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77 posts
Joined July 2015
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When people first earn pp I think there should be a thing telling them what it is, basically telling them whatever the wiki says. People complain about not getting the right amount of pp a lot because of weighting and I feel like this would help those people out. It would help just about every new player and they wouldn't have to ask about the issue on the forums.
Quinten
59 posts
Joined October 2014
Quinten
If they care enough about that stuff, it wouldn't be too much effort to just visit the wiki would it.
Theres a bar at the top of the site that says "Wiki / Help".

I don't get why people don't read when the info is literally all on this site.
If you won't make the effort to look it up then it's your own fault.
You don't even have to make a post, just read it from the Wiki..?
ItzJJmk2
10 posts
Joined April 2016
ItzJJmk2

Quinten wrote:

If they care enough about that stuff, it wouldn't be too much effort to just visit the wiki would it.
Theres a bar at the top of the site that says "Wiki / Help".

I don't get why people don't read when the info is literally all on this site.
If you won't make the effort to look it up then it's your own fault.
You don't even have to make a post, just read it from the Wiki..?
Calm down... goodness. We're talking about new people here, generally they can't understand the interface, so it would be nice for them to have a simple tool-tip or something...
7ambda
2,588 posts
Joined January 2015
7ambda

Quinten wrote:

If they care enough about that stuff, it wouldn't be too much effort to just visit the wiki would it.
Theres a bar at the top of the site that says "Wiki / Help".

I don't get why people don't read when the info is literally all on this site.
If you won't make the effort to look it up then it's your own fault.
You don't even have to make a post, just read it from the Wiki..?
For transparency on how your final pp is calculated, pp gained from the beatmap is given along with weight (% of eligible pp to be gained for final pp). Only your highest pp score's beatmap gives you full pp. Other scores' pp values will be multiplied with decreasing percentage. The percentage is always rounded to the next whole number for displaying, but for calculations it is not. For example a score can be weighted by 0.48% despite the display saying "0%". If n is the amount of scores giving more pp than a given score, then the score's weight is 0.95^n .
It follows, that your total pp is computed as follows. Let PP contain each score's pp value. PP[i] denotes the ith score's pp value, sorted decreasingly, where i goes from 1 to n, and n is the amount of scores you have.
Total pp = PP[1] * 0.95^0 + PP[2] * 0.95^1 + PP[3] * 0.95^2 + ... + PP[n] * 0.95^(n-1)
Click for an example of the formula usage (scroll down to see the example).
There is also bonus pp based on the number of ranked maps you have a score on. The bonus is:
416.6667 (1- 0.9994^Number_of_scores).

Trying to write information like this in an unintelligible way makes it hard for most people to understand right off the bat. This makes it easier to understand why they'd ask on the forum. If you seriously want people to get what you're saying, don't try to sound like a smartass and use elaborate wording to get your message across.
Pawsu
osu! Alumni
5,213 posts
Joined February 2013
Pawsu
I'm like 98% sure there is going to be some sort of revamped tutorial and PP will be on there with osu!next.
Bara-
11,978 posts
Joined April 2013
Bara-
As if people will actually read/understand it...
Endaris
5,282 posts
Joined June 2010
Endaris
You know, we have a pp-question-section on the FAQ that someone also copied to the pp-page, so there is nothing like "uh pp explanation too cryptic".
There are TWO links to the pp-wiki-entry on everyone's profile (one in general, one in Top Ranks, both on the keyword PERFORMANCE).
So like. It's not that hard.
Stefan
Global Moderator
10,407 posts
Joined January 2011
Stefan

Bara- wrote:

As if people will actually read/understand it...
The explaination to pp is pretty simple already and be calculated very well by your own if you spend five minutes, yet people think Tillerino gives you to 100% the exact pp you get from plays. If anyone is interested, they should find #help and ask for the Wiki entries for pp, some users will gladly lead the user there. Otherwise, nobody will read it.

JJAwesome101 wrote:

Calm down... goodness. We're talking about new people here, generally they can't understand the interface, so it would be nice for them to have a simple tool-tip or something...
You can't tell me new users - I count everything within a week as new - they rather care for the point system more than the actual gameplay, what osu! offers (Forum, Chat, Special Modes, etc) and basically everything. This sounds like a unbelievable assumption.
ItzJJmk2
10 posts
Joined April 2016
ItzJJmk2

Stefan wrote:

You can't tell me new users - I count everything within a week as new - they rather care for the point system more than the actual gameplay, what osu! offers (Forum, Chat, Special Modes, etc) and basically everything. This sounds like a unbelievable assumption.
I'm coming from myself here, when I was new, I wanted to know what the hell was going on and the reason behind the game-play. Although what you said makes sense, it doesn't dismiss my point.
Flami
26 posts
Joined December 2013
Flami
i guess a tutorial for the basics of the game other than gameplay such as pp or maybe even mapping would be nice
especially since more and more new people are starting to play osu! everyday
Korrui
75 posts
Joined April 2014
Korrui
ive been playing for two years and i still ahve a hard time calculating pp haha(for taiko)
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