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Topic Starter
GugUCorn

MugiwaraSekai wrote:

#modreqs

easy
  1. 00:04:976 (1,2) - First, it's not as it was a big issue, but I think it's better to avoid this kind of (1) slider on easy diffs, you can try to make a rhythm as https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6764102, second I really recommand this rhythm because it's kinda inconsistent cause you mapped the loud drum at 00:05:135 - and not at 00:05:774 - just i want to emphasize on not 00:05:774 but 00:05:933. anyway, your opinion is not bad. but i want to stay. i'll consider it later.
  2. 00:08:167 (2,1) - blanket here is really ugly lol oh fixed
  3. 00:10:401 (3) - NC here is necessary according to your NC pattern 00:06:252 (1,1) - That could be so, but it is successive things..maybe
  4. 00:26:997 (2) - I think finish on its tail is not necessary it makes kinda loud when playing on the contrary 00:26:359 (1) -'s tail needs a finish nope. i want to add symbalz sound here. because it's my drum cover. 8-)
  5. 00:40:401 (3,1) - flow is not really good, you started by making a kind of circular movement at 00:39:763 (1,2,3) - so I think it's better to keep this flow a bit as http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6764205 cause it's forced the player to make a movement that he doesn't expect fixed
  6. 00:49:018 (4,2) - what about avoiding this kind of overlap? when (2) slider start, (4) slider's body is already gone. so it'll be not problem..maybe
  7. 00:53:487 (1) - you should try to make as 00:58:593 (1) - I think it'll fit better and you didn't map drums at it and I think it's a better choice fixed
  8. 01:04:976 (2) - it doesn't look good as much imo fixed
  9. 01:23:646 - I think it's better to skip that the sound is not as loud as that fixed


normal
  1. 00:04:976 (1) - clap here is needed, it feels really weird without hitsound oh i forgot to add it
  2. 00:10:401 (3,4) - what about trying to replace it by a slider to emphasize better the loud finish sound at 00:11:040 (5) - ? not bad. fixed
  3. 00:14:072 - mapping this is not necessary since drums is not as loud i see. fixed
  4. 00:14:710 - what about trying to map this also ? same sound than 00:15:029 - fixed
  5. 00:26:678 (2,3) - same as easy about finishes same reason to easy diff.
  6. 01:01:784 - what about trying to make this clickable ? cause you mapped as 01:00:827 (1) - while they don't really sound the same (hope you understand) i'll consider it.
  7. 01:20:295 (3,4) - inconsistency with 01:15:189 (3,4,5) - I think it'll be better if you add a circle between no


extra
  1. 00:21:572 (1,2) - slider should be better than circles, since sound at 00:21:731 (2) - don't deserve being "clickable". a slider end would fit better no
  2. 00:25:242 (2,3) - inconsistency with 00:22:689 (1,2,3) - try to remove (2) since it's a bit overmapped to me no
  3. 00:33:540 (2,3) - spacing should be a bigger a bit as 00:31:784 (1,4) - nope
  4. 00:32:263 (2,3,4) - overmapped and inconsistent with 00:37:210 (2,3) - removed a note on blue tic
  5. 00:59:072 (2,3) - same as above but with 01:04:178 (2,3,4) - no
  6. 01:17:423 - NC because SV change yup but no.


that's all for me good luck!
Thanks!! :D
Topic Starter
GugUCorn

Deppyforce wrote:

[extra]
00:30:907 (2) - ey theres no sound here, the rhythm here should be mapped like this if u listen closely http://puu.sh/sKoHe/32253fca4d.jpg i see. fixed
00:41:359 (1,2) - seriously i think this is too fast for what the song provides maybe it's not have problem. because as you know, there is same pattern on monstrata's beatmap, Can Do.
01:14:231 (2,4,5,6) - g. http://puu.sh/sKoL7/bf7b8dba2b.jpg u should try blanket the first circle instead in this case that maybe you check stacking option. In my editor..

h sorry for short mod no kds if changed nothing
good luck
thanks :3
Deppyforce

TaMul wrote:

Deppyforce wrote:

[extra]
01:14:231 (2,4,5,6) - g. http://puu.sh/sKoL7/bf7b8dba2b.jpg u should try blanket the first circle instead in this case that maybe you check stacking option. In my editor..
yeah it looks fine in your editor but it'll look like my pic when you actually play the map :/
change stack leniency maybe?
Topic Starter
GugUCorn

Deppyforce wrote:

yeah it looks fine in your editor but it'll look like my pic when you actually play the map :/
change stack leniency maybe?
yup, already changed it to 4. :)
HabiHolic
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Left

MugiwaraSekai wrote:

#modreqs

left
  1. 00:12:316 (5,1) - what about increasing a little bit more spacing to show the emphisize ? vocal isn't changing, so this spacing
  2. 00:13:593 (1) - this slider end needs to be muted according to 00:15:827 (1) - using soft sampleset instead
  3. 00:17:104 (3) - circles would fit better than slider since there are loud drums on it and I think circles would emphasize better themrip i'm using symmetry pattern here
  4. 01:13:274 (1,2,3,4,5) - a "straight" stream would be better visually I think well now is ok
  5. 01:18:221 - there is nothing above as 01:17:582 -, 01:16:944 -; I think it's better to make them consistent, or maybe try to map 01:17:582 - and 01:16:944 - song is obviously different there, and i had some intentions.


that's all for me good luck!
thx for mod!

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Topic Starter
GugUCorn

Irohas wrote:

#modreqs

coolest
  1. 00:21:252 (3) - I think it's better to map those drums after since it's the higher diff imo it maybe cause of sound, "hey!"
  2. 00:26:997 (2,1) - spacing too huge compared to 00:26:359 (7,1,1,2,1,2) - i'll consider it.
  3. 00:52:050 (4,1) - not really a good flow imo, it forced the player to make an awkward movement pass

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that's all for me good luck!

Deppyforce wrote:

[coolest]
00:18:380 (5,6,7) - 5 ->6 should be smaller spaced than 6->7 tbh cuz its stronger not bad consider it
00:33:699 (4,5,6) - try ctrl+g rhythm to follow vocals good! fixed
00:49:417 - missed 1/4 snare here, if u intended to make this part a jump i highly recommend u change 00:49:338 (3) - to kickslider instead of just circle fixed
01:03:460 - theres literally no sound here zzz agree but no change
fixed by me cause of long absent [ kuro usagi]
thanks mod!
Xayah
OH YEAH YEAH
Song and map is HYPE, gl, take my stars
Topic Starter
GugUCorn

- Rain - wrote:

OH YEAH YEAH
Song and map is HYPE, gl, take my stars
lol 5 stars..Thanks a lot! :D:)
Monstrata
Sorry, super late lol.

COOLEST

00:23:167 (2,3,4) - Don't do spaced triplets here, the 1/4 is barely even audible. It really sounds overmapped imo tbh xP
00:34:338 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Really unsure what rhythm you are following here. I think vocal is best tbh, since 00:33:221 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - follow the vocal rhythm really well.
00:52:449 (2,3) - Better to just stack. The custom stack isn't necessary and the angle isn't actually good imo.

Extra

00:15:348 (2,3) - Ctrl+G sounds better in terms of rhythm. Make the snare on 00:15:508 - clickable.
00:59:550 (3,4) - This deserves a larger jump imo. No emphasis onto 4 ;c
01:16:784 (3,1,2,1) - You should NC them based on SV change and use a custom NC rhythm here.
01:17:104 (1,1) - I wouldn't recommend using a full overlap here tho. Since 01:16:784 (1,1) - are rotated, you can do the same for these two sliders instead of stacking.
01:26:199 (5) - NC here and remove on 01:26:358 (1) - imo. Changing NC's in between a stream like this looks really ugly D:

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Other diffs look good! Do you have metadata btw?
Topic Starter
GugUCorn

Monstrata wrote:

Sorry, super late lol.

COOLEST

00:23:167 (2,3,4) - Don't do spaced triplets here, the 1/4 is barely even audible. It really sounds overmapped imo tbh xP i see. removed (3) note.
00:34:338 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Really unsure what rhythm you are following here. I think vocal is best tbh, since 00:33:221 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - follow the vocal rhythm really well. fixed with followed vocal
00:52:449 (2,3) - Better to just stack. The custom stack isn't necessary and the angle isn't actually good imo. agreed, fixed

Extra

00:15:348 (2,3) - Ctrl+G sounds better in terms of rhythm. Make the snare on 00:15:508 - clickable. fixed ctrlG and snare
00:59:550 (3,4) - This deserves a larger jump imo. No emphasis onto 4 ;c i think it is not big jump. its distance is 1.02x
01:16:784 (3,1,2,1) - You should NC them based on SV change and use a custom NC rhythm here. fixed
01:17:104 (1,1) - I wouldn't recommend using a full overlap here tho. Since 01:16:784 (1,1) - are rotated, you can do the same for these two sliders instead of stacking. fixed to this. https://puu.sh/tvaUr/256198c67a.png
01:26:199 (5) - NC here and remove on 01:26:358 (1) - imo. Changing NC's in between a stream like this looks really ugly D: fixed


Other diffs look good! Do you have metadata btw?
Thanks for mod! :D
about kuro usagi's diff, Caused of absent fixed by me.

and I don't know your meaning about metadata. is it wrong about its metadata?
+edit. I found some metadata of this song from Venix. p/5566974
here is medata link. http://www.shi-no-kakaku.com/2016/04/cu ... su-ga.html
i don't know sure.. :?
Monstrata
Nono, just wondering if you have an official source for your metadata, like link to discography or something.

If you don't I can find official source too.
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이거 왜 매냐태고 랭맵 다 있는데 메타를 아무도 제시안했는지ㅋㅋㅋ
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GugUCorn

Left wrote:

이거 왜 매냐태고 랭맵 다 있는데 메타를 아무도 제시안했는지ㅋㅋㅋ
어 그러고보니까 그러네요ㅋㅋㅋ
Monstrata
Metadata seems fine. Checked myself. Alright then, bubbled!
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GugUCorn

Monstrata wrote:

Metadata seems fine. Checked myself. Alright then, bubbled!
lol thanks, monstar!
F D Flourite
bubble check. Something needs a deeper consideration imo.

Red -- Directly relate to bubble pop
Bold -- Highly relate to bubble pop or should be carefully concerned
normal -- Suggestions or personal opinions

[General]
  1. normal-slidertick25.wav is unused. Delete it.
  2. normal-hitfinish.wav has a delay of more than 5ms. Here is the fixed version: Download
  3. The video is in Korean, while I'm sure that the original video is in Japanese. So I would prefer a video with Japanese lyrics or with no lyric.


[Extra]
  • Slidertick hitsounds are not used properly in this diff and COOLEST K. USAGI, especially (and mostly) on 3/4 sliders

    Guideline wrote:

    Slider tick hitsounds are discouraged. If you want to use them, then make sure that their volume is balanced (i.e. notably quieter than regular hitsounds). A very loud slider tick, especially when only used once or twice, would be extremely jarring.
    Take 01:05:933 (5,1,2) - in Extra as an example. Their lengths are the same, so players would expect them sharing the same rhythm at the first time. But they are not, which is even acceptable because due to the slidertick on 01:06:252 (1) - , this pattern could be somewhat readable. However, players will hear a loud clap hitsound on the slidertick of 01:06:252 (1) - , which is extremely confusing. It could mislead players that they've hit a 1/2 slider, which lead to a bad gameplay experience.

    Even if such patterns may be considered readable and playable, switching track in such pattern is still confusing. Obviously you are trying to follow the drum at the red tick (01:06:412 - ), but still the slidertail of 3/4 slider is snapped to the fade-out of vocal. Such variation of music track in such a short period of time could be extremely distracting tbh.

    What's worse, your map is lack of consistency on such patterns. I know 01:06:252 (1) - slidertick on this slider is trying to follow the second whistle on this music section. But among all other similar music sections, patterns are not similar in rhythm. ( 00:56:040 (7,1,2) - ) In this case, slidertick hitsounds on 3/4 sliders seems really disorganized.


And, I don't like 3/4 sliders sharing the same length as 1/2 sliders, please reconsider such patterns in Extra. You may slightly extend the length of 3/4 sliders to make such patterns more clearly. (COOLEST doesn't have this problem I guess)

After finishing all, you may call me back.
Topic Starter
GugUCorn

F D Flourite wrote:

bubble check. Something needs a deeper consideration imo.

Red -- Directly relate to bubble pop
Bold -- Highly relate to bubble pop or should be carefully concerned
normal -- Suggestions or personal opinions

[General]
  1. normal-slidertick25.wav is unused. Delete it. fixed
  2. normal-hitfinish.wav has a delay of more than 5ms. Here is the fixed version: Download thanks, fixed
  3. The video is in Korean, while I'm sure that the original video is in Japanese. So I would prefer a video with Japanese lyrics or with no lyric. I knew that. it's just little consideration for my country.


[Extra]
  • Slidertick hitsounds are not used properly in this diff and COOLEST K. USAGI, especially (and mostly) on 3/4 sliders I try to realize drum cover by using hitsound. but i couldn't use drum hitsound on middle of slider for realizing drum cover. I used many slidertick hitsounds on Easy and Normal Diff. but In Hard, Insane and Extra Diff, It doesn't have necessity that Adding lots of slidertick hitsound on slider. because In Easy and Normal Diff, there are lots of slider, but In other diff(Hard,Insane,Extra..), they have lots of circle note than slider. so I used slidertick hitsounds on necessary part. besides, I naturally used it harmoniously.

    Guideline wrote:

    Slider tick hitsounds are discouraged. If you want to use them, then make sure that their volume is balanced (i.e. notably quieter than regular hitsounds). A very loud slider tick, especially when only used once or twice, would be extremely jarring.
    Take 01:05:933 (5,1,2) - in Extra as an example. Their lengths are the same, so players would expect them sharing the same rhythm at the first time. But they are not, which is even acceptable because due to the slidertick on 01:06:252 (1) - , this pattern could be somewhat readable. However, players will hear a loud clap hitsound on the slidertick of 01:06:252 (1) - , which is extremely confusing. It could mislead players that they've hit a 1/2 slider, which lead to a bad gameplay experience.

    Even if such patterns may be considered readable and playable, switching track in such pattern is still confusing. Obviously you are trying to follow the drum at the red tick (01:06:412 - ), but still the slidertail of 3/4 slider is snapped to the fade-out of vocal. Such variation of music track in such a short period of time could be extremely distracting tbh.

    What's worse, your map is lack of consistency on such patterns. I know 01:06:252 (1) - slidertick on this slider is trying to follow the second whistle on this music section. But among all other similar music sections, patterns are not similar in rhythm. ( 00:56:040 (7,1,2) - ) In this case, slidertick hitsounds on 3/4 sliders seems really disorganized.


And, I don't like 3/4 sliders sharing the same length as 1/2 sliders, please reconsider such patterns in Extra. You may slightly extend the length of 3/4 sliders to make such patterns more clearly. (COOLEST doesn't have this problem I guess)

ah, I understand your opinion. cause of using slidertick hitsound on 3/4 slider, some player may have problem to reading. so i changed pattern about 3/4 sliders like this but i didn't change 3/4 slider to 1/2 slider.

After finishing all, you may call me back.
Thanks! ;)
F D Flourite
Rechecked. fixed some 3/4 rhythm in Extra and a slider in Normal. And remove useless characters in tag

To following modders:
there are still 3/4 sliders with slidertick hitsounds in COOLEST K. USAGI diff, but these sliders are mostly readable and playable. Even in rhythm, they could be understood as following both tracks and keeping hitsound consistency imo. So I decide to let it pass.

Rebubble~
-NanoRIPE-
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