNiNo_: oh rly?
15:16 SnowNiNo_: oky ill change after all the diff are finished
15:19 Fort: 00:39:356 - why you didn't map drum in here?
15:19 Fort: i think it can be follow both vocal and drum
15:20 SnowNiNo_: lol plz dont mod it :<
15:20 SnowNiNo_: this diff is compelete messy lol
15:21 SnowNiNo_: in farewell diff i map drum there tho
15:21 SnowNiNo_: xd
15:23 Fort: oh so you don't want to rank rabbit jumps?
15:23 Fort: that's surpirising
15:23 SnowNiNo_: yea
15:23 Fort: wait
15:23 Fort: wat
15:24 Fort: 6.87
15:24 Fort: that's
15:24 Fort: significantly downed so much like a downhill
15:24 SnowNiNo_: =w=
15:25 Fort: lol
15:25 Fort: i think someday
15:25 Fort: you will rank 1 rabbit jumps map
15:25 Fort: and rekt me
15:25 Fort: :>
15:26 SnowNiNo_: prob when im famous as you c:
15:27 Fort: this is more harder hoyl
15:27 *Fort is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1032308 nameless - sayonara wondernoise [Farewell]] ~Relax~
15:27 Fort: the flow
15:28 SnowNiNo_: rly?
15:28 SnowNiNo_: the flow is good imo, i play it myself lol
15:28 Fort: i think
15:29 Fort: following drums only and ignore strong vocals is awkward for me
15:29 Fort: yeah just it
15:29 SnowNiNo_: you mean in kiai?
15:29 Fort: in my opinion some strong vocal can be mappable
15:30 Fort: ah kurwa
15:30 Fort: why im quitting this
15:30 SnowNiNo_: wat is kurwa means, like i dont understand =w=
15:33 Fort: google translate it
15:33 Fort: lol
15:33 Fort: it means something awesome
15:34 SnowNiNo_: i try to google it
15:34 SnowNiNo_: but the translate is something not good
15:34 SnowNiNo_: aha
15:36 Fort: this slider is quite weird 00:45:856 (7) -
15:37 SnowNiNo_: why is it weird
15:37 SnowNiNo_: you mean the blanket is not good lol?
15:37 Fort: eh
15:37 Fort: no
15:37 Fort: i mean this
15:37 Fort: 00:50:606 (5) -
15:38 Fort: wrong copy paste
15:38 Fort: for this pattern 00:49:106 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - i notice you follow some vocals
15:38 Fort: so i assume you're follow vocal in here 00:50:106 (1,2,3,4) - but you change the pattern to drum
15:39 SnowNiNo_: 00:50:606 (5) - is copy from 00:50:106 (1) - tho xd
15:39 SnowNiNo_: tbh i mainly following the drum in kiai, and some notes follow the flow coinsidently
15:39 Fort: no, not the copy of slider but the pattern it self
15:39 *SnowNiNo_ hide
15:39 Fort: yeah feels weird haha
15:40 SnowNiNo_: og you mean 00:50:106 (1,2,3,4,5) - and 00:50:606 (5,6,7) - ?
15:40 Fort: probably this 00:50:356 (2,3,4) - needs some jumps than a triple
15:41 Fort: oh about 00:49:106 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
15:41 SnowNiNo_: dat triple is for consistent, and i mainly want to use the triple to express the drum at that point
15:41 SnowNiNo_: yap?
15:41 Fort: at first the pattern 00:49:106 (1,2,3,4,5) - is okay, it follows both drums and vocals
15:42 Fort: after the next combo, right on 00:50:106 (1,2,3,4,5) - the pattern feels weird because vocal
15:43 Fort: well
15:43 SnowNiNo_: oh
15:43 Fort: if you didn't want to change 00:50:356 (2,3,4) - as triple
15:43 Fort: change this as a circles
15:43 Fort: like 00:45:606 (5,6) -
15:44 Fort: change this as a circles 00:50:606 (5) - *
15:45 Fort: atleast it can neutralize the vocal and drum pattern and it can follow all things there
15:45 SnowNiNo_: but i mainly following drums at kiai, if i only change this part to follow the vocal then ill be inconsistent with my structure :\
15:45 Fort: probably that thing can make consistency too
15:46 Fort: well
15:46 Fort: when you follow drums mainly why you suddenly follow vocal in here? 00:51:856 (6) -
15:46 Fort: i mean here
15:46 Fort: 00:52:106 (1) -
15:47 Fort: probably confusion is real for me >.<
15:47 SnowNiNo_: theres a low pitch drum
15:47 SnowNiNo_: at 00:52:106 -
15:47 SnowNiNo_: so i think use low sv to express is a good choice =w=
15:47 Fort: hmm i see
15:47 Fort: back to triples
15:48 SnowNiNo_: oo
15:48 Fort: why you put a triples instead put a 1/2 sliders
15:48 SnowNiNo_: ok =w=
15:48 Fort: because i think it's a snare
15:48 SnowNiNo_: yap
15:48 Fort: and mainly you put 1/2 to emphasize snare
15:48 SnowNiNo_: you mean sth like 00:54:856 (6,7) - ?
15:49 Fort: no
15:49 Fort: something like 00:45:356 (2,3,4) -
15:49 Fort: is similiar like 00:46:356 (2) -
15:49 SnowNiNo_: oh
15:50 Fort: but you put triple on 00:46:606 (3,4,5) -
15:50 SnowNiNo_: i should prob make the triple at 00:46:356 -
15:50 SnowNiNo_: yea i know
15:50 Fort: LOL
15:50 Fort: that's why the confusion is real
15:50 SnowNiNo_: oky ill fix dat
15:50 Fort: oh okay i think the problem solved
15:50 SnowNiNo_: my mistake =w=
15:52 Fort: ah the problem is on that pattern so it looks inconsintant for me
15:52 SnowNiNo_: yap is inconsistent for me either xd
15:54 Fort: 00:56:356 (3,4) - i think this flow will be more softer if you rotate this slider few degrees
15:54 SnowNiNo_: clockwise ot anti?
15:55 Fort: anti
15:55 Fort: clockwise makes it worse
15:55 Fort: LOL
15:56 SnowNiNo_: k
15:59 Fort: btw
15:59 Fort: i have bad news
16:00 Fort: you have mod in PIZZZZ
16:00 SnowNiNo_: i know it
16:00 SnowNiNo_: xd
16:00 Fort: okie good
16:00 SnowNiNo_: derandom pm me like 10 min ago
16:00 Fort: i want to tell you before
16:01 Fort: but late lol
16:01 Fort: 01:01:356 (2,3,4) - and 01:01:856 (7,8,9) - i think triples in here is overdone
16:01 Fort: for non kiai part
16:02 Fort: this stream 01:02:356 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - can be enough emphasize this part
16:02 Fort: these*
16:03 SnowNiNo_: well those triple is expressing the snare either
16:03 Fort: the jumps quite higher density than kiai one
16:03 SnowNiNo_: oh
16:03 SnowNiNo_: i can lower the ds
16:04 Fort: looks fine
16:04 SnowNiNo_: but although this part isnt kiai anymore but is still quite intense
16:04 SnowNiNo_: compare with 01:03:106 - xd
16:04 Fort: 01:01:731 (6) - move to 156|220
16:04 Fort: 01:01:856 (7,8,9) - move to 52|124
16:05 Fort: make a diamond shape
16:06 SnowNiNo_: uh im making the triangle and you just destroyed it :<
16:06 SnowNiNo_: :c
16:06 Fort: sorry rip
16:06 Fort: 01:02:981 (4,1) - i think this lack of emphasize, needs more distance
16:06 SnowNiNo_: why the ds here should be like this small
16:07 Fort: why?
16:07 Fort: in fact that's a strong finish lol
16:08 SnowNiNo_: yea i prefer the original one
16:08 Fort: 01:02:731 (2,4) - make this DS more higher
16:08 Fort: like this
16:08 Fort: http://puu.sh/qirS7/9df9e97576.jpg
16:08 Fort: so the DS can be fine
16:09 SnowNiNo_: i want to make the ds here smaller
16:09 SnowNiNo_: and smaller
16:09 SnowNiNo_: =w=
16:09 Fort: it's same thing
16:09 Fort: make this more larger then 01:02:731 (2) -
16:10 SnowNiNo_: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5718418 i can do this]
16:10 SnowNiNo_: keeping the shape
16:10 Fort: yeah exactly that's the idea
16:10 SnowNiNo_: oky
16:10 Fort: maybe move 01:02:731 (2) - to up a little bit to make 01:02:106 (1) - good slider tail overlap
16:11 Fort: 01:23:106 (1) - wat why?
16:12 Fort: the vocals has higher pitch
16:12 Fort: why slow sliders btw?
16:12 SnowNiNo_: but there isnt any instrument, only vocal
16:13 SnowNiNo_: same as 00:41:106 -
16:13 Fort: oh
16:13 Fort: ok
16:13 Fort: hoyl
16:13 Fort: 01:42:543 (8,1) -
16:13 Fort: dat sv tho
16:14 SnowNiNo_: aha
16:14 SnowNiNo_: strong comparasion xd
16:18 Fort: i think 1/1 slider can be "fine"
16:19 Fort: because it can be follow bassline on 01:42:856 -
16:19 Fort: consider increase SV i think
16:20 SnowNiNo_: but the vocal isnt end at there, it would be quite weird if i stop the slider there
16:20 Fort: wow
16:20 Fort: i realize that stream is not 1/4
16:21 Fort: it's 1/3
16:21 SnowNiNo_: wat
16:21 SnowNiNo_: srsly lol?
16:21 Fort: yeah
16:21 SnowNiNo_: oh rly
16:21 Fort: when im doing o% effect volume and hear 25% i really the notes glitched
16:22 Fort: im really sure the notes*
16:22 Fort: my english sucks
16:23 Fort: 01:46:356 (3,4) - probably
16:23 Fort: this is weird with antiflow pattern :/
16:23 Fort: 01:46:606 - in here has super strong guitar pattern but you ignore this
16:24 SnowNiNo_: hmm this flow isnt a problem for me
16:24 Fort: similiar that 01:45:106 (1,2,3) -
16:24 Fort: similiar like*
16:25 SnowNiNo_: but the drum soind is different at 01:46:106 -
16:25 SnowNiNo_: lemme think about it
16:25 Fort: to be honest you should focus at guitar patterning on these part 01:43:106 -
16:25 Fort: the drum sounds too low compare with guitar one
16:25 SnowNiNo_: yea i know
16:26 SnowNiNo_: fixing now
16:26 Fort: well if you want to keep following drum i'd suggest you to keep doing 1/2 patterning in every notes
16:26 Fort: any 1/1 sliders can be awkward because this songs is quite intense
16:27 Fort: this is more weird 01:50:481 (4) - lol
16:27 SnowNiNo_: yap
16:27 SnowNiNo_: prob gonna remove all 1/1
16:27 SnowNiNo_: ar this part
16:27 Fort: for this 01:54:481 (4) - , i think this is the good pattern because it's follow guitar
16:27 SnowNiNo_: at*
16:28 Fort: ya
16:28 Fort: im sure you need to focus to guitar parts there, rare part
16:28 SnowNiNo_: oky
16:29 SnowNiNo_: oky ill keep this one 01:54:481 (4) -
16:29 SnowNiNo_: and this 01:57:106 (1) -
16:31 SnowNiNo_: anymore things ?
16:31 SnowNiNo_: i rly want to take a bath =w=
16:32 Fort: oh
16:32 Fort: yeah that's good too for me
16:33 SnowNiNo_: k
16:33 Fort: needs more distance for 02:12:856 (4,5) -
16:33 Fort: good conmsistency for 02:13:856 (4,5) -
16:33 Fort: and 02:16:856 (4,5) -
16:33 SnowNiNo_: oky
16:34 Fort: i guess this 02:24:106 (1) - slider too slow :/
16:34 Fort: compare with jump 02:23:106 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
16:35 SnowNiNo_: cuz is 1/1 i think
16:35 Fort: 1.00 can be good
16:35 Fort: 1.00x
16:35 SnowNiNo_: oky increased to 1
16:35 SnowNiNo_: coool
16:35 Fort: yeah, to neutralize 02:25:106 (1) - SV
16:36 Fort: 02:28:106 (1) - hmmm... the 3/4 sliders can be misleading with slow SV changes i think
16:36 Fort: well i bet people will see that as 1/2 slow slider
16:37 Fort: insantead of 3/4
16:37 Fort: instead*
16:37 Fort: because you put some slow 1/2 slider on specific parts too
16:37 SnowNiNo_: actually this can play as a 1/2 slider, cuz the sv is slow
16:37 Fort: i got 100s with relax btw lol
16:38 SnowNiNo_: yea but expressing different thing
16:38 Fort: well
16:38 Fort: yeah like this
16:38 Fort: 01:51:106 (1) -
16:38 SnowNiNo_: relax isnt good for testplay tbh
16:38 SnowNiNo_: cuz you dont rly "click" it xd
16:38 Fort: these slider can be 3/4 pattern
16:39 SnowNiNo_: yea 01:51:106 (1) - is expressing the insturment, but the kiai one is vocal
16:39 Fort: kinda good probabilities
16:39 Fort: oh
16:39 Fort: maybe i can't feel kiai because skin
16:39 Fort: :/
16:39 Fort: kurwa
16:39 SnowNiNo_: default plz
16:39 SnowNiNo_: xd
16:39 Fort: default sucks
16:40 Fort: i got shitmisses because the 300s and 200s visual too big
16:40 Fort: 100s*
16:40 SnowNiNo_: i only use default skin in editer
16:40 SnowNiNo_: not im gameplay
16:40 SnowNiNo_: in*
16:40 Fort: well
16:40 Fort: in my opinion 1/2 slow slider can be good options too
16:41 Fort: in kiai
16:41 SnowNiNo_: you can enabled in opition
16:41 Fort: atleast it make sense a bit for player
16:41 SnowNiNo_: but the vocal didnt stop at 02:28:231 - =w=
16:41 Fort: since the distance is relatively high both kiai and non kiai
16:42 SnowNiNo_: true
16:42 Fort: yeah this for gameplay purpose not just only follow music
16:42 SnowNiNo_: yea i know, but there would be modder winging about this for sure
16:42 SnowNiNo_: fk
16:42 SnowNiNo_: lol
16:43 Fort: kurwa lol
16:43 Fort: 02:25:106 - i have mixed feelings with these kiai parts
16:43 Fort: seems different like 1st kiai
16:43 Fort: explain something about that kiai :3
16:43 SnowNiNo_: yea is different
16:44 SnowNiNo_: oky
16:44 SnowNiNo_: actually the first measure of the last kiai start at 02:24:106 -
16:44 Fort: well at overal that kinda follow both vocal and drums
16:44 SnowNiNo_: you can compare with 01:27:106 - and 00:45:106 -
16:44 Fort: oh so you focus follow the vocal more?
16:45 SnowNiNo_: oky lemme explain like this
16:45 SnowNiNo_: 02:25:106 - the start of the last kiai
16:46 SnowNiNo_: is the same as 01:31:106 - and 00:49:106 -
16:46 Fort: oh
16:46 SnowNiNo_: and the vocal of the last kiai is different with the previous kiai
16:46 Fort: okay
16:46 Fort: so you need the 1/2 at 02:25:606 (5,6) -
16:46 Fort: because it same like 00:49:106 (1,2,3,4,5) -
16:47 Fort: or?
16:47 Fort: confusion is real
16:48 SnowNiNo_: 01:31:606 (5,6) -
16:48 SnowNiNo_: =w=
16:48 SnowNiNo_: fk this
16:48 Fort: but i think my suggestion about 02:25:606 (5,6) - should be a slider can make sense because it can be follow vocal more better
16:48 Fort: oh
16:48 SnowNiNo_: so 02:25:606 (5,6) - into 1/2 slider and 02:25:856 (7) - to 2 notes?
16:49 Fort: yeah
16:49 SnowNiNo_: but notes at 02:25:606 (5,6) - makes more sens to me
16:49 SnowNiNo_: sense*
16:49 Fort: i think the opposite
16:49 Fort: LOL
16:49 Fort: because you follow vocal before
16:49 Fort: i think it can be better if you focus on vocal mapping
16:50 Fort: it will be more effective flow if you swap 02:25:606 (5,6,7) - these patterns
16:51 SnowNiNo_: oky
16:51 SnowNiNo_: sound good
16:51 SnowNiNo_: done
16:52 Fort: 02:30:606 (5) -this slider probably has a chance about missreading or hard to aim because the stack maybe, or could you explain something there?
16:53 SnowNiNo_: nothing to explain, just the flow i like to used
16:53 SnowNiNo_: =w=
16:53 SnowNiNo_: haha
16:53 SnowNiNo_: this flow is good to me tho
16:54 SnowNiNo_: you think the flow is bad?
16:54 SnowNiNo_: well everyone have different opinion on flows, some said good but some might said bad
16:54 SnowNiNo_: if you think is bad then ill change it xd
16:54 Fort: my problem is the anti flow on there seems too straight for me
16:55 Fort: but how to fix btw lol
16:55 SnowNiNo_: so curved the slider?
16:55 SnowNiNo_: oh
16:55 SnowNiNo_: change the flow
16:55 SnowNiNo_: xd
16:56 Fort: maybe like this? http://puu.sh/qitCL/d80ef12528.jpg
16:57 SnowNiNo_: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5718616 i change like this tho xd]
16:57 SnowNiNo_: og and ctrl + h on 02:31:106 (1) -
16:57 SnowNiNo_: oh*
16:58 Fort: the anti flow is more harder, but looks soft i guess
16:58 Fort: well if you do that
16:58 Fort: the flow on 02:30:981 (7,1,2) - will be more harder i guess
16:58 SnowNiNo_: this flow is much better then the previous one
16:58 SnowNiNo_: wat this flow is good xd
16:59 SnowNiNo_: not hard
16:59 Fort: seems weird xxD
16:59 Fort: but yeah maybe it can be a good try
16:59 SnowNiNo_: kk
16:59 Fort: why slider spam? 02:34:106 (1,2,3) -
17:00 Fort: need circles
17:00 Fort: a bit
17:00 SnowNiNo_: not spam, it follow the drum
17:00 Fort: but
17:00 Fort: how about hat sound there?
17:01 SnowNiNo_: just like many part like 00:17:856 (5,1,2,3) -
17:01 Fort: in my mind
17:01 SnowNiNo_: hat sound?
17:01 Fort: i always thinking about hat sound on red line
17:01 Fort: hat = a small cymbals, sounds not hard but it has short burst
17:01 SnowNiNo_: you mean the note that isnt suppose to be there or?
17:02 SnowNiNo_: oh
17:02 SnowNiNo_: oh ic
17:02 Fort: i think 02:34:356 (2) - this can be a good circle pattern
17:02 SnowNiNo_: just it would be rly weird if i used hat sound here
17:02 SnowNiNo_: you know =w=
17:02 SnowNiNo_: destroyed the structure
17:02 Fort: oh okay
17:03 Fort: now im getting worried aboutthat to
17:03 Fort: too*
17:03 SnowNiNo_:
17:03 Fort: 02:51:356 (2,1) - almost touching
17:04 Fort: but AR9.7 is okay for overlap like that
17:04 SnowNiNo_: =w=
17:04 Fort: okay the end
17:04 SnowNiNo_: dont complane on overlap, you know is totally fine xd
17:04 Fort: happy ending
17:04 SnowNiNo_: gr8
17:04 SnowNiNo_: now i can take a shower
17:04 Fort: well
17:04 Fort: 02:54:606 (3) -
17:05 Fort: this can be more longer to make sense on guitar
17:05 Fort: k just that
17:05 SnowNiNo_: nah this is perfect end
17:05 SnowNiNo_: :3
17:05 Fort: post?
17:05 Fort: or delay this?
17:05 SnowNiNo_: sure why not
17:05 Fort: okay
17:05 SnowNiNo_: up to you xd
17:06 Fort: i'll post cuz you said that before lol
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