Veil of Maya - Mikasa [Osu|OsuMania] · forum

GENDER BENDER

Joined June 2013

GENDER BENDER 2016-09-14T21:54:51+00:00

From my queue
~~Never worked so hard modding a mapset in my life~~
This song is so good xd good luck! hope ranked some day

General

artist should be 'VEIL OF MAYA' not 'Veil of Maya' proof
background is not the recommended size of 1366x768 it's 1365 off by 1
delete soft-hitclap.wav . I did not see you use it once, and even if you did no1 would hear it because it's so quiet

xt-'s Beginner

A lot of distance snap issues with AIMod, please take a look, it's recommended that Easy difficulties strictly follow one ds, especially for a beginner difficulty.

Also, some people might argue that SV changes in easy diffs are bad and may confuse new players, but it played out ok for me so I won't be that guy

Some new combos in here look wrong like 00:08:957 (1) - I could tell that there is no change in guitar pitch, while this section 00:09:776 (2) - has a different guitar pitch than the previous one, meaning the NC should be on this slider instead. There are other ones, I'm not going to point out all of them, but you get the general idea

00:01:594 (1) - About sliders that go horizontal like this: rotate 5% or remake it into a more creative shape or something, so when people look at it, it doesn't look lazy some more to point out: 00:19:594 (1) - 00:21:230 (2) - 00:32:685 (3) -
00:11:412 (3) - Remake this slider with three points only. By doing this, your slider becomes a perfect arc shape, instead of looking either flat or pointy.
00:17:139 (3) - I see no reason for this slider to be this long, doesn't seem to match anything in the music, I'd rather see this instead to match the rest of this section
00:26:139 (1) - Remake this slider into a different shape please, this looks a bit boring and lazy, not to mention part of it goes offscreen played with HR
00:29:412 (1) - what's the point of extra turning points if you're gonna make this a straight slider -_- curve it or delete the extra turning points
00:35:139 (4) - Remake this slider please, with three points only.
00:46:594 (3,5) - make these two slider parallel for good symmetry
00:46:594 (3) - also since the bpm changes suddenly, it's best to use SV multiplier here to match the SV from before, so that new players don't miss.
01:12:775 (7) - fix blanket kudos pls
01:15:230 (1) - can this not overlap with previous slider, it doesn't look pretty, and you can blanket this slider with the previous sliderend
01:18:503 (3,1,2,1) - recommend changing these... symmetry mapping only works when you do it at the right time
01:38:139 (3) - breaks flow
01:59:412 (1,2,3) - no, no ,no... remake please, so it's a perfect arc, this looks really bad
02:11:684 (1) - ^
02:47:684 (2) - breaks flow
02:55:866 - unneeded timing point
Conclusion: Not much attention paid to aesthetics, and this is REALLY important to getting maps ranked. I saw many opportunities for blankets and/or sliderart. Flow is ok but a bit choppy. Not many problems rhythm-wise. Should stick with a good distance snap and avoid simplistic/lazy looking sliders. To me this map looked like it was mapped by a not very experienced mapper. My best advice is to take time and analyse other maps of the same difficulty and see what your map lacks compared to theirs.

Normal

00:35:139 (6) - change this slider to highlight the drum stream here, kinda like how you did it here 00:41:685 (6,7) -
00:46:594 (2) - fix blanket kudos pls
00:57:230 (5) - I'm against this, feel like new players might get confused on the back and forth a bit. I recommend changing to two sliders
01:07:048 (1) - fix blanket kudos pls
01:18:503 (4) - fix blanket kudos pls
01:20:139 (1) - random flow break ok
01:44:684 (4) - blanket with slider, not sliderend
03:04:866 - add a circle here and stack with 03:05:684 (2) ? idunno feels kinda void
not much else to say solid map

Hard

01:55:321 (3) - clap
02:13:321 (3) - o boi... I'm going to assume that you tried your best to make this look like a perfect circle, and not some oval >.> I'm going to try my best to explain this... Ask me in game if you're unclear. make a different slider with 3 points that looks like the circle that is going to be on your slider, then on the timeline, move it right next to your slider, and then stack your slider on top of it. Illustration see how i stacked your slider right on top of the circle slider? I can see that the slider changes directions at 02:14:139 - to emphasize the clap sound, you can make a slider that goes from 02:13:321 - to 02:14:139 - and stack your slider on top of it. OK that was a lot to explain, moving on
02:51:093 (4) - and 02:52:730 (4) - I'm not sure if this works... the missing clap sounds make it kinda weird to play, which makes these sliders seem out of place. May want to consider another pattern?

Gonna apply more of my personal opinion about flow and rhythm and stuff from here

Insane

00:09:366 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - seems to be missing hitsounds
00:17:412 (5) - drum sampleset, not sure if intentional, seemed out of place so i mentioned it
00:38:412 (3) - clap
00:45:980 (2,3) - make these 2 sliders symmetrical to match 00:45:980 (2,3) , for aesthetic purposes
00:46:594 (4) - stack with 00:45:776 (1) ?
00:46:594 (4,5,6,7,1) - this flow is kinda choppy, I suggest breaking the flow at the clap sound alltogether. move 5 to somewhere like x:56 y:272 and 7 to somewhere like x:64 y:152 to make it a star (don't actually use these coordinations if you do decide to make it a star, make a pentagon with compose polygons and stack your circles on it if you want to make a perfect star)
00:53:139 (1,2,3,4,1) - again flow kinda choppy :/
01:04:321 (3,4,5,6) - flow broken
01:05:412 (1) - perfect stack kudosu pls
01:07:866 (4,6) - switch 4 and 6 for non broken choppy flow
01:12:503 (1) - perfect stack kudosu pls
01:13:184 (4) - make this slider start at 01:13:321, and add a circle at 01:13:184 . This is to match the rhythm you have going at 01:12:775 (2,3) , delivers better gameplay, less confusion. also aesthetic purposes, looks neater and more well organized. I realize that the drum roll sounds consistant here, but you don't have to map every sound in the song for an insane.
01:15:503 (2,3) - just stack these normally or don't stack them pls, this looks really bad, and there isn't any special reason to do this.
01:17:139 (2) - same
01:20:821 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - missing hitsounds
01:23:412 (1) - awkwardly breaks flow, make the sliderend go downwards instead of up to fix this
01:27:912 (5) - move this down a little so it looks like it would fit into slider 4
01:48:775 (3) - clap
01:49:593 (1) - breaks flow
02:14:139 - map this please, a long slider or something, it's undermapped.
03:02:548 (4,5,6,7,1) - the flow here is like nonexistant please fix D:
03:04:866 - map this please, undermapped

Extra

Not gonna go into that much depth in this diff, most of the stuff from Insane applies here
seems abit overuse on those sliders with reverse arrows, try to use either kicksliders or a stream most of the time, you can express more freedom in creativity that way instead of having cursor stay on slider for the entire time, also makes modders or bns go "WOW!" instead of thinking you're too lazy to make kickslider patterns xd
01:05:821 (3) - move a bit away from what you're trying to blanket, feels cramped
01:34:184 (4,5) - stack sliderends
01:52:866 (1,2) - holy sht

I'll skip wretched because I tried to pass it like 10 times and couldn't O_O
however the flow seemed to me like it needed a bit of work, kept breaking off the momentum and stuff for no reason. It's ok to break off the flow if it fits with the music itself, not cuz you felt like it ._.

Bergy

352 posts

Joined November 2015

Topic Starter

Bergy 2016-09-15T22:58:05+00:00

Not Tomori wrote:
From my queue
~~Never worked so hard modding a mapset in my life~~
This song is so good xd good luck! hope ranked some day ok
General
artist should be 'VEIL OF MAYA' not 'Veil of Maya' proof HELP NEED BN IS WEIRD pREDICAMETN !!
background is not the recommended size of 1366x768 it's 1365 off by 1 TRIGGERED
delete soft-hitclap.wav . I did not see you use it once, and even if you did no1 would hear it because it's so quiet yea was gonna use it for blast beat snares but didnt feel like making it the right volume and then realized it would be awkward but jsut forgot to delete it i guess

Normal
00:35:139 (6) - change this slider to highlight the drum stream here, kinda like how you did it here 00:41:685 (6,7) - Yea fixed in every section
00:46:594 (2) - fix blanket kudos pls
00:57:230 (5) - I'm against this, feel like new players might get confused on the back and forth a bit. I recommend changing to two sliders It follows the loudest rhythm of the song, 2 sliders really wouldn't feel the same at all
01:07:048 (1) - fix blanket kudos pls
01:18:503 (4) - fix blanket kudos plsyea ok fixed all
01:20:139 (1) - random flow break ok yea ok
01:44:684 (4) - blanket with slider, not sliderend yea ok i was just lazy xdddddddddddd
03:04:866 - add a circle here and stack with 03:05:684 (2) ? idunno feels kinda void ok
not much else to say solid map

Hard
01:55:321 (3) - clap im happy and i know it
02:13:321 (3) - o boi... I'm going to assume that you tried your best to make this look like a perfect circle, and not some oval >.> I'm going to try my best to explain this... Ask me in game if you're unclear. make a different slider with 3 points that looks like the circle that is going to be on your slider, then on the timeline, move it right next to your slider, and then stack your slider on top of it. Illustration see how i stacked your slider right on top of the circle slider? I can see that the slider changes directions at 02:14:139 - to emphasize the clap sound, you can make a slider that goes from 02:13:321 - to 02:14:139 - and stack your slider on top of it. OK that was a lot to explain, moving on BOI yea i fixed just me being lazy again xdddd
02:51:093 (4) - and 02:52:730 (4) - I'm not sure if this works... the missing clap sounds make it kinda weird to play, which makes these sliders seem out of place. May want to consider another pattern? yea changed rhythm so u click on snare
Gonna apply more of my personal opinion about flow and rhythm and stuff from here

Insane
00:09:366 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - seems to be missing hitsounds 456 dont because there's no snare on them, but i fixed 12345
00:17:412 (5) - drum sampleset, not sure if intentional, seemed out of place so i mentioned it yea not intentional
00:38:412 (3) - clap ye
00:45:980 (2,3) - make these 2 sliders symmetrical to match 00:45:980 (2,3) , for aesthetic purposes ya
00:46:594 (4) - stack with 00:45:776 (1) ? ya
00:46:594 (4,5,6,7,1) - this flow is kinda choppy, I suggest breaking the flow at the clap sound alltogether. move 5 to somewhere like x:56 y:272 and 7 to somewhere like x:64 y:152 to make it a star (don't actually use these coordinations if you do decide to make it a star, make a pentagon with compose polygons and stack your circles on it if you want to make a perfect star) yea just made a star
00:53:139 (1,2,3,4,1) - again flow kinda choppy :/ moved to stack with the 2
01:04:321 (3,4,5,6) - flow broken ye
01:05:412 (1) - perfect stack kudosu pls dude thats so far away why even just go away smh tbh rofl
01:07:866 (4,6) - switch 4 and 6 for non broken choppy flow i dig it
01:12:503 (1) - perfect stack kudosu pls what am i even stacking
01:13:184 (4) - make this slider start at 01:13:321, and add a circle at 01:13:184 . This is to match the rhythm you have going at 01:12:775 (2,3) , delivers better gameplay, less confusion. also aesthetic purposes, looks neater and more well organized. I realize that the drum roll sounds consistant here, but you don't have to map every sound in the song for an insane. i just got rid of the 1/4 reverse sliders tbh cause they are pretty wack smh
01:15:503 (2,3) - just stack these normally or don't stack them pls, this looks really bad, and there isn't any special reason to do this. ok
01:17:139 (2) - same same
01:20:821 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - missing hitsounds oh no!
01:23:412 (1) - awkwardly breaks flow, make the sliderend go downwards instead of up to fix this k
01:27:912 (5) - move this down a little so it looks like it would fit into slider 4 kkk
01:48:775 (3) - clap xd
01:49:593 (1) - breaks flow kkkkkkk
02:14:139 - map this please, a long slider or something, it's undermapped. added circle
03:02:548 (4,5,6,7,1) - the flow here is like nonexistant please fix D:
03:04:866 - map this please, undermapped okk

Extra
Not gonna go into that much depth in this diff, most of the stuff from Insane applies here
seems abit overuse on those sliders with reverse arrows, try to use either kicksliders or a stream most of the time, you can express more freedom in creativity that way instead of having cursor stay on slider for the entire time, also makes modders or bns go "WOW!" instead of thinking you're too lazy to make kickslider patterns xd i hate kicksliders (both playing and mapping) but still added some because u have a point. i just feel taht kicksliders aren't even as good at representing 1/4 as just a reverse slider because it feels like you're just playing 1/2, but makes it feel awkward since it's 1/4.
01:05:821 (3) - move a bit away from what you're trying to blanket, feels cramped already changed this part because ^^^^^^^^^^^
01:34:184 (4,5) - stack sliderends whoops im almost 100% those were stacked at one point
01:52:866 (1,2) - holy sht yea boi u talkin shit about my sliders boi real men use red points to make wave sliders
I'll skip wretched because I tried to pass it like 10 times and couldn't O_O
however the flow seemed to me like it needed a bit of work, kept breaking off the momentum and stuff for no reason. It's ok to break off the flow if it fits with the music itself, not cuz you felt like it ._. rip

lit120

3,251 posts

Joined August 2013

lit120 2016-09-20T13:15:50+00:00

[general]

pls change the Beginner diff to Easy will ya? it's not even "that too easy" diff ya know

[wretched]

i was expecting this diff will be sth crazy to play with jumps, but this isn't what i expected .-. with such an intense song, but i can't find anything that is too intense to play for some reason .-.
00:28:594 (1,2,3) - mute the tails to 5% volume + NC those sliders due to slider speed change
01:11:684 (5,2) - u know what to do. manual stack it, duhh
01:25:866 (1) - 256|192 to make it more symmetrical
01:44:139 (4,1) - well this is kinda weird to play by this small spacing gap .-.
01:57:775 (1,2) - are u sure about this blanket? xd
02:39:366 (4,6) - manual stack + 02:39:639 (6,1) - blanket
02:52:457 (4,1) - ya know, this... "stuff"
02:59:957 (1,2) - low spacing here doesn't make any sense for such an intensity part here. i'd suggest u to move this one more further
03:03:912 (2,1) - are u sure about this xd
03:05:821 (4,5,6) - rather than setting this one like the current one, try sth different like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6138242

[extra]

00:28:594 (1,2,3) - same reason from the highest diff
00:30:366 (4) - 310|175 would blend with 00:30:639 (5) - nicely (if it's not that blend enough, try to adjust it by urself xd)
01:21:775 (1,2,3) - i don't think this "almost even an overlap" will suit with such a spacing like this, unless u move it a bit further
03:04:048 (1,2) - r u sure about this blanket?
03:04:048 (1,3) - try to fix the blankets from above and stack them on (1)'s tail will eventually fixed them
03:05:821 (6,7,8) - same reason from above

GL!

Bergy

352 posts

Joined November 2015

Topic Starter

Bergy 2016-09-21T00:48:15+00:00

lit120 wrote:
[wretched]
i was expecting this diff will be sth crazy to play with jumps, but this isn't what i expected .-. with such an intense song, but i can't find anything that is too intense to play for some reason .-. I think the feel of the song is much more stream-like than jump-like, so I wanted to make it more stream-heavy.
00:28:594 (1,2,3) - mute the tails to 5% volume + NC those sliders due to slider speed change ok
01:11:684 (5,2) - u know what to do. manual stack it, duhh no i don't know tbh, looks fine to me, just looks messy when you manual stack
01:25:866 (1) - 256|192 to make it more symmetrical yep
01:44:139 (4,1) - well this is kinda weird to play by this small spacing gap .-. fixed
01:57:775 (1,2) - are u sure about this blanket? xd fixed a bit
02:39:366 (4,6) - manual stack + 02:39:639 (6,1) - blanket ok
02:52:457 (4,1) - ya know, this... "stuff" yea ok
02:59:957 (1,2) - low spacing here doesn't make any sense for such an intensity part here. i'd suggest u to move this one more further changed sliders
03:03:912 (2,1) - are u sure about this xd could have sworn i changed
03:05:821 (4,5,6) - rather than setting this one like the current one, try sth different like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6138242 yea sure i kinda like that
[extra]
00:28:594 (1,2,3) - same reason from the highest diff
00:30:366 (4) - 310|175 would blend with 00:30:639 (5) - nicely (if it's not that blend enough, try to adjust it by urself xd) went with 311/174
01:21:775 (1,2,3) - i don't think this "almost even an overlap" will suit with such a spacing like this, unless u move it a bit further yea didn't mean for that overlap
03:04:048 (1,2) - r u sure about this blanket? lol nope
03:04:048 (1,3) - try to fix the blankets from above and stack them on (1)'s tail will eventually fixed them yea already did because of ^^^^^
03:05:821 (6,7,8) - same reason from above don't quite understand, looks fine
GL! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

O-Moei

O-Moei 2016-09-22T01:13:07+00:00

Hi !, 🌀NM request
Actually, I should've rejected this request since you didn't type the keyword request at my queue xd but, let me give a try xd (you just lucky i feel for it me guess xd)

✨ = Suggestion (Common opinion. No change, no problem)
💧 = Uuhhh? (Something feels wrong around here...)
💥 = Warning !!! (Yu know wat tu du xD )

Here we go...

General :
✨Insane diff's HP can go to 4,5 or to 5

💧Remove Widescreen Support at all diffs since you have no Storyboard

💥xt-'s Beginner check spacing issues at AIMod Distance Spacing (Ctrl+L.Shift+A)

Normal :
💥Some Irregular spacing problems at AIMod (Ctrl+L.Shift+A)

✨00:25:730 (6) - If I were you, I'd delete the last white dot because there's a beat here 00:25:866 - , and feels so important

✨00:52:321 (5) - NC to adapt with these drum hits

💧Right now, 00:57:230 (5) - more than 1 repeat for Easy and Normal diff is a weird thing. Maybe you'd consider change some pattern before so you can change the repeated slider to 3x1/4 slider like this is much more fitting the eyes of newbies

💧01:11:957 (4,5,6) - You can see a weird flow for newbies here. Try to make another nicer pattern

✨01:38:139 (1) - Remove NC
02:00:230 (1) - ^
03:01:593 (1) - ^
02:55:048 (1) - ^ for continuous combo

✨02:01:866 (3,4) - The weird sound here feels need to be mapped xd. the way you map this part like this 02:08:412 (5) - is much more fitting

💧03:04:048 - Don't ignore this

💧03:04:866 (2) - The stack with 03:05:684 (3) - slider tail ?. Feels weird ;w;

Oke, nice

Wretched :
✨00:11:276 (5,1,2,3,4,1) - Equalize NCing with 00:08:003 (5,1,1,2,1,2) -

✨00:53:344 (2,4) - Ctrl+G them is better imo

✨00:58:866 (5) - NC

✨02:11:548 (8,9) - Since they have a different rhythm, I think you can stack them with 02:11:684 (1) -

✨01:45:503 (3) - NC (Because you NCed these part 00:35:139 (1) - 00:41:685 (1) - )
01:52:048 (3) - ^

✨03:06:366 (6) - NC as a great SV changes

Oke, nice

That's all from me. All e best C:

Bergy

352 posts

Joined November 2015

Topic Starter

Bergy 2016-09-22T19:25:41+00:00

O-Moei wrote:
Hi !, 🌀NM request
Actually, I should've rejected this request since you didn't type the keyword request at my queue xd but, let me give a try xd (you just lucky i feel for it me guess xd) I was using my phone and the spoiler just looked like part of your signature lmAO, thanks anyways my dude (dudette? idk)

✨ = Suggestion (Common opinion. No change, no problem)
💧 = Uuhhh? (Something feels wrong around here...)
💥 = Warning !!! (Yu know wat tu du xD )

Here we go...

General :
✨Insane diff's HP can go to 4,5 or to 5 5

💧Remove Widescreen Support at all diffs since you have no Storyboard Sure

💥xt-'s Beginner check spacing issues at AIMod Distance Spacing (Ctrl+L.Shift+A) Not my diff

Normal :
💥Some Irregular spacing problems at AIMod (Ctrl+L.Shift+A) Fixed most problems, but didn't fix the ones where the spacing difference is literally so infitesimally small that it isn't noticeable when you're playing, or even when you're editing.

✨00:25:730 (6) - If I were you, I'd delete the last white dot because there's a beat here 00:25:866 - , and feels so important Also a beat at 00:26:003 - so I just made a 1/2 repeat slider

✨00:52:321 (5) - NC to adapt with these drum hits Ok

💧Right now, 00:57:230 (5) - more than 1 repeat for Easy and Normal diff is a weird thing. Maybe you'd consider change some pattern before so you can change the repeated slider to 3x1/4 slider like this is much more fitting the eyes of newbies
It's such a hard rhythm to map on a lower diff, just changed it to 2 repeating 3/4 sliders, hopefully that's "readable" for newbies

💧01:11:957 (4,5,6) - You can see a weird flow for newbies here. Try to make another nicer pattern Ctrl+G'd the 6 and moved the 7

✨01:38:139 (1) - Remove NC
02:00:230 (1) - ^
03:01:593 (1) - ^
02:55:048 (1) - ^ for continuous combo Fixed all

✨02:01:866 (3,4) - The weird sound here feels need to be mapped xd. the way you map this part like this 02:08:412 (5) - is much more fitting Ok

💧03:04:048 - Don't ignore this Ok

💧03:04:866 (2) - The stack with 03:05:684 (3) - slider tail ?. Feels weird ;w; But muh ＡＥＳＴＨＥＴＩＣ

Oke, nice

Wretched :
✨00:11:276 (5,1,2,3,4,1) - Equalize NCing with 00:08:003 (5,1,1,2,1,2) - No, they're different on both drums and guitars, and want to emphasize the change with NCs

✨00:53:344 (2,4) - Ctrl+G them is better imo No, I think it is fine

✨00:58:866 (5) - NC Ok

✨02:11:548 (8,9) - Since they have a different rhythm, I think you can stack them with 02:11:684 (1) - Yep, manually stacked

✨01:45:503 (3) - NC (Because you NCed these part 00:35:139 (1) - 00:41:685 (1) - )
01:52:048 (3) - ^ Yep and yep

✨03:06:366 (6) - NC as a great SV changes Ok

Oke, nice

That's all from me. All e best C: Thank you dawg

Zhuriel

146 posts

Joined February 2015

Zhuriel 2016-09-22T20:56:04+00:00

hi there, from my queue. you were request #11 with a priority of 17, this is mod #5

i am way too slow to play this, good thing i'm here for a mod not a playtest

[general]
that timing thing at 00:45:776 - is a bit weird, i'd probably write it as dotted notes in 6/8 time signature (which the entire song should probably also be) but since osu doesn't understand 6/8 or properly understand any compound time signature for that matter this is probably a good solution

also thanks for using better samples than 80% of metal mappers

[wretched]
was gonna make a "es su casa joke" but i had an old version of the map lying around where you already did that

00:17:139 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - you combo the same pattern differently at 00:18:776 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - decide on one variant
00:20:412 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - pretty much the same pattern as 00:19:594 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - but you map it differently, especially the much lower spacing makes no sense
00:34:321 (1,2) - would probably look nicer if you used more similar shapes for these, and all similar patterns for that matter
00:36:776 (5,6) - not a big fan of this overlap, you don't use anything like that elsewhere in the map so it seems out of place
00:50:685 (1,2,3) - space these like 00:48:435 (1,2,3) - or distinguish them more
01:13:048 (3,4,5,6,7) - why not map the drum fill here, you map basically all others
01:18:503 (1,2,3) - looks visually inconsistent since 1 and 2 are really close together and everything else isn't
01:39:775 (1,2) - why is this a separate combo
01:51:230 (1) - looks random and pretty bad
02:01:865 (5) - add a kick slider for the little pinch harmonic? again at 02:08:411 (5) -
02:13:321 (1) - silence the sliders at the end, not in the middle, there's not really anything to map the decrease in sliderslide volume to
02:18:775 (2,3,4,5,6) - i think you forgot to pull your volume back up here
02:33:775 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - you could hitsound these with drum sampleset for toms
02:44:003 (3) - i think that's supposed to be longer
02:55:866 (1,2,3) - looks like these got resnapped to something wrong
03:04:048 (1) - i don't really see a reason for the squiggle in this slider
03:05:821 (4,5,6) - tone the sv increases down a bit or at least nc them for better readability. you don't really use stuff like this as a general theme and definitely not as extreme so it's a bit out of nowhere

[extra]
in general not too fond of the slider shapes in this diff, in particular stuff like 00:51:912 (7) - 01:49:593 (1,2) - 02:37:048 (1) - 02:40:321 (1,2) -

also a few things i mentioned in top diff apply here too but i'm too lazy to write them all down again

00:20:412 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - map this consistently to 00:19:594 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
00:21:230 (1) - i'd use a repeating slider like 00:22:048 (1) - here both for consistency and since this seems a bit weak
00:35:412 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - not a big fan of straight into slightly curved, maybe curve the second half in the other direction and have a bit of a turn into it
01:05:821 (3) - do slider + circle instead here, this long slider doesn't match how you mapped the rest of the pattern
01:13:048 (6,7,8,9,1) - as in top diff, why not map the drumfill
02:12:503 (1,2,3,4) - could maybe make the visual distance between objects more consistent here

[insane]

00:17:685 (6) - this overlap is really inconsistent with the rest of the map, also looks like it was supposed to be a symmetrical pattern but 6 got moved so maybe try that
02:01:593 (3,4,5,6) - the fast triple seems a bit too much since there aren't any comparable patterns in the map so this showing up out of nowhere is kinda dickish
02:47:275 (2) - this slider seems unneccessarily fancy for not mapping to anything special
03:05:548 (1,2,3) - fast triple like the earlier point, either them more consistently or not at all

gonna stop here cause i'm to tired to find much more and i'm bad at modding lower diffs anyway

also there was an update while i was modding so some of the stuff might be outdated now, cba checking though

nice to see some more djenty stuff get mapped though, was feeling lonely

Bergy

352 posts

Joined November 2015

Topic Starter

Bergy 2016-09-23T00:05:43+00:00

forum is trash and made me double post so just editing this one xd

Last edited by Bergy 2016-09-23T00:06:40+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Bergy

352 posts

Joined November 2015

Topic Starter

Bergy 2016-09-23T00:06:14+00:00

Zhuriel wrote:
hi there, from my queue. you were request #11 with a priority of 17, this is mod #5

i am way too slow to play this, good thing i'm here for a mod not a playtest

[general]
that timing thing at 00:45:776 - is a bit weird, i'd probably write it as dotted notes in 6/8 time signature (which the entire song should probably also be) but since osu doesn't understand 6/8 or properly understand any compound time signature for that matter this is probably a good solution It's just like a 2/3 polyrhythm through this whole section, but I think most mappers/players wouldn't understand some of that stuff. For modding and mapping sakes, it's much easier to just 2/3*BPM and map it that way.

also thanks for using better samples than 80% of metal mappers ? didnt think my samples were good

[wretched]
was gonna make a "es su casa joke" but i had an old version of the map lying around where you already did that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
00:17:139 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - you combo the same pattern differently at 00:18:776 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - decide on one variantokk
00:20:412 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - pretty much the same pattern as 00:19:594 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - but you map it differently, especially the much lower spacing makes no sense changed
00:34:321 (1,2) - would probably look nicer if you used more similar shapes for these, and all similar patterns for that matter I mean maybe not all shapes, but for a couple yea
00:36:776 (5,6) - not a big fan of this overlap, you don't use anything like that elsewhere in the map so it seems out of place i feel you
00:50:685 (1,2,3) - space these like 00:48:435 (1,2,3) - or distinguish them more spaced like other ones
01:13:048 (3,4,5,6,7) - why not map the drum fill here, you map basically all others yep
01:18:503 (1,2,3) - looks visually inconsistent since 1 and 2 are really close together and everything else isn't fixed
01:39:775 (1,2) - why is this a separate combo mistake xddddd
01:51:230 (1) - looks random and pretty bad agreed
02:01:865 (5) - add a kick slider for the little pinch harmonic? again at 02:08:411 (5) - cool idea, i think 1/8 would be cool for this
02:13:321 (1) - silence the sliders at the end, not in the middle, there's not really anything to map the decrease in sliderslide volume to yeeee
02:18:775 (2,3,4,5,6) - i think you forgot to pull your volume back up here no defeinitely not /s
02:33:775 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - you could hitsound these with drum sampleset for toms cool idea
02:44:003 (3) - i think that's supposed to be longer Yea i noticed that like an hour ago, just hadn't updated it yet xd
02:55:866 (1,2,3) - looks like these got resnapped to something wrong Same ^
03:04:048 (1) - i don't really see a reason for the squiggle in this slider tru
03:05:821 (4,5,6) - tone the sv increases down a bit or at least nc them for better readability. you don't really use stuff like this as a general theme and definitely not as extreme so it's a bit out of nowhere NC'ed them
[extra]
in general not too fond of the slider shapes in this diff, in particular stuff like 00:51:912 (7) - Think this one fits the little whammy thing the guitar is doing 01:49:593 (1,2) - yea wtf was i doing 02:37:048 (1) - boi u talkin shit bout my anchor point curve sliders02:40:321 (1,2) - yea sure this one is kinda wack

also a few things i mentioned in top diff apply here too but i'm too lazy to write them all down again
00:20:412 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - map this consistently to 00:19:594 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ye
00:21:230 (1) - i'd use a repeating slider like 00:22:048 (1) - here both for consistency and since this seems a bit weak yea
00:35:412 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - not a big fan of straight into slightly curved, maybe curve the second half in the other direction and have a bit of a turn into it same
01:05:821 (3) - do slider + circle instead here, this long slider doesn't match how you mapped the rest of the pattern tru
01:13:048 (6,7,8,9,1) - as in top diff, why not map the drumfill cause im dum xd
02:12:503 (1,2,3,4) - could maybe make the visual distance between objects more consistent here dude yea
[insane]
00:17:685 (6) - this overlap is really inconsistent with the rest of the map, also looks like it was supposed to be a symmetrical pattern but 6 got moved so maybe try that yea i think 6 got moved on accident
02:01:593 (3,4,5,6) - the fast triple seems a bit too much since there aren't any comparable patterns in the map so this showing up out of nowhere is kinda dickish yea didnt really like that
02:47:275 (2) - this slider seems unneccessarily fancy for not mapping to anything special yea wtf am i doing
03:05:548 (1,2,3) - fast triple like the earlier point, either them more consistently or not at all tru
gonna stop here cause i'm to tired to find much more and i'm bad at modding lower diffs anyway dude same

also there was an update while i was modding so some of the stuff might be outdated now, cba checking though yea no biggie, only like 2 things were outdated

nice to see some more djenty stuff get mapped though, was feeling lonely holla, i was playing ur maps when i first started osu, stuff like animals as leaders and periphery; not enough of this stuff in the game. not like this is veil of maya's djentiest/most progressive song, because it definitely isn't, but you don't see much stuff like this in the game

Zhuriel

146 posts

Joined February 2015

Zhuriel 2016-09-25T00:08:31+00:00

Bergy wrote:
that timing thing at 00:45:776 - is a bit weird, i'd probably write it as dotted notes in 6/8 time signature (which the entire song should probably also be) but since osu doesn't understand 6/8 or properly understand any compound time signature for that matter this is probably a good solution It's just like a 2/3 polyrhythm through this whole section, but I think most mappers/players wouldn't understand some of that stuff. For modding and mapping sakes, it's much easier to just 2/3*BPM and map it that way.

that's what i was saying, 2:3 polyrhythm and dotted notes are exactly the same thing only no one writes 2:3 polyrhythms cause dotted notes are easier to write

also thanks for using better samples than 80% of metal mappers ? didnt think my samples were good

good in the sense that they fit the song (which is really the only thing that's important) and don't overpower everything, a lot of metal maps use that terrible flabby overpowering bass drum sample (hi mazzerin) that just makes me want to cry

they're also pretty similar to the stuff i like to use so yeah

00:34:321 (1,2) - would probably look nicer if you used more similar shapes for these, and all similar patterns for that matter I mean maybe not all shapes, but for a couple yea

just for clarification, i meant making the sliders within each group of 2 like that similar to each other (or in some other way relate/interact), not necessarily making the groups similar to each other

Hand

35 posts

Joined February 2016

Hand 2016-11-09T08:04:58+00:00

dude love this song and map hope it gets ranked

Bergy

352 posts

Joined November 2015

Topic Starter

Bergy 2016-11-09T12:28:25+00:00

PlotTwisted wrote:
dude love this song and map hope it gets ranked

Oops this map is gravearded af tbh, just made a few quick changes that I should have made before the other day

Dilectus

1,727 posts

Joined April 2014

Dilectus 2017-01-03T19:42:39+00:00

yeah this is fun

puxtu

2,926 posts

Joined August 2013

puxtu 2017-01-07T04:14:11+00:00

Imagine if this song is the new opening song for SNK season 2. That would be really sick haha.

MikasaSerket

520 posts

Joined December 2014

MikasaSerket 2017-01-07T06:36:03+00:00

puxtu wrote:
Imagine if this song is the new opening song for SNK season 2. That would be really sick haha.

oh shit true

Est-

368 posts

Joined March 2016

Est- 2017-01-12T23:33:51+00:00

puxtu wrote:
Imagine if this song is the new opening song for SNK season 2. That would be really sick haha.

o boi

Dilectus

1,727 posts

Joined April 2014

Dilectus 2017-01-13T16:22:07+00:00

aaand finished product. ill do hitsounds later

Align the stones... to the beat!

DAVIDED'S INSANE (4.93*)

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Dilectus

1,727 posts

Joined April 2014

Dilectus 2017-01-14T20:20:34+00:00

finished hitsounding

also id suggest using white text with black/red drop shadow for the storyboard to make it more visable

click here!

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: Mikasa.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 26954
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.3
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
EpilepsyWarning: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 100658
DistanceSpacing: 0.9
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 3.999998

[Metadata]
Title:Mikasa
TitleUnicode:Mikasa
Artist:Veil Of Maya
ArtistUnicode:Veil Of Maya
Creator:Bergy
Version:DavidEd's Insane
Source:
Tags:matriarch progressive metal deathcore djent xt-
BeatmapID:1178296
BeatmapSetID:480298

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:7
ApproachRate:9.2
SliderMultiplier:1.6
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"Mikasa.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
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//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
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Seni

713 posts

Joined August 2014

Seni 2017-02-14T22:51:24+00:00

progressive metal deathcore

Roksuu-

6 posts

Joined April 2014

Roksuu- 2017-02-20T16:16:52+00:00

I just gotta say, I've been playing this map for so long now, mainly as warm up. I have seen this map progressing over the period of time, that I feel attached to it.

Love it!

Bergy

352 posts

Joined November 2015

Topic Starter

Bergy 2017-02-20T17:01:26+00:00

Roksuu- wrote:
I just gotta say, I've been playing this map for so long now, mainly as warm up. I have seen this map progressing over the period of time, that I feel attached to it.

Love it!

thanks dad

Bergy

352 posts

Joined November 2015

Topic Starter

Bergy 2017-03-01T23:46:38+00:00

o yea at this point any mods are on completely new maps of every diff so more kds and stuff so on and so on

dkingo

550 posts

Joined June 2016

dkingo 2017-03-03T14:19:41+00:00

Hey there, a rough mod~ This map is out of my ability, so just some suggestiongs.

[General]

I'm not sure about that but you may have to add an EZ or NM mania diff
AiMod: File missing:sb\White.jpg
In HD there's sometimes 1 note for the kick sometimes 2, pleace unify them.

No kudos.

Good luck with your map

Bergy

352 posts

Joined November 2015

Topic Starter

Bergy 2017-03-03T14:23:01+00:00

dkingo wrote:
Hey there, a rough mod~ This map is out of my ability, so just some suggestiongs.

[General]
I'm not sure about that but you may have to add an EZ or NM mania diff nah u dont im 100% sure
AiMod: File missing:sb\White.jpg yep fixed i just haven't updated yet and i'll probably delete SB anyways
In HD there's sometimes 1 note for the kick sometimes 2, pleace unify them. i'll leave that up to my boi puxtu cause i dont map mania xd
No kudos.

Good luck with your map thank dud

Est-

368 posts

Joined March 2016

Est- 2017-03-03T19:04:15+00:00

[easy]
00:15:567 (2,3) - this triggers me thanks http://puu.sh/uHkBc/960875d16f.jpg
00:17:204 (4,1) - fix blanket thanks
00:19:658 (3,4) - fix blanket thanks
01:19:385 (2,3) - fix blanket thanks
01:44:749 (1) - make a better wave here smh u disappoint mamene

[mika's normal]
01:38:612 (2,3) - this triggers me thanks https://puu.sh/uHkrY/b4be493173.jpg

[seni's hard]
orgasmic diff

[insane]
isn't SL 3 a bit too low? the map is only 4 stars and it caught me off guard at first.
sick diff tho

[DavidEd'S insane]
orgasmic diff
those sliderslides omg

memes

[Extra]
00:15:567 (1,2) - fix blanket thanks

i cant mod why are you doing this to me

1|2|3|4

[HD]
00:00:499 (499|2) - why no doubles after the ln's? those kicks are pretty intense
00:27:022 - add one on 2?
00:27:294 - add one on 2?
00:27:567 - add one on 2?
00:55:453 - add one on 3?
02:00:158 (120158|3) - move to 1?

[MX]
00:27:022 - add one on 3?
00:27:294 - add one on 3?
00:27:567 - add one on 3?
00:55:453 - add one on 3?
01:04:181 (64181|1) - move to 4
01:04:249 (64249|1) - move to 2 or 1
02:00:158 (120158|0) - maybe move to 4 to fit the hd diff? (if you did the change ofc)

puxtu i swear your diffs are always so clan i cant mod them sbdkasefmdsfdA asdASDFcdsal

Last edited by Est- 2017-03-13T20:22:52+00:00, edited 8 times in total.

MikasaSerket

520 posts

Joined December 2014

MikasaSerket 2017-03-12T06:27:32+00:00

asdfhasldjkflhaskdjfhaskdjfhkajsdfkjhad akjsdf asdfjagdsf jhasdfajs dfhl mika's normal

the hitsounds are probably wrong because i copied them down whoosp

sorry 44 holdong ju pth e ntma[pset

Bergy

352 posts

Joined November 2015

Topic Starter

Bergy 2017-03-12T13:32:21+00:00

MikasaSerket wrote:
asdfhasldjkflhaskdjfhaskdjfhkajsdfkjhad akjsdf asdfjagdsf jhasdfajs dfhl mika's normal

the hitsounds are probably wrong because i copied them down whoosp

sorry 44 holdong ju pth e ntma[pset

holy h y p e

ye i got it and i copied hitsounds from another diff cause they were all weird

and i changed the spinner so it ended on the red tick not the white tick

thats it tho xd holy thank

Bergy

352 posts

Joined November 2015

Topic Starter

Bergy 2017-03-13T20:56:05+00:00

SPOILER

Est- wrote:
[easy]
00:15:567 (2,3) - this triggers me thanks http://puu.sh/uHkBc/960875d16f.jpg
00:17:204 (4,1) - fix blanket thanks
00:19:658 (3,4) - fix blanket thanks dude i cant even really blanket these smh
01:19:385 (2,3) - fix blanket thanks
01:44:749 (1) - make a better wave here smh u disappoint mamene mamene tu es sucer mon que ! 1

[mika's normal]
01:38:612 (2,3) - this triggers me thanks https://puu.sh/uHkrY/b4be493173.jpg i did something idk if it fix

[seni's hard]
orgasmic diff

[insane]
isn't SL 3 a bit too low? the map is only 4 stars and it caught me off guard at first. fixed
sick diff tho thank

[DavidEd'S insane]
orgasmic diff
those sliderslides omg
memes

[Extra]
00:15:567 (1,2) - fix blanket thanks dude come on what how do u even find this

i cant mod why are you doing this to me
luv u dad
puxtu i swear your diffs are always so clan i cant mod them sbdkasefmdsfdA asdASDFcdsal
tru

-Mo-

Nomination Assessment Team

953 posts

Joined December 2012

-Mo- 2017-03-14T15:14:25+00:00

I can deal with this.

General
- Unused files:
sb\particle.png
sb\sq.png
sb\text\_01a.png
sb\text\_01b.png
sb\text\_01c.png
normal-hitfinish-old1.wav

normal-hitfinish seems to have too much delay.

d

Storyboard
- 00:27:840 - 01:44:749 - Are the lyrics supposed to overlap so much here?

Easy
- 00:51:976 (2) - 01:08:749 (1) - 01:36:567 (3) - Healthbar.
- 01:19:385 (2) - This seems to be the only place where this sort of overlap is present, and it looks out of place an unpleasant to me, so I would avoid it if possible.
- 01:38:203 (1) - This could be blanketed over 4 better if you care about that.
- 01:44:749 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - This section has more intense drums, so it doesn't make sense that the rhythm density has gone down here.

Mika's Normal
- 00:29:476 (1,2) - Inconsistent spacing.
- 00:55:658 (1) - A double reverse slider that is this short may be difficult for newer players to read since there's little time to read the second reverse. Reducing by one and adding a circle is acceptable to me.
- 01:40:658 (5) - Healthbar.

Seni's Hard seems clean.

Insane
- 00:02:749 (4,5) - It doesn't make sense to increase the spacing here yet given that stronger beats like 00:02:476 (3) aren't emphasised either.
- 00:24:976 (2) - Maybe rotate this a little more so that it points into 3 a little better?
- 00:32:340 (5) - This goes offscreen in 4:3.
- 00:48:294 - 00:54:840 - It would be better if these blue tick beats weren't missed. Maybe try a rhythm like this?

e

- 01:50:476 - Why not use 1/4 rhythms for this part too? Since you already started doing it in the previous combo.

DavidEd's Insane
- 01:53:749 (3,4) - I'm wondering if breaking circular flow here is necessary? I don't feel the sound on 4 needs that kind of emphasis personally.

Extra
- 00:10:658 (5,1) - I would try to point the slider directly into the start of the stream so the implied flow is easier to follow.
- 00:37:658 (1) - I would personally space this further from 5 for better emphasis via spacing.
- 01:28:112 (6) - 01:54:567 (1) - Offscreen.

Expert
- 00:05:749 (1,2,3) - Having all of these in a straight line doesn't feel like it's giving emphasis to any of the notes pattern wise.
- 00:17:885 (9,1) - Maybe make this spacing similar to the jump pattern in the previous combo? I don't feel the spacing needs to drop this much.
- 00:18:567 (5,6,1,2) - This sort of flow seems very uncomfortable and unsuitable because of all of the wide angles. You can change this how you want, but my suggestion would be something like this:

e

- 00:20:613 (2,3) - I don't think this sort of entry angle into the stream really works in my opinion since it seems uncomfortable an unintuitive. I would try to make it so you're jumping straight into the path of the slider as you exit 2 if possible rather than into the side.
- 00:57:295 (1) - The blanket part of this slider could be improved I think, it's very noticably rough. Using more white nodes could help with a smoother curve.
- 00:58:931 (6) - Not sure if this is intentionally off stack, but I would either make it consistent or offset it even more.
- 01:03:294 (3) - Maybe space this further from 2 for better emphasis?
- 01:14:340 (4) - Maybe nudge this to the left a little bit so the visual flow from 3-4 is a little neater.
- 01:14:476 (1) - This could be a blanket over 2 if you wanted.
- 01:34:112 (5) - Similar thing as before, move it down for better visual flow.

- 00:24:976 (3) - 00:25:794 (3) - Maybe make it so the spacing emphasis is on this note for the vocals? Since the drums sound the same to me here.
- 01:05:339 (6) - Maybe Ctrl+G so it's a little smoother going into the stream?
- 01:16:931 (1,2,3) - I would try to make this spacing less contrasting since these sounds have similar emphasis to me.
- 01:21:703 (5) - Maybe move this to the left a bit so the angle is better for jumping into the 1?
- 01:51:294 (1,2,3) - This wide angle flow seems inconsistent with how you've mapped these sounds so far. I would try to use sharper angles for consistency.

Good luck.

Dilectus

1,727 posts

Joined April 2014

Dilectus 2017-03-14T15:51:57+00:00

-Mo- wrote:
- 01:53:749 (3,4) - I'm wondering if breaking circular flow here is necessary? I don't feel the sound on 4 needs that kind of emphasis personally. will do

thanks mo! love ur videos

changes

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: Mikasa.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 91521
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.3
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
EpilepsyWarning: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 100658
DistanceSpacing: 0.9
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 3.999998

[Metadata]
Title:Mikasa
TitleUnicode:Mikasa
Artist:Veil Of Maya
ArtistUnicode:Veil Of Maya
Creator:Bergy
Version:DavidEd's Insane
Source:
Tags:matriarch progressive metal deathcore djent davided mikasaserket puxtu seni
BeatmapID:1215683
BeatmapSetID:480298

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:7
ApproachRate:9.2
SliderMultiplier:1.6
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Bergy

352 posts

Joined November 2015

Topic Starter

Bergy 2017-03-14T16:33:45+00:00

SPOILER

-Mo- wrote:
I can deal with this.

General
- Unused files:
sb\particle.png
sb\sq.png
sb\text\_01a.png
sb\text\_01b.png
sb\text\_01c.png
normal-hitfinish-old1.wav

normal-hitfinish seems to have too much delay. fixxd
d

Storyboard
- 00:27:840 - 01:44:749 - Are the lyrics supposed to overlap so much here?

yep um the storyboards going away so

Easy
- 00:51:976 (2) - 01:08:749 (1) - 01:36:567 (3) - Healthbar. fixx
- 01:19:385 (2) - This seems to be the only place where this sort of overlap is present, and it looks out of place an unpleasant to me, so I would avoid it if possible. yea fixed
- 01:38:203 (1) - This could be blanketed over 4 better if you care about that. i dont think i was trying to but i will
- 01:44:749 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - This section has more intense drums, so it doesn't make sense that the rhythm density has gone down here. idk i've always thought of this section as lower intensity than all the other sections. the drums do switch beats but it also goes to the hi-hat and is a little quieter. idk it just never really felt fitting to make this more intense to me

Seni's Hard seems clean. owo seni ur so hot

Insane
- 00:02:749 (4,5) - It doesn't make sense to increase the spacing here yet given that stronger beats like 00:02:476 (3) aren't emphasised either. yea tru
- 00:24:976 (2) - Maybe rotate this a little more so that it points into 3 a little better? owo yeah
- 00:32:340 (5) - This goes offscreen in 4:3. uh oh!
- 00:48:294 - 00:54:840 - It would be better if these blue tick beats weren't missed. Maybe try a rhythm like this?
e
sure !
- 01:50:476 - Why not use 1/4 rhythms for this part too? Since you already started doing it in the previous combo. cause it goes to 1/3 lul

Extra
- 00:10:658 (5,1) - I would try to point the slider directly into the start of the stream so the implied flow is easier to follow. sure
- 00:37:658 (1) - I would personally space this further from 5 for better emphasis via spacing. donee
- 01:28:112 (6) - 01:54:567 (1) - Offscreen. shh now its not

Expert
- 00:05:749 (1,2,3) - Having all of these in a straight line doesn't feel like it's giving emphasis to any of the notes pattern wise. ye i reworked some stuff right here
- 00:17:885 (9,1) - Maybe make this spacing similar to the jump pattern in the previous combo? I don't feel the spacing needs to drop this much. reworked stuff
- 00:18:567 (5,6,1,2) - This sort of flow seems very uncomfortable and unsuitable because of all of the wide angles. You can change this how you want, but my suggestion would be something like this:
e
already fixed with ^
- 00:20:613 (2,3) - I don't think this sort of entry angle into the stream really works in my opinion since it seems uncomfortable an unintuitive. I would try to make it so you're jumping straight into the path of the slider as you exit 2 if possible rather than into the side. made the sliders sideways instead
- 00:57:295 (1) - The blanket part of this slider could be improved I think, it's very noticably rough. Using more white nodes could help with a smoother curve. ill try xd
- 00:58:931 (6) - Not sure if this is intentionally off stack, but I would either make it consistent or offset it even more. dude idek i didnt even change the stream from when i made it its just doodoo so it looks off but i fixed it now
- 01:03:294 (3) - Maybe space this further from 2 for better emphasis? sure
- 01:14:340 (4) - Maybe nudge this to the left a little bit so the visual flow from 3-4 is a little neater. absolutely
- 01:14:476 (1) - This could be a blanket over 2 if you wanted. sure
- 01:34:112 (5) - Similar thing as before, move it down for better visual flow. boi my mapping 8 months ago was k_hand:

bergy was here but mo's diff name wasn't
- 00:24:976 (3) - 00:25:794 (3) - Maybe make it so the spacing emphasis is on this note for the vocals? Since the drums sound the same to me here. yea sure
- 01:05:339 (6) - Maybe Ctrl+G so it's a little smoother going into the stream? eh i think its fine, + it would break the back and forth pattern from before
- 01:16:931 (1,2,3) - I would try to make this spacing less contrasting since these sounds have similar emphasis to me. yea !
- 01:21:703 (5) - Maybe move this to the left a bit so the angle is better for jumping into the 1? yea !
- 01:51:294 (1,2,3) - This wide angle flow seems inconsistent with how you've mapped these sounds so far. I would try to use sharper angles for consistency. yes

Good luck.

owo thanks for being first ever mod on this brand spankin new map thank dad

updated everything

and rip sb xd

BOUYAAA

396 posts

Joined July 2010

BOUYAAA 2017-03-14T22:35:39+00:00

how can u mania players put a HD label on this d u d e

00:00:022 - timing point here makes more sense
I think triangle hitsounds are pretty unfitting rn , especially int he part you spam them, gettign a cymbal sound or somethign that fits the songs arrangement would be better imo

ez :

Reading hazard : 00:07:385 (4,1) - if both objects are on the screen on the same time you better avoid this kind of inverse movement. I can guarantee you beginners are gonna mistake that sliderend for a sliderhead

00:21:294 (1,3) - https://puu.sh/uJ0jv/e97b04c141.jpg idk symmetry

00:25:385 (2,3,4) - you're hiding part of that reverse arrow, using a stack and you're not making it obvious for the player where to really click. Big reading hazard imo

00:52:385 (3,1) - for aesthetics i'd make it so these not touch. This kind of stands out because the rest of your map is overall well structured and spaced

Normal :

Are you mapping an easy or a normal? Raise AR to 5.
https://puu.sh/uJ1uz/9cd9f87c10.png

00:06:567 (1,1) - Both objects appear on screen when 00:06:567 (1) - repeats for the second time. I wouldn't expect players this level to be able to read that. 00:13:113 (4) - This one is slightly less of a problem as it doesn't almost directly point towards the next object

00:17:204 (5,1) - yea hard to be more misleading for a normal eeeeetc Basically everything that repeats more than once

00:29:476 (1,2,3) - Seems like there is a little spacing mistake

01:23:476 (1,2) - http://puu.sh/uJ1FV/9e22ec4ce8.jpg for actual correct rythm

01:37:385 (1) - nc is inconsistent with your first kiai and tbh lone ncs like that are pretty pointless

01:51:294 (1,2) - do you really have to break flow like that for the sake of aesthetics?

Hard :

00:33:840 (2,3,4) - Kick hitsounds sound quiet compared to 00:32:204 (2,3) - which is pretty much the same thing. I'd suggest you raise volume on kicks only so that it matches the previous ones without raising snare volume too much.
00:40:113 (1) - OIhg and here you probably wanna go down in volume then?

00:44:817 (6,7) - you're introducing 1/1 stacks now even though you did 1/2 in the whole chorus and here and just before 00:43:385 (3,4) -. Probably a better idea to map these first ones a different way so that player is able to get used to rythm. 00:46:658 (3,4,5,6) - yea would not micx them like that
http://puu.sh/uJ2vG/4cf39c1307.png apparently this is a rc guideline too

insane :

00:02:885 (5,6,1) - when doing spacing changes would be cool if the important stuff had the big spacing

Davided :

I wish you would make the drum intesive part a bit harder. Right now it plays really easy but you map baby stuff although it goes really crazy in the music 01:02:203 -

01:46:112 (6,7,1) - this https://puu.sh/uJ3o4/54f80d0ab5.jpg makes more sense to what you have now because downbeat is stronger so it would deserve more emphasis

Extra seemed good.

Gonna avoid the rest because i wanna sleep
I apologize for the milion typos but i'm not gonna go over what i've written so if something doesn't make sense ask me

Nice map and awesome song choice
Gl!

Bergy

352 posts

Joined November 2015

Topic Starter

Bergy 2017-03-14T22:56:33+00:00

BOUYAAA wrote:
how can u mania players put a HD label on this d u d e

00:00:022 - timing point here makes more sense tru i think i had that from like 8 months ago cause i couldn't figure out how to map lmao
I think triangle hitsounds are pretty unfitting rn , especially int he part you spam them, gettign a cymbal sound or somethign that fits the songs arrangement would be better imo it was supposed to be a ride bell but ok

ez :

Reading hazard : 00:07:385 (4,1) - if both objects are on the screen on the same time you better avoid this kind of inverse movement. I can guarantee you beginners are gonna mistake that sliderend for a sliderhead yeet

00:21:294 (1,3) - https://puu.sh/uJ0jv/e97b04c141.jpg idk symmetry same

00:25:385 (2,3,4) - you're hiding part of that reverse arrow, using a stack and you're not making it obvious for the player where to really click. Big reading hazard imo fixed

00:52:385 (3,1) - for aesthetics i'd make it so these not touch. This kind of stands out because the rest of your map is overall well structured and spaced o heck

insane :

00:02:885 (5,6,1) - when doing spacing changes would be cool if the important stuff had the big spacing fixed xd

Extra seemed good.

thank

Gonna avoid the rest because i wanna sleep good night famalam
I apologize for the milion typos but i'm not gonna go over what i've written so if something doesn't make sense ask me
ye love u thank for the mod

Nice map and awesome song choice same tbh
Gl!

Dilectus

1,727 posts

Joined April 2014

Dilectus 2017-03-14T23:38:17+00:00

BOUYAAA wrote:
I wish you would make the drum intesive part a bit harder. Right now it plays really easy but you map baby stuff although it goes really crazy in the music 01:02:203 - dont want to make the note density too high in an insane cause 220 bursts may be too much

01:46:112 (6,7,1) - this https://puu.sh/uJ3o4/54f80d0ab5.jpg makes more sense to what you have now because downbeat is stronger so it would deserve more emphasis makes sense

thanks!

fixes

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Seni

713 posts

Joined August 2014

Seni 2017-03-15T13:22:53+00:00

BOUYAAA wrote:
Hard :

00:33:840 (2,3,4) - Kick hitsounds sound quiet compared to 00:32:204 (2,3) - which is pretty much the same thing. I'd suggest you raise volume on kicks only so that it matches the previous ones without raising snare volume too much.
00:40:113 (1) - OIhg and here you probably wanna go down in volume then? I copied hitsounds so I really couldn't care less about 20% volume difference. if bergy wants to change it it's up to him

00:44:817 (6,7) - you're introducing 1/1 stacks now even though you did 1/2 in the whole chorus and here and just before 00:43:385 (3,4) -. Probably a better idea to map these first ones a different way so that player is able to get used to rythm. 00:46:658 (3,4,5,6) - yea would not micx them like that
http://puu.sh/uJ2vG/4cf39c1307.png apparently this is a rc guideline too There are literally no 1/1 stacks what are you talking about

BOUYAAA

396 posts

Joined July 2010

BOUYAAA 2017-03-15T17:09:14+00:00

Seni wrote:
BOUYAAA wrote:
Hard :

00:44:817 (6,7) - you're introducing 1/1 stacks now even though you did 1/2 in the whole chorus and here and just before 00:43:385 (3,4) -. Probably a better idea to map these first ones a different way so that player is able to get used to rythm. 00:46:658 (3,4,5,6) - yea would not micx them like that
http://puu.sh/uJ2vG/4cf39c1307.png apparently this is a rc guideline too There are literally no 1/1 stacks what are you talking about
yea i realised that after posting lul it's just bpm being like twice as slow or something. Good to know i'm somewhat retarded. my point still stands though 1/1 and 1/2 are relative to bpm so it would make sense to differentiate for the sake of readability

Wanted to clear things up just in case

puxtu

2,926 posts

Joined August 2013

puxtu 2017-03-16T12:28:48+00:00

Est- wrote:
1|2|3|4

[HD]
00:00:499 (499|2) - why no doubles after the ln's? those kicks are pretty intense bcs it's 1/4 stream in 220bpm ;w;
00:27:022 - add one on 2? npt gonna follow a vocal sound here
00:27:294 - add one on 2?
00:27:567 - add one on 2?
00:55:453 - add one on 3? there's no actual beat
02:00:158 (120158|3) - move to 1? sure

[MX]
00:27:022 - add one on 3? same as HD
00:27:294 - add one on 3?
00:27:567 - add one on 3?
00:55:453 - add one on 3? d
01:04:181 (64181|1) - move to 4 done
01:04:249 (64249|1) - move to 2 or 1 done
02:00:158 (120158|0) - maybe move to 4 to fit the hd diff? (if you did the change ofc) arite

puxtu i swear your diffs are always so clan i cant mod them sbdkasefmdsfdA asdASDFcdsal

HD is officially finished now http://puu.sh/uLqBK/7d28966dba.rar

Kroytz

703 posts

Joined February 2013

Kroytz 2017-03-18T21:43:34+00:00

sorry this took so long but thank you for waiting ><;;

General:

Is it possible so that the lyrics don't overlap against each other? Makes it hard to read. For these sections at least
00:27:840 -
00:51:363 -
01:44:749 - maybe

Insane

00:05:749 (4) - Not too fond of this undermap since there are clickable beats that dont get clicked, looking at previous measures' rhythm would be more consistent. If you wanted to follow vocals then 00:02:476 (3) - would also be a repeat slider and here too 00:09:840 (1) - so I'd advise against the repeats really, same thing happens 00:12:294 (4) -

00:06:567 (1) - slider isn't perfectly centered angled, not sure if this is what you wanted to go for

00:13:113 (1) - Since this is the ending measure of the phrase it'd probably be best to make this stronger? undermapping the strongest measure seems backwards. A rhythm like this sounds pretty good (if you dont want to do all the 1/4 streams):
(ex) http://puu.sh/uOZ2c/4026bbdd68.jpg

00:28:931 - How come not hitting these? It sounds better when theyre hit tbh like how you have it in this measure 00:31:931 (3,4,5,6) - except without the repeats

01:17:749 (4,5) - maybe split these up into more 1/2 sliders. the first 1/2 would make more sense with the music and the other would just be for consistency but you could also do circles I guess. just the first downbeat better as 1/2. I know you try to follow longer vocal but that really strong red tick is hard to miss

01:21:021 (1) - same thing

01:21:840 (1) - These make more sense as 1/1 since there's no 1/2 growl to make the 1/1s stand out, so this is okay even if it misses the red

I like how this one is mapped

DavidEd

00:05:340 (3,4,5) - Wouldve been cool to see a design something like this http://puu.sh/uP03V/40479ccca1.jpg

00:22:113 (4) - Might be better to use a NC on this since it follows something new in the song. And then you can remove NC from 00:22:931 (3) -
00:25:385 (1) - Maybe also remove NC
00:52:385 (1) - NC

00:53:408 (5) - usually on similar combos I think it's favorable to have all the sliders shapes be similar to one way or another so maybe this could be another angular or linear slider instead of curved, similar to how you treat all your other sliders such as 00:54:635 (3,4,5) - and 00:46:044 (2,3,5) -

01:03:840 (1) - awkward repeat slider, more powerful music needs more clickable objects

01:07:112 (1) - same thing

01:07:794 (3,4) - overlap hinders motion which is strong in this section, I'd advise a different location but probably best to fix the repeat slider first before dictating this

01:35:340 (2) - Kind of an odd shape slider, since you don't really use this odd ones, they stick out like a sore thumb. Not really needing to change but it is noticeable when you come across this, strange.

01:41:203 (7) - Could be stronger if placed elsewhere.

01:43:112 (1,2) - I really don't like how this is the same as 01:41:476 (1,2) -

01:52:521 (5) - maybe curve instead

01:52:931 (1,2) - This is also too similar to what I mentioned before.. it becomes really repetitive :c
your other sliders also resemble the previous chorus section with design but the (1,2) sticks out to me more. It's not bad to have it resemble maybe that closely but it'd be more creative to try different 1/1 slider designs to capture the music

Extra

00:09:704 (5) - this could be spaced out more

00:13:113 (1,2,3,4) - Try not to stick these... the 1/2 claps are so strong is begs to have higher spacing

00:15:567 (1,2,3) - I like how these help follow the vocals but then 00:17:204 (1,2,3) - doesn't. I think it still matches the guitar but theyre not treated exactly the same since they don't have the same support. Besides, the transition from 00:16:931 (3,1) - isn't very strong and as a personal bias, I don't really like how there's so many objects cluttered around a single space.

00:32:340 (1) - It's not needed to NC these since they dont add any real impact, theyre collectively the same rolls.
00:38:885 (1) - same ^

00:48:090 (4,5,6) - This could be like a triangle 120 degree motion thingy. or maybe use the 3rd slider to be a linear slider in the center of the first two

00:58:522 (2,3,4,5,6) - blanket??? ;_; could space (3,4,5,6,) away from the blanket so the Stacking doesn't mess with the visual.

01:09:294 (3) - Don't really like how this is in the middle of your next design but dont think it can be really helped much if you wanted to keep this as a slider. circles can make it visually more attractive to the next measure who knows

01:11:204 (4) - remove NC
01:11:476 (1) - optional add NC
01:21:021 (1) - remove NC
01:24:294 (3) - optional add NC

01:32:612 (5,1) - ugh this looks so weird together...

01:36:158 (1) - remove NC
01:42:703 (1) - I mean, honestly they don't even look stylish or anything lol it really just serves no purpose

01:44:340 (1) - at least this could be fitting but the relationship the objects have make the NC not needed here.

01:44:749 (1,2) - I think since the music picks up here it'd be best not to undermap so heavily with the 1/1s but it's kept consistent throughout here so I mean, you probably wouldn't change all of them but yeah, more instruments = more objects usually.

01:51:294 (1) - It tones down here so the 1/1s become more fitting for this section.

01:54:567 (1) - Possibly offscreen

01:55:794 (1) - zz

01:58:658 (1) - I guess this is kind of creative but there aren't any lasting vocals or instruments that make this slider accurate to the song I feel. As im sure youre aware it ends on the downbeat (or the white tick before it) which you have that kink in the slider for but it feels really weak...

Expert

00:13:113 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - ooh i really like these

00:21:022 (7) - maybe NC to show separation of DS

00:25:385 (1,2) - spacing is tooooo close D:

00:28:113 (2,3) - and here too D:

00:29:067 (7,8) - possibly these as well. it's because it's kiai time and it'd be stronger but the relationships feel weaker than the lyrical parts.

00:29:749 (2,3) - same thing... at this point I think it's a stylistic gimmicky thing so I can't point them all out but I think it's not a strong gimmick to apply here

00:32:340 (1) - I won't point out these anymore either too but the NC's aren't needed for any of these triple drum rolls.

00:33:839 (5) - NC for DS change

00:40:385 (5) - This should also have a DS change to keep consistent with your other streams. Not really needed since its the last stream of the measure but you could try it idk. whatever looks better to you, im only looking at consistency for this xP

00:40:931 (13) - possibly NC

00:50:341 (7) - blegh slider. sticks out waay too much for a vocal that doesn't sound much different than the rest

01:02:476 (1,2) - might be stronger to use non repeating kicks for these but it might be too immediate so 1/4 repeatings are okay but feels more powerful without the repeats >>

01:23:339 (5,1,2) - eh linear flow here is so awkward. (5) would have to be repositioned some where else maybe 59;236

01:34:249 (6) - ew this is really unsettling lol. at least not make it a 1:1 overlap but still just making something else anywhere would be better >>;;

01:35:340 (2) - spacing doesn't capture the intensity and the overlaps are also a bit strange here. doesn't get the opportunity to blanket either so I just think an alternative design altogether would be better.

01:36:567 (1,2) - one of these should be equal with the other :<
01:41:476 (1,2) - same...

01:44:340 (7) - NC

01:45:703 (6) - kinda undermapped here, music picks up, don't need 1/1 slider
01:47:340 (6) - same

01:49:930 (5) - NC

Wretched

00:00:022 (1,2) - so hard to start the map off.....

00:01:385 (6,7,1) - spacing is overdone here... literally only two instruments being played right as the song is starting so its like bad overdone not good overdone x-x

00:04:794 (5,1) - flow is not very well received here. copy pasting the (4) slider to 334;334 could be an option (it has an ugly overlap tho) but just as an idea of how to continue for better flow

00:06:976 (3,5) - so yeah, it'd have this problem of overlap. maybe having (5) slider as a linear slider between the two angled sliders could create better structure.

00:09:567 (4) - should also be two circles to be rhythmically paired with 00:08:749 (4,5) - for the vocals since they get introduced you could do back and forth overlaps if you decide to use circles

00:17:476 (3,4,5,6) - there's really awkward flow here and the spacing changes too much... the trapezoid shape isn't very shapely either

00:25:658 (2,3,4,5) - the spacing couldve been better if the (2) was in the center of the objects but since it's not, it throws off the spacing really.

00:28:522 (4,5) - I get the drum clap but does it have to be this spaced? The song is not super strong for these kiai moments

00:31:522 (2,1) - this feels better spaced for the drum claps, it kinda looks more natural really

00:32:340 (1) - same NC things as before

00:43:385 (3) - NC

00:48:090 (3) - slider-end clap rip
00:49:726 (3) -
00:54:635 (3) -

01:04:249 (4,5) - k i c k s l i d e r s

01:24:294 (3) - NC

01:37:385 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - really interesting stream design here... :thinking: although, I don't think it's intuitive to the song all that much, it has 3 moments of intensity shifting in a short period of time and the song doesn't reflect that. the drums only rolls twice. the middle part of the stream should be something else but i dunno

01:45:703 (6) - noooo repeat slider ;_; the beats should be clickable since more instruments being used
01:47:340 (6) -

02:00:976 (1) - too overspaced even if its the ending.

I like the other diffs more than this one tbh.. This seems really forced for difficulty that a lot of the structure becomes inconsistent. Spacing feels weak at some points and then stronger on others without much consistency to each other. I'm not exactly sure how to judge this one but yeah x(

Est-

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Est- 2017-03-19T08:37:22+00:00

noticed this while playing and it triggers me

Extra:
01:54:567 (1) - this is offscreen

no kd

Bergy

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Topic Starter

Bergy 2017-03-19T17:07:26+00:00

Kroytz wrote:
sorry this took so long but thank you for waiting ><;;

General:

Is it possible so that the lyrics don't overlap against each other? Makes it hard to read. For these sections at least
00:27:840 -
00:51:363 -
01:44:749 - maybe

i got rid of the sb and got a new one coming, i thought i updated it xd

Insane
00:05:749 (4) - Not too fond of this undermap since there are clickable beats that dont get clicked, looking at previous measures' rhythm would be more consistent. If you wanted to follow vocals then 00:02:476 (3) - would also be a repeat slider and here too 00:09:840 (1) - so I'd advise against the repeats really, same thing happens 00:12:294 (4) - i mean i disagree with the second set of points especially the one about 00:02:476 (3) - because the vocals don't even have a repeat-like pattern, but i'll change both of the other ones instead.

00:06:567 (1) - slider isn't perfectly centered angled, not sure if this is what you wanted to go for nah its good 90 degree sliders look trash

00:13:113 (1) - Since this is the ending measure of the phrase it'd probably be best to make this stronger? undermapping the strongest measure seems backwards. A rhythm like this sounds pretty good (if you dont want to do all the 1/4 streams):
(ex) http://puu.sh/uOZ2c/4026bbdd68.jpg i did a thing

00:28:931 - How come not hitting these? It sounds better when theyre hit tbh like how you have it in this measure 00:31:931 (3,4,5,6) - except without the repeats because it's a completely different sound in each spot. there's no sound at 00:28:931 - , but at 00:31:931 (3) - you can hear the guitar/kick doing that galloping pattern

01:17:749 (4,5) - maybe split these up into more 1/2 sliders. the first 1/2 would make more sense with the music and the other would just be for consistency but you could also do circles I guess. just the first downbeat better as 1/2. I know you try to follow longer vocal but that really strong red tick is hard to miss ill get rid of the repeat, but tbh there's not any strong sound in the middle of that 1/1 slider, i think the vocals are more important so i'll keep it

01:21:021 (1) - same thing i think this one is fine since the vocal sound on 01:21:021 (1) - is really strong

01:21:840 (1) - These make more sense as 1/1 since there's no 1/2 growl to make the 1/1s stand out, so this is okay even if it misses the red ok xd

I like how this one is mapped

Extra
00:09:704 (5) - this could be spaced out more i disagree, it should be spaced out the same that 00:09:431 (3) - is.

00:13:113 (1,2,3,4) - Try not to stick these... the 1/2 claps are so strong is begs to have higher spacing i'll space them out more but i'm going to keep the stack

00:15:567 (1,2,3) - I like how these help follow the vocals but then 00:17:204 (1,2,3) - doesn't. I think it still matches the guitar but theyre not treated exactly the same since they don't have the same support. Besides, the transition from 00:16:931 (3,1) - isn't very strong and as a personal bias, I don't really like how there's so many objects cluttered around a single space. idk i think the emphasis on the guitar is on every beat on that part, so it's not really just a vocal thing or just a guitar thing, it kinda morphed into the two of them and i don't really see a problem here

00:32:340 (1) - It's not needed to NC these since they dont add any real impact, theyre collectively the same rolls.
00:38:885 (1) - same ^ i NC these the same way in every diff that has this pattern, so i'm gonna keep it

00:48:090 (4,5,6) - This could be like a triangle 120 degree motion thingy. or maybe use the 3rd slider to be a linear slider in the center of the first two i'll take the linear slider thing idea

00:58:522 (2,3,4,5,6) - blanket??? ;_; could space (3,4,5,6,) away from the blanket so the Stacking doesn't mess with the visual. i really dont see any problem with how it's blanketed rn

01:09:294 (3) - Don't really like how this is in the middle of your next design but dont think it can be really helped much if you wanted to keep this as a slider. circles can make it visually more attractive to the next measure who knows i think it looks fine ! ?

01:11:204 (4) - remove NC
01:11:476 (1) - optional add NC
01:21:021 (1) - remove NC
01:24:294 (3) - optional add NC fixed all

01:32:612 (5,1) - ugh this looks so weird together... i disagree

01:36:158 (1) - remove NC no
01:42:703 (1) - I mean, honestly they don't even look stylish or anything lol it really just serves no purpose ok

01:44:340 (1) - at least this could be fitting but the relationship the objects have make the NC not needed here. i have it this way in every diff xd so im gonna keep it, the drum fill is clearly separated

01:44:749 (1,2) - I think since the music picks up here it'd be best not to undermap so heavily with the 1/1s but it's kept consistent throughout here so I mean, you probably wouldn't change all of them but yeah, more instruments = more objects usually. i honestly think the music doesn't pick up here. in the other parts of the kiais the drums completely play with the guitars, but here the drums switch to the hi hat, go to a faster drumbeat but it complements the guitars less and i think it's not as intense.

01:51:294 (1) - It tones down here so the 1/1s become more fitting for this section. ^^

01:54:567 (1) - Possibly offscreen yea fixed

01:55:794 (1) - zz

01:58:658 (1) - I guess this is kind of creative but there aren't any lasting vocals or instruments that make this slider accurate to the song I feel. As im sure youre aware it ends on the downbeat (or the white tick before it) which you have that kink in the slider for but it feels really weak... fix ed

Expert
00:13:113 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - ooh i really like these owo

00:21:022 (7) - maybe NC to show separation of DS yea i did that for all of them in this diff now i wont reply to the others

00:25:385 (1,2) - spacing is tooooo close D: ok !

00:28:113 (2,3) - and here too D: its legit how i mapped every single kiai except for that one thats different

00:29:067 (7,8) - possibly these as well. it's because it's kiai time and it'd be stronger but the relationships feel weaker than the lyrical parts. i mean theres not really anything to emphasize here

00:29:749 (2,3) - same thing... at this point I think it's a stylistic gimmicky thing so I can't point them all out but I think it's not a strong gimmick to apply here i disagree, what makes this not strong? a gimmick is a gimmick, this is how i heard the song the first time i mapped it, so this is how i mapped it

00:32:340 (1) - I won't point out these anymore either too but the NC's aren't needed for any of these triple drum rolls.

00:33:839 (5) - NC for DS change

00:40:385 (5) - This should also have a DS change to keep consistent with your other streams. Not really needed since its the last stream of the measure but you could try it idk. whatever looks better to you, im only looking at consistency for this xP

00:40:931 (13) - possibly NC ye

00:50:341 (7) - blegh slider. sticks out waay too much for a vocal that doesn't sound much different than the rest i did that for the guitar

01:02:476 (1,2) - might be stronger to use non repeating kicks for these but it might be too immediate so 1/4 repeatings are okay but feels more powerful without the repeats >> i dont really wanna make this part too too streamy and hard because i left that for the top diff

01:23:339 (5,1,2) - eh linear flow here is so awkward. (5) would have to be repositioned some where else maybe 59;236 fixed

01:34:249 (6) - ew this is really unsettling lol. at least not make it a 1:1 overlap but still just making something else anywhere would be better >>;; ok !

01:35:340 (2) - spacing doesn't capture the intensity and the overlaps are also a bit strange here. doesn't get the opportunity to blanket either so I just think an alternative design altogether would be better. blanketed em

01:36:567 (1,2) - one of these should be equal with the other :< i disagree !
01:41:476 (1,2) - same... i disagree!

01:44:340 (7) - NC

01:45:703 (6) - kinda undermapped here, music picks up, don't need 1/1 slider
01:47:340 (6) - same explained in extra (or maybe it was insane? idk) how i don't think this part of the music is as intense

01:49:930 (5) - NC

Wretched
00:00:022 (1,2) - so hard to start the map off..... i mean its a hard map and i wanted to make this different from the previous diff which had a 1/4 repeating slider

00:01:385 (6,7,1) - spacing is overdone here... literally only two instruments being played right as the song is starting so its like bad overdone not good overdone x-x heh thats where you're wrong it's only one instrument P i nerfed the jumps a little bit, but i still think this part is really intense since it's constant banging on the snares + leading into a really strong downbeat

00:04:794 (5,1) - flow is not very well received here. copy pasting the (4) slider to 334;334 could be an option (it has an ugly overlap tho) but just as an idea of how to continue for better flow i think flow is good here, the (1) is a really strong note and changing the direction of flow puts even more emphasis on it

00:06:976 (3,5) - so yeah, it'd have this problem of overlap. maybe having (5) slider as a linear slider between the two angled sliders could create better structure. i mean i dont wanna be like ITS MY STYLE ALL DENIED but this overlap style legit is my style + i feel like putting the (5) between the other two wouldn't emphasize it properly and make a weird overlap with the stream after.

00:09:567 (4) - should also be two circles to be rhythmically paired with 00:08:749 (4,5) - for the vocals since they get introduced you could do back and forth overlaps if you decide to use circles at 00:08:476 (2,3,4,5) - the guitar/drum thing here should be emphasized but since the vocals come in on a very loud note at 00:09:567 (4) - i mapped it differently to show that and emphasize that. different music = different map

00:17:476 (3,4,5,6) - there's really awkward flow here and the spacing changes too much... the trapezoid shape isn't very shapely either already changed this from a comment someone had a day or so ago xd

00:25:658 (2,3,4,5) - the spacing couldve been better if the (2) was in the center of the objects but since it's not, it throws off the spacing really. slightly changed, dont wanna mess around too much with this pattern

00:28:522 (4,5) - I get the drum clap but does it have to be this spaced? The song is not super strong for these kiai moments in earlier diffs u said that stuff should be stronger bc of kiai lul, it's not even really that spaced

00:31:522 (2,1) - this feels better spaced for the drum claps, it kinda looks more natural really well its also after a slider so leniency makes it seem not as emphasized i think

00:32:340 (1) - same NC things as before

00:43:385 (3) - NC k

00:48:090 (3) - slider-end clap rip
00:49:726 (3) -
00:54:635 (3) - fixed

01:04:249 (4,5) - k i c k s l i d e r s i mapped it this way because the way the guitar descends the little thing it's doing it sounds like it should be less emphasized

01:24:294 (3) - NC yes my friend

01:37:385 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - really interesting stream design here... :thinking: although, I don't think it's intuitive to the song all that much, it has 3 moments of intensity shifting in a short period of time and the song doesn't reflect that. the drums only rolls twice. the middle part of the stream should be something else but i dunno this is exactly what i hear in the drums, like i said in the diff above i map how i hear the song and this is what got put in my head at that moment

01:45:703 (6) - noooo repeat slider ;_; the beats should be clickable since more instruments being used
01:47:340 (6) - i fix ed it

02:00:976 (1) - too overspaced even if its the ending. no

I like the other diffs more than this one tbh.. This seems really forced for difficulty that a lot of the structure becomes inconsistent. Spacing feels weak at some points and then stronger on others without much consistency to each other. I'm not exactly sure how to judge this one but yeah x( kroytz maps in a nutshell lulullul but fr ill try fixing that like buffing some jumps because this feels really stream-heavy rn

thank 4 mod !

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