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Doormat

Joined September 2013

Doormat 2016-08-21T21:14:45+00:00

CrystilonZ wrote:
here to clarify something I messed up lol

In Doormat's Diff
00:47:548 (1,2,3,4,5) - I didn't notice the SV change earlier lol. I just assumed that you increased the spacing on these.
Anyways, what I meant is SV increase on these notes is kinda out of place. Well, imo SV should correspond to the pace of the music - the instrumental stuff - not the vocal. So, it should be better to increase the SV to 1.1x here 00:49:239 and space these 00:47:548 (1,2,3,4,5) - 1.7x apart (1.0x SV). If you feel the vocal should be emphasized more, increase the jump on 00:47:548 (1) - to 2.0x or somewhere around that.
01:12:901 (1,1) - I meant the spacing lol. 01:14:591 (1) - should be spaced further.

NO KDS

thanks for clarifying; that 1.1x SV was a mistake on my part; removed and fixed accordingly

Electoz

[Doormat's Hard]

00:35:717 (1) - Really hard to read the kicks imo, can it be like triplet+a 1/2 repeat or sth? Also can be confused with 00:48:605 (4) .
00:50:506 (5) - The placement of this thing can be improved I think, like, it's neither cleanly placed next to 00:49:239 (1) nor blanketed with 00:49:661 (2) .

tried my best to apply both your suggestions, thanks electoz

Lasse

Lasse wrote:
[doormat]
00:00:225 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - same what i wrote for akitoshi lol intentionally the same rhythm-wise so that when the vocals come they have greater impact since it breaks up the monotomy
00:23:041 (2,3) - kinda unique 1/4s, making them clickable would be nice i prefer sliders to bring out more emphasis to the red and white ticks; the blue ticks don't need as much emphasis here imo
can't really see a logic behind the 1/4 stacks in the slow part. mainly for pattern variety, but willing to change if others also question this
00:25:999 (2,3) - what is this rhythm. doesnt work with vocals and also not with instruments http://i.imgur.com/drXcgn6.jpg for vocals or http://i.imgur.com/W5vnulS.jpg for drums or whatever changed to something more like kalibe's rhythm
00:58:323 (2) - can this not end on sth much stronger than is starts on? doesn't work here at all since the head isnt even mapped to start of new vocal or anything in retrospect my rhythm here was kind of stupid.. made the (1) a repeat slider, hopefully that fits better
gl

Depiforc

Deppyforce wrote:
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00:06:985 (1,2,3) - 00:08:675 (1,2,3) - shud hav hihgre spcanig tahn 00:00:225 (1,2,3) - imo czu ist edn fo vesre its sam spacign bcuz red lasse's mdo
00:05:295 (1,3) - fxi blnakte lo lo k
00:37:196 (6,1) - shud empatiz it mroe tis pleys almsot saem as 00:36:773 (4,5) - gud poitn
01:3 4:872 (1) - plcae ti lkei x443 y301 wud flwo ncier imo czu sildre si mvoing threr movd somwehr elsa

gl! ur nto vinxos stpo taklign lik hm

answered to Rizen's mod suggestions via the irc chatlog he posted so i don't see the need to repeat what i changed since it's all there

Mako Sakata

Mako Sakata wrote:
Hard
00:36:563 (3) - Due to drum sequence, I think the stacked will be more natural if stacked with (4) instead (2) will give it a try
01:16:281 (1,2,3) - Make the hitsound same with 01:12:901 (1,2,3) - literally they share same music
01:26:633 - You can try to use normal clap on that one, the whistle just sound too quite to hightlight the drum
i didn't work on hitsounds but i'm considering doing my own hitsounds.. will keep this in mind if i decide to go through with that

C u r i

[C u r i] wrote:
[Doormat's Hard]
When do you give me normal on my mapset soon tm (i'm actually almost done lol)
01:20:717 (3,2) - avoid overlap plz k

GL!

- Frontier -

- Frontier - wrote:
[Doormat's Hard]
Why this diff's bg is different from the others? i just wanna know. if you've played the game or watched the anime, you learn that Sorey and Mikleo have a really strong friendship/bromance since they've known each other since they were babies, so i wanted to use a bg that focuses on their friendship by using this bg since it's only Sorey and Mikleo
00:00:647 (2) - move to x 158 y 133 for a perfect blanket and imo ctrl+g this is better for flow imo this breaks the blanket and the ctrl+g breaks the emphasis
01:34:872 (1) - maybe move this down for better movement? sure

thanks for the mods everyone~ sorry for late kalibe =w=; still not sure if i'm gonna use custom hitsounds for my diff so i copied hitsounds for now
https://puu.sh/qJvcq/6b83d3aa44.zip

Akitoshi

2,684 posts

Joined August 2014

Akitoshi 2016-08-23T17:27:05+00:00

Mako Sakata wrote:
Normal
00:18:816 (1) - Inconsistence nc oops
00:35:506 - and 00:35:717 - You forget drum sampleset on those two ok
00:41:844 (3,4) - If you trying to follow the vocal, then you should ctrl+g those two. Due to vocal literally there is nothing to emphsize here 00:42:055 - that just a long vocal of "teraaasarete" maybe let me keep as current one now, since I want to emphasize "sa" and as something new pitch of vocal thingy.

- Frontier - wrote:
[Akitoshi's Normal]
00:13:323 (6,1) - not perfect blanket. not really messed but ok...

thanks!

q

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Kalibe

2,060 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Kalibe 2016-08-23T19:41:02+00:00

updated~

Now waiting for sheela and pentori !

sheela

2,651 posts

Joined October 2011

sheela 2016-09-03T23:47:42+00:00

Hello hello! Sorry for the late mod.

[Easy]

01:04:450 (1,3) - Sorry for being "nazi", but the blanket is a little off. You can fix it by moving the last slider node of 01:06:140 (3) - a bit down.
01:19:239 (3,4) - The flow got crooked after the linear flow on 01:17:971 (1,2,3) - due to the way the slider 01:19:661 (4) - is going, resulting a weird flow to play in my opinion. I think a good way to fix this is to Ctrl + H 01:19:661 (4) - so that the flow in-between 01:19:239 (3,4) - is more fluid and direct.

[Akitoshi's Normal]

01:23:886 (5,6) - Flows like this can be a bit weird to play, because of the angle of the slider that is a bit too to the right. I think a way to fix this is to use the end part of the slider as the beginning of the slider. Basically you can do Ctrl + H, Ctrl + J, Ctrl + G, and place it near 01:23:886 (5) -.

[Doormat's Hard]

00:35:506 (4,1) - The spacing here is quite sudden and can be hard to play in this kind of difficulty. I think it would be better to retract the spacing to the consistent 1.50x spacing you use in this difficulty. The players should be able to read better and it won't feel too sudden if the spacing was little.

[Insane]

00:01:070 (3,1) - Personally I don't like this overlap. Since the slider 00:01:070 (3) - is near 00:01:915 (1) -, returning to a similar place during this part doesn't fit with the music, which brings inconsistency if you compare this to 00:02:760 (3,1) - and 00:04:450 (3,1) - And the slider 00:01:915 (1) - was a bit too hidden by the long slider, so it was a bit hard to see it.
00:35:717 (1,2) - I don't understand why there are kicksliders here. Kicksliders are too sudden in this part. When the part is all slow and calm with rhythms that are not hard, adding kicksliders definitely feels surprising and not fitting with the music. If I were you, I would add a triplet with a repeat slider, like this rhythm.

[Sotarks' Melancholy]

00:23:041 - Add a clickable object on this tick, like a hitcircle, to follow the beginning of the stand out piano part?

Feel free to call me for a recheck.

Kalibe

2,060 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Kalibe 2016-09-04T00:38:30+00:00

sheela wrote:
Hello hello! Sorry for the late mod.

[Easy]
01:04:450 (1,3) - Sorry for being "nazi", but the blanket is a little off. You can fix it by moving the last slider node of 01:06:140 (3) - a bit down. yea, nice catch!
01:19:239 (3,4) - The flow got crooked after the linear flow on 01:17:971 (1,2,3) - due to the way the slider 01:19:661 (4) - is going, resulting a weird flow to play in my opinion. I think a good way to fix this is to Ctrl + H 01:19:661 (4) - so that the flow in-between 01:19:239 (3,4) - is more fluid and direct. instead of that i reworked pattern to get more freedom while gameplay, should be good now ><
[Insane]
00:01:070 (3,1) - Personally I don't like this overlap. Since the slider 00:01:070 (3) - is near 00:01:915 (1) -, returning to a similar place during this part doesn't fit with the music, which brings inconsistency if you compare this to 00:02:760 (3,1) - and 00:04:450 (3,1) - And the slider 00:01:915 (1) - was a bit too hidden by the long slider, so it was a bit hard to see it. i don't get why that will be hard to read, it's pretty much visible, even with HD so i don't see any problem with that. About overlap.. i made second one 00:06:985 (1,4) - that feels really similar, so i think it's fine too ;w;
00:35:717 (1,2) - I don't understand why there are kicksliders here. Kicksliders are too sudden in this part. When the part is all slow and calm with rhythms that are not hard, adding kicksliders definitely feels surprising and not fitting with the music. If I were you, I would add a triplet with a repeat slider, like this rhythm. yaa, you're right, fixed rhythm
Feel free to call me for a recheck.

thx for mod sheela! Will call you when gd'ers responds to theirs diffs.

Akitoshi

2,684 posts

Joined August 2014

Akitoshi 2016-09-04T01:35:24+00:00

Fixed from sheela's suggestion, I hope I did it in a right way :3

asd

osu file format v14

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Doormat

2,049 posts

Joined September 2013

Doormat 2016-09-04T01:40:48+00:00

reduced distance at the part sheela mentioned; decided to just stick with kalibe's hitsounds because i'm too lazy to do my own lmao

zzzz

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: ending.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 50823
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.3
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.5
BeatDivisor: 8
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.5

[Metadata]
Title:calling
TitleUnicode:calling
Artist:fhana
ArtistUnicode:fhána
Creator:Kalibe
Version:Doormat's Hard
Source:テイルズ オブ ゼスティリア ザ クロス
Tags:Tales of Zestiria the X Cross ufotable ending akitoshi doormat sotarks TV size
BeatmapID:1035086
BeatmapSetID:481927

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:5.5
ApproachRate:6.5
SliderMultiplier:2.4
SliderTickRate:2

[Events]
//Background and Video events
Video,0,"zestiria+ed.avi"
0,0,"best bromance.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

[TimingPoints]
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Sotarks

3,493 posts

Joined May 2014

Sotarks 2016-09-04T18:47:30+00:00

sheela wrote:
[Sotarks' Melancholy]
00:23:041 - Add a clickable object on this tick, like a hitcircle, to follow the beginning of the stand out piano part?
aaa sorry but i wanted to map a reverse here to make a kind of break for the previous rythmn even tho it ends on a emphasized piano sound, but gameplay wise it actually fits and makes sense, since I also consider focusing the voice in priority, reason of this slider ... so ye

thanks !

upadtae

nice meme

sheela

2,651 posts

Joined October 2011

sheela 2016-09-05T02:23:17+00:00

Cool cool. Here's your bubble!

Good luck with the qualification!

Kalibe

2,060 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Kalibe 2016-09-05T13:08:55+00:00

Thx sheela! <3

now waiting for Pentori.

Pentori

1,157 posts

Joined November 2015

Pentori 2016-09-05T13:19:19+00:00

o
will check tmmr

Underforest

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Joined July 2015

Underforest 2016-09-05T22:46:29+00:00

o.o

Pentori

1,157 posts

Joined November 2015

Pentori 2016-09-06T13:15:47+00:00

late! so sorry uwu

[Easy]
01:24:732 (1) - can you follow rhythms like 01:28:112 (1,2,3) - instead of having reverse slider here, because what you're implying to the player is that it's the same as 01:21:351 (1) - which it really isn't :v

[Akitoshi's Normal]
00:53:886 (5) - i don't hear a clap in the music so i dont think u should artificially add one
00:53:253 (4,5) - ^ in addition to that comment, why not include the clap in your rhythm by ctrl g'ing this. you did it here where you ignored vocals 00:48:182 (2,3)

[Doormat's Hard]
00:35:717 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - hm ok, i find this is really intimidating for a couple of reasons:

00:36:351 (4,5,6) - this is the only part in this diff that overlaps over previous objects and players may be startled when seeing this. a pattern like this probably needs ar 7 or 7.5 to work but since your entire diff is mapped with spaced objects, higher ar won't make sense
00:36:351 (4,5,6,7,8) - and although it may suit the music, the increase in density here can be quite alarming because the music isn't climaxing yet whereas something like 00:50:084 (3,4,5,6) - makes sense as it leads into the kiai time

u could probably turn 00:36:563 (5,6,7,8) - into 1/2 sliders (or 1/4 in this case) so its more noob-friendly

[Insane]
00:54:309 (1) - could u move this down a little? to avoid this overlap http://puu.sh/r1PZY/431660c5d2.jpg
01:23:041 (1,2) - how come you chose to decrease distance here? shouldn't this be a build up

[Sotarks' Melancholy]
never seen this diff name before xd
00:05:295 (4) - nc for consistency imo
00:33:816 (9,1) - intensity between these two sounds larger than 00:33:394 (8,9) - so you should adjust spacings to represent that
00:55:577 (1,2) - swap ncs here, since 00:55:999 (2) - is a long stronger and is consistent with 00:52:619 (1)

poke me for heart!!

Sotarks

3,493 posts

Joined May 2014

Sotarks 2016-09-06T13:24:33+00:00

Pentori wrote:
[Sotarks' Melancholy]
never seen this diff name before xd SAEMMM XD
00:33:816 (9,1) - intensity between these two sounds larger than 00:33:394 (8,9) - so you should adjust spacings to represent that the fact is here I wanted a higher intensity00:33:394 (8,9,1) - here because it's the ending of the previous patern before towana start pausing her voice 00:34:027 (1) - here that I feel doesn't need much emphasis since she's holding a low voice here, but still got some spacing with the back&fourth flow.
poke me for heart!!

rest fixed! thanks!!

fex

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Akitoshi

2,684 posts

Joined August 2014

Akitoshi 2016-09-06T13:25:23+00:00

fixed from pentori's mod, I ctrl+g the rhythm for clap.

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Kalibe

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Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Kalibe 2016-09-06T13:32:25+00:00

ok, only waiting for doormat and i'll update

edit: updated, i fixed all things in my diffs!

Last edited by Kalibe 2016-09-06T14:05:16+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Doormat

2,049 posts

Joined September 2013

Doormat 2016-09-06T13:56:42+00:00

@pentori, good point. i still want to illustrate the fact that the music is starting to get a bit more intense so i'm gonna keep them as 1/4 sliders. it's kind of hard to map outside of the overlaps due to being trapped in a corner like this though, and for the most part i think it should be fine since imo it's done in a manner that isn't too difficult to predict =w= plus, given the slow bpm and decent ar players should have enough time to react to it

ok

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