Falcom Sound Team jdk - Ys series Songs Compilation · forum

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Title:Ys series Songs Compilation
TitleUnicode:Ys series Songs Compilation
Artist:Falcom Sound Team jdk
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Creator:Adol Christin
Version:LAST MOMENT OF DARK
Source:Ys series
Tags:Genesis Beyond the Beginning Quatera Woods Legend of Five Great Dragons Scarlet Tempest Over Drive Foliage Ocean in Celceta Gust Wind Innocent Primeval Breaker Varestein Castle Sunshine Coastline To make end battle rpg violin
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blueloniess

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368,208,223026,1,0,0:0:0:0:
372,200,223123,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,184,223220,2,0,L|404:76,1,85,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
296,24,223414,5,2,0:0:0:0:
292,32,223511,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,40,223607,1,2,0:0:0:0:
284,48,223704,1,0,0:0:0:0:
280,64,223801,2,0,L|252:172,1,85
452,328,223994,5,8,0:0:0:0:
456,320,224091,1,0,0:0:0:0:
460,312,224187,1,0,0:0:0:0:
464,304,224284,1,0,0:0:0:0:
468,288,224381,2,0,L|504:144,1,127.500004863739,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
412,20,224768,1,8,0:0:0:0:
352,75,224962,6,0,L|292:56,1,63.7500024318696,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
412,24,225155,2,0,P|432:96|376:160,1,127.500004863739,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
316,172,225446,6,0,L|240:148,1,63.7500024318696,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
184,216,225639,2,0,L|123:235,1,63.7500024318696
123,235,225833,1,0,0:0:0:0:
123,235,225930,1,0,0:0:0:0:
40,24,226123,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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212,280,226994,5,0,0:0:0:0:
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340,272,227381,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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436,288,228155,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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385,193,229704,1,0,0:0:0:0:
385,193,229801,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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236,48,230188,2,0,L|304:36,1,63.7500024318696
168,152,230381,2,0,L|230:163,1,63.7500024318696
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328,280,230962,2,0,B|236:280|236:324|130:323,1,191.250007295609
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35,170,238220,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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84,350,238607,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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444,278,238994,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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411,232,246059,1,0,0:0:0:0:
423,231,246155,1,0,0:0:0:0:
435,228,246252,2,0,L|501:215,1,63.7500024318696
326,156,246446,1,0,0:0:0:0:
314,155,246542,1,0,0:0:0:0:
302,152,246639,2,0,L|236:139,1,63.7500024318696
398,71,246833,1,0,0:0:0:0:
410,70,246929,1,0,0:0:0:0:
422,67,247026,2,0,L|488:54,1,63.7500024318696
305,26,247220,1,0,0:0:0:0:
293,25,247316,1,0,0:0:0:0:
281,22,247414,2,0,L|215:9,1,63.7500024318696
0,119,247607,1,0,0:0:0:0:
0,119,247897,2,0,L|187:155,1,191.250007295609
363,150,248381,1,0,0:0:0:0:
369,158,248575,1,0,0:0:0:0:
369,158,248672,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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363,76,249155,2,0,P|438:119|410:232,1,191.250007295609
219,291,249688,1,0,0:0:0:0:
217,292,249930,2,0,B|284:292|284:263|359:260,1,127.500004863739
466,308,250220,1,0,0:0:0:0:
466,308,250317,2,0,L|486:216,1,63.7500024318696
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310,175,251672,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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376,273,252059,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,273,252155,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,252252,12,0,256897,0:0:0:0:

基本没连打了

Last edited by blueloniess 2017-03-16T15:18:10+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Bonsai

1,212 posts

Joined July 2011

Bonsai 2017-03-12T14:03:44+00:00

Ahoy, delivering the timing for the two parts you asked for, here's a timing-diff so you can copypaste the red lines into your diff~
also you might need some mp3-fixing for the section at 11:11:310 - bc it gets pretty off sometimes, or just red lines everywhere, idk tho

@blueloniess: Can you put your walls of code into boxes? It's a bit hard to navigate through the thread like this ^^

Adol Christin

875 posts

Joined October 2012

Topic Starter

Adol Christin 2017-03-12T17:10:00+00:00

Bonsai wrote:
Ahoy, delivering the timing for the two parts you asked for, here's a timing-diff so you can copypaste the red lines into your diff~
also you might need some mp3-fixing for the section at 11:11:310 - bc it gets pretty off sometimes, or just red lines everywhere, idk tho

@blueloniess: Can you put your walls of code into boxes? It's a bit hard to navigate through the thread like this ^^

lol, didn't expect that fast... really, really thank you for ur help.

edit: about the 11:11:310 - section, one of my friend told me this song is so complicated that he gave it up and mapped another version instead, lol.....

blueloniess

364 posts

Joined February 2014

blueloniess 2017-03-16T15:16:58+00:00

Bonsai wrote:
Ahoy, delivering the timing for the two parts you asked for, here's a timing-diff so you can copypaste the red lines into your diff~
also you might need some mp3-fixing for the section at 11:11:310 - bc it gets pretty off sometimes, or just red lines everywhere, idk tho

@blueloniess: Can you put your walls of code into boxes? It's a bit hard to navigate through the thread like this ^^

oh, sry for see this so late

I will try to delete it XD

thanks for your suggestion !

Fushimi Rio

Fushimi Rio 2017-03-28T16:24:50+00:00

SPOILER

00:10 Adol Christin: 从11:11:836 -
00:10 Adol Christin: 到12:13:485 -
00:10 Adol Christin: 这一段除了最后三根红线是Bonsai搞的，剩下都是我搞的
00:11 Adol Christin: 就是想确认下，前面的红线是否靠谱
00:11 imoutosan: 他没顺便帮你看一下吗……
00:12 Adol Christin: 并没有啊，之前没留意这段问题那么多
00:13 Adol Christin: 我之前让他帮忙看另外两端的，他搞完之后，说，这段你可能需要找人改下mp3
00:13 Adol Christin: 我并找不到，就去找了教程自学自搞了
00:13 imoutosan: 11:22:319 - 
00:13 imoutosan: 这条有点不准
00:14 imoutosan: 197.5 不到198
00:14 Adol Christin: 试着调下
00:15 Adol Christin: 改成了197.5，大概过10多秒后,感觉到了明显的违和感
00:15 imoutosan: 那大概就是我听歪了……
00:16 imoutosan: 那个啥
00:16 Adol Christin: 也没那么远，过两个小节就能听到分别了
00:16 imoutosan: 12:07:212 - 
00:16 imoutosan: 这条下在红线上不合适吧……
00:17 Adol Christin: 是指绿线吗
00:17 imoutosan: 红线
00:17 imoutosan: 这个是把重音提前半拍
00:17 imoutosan: 拍子还是应该按原来的白线来的……
00:18 Adol Christin: 那大概是前面那根红线的问题吧
00:18 imoutosan: 前面的我听着也没歪
00:18 imoutosan: 咋说呢 这种情况屙屎的timing是没法处理的……
00:18 imoutosan: 我估计所以bonsai让你改mp3
00:18 Adol Christin: 前面那根红线的位置，就相当于以上一个小节半拍的位置起的音
00:19 imoutosan: 这条红线之后downbeat全在红线上了 本来应该还是在大白线上
00:19 imoutosan: 然而屙屎的timing只要改bpm就必须换白线
00:20 imoutosan: 所以有点垃圾
00:20 Adol Christin: 这个问题可以隔半拍再加一根红线
00:20 Adol Christin: 还能解决下吧
00:21 imoutosan: 可以吧
00:21 imoutosan: 应该好一点
00:21 imoutosan: 别的没问题了
00:21 Adol Christin: 加上了
00:21 Adol Christin: k
00:21 imoutosan: 有问题都是屙屎背锅

Shad0w1and

1,588 posts

Joined April 2011

Shad0w1and 2017-06-08T07:48:47+00:00

01:06:539 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 这一串，看音效没问题，但是前提那是串。然而你现在的短滑条的话，滑条尾的音效明显太重而且太乱了，我听得无比憋屈，建议
1/2音效在滑条头

SPOILER

236,289,66539,6,0,L|173:298,1,42.5,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
309,332,66722,2,0,L|263:376,1,42.5,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
397,342,66905,2,0,L|392:405,1,42.5,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
479,308,67088,2,0,L|500:354,1,42.5,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
496,222,67271,2,0,L|476:184,1,42.5,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
377,142,67454,2,0,L|370:184,1,42.5,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
512,181,67637,2,0,L|492:143,1,42.5,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
345,98,67820,2,0,L|338:140,1,42.5,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

01:12:393 (1,2,3,4) - 同理，后略
01:19:435 - 01:19:618 - 用滑条尾盖住
01:29:953 - break拉到01:30:340 -
01:57:437 (2) - 01:55:114 (3,4) - 为什么不一样
02:29:178 - 02:29:372 - 单点，前面一堆单点改成几个滑条
02:37:695 (1,2,3) - 间距统一
02:57:590 - break又没snap上downbeat，后略
03:44:443 (1) - 03:47:540 (1,2,3) - 03:50:637 (1,2,3) - 不一样？
08:24:717 - 单点 08:24:879 - 滑条
12:07:501 (2) - 几乎挡住slider track

Last edited by Shad0w1and 2017-06-12T01:31:49+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

kanor

925 posts

Joined August 2013

kanor 2017-06-09T01:43:24+00:00

[Genal]
AIMOD一堆unsnapped。。。

12:21:884 - 这个绿线也unsnapped了
combo color没设定

03:41:347 - 这里的红绿线音效组不一致

04:22:013 - ^
06:49:938 - ^
09:51:289 - 音量不一致

11:34:501 - 同时开关kiai

12:13:481 - ^

[Last Moment]
00:32:698 (6,7,1) - 没叠好

00:55:929 (5,6,7,1) - 这里明明是671三连摆的却像567.....这个太坑了吧

02:48:533 (3,4) - 这里ds突然的拉进感觉有点不明所以....
03:14:194 (1,2) - 这种滑条我还是比较建议复制粘贴拉对称好看一点，不然总感觉有点不舒服（
04:37:013 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 这一段我感觉塞的太简单了....明明有辣么多1/4可以塞QWQ
05:01:013 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^
05:23:513 (1) - 这个NC应该是多余的？
其他的感觉没甚么多说的啦，GL

Adol Christin

875 posts

Joined October 2012

Topic Starter

Adol Christin 2017-06-09T18:15:46+00:00

很多挺蠢的问题我在下音效的时候发现了，当时没有上传。。

kanor wrote:
[Genal]
AIMOD一堆unsnapped。。。改了，现在aimod清净多了
12:21:884 - 这个绿线也unsnapped了
combo color没设定
03:41:347 - 这里的红绿线音效组不一致
04:22:013 - ^
06:49:938 - ^
09:51:289 - 音量不一致
11:34:501 - 同时开关kiai
12:13:481 - ^ 改了

[Last Moment]
00:32:698 (6,7,1) - 没叠好改了
00:55:929 (5,6,7,1) - 这里明明是671三连摆的却像567.....这个太坑了吧这个有印象，下音效的时候整个人都傻掉了。。改成567了
02:48:533 (3,4) - 这里ds突然的拉进感觉有点不明所以.... 目的是让鼓点的变化突出出来，个人乐感感觉这里减间距比较合曲
03:14:194 (1,2) - 这种滑条我还是比较建议复制粘贴拉对称好看一点，不然总感觉有点不舒服（窝草这都让你看出来了。。本来是复制粘贴的，后面不小心把bpm弄乱了手调了一下。改了
04:37:013 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 这一段我感觉塞的太简单了....明明有辣么多1/4可以塞QWQ 就是因为能塞1/4的地方太多了，多到一个地方下了另一个地方也得跟着下。作为一个I难度的组曲，我想留给玩家一些喘息的时间。这段比较合适这么做。你可以看看kite的同名图：https://osu.ppy.sh/b/127846，连打多得打到你手酸。
05:01:013 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^
05:23:513 (1) - 这个NC应该是多余的？我这儿看是没有的，可能之前改过了
其他的感觉没甚么多说的啦，GL

谢谢关照

Shad0w1and

1,588 posts

Joined April 2011

Shad0w1and 2017-06-12T01:30:42+00:00

贴错了

Adol Christin

875 posts

Joined October 2012

Topic Starter

Adol Christin 2017-06-20T18:04:25+00:00

Shad0w1and wrote:
01:06:539 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 这一串，看音效没问题，但是前提那是串。然而你现在的短滑条的话，滑条尾的音效明显太重而且太乱了，我听得无比憋屈，建议这个我觉得不好，这一段我的策略还是跟音乐的。
1/2音效在滑条头
SPOILER
236,289,66539,6,0,L|173:298,1,42.5,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
309,332,66722,2,0,L|263:376,1,42.5,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
397,342,66905,2,0,L|392:405,1,42.5,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
479,308,67088,2,0,L|500:354,1,42.5,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
496,222,67271,2,0,L|476:184,1,42.5,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
377,142,67454,2,0,L|370:184,1,42.5,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
512,181,67637,2,0,L|492:143,1,42.5,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
345,98,67820,2,0,L|338:140,1,42.5,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
01:12:393 (1,2,3,4) - 同理，后略同理
01:19:435 - 01:19:618 - 用滑条尾盖住
01:29:953 - break拉到01:30:340 -
01:57:437 (2) - 01:55:114 (3,4) - 为什么不一样因为我觉得两种做法都是合曲的，求个变化。
02:29:178 - 02:29:372 - 单点，前面一堆单点改成几个滑条
02:37:695 (1,2,3) - 间距统一
02:57:590 - break又没snap上downbeat，后略这个我只能改一部分，因为新一曲的红线不一定能拉这么靠前来满足条件

08:24:717 - 单点 08:24:879 - 滑条
12:07:501 (2) - 几乎挡住slider track

没回的都改了，等音效完成再传。谢摸

[Crz]Makii

450 posts

Joined November 2014

[Crz]Makii 2017-07-04T17:42:05+00:00

m4mback
[Dark]

00:35:076 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1) - 我感觉00:35:076 (5,6,7,8,9) - 你这里折一下 00:35:442 (9,10,11,12,1) - 这又顺着下来前后不大统一吧...
00:43:673 (3) - 怎么看怎么蛋疼...不如这样? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8509620
00:51:905 (1,3,4) - .我觉得不如调个sl0.3让它们叠一块算了现在看起来有点像那种没叠好(但实际上因为sl的缘故只能这么叠)
01:21:905 (1,2,3,4) - 。这里不是挺明显的1/4嘛...
02:32:077 (2) - 这个不如叠到后面那个滑条上，02:34:012 (6,1) - 就像这种。主要刚打完一个串突然冒出一个原地1/2叠很可能就是50
03:16:081 (2,3) - 太近了点吧
03:48:121 (4,5,6) - ??确定要这么做吗感觉会被搞，这一段都没这种拆分3连
03:55:282 (7) - 变速NC
03:55:959 (8,9) - 叠好，顺便修一下blanket
03:57:895 - 这感觉也应该有个圈
04:02:056 (2,3,1) - ...我真的觉得马拉松放这种就是找事的(
04:04:379 (11,12) - 跳有点大，04:04:572 (12) - ctrl+G吧
04:05:637 (1,2) - .这一点也看不出是个1/4，误导性过高
04:06:121 (3) - 这里应该是个NC点吧，是新的一段节奏了。感觉这段NC都有点乱
04:12:314 - 个人建议加个圈然后转盘后拉1/4
04:44:513 (1,2,3,4) - 这个也有误导性，建议要不然就全NC出来要不然就弄再大间距
05:13:013 (1,2,3) - ^
06:11:217 (3,5) - 都NC出来吧...
06:29:425 (3,4,5,6,1) - 这间距我没看懂...
06:43:992 - 这里还是做成打击音好一些
08:01:937 - 从这开始音逐渐变高了，感觉排列应该是越来越大间距才对，现在有点体现不了音乐
10:05:558 (1) - 感觉滑条速度稍微有点快了
12:01:274 (1,2) - 这太容易当1/4了，打成二连然后就miss 建议马拉松快到末尾的地方别搞这种...
12:46:926 (1) - 可能会被搞，出格子了

蛮好听2333 GL~

blueloniess

364 posts

Joined February 2014

blueloniess 2017-07-05T11:58:39+00:00

你太流弊，这么长的歌硬是给做完了...我还以为你会找很多麻婆一起collab的....
大保健说的地方我基本都改了(就是那些有误导性的1/4物件XD

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Adol Christin

875 posts

Joined October 2012

Topic Starter

Adol Christin 2017-07-05T12:29:05+00:00

[Crz]Sword wrote:
m4mback
[Dark]
00:35:076 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1) - 我感觉00:35:076 (5,6,7,8,9) - 你这里折一下 00:35:442 (9,10,11,12,1) - 这又顺着下来前后不大统一吧...
00:43:673 (3) - 怎么看怎么蛋疼...不如这样? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8509620 不好。这里是想做一个跟左边平行的，搞成竖的感觉不太符合我审美。
00:51:905 (1,3,4) - .我觉得不如调个sl0.3让它们叠一块算了现在看起来有点像那种没叠好(但实际上因为sl的缘故只能这么叠)
01:21:905 (1,2,3,4) - 。这里不是挺明显的1/4嘛...
02:32:077 (2) - 这个不如叠到后面那个滑条上，02:34:012 (6,1) - 就像这种。主要刚打完一个串突然冒出一个原地1/2叠很可能就是50
03:16:081 (2,3) - 太近了点吧
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04:44:513 (1,2,3,4) - 这个也有误导性，建议要不然就全NC出来要不然就弄再大间距我觉得不会吧。拉远了主要是会碰着后面物件太多，影响整洁
05:13:013 (1,2,3) - ^ 这个比上一个短，所以改了
06:11:217 (3,5) - 都NC出来吧... keep，个人感觉这个不难读，没必要
06:29:425 (3,4,5,6,1) - 这间距我没看懂... 跟的吉他的旋律。这里想处理成一个特殊的梗
06:43:992 - 这里还是做成打击音好一些刚刚我试了两万种排列和间距，感觉都还是不如滑条合曲。。
08:01:937 - 从这开始音逐渐变高了，感觉排列应该是越来越大间距才对，现在有点体现不了音乐实际上不论间距还是sv我都是做的递增啊。这里已经180bpm了，I难度的compilation间距太大感觉容易过难了。
10:05:558 (1) - 感觉滑条速度稍微有点快了
12:01:274 (1,2) - 这太容易当1/4了，打成二连然后就miss 建议马拉松快到末尾的地方别搞这种... 不同意，这个滑条是规则的，看滑条长度和缩圈距离，应该很明显就能辨别了
12:46:926 (1) - 可能会被搞，出格子了我选择了一个4:3的分辨率test，发现并没有出去。谁搞事，谁就在挑战rc= =
蛮好听2333 GL~

没有回复的都改掉了。非常感谢

gary00737

593 posts

Joined February 2015

gary00737 2017-07-17T05:14:50+00:00

水摸行動 ... 但這圖看了好多次 (感覺好看

04:01:476 (1,2,3,4) - http://i.imgur.com/okhIEGD.png 有點奇怪的樣子
04:03:024 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 是不是人手擺的..感覺上不齊

04:44:513 (1,2,3,4) - 因為前面給人感覺是連打所以以為這也是看看能不能調一下間距
05:01:013 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 感覺上中間可以做點變化加上音樂有支援例如05:01:575 (4,5,6) - 05:03:075 (4,5,6) -
05:03:638 (7,8) - 這個感覺可以3連打
後面也有段可以這樣做不然感覺組曲裡這段最違和

05:42:431 (4,1) - 這個看看要不要NC互換感覺會好一點
06:11:217 (3,5) - 這2個也NC 會比較有感覺
06:16:766 (2) - 這個看你要不要疊06:25:610 (4) - 因為看起來跟3很近但有1/1的空拍
06:42:951 (2,3) - 疊好?

07:45:104 (3) - 看你要不要NC

08:37:366 (3,1) - 這2NC互換
09:12:393 (1,2,3,4) - 給我感覺是愈來愈強. 可是DS看起來有點迷..

11:19:834 (1,2) - 這2個看你要不要疊起來之後把 11:20:603 (3,1) - NC互換

12:44:069 (4,1) - 看你要不要NC互換
13:42:498 (5,6) - 感覺把這2個也NC 好像不錯 XD

好喇完成. 好聽

最後一首的FLOW有點卡整體上..我學習了很多東西謝謝你

_MiaoFUuU_

314 posts

Joined April 2014

_MiaoFUuU_ 2017-07-17T07:16:10+00:00

来送摸了，我的2KDS位被占了

LAST MOMENT OF DARK

个人认为需要再另加一个哨音去跟旋律，例如00:38:734 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - 01:08:003 - 01:08:551 - 等等，全程打起来鼓点音效比较沉重，打不出要的感觉，反而我屏蔽了音效打的更舒服，旋律才是卖点啊。
00:37:820 (4,6) - 这两个可以和前面一样分开，叠着不好看
00:55:381 - 这里排版和你整体不对啊，滑条开头放这吧
01:51:625 - 这里放滑条更好吧
02:02:464 - 做成这样的节奏试试 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8611100
03:27:779 - 这里要放按的
03:33:816 - ↑
03:58:379 (7) - NC
04:04:572 (12) - NC
04:05:637 (1) - 取消NC
04:38:513 - 这部分后面建议做成这样的折返，每个白线红线以及红线后的蓝线加whistle https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8611125
04:40:013 - ↑
05:01:013 - 这部分不该做成单点，考虑1/4短滑条或者1/2滑条
05:06:263 (9) - 这个放的和连打弧度不对
05:07:013 - 同上
06:30:639 (1) - 取消NC，和大致NC一样
06:42:951 (2,3) - stack
07:26:604 (1,1,1,1) - 距离应该越来越大
07:36:771 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - 左右距离递增均匀，上下距离递增不均匀
07:39:437 (1,1,1) - 这里距离保持一致
07:42:104 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - 距离递增好，注意圈交集的面积
08:37:933 (2,3) - stack
12:12:866 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - 做成弧形连打
13:04:069 (1,2,3,4) - bpm太高了，不要叠起来，要么把这两个叠上13:04:641 (5,6) -

Lily Bread

1,228 posts

Joined December 2014

Lily Bread 2017-07-18T13:28:22+00:00

as request

00:43:125 (1,3) - 1往下弯一点，3往上弯一点好像更好

02:09:044 (3) - 1/2滑条加圈似乎不错

03:46:282 (2,3) - 连接有点不顺畅

03:59:927 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ 可以把串往下弯一点

04:01:476 (1,2,3) - 叠的有点问题

gl

（有点长所以没看完，因为我最近懒到家了）

Adol Christin

875 posts

Joined October 2012

Topic Starter

Adol Christin 2017-07-19T05:29:24+00:00

gary00737 wrote:
水摸行動 ... 但這圖看了好多次 (感覺好看

04:44:513 (1,2,3,4) - 因為前面給人感覺是連打所以以為這也是看看能不能調一下間距
05:01:013 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 感覺上中間可以做點變化加上音樂有支援例如05:01:575 (4,5,6) - 05:03:075 (4,5,6) - 理论上是可以加一些三连什么的。但我个人想尽量简化这儿的节奏，这样手感比较清爽。
05:03:638 (7,8) - 這個感覺可以3連打
後面也有段可以這樣做不然感覺組曲裡這段最違和这一段使用全1/2，主要是因为旋律重复度高，鼓点反而没那么分明。这样处理流畅一些，也比较符合I难度的需求。如果改三连，主要图的是鼓点，那么整段都不会这样处理了。所以keep

05:42:431 (4,1) - 這個看看要不要NC互換感覺會好一點大白线对应一个小节最重的音，而空拍我觉得没难读到需要NC强调，所以不换
06:11:217 (3,5) - 這2個也NC 會比較有感覺
06:16:766 (2) - 這個看你要不要疊 06:25:610 (4) - 因為看起來跟3很近但有1/1的空拍:arrow: 叠起来显得太拥挤，我稍微往远处拉了一些
06:42:951 (2,3) - 疊好?

07:45:104 (3) - 看你要不要NC keep，理由跟上一个nc一样

08:37:366 (3,1) - 這2NC互換
09:12:393 (1,2,3,4) - 給我感覺是愈來愈強. 可是DS看起來有點迷..

11:19:834 (1,2) - 這2個看你要不要疊起來之後把 11:20:603 (3,1) - NC互換感觉没有现在的好，一空拍就叠感觉太传统了= =

12:44:069 (4,1) - 看你要不要NC互換 keep，理由同上上个nc
13:42:498 (5,6) - 感覺把這2個也NC 好像不錯 XD 我觉得没必要

好喇完成. 好聽最後一首的FLOW有點卡整體上..我學習了很多東西謝謝你

没写回复的都改了。谢谢gary

_MiaoFUuU_ wrote:
来送摸了，我的2KDS位被占了
LAST MOMENT OF DARK
个人认为需要再另加一个哨音去跟旋律，例如00:38:734 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - 01:08:003 - 01:08:551 - 等等，全程打起来鼓点音效比较沉重，打不出要的感觉，反而我屏蔽了音效打的更舒服，旋律才是卖点啊。关于哨音我再研究研究，这次上传暂时keep一下。我是真的不太会音效。。。同意你说的旋律是卖点~不过你说去掉音效比较爽的话，我在考虑要不要把hitnormal改成soft的那种
00:37:820 (4,6) - 这两个可以和前面一样分开，叠着不好看
00:55:381 - 这里排版和你整体不对啊，滑条开头放这吧
01:51:625 - 这里放滑条更好吧下音效之前这里是两个1/2加两个单点的。改成1拍是为了平衡节奏密度。这样一来在你说这个位置加滑条头就不太现实了。
02:02:464 - 做成这样的节奏试试 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8611100
03:27:779 - 这里要放按的
03:33:816 - ↑
————————————————————————————————————————————————————————
04:38:513 - 这部分后面建议做成这样的折返，每个白线红线以及红线后的蓝线加whistle https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8611125 04:38:513 - 这个时间点前后旋律和鼓点没什么明显的变化，节奏密度的骤变会让违和感很严重。
04:40:013 - ↑ 同上。如果全部用1/4，个人感觉节奏密度会过大。
05:01:013 - 这部分不该做成单点，考虑1/4短滑条或者1/2滑条这一段处理成1/2单点一方面是不想让节奏密度过大（毕竟刚经历一个较长的连打），另一方面，处理成1/2滑条的话跟后面重复度太高，必被喷偷懒- - 同名曲目有kite的前车，所以我觉得处理成单点ok的。
05:06:263 (9) - 这个放的和连打弧度不对
05:07:013 - 同上
06:30:639 (1) - 取消NC，和大致NC一样
06:42:951 (2,3) - stack
07:26:604 (1,1,1,1) - 距离应该越来越大换了一种完全不同的玩法
07:36:771 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - 左右距离递增均匀，上下距离递增不均匀反其道而行之地改了
07:39:437 (1,1,1) - 这里距离保持一致
07:42:104 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - 距离递增好，注意圈交集的面积这里整体性太强了感觉改不了递增
08:37:933 (2,3) - stack
12:12:866 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - 做成弧形连打 keep，前面有两个折返=两顿，这里也顿住的话过渡相对平滑。移动起来会有些偏难了
13:04:069 (1,2,3,4) - bpm太高了，不要叠起来，要么把这两个叠上13:04:641 (5,6) - 不好。正是因为bpm高了才要叠啊。不至于被读作二连吧。

没回复的都改掉了。谢谢妙芙神

Lily Bread wrote:
as request

00:43:125 (1,3) - 1往下弯一点，3往上弯一点好像更好弯了之后跟2放在一起看感觉就不太协调

02:09:044 (3) - 1/2滑条加圈似乎不错我只是单纯的想用用弯滑条+直滑条的视觉组合而已:P

——————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————

gl

（有点长所以没看完，因为我最近懒到家了）

一条都没有改，不过还是谢谢莉莉小面包了

blueloniess

364 posts

Joined February 2014

blueloniess 2017-07-22T15:30:16+00:00

gary00737 wrote:
水摸行動 ... 但這圖看了好多次 (感覺好看

04:01:476 (1,2,3,4) - http://i.imgur.com/okhIEGD.png 有點奇怪的樣子 FIXed
04:03:024 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 是不是人手擺的..感覺上不齊已开DS修复

04:44:513 (1,2,3,4) - 因為前面給人感覺是連打所以以為這也是看看能不能調一下間距
05:01:013 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 感覺上中間可以做點變化加上音樂有支援例如05:01:575 (4,5,6) - 05:03:075 (4,5,6) -
05:03:638 (7,8) - 這個感覺可以3連打
後面也有段可以這樣做不然感覺組曲裡這段最違和

05:42:431 (4,1) - 這個看看要不要NC互換感覺會好一點
06:11:217 (3,5) - 這2個也NC 會比較有感覺
06:16:766 (2) - 這個看你要不要疊06:25:610 (4) - 因為看起來跟3很近但有1/1的空拍
06:42:951 (2,3) - 疊好?

07:45:104 (3) - 看你要不要NC

08:37:366 (3,1) - 這2NC互換
09:12:393 (1,2,3,4) - 給我感覺是愈來愈強. 可是DS看起來有點迷..

11:19:834 (1,2) - 這2個看你要不要疊起來之後把 11:20:603 (3,1) - NC互換

12:44:069 (4,1) - 看你要不要NC互換
13:42:498 (5,6) - 感覺把這2個也NC 好像不錯 XD

好喇完成. 好聽最後一首的FLOW有點卡整體上..我學習了很多東西謝謝你

blueloniess

364 posts

Joined February 2014

blueloniess 2017-07-22T15:30:42+00:00

_MiaoFUuU_ wrote:
来送摸了，我的2KDS位被占了
LAST MOMENT OF DARK
个人认为需要再另加一个哨音去跟旋律，例如00:38:734 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - 01:08:003 - 01:08:551 - 等等，全程打起来鼓点音效比较沉重，打不出要的感觉，反而我屏蔽了音效打的更舒服，旋律才是卖点啊。
00:37:820 (4,6) - 这两个可以和前面一样分开，叠着不好看
00:55:381 - 这里排版和你整体不对啊，滑条开头放这吧
01:51:625 - 这里放滑条更好吧
02:02:464 - 做成这样的节奏试试 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8611100
03:27:779 - 这里要放按的
03:33:816 - ↑
03:58:379 (7) - NC
04:04:572 (12) - NC 好
04:05:637 (1) - 取消NC 好
04:38:513 - 这部分后面建议做成这样的折返，每个白线红线以及红线后的蓝线加whistle https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8611125
04:40:013 - ↑
05:01:013 - 这部分不该做成单点，考虑1/4短滑条或者1/2滑条
05:06:263 (9) - 这个放的和连打弧度不对
05:07:013 - 同上
06:30:639 (1) - 取消NC，和大致NC一样
06:42:951 (2,3) - stack
07:26:604 (1,1,1,1) - 距离应该越来越大
07:36:771 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - 左右距离递增均匀，上下距离递增不均匀
07:39:437 (1,1,1) - 这里距离保持一致
07:42:104 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - 距离递增好，注意圈交集的面积
08:37:933 (2,3) - stack
12:12:866 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - 做成弧形连打
13:04:069 (1,2,3,4) - bpm太高了，不要叠起来，要么把这两个叠上13:04:641 (5,6) -

_Yiiiii

464 posts

Joined February 2015

_Yiiiii 2017-07-23T05:54:49+00:00

不好意思水，我稍微严一点摸

LAST MOMENT OF DARK
*00:13:856 (3) - 这里停的有点尴尬，毕竟后面还有音，相对00:12:393 (1) - 不一样，因为这个圈配合鼓声很合适。所以我推荐在00:14:039 - 开一个滑条一直到00:15:137 - 停，正好也能让00:15:228 (4) - 显得不那么突然。
*00:19:161 (10,12) - 这里的旋律是在变化的，这么直着过去很别扭，这俩分别ctrl g一下。
*00:26:661 (6,7,8,1) - 直线flow不好表现滑条头的finish，尤其间距弄得这么平淡，推荐把这个三连改成从下往上。00:41:295 (4,5,6,1) - 这样也挺好。
*01:55:109 (3,4) - 这样的节奏这段就这一个，所以推荐在视觉上特殊处理一下，做个overlap
*03:52:959 (6,7,8) - 这个flow和前面的那些都不一样，而且不合适，间距比较大的情况下就不要用很顺的flow了，让这两个滑条间的夹角小一点。
*03:55:282 (1,2,3) - Snap错了...
*04:02:056 (2,3,4) - 这里很容易读成按两下的那种节奏，把两个圈放出来吧，比如(130,220)
*05:42:431 (4,5) - ctrl g一下，否则突然1/2DS折返又没NC就很尴尬。
*08:36:393 (2,3) - ^
*06:30:639 (1) - 并没有看出来为啥要NC，如果是不小心加上的就去掉。
*10:32:315 (1) - ^
*08:50:176 (4) - 出界。
*09:11:582 (3) - ^
*11:00:369 (2) - ^
*09:36:879 (1) - 这个形状单独摆在这里很突兀。
*10:53:558 (1,2) - 间距太小了，容易起误导作用。
*13:43:069 (1,2) - NC换到2上，现在的1并不特殊。

两个红线
176081,377.358490566038,4,1,1,60,1,0 +2ms
593883,324.324324324324,4,1,1,60,1,0 -2ms

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Adol Christin

875 posts

Joined October 2012

Topic Starter

Adol Christin 2017-07-23T07:35:50+00:00

_Yiiiii wrote:
不好意思水，我稍微严一点摸谢谢，求之不得

LAST MOMENT OF DARK
*00:13:856 (3) - 这里停的有点尴尬，毕竟后面还有音，相对00:12:393 (1) - 不一样，因为这个圈配合鼓声很合适。所以我推荐在00:14:039 - 开一个滑条一直到00:15:137 - 停，正好也能让00:15:228 (4) - 显得不那么突然。非常有道理，改了
*00:19:161 (10,12) - 这里的旋律是在变化的，这么直着过去很别扭，这俩分别ctrl g一下。
*00:26:661 (6,7,8,1) - 直线flow不好表现滑条头的finish，尤其间距弄得这么平淡，推荐把这个三连改成从下往上。00:41:295 (4,5,6,1) - 这样也挺好。整体来看这段flow也是一个锐角的，间距也比前面大一些（因为是简单compilation的第一首歌不想搞的太难，以满足先易后难的作图目的）。改成从下向上太卡手了。
*01:55:109 (3,4) - 这样的节奏这段就这一个，所以推荐在视觉上特殊处理一下，做个overlap
——————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————
*05:42:431 (4,5) - ctrl g一下，否则突然1/2DS折返又没NC就很尴尬。刻意造的一个特殊梗，这个bpm和AR下读缩圈我觉得没什么毛病。
*08:36:393 (2,3) - ^ 同理
*06:30:639 (1) - 并没有看出来为啥要NC，如果是不小心加上的就去掉。
*10:32:315 (1) - ^
*08:50:176 (4) - 出界。
*09:11:582 (3) - ^ 根据rc，在4:3和16：9两种比例下进游戏或者开test模式来看，物件出到外面才算出界。这个滑条动了会影响整体性，所以不动了
*11:00:369 (2) - ^
*09:36:879 (1) - 这个形状单独摆在这里很突兀。
*10:53:558 (1,2) - 间距太小了，容易起误导作用。不会的。因为同样的音乐同样的节奏同样的梗，前面已经重复多次，对玩家有足够的提示了。
*13:43:069 (1,2) - NC换到2上，现在的1并不特殊。

两个红线
176081,377.358490566038,4,1,1,60,1,0 +2ms
593883,324.324324324324,4,1,1,60,1,0 -2ms

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没有回复的部分全部改了。谢谢阿姨桑能来

blueloniess

364 posts

Joined February 2014

blueloniess 2017-07-24T13:33:19+00:00

_Yiiiii wrote:
不好意思水，我稍微严一点摸

LAST MOMENT OF DARK
*00:13:856 (3) - 这里停的有点尴尬，毕竟后面还有音，相对00:12:393 (1) - 不一样，因为这个圈配合鼓声很合适。所以我推荐在00:14:039 - 开一个滑条一直到00:15:137 - 停，正好也能让00:15:228 (4) - 显得不那么突然。
*00:19:161 (10,12) - 这里的旋律是在变化的，这么直着过去很别扭，这俩分别ctrl g一下。
*00:26:661 (6,7,8,1) - 直线flow不好表现滑条头的finish，尤其间距弄得这么平淡，推荐把这个三连改成从下往上。00:41:295 (4,5,6,1) - 这样也挺好。
*01:55:109 (3,4) - 这样的节奏这段就这一个，所以推荐在视觉上特殊处理一下，做个overlap
*03:52:959 (6,7,8) - 这个flow和前面的那些都不一样，而且不合适，间距比较大的情况下就不要用很顺的flow了，让这两个滑条间的夹角小一点。顺了
*03:55:282 (1,2,3) - Snap错了...emmm，稍微改了一点点，现在应该好一些
*04:02:056 (2,3,4) - 这里很容易读成按两下的那种节奏，把两个圈放出来吧，比如(130,220)叠放似乎不影响的样子
*05:42:431 (4,5) - ctrl g一下，否则突然1/2DS折返又没NC就很尴尬。
*08:36:393 (2,3) - ^
*06:30:639 (1) - 并没有看出来为啥要NC，如果是不小心加上的就去掉。
*10:32:315 (1) - ^
*08:50:176 (4) - 出界。
*09:11:582 (3) - ^
*11:00:369 (2) - ^
*09:36:879 (1) - 这个形状单独摆在这里很突兀。
*10:53:558 (1,2) - 间距太小了，容易起误导作用。
*13:43:069 (1,2) - NC换到2上，现在的1并不特殊。

两个红线
176081,377.358490566038,4,1,1,60,1,0 +2ms
593883,324.324324324324,4,1,1,60,1,0 -2ms

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Narcissu

1,744 posts

Joined August 2012

Narcissu 2017-07-26T11:47:06+00:00

那個xxxxx‘s version 太尷尬了，空了一堆給人莫名的哀傷不說。kite 還是牛逼的，前面兩個老圖實在是 ……

伊蘇的曲子挺好聽的……但是配樂BGM都比較短沒什麼雕琢……像Demetori 的曲子都是完整曲式，單抽一段都很豐富。總之個別歌加進組曲我感覺太過牽強……比如第二首Quatera Woods ，第三首 Legend of the Five Great Dragon。找不到什麼形容詞……感覺太單純了存在感不夠，不像澤野弘之的BGM 在電影裏可以喧賓奪主……第一首和最後一首有魄力我覺得能當單獨的曲子做

BG 太挫了……還一大堆水印，像10:01:664 - 這個地方右上右下的logo 十分出戲。不過伊蘇系類大概沒辦法拿到高質量同人圖了

故事版圖片建議裁邊減少體積。百度批處理 ... 懶得做就算了大概沒人介意1MB

我想說最大的問題應該是難度分配……你一見到高BPM就慫的不行，跳梗距離近，連打稀疏參雜折返……導致後面三首超燃的歌，尤其是最後一首只剩下滑條了難度和第二首安靜的歌差不多。你可以不像星爺那種越來越難最後一個尾殺GG，至少不能越到後面越簡單吧。難度分配可以參考 https://osu.ppy.sh/b/532911

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05:19:013 - 整整14個連續折返太挫了 …… 距離還一樣

12:11:938 (5,6) - 這個應該snap 在1/3 和12:11:626 (4) - 一樣

rank 了肯定沒人玩系列

Adol Christin

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Adol Christin 2017-07-26T13:16:59+00:00

Narcissu wrote:
那個xxxxx‘s version 太尷尬了，空了一堆給人莫名的哀傷不說。kite 還是牛逼的，前面兩個老圖實在是 …… 额，有ranked版本都想写进去的。。。我不是太想区别对待。。kite那个确实是这几个里面最厉害的，我自己的over drive都抄了他一些节奏的

伊蘇的曲子挺好聽的……但是配樂BGM都比較短沒什麼雕琢……像Demetori 的曲子都是完整曲式，單抽一段都很豐富。總之個別歌加進組曲我感覺太過牽強……比如第二首Quatera Woods ，第三首 Legend of the Five Great Dragon。找不到什麼形容詞……感覺太單純了存在感不夠，不像澤野弘之的BGM 在電影裏可以喧賓奪主……第一首和最後一首有魄力我覺得能當單獨的曲子做选曲排曲我有个思路：开场选一首最有代表性的，史诗感比较强的来入胜，然后选个舒缓的道中曲作为前期的铺垫，然后上中boss战转换画风。夸特拉森林正好满足了这个需求，bpm也比其他道中曲合适这个位置。你不喜欢五大龙的bgm吗？我第一次打五大龙就被这段折服了的，虽然现在看的确不算最牛的燃曲，但也可以了。

BG 太挫了……還一大堆水印，像10:01:664 - 這個地方右上右下的logo 十分出戲。不過伊蘇系類大概沒辦法拿到高質量同人圖了水印我还真没注意到。。的确有图是论坛拿过来的。。logo这东西，就当做是曲目的作品出处的提示吧。。

故事版圖片建議裁邊減少體積。百度批處理 ... 懶得做就算了大概沒人介意1MB 我打算重做一批字体，现在的总感觉对比度不足。。

我想說最大的問題應該是難度分配……你一見到高BPM就慫的不行，跳梗距離近，連打稀疏參雜折返……導致後面三首超燃的歌，尤其是最後一首只剩下滑條了難度和第二首安靜的歌差不多。你可以不像星爺那種越來越難最後一個尾殺GG，至少不能越到後面越簡單吧。難度分配可以參考 https://osu.ppy.sh/b/532911 不瞒你说，做组曲的难度分配，我参考了两个大佬的组曲：lfj的demetori和飞球的丰崎爱生。特别是你说的这首巴雷斯坦城，难度水平就是参照的飞球的Letter Writer。他这张的间距总体就比较小，滑条也用的很多。倒数第三首a-to-z，我是真的刻意压抑住自己跟全部鼓点的欲望做下来的，目标就如你所说，不要做的超过4.85这个定位，而跟前面的难度相差甚远了。前面的有些曲目之所以敢用大间距，是建立在没有什么连打或者bpm很低的前提下的。

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05:19:013 - 整整14個連續折返太挫了 …… 距離還一樣 kite版本这一段总共只有4个折返。我觉得这样长的连打对这个水平的玩家而言，会过分消耗左手的耐力，对打后面的部分很不利。

12:11:938 (5,6) - 這個應該snap 在1/3 和12:11:626 (4) - 一樣是的，大概是之前调时间线的时候手滑了吧。

rank 了肯定沒人玩系列打你哦水仙

嗯，祝食指能快一些好，然后回归作图圈，疯狂起飞，成为偶像麻婆，登上人生巅峰，然后再来打打我的图啊xD

kunka

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Joined July 2012

kunka 2017-07-29T06:05:54+00:00

hi~
General

BG: Aspect ratio is different. Please revise it to 1366:768
Timing point and the inherited point are the same setting. Please confirm each point 11:34:501 - 11:53:983 - 12:13:481 - 12:21:784 -

LAST MOMENT OF DARK

00:48:978 (1,2,3,4,1) - Flow is not good..I felt flows from 00:49:344 (3) - in particular to 00:49:893 (1) - to be unnaturally. I suggest it as follows https://puu.sh/wVTNO.jpg
00:56:295 (1,2,3) - I think it to be rhythm same as the next 00:57:759 (1,2,3) - . However, I feel sense of incongruity because snap is different. Would you unify it?
01:15:137 (6,1) - Because there is 1/2stack here, the flow little bit stops. I recommend that I make stack to 01:14:405 (2) - head the 01:15:137 (6) -
01:52:980 (4,5) - Sound of 01:52:980 (4) - is a long sound. I recommend ctrl+G.
02:03:819 (6,1) - I don't feel need of stack for a reason same as the above. I recommend that I make stack to 02:02:851 (1) - head the 02:03:819 (6) -
02:31:883 (1,2) - It's hard to recognize 1/2stack just after the stream. Please remove stack. In addition, the 02:32:077 (2,3) - becomes easy to take rhythm by performing ctrl+G.
03:10:611 - I think that this sound is very important. How about this? https://puu.sh/wVVOl.jpg
03:25:988 - There is a sound. Please add a circle.
03:34:573 (5,6) - All the sounds of 03:34:762 - is place clickable notes so far. So, slider-end is unnatural. I recommend that I change the 03:34:573 (5,6) - to ctrl+G.
03:35:328 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - It's a reason same as the above. I think that it becomes following snap https://puu.sh/wVWlC.jpg
03:55:960 (3) - There is the sound in 03:56:056 - not 03:55:960 - . You revise the length of the slider, and, please move to 03:56:056 -
04:04:959 (1,2,3) - It doesn't become the guitar follow...I think that I'm as follows if it is guitar follow. https://puu.sh/wVWEm.jpg
04:44:700 - This sound is a sound same as 04:44:513 (1,2,3,4) - . Would you add a circle?
07:31:604 (2) - This is rhythm unlike consistency. For example, please look 07:29:937 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - . Because 07:29:937 (1) - and 07:30:437 (3) - and 07:30:937 (5) - is strong sound, you use slider. The point is, 07:31:771 - must not make slider-end. try this https://puu.sh/wVXD3.jpg
07:36:937 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - It's not beautiful for overlaps. please remove overlaps.
07:39:437 (1,1,1) - ^
07:42:104 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - ^
09:39:068 - There is a sound. Would you add a circle?
11:16:221 (1) - Because the 11:16:827 - is a very strong sound, I recommend that I change it to note clickable. You remove reverse, and, please add 11:16:827 - to reverse.
11:33:234 (1) - Because it is music with the force, 1note is not very good. try this https://puu.sh/wVYAS.jpg
11:40:864 (2,3) - This overlap is not good. If it's stack, I do not have any problem. like this 11:48:196 (2,3) -
12:07:198 (1,2) - Slider-end of 12:07:501 (2) - hides by slider of 12:07:198 (1) - .You should make stack such as the above.
12:12:866 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - Stack is not a necessary point. Normal stream is desirable.
12:30:926 (1,2) - I felt sense of incongruity in rhythm. try this https://puu.sh/wVZ3F.jpg
12:33:212 (1,2) - ^ https://puu.sh/wVZa1.jpg

I performed mod of long music for the first time. I went to the restroom on the way. GL!

Adol Christin

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Topic Starter

Adol Christin 2017-07-31T02:41:11+00:00

kunka wrote:
hi~
General
BG: Aspect ratio is different. Please revise it to 1366:768
Timing point and the inherited point are the same setting. Please confirm each point 11:34:501 - 11:53:983 - 12:13:481 - 12:21:784 -
LAST MOMENT OF DARK
00:48:978 (1,2,3,4,1) - Flow is not good..I felt flows from 00:49:344 (3) - in particular to 00:49:893 (1) - to be unnaturally. I suggest it as follows https://puu.sh/wVTNO.jpg
00:56:295 (1,2,3) - I think it to be rhythm same as the next 00:57:759 (1,2,3) - . However, I feel sense of incongruity because snap is different. Would you unify it? i think i won't. since the drum beat is slightly different. even the rhythm seems to be the same, i normally prefer different rhythm for some different playing experience.
01:15:137 (6,1) - Because there is 1/2stack here, the flow little bit stops. I recommend that I make stack to 01:14:405 (2) - head the 01:15:137 (6) - i personally don't like what you recommend. it's just like a back-forward flow between 1 slider and 2 circles, which makes me fell unnatural.
01:52:980 (4,5) - Sound of 01:52:980 (4) - is a long sound. I recommend ctrl+G.
02:03:819 (6,1) - I don't feel need of stack for a reason same as the above. I recommend that I make stack to 02:02:851 (1) - head the 02:03:819 (6) - the "stop" flow is what i actually need here, to emphasis the double drum beats on 02:03:819 (6,1) - .
02:31:883 (1,2) - It's hard to recognize 1/2stack just after the stream. Please remove stack. In addition, the 02:32:077 (2,3) - becomes easy to take rhythm by performing ctrl+G. didn't apply ctrl+g, but i moved 2 to a different place. now the flow seems to be better
03:10:611 - I think that this sound is very important. How about this? https://puu.sh/wVVOl.jpg you are totally right. not only this point, but 03:10:988 - has 1/3 drum beats that has been ignored. what i want to do is to simplify the rhythm here by following the instrument.
03:25:988 - There is a sound. Please add a circle.
03:34:573 (5,6) - All the sounds of 03:34:762 - is place clickable notes so far. So, slider-end is unnatural. I recommend that I change the 03:34:573 (5,6) - to ctrl+G. it's unnatural for playing if ctrl+g.
03:35:328 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - It's a reason same as the above. I think that it becomes following snap https://puu.sh/wVWlC.jpg changed to a different one
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04:44:700 - This sound is a sound same as 04:44:513 (1,2,3,4) - . Would you add a circle? no. i aimed to follow instrument mainly. the hitsound sample i used shows my mapping strategy.
07:31:604 (2) - This is rhythm unlike consistency. For example, please look 07:29:937 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - . Because 07:29:937 (1) - and 07:30:437 (3) - and 07:30:937 (5) - is strong sound, you use slider. The point is, 07:31:771 - must not make slider-end. try this https://puu.sh/wVXD3.jpg
07:36:937 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - It's not beautiful for overlaps. please remove overlaps. if i remove them, the distance would be too big imo. personally i think overlap is needed for these part of songs.
07:39:437 (1,1,1) - ^ same
07:42:104 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - ^ ^
09:39:068 - There is a sound. Would you add a circle? i won't. reason is the same as 03:10:611
11:16:221 (1) - Because the 11:16:827 - is a very strong sound, I recommend that I change it to note clickable. You remove reverse, and, please add 11:16:827 - to reverse. 11:16:221 - and 11:16:524 - are the same type of drum beat. i want to emphasize this more than the snare sound.
11:33:234 (1) - Because it is music with the force, 1note is not very good. try this https://puu.sh/wVYAS.jpg
11:40:864 (2,3) - This overlap is not good. If it's stack, I do not have any problem. like this 11:48:196 (2,3) - i think it's what the flow needs. also i like this kind of overlap recently.
12:07:198 (1,2) - Slider-end of 12:07:501 (2) - hides by slider of 12:07:198 (1) - .You should make stack such as the above.
12:12:866 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - Stack is not a necessary point. Normal stream is desirable. not rly. reverse sliders are corresponding to stops. normal stream would destroy the balanced of that stop feeling.
12:30:926 (1,2) - I felt sense of incongruity in rhythm. try this https://puu.sh/wVZ3F.jpg maybe our feeling of rhythm is different.
12:33:212 (1,2) - ^ https://puu.sh/wVZa1.jpg same. i think current one follows the guitar better.
I performed mod of long music for the first time. I went to the restroom on the way. GL!

no reply=fixed. really thank you for the soooo attentive mod. remember to post your map when ur gd is up.

Otosaka-Yu

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Joined August 2013

Otosaka-Yu 2017-08-01T00:04:19+00:00

~~唉，占位补坑了~~
摸不动摸不动，下次有啥图我再摸吧，这个太长了orz设颗星跑路

Last edited by Otosaka-Yu 2017-08-05T16:48:01+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Adol Christin

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Topic Starter

Adol Christin 2017-08-05T13:59:26+00:00

blueloniess' part reply:

kunka wrote:
hi~
03:55:960 (3) - There is the sound in 03:56:056 - not 03:55:960 - . You revise the length of the slider, and, please move to 03:56:056 - fixed
04:04:959 (1,2,3) - It doesn't become the guitar follow...I think that I'm as follows if it is guitar follow. https://puu.sh/wVWEm.jpg not fixed
I performed mod of long music for the first time. I went to the restroom on the way. GL!

also accepted LITEON's suggestion on the slider velocity. (1.5 -> 1.4)

a_point

160 posts

Joined June 2016

a_point 2017-08-22T11:21:31+00:00

来自同群渣渣萌新的回礼，谢谢大佬的头像，头像棒极了！！！
于是乎我不好意思地给你送回礼。
渣渣脑残手残mod，只求骗星的行为可耻。但我就是这样可耻的人。

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05:49:714 (8,1,2) - 感觉1有点难读，也许可以blanket。
13:20:069 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 前一个1，2，3还好，后一个1，2，3有点难follow，节奏一样的话可以把绿色的1放在3的尾巴上。
09:24:393 (2,3) - 间距难读，有点短。手会情不自禁先打下去。
05:13:013 (1,2) - 同样间距短，以为是连打。。。
13:10:069 (2,3) - 感觉这两个滑条很难follow啊，感觉不连贯。也许可以让3往下滑，4往上滑。

Adol Christin

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Topic Starter

Adol Christin 2017-08-23T15:24:44+00:00

a_point wrote:
来自同群渣渣萌新的回礼，谢谢大佬的头像，头像棒极了！！！
于是乎我不好意思地给你送回礼。
渣渣脑残手残mod，只求骗星的行为可耻。但我就是这样可耻的人。别别别别别，每篇摸或多或少都对别人有帮助的。所以只要你是认真来摸的不是搞事的，我都很感谢。

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05:49:714 (8,1,2) - 感觉1有点难读，也许可以blanket。就一个三角哪里难度了。。。blanket完全解决不了间距的问题。
13:20:069 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 前一个1，2，3还好，后一个1，2，3有点难follow，节奏一样的话可以把绿色的1放在3的尾巴上。换了一个摆法，没按照你的改
09:24:393 (2,3) - 间距难读，有点短。手会情不自禁先打下去。改成了折返
05:13:013 (1,2) - 同样间距短，以为是连打。。。加大了
13:10:069 (2,3) - 感觉这两个滑条很难follow啊，感觉不连贯。也许可以让3往下滑，4往上滑。我感觉很连贯啊你想象成第一根开口向下，第二根开口向右，这样的

谢了

Gust

516 posts

Joined December 2011

Gust 2017-08-23T18:13:04+00:00

路过，送个星顺便稍微来水个摸

[太长了直接Marathon]
Genesis Beyond the Beginning
00:29:588 (5,6,7,8,1) - 00:38:368 (7,8,9,10,1) - 这种最后一个是故意错开的吗。如果是的话那00:44:222 (4,5,6,7,1) - 这里为什么是直线五连
00:45:685 (3,4,1) - 可以摆成一条等距直线

Quatera Woods
01:40:399 (3,4) - 会不会ds太小了。听音乐的话01:40:399 (3,4,1) - 这三个应该是间距差不多的
01:48:915 (1,2,3) - 我比较倾向这里flow是向下走的，即3往下摆，滑条方向也往下
01:52:399 (1,2,3) - 也是间距小
01:57:432 (2) - 这里音很重啊。。间距有些小
02:01:690 (1,2) - 比起现在这种角度太小的flow我更倾向于这样子，我感觉这样打起来会不会更舒服点

1

02:02:464 (3) - 这里我第一次读起来有些困难，打也不是很好打。我的话会把3拆成2个note，后面的note和再后面组成3连。这样子和再后面的02:03:238 (2,3,4,5) - 也是统一的
以及02:03:625 (5,6) - 这里间距太小，听音乐我觉得这明显应该该是加大ds的地方
02:05:173 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - 我觉得这里的下法过于侧重鼓音了。应该是那个我也不知道叫啥的很重很慢的音为主，鼓音为辅的思路去下节奏。我的话会这么下

2

02:08:657 (1,2,3,1) - ^
这一首曲子的部分给我的感觉就是跟打击音效跟的很多，ds大小的原因的我自己摸不出什么头脑。。

Legend of the Five Great Dragons
~~我非常喜欢f猫那张图里的Alace gd~~
02:59:856 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - 我觉得吧，连打没问题，跟着鼓。但问题是这里到底该不该跟鼓，依我看是不该，这里音乐的重点明显是和02:59:101 (1) - 一样的。
03:00:611 (1,2,3,4,5) - 这里也是一样。这两段至少有一段要简单一些，不能全塞爆。
我觉得这里曲子走向应该是前轻后重的。前面简单一些，后面音乐虽然缓但是却是主要部分开始，后面难度开始变大才对
03:07:026 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 这个flow有点别扭。。
03:04:196 (1) - NC？
03:12:686 (1,2,3,4) - 四个间距应该统一，这里四个重音没有什么区别的
03:16:271 (3,4,5,6,7) - 03:17:592 (2,3,4,5,6) - 03:19:101 (2,3,4,5,6) - 间距统一一下？音乐上听不出有什么不同。
03:18:535 (8,1) - 间距太大，视觉上看上去03:18:158 (7,8,1) - 这三个读图困难（03:17:781 (4,8) - 没必要在这种地方去叠，为了整齐丢了可玩性非常得不偿失）
03:22:309 (4) - 重音从03:22:403 - 开始，slider下到这里非常不应该的
03:30:045 (1) - 03:30:799 (1) - 间距实在太大了。这里本来是该间距放大，但是太突兀了，全是塞爆又突然来个这么大的间距，没法玩.jpg
03:32:309 (1,2) - 中间没有空拍的理由
03:35:328 (1,4) - 这种间距就比较合理，以及前面NC这里怎么没有了

好累想睡觉，就先摸这么多吧。个人感觉问题还是比较多的，加油

Adol Christin

875 posts

Joined October 2012

Topic Starter

Adol Christin 2017-08-26T14:22:26+00:00

回的有点晚不好意思。

Gust wrote:
路过，送个星顺便稍微来水个摸

[太长了直接Marathon]
Genesis Beyond the Beginning
00:29:588 (5,6,7,8,1) - 00:38:368 (7,8,9,10,1) - 这种最后一个是故意错开的吗。如果是的话那00:44:222 (4,5,6,7,1) - 这里为什么是直线五连
相比视野外的叠我觉得视野内的观感更重要。这几个五连都是直的啊，最后一个也是顺水推舟的结果吧
00:45:685 (3,4,1) - 可以摆成一条等距直线

Quatera Woods
01:40:399 (3,4) - 会不会ds太小了。听音乐的话01:40:399 (3,4,1) - 这三个应该是间距差不多的
有旋律的部分和没旋律的部分，我觉得用不同间距区分一下会更好。虽然做成等间距也是可以的
01:48:915 (1,2,3) - 我比较倾向这里flow是向下走的，即3往下摆，滑条方向也往下
01:52:399 (1,2,3) - 也是间距小
刻意造梗，以强调后面滑条头位置的音
01:57:432 (2) - 这里音很重啊。。间距有些小
02:01:690 (1,2) - 比起现在这种角度太小的flow我更倾向于这样子，我感觉这样打起来会不会更舒服点
1
02:02:464 (3) - 这里我第一次读起来有些困难，打也不是很好打。我的话会把3拆成2个note，后面的note和再后面组成3连。这样子和再后面的02:03:238 (2,3,4,5) - 也是统一的
以及02:03:625 (5,6) - 这里间距太小，听音乐我觉得这明显应该该是加大ds的地方
02:05:173 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - 我觉得这里的下法过于侧重鼓音了。应该是那个我也不知道叫啥的很重很慢的音为主，鼓音为辅的思路去下节奏。我的话会这么下
2
02:08:657 (1,2,3,1) - ^
我想了一下，之后remap的时候打算保留这个部分的节奏下法，把前面的改掉
这一首曲子的部分给我的感觉就是跟打击音效跟的很多，ds大小的原因的我自己摸不出什么头脑。。
这首曲子我要remap，特别是kiai的排版我自己都有点看不太下去了orz。。。所以前面拒绝的理由仅表达我的mapping思想，改了的部分也不会最终实装。

Legend of the Five Great Dragons
~~我非常喜欢f猫那张图里的Alace gd~~
我不太喜欢。大概是时代的原因吧，Alace那个gd几乎完全忽略了鼓点，全程跟旋律，这点我不太能接受。因为这曲目的鼓点不是那么千篇一律，是足够复杂，可以做得有趣的。
02:59:856 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - 我觉得吧，连打没问题，跟着鼓。但问题是这里到底该不该跟鼓，依我看是不该，这里音乐的重点明显是和02:59:101 (1) - 一样的。
你说的没错，但我选择跟鼓。实际上两种玩法都是可行的，但是用一个串来引入感觉非常酷。不用串的话，因为这个曲子鼓声很响所以不到万不得已不想过多的undermapping。
03:00:611 (1,2,3,4,5) - 这里也是一样。这两段至少有一段要简单一些，不能全塞爆。
这段我一开始就是你说的那么下的，还刚好做了个对称。直到下音效的时候听到1/3
我觉得这里曲子走向应该是前轻后重的。前面简单一些，后面音乐虽然缓但是却是主要部分开始，后面难度开始变大才对
03:07:026 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 这个flow有点别扭。。
03:04:196 (1) - NC？
03:12:686 (1,2,3,4) - 四个间距应该统一，这里四个重音没有什么区别的
乐器不同所以我觉得可以保留，改了会非常破坏整体性
03:16:271 (3,4,5,6,7) - 03:17:592 (2,3,4,5,6) - 03:19:101 (2,3,4,5,6) - 间距统一一下？音乐上听不出有什么不同。
03:18:535 (8,1) - 间距太大，视觉上看上去03:18:158 (7,8,1) - 这三个读图困难（03:17:781 (4,8) - 没必要在这种地方去叠，为了整齐丢了可玩性非常得不偿失）
第一个五连间距改了。后面的保留。首先1/4滑条正常读图都会当做单点，这样的话8和1间距并不大。视野内的视觉间距的平衡是我作普通图非常看重的一个点。由于flow方向的原因，实际打的时候我觉得这里的读图没有任何问题（找了几个跟我打图水平接近的玩家测试过的结果）
03:22:309 (4) - 重音从03:22:403 - 开始，slider下到这里非常不应该的
03:30:045 (1) - 03:30:799 (1) - 间距实在太大了。这里本来是该间距放大，但是太突兀了，全是塞爆又突然来个这么大的间距，没法玩.jpg
第一个通过该滑条方向改小了0.4左右第二个keep，因为是顺flow
03:32:309 (1,2) - 中间没有空拍的理由
03:35:328 (1,4) - 这种间距就比较合理，以及前面NC这里怎么没有了

好累想睡觉，就先摸这么多吧。个人感觉问题还是比较多的，加油

没有回复的全部改了。谢谢fm桑的摸

tutuhaha

3,000 posts

Joined October 2010

tutuhaha 2017-09-08T23:19:41+00:00

00:12:027 (7) - 这里突然拖长音感觉特别奇怪,干脆利落的一下结束或者slider end 稍微降音我觉得比较好
00:14:039 (2) - 就...挺丑的...
00:34:253 (7) - 这个音听起来没有太大必要可以考虑删掉
02:03:528 (4) - ^
03:07:686 (x) - 我觉得这边应该加个音
03:20:233 (1) - 结尾少了个clap？
03:28:535 (5) - 我觉得这里还是不要用折返比较好一点，就直接slider+circle
03:29:290 (1) - 这里直接1/2拉到红线比较好
03:35:328 (1) - ^
03:46:282 (2,3) - 节奏ctrl+G一下比较好
03:55:282 (1,2,3,4) - 完全搞不懂这里做咩要减速.-.
04:47:786 (x) - 这里加note比较好，如果可以的话就后面也加上你懂得
05:40:524 (2) - clap？
06:43:818 (6) - 这个我觉得还是跳到右边比较好
07:40:604 (1,2) - blanket的漂亮点咯
08:24:879 (3) - 这里还是不要overlap比较好，摆到像是x456 y164的地方之类的？
没啦！

Adol Christin

875 posts

Joined October 2012

Topic Starter

Adol Christin 2017-09-10T05:15:13+00:00

tutuhaha wrote:
00:12:027 (7) - 这里突然拖长音感觉特别奇怪,干脆利落的一下结束或者slider end 稍微降音我觉得比较好
没拖长音啊，连打的话是跟鼓吧。一段连打后一个重重的鼓点拉开一曲的序幕，感觉就挺爽。
00:14:039 (2) - 就...挺丑的...
00:34:253 (7) - 这个音听起来没有太大必要可以考虑删掉思来想去，还是不改了。主要是改成单点后不管放哪儿，这儿的整体结构感觉都会被破坏。
02:03:528 (4) - ^ 这个地方有音的（刚re完印象比较深）。
03:07:686 (x) - 我觉得这边应该加个音
03:20:233 (1) - 结尾少了个clap？
03:28:535 (5) - 我觉得这里还是不要用折返比较好一点，就直接slider+circle
03:29:290 (1) - 这里直接1/2拉到红线比较好想部分跟鼓。滑条折返位置有鼓音，而后一根用1/2是因为中间没鼓音，我觉得这样的话节奏比较浅显好读些又不至于太单调
03:35:328 (1) - ^ 同上
——————————————————————————————————————————————————————————
04:47:786 (x) - 这里加note比较好，如果可以的话就后面也加上你懂得这样的鼓点很多，但这曲我有意以跟旋律为主了，尽量undermapping防止图变得充满连打，消耗耐力
05:40:524 (2) - clap？
06:43:818 (6) - 这个我觉得还是跳到右边比较好不好看啊
07:40:604 (1,2) - blanket的漂亮点咯
08:24:879 (3) - 这里还是不要overlap比较好，摆到像是x456 y164的地方之类的？没overmap啊，叠不算overmap吧。。放到你所示的那个位置的话3和4的间距变得贼尴尬而且4的位置调不了。。。所以keep
没啦！

no reply=all fixed. 感谢2ha小姐姐~

Ryuusei Aika

Elite Mapper

1,085 posts

Joined January 2016

Ryuusei Aika 2017-09-11T14:07:51+00:00

好长

General

Combo colors are not set.
红绿线冲突：
03:41:347 (hitsound set)
06:49:938 (hitsound set)
09:51:289 (volume level)

last moment of dark

00:18:246 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - 这里串觉得应该从大间距到小间距比较好，这一小段乐器强度是由强变弱的
04:01:476 (1) - 这没stack好吧
04:09:121 (1) - 这滑条感觉没和乐器对上，和鼓点好像也差了拍，我觉得应该放在04:09:217 - 然后调成4/6的折返，这样能和乐器对上
04:10:669 (1) - ^，放04:10:766 - 然后变成4/6折返
07:31:771 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - 这......我觉得别把滑条贴在串上吧，看着好别扭
10:45:772 - 10:58:745 - 这段太酷了
13:42:212 (4,5,6,7) - 这里音乐算是挺强一段了我觉得用四个1/1的原地单点带过去有点太可惜了，感觉也有点空......弄几个3/4的滑条呗

加油加油

Adol Christin

875 posts

Joined October 2012

Topic Starter

Adol Christin 2017-09-11T15:53:06+00:00

Ryuusei Aika wrote:
好长

General
Combo colors are not set.
红绿线冲突：
03:41:347 (hitsound set)
06:49:938 (hitsound set)
09:51:289 (volume level)

last moment of dark
00:18:246 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - 这里串觉得应该从大间距到小间距比较好，这一小段乐器强度是由强变弱的
——————————————————————————————————————————————————————————
07:31:771 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - 这......我觉得别把滑条贴在串上吧，看着好别扭刻意这样造的梗= =
10:45:772 - 10:58:745 - 这段太酷了哇谢谢夸奖
13:42:212 (4,5,6,7) - 这里音乐算是挺强一段了我觉得用四个1/1的原地单点带过去有点太可惜了，感觉也有点空......弄几个3/4的滑条呗感觉这样的话跟前面的方形，怎么摆都不搭调啊。。

加油加油

没有回复的全部改掉了。非常感谢，红绿线这个居然这么久没注意到我也是大意了

nika mika

397 posts

Joined January 2014

nika mika 2017-09-18T16:22:39+00:00

咕一天的事能叫咕吗？
能

[LAST MOMENT OF DARK]

general

stack latency改成3的话能把很多不必要的stack改成完全叠看你喜好了
combo颜色可以自己改改

摆图

00:10:198 (5) - 如果是三角的话稍微有点歪了我觉得放在254 229
00:12:027 (7) - 这个拉成到00:12:210 - 另外这一串的flow有点别扭倒个方向再调整下间距比较好
00:20:899 - 00:20:990 - 严格来说漏音不然把00:21:082 (3) - 也去了
另外之前两处旋律节奏都差不多为什么一个放16连一个用滑条直接盖过去了
00:21:905 (2) - 两个弧度这么大的滑条还是放远点
00:31:234 (1) - 00:43:490 (2) - 00:43:490 (2) - 01:08:734 (3) - 这一段间距看着像是想要统一在1.1x 但是这里是个1.0
00:33:064 (2) - 同上 1.05x
另外连打的间距也是经常变……推荐每两个break之间都统一一下或者按着节奏激烈程度来放
00:38:734 (1) - 摆成直线的话有点歪了
01:05:807 (5) - 没在四方的正中间
01:07:271 (5) - nc
01:09:100 (4,1,2) - 可以放一个三角
01:19:710 (1) - 没有包好

01:42:335 (2,4) - 01:47:173 (3,5) - 这两处overlap选一个相同的间距来摆
01:48:335 (3) - 这一段音乐没什么起伏但是间距从1.5变成1.2再变回去就有点怪
02:41:561 (2,3,4,5) - 歪了

03:45:508 (5) - 这里没音
03:48:217 (5) - ^
03:51:701 (5) - ^
03:45:992 (1,2,3) - 这个一般是处理三连的节奏用3/4滑条吧
03:47:540 (1,2,3) - ^
……类似的都像这样而且这样和03:49:088 (1,2,3,4,5) - 有冲突我觉得你要不都改了要不就完全别动给03:49:088 (1,2,3,4,5) -重新想梗
03:53:347 (8) - 这里应该是在03:53:443 - 和 03:53:540 - 有二连而不是一个1/2滑条

05:34:281 (3) - 调整下间距
06:35:321 (5,6,2) - ^

07:33:604 (4,1,2) - 可以摆成三角
07:39:437 (1,1,1,1,2,3,4) - 个人意见改成一上一下的短滑条（和前面07:36:771 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - 类似）

09:20:176 (1) - flow有点别扭我是想让从5的左下绕到右下然后2对应再改一改

11:32:788 (6) - 向右边挪到没有overlap

12:28:641 (1) - 这里是1.1x 12:27:212 (3) - 这里是1.05x 12:28:069 (3) - 这里是1.2x
还是选一个间距一直用吧
13:08:641 (1) - 有点别手个人意见向上边挪一点
13:11:498 (3,4,5,6) - 也是有点别手个人意见改成左右左右的Z字跳
13:29:212 (1) - ctrl g

音效

00:13:490 (1) - 这里开始用S感觉太弱了可以继续用normal但是声音开低些

06:50:271 (2) - 这地方的finish有点刺耳套用后面类似部分的鼓音效就很够了
但是大部分时候音效都太吵……个人意见

小问题有点多……如果没事过两边图把间距啊blanket和滑条形状啥的小修小补一下就行
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