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Prophecy

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Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Prophecy 2016-08-13T06:34:46+00:00

Updated! More mod pls

bananannian

393 posts

Joined June 2014

bananannian 2016-08-13T11:00:12+00:00

Prophecy wrote:
Updated! More mod pls

ok

Inner Oni

00:05:538 (21) - could be a D, right now it's not very distinguished from the previous pattern and doesn't quite match the emphasis in the music
00:13:566 (72) - try k, so kkdkdkkd, see if you like it
00:20:115 (123) - I'd suggest deleting this note because previously for similar places in the song where the guitar layers over the drum, you chose to not map in the downbeat (e.g. 00:16:735, 00:18:425, etc.)
00:22:122 - unused green line
00:22:967 (142,143) - literally everywhere else you used kd... if you want some variation change some of those kd into dk like here, otherwise have this be kd too for consistency
00:28:355 (174) - k for consistency with stuff like 00:24:974 (154) and 00:26:664 (164)
00:45:467 (287) - could try D, idk how much you like finishers at the end of 1/4 patterns though
00:45:890 (289) - ^
00:56:981 - could use a d, stream might become too long for your taste though, your choice (personally I think linking up the vocals here would be pretty nice seeing as you already linked it up at 00:56:559)
01:01:524 - what's up with all these unused green lines D: it's not unrankable, but it'll look tidier if you fixed them

So from 01:01:524 to 01:13:355 the drum goes into halftime, which means that instead of snares every 2nd and 4th beat the song has the snares every 3rd beat of each bar, but your mapping doesn't really reflect that very well... the following suggestions are things that you could do if you want to follow the drums more closely
01:02:157 (399,400) - switch
01:03:847 (411,412) - ^
01:05:326 (421) - move 1/4 backwards
01:06:594 - how about this?

01:08:917 (446,447,448,449,450) - ddkdk

rest is fine~

aabc's Oni

wow guitar and vocal pitch mapping :O

00:05:538 (2) - could be a D, right now it's not very distinguished from the previous pattern and doesn't quite match the emphasis in the music
00:10:291 (1) - yeah k sounds better for me, doesn't really matter though
00:17:052 (1) - ^
00:23:918 (3) - k for snares like 00:25:608 (1) and 00:22:228 (1)? it still follows the pitch
00:27:298 (6) - ^
00:28:988 (2) - ^
00:30:679 (2) - ^
01:01:312 (2,1) - k D instead of d K? vocal's pitch is going down, and onbeat D is heavier than onbeat K
01:08:073 (1,1) - ^
01:09:129 (2) - no finish?
01:10:819 (4) - ^

That's about it~

Muzukashii

00:26:453 (89,90) - perhaps you could do kd instead of kk to get rid of the 5 k's in a row
00:57:721 (63,64) - switch to follow vocal's pitch and drums cos the snare's at 00:57:932, not 00:57:721
01:05:749 (90) - k for snares rip snares D:
01:07:228 (95,96) - dk for snares rip snares D:
01:23:495 - how about this?

Futsuu

00:04:059 (5) - finish seems unnecessary imo
00:21:383 - this is the only note from 00:20:960 to 00:31:101 where it doesn't follow the 3/2 pattern... move 1/2 forward? If you really want to keep this special rhythm to make it more interesting to play, then I suggest you have 00:28:355 (64) shifted 1/2 backwards as well, for consistency.
01:03:637 (152,153) - switch because rip snares D:
01:05:749 (157) - k because rip snares D:
01:07:228 (161,162) - switch because rip snares D:

Kwan's Kantan

00:19:270 - I think instead of kdd D you could do k ddD since the vocals start at 00:20:115
01:00:679 (78) - you could move this to 01:01:101 for a more interesting rhythm

Honestly the patterns are so simple anything can fly, I'm still not sure how to mod Kantans lol

Enjoy your free mod! :3

HK circlejerk

Prophecy

1,794 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Prophecy 2016-08-13T11:47:23+00:00

bananannian wrote:
Prophecy wrote:
Updated! More mod pls
ok

Inner Oni
00:05:538 (21) - could be a D, right now it's not very distinguished from the previous pattern and doesn't quite match the emphasis in the music ✓
00:13:566 (72) - try k, so kkdkdkkd, see if you like it ✓
00:20:115 (123) - I'd suggest deleting this note because previously for similar places in the song where the guitar layers over the drum, you chose to not map in the downbeat (e.g. 00:16:735, 00:18:425, etc.) ✓
00:22:122 - unused green line Check it in the .osu file, aabc make these nice timing lines, it slightly changes the SV and the editor didn't show only. :3
00:22:967 (142,143) - literally everywhere else you used kd... if you want some variation change some of those kd into dk like here, otherwise have this be kd too for consistency ✓
00:28:355 (174) - k for consistency with stuff like 00:24:974 (154) and 00:26:664 (164) ✓
00:45:467 (287) - could try D, idk how much you like finishers at the end of 1/4 patterns though ✓
00:45:890 (289) - ^ ✓
00:56:981 - could use a d, stream might become too long for your taste though, your choice (personally I think linking up the vocals here would be pretty nice seeing as you already linked it up at 00:56:559) ✓
01:01:524 - what's up with all these unused green lines D: it's not unrankable, but it'll look tidier if you fixed them Check it in the .osu file, aabc make these nice timing lines, it slightly changes the SV and the editor didn't show only. :3

So from 01:01:524 to 01:13:355 the drum goes into halftime, which means that instead of snares every 2nd and 4th beat the song has the snares every 3rd beat of each bar, but your mapping doesn't really reflect that very well... the following suggestions are things that you could do if you want to follow the drums more closely ✓
01:02:157 (399,400) - switch ✓
01:03:847 (411,412) - ^ ✓
01:05:326 (421) - move 1/4 backwards ✓
01:06:594 - how about this? ✓
✓
01:08:917 (446,447,448,449,450) - ddkdk

rest is fine~
Futsuu
00:04:059 (5) - finish seems unnecessary imo ✓
00:21:383 - this is the only note from 00:20:960 to 00:31:101 where it doesn't follow the 3/2 pattern... move 1/2 forward? If you really want to keep this special rhythm to make it more interesting to play, then I suggest you have 00:28:355 (64) shifted 1/2 backwards as well, for consistency. ✓
01:03:637 (152,153) - switch because rip snares D: ✓
01:05:749 (157) - k because rip snares D: ✓
01:07:228 (161,162) - switch because rip snares D: ✓

Enjoy your free mod! :3 Thank you very much, <3

HK circlejerk HK circlejerk time~

✓ = Fixed

Thanks~ Updated!

[R]

1,058 posts

Joined November 2013

[R] 2016-08-13T12:41:07+00:00

bananannian wrote:
Muzukashii
00:26:453 (89,90) - perhaps you could do kd instead of kk to get rid of the 5 k's in a row the guitar pitch is falling high
00:57:721 (63,64) - switch to follow vocal's pitch and drums cos the snare's at 00:57:932, not 00:57:721
01:05:749 (90) - k for snares rip snares D:
01:07:228 (95,96) - dk for snares rip snares D:
01:23:495 - how about this?

no reply = fix
thanks

EDIT : do some irc mod with prophecy
i will mod other diff asap

Muzukashii

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Intelli

842 posts

Joined July 2014

Intelli 2016-08-13T13:44:06+00:00

Hi, sorry for late mod ;-;

Kwantan:

00:00:000 (0) - I would definitely try to lower the SV more with green ticks, because even though its at 1.4, its almost entirely unreadable for new players (like this)
01:04:904 (83) - I would be careful here, because leaving strong beats (especially ones with pretty big vocal/percussion hits on them) open can throw players off

Futsuu:

00:00:000 (0) - Same as Kwantan
00:46:312 (105) - Remove finish on first 2 (ddK)
00:53:073 (123) - kd dk dk
01:08:918 (166) - Remove one of these notes? It is very hard for a futsuu (I'd suggest kk ddk or kkkd k)
01:20:115 (190) - same as 00:53:073 (123)
01:27:721 (211) - Remove finish (kDD K)

Ron's Muzu:

00:13:143 (38) - Move to the blue tick on the right
00:19:904 (66) - ^
00:23:073 (78) - I'd try something more like this (but through the whole section)
00:53:073 (43) - kd dk
01:06:594 (91) - ^
01:20:115 (141) - ^

aabc's Oni:

00:00:000 (0) - Awesome diff, just be careful because the kiais semm pretty easy when compared to the section at 00:07:439 (1)

Did you say to mod Inner? I can't remember xd
(its fun tho)

Prophecy

1,794 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Prophecy 2016-08-13T13:48:53+00:00

Thanks for modding~ All fixed except the first SV issue :3

IamKwaN

osu! Alumni

3,905 posts

Joined August 2012

IamKwaN 2016-08-14T07:22:38+00:00

Skylish wrote:
> 00:56:453 - to 00:59:833 - Aren't you trying to map the drum? The effect is upsetting imo. Might be following the vocal part for an easier notification for Kantan level players? try to redo the whole pattern following the vocal as the kat added 00:56:876 - implies i am going to map the vocals
> 00:56:876 - adding k? just like what you mapped at 00:50:538 (64,65,66) - . 00:57:298 (74) - is changed to d(as you can see above from the cap. screen) in order to suit the pitch better. ok
> 01:27:721 - ending with a slider in 2016 is strange, frankly speaking. don't know if this is true or not. Considerng 01:27:721 - d, 01:28:566 - K? i find slider more comfortable to me lol

Yoratama wrote:
00:07:017 - kat? snare drum there. ok
00:42:087 (54,56,58) - kat or Big Kat is better imo, because snare drum is so loud. nah, i find don more suitable for building the prominence of 00:46:312 (59,60) -
00:58:566 - don? i think it same sound with this 00:57:721 - changed the rhythm for this stanza
01:09:129 (86,87,88) - better k d k imo, because that fit drum sound. following vocal for k/d

bananannian wrote:
00:19:270 - aha, i amended it to kd dD now lol
01:00:679 (78) - missing out 01:00:679 - isn't really suitable imo

Intelli wrote:
00:00:000 (0) - makes sense
01:04:904 (83) - something has been done in the above mods

Thank you for mods!

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strickluke

433 posts

Joined March 2015

strickluke 2016-08-14T10:18:15+00:00

Hello! have a mod

Suggestions
Unrankable issues

KwaN's Kantan

Why do people keep making this song double bpm?? Change this bpm to 142 for consistency throughout the mapset and better readability for newer players (it's a Kantan).
00:12:509 (13,14,15,16) - Why does the rhythm change here? This is weird for a Kantan difficulty
00:31:101 (38,39,40) - Change this to k k k instead of D D D, the finishers feel out of place.
00:34:059 (42) - Change this to k
00:40:397 (51,52,53) - Change this to d k D or k k D
00:48:002 (61) - Maybe change this to K
00:59:200 (77) - Maybe get rid of this note
00:59:833 (78) - Change this to k
00:59:833 (78) - Move this to 00:59:622 (78) -
01:27:721 (16) - Change this pattern to something like k d K, a slider plays weird for this part

Futsuu

00:11:031 (20) - Why does the rhythm change here? Move this note to 00:11:876 (22) -
00:17:791 (40) - Again, the rhythm should change here. Move this note to 00:18:636 (42) -
00:19:059 (44) - Delete this note
00:46:313 (104,105,106) - Change this pattern to k k k
I feel like you are missing a few strong beats in this Kiai time due to the patterns you have chosen. I know that you have chosen to map to the vocals, but they can't just be ignored...

Ron's Muzukashii

00:49:270 (25,26,27) - You could change these triplets to ddk or dkk to mix it up a bit
It looks like you are trying to map both the drums and the vocals in the Kiai time. I would recommend sticking to drums throughout the Kiai time until a part with just vocal appears

aabc's Oni

00:33:636 (1,2) - This could be made into a 5-note stream (something like ddkkd)
00:59:833 (2) - Change this to D

Inner Oni

00:06:453 (24) - No! This part is better off on 1/4. Move this note to 00:06:383 (24) -
00:06:594 (25) - Delete this note
00:07:017 (26) - Make this into a d or k (no finisher)

Good luck!

Prophecy

1,794 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Prophecy 2016-08-14T10:21:28+00:00

strickluke wrote:
Hello! have a mod

Suggestions
Unrankable issues

Inner Oni
00:06:594 (25) - Delete this note following Vocal
00:07:017 (26) - Make this into a d or k (no finisher) Heavy drum sound here, no change, ty!

Good luck!

Thank you for your mod, not mention = fixed

[R]

1,058 posts

Joined November 2013

[R] 2016-08-15T17:07:24+00:00

Intelli wrote:
Ron's Muzu:
00:13:143 (38) - Move to the blue tick on the right possible to do, but it will make triplet hard ahead

00:19:904 (66) - ^ ^

00:23:073 (78) - I'd try something more like this (but through the whole section)

00:53:073 (43) - kd dk

01:06:594 (91) - ^

01:20:115 (141) - ^

strickluke wrote:
Ron's Muzukashii
00:49:270 (25,26,27) - You could change these triplets to ddk or dkk to mix it up a bit i want to make it simple since density is high in there
It looks like you are trying to map both the drums and the vocals in the Kiai time. I would recommend sticking to drums throughout the Kiai time until a part with just vocal appears

no reply = fix
thanks

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aabc271

osu! Alumni

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Joined August 2009

aabc271 2016-08-16T17:06:46+00:00

bananannian's mod

bananannian wrote:
aabc's Oni

wow guitar and vocal pitch mapping :O :O

00:05:538 (2) - could be a D, right now it's not very distinguished from the previous pattern and doesn't quite match the emphasis in the music Keeping d so as not to lose the emphasis on 00:05:749 (1).
00:10:291 (1) - yeah k sounds better for me, doesn't really matter though It's kind of a consistency with 00:08:601, also since at 00:10:291 (1,2) 2 is slightly higher pitched I'm using 1 as d to minimize the inconsistent impact.
00:17:052 (1) - ^ ^
00:23:918 (3) - k for snares like 00:25:608 (1) and 00:22:228 (1)? it still follows the pitch Considering rising pitch at 00:23:918 (3,1,2), it's better not to use all k imo.
00:27:298 (6) - ^ ^
00:28:988 (2) - ^ ^, 00:28:988 (2,1) are obvious.
00:30:679 (2) - ^ ^, 00:30:467 (1,2) are obvious.
01:01:312 (2,1) - k D instead of d K? vocal's pitch is going down, and onbeat D is heavier than onbeat K Applied by changing to kkkdk d. Also did the same at 00:53:918 and 01:20:960.
01:08:073 (1,1) - ^ 01:07:862 (1,1) sounds more like falling than rising...
01:09:129 (2) - no finish? Hard decision, because the emphasis is decreasing one after another. Applied these for now.
01:10:819 (4) - ^ ^

That's about it~

Intelli's mod

Intelli wrote:
aabc's Oni:
00:00:000 (0) - Awesome diff, just be careful because the kiais semm pretty easy when compared to the section at 00:07:439 (1) I guess that's hard to avoid because that's how the rhythm is composed... I guess the x1.12~1.16 kiai compensates for that?

strickluke's mod

strickluke wrote:
aabc's Oni
00:33:636 (1,2) - This could be made into a 5-note stream (something like ddkkd) Did some changes by altering 00:33:214 into kkkkd ddd
00:59:833 (2) - Change this to D Again hard decision. This sounds higher-pitched when comparing with 00:57:932 and 00:58:777. While D is possible, it removes the contrast effect which I'd like to keep. Good observation though :3

Thx for your mod

p.s. I'm going on a trip and won't be available to fix any mods until Aug 25. Sorry

Update: aabc's Oni

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Prophecy

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Prophecy 2016-08-25T04:58:17+00:00

Updated!

IamKwaN

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IamKwaN 2016-10-29T10:00:13+00:00

00:12:509 (13,14,15,16) - Why does the rhythm change here? This is weird for a Kantan difficulty i do the same for the two stanzas and it's like a practice to move to another half of the stanza, i don't find them weird.
00:59:833 (78) - Move this to 00:59:622 (78) - this sounds very weird to me, as the stress should be on white tick instead
01:27:721 (16) - Change this pattern to something like k d K, a slider plays weird for this part i changed it to k d D
Those not mentioned are fixed, thanks.

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Prophecy

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Prophecy 2016-11-03T14:45:42+00:00

Updated KwaN's Kantan.

KamizonoShinobu

722 posts

Joined October 2011

KamizonoShinobu 2017-06-03T03:51:15+00:00

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/614941 :thonkang:

Prophecy

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Prophecy 2017-08-25T16:39:10+00:00

Revived.

Surono

7,196 posts

Joined November 2013

Surono 2017-08-25T16:43:09+00:00

not Genocide wrote:
dw imma not patorikku desu

01:01:524 - ~ 01:11:664 -

Prophecy

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Prophecy 2017-08-25T16:51:24+00:00

Further spread and pattern issue will fix tomorrow.

Anyway, thanks for checking, Surono.

EDIT #1: Updated Inner with highlighted part.
EDIT #2 : Removed 1 Green line

KamizonoShinobu

722 posts

Joined October 2011

KamizonoShinobu 2017-09-08T13:49:51+00:00

Some irc check regarding Inner Oni

log

21:25 *Prophecy is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1030908 THE ORAL CIGARETTES - Kyouran Hey Kids!! [Inner Oni]]
21:25 Chocola_2287: no?
21:28 Prophecy: can you mod this?
21:28 Prophecy: because I need few more mod for Inner to rank
21:29 Chocola_2287: dafuq
21:29 Prophecy: not rank but bubble
21:29 Prophecy: Surono will mod > bubble
21:29 Chocola_2287: irc?
21:29 Prophecy: kek
21:29 Prophecy: especially kiai part
21:29 Chocola_2287: just inner or whole set
21:29 Prophecy: inner
21:29 Prophecy: he said me overmapped
21:29 Prophecy: 3Q chocola <3
21:30 Chocola_2287: I know why he said that
21:30 Prophecy: why :O
21:31 Chocola_2287: if you use BPM142 logic, the density in kiai is too high
21:31 Chocola_2287: I dont find a 9plet being reasonable in BPM142 logic
21:31 Prophecy: he said this one 01:01:524 - ~ 01:11:664 -
21:31 Prophecy: I nerfed it a bit
21:32 Prophecy: where 9 plet OwO
21:32 Chocola_2287: 01:01:524 (392) - dont remove kiai here, it is still in chorus part
21:32 Chocola_2287: 00:56:453 (353) - 
21:32 Prophecy: nope, lower bgm
21:32 Prophecy: yes you're right
21:32 Chocola_2287: what lower bgm
21:33 Prophecy: Lower background music
21:33 Prophecy: hard to explain lol
21:33 Prophecy: and the kiai will become too long
21:33 Chocola_2287: 01:11:664 (443) - kiai should end in this spot
21:34 Chocola_2287: kiai will never be too long if you use it appropiately
21:34 *Chocola_2287 is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/798270 THE ORAL CIGARETTES - Kyouran Hey Kids!! [Maximum]]
21:34 Chocola_2287: refer to this map
21:35 Prophecy: 284 BPM
21:35 Prophecy: unlike taiko wor
21:35 Chocola_2287: but the kiai time represents where the chorus part is
21:36 Prophecy: if you check the pattern
21:36 Prophecy: the dense lower
21:36 Chocola_2287: 副歌一定用kiai
21:36 Prophecy: = =
21:36 Chocola_2287: 唔關dense事
21:37 Chocola_2287: You can ask Nardo for it if you dont trust
21:37 Prophecy: I will talk with Surono later =3=
21:37 Chocola_2287: 00:06:171 (23,24,25,26,27) - I would rather leave it blank here
21:37 Chocola_2287: it feels strange when you suddenly follow vocal here
21:38 Chocola_2287: 01:25:186 (534) - you did not follow vocal here
21:38 Prophecy: removed 00:06:171 (23,24,25,26) -
21:38 Prophecy: 00:07:017 (27) -  k there
21:38 Chocola_2287: 00:05:538 (21,22) - Ctrl + G? 00:05:749 (22) - this has to be D in order to represent decreasing pitch
21:42 Prophecy: OK
21:43 Chocola_2287: 00:36:171 (225,226,227) - ; 00:37:861 (238,239,240) - etc. : Why are these inconsistent with 00:34:481 (213,214) - 
21:44 Chocola_2287: nvm guitar
21:44 Prophecy: ww
21:44 Chocola_2287: it sounded unnatural tbh
21:45 Chocola_2287: 00:51:277 (317) - delete or k ? 
21:45 Chocola_2287: it took emphasis on next note
21:46 Prophecy: k
21:46 Chocola_2287: 01:12:404 (448) - feels like this should be deleted
21:46 Chocola_2287: 2plets can emphasize the instrument patterns better
21:47 Chocola_2287: but it's your option
21:47 Prophecy: sounds good
21:47 Chocola_2287: 01:12:298 (447,448) - are at same fx 
21:47 Chocola_2287: so with 447 as a note, 448 does not need to
21:48 Chocola_2287: 01:21:805 (506) - imo you should refer to previous patterns
21:48 Prophecy: but seems like missing something at 01:13:038
21:48 Chocola_2287: last one 6plet is needed
21:50 Chocola_2287: 00:25:397 (155,165) - I prefer these note being d ; where you have d in 00:22:017 (135,145) - 
21:50 Prophecy: 506 is which previous one
21:50 Chocola_2287: consistency wise
21:50 Chocola_2287: prolly 00:48:002 (293) - 
21:50 Chocola_2287: The reason I point out 506 is because the pattern does not really go well with the music
21:51 Chocola_2287: nor it's consistent with any previous kiai part
21:52 Prophecy: k
21:53 Chocola_2287: I think that's all from my side
21:54 Prophecy: thx ;)
21:54 Chocola_2287: Surono probably will work on density
21:54 Chocola_2287: gl on ranked
21:54 Prophecy: alright

Prophecy

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Prophecy 2017-09-08T14:00:01+00:00

Fixed the Inner stuff mentioned in IRC mod.
Updated kiai time of all difficulties except KwaN's Kantan (nothing to fix, so pro)

I asked Nardo for kiai time issue:

Prophecy

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Prophecy 2017-09-16T11:44:41+00:00

Asked Skylish and qoot8123 for suggestion for Inner Oni:

Skylish

> Removed 4 notes, 6 to 7 plet -> 5 plet
> Changed some pattern

qoot8123

> Translation: The current quality of map is enough to find a BN

iloveyou4ever

825 posts

Joined September 2014

iloveyou4ever 2017-09-16T13:46:12+00:00

Hi,sorry for super late

[Inner Oni]
00:19:270 - change to k?

00:12:509 - variate from here,also fitting the guitar sound as I think guitar sound is predominant here

00:22:228 (132,133,134,135,136) - the sv is a bit weird...try adding green lines to make it look smoother while playing?

00:56:136 - add d here?

there's drum sound here and it's a bit empty to me

01:06:066 - add d here?

quite personal,I'll add it to make it more variate

01:24:024 - 01:24:446 - add note?

act as final challenge for inner oni diff

The diff looks pretty nice and clean(that's why it's starred XD)
Good Luck!

Prophecy

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Prophecy 2017-09-16T14:32:07+00:00

@ily4

Starred = BN going to mod XD, fixed all

all fixed, 0.22(+0.02) Coins obtained.

Taka030

62 posts

Joined December 2015

Taka030 2017-09-20T15:07:36+00:00

irc mod with Prophecy

Prophecy

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Prophecy 2017-09-20T15:09:10+00:00

Taka030's irc log here:

log

22:37 Taka030: 01:01:524 (387) - red ?
22:38 Prophecy: good point
22:41 Taka030: 00:19:481 (114) -  change to red               00:19:693 (115) - 00:19:798 (116) - blue
22:41 Taka030: you try try
22:41 Taka030: rubbish mod
22:41 Prophecy: 00:19:481 higher pitch 
22:42 Prophecy: 19693 ok
22:42 Prophecy: 19798 also ok
22:42 Prophecy: applied
22:42 Prophecy: 3Q

sing216

59 posts

Joined March 2015

sing216 2017-09-28T18:33:19+00:00

Hi~ sorry for late
我英文唔好同埋大家香港人, 請容許我用廣東話黎mod

[Inner Oni]

00:05:538 (21,22) - change to dK 即使聲音相同, 但我認為音符再加多少少變化會比較好
00:25:819 (154) - change to d? ^same as
00:32:580 (196,197,198,199) - ddk d 聽起來會更適合
00:40:819 (259) - change d 呢一下bass drum所以轉用don比較好

得咁多, 整體感覺都好好, 聽完幾次都係冇咩意見可以比到您... _(┐「ε:)_

This is clean and pretty fun to play.
Nice mapset, good luck

Prophecy

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Prophecy 2017-09-29T12:49:20+00:00

sing216 wrote:
Hi~ sorry for late
我英文唔好同埋大家香港人, 請容許我用廣東話黎mod

[Inner Oni]
00:05:538 (21,22) - change to dK 即使聲音相同, 但我認為音符再加多少少變化會比較好 OK
00:25:819 (154) - change to d? ^same as constant with the previous part, remains unchanged.
00:32:580 (196,197,198,199) - ddk d 聽起來會更適合 ddd d seems better
00:40:819 (259) - change d 呢一下bass drum所以轉用don比較好
OK
得咁多, 整體感覺都好好, 聽完幾次都係冇咩意見可以比到您... _(┐「ε:)_

This is clean and pretty fun to play.
Nice mapset, good luck

Thanks for your nice suggestion!

Charlotte

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Joined December 2013

Charlotte 2017-09-29T14:05:56+00:00

IRC log

21:54 Prophecy: hi charlotte :3
21:54 Charlotte: hi
21:55 Prophecy: can you help me to mod this ;w;
21:55 *Prophecy is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1030908 THE ORAL CIGARETTES - Kyouran Hey Kids!! [Inner Oni]]
21:56 Charlotte: irc is no problem?
21:56 Prophecy: ok >w<
21:57 *Charlotte is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1030908 THE ORAL CIGARETTES - Kyouran Hey Kids!! [Inner Oni]]
21:57 Charlotte: 00:03:002 - dkdkkd for various pattern
21:58 Prophecy: nice point!
22:00 Charlotte: 00:14:094 - remove.same as 00:07:439 (24,25) - 
22:01 Prophecy: applied!
22:01 Charlotte: 00:17:686 - removed.same as 00:14:200 (73,74) - 
22:01 Prophecy: OK!
22:02 Charlotte: 1/2-d k → 1/4-ddk　→ 1/2-dk → 1/4-ddk is good flow.imo
22:03 Prophecy: hmm, I prefer to make a compare with the aabc's Oni
22:05 Charlotte: above pattern is another pattern.
22:05 Charlotte: first,Can you update?
22:05 Prophecy: OK
22:06 Prophecy: done~
22:07 Charlotte: 00:07:862 (26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35) - ??
22:07 Charlotte: why odd pattern?
22:08 Charlotte: 00:17:686 - del.
22:09 Prophecy: removed.
22:10 Charlotte: 卍advice卍
22:11 Charlotte: 00:11:242 (48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70) - why here is odd pattern? even pattern please for consistency
22:11 Prophecy: fixing!!
22:14 Prophecy: Updated
22:15 Prophecy: Changing 00:34:481 (194,195,196,197,198,199) -  to new pattern
22:15 Charlotte: 00:08:601 - add k 00:10:291 - add d 00:11:981 - add k.for various pattern
22:16 Prophecy: nice point, added
22:16 Charlotte: 00:12:932 - If you want to use even pattern,dkddkkddkdk
22:17 Charlotte: 00:13:988 - stream end is here
22:17 Prophecy: dkddkkddkdk <- OK
22:19 Charlotte: 00:15:362 - 00:17:052 - 00:18:742 - same as
22:19 Charlotte: d-k-ddk pattern is boring
22:20 Prophecy: okay, followed previous one
22:23 Charlotte: 00:22:228 (117,118,119,120,121) - 00:23:918 (127,128,129,130,131) - 00:25:608 (137,138,139,140,141) - all kdkkd ;w;
22:24 Prophecy: 00:25:608 (144) -  kddkd
22:24 Prophecy: 00:23:918 (134,135,136,137,138) -  kdkdd
22:24 Prophecy: 00:22:228 (124,125,126,127,128) -  kdkkd
22:24 Prophecy: Changed above pattern respectively
22:25 Charlotte: You can use triplet.
22:25 Charlotte: for example
22:26 Charlotte: 00:21:277 - https://puu.sh/xLLYc/e89d1b7e47.jpg
22:27 Prophecy: great!
22:28 Charlotte: toilet time.Give me 5~10min
22:29 Prophecy: okay
22:49 Charlotte: back
22:50 Charlotte: online?
22:51 Prophecy: yes
22:52 Charlotte: 00:31:629 - del 00:32:263 - del
22:52 Charlotte: for clear sound.
22:55 Prophecy: Alright!
22:57 Charlotte: 00:44:411 (258,259) - swap
22:58 Prophecy: thats mean dk kk
22:58 Charlotte: yep
22:58 Charlotte: 00:44:411 - k is good.
23:00 Prophecy: okay
23:00 Prophecy: applied
23:01 Charlotte: 00:45:890 - hmm strong sound? 00:45:784 - add k.I prefer kd
23:01 Prophecy: kd
23:02 Charlotte: 01:01:946 - add d
23:02 Prophecy: alright
23:03 Charlotte: 01:11:242 - k
23:04 Prophecy: yes, higher pitch
23:05 Charlotte: That's all

Prophecy

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Topic Starter

Prophecy 2017-10-01T10:29:46+00:00

Thanks for irc mod, Updated.

D o t

250 posts

Joined May 2016

D o t 2017-10-25T15:00:29+00:00

sorry for very very big late

still short mod c:

[KwaN's Kantan]
00:41:242 (53,54) - double d finish in kantan seems not appropriate for me. delete finish on 00:41:242 (53) - or change 00:42:087 (54,56,58) - to K would be better.
00:59:833 (77) - move to 00:59:622 - ? since 75 and 76 are following vocal
01:06:594 (84) - what's the finish for? it makes me feel inconsistence.

[Futsuu]
too pro that i can mod nothing

[Inner Oni]
00:42:932 (257) - finish?
01:11:664 (429) - finish?

that's all. good luck!

Last edited by D o t 2017-10-26T01:44:19+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Prophecy

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Topic Starter

Prophecy 2017-10-25T16:43:58+00:00

~~我覺得可以~~ Remains unchanged in Inner Oni, because I follow previous notes.

Last edited by Prophecy 2017-10-26T11:04:20+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Surono

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Surono 2017-10-25T16:50:39+00:00

D o t wrote:
[Futsuu]
too pro that i can mod nothing

lol da memes is r34L

not soonTM? reply that mod then me check this again :^

IamKwaN

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IamKwaN 2017-10-26T14:51:12+00:00

00:41:242 (53,54) - double d finish in kantan seems not appropriate for me. delete finish on 00:41:242 (53) - or change 00:42:087 (54,56,58) - to K would be better. not sure why it's inappropriate, not that hard and fast to me
00:59:833 (77) - move to 00:59:622 - ? since 75 and 76 are following vocalthe position where 77 is on is also sitting on vocal and i feel like it's the emphasis, compared to timestamp where you suggest
01:06:594 (84) - what's the finish for? it makes me feel inconsistence. umm, emphasis of the higher pitch vocal?

thanks for mod~

Surono

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Joined November 2013

Surono 2017-10-27T07:40:11+00:00

>Inner Oni
* 00:13:460 - recommended to delete it since it seems overdone imo, also to give alteration with 00:12:932 - instrument rhythm between 00:13:566 - drum from here
* 00:12:932 - kkdkd more accurate in here, 00:19:693 - also apply kkdkd in here too for consistency since 00:20:221 - this start looks awkward
* 00:39:552 - quick suggestion longstream, kkddkkdkddkdk. 00:39:974 - ~ 00:40:397 - my suggestion colors in this part would make a consistency with previously kkdkd pattern emphasis
* 01:12:826 - swap with 01:12:932 - this, impact sound 01:12:932 - in here so that kat would be fit more
* 01:19:164 - unnecessary and would be overdone, delete.
* 01:24:446 - kat to give emphasis at alteration vocal 01:24:340 - 01:24:552 - that makes not monotone emphasis
Looks good but just some issues that I already pointed out here

>Muzukashii
* 00:33:002 (112,113,114) - di ubah jadi don aja biar imbang, awas kena nukelir.

>Futsuu
* nerf your footshoe.jpg check it 2nd point
* 00:07:017 - ~ 00:20:960 - rip density. 00:09:974 - delete as minibreak, 00:12:087 - don becuase 00:08:707 - similar, 00:11:242 - kat cuz as consistency following snare drum as you did, 00:12:721 - delete so its similar 00:19:481 - in here, 00:13:355 - delete you know someone will n00k this if this density is long lol, 00:16:735 - and 00:18:848 - like b4
* yes 2nd point dont miss it
* 00:30:045 - don to give alteration from 00:30:679 - here
* 00:34:481 - ~ 00:41:242 - please copaste with 00:07:439 - this part please, low diff that would be friendly if pattern is easier and consistent lol
* 00:49:481 - delete like 01:16:524 - in here
* 00:53:284 - flat vocal so don like 00:53:073 - this notes
* 00:54:552 - move to 00:54:763 - for consistency like 00:48:002 - this structures
* 01:06:805 - delete as minibreak since its calm part. dont dont overc00k lol
* 01:09:763 - delete cuz too dense and seems 01:09:552 - ~ 01:10:397 - reasonable to make this part just 1/1 d k d
* 01:12:298 - kat cuz 01:11:664 -
* 01:20:326 - and 01:21:594 - > 01:21:805 - like b4

[R]

1,058 posts

Joined November 2013

[R] 2017-10-27T14:31:16+00:00

Surono wrote:
>Muzukashii
* 00:33:002 (112,113,114) - di ubah jadi don aja biar imbang, awas kena nukelir.ok

and fixing some weird flow in first kiai
thank you sir sur

Ron's Muzukashii

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Prophecy

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Topic Starter

Prophecy 2017-10-27T15:43:23+00:00

Fixed all, Thanks surono!

Updated Muzu,Futsuu and Inner

Surono

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Joined November 2013

Surono 2017-10-27T16:21:44+00:00

recheck

>Inner Oni
* 00:14:200 - finish for consistency with 00:07:439 - loop part
* 00:20:221 - forget to move 00:20:115 - here? but yeh thats fine if you really want it but imo as player, I'd prefer move that for sake smooth playable nor empahsis
* 00:45:467 - don finish, 00:42:087 - as you did here for similar drum.

>Futsuu
* 00:14:200 - like Inner
* 00:18:002 - kat
* 00:18:848 - add don
* 00:20:326 - maybe delete, cuz its a bit close with muzu and far with futsuu
* 00:51:594 - ~ 00:59:833 - orz i forget this part is long, okay a bit nerf here. 00:53:707 - just delete this one lol
* 01:02:157 - delete, 01:08:918 - delete and 01:09:129 - change from here as kkdd 1/1 , smth smth for sake balancing
* more ez 01:27:932 - if this moved to 01:28:355 -

>Kantan
* 00:23:918 - swap with 00:24:340 - , somehow it plays dull
* 00:28:988 - 00:29:411 - same as above
* 00:59:833 - ~ 01:10:819 - I think this part need improving, 01:00:679 - kat to avoid monocolors. 01:01:524 - would map from here as D k D k as consistency at following drum and cymbal. 01:08:284 - you can add here don since its a bit far with futsuu density, 01:09:129 - from here try K d K to make variance with previous pattern * 01:01:524 - D k D k and then d K d K from 01:08:284 - here

oh yes

Last edited by Surono 2017-10-27T16:43:10+00:00, edited 3 times in total.

Prophecy

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Prophecy 2017-10-27T16:35:10+00:00

Updated. Fixed all, slightly changed following stuff:

* more ez 01:27:932 - if this moved to 01:28:355 - Following Kantan pattern instead (removed 1 notes)

KwaN allowed me to apply mod on her difficulties, Applied all stuff from Surono's mod! Thank you

Surono

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Surono 2017-10-31T16:10:30+00:00

Beatmap Size ~OP~ *cuz has lyrics wow*

yeah seems low diffs balance but i still a little bit concerned but well nvm the total notes seems fine for me and the spread..
note: next person could check the low diffs intensif, yeah please check the density between the low diffs.

di gelembung supaya bahagia

Prophecy

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Prophecy 2017-10-31T23:25:00+00:00

Thanks surono!

@NEXT BN: I will fix the SV of Inner (1.39999999 -> 1.4) after your mod

tasuke912

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tasuke912 2017-11-03T11:05:54+00:00

As requested

[

StoryBoard]

00:51:383 - Missing Lyrics: "終わらない焦燥" (Owaranai shousou)

[

Kantan]

00:57:932 (75,76,77,78) - This rhythm seems kinda awkward. I suggest that you move 00:57:932 (75,76) - to 1/2 right.
01:04:904 - Missing note? If you want to make a break try removing 01:00:679 (78) - instead.

[

Futsuu]

00:46:313 (97,98,99) - In my opinion kkk doesn't emphasize the song well. I'd change the second note to d.
01:01:524 - Why not follow the kicks in this part?

[

Muzukashii]

00:49:164 (25) - should be moved to 00:49:376 -.
00:39:552 - should have a note for consistency since you focused on the drums in this part.

[

Oni]

01:01:524 (1,1,2,3) - I really don't think it works well. Follow the sound.
00:20:960 - To be honest I don't think slowdown needed, since SV change is slight and the song changes the rhythm here. Also Inner Oni

[

Inner Oni]

00:46:312 (274,275,276,277,278) - I suggest that you make it kdddk in order to emphasize the drums and make difference from Oni
01:06:066 - 01:06:911 - -etc.- Why not follow the kicks like 01:01:524 (377,378,379,380) - ? I thought you focused on the kicks at first

Prophecy

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Prophecy 2017-11-03T11:22:07+00:00

Please redownload SB (Updated lyrics.)

All fixed except the timing points of Oni:

tasuke912 wrote:
[ Oni]
00:20:960 - To be honest I don't think slowdown needed, since SV change is slight and the song changes the rhythm here. Also Inner Oni

It obvious that the previous part seems faster (intense) than the vocal part, therefore, slow down is fine for me.

jrcrash

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jrcrash 2017-11-03T13:00:39+00:00

Its very interesting for it's gamemode. GOOD JOB

[R]

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[R] 2017-11-03T13:07:55+00:00

tasuke912 wrote:
As requested

[ Muzukashii]
00:49:164 (25) - should be moved to 00:49:376 -. ok
00:39:552 - should have a note for consistency since you focused on the drums in this part. i made some change around to make it more fit the drum

Thank you tasuke

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aabc271

osu! Alumni

1,334 posts

Joined August 2009

aabc271 2017-11-03T13:43:08+00:00

Didn't check this mapset for months since I didn't expect this to be revived o.O

Just had a recheck myself, and had a chat with tasuke about my diff

Should be fine to go now, thx for mod

Chatlog, for those interested

20:59 aabc271: :3
20:59 tasuke912: :-3
20:59 aabc271: I just went online, so if any changes needed please tell me directly
21:00 aabc271: I can check the diff now :-3
21:01 tasuke912: did you check your current diff?
21:01 aabc271: The mapset was graved and so I didn't recheck for some time
21:01 aabc271: Some minutes please, for me to check now
21:01 tasuke912: i think mapset is ready now, so if you are okay i will nominate
21:01 tasuke912: okay
21:22 aabc271: I'll ask phophecy to first update my map
21:22 aabc271: After update you can recheck :3
21:23 tasuke912: :3
21:26 aabc271: Should be updated :3
21:26 aabc271: Didn't apply any of your mod yet, so please tell me here!
21:29 *tasuke912 is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1030837 THE ORAL CIGARETTES - Kyouran Hey Kids!! [aabc's Oni]]
21:29 tasuke912: 00:20:960 - I thought gradual SV shouldn't start from here
21:30 aabc271: then from where?
21:30 tasuke912: no slowdown, or around 00:20:115 -
21:31 tasuke912: Prophecy chose no gradual sv
21:33 aabc271: What about 00:21:277 - x1.05, one green line only?
21:34 tasuke912: good
21:34 aabc271: owob
21:35 tasuke912: owob
21:38 tasuke912: Patterns are okay
21:38 tasuke912: bubbling time?
21:39 aabc271: Let me ask for update, wait =w=

tasuke912

Former osu!taiko Champion: 2018

1,347 posts

Joined June 2013

tasuke912 2017-11-03T13:53:49+00:00

I swear I respect the mappers!!