Naru Sekiya (Reina Ueda) - Hana wa Odore ya Irohaniho Naru v · forum

Xinely

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Xinely 2016-06-30T02:19:39+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 6:48:34 AM

Artist: Naru Sekiya (Reina Ueda)
Title: Hana wa Odore ya Irohaniho Naru ver.
Source: ハナヤマタ
Tags: 上田麗奈 Ueda Reina hanayamata opening yosakoi Pata-Mon Setz Setz206 sahuang tv size
BPM: 160
Filesize: 4606kb
Play Time: 01:40
Difficulties Available:

Easy (1.58 stars, 136 notes)
Hard (3.31 stars, 286 notes)
Pata-Mon's Beginner (0.99 stars, 60 notes)
sahuang's Normal (1.97 stars, 191 notes)
Setz's Yosakoi (4.61 stars, 380 notes)

Download: Naru Sekiya (Reina Ueda) - Hana wa Odore ya Irohaniho Naru ver.
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
---------------
Beginner : Pata-Mon
Easy : me
Normal : sahuang
Hard : me
Insane : Setz

Thanks IamKwaN for metadata checking and Setz for mp3

Last edited by Xinely 2016-07-25T23:48:29+00:00, edited 18 times in total.

Momochikun

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Momochikun 2016-06-30T07:51:46+00:00

flower dance 1234 gggg

take star lul

Underforest

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Joined July 2015

Underforest 2016-06-30T08:32:31+00:00

same

Pata-Mon

1,489 posts

Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2016-07-03T06:58:17+00:00

我用的1155的offset

这个图之后会用自定义音效吗？如果有的话到时候叫我，再说音效的事吧

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Xinely

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Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Xinely 2016-07-03T10:45:44+00:00

Pata-Mon wrote:
我用的1155的offset

这个图之后会用自定义音效吗？如果有的话到时候叫我，再说音效的事吧

我可以为你给音效啊

updated

Pata-Mon

1,489 posts

Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2016-07-03T11:02:14+00:00

Xinely wrote:
Pata-Mon wrote:
我用的1155的offset

这个图之后会用自定义音效吗？如果有的话到时候叫我，再说音效的事吧
我可以为你给音效啊

updated

都可以，你要是愿意加就你来~

DeletedUser_3044645

DeletedUser_3044645 2016-07-07T02:50:31+00:00

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22:15 Setz: can you give dt playtest
22:16 Momoka: eah
22:17 *Setz is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1020713 Naru Sekiya - Hana wa Odore ya Irohaniho Naru ver.]
22:44 Setz: link note
22:45 Momoka: 00:20:467 (5) -
22:45 Momoka: 00:36:217 (6,7,8) -
22:45 Setz: LOL
22:45 Momoka: the thing about this stream is
22:45 Momoka: when you play no mode
22:45 Momoka: its no problem
22:45 Momoka: but with dt being 240 bpm ish
22:45 Momoka: its hard to snap
22:45 Momoka: 6->7->8
22:45 Momoka: they are in straight line
22:45 Setz: hmm true
22:46 Momoka: 01:15:780 (8,9,10,1) - same here
22:46 Momoka: I would make these 4 notes go the opposite direction
22:47 Setz: ctrl j on the triple would be fine no?
22:47 Setz: 01:15:967 (9,10,1) -
22:47 Momoka: yerah that works too
22:47 Momoka: 01:15:780 (8,9,10,1) -
22:47 Momoka: crtl j the
22:47 Momoka: whle thing
22:47 Momoka: i think it plays better
22:48 Setz: ah ok
22:48 Momoka: since you get more angle
22:48 Momoka: from 7->8
22:48 Momoka: its easier to snap
22:48 Setz: alright
22:48 Setz: ty sir
22:48 Setz: i will see how i can change the first stream
22:49 Momoka: ty for kds

Setz

1,419 posts

Joined August 2013

Setz 2016-07-07T03:12:23+00:00

ty sir

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Battle

2,865 posts

Joined February 2014

Battle 2016-07-07T03:19:44+00:00

well since the queue said placehold was fine but it would only mod after person mod I think it's fine?

[General]
I would suggest having a regular soft whistle sample such as this to avoid using the finish too often. Some places such as 00:03:405 (3) - (Timestamp from hard difficulty) really don't fit with having the finish on them. Having a regular whistle sound (that you can ofc name to like normal-hitwhistle instead since it's not occupied by any other hitsound) will make things sound much better imo

[Beginner]
00:11:655 (2,1,2,1) - The angle to have 00:13:155 (1) - going really makes things awkward imo, I would suggest just making a different slider shape instead of rotating 2, since the way you have it really makes a less-than-smooth transition for 00:13:155 (1,2,1) -
00:28:155 (1) - It would be better if you moved the red points to be where the white ticks are, so that way there's some sort of expression w/ slider movement, right now it's kinda either a little early or a little late
00:46:155 (1) - I dunno, I would rather have the slider ctrl + j then put back in the same position so that way when it goes toward the higher note, the slider goes up as well. I generally dislike the aesthetics for 00:43:155 (1,2,1) - but I'm not really sure what to suggest without changing slider shapes entirely
00:49:155 (1) - Moving the red tick to where the second tick is so there's movement for the note on 00:49:905 - would work better imo
00:58:155 (1) - basically same suggestion as above

.

01:04:155 (1,2,1) - The angle is pretty sharp here, you could lower 01:07:155 (1) - to make it a bit smoother, it's mostly because the direction you have 01:07:155 (1) - going is also sharp, so easing up on the initial transition can help make it feel a lot smoother
01:16:155 - could you at least put a note here, this is basically a break in the middle of the kiai, and it's really not necessary, even for a beginner diff

change hp to 1 at least i literally just noticed it's at 0 hp, you can literally just sit around for like 6 notes until you need to start clicking (not even accurately) to fill hp back up, could also change od to 1 since ya, 0 is ew

Personally I kinda disagree with the slider shape choices, since they were pretty sharp, and toward the end when there were more "interesting" slider shapes, it really didn't fit considering how calm the part was, but I suppose it's okay.

[Easy]
00:07:155 (1,2,3,4) - I think keeping the theme of just rotating it 45 degrees like you did for 00:07:155 (1,2) - would help with aesthetics, it kinds looks mess how it all lopsided and stuff
00:22:155 (1,2,3,4) - I dunno, the way you have 2 shaped kinda bugs me since it doesn't flow into 3 very well, making for some pretty sharp flow, and while that's okay I guess, it really kills any emphasis you could put 00:24:780 (4) - by making flow sharp for that beat
00:52:155 (1,2) - lol this is just nitpicking, but I would prefer for the slider shapes to mirror each other on this one and the other one so the "patto patto" feels better

[Normal]
00:09:030 (5,6) - Blanket could improve t b h
00:30:405 (5,6,1) - I suppose the flow break is for emphasis, but it could end up playing awkwardly. You may want to have 1 follow the flow
00:55:155 (1,2,3) - So one thing I would like to point out is the fact that some of your stacks are .9x ds away and others are 1.0x ds away, and this is mostly due to how ds likes to mess up if you're stacking. While normally this is okay, the ds that you use makes it EXTREMELY obvious when things are .9 and when things are 1.0. For example, look at 00:55:155 (1,2,3) - compared to 00:52:905 (3,4,5) - . You should make the ds consistent, and honestly I would suggest making them .9x ds for the stacks, to avoid making things look awkward (btw some of your ds'd stacks are even 1.1 so like yeah, pick .9 or 1.0 lol)
00:55:155 (1,2,3,4,5) - Try this rhythm instead?

.

01:05:655 (5,6) - See first comment xd
01:14:655 (3,4,5,6,1) - While I can agree with your choice for breaking flow, I feel like it's far too linear, maybe try using a different slider shape for 01:14:655 (3,4) - or 01:15:405 (5,6) - . That way you could have it flow while making it very distinct for the drums

.

01:41:280 (8) - You could just have these as single taps and just stack them all on 7, both the start and end of the slider 8 are strong beats, so it would be nice to have them clickable

[Hard]
00:11:092 (4,5) - I don't really see the point in placing the jump here really, 5 just sounds like all the other build up in the combo, having the jump on 00:11:655 (1) - would work better since there's a noticeable change in the music (pitch is higher)
00:16:717 (2,3,4,5) - Square shape could improve
00:21:780 (4,5,1) - I don't have too much of a problem with it, but it kinda breaks the consistency you were having with the previous things similar sounding (00:18:967 (3,4,1) - 00:15:967 (4,5,1) - ). Since it's a transition toward another section I'm kinda fine with it though, but you may want to change it to be consistent if you'd like
00:25:155 (1,2) - I'm really bugged by the fact that 1's end doesn't directly flow into 2
00:49:155 (1,2) - I dunno, these two sliders, mostly 1, kinda make it so 00:49:530 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - feels a bit awkward to hit, maybe try to smooth out the flow

lol the approach circles ended up getting in the way, but mayb sth like this

[Waifu]
00:01:155 - Sample of the green line is different from the red line so yaaa, fix it
00:20:467 (5) - This is like, the only problem I have with the map lol. So like it makes sense since you're following that string(?) thing in the bg, but like it just doesn't really feel consistent when playing. It's like the only time where sth like that happens and it's kinda just like meh. I would much rather do a triple for the vocals than follow the string thing

d

Last edited by Battle 2016-07-07T09:01:57+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Setz

1,419 posts

Joined August 2013

Setz 2016-07-07T03:29:27+00:00

@nely, change the sampleset of the red line for me pls

about the note Battle pointed out, triple would be incorrect snap. A Mystery looked up the sheet music for this for his full version map, and 1/6 is the most accurate representation of the sound in this part. so I will be keeping that for now unless more people have issues with it.

thanks for the mod!

Haruto

1,815 posts

Joined December 2013

Haruto 2016-07-07T03:36:16+00:00

Naru Sekiya kawaii

[General]

Maybe add Cover, tv size/short ver to the tags?
Disable Widescreen support on the following Diffs
1. Pata-mon's Beginner
2. Hard
3. Setz' Waifu
that should be all for general

[Pata-mon's Beginner]
You Could maybe raise the OD a bit to 0,5 since the SR is almost 1.00* but its completly up to you~

00:31:155 (1) - you could change this into a wave slider, it fits the flow nicely there!
Maybe like this

Actually... that should be the only thing i found on your diff xD Fine and Neat Diff :3

[Easy]kak nely ini THR lebaran dari gw, kemaren juga kak nely ngasi gw free mod pas tahun baru cina xDD

00:04:155 (1) - O.O how can this be an edgy slider when you dont do a red node here O__O i assume this is a mistake then? xd mungkin ditambahin red node aja biar semua org ga kaget lool
00:07:155 (1,2,3,4) - mungkin kaka bisa buat ini jadi neater square? biar 00:09:405 (4) - ini ga kestack sama 00:07:155 (1) - karena kalo distack keliatan aneh gitu menurut gw wkwk
Something like this?
00:09:405 (4,1,2) - neater triangle dong :^( also, 00:11:655 (3) - mungkin ini bisa stack sama 00:09:405 (4) - ya.. kalo kak nely ga ngubah ini jadi square diatas wkwk. kalo distack ini biar hilang kesan overlapnya gitu loh mba xD also. 00:10:155 (1) - finish here? ada cymbalnya
00:16:155 (1) - apa ini cuma satu2nya slider 1/2 dibagian ini? dari awal 00:13:155 - kaka ngikutin suara "dub"nya loh. kalo kaka tiba2 ngikut vokal itu keknya kurang gimana gitu.. kalo gw bilang sih yaa... inconsistency dalam rhythm. gw rekomen sih mending ngikut dub2nya sekalian aja daripada tiba2 ngikut vokal. kecuali buat 00:22:155 (1) - disini vokalnya di 1/2 baru kerasa banget jadi klo object 00:22:155 (1) - gausah dichange tapi kalo kaka mau change juga lebih baik jadi konsisten gitu wkwk
00:18:405 (3,1) - should be blanket?
00:37:155 (1,2,3) - inconsistent spacing, dari 00:37:155 (1,2) - 1 ke 2
00:39:405 (4,1) - ini juga
01:09:405 (4,1) - ^?
01:10:905 (2,3,4,1) - gimana kalo ini dibuat square juga kak? jadi kesan overlap di 01:10:905 (2,1) - bisa hilang~
Something like this would work
01:17:655 (1,2,3) - mungkin kalau semuanya dibuat naik turun gitu flownya lebih bagus, daripada cuma 01:18:405 (2,3) - ini aja yg naik turun flownya jadi ngerbreak gitu
Gini mungkin?
01:22:530 (4,1) - blanket off, both tail and head yg tail off sama blanket 01:23:655 (1) - xD
01:26:655 (1) - 1/2 disini kurang fit deh kak. kenapa ga ngikut 1/1 semuanya biar sreg D: tapi terserah kaka jadi consider aja~
01:31:905 (3,1) - almost inconsistent spacing
01:36:030 (2,4) - stack properly?

Curvy diff but fun to play ;o

[]
Placeholder buat lanjutin mod, mau jalan lagi sama keluarga actually ww

Battle

2,865 posts

Joined February 2014

Battle 2016-07-07T04:01:02+00:00

ya but like the thing is I would rather have it be somewhat of a simplification for the 1/6 since it would play better imo but that's just me xd

Grrum

886 posts

Joined November 2011

Grrum 2016-07-07T05:01:19+00:00

Hey, here for M4M from your queue. Mapset looks pretty good, but my one issue is Setz' pacing at the beginning. If he agrees with nerfing it (or buffing everything else), I'll shoot this a star. Hope this helps!

[Pata-mon's Beginner]

00:13:155 (1,2,1) – These angles are a bit sharp. Try smoothing it out? http://puu.sh/pT6nC/4c30614417.jpg

01:07:155 (1) – Might be better as a 2/1 reverse slider since there's a lot of lyrics in this measure that makes it feel a bit more intense

01:10:155 (1,2) – Consider adding a rotation to these like: http://puu.sh/pT6uO/3c266a303c.jpg . This also makes the motion into (1) a little smoother, and the 01:07:155 (1,1) – blanket is by no means necessary or better design.

01:32:655 (1,1) – Would prefer to see a smoother flow which also looks fine: http://puu.sh/pT6Bh/0da36be7db.jpg

[Easy]

00:37:155 (1) – Due to auto-stacking, the prev and next are inconsistent with the rest of the DS (they're 1.07x) which makes the blanket on the following note also look poor. Do +4x, +4y on 00:38:655 (3) – to fix. (On the one hand, stacking on Easy is a little tricky and is ideally avoided, but I personally don't think it's that big of an issue here)

[sahuang's Normal]

Modding Assistant says that 00:37:155 (1) – and 00:40:155 (1) – are unsnapped, but I'm not sure how accurate it is

00:20:655 (4) – This is overlapping the HP bar slightly. It seems easy to slightly adjust something before it so you can move it down a little.

00:30:405 (5,6,1) – I don't like how this plays. The curvature of the (6) slider makes me want to go left, but instead you jerk me right (only to again be jerked left with the motion of the (1) slider). If you're unwilling to do this: http://puu.sh/pT5AQ/16bc6bff5a.jpg , then rotate your sliders like: http://puu.sh/pT5Ex/761021d785.jpg , or use straight sliders

[Hard]

00:09:405 (3,4,5) – I tend to think that straight horizontal circles look formulaic. Consider giving this a little curve? http://puu.sh/pT587/7d79ed8788.jpg

00:28:155 (1,2,3) – Move (2) to 187, 109 for more equal visual spacing (or something like this since (2,3) feel too close together)? http://puu.sh/pT5eY/78ad54b01f.jpg

00:52:717 (2,3) – The curvature of (3) doesn't go well with (2), but I'm not really sure how to help since I don't want to mess up the triangle structure.

01:23:655 (1,3) – Make these have 1.20x spacing for equilateral triangle?

[Setsz' Waifu]

00:03:405 (5,1) – and 00:04:905 (4,1) – Why is the first pair very close, but the second pair is far away? Is the song really that different that you want to be this different? Making the second pair close seems a bit more fitting to me.

00:07:530 (2) – I'd like to address this part with all the ½ rhythm and high spacing. I very much agree with what you're doing, but this is the hardest section of the map. Modding Assistant shows the relative spacing across the map, and the spike really shows: http://puu.sh/pT4t5/62144e7c84.png. This is a problem since it makes the kiai, the supposedly strongest section of the song, feel kind of weak and not fulfilling of the expectations you set with this strong pattern at the beginning. I think it'd be good to make 00:08:280 (6) – and 00:09:780 (7) – into ½ sliders to help give the player a moment of rest. In addition, a slider here gives you a chance to reset the level of spacing so that the measures aren't linearly increasing in spacing (so that each measure build up, climaxes, then resets to a spacing slightly higher spacing than what the previous one started, but still a good reduction from the climax of the previous measure). 00:11:280 (7,8) – These can stay circles, and 00:11:655 (1,2,3) – can be large jumps, but I think you have to scale these last jumps down by at least .80x.

00:17:655 (1) – Consider adding a change in the flow to to go with the change in the harmony, like maybe: http://puu.sh/pT3Z2/36a3ac7862.jpg

00:32:655 (1,2,3) – I found this to be a little too intense for the music since the jump into (3) has a lot going on with it. Consider relaxing this, like maybe: http://puu.sh/pT3LY/eecf7dabc9.jpg

00:49:155 (1) – I think this is a stronger note than 00:46:905 (3) - , but the distance into it is a lot smaller, so the pacing and buildup here feels off. Consider increasing the jump into (1) and maybe lowering what comes earlier.

00:49:717 (3,4) – (3) isn't all that strong of a note in the music, but it's emphasized almost equally as (4) in terms of spacing. I'd prefer to see weaker spacing into (3) and stronger spacing into (4)

Good luck!

Last edited by Grrum 2016-07-07T06:37:10+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

CaffeAmericano

615 posts

Joined January 2015

CaffeAmericano 2016-07-07T05:36:03+00:00

General

Widescreen support in on in beginner, Hard, and Waifu <3

Setz Insane

01:03:405 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Maybe I’m overthinking, but since 01:03:498 - has negligible sound, and 01:03:592 (5,6,7,8) - is drum, how about stacking 01:03:405 (3,4,5) - and making 01:03:780 (7,8) - all clickable? I am thinking something like http://puu.sh/pT7LT/98da8840f1.jpg
01:11:842 - 01:12:405 - 01:12:780 - 01:13:905 - 01:14:280 - You’ve been consistently following vocal here, but still feels bit awkward making these strong beats not clickable

Hard

00:07:155 (1,2) - I think it will follow the music better if 00:07:155 (1) - is changed to 3/4 slider and a 1/2 slider is placed at 00:07:530 - , maybe similar to 00:59:655 (1,2) -
00:08:842 - I’m grumpy this sound gets buried in the slider
00:12:592 (4) - Consider extending 00:12:592 (4) - to 00:13:061 -, rotating, and bring 00:13:155 (1) - closer. I think it’d be better because there are plenty other 1/4 beats, and more consistent with 00:36:405 (5,6,1) - and 01:03:780 (4,1) -
00:24:405 (2,1) - Could be a blanket :3
01:03:686 - Leaving this beat out feels odd. Consider start the repeating slider early?
01:12:030 - 01:12:405 - I understand you’re following vocal, but I still think these should be clickable since it is clickable in most other places with same sound.
01:12:686 - Negligible sound at 01:12:686 - . I’m not sure if this is really necessary for hard. I think better place for triplets would be 01:13:061 - or 00:20:561 -
01:14:842 - Leaving this out while mapping 01:15:217 - feels bit awkward imo.
01:30:967 (4) - NC?
01:31:905 - 01:37:905 - I feel like these will be better if clickable

sahuang's Normal

00:09:030 (5,6) - Blanket could be better

Easy

00:17:655 (2) - Knit picky, but moving this to x=231 y=233 would make it isometric triangle that brings mathematician joy
01:10:905 (2,3,4,1) - I think diamond would make it look nicer, with no overlap between 01:10:905 (2,1) -
01:36:030 (2,4) - Stack?

Nice mapset, I hope my mod helps a bit. Good luck!

Setz

1,419 posts

Joined August 2013

Setz 2016-07-07T09:46:54+00:00

pinataman

pinataman wrote:
[Setsz' Waifu]

00:03:405 (5,1) – and 00:04:905 (4,1) – Why is the first pair very close, but the second pair is far away? Is the song really that different that you want to be this different? Making the second pair close seems a bit more fitting to me. huh? these are just gaps in the music, I decided to stack 1, and move the other one part, this really makes no difference since again, its a gap in the music.

00:07:530 (2) – I'd like to address this part with all the ½ rhythm and high spacing. I very much agree with what you're doing, but this is the hardest section of the map. Modding Assistant shows the relative spacing across the map, and the spike really shows: http://puu.sh/pT4t5/62144e7c84.png. This is a problem since it makes the kiai, the supposedly strongest section of the song, feel kind of weak and not fulfilling of the expectations you set with this strong pattern at the beginning. I think it'd be good to make 00:08:280 (6) – and 00:09:780 (7) – into ½ sliders to help give the player a moment of rest. In addition, a slider here gives you a chance to reset the level of spacing so that the measures aren't linearly increasing in spacing (so that each measure build up, climaxes, then resets to a spacing slightly higher spacing than what the previous one started, but still a good reduction from the climax of the previous measure). 00:11:280 (7,8) – These can stay circles, and 00:11:655 (1,2,3) – can be large jumps, but I think you have to scale these last jumps down by at least .80x. I want to keep what I have here, i think the difficulty spike is justified according to the song, but i do agree that the final jumps might need to be reduced, i will keep them for now, but if anyone else complains about this, i will make the changes needed.

00:17:655 (1) – Consider adding a change in the flow to to go with the change in the harmony, like maybe: http://puu.sh/pT3Z2/36a3ac7862.jpg
dont really see the need for this, i feel like this would play badly and the flow break doesnt emphasize anything

00:32:655 (1,2,3) – I found this to be a little too intense for the music since the jump into (3) has a lot going on with it. Consider relaxing this, like maybe: http://puu.sh/pT3LY/eecf7dabc9.jpg it actually plays well because the jump to 00:32:655 (1) - was large, so you get into a small spacing to jump rhythim. your suggestion doesnt really make that big of a difference

00:49:155 (1) – I think this is a stronger note than 00:46:905 (3) - , but the distance into it is a lot smaller, so the pacing and buildup here feels off. Consider increasing the jump into (1) and maybe lowering what comes earlier. these are not relate whatsoever. the section starting at 00:43:155 (1) - builds up to 00:46:905 (3) - and then a new section starts at 00:47:655 (1) - . that said i will move 00:49:155 (1) - some more for emphaises

00:49:717 (3,4) – (3) isn't all that strong of a note in the music, but it's emphasized almost equally as (4) in terms of spacing. I'd prefer to see weaker spacing into (3) and stronger spacing into (4) following vocal the spacing makes sense.

Good luck!

CaffeAmericano

CaffeAmericano wrote:
General
Widescreen support in on in beginner, Hard, and Waifu <3 ok
Setz Insane
01:03:405 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Maybe I’m overthinking, but since 01:03:498 - has negligible sound, and 01:03:592 (5,6,7,8) - is drum, how about stacking 01:03:405 (3,4,5) - and making 01:03:780 (7,8) - all clickable? I am thinking something like http://puu.sh/pT7LT/98da8840f1.jpg
while i understand what you mean, I think i rather keep the flow moving instead of stopping it with a stack.
01:11:842 - 01:12:405 - 01:12:780 - 01:13:905 - 01:14:280 - You’ve been consistently following vocal here, but still feels bit awkward making these strong beats not clickable this part of the melody is very repetitive, so yes, i decided to follow vocals so that I wouldn't get bored of mapping it.

thanks for the mods!

SPOILER

osu file format v14

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 51123
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
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DistanceSpacing: 1.4
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1

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Title:Hana wa Odore ya Irohaniho Naru ver.
TitleUnicode:花ハ踊レヤいろはにほ なるver.
Artist:Naru Sekiya
ArtistUnicode:関谷なる
Creator:Xinely
Version:Setz's Waifu <3
Source:ハナヤマタ
Tags:上田 麗奈 Ueda Reina hanayamata opening yosakoi Pata-Mon Setz Setz206 sahuang
BeatmapID:1020713
BeatmapSetID:475646

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OverallDifficulty:8
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Pata-Mon

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Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2016-07-07T13:36:38+00:00

i don't want to change od neither hp

@Battle add sth at 01:16:155 - . others I thinks not so necessary
@Haruto ok
@pinataman 01:32:655 (1,1) – did some change

thanks for mods!

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Xinely

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Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Xinely 2016-07-07T13:46:01+00:00

Battle wrote:
well since the queue said placehold was fine but it would only mod after person mod I think it's fine?

[General]
I would suggest having a regular soft whistle sample such as this to avoid using the finish too often. Some places such as 00:03:405 (3) - (Timestamp from hard difficulty) really don't fit with having the finish on them. Having a regular whistle sound (that you can ofc name to like normal-hitwhistle instead since it's not occupied by any other hitsound) will make things sound much better imo removed those finishes instead follow what setz does with his diff

[Easy]
00:07:155 (1,2,3,4) - I think keeping the theme of just rotating it 45 degrees like you did for 00:07:155 (1,2) - would help with aesthetics, it kinds looks mess how it all lopsided and stuff
00:22:155 (1,2,3,4) - I dunno, the way you have 2 shaped kinda bugs me since it doesn't flow into 3 very well, making for some pretty sharp flow, and while that's okay I guess, it really kills any emphasis you could put 00:24:780 (4) - by making flow sharp for that beat
00:52:155 (1,2) - lol this is just nitpicking, but I would prefer for the slider shapes to mirror each other on this one and the other one so the "patto patto" feels better actually (2) from copy paste and then rotate blabla lol

[Hard]
00:11:092 (4,5) - I don't really see the point in placing the jump here really, 5 just sounds like all the other build up in the combo, having the jump on 00:11:655 (1) - would work better since there's a noticeable change in the music (pitch is higher)
00:16:717 (2,3,4,5) - Square shape could improve
00:21:780 (4,5,1) - I don't have too much of a problem with it, but it kinda breaks the consistency you were having with the previous things similar sounding (00:18:967 (3,4,1) - 00:15:967 (4,5,1) - ). Since it's a transition toward another section I'm kinda fine with it though, but you may want to change it to be consistent if you'd like for those 2 before are really triplet (2 circles first then slider) so stack can work but for slider's tail as the first triplet in here i worry if can make a bit confuse so i give a bit spacing for it
00:25:155 (1,2) - I'm really bugged by the fact that 1's end doesn't directly flow into 2
00:49:155 (1,2) - I dunno, these two sliders, mostly 1, kinda make it so 00:49:530 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - feels a bit awkward to hit, maybe try to smooth out the flow
lol the approach circles ended up getting in the way, but mayb sth like this

Haruto wrote:
Naru Sekiya kawaii

[General]
Maybe add Cover, tv size/short ver to the tags? ok
Disable Widescreen support on the following Diffs
Pata-mon's Beginner
Hard
Setz' Waifu
that should be all for general

[Easy]kak nely ini THR lebaran dari gw, kemaren juga kak nely ngasi gw free mod pas tahun baru cina xDD
00:04:155 (1) - O.O how can this be an edgy slider when you dont do a red node here O__O i assume this is a mistake then? xd mungkin ditambahin red node aja biar semua org ga kaget lool itulah pro gw, ga ngefek di gameplay sih awkawkwa
00:07:155 (1,2,3,4) - mungkin kaka bisa buat ini jadi neater square? biar 00:09:405 (4) - ini ga kestack sama 00:07:155 (1) - karena kalo distack keliatan aneh gitu menurut gw wkwk
Something like this?
00:09:405 (4,1,2) - neater triangle dong :^( also, 00:11:655 (3) - mungkin ini bisa stack sama 00:09:405 (4) - ya.. kalo kak nely ga ngubah ini jadi square diatas wkwk. kalo distack ini biar hilang kesan overlapnya gitu loh mba xD also. 00:10:155 (1) - finish here? ada cymbalnya itu udah keubah gara2 battle. yg hitsound btw bukan aku jadi ga brani ngeadd ngeadd awkwakwak
00:16:155 (1) - apa ini cuma satu2nya slider 1/2 dibagian ini? dari awal 00:13:155 - kaka ngikutin suara "dub"nya loh. kalo kaka tiba2 ngikut vokal itu keknya kurang gimana gitu.. kalo gw bilang sih yaa... inconsistency dalam rhythm. gw rekomen sih mending ngikut dub2nya sekalian aja daripada tiba2 ngikut vokal. kecuali buat 00:22:155 (1) - disini vokalnya di 1/2 baru kerasa banget jadi klo object 00:22:155 (1) - gausah dichange tapi kalo kaka mau change juga lebih baik jadi konsisten gitu wkwk ide nya sih measure pertama ga ada 3/2 slider. measure ke 2 ada, measure ke 3 ga ada lagi measure 4 ada lagi biar ada variasi dikit gitu
00:18:405 (3,1) - should be blanket?
00:37:155 (1,2,3) - inconsistent spacing, dari 00:37:155 (1,2) - 1 ke 2 1,00x? D:
00:39:405 (4,1) - ini juga ^
01:09:405 (4,1) - ^?
01:10:905 (2,3,4,1) - gimana kalo ini dibuat square juga kak? jadi kesan overlap di 01:10:905 (2,1) - bisa hilang~
Something like this would work
01:17:655 (1,2,3) - mungkin kalau semuanya dibuat naik turun gitu flownya lebih bagus, daripada cuma 01:18:405 (2,3) - ini aja yg naik turun flownya jadi ngerbreak gitu
Gini mungkin?
01:22:530 (4,1) - blanket off, both tail and head yg tail off sama blanket 01:23:655 (1) - xD
01:26:655 (1) - 1/2 disini kurang fit deh kak. kenapa ga ngikut 1/1 semuanya biar sreg D: tapi terserah kaka jadi consider aja~
01:31:905 (3,1) - almost inconsistent spacing
01:36:030 (2,4) - stack properly?

Curvy diff but fun to play ;o
[]
Placeholder buat lanjutin mod, mau jalan lagi sama keluarga actually ww

pinataman wrote:
Hey, here for M4M from your queue. Mapset looks pretty good, but my one issue is Setz' pacing at the beginning. If he agrees with nerfing it (or buffing everything else), I'll shoot this a star. Hope this helps!

[Easy]

00:37:155 (1) – Due to auto-stacking, the prev and next are inconsistent with the rest of the DS (they're 1.07x) which makes the blanket on the following note also look poor. Do +4x, +4y on 00:38:655 (3) – to fix. (On the one hand, stacking on Easy is a little tricky and is ideally avoided, but I personally don't think it's that big of an issue here)

[Hard]

00:09:405 (3,4,5) – I tend to think that straight horizontal circles look formulaic. Consider giving this a little curve? http://puu.sh/pT587/7d79ed8788.jpg

00:28:155 (1,2,3) – Move (2) to 187, 109 for more equal visual spacing (or something like this since (2,3) feel too close together)? http://puu.sh/pT5eY/78ad54b01f.jpg

00:52:717 (2,3) – The curvature of (3) doesn't go well with (2), but I'm not really sure how to help since I don't want to mess up the triangle structure.

01:23:655 (1,3) – Make these have 1.20x spacing for equilateral triangle?

Good luck!

CaffeAmericano wrote:
General
Widescreen support in on in beginner, Hard, and Waifu <3
Hard
00:07:155 (1,2) - I think it will follow the music better if 00:07:155 (1) - is changed to 3/4 slider and a 1/2 slider is placed at 00:07:530 - , maybe similar to 00:59:655 (1,2) - 00:06:780 (4) - already use 3/4 so i cant use it again
00:08:842 - I’m grumpy this sound gets buried in the slider
00:12:592 (4) - Consider extending 00:12:592 (4) - to 00:13:061 -, rotating, and bring 00:13:155 (1) - closer. I think it’d be better because there are plenty other 1/4 beats, and more consistent with 00:36:405 (5,6,1) - and 01:03:780 (4,1) - i want emphasis next note which has cymbal with a mini jump so yes ><
00:24:405 (2,1) - Could be a blanket :3
01:03:686 - Leaving this beat out feels odd. Consider start the repeating slider early?
01:12:030 - 01:12:405 - I understand you’re following vocal, but I still think these should be clickable since it is clickable in most other places with same sound. yep since vocal so its fine.. i dont map insane or extra which really need to be emphasized properly
01:12:686 - Negligible sound at 01:12:686 - . I’m not sure if this is really necessary for hard. I think better place for triplets would be 01:13:061 - or 00:20:561 - nah they are imporant, i dont map 1/4 vocal
01:14:842 - Leaving this out while mapping 01:15:217 - feels bit awkward imo.
01:30:967 (4) - NC?
01:31:905 - 01:37:905 - I feel like these will be better if clickable hope i can skip, i cant make my hard becomes harder otherwise rip spread
Easy
00:17:655 (2) - Knit picky, but moving this to x=231 y=233 would make it isometric triangle that brings mathematician joy
01:10:905 (2,3,4,1) - I think diamond would make it look nicer, with no overlap between 01:10:905 (2,1) -
01:36:030 (2,4) - Stack?
Nice mapset, I hope my mod helps a bit. Good luck!

no reply means fixed

thanks 4 mod all

Last edited by Xinely 2016-07-07T13:59:37+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

sahuang

2,294 posts

Joined December 2014

sahuang 2016-07-07T13:58:18+00:00

Beginner
不是很懂论文摸
00:06:780 - 删掉这种没用的绿线
00:19:155 (1,2) - 把2向下挪一点？现在不是很对称
00:37:155 - 00:40:155 - 这些地方我觉得滑条头会好一点，虽然现在也没什么
00:46:155 (1) - 红点放中间？
稳

Easy
00:01:155 (1,2) - somehow i think http://puu.sh/pTrPj/b5876e4407.jpg looks better
00:38:280 (2,3,4) - the flow is kinda too straight imo

Hard
00:15:217 (2,3,4,5) - quite strange rhythm. how about http://puu.sh/pTrZc/0dc97cfa26.jpg which is more consistent?
00:16:717 (2,3,4,5) - square pls owo
00:49:155 (1,2,3) - dont like the flow
00:50:092 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - try 2 reverse sliders here? it's quite hard to hit all 300 for hard players
00:57:030 (2,3,4,5) - DS?
01:41:280 (4,1) - dont understand NC and i think just stack them is fine

Waifu <3
00:10:905 (5,6,7,8) - the sudden stack here feels kinda abrupt imo
00:33:405 (3) - 00:34:905 (3) - ctrl+G is better
00:34:905 (3) - also straight slider is ok i think
00:36:405 (7) - try NC here
00:51:030 (1) - 1/8 slider? i think slider end should be silenced...
00:55:905 (4,5) - improve blanket

respond to my own diff will come later

edit: modded b4 update so there should be some issues i mentioned already changed :w:

sahuang

2,294 posts

Joined December 2014

sahuang 2016-07-07T14:25:49+00:00

Battle wrote:
well since the queue said placehold was fine but it would only mod after person mod I think it's fine?

[Normal]
00:09:030 (5,6) - Blanket could improve t b h k
00:30:405 (5,6,1) - I suppose the flow break is for emphasis, but it could end up playing awkwardly. You may want to have 1 follow the flow
well i changed 1/2 slider to straight
00:55:155 (1,2,3) - So one thing I would like to point out is the fact that some of your stacks are .9x ds away and others are 1.0x ds away, and this is mostly due to how ds likes to mess up if you're stacking. While normally this is okay, the ds that you use makes it EXTREMELY obvious when things are .9 and when things are 1.0. For example, look at 00:55:155 (1,2,3) - compared to 00:52:905 (3,4,5) - . You should make the ds consistent, and honestly I would suggest making them .9x ds for the stacks, to avoid making things look awkward (btw some of your ds'd stacks are even 1.1 so like yeah, pick .9 or 1.0 lol) cant see any prob with ds cuz all are 1.0. change sv for kiai so it's technically 1.1x
00:55:155 (1,2,3,4,5) - ok
others no change

d

@pinataman for the last one changed a bit

@CaffeAmericano fixed

thanks for mod

baka

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TitleUnicode:花ハ踊レヤいろはにほ なるver.
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ArtistUnicode:関谷なる
Creator:Xinely
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Pata-Mon

1,489 posts

Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2016-07-07T15:04:57+00:00

sahuang wrote:
Beginner
不是很懂论文摸
00:06:780 - 删掉这种没用的绿线 ~~不是我的锅~~
00:19:155 (1,2) - 把2向下挪一点？现在不是很对称没打算对称，底下是正三角形。底下也都不改了
00:37:155 - 00:40:155 - 这些地方我觉得滑条头会好一点，虽然现在也没什么
00:46:155 (1) - 红点放中间？
稳

thanks for mod

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Flask

Beatmap Nominator

3,466 posts

Joined July 2011

Flask 2016-07-08T06:58:56+00:00

m4m

[Setz's Waifu xd]

00:02:655 (1,1,2,5) - Default-whistle might be fitted here, you can consider to add them
00:06:780 - It sounds really empty when there's something very clear in the music but there's no hitsound on the object. lol I mean, you'd probably decide to add something here, like a s:c1 whistle (yeah the current section) or something else
00:35:842 (2,3,4,5,6) - This is more like, an unnecessary stream, compared with 00:36:405 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13) -. I cant here sounds in 1/4s in the music here, or it's not loud enough. Just replace them with some random 1/2s would be great
00:36:405 (7) - Also you may want to add a new combo here then you can separate the normal-1/2-part from stream part
00:51:030 (1) - To keep the pattern clear I suggest you to scale it like 90 degrees anti-clockwise even though that doesnt actually matter lol
00:57:030 - thE clAp iS miSsinG
01:09:030 (2) - alSo hErE
01:15:030 (3) - AnD HerE (actually I start to suspect if that's intentional or not)
01:15:405 (5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - To me, the rhythm here is more like in this way if you're trying to follow the music. The 1/4s sounds actually start on 01:15:592 - though

[Huang Beautiful]

00:02:655 (1,1,1,3) - Same as Setz's diff, you may try to add whistles on these places (To ur Easy too)
00:06:780 - Same as setz's diff too, add a whistle (s:c1 here) to make the part not-so-empty (^)
00:53:655 (1) - Missing whistle
00:57:030 - 01:09:030 - 01:15:030 (2) - ugu the clap

[sahuang's Normal]

00:02:655 - 00:04:155 - 00:05:655 - 00:06:405 - 能加上whistle~ 音樂裡面有叮叮聲
00:06:780 - 這裡我感覺能加個s:c1的whistle
00:55:905 (3,4) - 這裡好像用不到這麼密的節奏, 改成停在00:56:280 - 的1/1滑條就好 (後面紅線空著
01:09:030 - missing clap

other diffs are fine
good luck o/

Xinely

5,014 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Xinely 2016-07-09T14:31:33+00:00

sahuang wrote:
Easy
00:01:155 (1,2) - somehow i think http://puu.sh/pTrPj/b5876e4407.jpg looks better not supposed to make that symmetrical pattern
00:38:280 (2,3,4) - the flow is kinda too straight imo

Hard
00:15:217 (2,3,4,5) - quite strange rhythm. how about http://puu.sh/pTrZc/0dc97cfa26.jpg which is more consistent? supposed to emphasis the piano 00:15:217 - 00:15:592 - with mini jumps
00:16:717 (2,3,4,5) - square pls owo
00:49:155 (1,2,3) - dont like the flow but i like it
00:50:092 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - try 2 reverse sliders here? it's quite hard to hit all 300 for hard players yes but 1 only, to keep spread with insane i have to make my hard plays a bit hard
00:57:030 (2,3,4,5) - DS? jumps for "hai hai"
01:41:280 (4,1) - dont understand NC and i think just stack them is fine

edit: modded b4 update so there should be some issues i mentioned already changed :w:

Flask wrote:
m4m

[Huang Beautiful]
00:02:655 (1,1,1,3) - Same as Setz's diff, you may try to add whistles on these places (To ur Easy too)
00:06:780 - Same as setz's diff too, add a whistle (s:c1 here) to make the part not-so-empty (^)
00:53:655 (1) - Missing whistle
00:57:030 - 01:09:030 - 01:15:030 (2) - ugu the clap

no reply means fixed thank you ~

buhei

567 posts

Joined February 2012

buhei 2016-07-09T16:37:53+00:00

m4m

Waifu
00:02:655 (1) - 00:04:155 - 00:05:655 - add finish
00:12:405 (4,5) - no reason to be so jumpy
00:26:467 (5,1) - not really a good flow to reach the head of (1) because of the shape of the slider
00:31:905 (3,4,5) - it seems that the rhythm should be note+note+slider instead of slider+note+note. same at 00:33:405 (3,4,5) - and 00:34:905 (3,4,5) - .
00:36:405 (7) - not a good idea to use a 1/4 slider here. it can confuse the player and is not necessary. a note will be better imo. also 00:36:217 (6,7) - sv too slow, please move 00:36:405 (7) - down a bit to make it better connected to 00:36:592 (8) -
00:51:030 (1,2) - PLEASE DONT MAKE THE RHYTHM SO TIGHT HERE. to stress the piano at 00:51:030 - , please delete 00:51:217 (2) -

Hard
00:17:561 - note?
00:57:030 (2,3,4) - to emphasize 00:57:592 (4,5) - , please move 00:57:592 (4) - up to around 384,216 like 01:09:405 (4,5,6) - .
01:03:686 (4) - better to use a note+a reversed slider which starts at 01:03:780 -
why 01:12:592 (3,4) - but not 01:13:061 - ?

gl

Setz

1,419 posts

Joined August 2013

Setz 2016-07-09T21:25:36+00:00

sahuang

sahuang wrote:
Waifu <3
00:10:905 (5,6,7,8) - the sudden stack here feels kinda abrupt imo if you listen to the music, the back and forth motions make sense.
00:33:405 (3) - 00:34:905 (3) - ctrl+G is better intentional flow breaks
00:34:905 (3) - also straight slider is ok i think prefer current shape
00:36:405 (7) - try NC here ok
00:51:030 (1) - 1/8 slider? i think slider end should be silenced... why?
00:55:905 (4,5) - improve blanket not supposed to be blanket

respond to my own diff will come later

edit: modded b4 update so there should be some issues i mentioned already changed :w:

Flask

Flask wrote:
m4m

[Setz's Waifu xd]
00:02:655 (1,1,2,5) - Default-whistle might be fitted here, you can consider to add them ok
00:06:780 - It sounds really empty when there's something very clear in the music but there's no hitsound on the object. lol I mean, you'd probably decide to add something here, like a s:c1 whistle (yeah the current section) or something else added whistle
00:35:842 (2,3,4,5,6) - This is more like, an unnecessary stream, compared with 00:36:405 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13) -. I cant here sounds in 1/4s in the music here, or it's not loud enough. Just replace them with some random 1/2s would be great i hear the sound on the 1/4 very clearly here :\
00:36:405 (7) - Also you may want to add a new combo here then you can separate the normal-1/2-part from stream part did from previous mod
00:51:030 (1) - To keep the pattern clear I suggest you to scale it like 90 degrees anti-clockwise even though that doesnt actually matter lol lol, yeah i dont think this matters at all, i prefer the current aesthetics anyway
00:57:030 - thE clAp iS miSsinG
01:09:030 (2) - alSo hErE
01:15:030 (3) - AnD HerE (actually I start to suspect if that's intentional or not) added all these, it was not intentional
01:15:405 (5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - To me, the rhythm here is more like in this way if you're trying to follow the music. The 1/4s sounds actually start on 01:15:592 - though

again, I hear sound on that previous blue tick, it just not the same type of drum that is in the later part of the stream, anyway, I prefer the current pattern because for a regular insane, i dont want to start a stream with a kick slider. i rather use a triple to lead into it.
good luck o/

buhei

buhei wrote:
m4m

Waifu
00:02:655 (1) - 00:04:155 - 00:05:655 - add finish added whistles from previous mod
00:12:405 (4,5) - no reason to be so jumpy reduced a little
00:26:467 (5,1) - not really a good flow to reach the head of (1) because of the shape of the slider seems fine to me
00:31:905 (3,4,5) - it seems that the rhythm should be note+note+slider instead of slider+note+note. same at 00:33:405 (3,4,5) - and 00:34:905 (3,4,5) - . following vocal, so current is fine.
00:36:405 (7) - not a good idea to use a 1/4 slider here. it can confuse the player and is not necessary. a note will be better imo. also 00:36:217 (6,7) - sv too slow, please move 00:36:405 (7) - down a bit to make it better connected to 00:36:592 (8) - any insane player who has made it this far into the map should have no problems reading this, i did move it closer to the 8 though.
00:51:030 (1,2) - PLEASE DONT MAKE THE RHYTHM SO TIGHT HERE. to stress the piano at 00:51:030 - , please delete 00:51:217 (2) - dont see the reason? current rhythm follows vocal and the piano

gl

thanks for the mods!

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@nely can you remove the purple combo color in my diff (or add to the others, i dont care either way)

Xinely

5,014 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Xinely 2016-07-10T15:17:10+00:00

buhei wrote:
m4m

Hard
00:17:561 - note? not really sure but i hear like 1/6 , not 1/4 so 1/2 best for avoid weird snap
00:57:030 (2,3,4) - to emphasize 00:57:592 (4,5) - , please move 00:57:592 (4) - up to around 384,216 like 01:09:405 (4,5,6) - . did another with make bigger spacing 1,7x
01:03:686 (4) - better to use a note+a reversed slider which starts at 01:03:780 - if i start the slider repeat at whitetick, last slider end at upward and no space to move my next pattern, and its fine as 00:12:592 (4) - has no complain so far
why 01:12:592 (3,4) - but not 01:13:061 - ? because too hard for hard diff, also i map 1/4 there because drums when 01:13:061 - is guitar and vocal

l

thanks 4 mod :3

updated with new metadata thanks to kwan <3

IamKwaN

osu! Alumni

3,905 posts

Joined August 2012

IamKwaN 2016-07-10T15:24:37+00:00

so, a chat log on Discord

SPOILER

KwaN - Today at 10:51 PM
everytime only Sonnyc responses
LOL
so you could use 関谷なる（上田麗奈）as the artist
no one disagrees..

Xinely - Today at 10:52 PM
maybe due he is only who can check metadata lol
ah okay romanised then Sekiya Naru (Ueda Reina) or Naru Sekiya (Ueda Reina) ?

KwaN - Today at 10:56 PM
Naru Sekiya (Ueda Reina) seems more consistent
to Setz's map
so weird
ah
should be Naru Sekiya (Reina Ueda)
http://www.81produce.co.jp/list.cgi?lady+0304318402410
声優は81プロデュースにお任せください。

Xinely - Today at 10:59 PM
metadata is hard lol
okay thank you for the help kwannie ><

KwaN - Today at 11:03 PM
😗 no problem

Xinely - Today at 11:16 PM
oh btw kwannie maybe you can post the metadata in map's thread so if BN ask it they can believe if the metadata is confirmed already?

KwaN - Today at 11:23 PM
😂
sure

Sonnyc

7,761 posts

Joined June 2008

Sonnyc 2016-07-10T15:25:04+00:00

*Slaps*

Setz

1,419 posts

Joined August 2013

Setz 2016-07-10T22:09:29+00:00

the metadata struggle is real

add 上田麗奈 to tags because problems with searching on the site like my other maps

Pata-Mon

1,489 posts

Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2016-07-11T15:35:52+00:00

呀，我又听了一下timing，感觉这歌是bpm蛋疼，想弄特准的话可能需要多条红线。像现在单160的话，目前这个offset，开头00:01:155 - 和结尾01:17:655 - 处timing基本上是准的，但是中间，比如00:49:155 - 这个小节，包括副歌的很大一部分，会感觉offset晚了。
又去听了一下mochi的版本（https://osu.ppy.sh/s/191314），也是有些问题，00:06:822 - 这里能听出非常明显的offset慢了，但到副歌那里基本上又准了。

现在才发现真是不好意思……要弄得特准还是挺麻烦的，毕竟多红线改bpm的话所有绿线都要手动snap一下，打算改吗？
也可以再找人问问

Setz

1,419 posts

Joined August 2013

Setz 2016-07-11T19:48:20+00:00

assuming that the above post is about timing, i still feel that the base timing is off in spots. I still feel like -10 like i told you before feels better. and then maybe add a red line at 01:17:665

maybe you can try asking pishi for help since i suck at this, he might be willing to help since you helped with his map not long ago

EDIT: welllllllll I tried to fix the mp3 myself, try this mp3 with offset 1142 http://puu.sh/pYm4t/e349eeb52c.mp3

probably still ask pishi to be safe

Momochikun

1,944 posts

Joined October 2012

Momochikun 2016-07-11T22:58:31+00:00

sleketep ud gw re-dl sampe 4 5x gara" tu artist gonta ganti mulu duh lmao

bg di hard moe banget wtf, autoset desktop bg

[general]
tag conflict, diff patamon kurang tag "tv size"
widescreen support why.. ?

[setz]
00:05:655 - not to be picky but somehow i can hear that little slider-slide sounds which pretty disturbing, compared to 00:04:155 - which dont have smth like that
00:10:155 (1) - should have a finish considered you add one at 00:12:030 -
00:47:655 (1) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5588573 looks unimportant but yeah it affect the flow pretty much i think
00:49:436 - i wonder why you didnt do triplet too here xD
01:09:780 (2) - try a whistle at slidertail
01:15:592 (7) - missing clap ?
01:35:655 (1,2) - mind moving this farther, i kinda missread as 1/2 pattern lol
01:41:092 (5,1,2) - well i think it's better to get the jump bigger at 1 to 2 instead of 5 to 1 considering the instrument play

[hard]
00:10:155 (1) - finish bagus deh imo, cymbalnya jelas banget lagian
00:17:092 (3,4,5,1) - ini imperfect square nya emg purpose lol ? dari 5 ke 1 kliatan bgt tuh beda jaraknya
00:26:655 (1,2) - jauhin dong, cmn 1.09x itu lho
01:06:780 (5) - kok cmn ini satu" nya yang dicover pake 3/4 sisanya pake note. entah cmn rada inconsistent aja si imo
01:15:405 (4) - add clap
01:18:217 (2) - ini instrumentnya ngga bgitu kedengaran jadi agak aneh pas gameplay, prefer stick ke drumnya aja mendingan
01:27:217 (2) - coba pake 01:26:655 (1) - yang di ctrl g lbih rapi sumpe
01:00:030 (2,3,4) - kurang demen gw ini, coba tingkatin curvenya dikit lbih bagus de. skalian fix blanket LOL http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5588668
01:10:155 (1) - finish ?
01:12:592 (3,4,5) - drpd emphasize drum disini, bisa lbih bagus klo triplet nya ditaruh di 01:13:061 - buat vocalnya seperti 00:22:061 (5) -
01:29:092 (4) - whistle
00:24:405 (2,1) - blanket moar blanket

[sahuang]
increasing sv on normal diff is real..
00:20:655 (4) - kinda close to hp bar, i'd consider moving this a bit down
00:28:155 (1,2,3) - idk if you insist to cover the drum, but i think the rhythm should be smth like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5588706 to make it different with other 00:31:155 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - which has vocal on the white tick too
00:35:655 (4,5) - might be a bit hard for beginners to react with a note after a repeat slider. try a 1/1 or a note instead on 00:35:655 - ?
00:53:655 - 01:16:155 (1) - missing whistle
00:57:030 - 01:09:030 - missing clap
01:07:155 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ehmm how to stay it, the rhythm is not balance while you cover the entire 01:07:155 (1,2,3,4) - with 1/2 slider and then goes down with a full 1/1 repeat slider 01:08:655 (5) - when the song and vocal pace is still much same. i'd mix a 1/1 slider and notes
instead for more comfortable pattern to follow. could be smth similiar like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5588749 (ya im lazy to cut the pic just look at the rhythm section)
01:33:967 (3,4) - i'd mix them into 1/1 slider
01:41:092 - you dont need a clap here since the music doesnt have one

[easy]
00:05:655 - ini seperti ada sesuatu hitsound yg kurang zz whistle ?
00:10:155 (1) - finish ?
00:12:780 (5) - unconsitent spacing ok /runs
00:25:155 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - ini kok rasanya lumayan dense ya trus tiba" ganti jadi 2/1 slider spam disini 00:31:155 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - ._. coba yang sebelumnya di simplify gitu ?
00:37:155 (1,3) - ini entah acceptable atau engga, soalnya itu (3) uda muncul pas slidernya belum kelar jadi keknya bingungin deh klo buat pemula
00:39:780 - add note bolehlah buat vocalnya.. kesepian ini (4) ga ada temen deket LOL
00:53:655 (3) - whistle
00:57:030 - clap
01:16:155 (5) - emg ga ada hitsound d sini ?

gw drpd ada beginner sih lbih prefer ada insane+ :p

gl ce

Xinely

5,014 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Xinely 2016-07-11T23:45:11+00:00

fixed mp3, will check mochi's mod soon

sahuang

2,294 posts

Joined December 2014

sahuang 2016-07-12T06:23:51+00:00

~~Busy with school work arm... I will respond to mods, and also increase SV by 0.1 and remap Normal according to Mochi later this week.~~

E:0.9 N:1.2 H:1.4 I:1.6 I think it's fine lol

@Flask 都改了

Momochikun wrote:
[sahuang]
increasing sv on normal diff is real.. But as i said,my sv suits the spread now.
00:20:655 (4) - kinda close to hp bar, i'd consider moving this a bit down ok
00:28:155 (1,2,3) - idk if you insist to cover the drum, but i think the rhythm should be smth like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5588706 to make it different with other 00:31:155 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - which has vocal on the white tick too sure
00:35:655 (4,5) - might be a bit hard for beginners to react with a note after a repeat slider. try a 1/1 or a note instead on 00:35:655 - ? no imo it's very fine
00:53:655 - 01:16:155 (1) - missing whistle
00:57:030 - 01:09:030 - missing clap fixed
01:07:155 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ehmm how to stay it, the rhythm is not balance while you cover the entire 01:07:155 (1,2,3,4) - with 1/2 slider and then goes down with a full 1/1 repeat slider 01:08:655 (5) - when the song and vocal pace is still much same. i'd mix a 1/1 slider and notes
instead for more comfortable pattern to follow. could be smth similiar like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5588749 (ya im lazy to cut the pic just look at the rhythm section) did sth
01:33:967 (3,4) - i'd mix them into 1/1 slider no i think it's ok www
01:41:092 - you dont need a clap here since the music doesnt have one k

bakaspread

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ArtistUnicode:関谷なる（上田 麗奈）
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TicClick

Global Moderator

4,422 posts

Joined February 2011

TicClick 2016-07-12T19:13:36+00:00

[Setz' Waifu <3]

00:20:454 (5) - consider using two 1/4 snapped notes instead, since the difficulty before that point heavily relies on vocals
00:51:017 (1) - *sigh* if you're going to do that, at least silence the tail to make hitnormal inaudible

I don't really like it, but.. oh well, whatever.

[Hard]

00:58:892 (3,4,5,1) - unify the spacing?

[sahuang's Normal]

00:53:642 (5) - I'd go with a usual blanket if you want it that much. The shape looks too odd -- at least to me
00:56:642 (4) and also 01:08:642 (5) - missing clap on repeat
01:19:142 (5) - add a curve? For ex., https://tc.s-ul.eu/jTFMMp8V.png
01:41:079 (7) - would replace with a note and a slider for better feeling

[Easy]

00:57:017 (4) and 01:08:642 (3) - missing clap (head/tail)

[Pata-Mon's Beginner]
Doesn't have "tv size" in tags.

Pata-Mon

1,489 posts

Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2016-07-13T00:44:17+00:00

帮我加一下tag吧，谢谢啦~

Xinely

5,014 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Xinely 2016-07-13T01:08:19+00:00

Momochikun wrote:
sleketep ud gw re-dl sampe 4 5x gara" tu artist gonta ganti mulu duh lmao

bg di hard moe banget wtf, autoset desktop bg <3

[hard]
00:10:155 (1) - finish bagus deh imo, cymbalnya jelas banget lagian
00:17:092 (3,4,5,1) - ini imperfect square nya emg purpose lol ? dari 5 ke 1 kliatan bgt tuh beda jaraknya
00:26:655 (1,2) - jauhin dong, cmn 1.09x itu lho
01:06:780 (5) - kok cmn ini satu" nya yang dicover pake 3/4 sisanya pake note. entah cmn rada inconsistent aja si imo pengen variasi dikit lah masa 1/1 mulu uwu
01:15:405 (4) - add clap
01:18:217 (2) - ini instrumentnya ngga bgitu kedengaran jadi agak aneh pas gameplay, prefer stick ke drumnya aja mendingan pianonya jelas
01:27:217 (2) - coba pake 01:26:655 (1) - yang di ctrl g lbih rapi sumpe lah iki ancen dari ctrl+g O_O
01:00:030 (2,3,4) - kurang demen gw ini, coba tingkatin curvenya dikit lbih bagus de. skalian fix blanket LOL http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5588668
01:10:155 (1) - finish ?
01:12:592 (3,4,5) - drpd emphasize drum disini, bisa lbih bagus klo triplet nya ditaruh di 01:13:061 - buat vocalnya seperti 00:22:061 (5) - yoi tapi ancene ga suka ngemap vocal aku, lebih demen nang drum maka e ngene, seng 01:11:079 (4,5,6) - ngene2 kan yo dari drum jadi gae konsisten ae
01:29:092 (4) - whistle
00:24:405 (2,1) - blanket moar blanket

[easy]
00:05:655 - ini seperti ada sesuatu hitsound yg kurang zz whistle ?
00:10:155 (1) - finish ?
00:12:780 (5) - unconsitent spacing ok /runs
00:25:155 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - ini kok rasanya lumayan dense ya trus tiba" ganti jadi 2/1 slider spam disini 00:31:155 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - ._. coba yang sebelumnya di simplify gitu ? bikin yg selanjut e jadi 1/2 slider repeat ae, kan wez onok beginner jadi easy e iso rada angel
00:37:155 (1,3) - ini entah acceptable atau engga, soalnya itu (3) uda muncul pas slidernya belum kelar jadi keknya bingungin deh klo buat pemula
00:39:780 - add note bolehlah buat vocalnya.. kesepian ini (4) ga ada temen deket LOL goblok awakawkawk, tapi masalah e vocal di 00:39:017 - tak skip jadi tik aneh, wez gpp ngene ae
00:53:655 (3) - whistle
00:57:030 - clap
01:16:155 (5) - emg ga ada hitsound d sini ? emboh dah, setz mabok maneh paling pas ngehitsound

gw drpd ada beginner sih lbih prefer ada insane+ :p

gl ce

ticclick : easy all were fixed
hard : i want make a mini jump to emphasis 00:59:642 - piano there

thanks 4 mod ~

Setz

1,419 posts

Joined August 2013

Setz 2016-07-13T01:18:27+00:00

Momochikun

Momochikun wrote:
[setz]
00:05:655 - not to be picky but somehow i can hear that little slider-slide sounds which pretty disturbing, compared to 00:04:155 - which dont have smth like that lol yeah this bothered me too, fixed
00:10:155 (1) - should have a finish considered you add one at 00:12:030 - fixed
00:47:655 (1) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5588573 looks unimportant but yeah it affect the flow pretty much i think fixed
01:09:780 (2) - try a whistle at slidertail
01:15:592 (7) - missing clap ? fixed both
01:35:655 (1,2) - mind moving this farther, i kinda missread as 1/2 pattern lol kkk
01:41:092 (5,1,2) - well i think it's better to get the jump bigger at 1 to 2 instead of 5 to 1 considering the instrument play its tricky due to the previous flow, but i tried to make some changes here

gl ce

ty sir, useful mod

TicClick

TicClick wrote:
[Setz' Waifu <3]
00:20:454 (5) - consider using two 1/4 snapped notes instead, since the difficulty before that point heavily relies on vocals except there is no vocal sound on the blue tick thus causing this to be incorrectly snapped??
00:51:017 (1) - *sigh* if you're going to do that, at least silence the tail to make hitnormal inaudible changed to circle instead
I don't really like it, but.. oh well, whatever. gee willikers, aint that just a gosh darn shame
.

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-NanoRIPE-

2,059 posts

Joined October 2013

-NanoRIPE- 2016-07-13T03:58:47+00:00

Hi kak
patooo patooo ~

[General]
good good

[Beginner]
None ~

[Easy]
00:10:142 (1,3) - terlihat sedikittttt overlap
00:27:392 (5) - gimana kalau 1/2 reverse slider? kayak 00:25:892 (2)
00:36:392 (4) - ctrl j?
01:10:892 (2) - kenapa nggk curve slider aja ~
01:38:642 (1,3) - stacked?

[Normal]
Nice bg :>

00:33:392 (6) - what about curve slider?
00:44:642 (4) - make it symmetry with previous slider
01:41:079 (7) - maybe move up slightly and ctrl h?

[Hard]
01:41:454 (5) - stack di slidertail gimana?

[Setz's waifu <3]
00:30:017 (2) - make it straight? (looks little bit curved)
00:54:392 (3) - make it curve? (looks better for me)

Nice diff ~

GL ~ and sorry for my terrible english and short mod ;w;

Wafu

1,703 posts

Joined June 2011

Wafu 2016-07-13T10:22:36+00:00

From p/5291831

No reliable information on metadata was provided during this, only comparison of 2 unofficial .cue files, which anyone can make on his own. It's most likely copied as the version of EAC used is exactly the same, which is not quite a high chance. Probably just a duplicate.

Anyway, scans of the BD Box are available and there are some things that could be good to know. I'll only post important scans, but can provide others in case.

Scan 1

On the right page, there's the only occurrence of artist and character name together and that's: 関谷なる（CV:上田麗奈）. There is no artist/character name anywhere connected with the song. However 関谷なる（上田麗奈） is nowhere to be seen on the case.

Scan 2

This just proves that the romanization of the artist's name we are using is correct.

Scan 3

This proves that romanization of the character's name we are using is correct.

Scan 4,5

There are two conflicting names for the song title, not sure why does one have brackets and other doesn't. Maybe the "Naru ver." is not a part of the official title, but they don't have it consistent here, so you can choose.

In conclusion, the title is correct, but there is no occurrence of 関谷なる（上田麗奈） on the official box, so it's usage in your map might be incorrect. If you can find any other official resource that states 関谷なる（上田麗奈） or any other form, you can use it as well, but at the current time, it seems invalid.

Please don't refer to unofficial data such as .cue files as these are editable by anyone and can be inaccurate. Only do that if there's absolutely no possibility to get official information about the artist/song. Also space (before romanization) between artist's given name and family name for Japanese arists is almost always incorrect (that's also reason why the artist searching bugs).

Last edited by Wafu 2016-07-13T10:58:44+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

IamKwaN

osu! Alumni

3,905 posts

Joined August 2012

IamKwaN 2016-07-13T10:58:35+00:00

I have downloaded three BD scans which give exactly the same .cue file. That's the last resort we have, I believe. If you still have concerns, can you give us a fallback instead? We have tried hard to find all possible references and ended up nothing official could be found regarding the matter.

Wafu

1,703 posts

Joined June 2011

Wafu 2016-07-13T11:53:21+00:00

We had some discussion with IamKwaN about the artist and concluded that publisher simply doesn't state who performed the album anywhere directly, so there are several options and you can pick basically what you want from these: 関谷なる（CV:上田麗奈）, 関谷なる（上田麗奈） (the same what you have, just without the buggy space, which the artist isn't even using anywhere), 上田麗奈, or 関谷なる (But I don't recommend it. It's used on Setz's map, but official information didn't state it as a "performer" or an "artist" anywhere, so replacing artist with fictional character looks senseless to me, others work well).

Xinely

5,014 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Xinely 2016-07-13T12:43:44+00:00

I believe kwan and appreciate with her struggle so i will keep current metadata, and title is from http://hanayamata.com/discography/detail.php?id=1008863

i will reply nanoripe and garden's mods soon. so busy wtf

Last edited by Xinely 2016-07-15T10:09:00+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Setz

1,419 posts

Joined August 2013

Setz 2016-07-13T22:50:03+00:00

@ -NanoRIPE- I prefer the current slider shapes, so sorry no change

and about the metadata, i will give my opinion even though this isn't my set.
I feel like since there's no official source, we should use 上田麗奈 and Ueda Reina romanized. to ,you know, properly credit the actual performer, since right now the given and family names are reversed in the romanized field. this just makes the most sense to me.
this whole metadata thing is silly. the only reason I used the character as the artist for both of my maps is because that is what it said on the CD, so no credit to the artist was actually given unless you look at tags which is stupid as hell.

But well this is just my opinion, its ultimately up to nely at this point

@Nely when you updatre again, rename my diff to Setz's Yosakoi. I dont think we can get away with the waifu meme

Garden

osu! Alumni

1,345 posts

Joined June 2013

Garden 2016-07-15T06:09:31+00:00

here to mod this in the name of Narcissu as requested in my q, guess he's too stuck in dota these days idk..
[General]

上田麗奈 Ueda Reina are already in artist, so there's no need to add in tags for searching?

[Pata-Mon's Beginner]

2个2个1combo看着略蛋疼，或许4个也无妨
00:28:142 (1) - 01:07:142 (1) - 这俩可以稍微把红锚点调整到tick上，drum或人声较明显

[Easy]

00:13:142 (1) - bend the slider on the slidertick cuz that fits the drum sound better
00:25:892 (2) - imo it flows to 3 visually better this way http://puu.sh/q2fHH/3c676a9459.jpg
01:16:142 (5) - nc maybe. and consider using drum-finishorclap, i believe it needs a stronger hitsound here, same applied to other diffs

[sahuang's Normal]

00:36:767 (7,1,2) - 和这里 00:12:017 (5,6,1) - 一样摆个小三角，或许能overlap得更整洁些
00:49:142 - 可以加个note，有打击感
00:53:642 (5) - 感觉不是很安全，老实把滑条角落露清楚吧

[Hard]

00:12:579 (4) - consider http://puu.sh/q2gJz/1b82bb786f.jpg maybe, current pattern might be easily read as a single-time reversed slider at first try
00:28:704 (2,3) - spacing between sliderheads is sort of weird considering 00:28:142 (1,2) - this spacing, can refer to 00:38:829 (2,3,4) -
00:42:673 - 00:43:048 - 00:55:048 - unused inherited points
01:40:892 (3,4,5) - hope ppl won't get annoyed with a last miss lol

[Setz]

only thing that i wanna mention is that the speedup sliders in the kiai part are not obvious enough, when i first played this i wondered why they're not featured with higher sv, until i saw in the editor that a slight sv change does exist

Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Underforest 2016-07-15T06:12:08+00:00

reina in my language means queen c: owo

Pata-Mon

1,489 posts

Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2016-07-15T12:44:56+00:00

@花园
滑条改了第二个
nc本来就已经是俩小节一个了，不到1星的难度一组4个我都嫌多，就这样吧~

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Xinely

5,014 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Xinely 2016-07-15T13:44:20+00:00

-NanoRIPE- wrote:
Hi kak
patooo patooo ~

[Easy]
00:10:142 (1,3) - terlihat sedikittttt overlap
00:27:392 (5) - gimana kalau 1/2 reverse slider? kayak 00:25:892 (2)
00:36:392 (4) - ctrl j?
01:10:892 (2) - kenapa nggk curve slider aja ~ krn saya anti menstrim hehe
01:38:642 (1,3) - stacked?

[Hard]
01:41:454 (5) - stack di slidertail gimana? flownya lebih enak kalo di stacknya di head

Nice diff ~

GL ~ and sorry for my terrible english and short mod ;w;

Garden wrote:
here to mod this in the name of Narcissu as requested in my q, guess he's too stuck in dota these days idk..
[General]
上田麗奈 Ueda Reina are already in artist, so there's no need to add in tags for searching? believe me because no space between "(" and her name, it doesnt work properly in forum searching, this already happened to my map and setz maps and we just realized lol, so that's why i keep this to tags
[Easy]
00:13:142 (1) - bend the slider on the slidertick cuz that fits the drum sound better
00:25:892 (2) - imo it flows to 3 visually better this way http://puu.sh/q2fHH/3c676a9459.jpg
01:16:142 (5) - nc maybe. and consider using drum-finishorclap, i believe it needs a stronger hitsound here, same applied to other diffs setz who did the hitsoundbut i like drum finish so i apply to my diffs only, its up to GDers to change it or not
[Hard]
00:12:579 (4) - consider http://puu.sh/q2gJz/1b82bb786f.jpg maybe, current pattern might be easily read as a single-time reversed slider at first try
00:28:704 (2,3) - spacing between sliderheads is sort of weird considering 00:28:142 (1,2) - this spacing, can refer to 00:38:829 (2,3,4) -
00:42:673 - 00:43:048 - 00:55:048 - unused inherited points
01:40:892 (3,4,5) - hope ppl won't get annoyed with a last miss lol is that hard to read this O_O
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no reply means fixed, thanks

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Natsu

8,076 posts

Joined September 2012

Natsu 2016-07-16T04:56:09+00:00

Setz's Yosakoi

00:42:767 (5,1) - this is really annoying at first play it looks like 1/2 jump there is nothing similar as this in the whole diff
01:04:142 (1) - this slider looks bad, I mean the last curve looks like an L, I think a similar shape like 00:52:142 (1) - looks alot better
play nice, I disagree with the big 1/4 jump, rest is fine

Hard

00:36:392 (5,6) - nazi, make them parallel will improve visuals at this pattern, current one doesn't looks that nice
01:03:392 (3,4) - this is rhythmically wrong, if you want to follow the music closely, then you need to start the repeat slider at 01:03:767 - if you want to follow the vocals or in 01:03:579 - if you following the drums, your current one starting at the blue tick is confused, since the rhythm is wrong and also the number of repeats is weird.
01:19:142 - 01:19:704 - why aren't you following the melody as you did with 01:17:642 (1,2) - ? seems inconsistent to me

sahuang's Normal

00:42:392 (5) - use 2 circles instead, since both beats need a click action, because they are such strong sounds, mapping them similar as the weak beats at 00:41:642 (4) - makes no sense
00:55:142 (1,2) - spacing, don't look at the editor if you don't use stacking on, look at it in game and you will notice, its a small spacing issue, but worth fixing it
01:03:204 (5) - same here, be careful when stacking, since the stack leniency ruin your spacing, that's why you should map with stacking on that help you to avoid this things.

Easy

00:18:392 (3,1) - tiny spacing error
01:04:892 (2,3,4) - same as above

Pata-Mon's Beginner

your NC usage is really spammy, please use NC every 4 stanzas to avoid that 2 objects combo spam.
00:35:642 (2,2) - rhythm is wrong, 00:37:142 - 00:40:142 - those beats need a click action, since is where the stanza start. Your actual rhythm make the start of the music end in your sliders :c
00:42:392 - same as above
HP drain and OD 0 isn't ok, use atleast 1
tbh I think beginner diffs are not necessary at all they ignore the music too much, anyways I hope you fix those rhythms at least, since you are ignoring really important beats there

Let me know

Setz

1,419 posts

Joined August 2013

Setz 2016-07-16T05:06:47+00:00

Natsu wrote:
Setz's Yosakoi

00:42:767 (5,1) - this is really annoying at first play it looks like 1/2 jump there is nothing similar as this in the whole diff this is perfectly fine due to slider leniency. I have used this same exact pattern in 3 of my ranked maps to emphasize the same type of rhythim and it has never been an issue.
01:04:142 (1) - this slider looks bad, I mean the last curve looks like an L, I think a similar shape like 00:52:142 (1) - looks alot better fixed
play nice, I disagree with the big 1/4 jump, rest is fine
Let me know

ty for the mod sir

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Xinely

5,014 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Xinely 2016-07-16T05:12:03+00:00

Natsu wrote:
Hard

00:36:392 (5,6) - nazi, make them parallel will improve visuals at this pattern, current one doesn't looks that nice
01:03:392 (3,4) - this is rhythmically wrong, if you want to follow the music closely, then you need to start the repeat slider at 01:03:767 - if you want to follow the vocals or in 01:03:579 - if you following the drums, your current one starting at the blue tick is confused, since the rhythm is wrong and also the number of repeats is weird.
01:19:142 - 01:19:704 - why aren't you following the melody as you did with 01:17:642 (1,2) - ? seems inconsistent to me 01:19:329 - 01:19:892 - instrument are louder so that's why i map them, not because i follow drum here

Easy

00:18:392 (3,1) - tiny spacing error
01:04:892 (2,3,4) - same as above

Let me know

no reply means fixed

thanks

waiting sahuang and patamon after that i go to update

sahuang

2,294 posts

Joined December 2014

sahuang 2016-07-16T08:00:56+00:00

Natsu wrote:
sahuang's Normal
00:42:392 (5) - use 2 circles instead, since both beats need a click action, because they are such strong sounds, mapping them similar as the weak beats at 00:41:642 (4) - makes no sense yes,i think so
for the other two idk exactly how to fix them,i changed pattern a bit so in testplay it's easier to hit. idk if it works.
for the first one it should be ok now , but the 01:02:642 (4,5,6) - one is very hard to change,this may change the whole pattern,so imo just leave it like this

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Pata-Mon

1,489 posts

Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2016-07-16T08:02:38+00:00

Natsu wrote:

[b]Pata-Mon's Beginner

your NC usage is really spammy, please use NC every 4 stanzas to avoid that 2 objects combo spam.
00:35:642 (2,2) - rhythm is wrong, 00:37:142 - 00:40:142 - those beats need a click action, since is where the stanza start. Your actual rhythm make the start of the music end in your sliders :c
00:42:392 - same as above all fixed above
HP drain and OD 0 isn't ok, use atleast 1

about hp and od:
https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Easy_(Difficulty)：I didn't see why can't use 0
0 can be chosen in editor. we can't use cs1 or 8 because these can only changed by editing .osu file directly, but hp0 and od0 aren't
normal: ar5 od4 hp4; easy: ar3 od2 hp2; so beginner 1/0/0 is good
I saw some ranked beginner diffs use hp0od0，for example：https://osu.ppy.sh/b/741477

if u still think hp0od0 isn't ok after these, i will change then

tbh I think beginner diffs are not necessary at all they ignore the music too much, anyways I hope you fix those rhythms at least, since you are ignoring really important beats there
Let me know

thanks for mod

@nely 他要还说odhp不行的话就帮我改一下吧~谢谢

SPOILER

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Title:Hana wa Odore ya Irohaniho Naru ver.
TitleUnicode:花ハ踊レヤいろはにほ なるver.
Artist:Naru Sekiya (Reina Ueda)
ArtistUnicode:関谷なる（上田 麗奈）
Creator:Xinely
Version:Pata-Mon's Beginner
Source:ハナヤマタ
Tags:上田麗奈 Ueda Reina hanayamata opening yosakoi Pata-Mon Setz Setz206 sahuang tv size
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Natsu

8,076 posts

Joined September 2012

Natsu 2016-07-16T08:10:03+00:00

@ Patamon and the beginner you linked me is one of the most unnecessary diffs, od and hp 0 are really low that make the diff feels less needed, the map you linked is a meme map that wasn't a serious map, you saw how it is mapped? also take in mind we are discussing your map not monstrata one, and I still think that using 0 for both settings is really ridiculous, so you better give me a good explain and not X mapper did the same.

Pata-Mon

1,489 posts

Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2016-07-16T08:14:01+00:00

Natsu wrote:
@ Patamon and the beginner you linked me is one of the most unnecessary diffs, od and hp 0 are really low that make the diff feels less needed, the map you linked is a meme map that wasn't a serious map, you saw how it is mapped? also take in mind we are discussing your map not monstrata one, and I still think that using 0 for both settings is really ridiculous, so you better give me a good explain and not X mapper did the same.

hmm, I gave 4 reasons, except this one there were still three:

https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Easy_(Difficulty)：I didn't see why can't use 0
0 can be chosen in editor. we can't use cs1 or 8 because these can only changed by editing .osu file directly, but hp0 and od0 aren't
normal: ar5 od4 hp4; easy: ar3 od2 hp2; so beginner 1/0/0 is good

if u don't agree i will change it

Natsu

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Joined September 2012

Natsu 2016-07-16T08:56:31+00:00

Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Underforest 2016-07-18T07:18:42+00:00

Xinely wrote:
Underforest : waaaaa spanish is cute

ikr

HappyRocket88

4,322 posts

Joined May 2014

HappyRocket88 2016-07-24T22:14:50+00:00

Hellow. :3 MOKARINO PAAAATO PAAAAATO

Can you find another BG for the Easy, Xinely? o: It seems a bit weird to have the same of the Beginner difficulty when the rest have different backgrounds. /u\

[

Pata-Mon's Beginner]
I'm really unsure if this don't difficulty is needed in the mapset. I mean, it skips many beats of the song and the Easy is already too Easy to make a bgenniner difficulty. ;w;

01:13:142 (3) - Aesthetically talking, this will look way better if you make it look like this shape 01:26:642 (3) - It wouldn't hurt no one if you give a try. :3
00:15:392 (2,3) - This flow is really forced and since this is a beginner difficulty, it would be way better if objects redirect to others to lead players into intuitive motions. But, sadly this pattern doesn't really suggest where the next note could be. What about this?
00:34:892 (2,3) - Same occurs here. I do believe it would be way better if you did Ctrl + G here to give players the idea the motion isn't being compromised by going up forcefully as this pattern does. You might need to move the other objects to improve the flow section here as well.

[

Easy] uhhh uhhhh UHHHH UHHHHHHHHHHHH I didn't find anything wrong with the difficulty x'D Except for these minor things:

01:23:642 (1) - Add a finish here to highlight the slight sound of the cymbal which comes out here.
00:44:642 (3,4) - Rhythmically talking, this feels better if you do Ctrl + G here. Please, try it.

[

sahuang's Normal] Hi! Really neat difficulty! :3 Just some few issues that worried me a bit:

00:28:142 (1,2,3) - This is by far the only pattern where the vocals are being highlighted in this way. Rhythmically speaking is fine, but I don't think skipping this drum-beat 00:28:892 - here is a good idea. You've been doing nicely in the previous pattern and I don't think this should be the exception since this spot 00:28:892 - is actually stronger than the vocals. Therefore, I suggest you to try out a rhythm like this. What do you think?
00:36:204 (5) - This note feels rather forced because the chain of 1/2 objects is too much for this stanza. Wouldn't it be better if you remove it to keep consistency with the previous patterns? I do believe it plays smoother and nicer without it. Please, try it! Consider doing the same here 01:03:204 (5) -
01:16:142 (1,1) - I'm not sure if this is intentional but fairly saying this would look better if you stacked them respectively. >w<
00:37:142 (1) - How about a whistle on the reverse? It feels somehow empty with no hitounds over that spot. ;w; Consider applying the same here 00:40:142 (1) -
01:20:642 (1) - Add a finish here to highlight the slight sound of the cymbal which comes out here.
01:41:079 (7) - What about removing one reverse and making this 01:41:454 - spot clickeable? Since it's the last object I think it would hurt no one to give it more emphasis since this beat is actually strong to leave is as with the off-beat slider-end.

[

Hard] Lovely hard! I don't really like the triplets but it's up to your way to map to the beats! >w<

00:35:454 (5,1) - What about increasing this spacing as well as you did in the previous patterns?
00:37:142 (1) - 00:40:142 (1) - What about a whistle here? It feels somehow weird with no hitsounds over that spot seeing that the instruments are really loud here.
01:03:767 (4,1) - This part is so tricky and might confuse the actual motion you intend to do here since the lst reverse doesn't redirect well the pattern to follow. By doing Ctrl + G you'll improve significantly the pattern here.
01:39:767 - Add a note here please, the rhythm felt way different without it. ;w;

[

Setz's Yosakoi] Jumps + triangles. XD

01:09:767 (2) - This is not in the blue tick by purpose? I mean, it would be way better if you kept the patterns of the "hai hai" sound you've been building up with the slider-ends snapped to the blue tick.
01:33:392 (3) - Add a reverse here. The pause here feels somehow strange since most of the other pauses were made conisstenly after the 1/1 slider.

[]
That should be all! Call me back!

Sonnyc

7,761 posts

Joined June 2008

Sonnyc 2016-07-24T23:35:43+00:00

Before this gets qualified.

~Pata-Mon's Beginner~

I don't feel this diff is not needed. Actually this kind of thing is what I personally expect to be from Easy difficulties. Current easies aren't this simple. And while this difficulty is quite simple enough, it's not that this is stupidly ignoring stuffs over the song just for the sake of difficulty, but rather is expressing the song in some quality wise.
01:35:642 (1) - Consider removing the combo here. Maybe the current combo setting is fitting the music, but I don't think this part was really noticable to demand a nc. Also since the previous sliders were also the same concept of long slider, keeping in the same combo will feel more organized imo.

~Hard~

00:15:204 (2,3) - Why the random jump?
00:37:142 (1,2) - 00:40:142 (1,2) - These spacings are inconsistent, and making a same spacing will look more organized.
00:59:642 (1,2) - I personally felt this extended slider wasn't working nicely while 01:06:767 (5,1) did.
00:52:704 (2,3) - 01:04:704 (2,3) - These spacings are inconsistent. Personally, the spacing at the back feels like some random jump.

~Setz' Yosakoi~

00:20:454 (5) - I feel the piano sound was actually a little delayed from the rhythms you selected as the following. http://puu.sh/qddBF/c74748c33a.jpg Just using a 1/4 triple would work more accurately imo.
00:35:829 (2,3,4,5,6) - I think you can polish this stream better. Or is it as the intended form?
00:54:767 (1,1) - 01:06:767 (1,1) - Seems you maintained some consistency with the slider shape, but the inconsistent concept of the spacing felt to lack in structure, instead of a nice variation. Mind for some better consistency?
01:40:892 (4,5,1) - I personally felt a little awkward to see this jump being quite intensed compared to the song. Not pretty sure of your intentions here, but anyways you can feel 01:41:267 (1,2) is having a stronger beat, and you have expressed those difference with a clap hitsound. However since the jump started from (4), the stronger beat of (1,2) wasn't being emphasized notably compared to other circles around there.

sahuang's diff has a different kiai setting. Though it is normally fine to have inconsistency between guest diffs, I think you can talk each other to make it more consistent. (I personally prefer sahuang's setting)

Setz

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Joined August 2013

Setz 2016-07-24T23:57:40+00:00

HappyRocket88 wrote:
Hellow. :3 MOKARINO PAAAATO PAAAAATO

[ Setz's Yosakoi] Jumps + triangles. XD
01:09:767 (2) - This is not in the blue tick by purpose? I mean, it would be way better if you kept the patterns of the "hai hai" sound you've been building up with the slider-ends snapped to the blue tick. ok, fixed
01:33:392 (3) - Add a reverse here. The pause here feels somehow strange since most of the other pauses were made conisstenly after the 1/1 slider.
added a note instead for consistency with 01:30:767 (3) -
[]
That should be all! Call me back!

Sonnyc wrote:
Before this gets qualified.

~Setz' Yosakoi~
00:20:454 (5) - I feel the piano sound was actually a little delayed from the rhythms you selected as the following. http://puu.sh/qddBF/c74748c33a.jpg Just using a 1/4 triple would work more accurately imo. When A Mystery was going to rank his full version of the song as seen here https://osu.ppy.sh/s/304979 he looked up the sheet music, and 1/6 was the most accurate representation of the rhythim for this part, if you look at his insane, he used it as well.
00:35:829 (2,3,4,5,6) - I think you can polish this stream better. Or is it as the intended form? cleaned it up a little bit, but it is intentional for flow
00:54:767 (1,1) - 01:06:767 (1,1) - Seems you maintained some consistency with the slider shape, but the inconsistent concept of the spacing felt to lack in structure, instead of a nice variation. Mind for some better consistency? I dont know why, but for some reason in the current latest pending 01:06:767 (1) - was moved to an incorrect location, the pattern is meant to look like this http://puu.sh/qdeTs/4e154b54b5.jpg which is more in line with consistency with the first one. i fixed that mistake with the code i will post for these 2 mods.
01:40:892 (4,5,1) - I personally felt a little awkward to see this jump being quite intensed compared to the song. Not pretty sure of your intentions here, but anyways you can feel 01:41:267 (1,2) is having a stronger beat, and you have expressed those difference with a clap hitsound. However since the jump started from (4), the stronger beat of (1,2) wasn't being emphasized notably compared to other circles around there. to me, this is fine because I hear the piano get very loud where the 4 is, and the spacing of the last 2 notes is big enough to emphasize the sound. that said, i moved these notes around a little bit to make it more clear what I am trying to express here.
sahuang's diff has a different kiai setting. Though it is normally fine to have inconsistency between guest diffs, I think you can talk each other to make it more consistent. (I personally prefer sahuang's setting)

thanks for the mods guys, as pointed out in my response to sonnyc, 01:06:767 (1) - had been moved to a seemingly random place at some point by accident, but i noticed it while checking HR's mod, so this all should be taken care of now.

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Xinely

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Topic Starter

Xinely 2016-07-25T02:02:21+00:00

HappyRocket88 wrote:
Hellow. :3 MOKARINO PAAAATO PAAAAATO

Can you find another BG for the Easy, Xinely? o: It seems a bit weird to have the same of the Beginner difficulty when the rest have different backgrounds. /u\ ok i use old bg for his gd

[ Easy] uhhh uhhhh UHHHH UHHHHHHHHHHHH I didn't find anything wrong with the difficulty x'D Except for these minor things:
01:23:642 (1) - Add a finish here to highlight the slight sound of the cymbal which comes out here.
00:44:642 (3,4) - Rhythmically talking, this feels better if you do Ctrl + G here. Please, try it.fixed all
Hard] Lovely hard! I don't really like the triplets but it's up to your way to map to the beats! >w<
00:35:454 (5,1) - What about increasing this spacing as well as you did in the previous patterns?
00:37:142 (1) - 00:40:142 (1) - What about a whistle here? It feels somehow weird with no hitsounds over that spot seeing that the instruments are really loud here. whistle for where btw, if head, it has already w
01:03:767 (4,1) - This part is so tricky and might confuse the actual motion you intend to do here since the lst reverse doesn't redirect well the pattern to follow. By doing Ctrl + G you'll improve significantly the pattern here.
01:39:767 - Add a note here please, the rhythm felt way different without it. ;w;

no reply means fixed too, thanks HR >w<

for sonnyc, im lazy to make template so
00:15:204 (2,3) - those jumps are for pianos
00:37:142 (1,2) - those jumps are for emphasis strong drums
00:59:642 (1,2) - fixed
00:52:704 (2,3) - but they use 1,2x ? D:

thanks sonnyc ~

updated with setz's diff

sahuang

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Joined December 2014

sahuang 2016-07-25T02:03:59+00:00

Do u want to set kiai as mine or I change it? Anyways I will respond to mods and pls change it on ur own accord D

Pata-Mon

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Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2016-07-25T02:40:02+00:00

@HappyRocket88 All fixed
@Sonnyc Thanks for ur support~ about the nc issue, i use nc every two bar lines, so changing this here is a bit weird for me. if possible i wanna keep xD

Thanks for ur mods!

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Xinely

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Topic Starter

Xinely 2016-07-25T03:29:46+00:00

oh yeah i forgot the kiai. fixed like sahuang's did

updated patamon's beginner

sahuang

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Joined December 2014

sahuang 2016-07-25T09:18:46+00:00

HappyRocket88 wrote:
Hellow. :3 MOKARINO PAAAATO PAAAAATO

[ sahuang's Normal] Hi! Really neat difficulty! :3 Just some few issues that worried me a bit:
00:28:142 (1,2,3) - This is by far the only pattern where the vocals are being highlighted in this way. Rhythmically speaking is fine, but I don't think skipping this drum-beat 00:28:892 - here is a good idea. You've been doing nicely in the previous pattern and I don't think this should be the exception since this spot 00:28:892 - is actually stronger than the vocals. Therefore, I suggest you to try out a rhythm like this. What do you think?
>>hmm, i actually think both ideas make sense. i really want to follow vocal here. i some times ignore beats such as 00:26:079 - to keep the rhythm easy and shape to look better. i agree that 00:28:892 - and 00:29:079 - may have louder music,but for this one i wanna emphasise vocal 00:28:704 -
besides i think if i do like reverse slider+2 circles the shape will be pretty hard to adjust,and i guess half of the rest shapes and patterns will need an adjustment. since now it looks ok and im indeed following music+vocal to a certain extent,i believe it's fine?
00:36:204 (5) - This note feels rather forced because the chain of 1/2 objects is too much for this stanza. Wouldn't it be better if you remove it to keep consistency with the previous patterns? I do believe it plays smoother and nicer without it. Please, try it! Consider doing the same here 01:03:204 (5) -
>>well i intended to follow vocal here,and im pretty sure there's a beat over these 2 places. i can try tho,if you insist,but i'd like to keep it for now:)
01:16:142 (1,1) - I'm not sure if this is intentional but fairly saying this would look better if you stacked them respectively. >w<
ayyy my fault,fixed
00:37:142 (1) - How about a whistle on the reverse? It feels somehow empty with no hitounds over that spot. ;w; Consider applying the same here 00:40:142 (1) - yes i think so!
01:20:642 (1) - Add a finish here to highlight the slight sound of the cymbal which comes out here. k
01:41:079 (7) - What about removing one reverse and making this 01:41:454 - spot clickeable? Since it's the last object I think it would hurt no one to give it more emphasis since this beat is actually strong to leave is as with the off-beat slider-end. true,i guess it works better. tbh i used what you suggested before but then changed,idk why lol

thanks a lot,maybe tell me more about what u think about the first 2 rejections by me? generally speaking they dont affect gameplay; for the first one if i take your advise it will take me quite some time to rearrange the shape and i think it's not worthwhile since i also follow sth here, for the latter it's simply personal preference i can say

HR without HD

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HappyRocket88

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Joined May 2014

HappyRocket88 2016-07-25T22:43:43+00:00

sahuang I agree with your reason at making the pattern 00:28:142 (1,2,3) - to play like this; however, regarding the second suggestion, if you decided to add notes over the spots I suggested to remove, then why don't we turn this 00:56:642 (4) - into a 1/2 slider with a reverse to highlight vocals as well as you did at the beginning of the verse 00:55:142 (1) - ? or maybe add a note here too 00:55:142 (1) - ? o:

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00:37:142 (1) - 00:40:142 (1) - Oh! What I meant with these was add whistles over the slider-reverses ><
01:20:642 (1) - Add a finish here. :3

That should be all! Rawr (´・ω・)っ

sahuang

2,294 posts

Joined December 2014

sahuang 2016-07-25T22:55:14+00:00

yes sure,deleted now for the 2 notes and adjusted ds :w;

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Title:Hana wa Odore ya Irohaniho Naru ver.
TitleUnicode:花ハ踊レヤいろはにほ なるver.
Artist:Naru Sekiya (Reina Ueda)
ArtistUnicode:関谷なる（上田 麗奈）
Creator:Xinely
Version:sahuang's Normal
Source:ハナヤマタ
Tags:上田麗奈 Ueda Reina hanayamata opening yosakoi Pata-Mon Setz Setz206 sahuang tv size
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HappyRocket88

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HappyRocket88 2016-07-25T23:51:26+00:00

(ノ･ω･)ノ

Underforest

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Underforest 2016-07-25T23:58:57+00:00

gratz
rocket pls check my map ;w;

sahuang

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sahuang 2016-07-25T23:59:52+00:00

nice nice

-Sh1n1-

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-Sh1n1- 2016-07-26T03:32:15+00:00

*-*/ Gratz Meli-chan <3

-NanoRIPE-

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-NanoRIPE- 2016-07-26T06:14:10+00:00

Grats kak ~

Wafu

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Wafu 2016-07-26T15:36:17+00:00

I'm sorry, but I really don't get this. p/5312138
"I believe KwaN" is not far from no-sense. You should treat everyone equally, nobody is more correct because you consider his effort as a struggle. Moreover, I and KwaN made a conclusion about title in the end, because I provided official information on it, respectively, on the gap between artist's family and first name. The conclusion we made was this: p/5312027

You should read it again, because I mentioned what are the problems and what changes should be done, what options can be correct. You didn't respond to it at all and rather than that ignored it due to your belief in KwaN, although she claimed this, which is against anything you said in the post: http://puu.sh/qf8kU/1b868d16e9.png
I'm sorry to be nitpicky here, but this should have been addressed, answered properly and nominating BNs should be checking if all mods were responded properly.

I also don't get why artist is here twice, both romanized and Japanese versions are in tags. I also mentioned it and no response was given.

Good luck.

Setz

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Setz 2016-07-26T18:23:54+00:00

as for your last point, i will respond to it since i was the one that told her to add the artist to tags.

when you have long and stupidly convoluted artist names, you run into problems searching on the website. for example https://osu.ppy.sh/s/437279
for this map, try searching for Ueda Reina or Taneda Risa on the website, the map will not appear.

so, for that reason p/5304633 i told her to add those tags in this post.

Natsu

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Natsu 2016-07-26T18:35:19+00:00

Wafu there is no problem for duplicate tags, also Xinely actually replied you and trusting in a person more than other is fine, also we talked about the metadata with Xinely as well and we agreed with Kwan.

anyways Gratz!

Wafu

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Wafu 2016-07-26T19:45:43+00:00

@Natsu and @Setz: I'm not saying you cannot have duplicate tags, but what I suggested at least solved the lack for her Japanese in name (the gap between family and first name does that issue). Xinely said nothing to it, but well, that would be relatively fine, just nothing was addressed regarding this.

@Natsu: What? You state that you agreed with KwaN? Firstly, we made conclusion with KwaN on which KwaN agreed and claimed to tell Xinely after he/she probably didn't read what I said. That probably didn't happen or Xinely ignored what KwaN said. We had a long discussion about it and we both agreed on the result, I even claimed it in the post I sent. So by saying that you agree with KwaN, you're basically doing the opposite of it. By saying that "trusting in a person more than other is fine", you basically turn it into completely insensible argument - In that case, it's preference for person's opinion VS. official data (which I've given and KwaN agreed on them). If Xinely read that post, she couldn't respond with "I agree with KwaN's opinion, no fix", because I literally claimed that I and KwaN made this conclusion. Xinely's response doesn't make any sense here: http://puu.sh/qfmo0/fe6f78dc82.png

I'm not saying to DQ this for that (in case DQ would happen for any reason, don't exclude official data because you know the person, especially when they concluded something else than what you did). So just in case someone finds something, address it. It was conclusion between me and KwaN because we had a little bit more precise data, but you kept it according to her older opinion for no valid reason. The only reason I post this is so people don't skip things so easily, the thing Xinely said just looked like she read my name and was like "nope, KwaN is correct", even though I was talking about thing that KwaN concluded with me. I don't have anything against you, Xinely nor anyone else involved, but I want you to be aware that your reasoning was not in correspondence with what KwaN told me and confirmed that I can state in the thread.

Edit, response to next post: Yes, it's just a space so it's correct with artist's official website. That's why I and KwaN concluded possible artist names 13 days ago. We had quite a long discussion to exclude what should definitely not be used and what could be acceptable. I believe we should skip this, but in case this is disqualified for serious issue, then there's something what mapper skipped, that's all.

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Natsu

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Natsu 2016-07-26T19:57:40+00:00

I talked with wafu in private, seems the problem is just an empty space.

Edit: but seems isn't something unrankable, but should be fixed in case the map gets DQ for something else

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Setz

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Setz 2016-07-26T20:29:28+00:00

I didnt look at what xinely had, but i actually agree, there shouldnt be a space between given and family name. this is pretty much the norm with all japanese names unless it appears otherwise in some kind of official source.

that said, if this does get DQed, remove 上田麗奈 from tags since you would be removing the space in the artist field, but keep "Ueda Reina" since this is still needed for search on the site.

even though the tags dont really matter much, the main issue is the space.

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