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Camellia - farewell to today

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silento
298 posts
Joined June 2015
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silento
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, February 19, 2017 at 10:23:31 PM

Artist: Camellia
Title: farewell to today
Tags: sudden shower
BPM: 170
Filesize: 9233kb
Play Time: 05:16
Difficulties Available:
  1. changes (5.58 stars, 1655 notes)
  2. future (5.54 stars, 1647 notes)
Download: Camellia - farewell to today
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I have reconsidered my decision to rank this. For those that did mod and give me pointers on my mapping, thank you very much! Maybe I will revisit this map and attempt to rank it once I finally finalize my style, but as of now, I am dropping this map. For those of you who gave pointers, mods, playtests and further questions on my mapping ability, once again thank you!

Maybe this map deserves some fixing of other kinds first...

changelog
July-17-2016: slight metadata change, adding volume in the map. Might need to redownload.
August-10-2016: Added hitsounds, but hitsounding not complete. Would definitely like some advice on this!
remember to update
0rangelightning; simple suggestion that made two parts of the map not shit
Many thanks to -Jordan-; who helped fix my countless mindless 1/4 jumps alongside flow/note placement suggestions as well as continuously checking over my dumb mistakes
Lithium; finding flow issues and generally polishing up some sections
Last edited by silento , edited 74 times in total.
-jordan-
692 posts
Joined October 2015
-jordan-
This map is amazing, GD incoming ;) Edit: (New Camellia album?!? Oh, I'm overworked now). Pleasure modding in game for you.
Last edited by -jordan- , edited 1 time in total.
silento
298 posts
Joined June 2015
Topic Starter
silento
Jordan's mod here as he doesn't have chat logs enabled
2016-07-02 21:03 TheArchist: am i famoose
2016-07-02 21:04 -Jordan-: kk
2016-07-02 21:04 -Jordan-: mutual ^^
2016-07-02 21:06 -Jordan-: basically loved the first 30 seconds
2016-07-02 21:06 TheArchist: needs better placement i think
2016-07-02 21:07 -Jordan-: yeah
2016-07-02 21:07 TheArchist: i keep rewatching my replay on it and there are some things a bit weridly placed
2016-07-02 21:07 -Jordan-: maybe im a skrub but
2016-07-02 21:07 -Jordan-: 00:02:202 (1,2)
2016-07-02 21:07 -Jordan-: stuff like this is impossible to read first time
2016-07-02 21:07 -Jordan-: and it happens a couple times
2016-07-02 21:07 TheArchist: ive never misread that strangely
2016-07-02 21:07 TheArchist: and ive seen another guy not misread that
2016-07-02 21:08 -Jordan-: well then im a scrub
2016-07-02 21:08 -Jordan-: maybe if the first circle was not stacked? cos the rhythm isnt even between the 3 notes
2016-07-02 21:09 TheArchist: i kind of like the perfect stack, but i'll look into it more
2016-07-02 21:09 -Jordan-: antway, apart from that the start was very fun
2016-07-02 21:09 -Jordan-: 00:18:437 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8)
2016-07-02 21:10 -Jordan-: the volume change here annoys me tho
2016-07-02 21:10 -Jordan-: the stream itslef is great
2016-07-02 21:10 -Jordan-: maybe if it didnt start out so quiet
2016-07-02 21:10 TheArchist: it starts at like... 10% and then scales up
2016-07-02 21:10 TheArchist: hmm i'll try a different scaling prob
2016-07-02 21:11 -Jordan-: if it started at 20% itd be good
2016-07-02 21:11 -Jordan-: i like how it gets louder
2016-07-02 21:11 TheArchist: maybe like ye 20-40-60-80-100
2016-07-02 21:11 -Jordan-: yeah
2016-07-02 21:11 -Jordan-: 00:37:143 (2,3) -
2016-07-02 21:11 -Jordan-: this is a 1/4 jump :p
2016-07-02 21:11 -Jordan-: pls no
2016-07-02 21:12 TheArchist: git guud scrub xddddd
2016-07-02 21:12 -Jordan-: this too 00:38:467 (2,3) -
2016-07-02 21:12 -Jordan-: ;-;
2016-07-02 21:12 -Jordan-: 1/4 jumps are fine like that if they flow between 2 note
2016-07-02 21:12 -Jordan-: not like that though
2016-07-02 21:12 TheArchist: on a serious note i did fix it
2016-07-02 21:13 -Jordan-: okay good
2016-07-02 21:14 -Jordan-: 00:45:261 (1) -
2016-07-02 21:14 -Jordan-: from here on is amazing
2016-07-02 21:14 TheArchist: huh up till when
2016-07-02 21:15 -Jordan-: 1:30
2016-07-02 21:15 -Jordan-: it fits the song really well
2016-07-02 21:15 TheArchist: alright so i indeed fixed that part properly
2016-07-02 21:15 TheArchist: the singletaps used to be pretty fucking off
2016-07-02 21:16 TheArchist: also
2016-07-02 21:16 TheArchist: 01:15:790 -
2016-07-02 21:16 TheArchist: fixed this jump too
2016-07-02 21:16 -Jordan-: 01:29:996 (1,2,3,4,5,1) -
2016-07-02 21:17 -Jordan-: these could be closer together
2016-07-02 21:17 -Jordan-: 00:58:849 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
2016-07-02 21:17 -Jordan-: ^here too
2016-07-02 21:17 TheArchist: they were originally closer, but i liked the accentuate the music there
2016-07-02 21:17 TheArchist: idk how to describe
2016-07-02 21:18 TheArchist: but sort of stop and go?
2016-07-02 21:18 TheArchist: however i'll fix that
2016-07-02 21:18 -Jordan-: yeah
2016-07-02 21:18 -Jordan-: i like the style
2016-07-02 21:18 -Jordan-: but the jump is a bit too large
2016-07-02 21:18 -Jordan-: just my oppinion
2016-07-02 21:18 TheArchist: prob tone down the snap
2016-07-02 21:19 -Jordan-: yeah
2016-07-02 21:19 -Jordan-: 01:04:496 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
2016-07-02 21:19 -Jordan-: these hurt
2016-07-02 21:20 TheArchist: haha ive played them perfectly everytime alongside the other person i asked
2016-07-02 21:20 TheArchist: also i like that
2016-07-02 21:20 -Jordan-: just saying
2016-07-02 21:20 -Jordan-: maybe a different pattern
2016-07-02 21:20 TheArchist: hr players will find it nasty i think
2016-07-02 21:20 -Jordan-: or closer together?
2016-07-02 21:20 TheArchist: nah i like it as is, that one can stay for now
2016-07-02 21:20 -Jordan-: anyway, you can ignore anything i say
2016-07-02 21:20 -Jordan-: it is your map ^^
2016-07-02 21:21 -Jordan-: 01:04:496 (1,2,3,4,5,6,2,1)
2016-07-02 21:21 TheArchist: my map
2016-07-02 21:21 TheArchist: but people are gonna play it
2016-07-02 21:21 TheArchist: myself including
2016-07-02 21:21 -Jordan-: another stupid 1/4 jump
2016-07-02 21:21 TheArchist: er thats my square pattern i think
2016-07-02 21:22 -Jordan-: oh lol
2016-07-02 21:22 TheArchist: maybe i've already changed that
2016-07-02 21:22 -Jordan-: 1 sec
2016-07-02 21:22 -Jordan-: i dont really need to point out the 1/4 jumos
2016-07-02 21:23 -Jordan-: there are a couple, im sure you can find them yourself
2016-07-02 21:23 TheArchist: ye ive been on the case and figuring out better placement for them
2016-07-02 21:23 -Jordan-: 01:19:408 (1,2,1,1,2)
2016-07-02 21:23 -Jordan-: i like this pattern
2016-07-02 21:23 -Jordan-: but you dont repeat it in the 2nd next bar
2016-07-02 21:23 -Jordan-: i think you should
2016-07-02 21:24 -Jordan-: 01:22:320 (2,3,1,2,3)
2016-07-02 21:24 -Jordan-: here you should repeat it
2016-07-02 21:24 TheArchist: put down all you have to say im gonna be right back, ive got to do something quick
2016-07-02 21:24 -Jordan-: okok
2016-07-02 21:29 -Jordan-: 01:34:673 (1,2,3,4)
2016-07-02 21:29 -Jordan-: wtf
2016-07-02 21:29 -Jordan-: relpace these with a stack or something
2016-07-02 21:29 -Jordan-: its so confusing
2016-07-02 21:30 -Jordan-: ^happens a lot
2016-07-02 21:30 -Jordan-: i think it lets your map down imho
2016-07-02 21:30 -Jordan-: but the rest is genious, i love 'most' of your style
2016-07-02 21:31 -Jordan-: 01:37:496 (1,2)
2016-07-02 21:31 -Jordan-: less copy paste :p
2016-07-02 21:31 -Jordan-: 01:57:967 (1,2,3,1,2,3)
2016-07-02 21:31 -Jordan-: again
2016-07-02 21:32 -Jordan-: maybe if they werent stacked, itd be more readable
2016-07-02 21:32 -Jordan-: like if it were a slider stream like here
2016-07-02 21:32 -Jordan-: 02:02:908 (1,2,3,4)
2016-07-02 21:32 -Jordan-: 02:14:908 (9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16)
2016-07-02 21:33 -Jordan-: this can be more spaced
2016-07-02 21:33 -Jordan-: not toomuch tho
2016-07-02 21:33 -Jordan-: id reccomend you reshape the stream actually
2016-07-02 21:33 TheArchist: how much of a reshape
2016-07-02 21:34 -Jordan-: have the same start and end point
2016-07-02 21:34 -Jordan-: as long as it flows nicely from one to the other
2016-07-02 21:34 -Jordan-: 02:30:614 (6,1)
2016-07-02 21:34 -Jordan-: 1/4 jump :p
2016-07-02 21:34 -Jordan-: 02:31:055 (4,1)
2016-07-02 21:34 -Jordan-: again (not as bad)
2016-07-02 21:35 TheArchist: ok first one i actually legit forgot to control g the sliders
2016-07-02 21:35 -Jordan-: 02:31:849 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - replace these with 2 sliders??
2016-07-02 21:35 TheArchist: i wanted to give the feeling of sort of.. rumbling? with the map
2016-07-02 21:36 -Jordan-: have this just be 1 note
2016-07-02 21:36 -Jordan-: 02:40:143 (6) -
2016-07-02 21:36 TheArchist: fixed
2016-07-02 21:36 -Jordan-: 02:41:555 (8) - extend this 1/4 beat
2016-07-02 21:36 TheArchist: fixed
2016-07-02 21:37 -Jordan-: 03:10:673 (3) -
2016-07-02 21:37 -Jordan-: make this just 1 note
2016-07-02 21:37 -Jordan-: 03:14:114 (2)
2016-07-02 21:37 -Jordan-: move this below 03:13:849 (1)
2016-07-02 21:37 TheArchist: done
2016-07-02 21:38 -Jordan-: 03:26:732 (1)
2016-07-02 21:38 -Jordan-: extend 1/4 sounds better
2016-07-02 21:38 -Jordan-: 03:28:143 (1) -
2016-07-02 21:38 -Jordan-: here too
2016-07-02 21:38 -Jordan-: ^ 03:29:556 (1) -
2016-07-02 21:39 -Jordan-: ^ 03:30:967 (1) -
2016-07-02 21:39 TheArchist: alright applied
2016-07-02 21:39 -Jordan-: 03:38:202 (2)
2016-07-02 21:39 -Jordan-: end point isnt on a 1/4 beat
2016-07-02 21:39 TheArchist: o wait shit
2016-07-02 21:39 TheArchist: i might have fucked up sv for that section
2016-07-02 21:40 -Jordan-: oh yeah :p
2016-07-02 21:40 -Jordan-: this just turned into me modding your map haha
2016-07-02 21:40 -Jordan-: its 2:38am, some special thanks better be in order ;)
2016-07-02 21:40 TheArchist: no man
2016-07-02 21:40 TheArchist: its very well appreciated
2016-07-02 21:41 -Jordan-: no problem
2016-07-02 21:41 -Jordan-: you can always ask for my oppinion
2016-07-02 21:41 -Jordan-: jordan the pro mapper :)
2016-07-02 21:42 -Jordan-: this song is sick tho
2016-07-02 21:42 -Jordan-: might map it myself
2016-07-02 21:42 GD??? *wink wink*
2016-07-02 21:42 TheArchist: hehe anytime
2016-07-02 21:43 -Jordan-: i'll see what i can make ^^
2016-07-02 21:43 -Jordan-: and if its good i'll send it your way
2016-07-02 21:43 TheArchist: alright cool
2016-07-02 21:44 TheArchist: ok one thing
2016-07-02 21:44 TheArchist: post this in the forum
2016-07-02 21:44 TheArchist: i'll give kudosu
2016-07-02 21:44 -Jordan-: okay
2016-07-02 21:45 -Jordan-: wait
2016-07-02 21:45 TheArchist: if you dont have chatlogs
2016-07-02 21:45 TheArchist: i'll do it
2016-07-02 21:45 TheArchist: but post so i can grant kudosu
2016-07-02 21:45 -Jordan-: i dont lol
2016-07-02 21:45 -Jordan-: okay thanks
2016-07-02 21:45 -Jordan-: send me the log
2016-07-02 21:45 TheArchist: just put a random hi post or something i'll handle the rest

Thanks for the mod! Very appreciated!
xLolicore-
636 posts
Joined June 2014
xLolicore-
HELLO :D


Ok time to mod xd

Also, adjust all your hitsounding volumes as all are at 100% volume lol

00:56:555 (7) - I think this one's too long, sounds weird
00:57:084 (8) - I think that slider's too short, it sounds weird
01:00:702 (4,1) - I don't know dude, I think that spacing's pretty massive o_O would be nice if you can change it
01:04:761 (4,5,6,7) - Don't repeat that lo
01:06:437 (5) - Should NC this tbh
01:44:202 (5,6,7) - Looks ugly D: maybe make it a proper stream?
02:36:437 (3) - Played it on 25%, looks like the stream begins there and not 02:36:614 (1)
02:36:790 (3) - NC this while you're at it

02:36:614 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18) - That stream shape though, make it a bit more properly curved :(
02:38:202 (1) - Slider too long
02:41:555 (8) - Slider too short
02:50:908 (5) - Slider too long
02:55:673 (2) - Slider too short
03:39:614 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Stream shape looks weird again
03:40:232 (8,1) - Spacing is massive as
04:29:379 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20) - Holy why is it up to 20
04:47:379 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Same case with the stream shapes

Good luck xd
silento
298 posts
Joined June 2015
Topic Starter
silento
omg hi it's a lolicore person!
Agree and disagree are what I'm going to be using here.

xLolicore- wrote:

HELLO :D


Ok time to mod xd

Also, adjust all your hitsounding volumes as all are at 100% volume lol For one part, the volume scales up accordingly so I'd like to keep it that way for that part. However I did catch a little error here in the beginning.

00:56:555 (7) - I think this one's too long, sounds weird Fixed
00:57:084 (8) - I think that slider's too short, it sounds weird Fixed
01:00:702 (4,1) - I don't know dude, I think that spacing's pretty massive o_O would be nice if you can change it Fixed lo; I thought I murdered all the 1/4 jumps with fire, guess not.
01:04:761 (4,5,6,7) - Don't repeat that lo Have not, will be making the other appearance of this a stack/stream depending on what I think fits better.
01:06:437 (5) - Should NC this tbh Threw an NC on the 11 for some visuals and an even split.
01:44:202 (5,6,7) - Looks ugly D: maybe make it a proper stream? ^ see previous complaint on the square shape. Might rework it further after more plays to fit the music more.
02:36:437 (3) - Played it on 25%, looks like the stream begins there and not 02:36:614 (1) Agree; am deaf.
02:36:790 (3) - NC this while you're at it NC on 11 over here.

02:36:614 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18) - That stream shape though, make it a bit more properly curved :( I'm remapping that stream because of the fact that it begins earlier than I had originally mapped it, so this problem will be going away alongside making said stream build up properly.
02:38:202 (1) - Slider too long
02:41:555 (8) - Slider too short
02:50:908 (5) - Slider too long
02:55:673 (2) - Slider too short
Applied all fixes.
03:39:614 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Stream shape looks weird again Reworked.
03:40:232 (8,1) - Spacing is massive as Proof that I am utter shit at catching my own 1/4 jumps; fixed by removing last stream note.
04:29:379 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20) - Holy why is it up to 20 I'm retarded. NC'd at 11 again.
04:47:379 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Same case with the stream shapes I personally like the motion there, but probably going to end up tweaking snap again.

Good luck xd

Thanks for the mod and most definitely xd.
Manysi
335 posts
Joined July 2014
Manysi
weird map, but i like it. Its rare to see something out of meta nowadays.
Hit me up if you need a mod.
silento
298 posts
Joined June 2015
Topic Starter
silento

Manysi wrote:

weird map, but i like it. Its rare to see something out of meta nowadays.
Hit me up if you need a mod.
I would most definitely like a mod! Any constructive criticism is welcome. ^^
Manysi
335 posts
Joined July 2014
Manysi
Ok, here we go

My opinion in general: The map doesnt follow any structure or any order with the patterns. It seems like someone just threw around objects without any thinking involved. The patterns doesnt connect in any way to each other which can result in playability problems. If your intention was to make something c00l that looks totally random, then gj. If thats not the case... then you will definetly have benefit form this mod lol.
Many of your patterns i liked. They are truly original and fun. Most of them doesnt really make sense with the music but i kinda get why they are there. I will address this in my mod mostly. (I wont point out which i liked and why cuz thats not the point of a mod)
NCing seemed totally random to me. The only reason i can think of is that you tried to separate the pattern when mapping by using NCs. It definetly adds up to the randomness. My point against it is it can ruin playability OR actually make it easier to read.
Probably the most important thing to note about this map is spacing. Now thats what you can fuck up badly if you make something like this.
Fortunately you managed to succeed at spacing most of the time so i dont have to make a monster-post.

Im not used to playing maps with such difficult patterns nor am i a good player but i can edit this post and provide a replay if you want to.

00:01:143 (3,1) - first spacing problem. You already have objects with a similar distance to this like 00:00:085 (1,2) - so its really dumb to have very similar visual spacing with not the same snap. I am well aware of the slider leniency but it would be more confy with less spacing.
I wont point out the same cases more than once cuz you can go trough your map and check them yourself.
00:01:673 (1) - would be better spaced further so you dont need the NC for readability.
00:03:084 (2) - 1/4 snap pls
00:05:026 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - the last circle doesnt look so pretty. I recommend you to turn of grid snap while making streams for reasons like this.
Actually,^ the stream doesnt end at the red.
00:07:672 (2) - should be kickslider instead of 00:07:496 (1) - cuz there is something in the blue tick.
00:10:673 (1,2,1,2,3) - this is pure 1/6
00:14:202 (1,2,3) - why didnt you map the previous one like this?
00:14:467 (2,3,1) - again the spacing problem i mentioned before. 00:14:467 (2,3) - 1/1 gap between the clicks. 00:14:732 (3,1) - 1/2 gap. This is important cuz ppl play kicksliders like circles. There is no holding involved.
00:18:437 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - inaudible hs
00:21:967 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - clearly something else in the music
00:34:320 you are missing a snare here
00:57:967 (5,7,8) - should be the same
01:01:320 (2,3,4,5,6) - wooo there, thats some huge spacing. prolly just a mistake.
01:07:761 (11,1) - same but this was intentional i think. DONT use this big spacing with circles if the gap is only 1/4. Just watch how auto plays it. (slow down the playback obv)
01:12:879 (2,1) - ^
01:46:673 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 1/2 sliders would fit better
01:57:526 extend the stream
02:36:084 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - would be a good idea to put stream jumps to the strong beats. Or make them kicksliders.
04:37:673 (5,6) - too low spacing compared to the previous sliders
04:57:261 (1) - ctrl+g
04:58:320 (1) - 1/1 reverse slider so you map the drum beats too

such a short text if i dont repeat myself. The wub sections were mostly ok, but i feel like this was a too difficult song for you to map.
silento
298 posts
Joined June 2015
Topic Starter
silento
Responses here
Agree and disagree are what I'm going to be using here.

Manysi wrote:

Ok, here we go

My opinion in general: The map doesnt follow any structure or any order with the patterns. It seems like someone just threw around objects without any thinking involved. The patterns doesnt connect in any way to each other which can result in playability problems. If your intention was to make something c00l that looks totally random, then gj. If thats not the case... then you will definetly have benefit form this mod lol.

No this is 100% the reason I want mods on this map. I want to catch mistakes like these because I kept replaying it lately and well... the map is only fun in 50% (maybe less, maybe more; I can't think of an accurate percentage) of the sections. I wish to make this map fun the entire time and your points are exactly what I think I am lacking in this map in order to make it actually pleasant to play while keeping with my vision.

Many of your patterns i liked. They are truly original and fun. Most of them doesnt really make sense with the music but i kinda get why they are there. I will address this in my mod mostly. (I wont point out which i liked and why cuz thats not the point of a mod)

I'd still like to know which patterns were uncomfortable and why because what is comfortable to me in my self playtests may not be comfortable to other people. Don't do this if you don't have time though.

NCing seemed totally random to me. The only reason i can think of is that you tried to separate the pattern when mapping by using NCs. It definetly adds up to the randomness. My point against it is it can ruin playability OR actually make it easier to read.

Agreed; many of those NCs were because I wanted to emphasize different phrases but disregarded how random they actually are.

Probably the most important thing to note about this map is spacing. Now thats what you can fuck up badly if you make something like this.
Fortunately you managed to succeed at spacing most of the time so i dont have to make a monster-post.

Im not used to playing maps with such difficult patterns nor am i a good player but i can edit this post and provide a replay if you want to. A replay would help me see some of the issues I have on this map, so I would definitely appreciate one. I'm making these edits on a different diff of the map for now as I'm waiting to see your replay for some extra issues I may find.

00:01:143 (3,1) - first spacing problem. You already have objects with a similar distance to this like 00:00:085 (1,2) - so its really dumb to have very similar visual spacing with not the same snap. I am well aware of the slider leniency but it would be more confy with less spacing.
I wont point out the same cases more than once cuz you can go trough your map and check them yourself. Agree; I've been looking for them by hand recently, which is why the map hasn't been updated.
00:01:673 (1) - would be better spaced further so you dont need the NC for readability. Agree, ties in with your previous point.
00:03:084 (2) - 1/4 snap pls Fixed.
00:05:026 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - the last circle doesnt look so pretty. I recommend you to turn of grid snap while making streams for reasons like this.
Actually,^ the stream doesnt end at the red. Fixed, but adding a circle to the end adds a 1/4 jump which is uncomfortable to play. However, maybe a 1/4 slider may fix that particular issue or even just a stream rework. I'll test each option and update with the one that plays the best.
00:07:672 (2) - should be kickslider instead of 00:07:496 (1) - cuz there is something in the blue tick. Applied.
00:10:673 (1,2,1,2,3) - this is pure 1/6 I did not consider this at all; thank you for the fix.
00:14:202 (1,2,3) - why didnt you map the previous one like this? Not sure what you mean by this. If you mean to map this part in 1/6, then yes, now I've changed it.
00:14:467 (2,3,1) - again the spacing problem i mentioned before. 00:14:467 (2,3) - 1/1 gap between the clicks. 00:14:732 (3,1) - 1/2 gap. This is important cuz ppl play kicksliders like circles. There is no holding involved. Readjusted spacing of 2 and 3.
00:18:437 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - inaudible hs This probably sticks out because I haven't done volume control on the rest of the map. I'll leave it for now as a reminder to apply volume control after fixing the map structurally.
00:21:967 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - clearly something else in the music I'm of the opinion that this is exactly what I hear in the music and how I wanted the part to play out in honesty. I don't see any other interpretation I'd like.
00:34:320 you are missing a snare here Added.
00:57:967 (5,7,8) - should be the same Fixed.
01:01:320 (2,3,4,5,6) - wooo there, thats some huge spacing. prolly just a mistake. Not a mistake, it was the best way I could emphasize the sound in that phrase. I'm not sure how to change it to emphasize that doesn't make the large 1/4 jump, but I'm open to suggestions.
01:07:761 (11,1) - same but this was intentional i think. DONT use this big spacing with circles if the gap is only 1/4. Just watch how auto plays it. (slow down the playback obv) This however is unintentional; I will be reworking the stream and put some kick sliders with proper angling instead.
01:12:879 (2,1) - ^ Moved 2 to white tick.
01:46:673 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 1/2 sliders would fit better I disagree as there are three accentuated notes while the last one is kind of soft (kinda like hit soft hit soft) whereas to me the music calls for a hit hit hit soft pattern. Since I'm avoiding 1/4 jumps, I'd like to keep it as is.
01:57:526 extend the stream ^; also there are some drum down beats that I'd want to express, hence the sliders.
02:36:084 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - would be a good idea to put stream jumps to the strong beats. Or make them kicksliders. I've realized that this part needs a redo when it comes to expressing intensity anyway, so the kicksliders may be something I'm considering.
04:37:673 (5,6) - too low spacing compared to the previous sliders Readjusted 6 slider's position to keep consistent spacing.
04:57:261 (1) - ctrl+g Applied
04:58:320 (1) - 1/1 reverse slider so you map the drum beats too I'd be ignoring the whistle in the background when it's a pretty obvious noise to map.

such a short text if i dont repeat myself. The wub sections were mostly ok, but i feel like this was a too difficult song for you to map. I don't necessarily agree that this song was hard to map; but rather it's hard to make it work the way I want it to in my head without sacrificing quality. However, thank you so much for giving me this mod as it helped immensely. It's a mod after all, a nice learning experience for me.
Manysi
335 posts
Joined July 2014
Manysi
Replying like this cuz im not sure if you would see my edit.
http://puu.sh/pZlBY/a1432fa5a9.osr I dont think this will be useful for you since i cant read most patterns. The kickslider wub parts were fun to play and i dont mind inversting time into something with potential, so you can catch me ingame if you want to hear what i liked + i might get some ideas to improve your map further. (praising doesnt belong to the map's thread)

did you just use yuyuko colors to respond xd
silento
298 posts
Joined June 2015
Topic Starter
silento

Manysi wrote:

Replying like this cuz im not sure if you would see my edit.
http://puu.sh/pZlBY/a1432fa5a9.osr I dont think this will be useful for you since i cant read most patterns. The kickslider wub parts were fun to play and i dont mind inversting time into something with potential, so you can catch me ingame if you want to hear what i liked + i might get some ideas to improve your map further. (praising doesnt belong to the map's thread)
I'll find something useful out of the replay, I'm sure of it. Also I'll get back to you after applying changes (particularly the big spacing inconsistencies and NC usage).

did you just use yuyuko colors to respond xd
lol; nah, blue and red were the first that came to mind whenever I respond to mods because easy to associate with.
squirrelpascals
982 posts
Joined March 2015
squirrelpascals
hey look, its an m4m!

my mod for your map
• 00:01:673 (1) - i see what your mapping this to, but i still feel like its better that you map this as a circle

• 00:08:820 (3) - I feel there are better rhythm options than this repeat slider

• 00:12:702 - make it clickable

• 00:19:143 (1) - This is where the stream should start

• 00:37:143 (2,3,4,5) - feels clustered

• 00:38:643 (3,1,2,3) - Spacing issues here; same visual spacing with different gaps in the imeline

• 00:44:379 - neglected beats here?

• 01:01:673 - make it clickable

• 01:10:320 (1,2,1) - same comment as 00:38:643 (3,1,2,3) -

• 01:31:143 - Should something clickable go here as well? 01:31:320 (1) - feels out of place

• 01:32:908 (3) - if your mapping this to the vocal part here, this should start at 01:32:820 -

• 01:37:496 (1,2) - snapped wrong

• 01:38:555 (1) - ctrl + g?

• 01:43:849 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - Stream doesn't feel applicable here

• 01:45:526 - 01:47:908 - clickable

• 01:48:614 (4,1,2) - same spacing issue as 00:38:643 (3,1,2,3) -

---

So I modded the rest of the map and I lost what i wrote :( So I'll give a rundown of what I said about this map for the mod and if you'd like, you can hmu in-game if you want me to go more in-depth or give more specifics for the part i lost (i have a screenshot tho lol https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5738596). I feel like this map can use work on 2 things to make the map fit better with the song: Rhythm and structure.

Rhythm: In this map you use a lot of rhythms that dont pace with the song, and turn out feeling basic and under exaggerated. 01:30:790 (1,2,1,2,3) - is an example of what I'm talking about here. There is a rhythm on that first sliderend that could be clicked for this difficulty, so the song feels faster paced then the difficulty, not to mention the clickable rhythm at 01:31:232 - . Some other examples not shown in the mod above include your choice of rhythm over the drum pattern at 03:44:555 (1,2,3) - and the same thing with the saws at 03:53:732 (1,2,1) - . Also for this part, 03:55:849 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - the rhythm here feels pretty copy pasted over this dynamic melody here.

I had this sort of problem too; I don't know if this was similar to any technique you may be using but still-- I would envision the patterns i would use before I applied them too the song. But it really should be the other way around; you apply your pattern ideas after you analyze what the song has to offer (being careful not to over/undermap, etc.)

Structure: This one is a bit more broad and can become a subjective topic if you go out on a limb so I'll try to speak basics because I know that you know how to make it work. Structure is the way objects visually coincide with eachother. Your weird sliders are okay and actually cool; it's a stylistic prefrence. But one important thing is knowing where to put them in comparison to the rest of the map to make it work. Take 03:47:732 (3,1,2,1,2) - for an example. THe fact that you use transformation tools to copy/psate a single slider on 03:48:084 (1,2,1,2) - is great! That makes those 2 combos look good. When we look with the rest of the map, 03:48:084 (1,2) - this combo isnt spaced as much as 3 and 1,2 are form eachother at 03:47:732 (3,1,2) - . Also, you have a big gap in between 03:48:261 (2,1) - compared to 03:48:084 (1,2) - . Objects touching also can interfere with this, like at 03:56:026 (2,1,1,2) - and 03:59:732 (1,3) - . (Keep in mind that some overlaps can be okay, though, like 04:02:908 (1,2) - ). It's just laying down a cleaner foundation of the map, is what it is. You can find a general thread about this at http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/5223618.

So that above was basically what i modded for in a couple paragaphs, but feel free to catch me in game if you have more questions about what i said specifically about some patterns in some parts, or anything.

Good luck! :)
teshro
4 posts
Joined September 2013
teshro
hey brother! M4M 8-)

mod
Combo colours 1,2, and 3 are very similar in color, especially numbers one and two and its hard to see when the combo changes. Its just a pet peeve of mine but you could easily just better split them up with the brown and black combo colours
00:42:349 (2) - feels off
01:18:437 (2) - doesnt go with song
01:48:790 (1) - make this longer
02:08:202 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - the streth in the stream feels wierd here
02:08:555 (5,6,7) - 02:08:555 (5,6,7) - add another slider? the 6 feels out of place
02:12:349 (2,3) - has the same shape as 02:11:820 (3,4) - but doesnt make the same sound in the song as it
02:36:084 (1,2,3,4) - just put a slider here in stead of starting the stream early so it fits to the song
03:38:202 (2,1) - put a note on the beat between these
04:41:996 (4,5,6,7,8) - pretty confusing loop
04:55:143 (2) - move this to the left and increase size
04:59:908 (3,4) - this feels wierd
05:11:555 (2,1) - note between these
05:12:261 (1,2) - ^
silento
298 posts
Joined June 2015
Topic Starter
silento
Heyo, my mod will be done quite soon for your map.
Agree and disagree are what I'm going to be using here.

teshro wrote:

hey brother! M4M 8-)

Combo colours 1,2, and 3 are very similar in color, especially numbers one and two and its hard to see when the combo changes. Its just a pet peeve of mine but you could easily just better split them up with the brown and black combo colours

00:42:349 (2) - feels off Added a short 1/8 repeat slider to make it fit.
01:18:437 (2) - doesnt go with song This part made me realize that the entire slow part is actually 1/3, so I'm fixing it.
01:48:790 (1) - make this longer Timeline wise? If so, I agree.
02:08:202 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - the streth in the stream feels wierd here
02:08:555 (5,6,7) - 02:08:555 (5,6,7) - add another slider? the 6 feels out of place Your slider suggestion fixed the stream stretch as well.
02:12:349 (2,3) - has the same shape as 02:11:820 (3,4) - but doesnt make the same sound in the song as it
Legitimate mistake now that I look at it. 02:11:820 (3,4) - has a strong note sound on 02:11:996 -; control g fixed that. Ended up tweaking 02:12:084 (1,2,3,4) - note placement here as well.
02:36:084 (1,2,3,4) - just put a slider here in stead of starting the stream early so it fits to the song Agree, but its actually 2 sliders so that there's an even transition between the drum beats into the stream. I also control h'd the sliders and did note placement adjustments as well to compliment the sliders I've added.
03:38:202 (2,1) - put a note on the beat between these Clickable circle doesn't quite fit the idea that I'm going for here.
04:41:996 (4,5,6,7,8) - pretty confusing loop There's a sharp change in the music around the 4 beat which the stream bend calls for imo.
04:55:143 (2) - move this to the left and increase size Applied.
04:59:908 (3,4) - this feels wierd I know why it felt weird; because I wasn't consistent in my own rules at that part (ending on white/red ticks). Fixed, thanks for catching.
05:11:555 (2,1) - note between these
05:12:261 (1,2) - ^
05:09:261 - to 05:13:849 - (even possibly to 05:14:732 - ) is very messy and is getting completely remapped
Thanks for the mod, it helped immensely!
Ideal
Nomination Assessment Team
627 posts
Joined January 2014
Ideal
log
2016-08-13 16:08 TheArchist: ay
2016-08-13 16:09 Idealism: taking a quick look at the start
2016-08-13 16:09 Idealism: 00:08:555 (1) - this is slightly offscreen
2016-08-13 16:11 Idealism: 00:34:143 (1,2,3) - here, 00:35:555 (1,2,3) - here and 00:36:084 (1,2,3) - I don't see why these are triples, I think doubles would be more fitting
2016-08-13 16:12 TheArchist: 00:34:143 (1,2,3) - is actually a triple i checked multiple times
2016-08-13 16:13 TheArchist: i believe they're all triples but i'll need to double check
2016-08-13 16:13 Idealism: 00:34:673 (1,2) - then this should be a triple for the sake of consistency (and also because if that's a triple, since that's the exact same beat as here, then it would only make sense this was a triple aswell
2016-08-13 16:13 Idealism: )
2016-08-13 16:14 TheArchist: applied
2016-08-13 16:14 Idealism: 00:43:143 (7) - why is this so far away from the rest of the stream, even though it's mapped as is it was the first note of the stream?
2016-08-13 16:15 Idealism: I mean, just look at this http://puu.sh/qA8yQ/4e6bdee246.jpg
2016-08-13 16:16 TheArchist: control g mishap huh
2016-08-13 16:16 TheArchist: explains why i was missing all of those
2016-08-13 16:16 Idealism: lol
2016-08-13 16:16 Idealism: rip
2016-08-13 16:16 Idealism: as if*
2016-08-13 16:16 Idealism: just noticed the error
2016-08-13 16:16 Idealism: zz
2016-08-13 16:16 TheArchist: nah i had it proper before last update
2016-08-13 16:17 Idealism: then you probably messed something up there
2016-08-13 16:17 Idealism: aha
2016-08-13 16:18 Idealism: 01:01:320 (1,2,3,4,5) - I think you could apply one more note at 01:02:114 - and connect with the slider at 01:02:202 (1)
2016-08-13 16:18 TheArchist: originally was a 1/4 jump but i decided that i wanted to kill most of them with fire
2016-08-13 16:18 Idealism: http://puu.sh/qA8KM/c7dd8e1770.jpg something like this maybe
2016-08-13 16:19 TheArchist: actually i might use that
2016-08-13 16:19 Idealism: it makes more sense with the music since you can hear 5 of these beats, not 4 (the way it's currently mapped has 4 notes for that stream, not 5)
2016-08-13 16:20 TheArchist: ye thats changed now though
2016-08-13 16:20 TheArchist: 01:01:320 (1) - gonna rework this too then
2016-08-13 16:20 Idealism: I just flipped it 180 degrees
2016-08-13 16:21 Idealism: 01:07:849 (1) - once again, too far from the stream yet mapped as one of the notes of the stream
2016-08-13 16:21 TheArchist: might just do 270 degrees on the slider, but i'll mess with it a bit
2016-08-13 16:22 TheArchist: imo that one is fine considering you play that slider like an ending singletap
2016-08-13 16:23 TheArchist: 01:07:673 (19) - this that is
2016-08-13 16:23 Idealism: hmm
2016-08-13 16:23 Idealism: true
2016-08-13 16:23 TheArchist: it sounded very wrong when i had a circle there, so just a lone slider there
2016-08-13 16:24 Idealism: 01:20:908 (2,3) - did you map this to a VERY faint sound?
2016-08-13 16:24 Idealism: if not a double seems fitting
2016-08-13 16:26 TheArchist: its to ensure a better transition into the parts where its pretty solidly staying on the white and red ticks
2016-08-13 16:26 TheArchist: playing it complimented the part more from what i played
2016-08-13 16:26 Idealism: understandable, just seems weird that there isn't really a 1/2 beat there
2016-08-13 16:27 Idealism: 01:29:996 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - maybe a bit less spacing? not much though
2016-08-13 16:28 Idealism: 01:34:320 (2,3,4,5) - like the spacing you used here, not too cl0se but not too far either
2016-08-13 16:29 TheArchist: yeah probably, maybe a curve from the previous slider
2016-08-13 16:30 TheArchist: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5838532 how about this?
2016-08-13 16:30 Idealism: looks good
2016-08-13 16:31 Idealism: 01:49:143 (2,3) - increase spacing from 1 to 2 and from 2 to 3 I guess, but once again not too much
2016-08-13 16:32 TheArchist: imo that makes the sliders later that slight bit harder to reach considering 1/4 jump
2016-08-13 16:33 TheArchist: 01:52:232 (8,9,10,11,12) - oops i turned into priti imma stop that i think
2016-08-13 16:33 Idealism: YEAH LOL
2016-08-13 16:33 Idealism: I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THAT IT'S WAY TOO SPACED
2016-08-13 16:33 TheArchist: spacing was fine before i added the sliders
2016-08-13 16:34 TheArchist: i wanted to represent the background sound but oh well, its better if i dont do that lo
2016-08-13 16:34 Idealism: I mean, the sliders being way too spaced is overkill lol
2016-08-13 16:34 Idealism: the pattern itself isn't that bada
2016-08-13 16:34 Idealism: bad
2016-08-13 16:35 TheArchist: it was purely to represent the background music but it does kill playability
2016-08-13 16:35 Idealism: yep
2016-08-13 16:35 Idealism: also if you decide to keep the sliders, 01:52:232 (8) - would be better as a circle
2016-08-13 16:36 TheArchist: i axed all of those sliders for circles
2016-08-13 16:37 Idealism: 02:15:614 (1) - too spaced from the last note of the stream
2016-08-13 16:39 Idealism: 02:44:908 (8,9) - add an extra repeat on 8 and make 9 closer to it
2016-08-13 16:39 TheArchist: 02:15:614 (1,2,3) - reworked slider and spaced the 2 + 3 accordingly
2016-08-13 16:39 Idealism: aight
2016-08-13 16:40 TheArchist: 1/4 jump there is cruel imo
2016-08-13 16:40 Idealism: which is why I suggested to make it closer
2016-08-13 16:40 TheArchist: also this is another part where its far better to leave notes and ends on white + red ticks
2016-08-13 16:40 Idealism: and you also did the same thing here 02:56:555 (3) -
2016-08-13 16:41 TheArchist: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5838615 did this and will prob do something similar for that one
2016-08-13 16:42 TheArchist: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5838622 so kinda similar, not really
2016-08-13 16:43 Idealism: looks good
2016-08-13 16:43 Idealism: 03:07:496 (1,2) - s a m e t h i n g
2016-08-13 16:44 Idealism: 03:15:967 (1,2,3) - put a 4th note, connect with the slider right after
2016-08-13 16:45 TheArchist: applied
2016-08-13 16:45 Idealism: 03:18:790 (1,2,3) - same as above
2016-08-13 16:46 Idealism: 03:30:673 (2) - why is this on 1/6 LOL
2016-08-13 16:46 Idealism: 03:29:261 (2) - ^
2016-08-13 16:47 TheArchist: ok for that whole section im bad
2016-08-13 16:47 TheArchist: i reverted from 1/2 to 1/6, realized it didn't work
2016-08-13 16:47 TheArchist: *changed from
2016-08-13 16:47 Idealism: yeah, that whole section has 1/6 stuff
2016-08-13 16:47 Idealism: lol
2016-08-13 16:47 TheArchist: but i only remembered first part damn im good at this
2016-08-13 16:48 Idealism: 03:23:820 (1) - 03:23:849 (1) - 03:25:026 (2) - 03:26:437 (2) - 03:27:849 (2) - 03:29:261 (2) - 03:30:673 (2) - 03:32:084 (2,1) - 03:33:496 (2) -
2016-08-13 16:48 Idealism: all of the 1/6 notes
2016-08-13 16:50 Idealism: 03:54:437 (1,2,3,4) - I'm fine with two stacks instead of this patterns, this looks ugly + breaks playability
2016-08-13 16:50 TheArchist: 03:34:050 - placing a note here and making 2+3 a short slider
2016-08-13 16:50 Idealism: mm yeah, seems good
2016-08-13 16:51 TheArchist: ok how about changing snap here instead? 03:54:437 (1,2,3,4) -
2016-08-13 16:52 Idealism: http://puu.sh/qAawv/a73a173211.jpg you could do this instead
2016-08-13 16:52 Idealism: like you did in the other stackstreams at the start of the map
2016-08-13 16:53 Idealism: 04:07:849 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - reduce spacing between both sliderstreams
2016-08-13 16:55 Idealism: 04:16:760 (4) - OFFSCREEN NOTE
2016-08-13 16:56 TheArchist: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5838711 did that
2016-08-13 16:56 TheArchist: 04:07:849 (1,2,3,4) - moved right
2016-08-13 16:56 Idealism: gucci
2016-08-13 16:56 TheArchist: 04:16:760 (4) - aimod disagrees on this strangely
2016-08-13 16:57 Idealism: [http://puu.sh/qAaNF/5e5174c475.jpg it clearly goes offscreen as you can see here, that's weird]
2016-08-13 16:58 TheArchist: offscreen on editor isn't offscreen on your playfield
2016-08-13 16:58 TheArchist: just saw test do it and its a not being weird
2016-08-13 16:58 TheArchist: but i might as well fix the snap there anyway
2016-08-13 16:59 Idealism: weird
2016-08-13 17:00 Idealism: 04:44:908 (3,4) and 04:50:555 (1,2) - sliders?
2016-08-13 17:01 TheArchist: yes i make cute birdie sliders
2016-08-13 17:01 Idealism: 05:09:437 (1,2) - double
2016-08-13 17:02 Idealism: 05:06:614 (2,3,4) - 05:07:142 (2,3,4) - doubles aa
2016-08-13 17:02 Idealism: 05:09:967 (1,2,3) - d o u b l e
2016-08-13 17:02 TheArchist: fixed
2016-08-13 17:02 Idealism: 05:16:143 (4) - this is just way too confusing
2016-08-13 17:03 Idealism: move this somewhere else
2016-08-13 17:03 Idealism: but please
2016-08-13 17:03 Idealism: don't put that on the sliderend because it's way too confusing
2016-08-13 17:03 TheArchist: not there and fixed
2016-08-13 17:03 TheArchist: i put it on the slider beginning
2016-08-13 17:03 Idealism: good
2016-08-13 17:04 Idealism: that's pretty much it
2016-08-13 17:04 TheArchist: ok post in thread for free kudosu lo
2016-08-13 17:04 Idealism: also you might wanna have ar9,5 and od9 for this
2016-08-13 17:04 Idealism: idk
2016-08-13 17:04 Idealism: Xd
2016-08-13 17:04 TheArchist: od8.5 is practically perfect imo
2016-08-13 17:05 TheArchist: 9.5 was too high from what i heard from others
2016-08-13 17:05 Idealism: yet it's ar9.4
2016-08-13 17:05 Idealism: pretty much a 15ms difference
2016-08-13 17:05 Idealism: or 30
2016-08-13 17:05 Idealism: idk xdddd
2016-08-13 17:05 TheArchist: i put it at ar9.350 but editor hated me =((
2016-08-13 17:05 Idealism: lmfao
2016-08-13 17:06 Idealism: but ye xd thats the mod
2016-08-13 17:06 Idealism: it took so long for me to actually get around to it
2016-08-13 17:06 Idealism: but i'm glad my mom is sleeping rn
2016-08-13 17:06 TheArchist: fuck it lets just keep it at 9.5
2016-08-13 17:06 TheArchist: and yes thanks friend
2016-08-13 17:06 Idealism: lol
2016-08-13 17:06 Idealism: np
Dilozy
13 posts
Joined September 2014
Dilozy
Hello
I like this map at all,but there is a space for improvement
00:12:702 (4) - i think you should delete this slider, add 1 note and stack it with this -00:12:790 (1) under this sliderend- 00:12:437 (3) because its very unplesant to read and play
01:09:261 (1,2,1,2) - i think this should be rework by, maybe ,2 reverse sliders,but it just advice
01:12:084 (1,2,1,2) - ^same
01:13:496 (1,2,1,2) - ^
01:15:790 (1,2) - this sliders are following to very awkward rhythm,i think you can improve it
01:18:525 (2,1) - start stream by drum beat and NC it's a very bad idea,i think it should be rework
01:32:202 (2,3,1) - i think you should make spacing bigger than now,because it's 01:32:555 (1) very close to previous slider and 01:32:202 (2,1) bad overlap
03:13:849 (1) - this slider following to weird rhythm in my opinion
03:23:379 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - as previous"bridge" part it's felling very awkward
03:27:849 (2,3) - ^same awkward
03:41:732 (1) -you can make a triple here
03:42:967 (2) - you should delete it and start stream here by 1/6 or 1/8 kickslider,i think it will be good
03:44:555 (1) - you should rework this note,this spacing is very big
that's all
GL on ranking!
silento
298 posts
Joined June 2015
Topic Starter
silento
Thank you for commenting, I appreciate all the help I can get!
Agree and disagree are what I'm going to be using here.

Degard wrote:

Hello
I like this map at all,but there is a space for improvement
00:12:702 (4) - i think you should delete this slider, add 1 note and stack it with this -00:12:790 (1) under this sliderend- 00:12:437 (3) because its very unplesant to read and play Agree, but I actually think that 00:12:790 (1) - was the problem so I ended up just deleting that.

01:09:261 (1,2,1,2) - i think this should be rework by, maybe ,2 reverse sliders,but it just advice
01:12:084 (1,2,1,2) - ^same
01:13:496 (1,2,1,2) - ^

I wanted to preserve the "hit hit" nature of this section but I will certainly consider this suggestion as it may solve some of the note placement and aim issues here. I'll playtest it a bit more and see.

01:15:790 (1,2) - this sliders are following to very awkward rhythm,i think you can improve it I just removed these and replaced with a 5 note burst because the sounds there are much stronger than I realized.

01:18:525 (2,1) - start stream by drum beat and NC it's a very bad idea,i think it should be rework Changed NC.

01:32:202 (2,3,1) - i think you should make spacing bigger than now,because it's 01:32:555 (1) very close to previous slider and 01:32:202 (2,1) bad overlap Applied.

03:13:849 (1) - this slider following to weird rhythm in my opinion I agree since most of this part focuses on the strong sounds ending on white and red ticks. I completely ignored this, which created the weird rhythm.

03:23:379 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - as previous"bridge" part it's felling very awkward
03:27:849 (2,3) - ^same awkward

Resnapped notes back to 1/4 in that section alongside small tweaks

03:41:732 (1) -you can make a triple here
03:42:967 (2) - you should delete it and start stream here by 1/6 or 1/8 kickslider,i think it will be good

I disagree since I'm using that section to build up using the drums in the background to the streams and eventually to the slider section after. Following a strong line on the white and red ticks is how I hope to accomplish this, which is why I disagree with these points.

03:44:555 (1) - you should rework this note,this spacing is very big Fixed.

that's all
GL on ranking! Thank you for the mod, much appreciated!
KKipalt
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KKipalt
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a wild mod has appeared
2016-09-08 19:19 KKipalt: woo
2016-09-08 19:19 TheArchist: yeah
2016-09-08 19:19 TheArchist: ?
2016-09-08 19:19 TheArchist: alright start from the top
2016-09-08 19:20 KKipalt: 00:02:202 (1) - stack?
2016-09-08 19:20 TheArchist: meant to be uneven
2016-09-08 19:20 TheArchist: looks ugly if it was perfect imo
2016-09-08 19:20 KKipalt: wat about space more
2016-09-08 19:20 TheArchist: even worse
2016-09-08 19:20 TheArchist: i had to settle with something just right
2016-09-08 19:21 KKipalt: also seems like there a few of these 00:01:143 (3,4) - 
2016-09-08 19:21 KKipalt: non parallel parts
2016-09-08 19:21 TheArchist: spacing wise?
2016-09-08 19:21 TheArchist: or just actually not parallel
2016-09-08 19:21 KKipalt: not straight
2016-09-08 19:22 TheArchist: fixed i think
2016-09-08 19:22 TheArchist: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6048310
2016-09-08 19:22 TheArchist: i assure you thats parallel
2016-09-08 19:22 KKipalt: i ment straight
2016-09-08 19:22 TheArchist: just screencap and show me i guess
2016-09-08 19:23 KKipalt: http://puu.sh/r4O49/4ffb4fdd8e.jpg
2016-09-08 19:24 TheArchist: fuckin art right there
2016-09-08 19:24 TheArchist: also nah not gonna change it
2016-09-08 19:24 KKipalt: quite a few parts are like that
2016-09-08 19:24 KKipalt: u might wanna look into them
2016-09-08 19:24 KKipalt: also 00:09:261 (1,2,3) - 
2016-09-08 19:25 TheArchist: sliderheads not making a perfect triangle or what
2016-09-08 19:25 KKipalt: thats not the main thing
2016-09-08 19:26 KKipalt: http://puu.sh/r4Ocx/8c697b4523.jpg
2016-09-08 19:26 TheArchist: oooh i see
2016-09-08 19:26 TheArchist: changed
2016-09-08 19:26 KKipalt: 00:11:379 (1) - ment to be non red point?
2016-09-08 19:26 TheArchist: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6048332 somewhat like this?
2016-09-08 19:27 KKipalt: that sorta works
2016-09-08 19:27 TheArchist: i'll fix it a bit because my grid snap is on
2016-09-08 19:27 KKipalt: i kinda like equilateral stuff but u know
2016-09-08 19:27 TheArchist: also yes meant to be non red point
2016-09-08 19:27 KKipalt: not everyone likes them
2016-09-08 19:27 TheArchist: meh that part could benefit from it
2016-09-08 19:27 TheArchist: good suggestion tbh
2016-09-08 19:28 KKipalt: 00:15:967 (2) - imo repeat shud face down without blanket
2016-09-08 19:28 KKipalt: http://puu.sh/r4OmC/9af7c321a4.jpg not a big fan
2016-09-08 19:29 TheArchist: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6048343 this work?
2016-09-08 19:29 KKipalt: ctrl h and replace id say
2016-09-08 19:29 TheArchist: as for 00:16:320 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - its my only way to express the music
2016-09-08 19:30 TheArchist: ie, the four techno sounds being distinct from each other
2016-09-08 19:30 TheArchist: but making the same motion to play
2016-09-08 19:30 TheArchist: boring stream is boring
2016-09-08 19:30 KKipalt: its also quite spaced compared to next stream xd
2016-09-08 19:31 TheArchist: not entirely
2016-09-08 19:31 TheArchist: however i might make that part with less snap
2016-09-08 19:31 TheArchist: *resnap ds
2016-09-08 19:31 KKipalt: 00:21:967 (1,2,3) - 
2016-09-08 19:32 KKipalt: http://puu.sh/r4OCH/5cd318acb1.jpg
2016-09-08 19:32 KKipalt: i sugg something like this
2016-09-08 19:33 TheArchist: makes it more vertical i suppose
2016-09-08 19:33 TheArchist: hmm
2016-09-08 19:33 TheArchist: ye why not
2016-09-08 19:34 KKipalt: 00:26:555 (1) - top curve parallel with next combo's 1
2016-09-08 19:35 KKipalt: 00:32:202 (6) - looks pretty dam outta place lo
2016-09-08 19:35 TheArchist: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6048364 its a bit hard to eyeball
2016-09-08 19:35 KKipalt: id temporarly move it there to check
2016-09-08 19:36 TheArchist: ok its better now
2016-09-08 19:36 KKipalt: 00:29:732 (1,2,3) - 
2016-09-08 19:37 KKipalt: http://puu.sh/r4OV9/e522c42203.jpg
2016-09-08 19:38 TheArchist: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6048376 readjusted snap
2016-09-08 19:38 KKipalt: kk
2016-09-08 19:38 KKipalt: 00:35:379 (1,1,2,3,1,1,2,3) -  should b slightly different from first set imo
2016-09-08 19:38 TheArchist: ipalt
2016-09-08 19:39 KKipalt: 00:37:849 (5) - lo blanket nazi 2k16
2016-09-08 19:39 TheArchist: can't think of any immediate changes in that part, but i'll consider it
2016-09-08 19:39 TheArchist: fug
2016-09-08 19:40 TheArchist: done
2016-09-08 19:40 TheArchist: sorta
2016-09-08 19:40 TheArchist: i cant tell
2016-09-08 19:40 TheArchist: rip
2016-09-08 19:41 KKipalt: 00:38:202 (1,2,3) - http://puu.sh/r4P8x/3451ae1286.jpg
2016-09-08 19:41 KKipalt: i think that beat pattern fits better
2016-09-08 19:41 KKipalt: aka made some drums clickable
2016-09-08 19:42 KKipalt: 00:14:202 (1,2,3) - sounds off i forgot to mention
2016-09-08 19:42 TheArchist: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6048389 people gonna hate me for this but uh this maybe?
2016-09-08 19:43 KKipalt: lo dat spacing
2016-09-08 19:43 KKipalt: sure i guess
2016-09-08 19:43 KKipalt: storytime might not agree lo
2016-09-08 19:44 TheArchist: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6048396 changed
2016-09-08 19:45 KKipalt: 00:50:026 (6) - the circles shud be spaced more imo
2016-09-08 19:45 KKipalt: 00:58:849 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - i like bacon 
2016-09-08 19:45 KKipalt: ^wat is dat spacing
2016-09-08 19:46 TheArchist: 00:50:026 (6) - is not meant to be hard part
2016-09-08 19:46 TheArchist: reworked
2016-09-08 19:46 TheArchist: already
2016-09-08 19:46 KKipalt: like the sliders after the long sliders
2016-09-08 19:46 KKipalt: are spaced quite a bit
2016-09-08 19:46 KKipalt: but the circles arent spaced 
2016-09-08 19:46 KKipalt: 01:02:732 (2) - possible blanket here
2016-09-08 19:47 TheArchist: kip are you my mom
2016-09-08 19:47 KKipalt: yes
2016-09-08 19:47 TheArchist: =(
2016-09-08 19:47 KKipalt: 01:07:055 (12,13,14,15,16,17,18) - the stream starting from here looks pretty funny lo
2016-09-08 19:48 TheArchist: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6048414close enough
2016-09-08 19:48 TheArchist: close enough
2016-09-08 19:48 TheArchist: also you mean the curve or something?
2016-09-08 19:48 KKipalt: yeh
2016-09-08 19:48 TheArchist: fuck azer
2016-09-08 19:49 TheArchist: readjusted the snap there
2016-09-08 19:49 KKipalt: 01:07:849 (1,2,1,2) - imo it played pretty well but its 3/4 lo
2016-09-08 19:49 TheArchist: explain or something
2016-09-08 19:50 TheArchist: because im bad
2016-09-08 19:50 TheArchist: screenshot will do tbh
2016-09-08 19:50 KKipalt: 3/4 = not normal reading rhym
2016-09-08 19:50 KKipalt: i cant spel
2016-09-08 19:50 KKipalt: its a sudden change
2016-09-08 19:50 KKipalt: basically
2016-09-08 19:51 TheArchist: yeah i get that
2016-09-08 19:51 TheArchist: but uh explain what im missing when you say 3/4
2016-09-08 19:51 KKipalt: http://puu.sh/r4PJ9/1a090510c8.jpg
2016-09-08 19:51 TheArchist: i uh
2016-09-08 19:51 TheArchist: think i fixed that
2016-09-08 19:52 KKipalt: 01:10:320 (1,2,3) - wiw triplets
2016-09-08 19:52 KKipalt: the one part with triplets keepo
2016-09-08 19:52 TheArchist: already reworked
2016-09-08 19:52 KKipalt: o i guess i wont talk much about this section then lo
2016-09-08 19:53 TheArchist: keep talking actually
2016-09-08 19:53 TheArchist: i think i missed a bunch of things
2016-09-08 19:53 KKipalt: 01:11:732 (1,2,3) - 
2016-09-08 19:53 KKipalt: .
2016-09-08 19:53 KKipalt: sorta half overlaps with 2 other things
2016-09-08 19:53 KKipalt: and it looks reaaaalllly strange
2016-09-08 19:53 TheArchist: intentional
2016-09-08 19:53 KKipalt: 01:12:879 (2,1,2) - i think im ocd
2016-09-08 19:54 TheArchist: no im ocd
2016-09-08 19:54 KKipalt: 01:14:908 (1,2,1,2) - music sounds slightly different
2016-09-08 19:54 KKipalt: so i suggest kiksliders?
2016-09-08 19:54 KKipalt: im not so sure about this sug lo
2016-09-08 19:55 TheArchist: yeah i changed it to that
2016-09-08 19:55 KKipalt: ill try not to mention anymore equilateral things lo
2016-09-08 19:56 KKipalt: 01:18:525 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 5678 shud b adjusted up for a smoother curv i think
2016-09-08 19:57 KKipalt: 01:24:084 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - idk if intentional messy
2016-09-08 19:58 KKipalt: 01:24:790 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - angle changes are way too random
2016-09-08 19:58 TheArchist: first intentional, second not really
2016-09-08 19:58 TheArchist: also yes third is bad
2016-09-08 19:59 KKipalt: 01:26:202 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - u forgot to eyeball the spacing http://puu.sh/r4Q8e/02911ab856.jpg
2016-09-08 19:59 KKipalt: 01:28:320 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - weird curve imo
2016-09-08 20:00 TheArchist: curve plays as intended
2016-09-08 20:01 TheArchist: also believe it or not
2016-09-08 20:01 TheArchist: the spacing is the same
2016-09-08 20:02 TheArchist: its the slider thats fucking perception
2016-09-08 20:02 KKipalt: http://puu.sh/r4QhM/621e37ff4f.jpg
2016-09-08 20:02 KKipalt: this is what id map probs
2016-09-08 20:02 TheArchist: i like the smoother aim up imo
2016-09-08 20:02 TheArchist: i'll keep it as is
2016-09-08 20:03 TheArchist: also i fucked up 01:29:379 -
2016-09-08 20:03 TheArchist: kickslider + jump is better
2016-09-08 20:03 KKipalt: 01:29:996 (1) - after this looks a lot better than b4 that imo
2016-09-08 20:04 KKipalt: 01:33:790 (3) - mum tells u that u shud always keep ur blanket on :^)
2016-09-08 20:04 TheArchist: alright
2016-09-08 20:04 TheArchist: .
2016-09-08 20:04 TheArchist: ... fine
2016-09-08 20:04 KKipalt: 01:34:673 (1,2,3) - intentionally spaced differently from the 1st 2
2016-09-08 20:04 KKipalt: ?
2016-09-08 20:05 TheArchist: they're the same afaik
2016-09-08 20:05 TheArchist: osu does ds with sliders by heads and tails
2016-09-08 20:05 KKipalt: they look different
2016-09-08 20:05 KKipalt: osu calcs sr with slider heds tho i think
2016-09-08 20:05 TheArchist: sr is different from ds
2016-09-08 20:05 TheArchist: =^)
2016-09-08 20:06 KKipalt: http://puu.sh/r4QuC/981dbdb8e3.jpg
2016-09-08 20:06 KKipalt: i mean this
2016-09-08 20:06 KKipalt: btw
2016-09-08 20:07 TheArchist: i mean yeah thats intentional
2016-09-08 20:07 KKipalt: o 
2016-09-08 20:07 KKipalt: 01:38:555 (1,2) - bottom 2
2016-09-08 20:07 KKipalt: already clustered af
2016-09-08 20:07 KKipalt: middle
2016-09-08 20:07 KKipalt: id say space more and move down
2016-09-08 20:07 KKipalt: to keep symetri
2016-09-08 20:08 KKipalt: 01:42:437 (1,2) - the sliders
2016-09-08 20:08 KKipalt: imo one of them should face a different way from the other
2016-09-08 20:09 KKipalt: or at least on of them is straight ish
2016-09-08 20:09 TheArchist: might just redo that small section entirely
2016-09-08 20:09 KKipalt: yeh
2016-09-08 20:10 KKipalt: 01:51:614 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - why so centered :<
2016-09-08 20:10 KKipalt: also not exactly fully circular
2016-09-08 20:11 KKipalt: 02:05:732 (1) - seems outta place
2016-09-08 20:11 KKipalt: imo it should at least look sorta like 02:07:143 (1) - 
2016-09-08 20:13 KKipalt: 02:12:790 (1) - starting here i hear an instrument thats extremely noticable, just gonna point that out
2016-09-08 20:14 KKipalt: 02:20:555 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - doesnt sound like triples
2016-09-08 20:15 TheArchist: not fully circluar but i placed it out of aim
2016-09-08 20:15 KKipalt: 02:34:673 (1,2,3,4) - ther so close to to each other lo
2016-09-08 20:16 TheArchist: 02:05:732 (1) - changed
2016-09-08 20:16 TheArchist: 02:12:790 (1) - wante dto follow wubs, so not changing this
2016-09-08 20:16 TheArchist: maybe placement/shape tho
2016-09-08 20:17 TheArchist: so i leave it in 1/4
2016-09-08 20:17 TheArchist: 02:20:555 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 1/8 but its bitch to play as 1/8
2016-09-08 20:18 TheArchist: 02:34:673 - im changing this
2016-09-08 20:18 KKipalt: kick stream thing?
2016-09-08 20:18 TheArchist: which part
2016-09-08 20:18 KKipalt: for 2:20
2016-09-08 20:18 TheArchist: like i did earlier in the map
2016-09-08 20:18 TheArchist: i mean eh
2016-09-08 20:18 TheArchist: idk
2016-09-08 20:19 KKipalt: 02:36:437 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - neat stream 
2016-09-08 20:19 TheArchist: is it really neat
2016-09-08 20:19 KKipalt: well sorta
2016-09-08 20:19 KKipalt: its pretty neat compared to most other streams imo
2016-09-08 20:20 KKipalt: 02:47:732 (1,2) - kick slider really sudden
2016-09-08 20:21 TheArchist: its sudden but its not been an issue for people sightreading the map
2016-09-08 20:21 KKipalt: 02:54:614 (1,2,3,4) - for some reason this one doesnt feel all that sudden lo
2016-09-08 20:21 TheArchist: everyone ive seen has not broke there
2016-09-08 20:21 KKipalt: its sorta an easy part
2016-09-08 20:21 KKipalt: idk maybe change if u get another suggestion on there from someone better than me i guess
2016-09-08 20:22 TheArchist: 03:00:790 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - thoughts?
2016-09-08 20:22 KKipalt: im fine with it
2016-09-08 20:22 KKipalt: as in i like the pattern
2016-09-08 20:22 KKipalt: idk if it might cause problems
2016-09-08 20:22 KKipalt: i mean
2016-09-08 20:23 KKipalt: its 1/1 straight from 1/2
2016-09-08 20:23 TheArchist: trying to follow the soft taps but idk if its working
2016-09-08 20:24 KKipalt: 03:00:084 (4) - fun fact about me
2016-09-08 20:24 KKipalt: i dont like repeats that have mmore than 3
2016-09-08 20:24 KKipalt: most of the time
2016-09-08 20:24 TheArchist: or rather
2016-09-08 20:24 TheArchist: you dont like when they end on blue ticks
2016-09-08 20:24 TheArchist: lemme guess
2016-09-08 20:24 KKipalt: naw im fine its just
2016-09-08 20:25 KKipalt: i think that part should be 4 singles and 1 repeat 
2016-09-08 20:25 KKipalt: not 1 2x repeat and 3 singles
2016-09-08 20:25 KKipalt: know what i mean?
2016-09-08 20:26 KKipalt: im fine with things like this tho 03:07:496 (1) -  for what ever reason
2016-09-08 20:26 KKipalt: 03:15:967 (1) - starting around here probs increase spacing to prepare for upcoming stream
2016-09-08 20:27 KKipalt: song seems to have cresendo here
2016-09-08 20:27 KKipalt: 03:20:202 (2,3) - tbh u think ctrl g feels like it plays better
2016-09-08 20:28 KKipalt: 03:26:732 (3) -  spacing ds
2016-09-08 20:28 TheArchist: 03:07:496 (1) - youre fine with this because the aim supports moving down into 2
2016-09-08 20:29 TheArchist: 03:15:967 (1) - from here i honestly should increase the ds ye
2016-09-08 20:29 TheArchist: 03:20:202 (2,3) - no not really, i think its fine as is
2016-09-08 20:29 TheArchist: prob some slight placement readjustment
2016-09-08 20:29 KKipalt: reason for suggestion is cus
2016-09-08 20:29 KKipalt: stream after is right next to kick slider
2016-09-08 20:30 TheArchist: maybe control g on the 3 slider then
2016-09-08 20:30 TheArchist: yeah control g on 3 slider is better
2016-09-08 20:30 KKipalt: o lol i forgot ctrl g also made sliders reverse them selves
2016-09-08 20:30 KKipalt: lo
2016-09-08 20:30 KKipalt: i ment swap 2 with 3 on timeline
2016-09-08 20:30 KKipalt: xd
2016-09-08 20:31 TheArchist: fucking kip
2016-09-08 20:31 TheArchist: also meh on swapping 2 and 3
2016-09-08 20:32 TheArchist: motion seems cool but imo it should be a simpler triangle
2016-09-08 20:32 TheArchist: but i'll actually play map tomorrow and decide
2016-09-08 20:32 KKipalt: 03:28:320 (4,1,2,3) - more anglalarueurar
2016-09-08 20:32 KKipalt: i cant spellllllll
2016-09-08 20:32 KKipalt: AAAAA
2016-09-08 20:33 TheArchist: yes i agree
2016-09-08 20:33 KKipalt: 03:31:408 (2) - move up for triangle with previous slider head and end cus im being ocd agen
2016-09-08 20:34 KKipalt: 03:34:055 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Question: why is there a random large 1/4 gap lo
2016-09-08 20:34 TheArchist: already fixed
2016-09-08 20:35 KKipalt:  03:40:320 (1) - http://puu.sh/r4RWU/83f67ef57d.jpg
2016-09-08 20:35 KKipalt: the fact theres nothing there on my yello line triggers my mind for whatever reason
2016-09-08 20:36 TheArchist: intentional
2016-09-08 20:36 KKipalt: 03:45:967 (1) - woo fave part starts now
2016-09-08 20:37 KKipalt: 03:50:908 (1,1,1) - pretty strange burst sliders
2016-09-08 20:37 KKipalt: shouldnt be stack imo
2016-09-08 20:37 TheArchist: i explained this to someone earlier
2016-09-08 20:38 KKipalt: my problem with it is
2016-09-08 20:38 KKipalt: theres this 04:07:849 (1,2,3,4) - after it
2016-09-08 20:38 TheArchist: basically im trying to convey a slight transition between the sound
2016-09-08 20:39 TheArchist: i feel meh on it
2016-09-08 20:39 TheArchist: i feel like keeping it
2016-09-08 20:40 KKipalt: 03:55:143 (1,2) - it looks reaaaaaly funni http://puu.sh/r4Scs/b53ef092d0.jpg
2016-09-08 20:41 TheArchist: its my 2 slider placement
2016-09-08 20:41 KKipalt: yeah
2016-09-08 20:41 TheArchist: ok fixing
2016-09-08 20:41 KKipalt: 04:06:084 (2) - 04:06:613 (2) - lol so close, its 1/4 but its slider lo
2016-09-08 20:41 KKipalt: ur in kiai part too
2016-09-08 20:42 TheArchist: thats not supposed to be kiai tho
2016-09-08 20:42 TheArchist: fuq
2016-09-08 20:43 KKipalt: anyway it sounds pretty louder than the rest of the song
2016-09-08 20:43 KKipalt: 04:08:555 (1) - wait why isnt thist part kiai lo
2016-09-08 20:44 TheArchist: im bad
2016-09-08 20:44 KKipalt: 04:12:084 (3) - should be clockwise cus follows "flow" more imo
2016-09-08 20:44 TheArchist: yeah
2016-09-08 20:44 KKipalt: 04:12:437 (4,5) - dud i dont think u bought the right blankets xd
2016-09-08 20:44 TheArchist: SHUT UP MOM
2016-09-08 20:45 TheArchist: ITS A PHASE
2016-09-08 20:45 KKipalt: 04:16:584 (2,3,4,5,6) - a lot less spaced than the otherstreams idk why
2016-09-08 20:45 KKipalt: well bursts
2016-09-08 20:45 KKipalt: whatever
2016-09-08 20:46 TheArchist: thats purely transition
2016-09-08 20:46 TheArchist: im not worried about spacing on those
2016-09-08 20:46 TheArchist: also the sliders are the height of the part
2016-09-08 20:46 TheArchist: since the wail
2016-09-08 20:46 KKipalt: oke
2016-09-08 20:46 TheArchist: so i might just leave it as is
2016-09-08 20:46 TheArchist: nah def leave it
2016-09-08 20:46 KKipalt: 04:22:320 (3,4) - i see really large spacing lo
2016-09-08 20:47 KKipalt: i mean
2016-09-08 20:47 KKipalt: im fine with it but
2016-09-08 20:47 KKipalt: 04:20:202 (2,3,4,5) - 
2016-09-08 20:47 TheArchist: intentional
2016-09-08 20:47 KKipalt: again small spacing
2016-09-08 20:47 TheArchist: looks bad
2016-09-08 20:47 TheArchist: i agree
2016-09-08 20:47 TheArchist: but meh id have to rework slider curve
2016-09-08 20:47 TheArchist: work
2016-09-08 20:47 TheArchist: smh
2016-09-08 20:48 KKipalt: 04:29:379 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - this stream doesnt look like ur typical silent stream for whatever reason
2016-09-08 20:48 TheArchist: because its better
2016-09-08 20:48 KKipalt: no insult intended btw
2016-09-08 20:48 KKipalt: no cus theres a circle
2016-09-08 20:49 KKipalt: http://puu.sh/r4SBp/66319e4b8b.jpg HI CIRCLE
2016-09-08 20:49 KKipalt: also circle is slightly off
2016-09-08 20:49 TheArchist: whihc one
2016-09-08 20:49 TheArchist: im blind
2016-09-08 20:49 KKipalt: i mean
2016-09-08 20:49 KKipalt: the curve
2016-09-08 20:49 KKipalt: creates a circular shape
2016-09-08 20:49 KKipalt: but the circular shape
2016-09-08 20:50 KKipalt: doesnt look very much like a circle
2016-09-08 20:50 TheArchist: wasn't really supposed to look like a circle tbh
2016-09-08 20:50 KKipalt: o oke den
2016-09-08 20:50 TheArchist: just a curved stream following intensity stuff imo
2016-09-08 20:51 KKipalt: 04:33:084 (4,1) - lo spacing 
2016-09-08 20:51 TheArchist: intentional, this is camellia remember
2016-09-08 20:51 KKipalt: 04:33:526 (2,3) - space 2 from 1 a bit more id say
2016-09-08 20:52 TheArchist: thats distance snapped properly afaik
2016-09-08 20:52 KKipalt: yeah slider end to circle compared to circle to slider head
2016-09-08 20:52 KKipalt: 1st one requires much less effort
2016-09-08 20:52 KKipalt: 04:36:084 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - looks like what i like to map tbh
2016-09-08 20:53 KKipalt: 04:36:790 (1) - distance snap kappa
2016-09-08 20:53 TheArchist: who needs distance snap kappa
2016-09-08 20:54 KKipalt: 04:48:879 (4,5) - anotha juan
2016-09-08 20:54 TheArchist: fixed
2016-09-08 20:54 TheArchist: thats remapped a bit
2016-09-08 20:54 KKipalt: 04:39:084 (1) - angle doesnt go into the next slider
2016-09-08 20:55 TheArchist: fixed
2016-09-08 20:55 TheArchist: slight movement fixed it really
2016-09-08 20:55 KKipalt: 04:50:555 (1,2) - kip sees extremely close 1/2s
2016-09-08 20:56 TheArchist: intentional
2016-09-08 20:56 TheArchist: ... i think
2016-09-08 20:56 KKipalt: 04:56:555 (1) - make 1 and previous 4 line up more id say
2016-09-08 20:56 KKipalt: also fits ds that way 
2016-09-08 20:57 TheArchist: ok fixed
2016-09-08 20:57 KKipalt: 04:58:320 (2) - honestly i like this either tilted or straight
2016-09-08 20:58 KKipalt: im not gonna mention some blankets btw cus i think ull fix them as soon as u see
2016-09-08 20:58 TheArchist: following percussion with the curves there
2016-09-08 20:58 TheArchist: mention blankets tbh
2016-09-08 20:58 KKipalt: yeah but the slider curved
2016-09-08 20:58 TheArchist: do i even look at them tbh
2016-09-08 20:58 KKipalt: as in
2016-09-08 20:58 KKipalt: tilted
2016-09-08 20:58 TheArchist: which one
2016-09-08 20:58 KKipalt: 4:58
2016-09-08 20:59 KKipalt: 05:04:496 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - silent mustve been high
2016-09-08 20:59 TheArchist: i am not following what youre saying
2016-09-08 20:59 TheArchist: not high ama
2016-09-08 20:59 KKipalt: 5:04 looks funny
2016-09-08 21:00 KKipalt: 05:06:702 (3,1) - this is a 3/4 gap
2016-09-08 21:00 KKipalt: 05:09:526 (2,1) - ^
2016-09-08 21:00 KKipalt: wait these 2 are nced differently wat
2016-09-08 21:01 KKipalt: 05:03:614 (3) - a bit faster imo
2016-09-08 21:01 TheArchist: also 3/4 gaps i have no fucking idea if intentional but i fixed a bit of it
2016-09-08 21:02 TheArchist: also are you asking to slow down or speed up the slider
2016-09-08 21:02 KKipalt: 05:11:379 (1) - probs shud blanket with 05:11:202 (5) - 
2016-09-08 21:02 KKipalt: to speed up slider
2016-09-08 21:02 KKipalt: thats a bit too slow
2016-09-08 21:02 TheArchist: meh i like the speed rn its perfect
2016-09-08 21:02 TheArchist: blankets mom
2016-09-08 21:02 TheArchist: what are they
2016-09-08 21:03 KKipalt: 05:12:084 (1,2) - these 2 are so close
2016-09-08 21:03 KKipalt: wat are what
2016-09-08 21:03 TheArchist: blankets
2016-09-08 21:03 KKipalt: http://puu.sh/r4Tj8/a705956b14.jpg what i mean about 5:11
2016-09-08 21:04 TheArchist: fixed 5/11
2016-09-08 21:04 KKipalt: 05:16:143 (4,5) - less spaced than 05:15:261 (1,2) - 
2016-09-08 21:05 KKipalt: http://puu.sh/r4To0/5743e47e7b.jpg how i would aim 
2016-09-08 21:05 TheArchist: looks same to me
2016-09-08 21:05 KKipalt: but that makes the last one feel strange
2016-09-08 21:05 TheArchist: im just gonna keep it
2016-09-08 21:05 TheArchist: for now
2016-09-08 21:06 KKipalt: 05:14:732 (3) - i dont like the overlap with the previous 4
2016-09-08 21:06 KKipalt: kip is triggered
2016-09-08 21:06 TheArchist: i like overlaps
2016-09-08 21:06 TheArchist: =>
2016-09-08 21:06 KKipalt: i like most overlaps
2016-09-08 21:07 KKipalt: 04:25:849 (2,3,4,5) - this looks funky too i forgot to say
2016-09-08 21:07 KKipalt: or did i say
2016-09-08 21:07 KKipalt: i dont remember
2016-09-08 21:07 TheArchist: fixed
2016-09-08 21:08 KKipalt: 04:27:967 (1,1) - idk i feel like these sliders should be longer than the previous 2
2016-09-08 21:08 KKipalt: thats all
2016-09-08 21:08 KKipalt: wait no
2016-09-08 21:08 TheArchist: sliders are fine on that imo
2016-09-08 21:08 KKipalt: 04:28:584 (2,3) - parallel?
2016-09-08 21:08 TheArchist: but meh i'll mess with it
2016-09-08 21:08 TheArchist: im triggered daddy
2016-09-08 21:08 TheArchist: ok fixing
2016-09-08 21:09 TheArchist: done
2016-09-08 21:09 KKipalt: 02:38:202 (1) - 02:53:732 (5) - wtf the burst things are so spaced lo
2016-09-08 21:10 TheArchist: yeah
2016-09-08 21:10 KKipalt: 02:57:437 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - meanwhile this sounds like it should be more spaced than b4 but is less
2016-09-08 21:10 TheArchist: so people dont die of boredom
2016-09-08 21:10 TheArchist: yes im controversial
2016-09-08 21:10 TheArchist: =^)
2016-09-08 21:11 KKipalt: 03:20:555 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - i wanna say this stream looks abit off
2016-09-08 21:11 KKipalt: 03:21:967 (1) - and this slider doesnt seem to go that well with the stream
2016-09-08 21:11 KKipalt: ye now i think im done
2016-09-08 21:12 TheArchist: slider is fine but stream has a weird curve i'll fix
2016-09-08 21:12 KKipalt: actuallly
2016-09-08 21:12 KKipalt: one more thing
2016-09-08 21:12 KKipalt: 04:18:790 (2,3,4,5) - 
2016-09-08 21:13 TheArchist: i plan on killing people
2016-09-08 21:13 TheArchist: on that part
2016-09-08 21:13 KKipalt: 2345 doesnt make half of a hexagon :^)
2016-09-08 21:13 TheArchist: .
2016-09-08 21:13 KKipalt: im fine with spacing lo
silento
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silento
Let's take a minute and thank kip for his amazing nazi mod.
AtHeoN
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AtHeoN
interesting concept but there are a lot of snapping issues

01:14:908 (1,2,1,2) - this is snapped wrong it goes on white and blue ticks
02:13:496 (1,2) - these aren't 1/3s and i recommend you to 02:12:790 (1,2,3,1,2) - map this section to strong beats cause it's the more dominant sound in that part
02:18:702 (2) - unsnapped note
02:35:908 (3,4,5) - replace this with 1/2 sliders because the stream is more audible 02:36:437 (1) - here
03:11:820 (2) - imo you should move this to the red tick and put here a note
03:25:584 (2) - wrong snap
03:27:261 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - http://puu.sh/rrXxp.jpg
03:30:967 (1,2,3,4) - http://puu.sh/rrXCd.jpg
03:35:379 (1) - extend this to 3/4 slider
03:37:496 - make this clickable and start this 03:37:496 (4) - slider here then put a note 03:37:849 - here http://puu.sh/rrXV3.jpg like this
03:38:555 - put a note here to make it consistent with what i previously mentioned if you decide to apply it
03:45:967 - the kiai is quite a mess imo, the rhythm here splits into 3 1/4 beats compared to the usual 4 1/4s so spamming 1/4 sliders will not fit most the time because a lot of strong beats will be on the sliderends 04:37:143 - ex: 04:37:143 (2,3,4,5) - here
03:51:437 (1) - wrongly snapped
05:00:790 - you skipped a strong beat
05:05:202 (2,2) - imo you should make it consistent with 05:06:614 (2,3,2,3) - these because the repeats don't fit that much
05:08:026 (2) - http://puu.sh/rrYOk.jpg
05:08:555 (5) - move it to the blue tick and put a note before that like these http://puu.sh/rrYRe.jpg
05:11:643 - strong beat

that's most of the rhythm issues i found, too lazy to mod ncs or patterns/aesthetics and playabilty so will stop here
silento
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silento
I'm currently putting this on hold for now but gonna apply most of your suggestions anyway.
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