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Razor Sharp
you asked for a mod. so here it goes.
(got a 2 miss btw, fuuu ;w;)

  • Madness
  1. 03:11:704 (6) - Obejct isn't snapped!
  2. BG file is not in the right dimensions. Please resize it to fit the RC.
  3. Can not hear hitsounds at all. You will need hitsounds to be able to rank this!

  4. 00:33:703 (1) - Why not make this into a single note? Leading to a note on x128 to empathize the start? (aka, place a note where (1) originaly is, then another note at x128)
  5. 00:42:556 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - sure about empathizing this so much with hypers? Does not fit at all imo.
  6. 01:08:971 (1,1) - This is not rankable i think. Put a note at 01:11:166 - and move the last spinner too 01:11:312 - or delete the last spinner, and extend the first one.
  7. 01:18:190 (1,2,3,4) - 01:20:532 (1,2,3,4) - im not sure if streams like these are ok for this bpm. Whilst i have no problem handling the left right motion, alot of players might.
  8. 01:36:629 (1) - Are you completely sure about this? I can understand why you added a wiggle slider, due to the sound. But eh, idk about it. The seed is pretty hard to catch here without "panic moving" as i call it.
  9. 01:44:385 (7,8) - Tap streams like these, i would not recommend to have in so fast songs. Consider changing it.
  10. 02:32:532 (7,8) - ^
  11. 02:36:629 (7,8) - ^
  12. 02:47:605 (7,8) - ^
  13. 03:23:020 (2,3) - Maybe add a note between these?
  14. 03:46:435 (2,3,4) - Try to move these to x176 to add some variety in distance.
  15. 04:13:946 (3,4,3,4) - Tap streams like these, i would not recommend to have in so fast songs. Consider changing it.
  16. 05:02:971 (1,2,3,4) - The sudden direction changes in these patterns are quite incomfortable to play. The song doesent really suggest such movement here. I would recommend to take a look at this, and consider changing it to not have such sharp movement here.
  17. 05:05:312 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^
  18. 05:17:459 (7,8) - This one isnt too bad tbh. But i would recommend to make this lie down instead of being a stop motion note. Just a suggestion from my side.
  19. 06:23:780 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Make these into sliders that has the same pattern maybe? To get some accuracy challenge into this at the same time?
  20. 06:28:170 (1) - 06:49:243 (4) - VERY GOOD JOB! I love how this part is! You did i exeptional good job on mapping this!
  21. 08:27:730 (2,3) - The distance here is way to big. Highly suggested to reduce!

    very good map!

Good luck!
Topic Starter
Kyuare

Razor Sharp wrote:

you asked for a mod. so here it goes.
(got a 2 miss btw, fuuu ;w;)

  • Madness
  1. 03:11:704 (6) - Obejct isn't snapped!
  2. BG file is not in the right dimensions. Please resize it to fit the RC.
  3. Can not hear hitsounds at all. You will need hitsounds to be able to rank this! WIP

  4. 00:33:703 (1) - Why not make this into a single note? Leading to a note on x128 to empathize the start? (aka, place a note where (1) originaly is, then another note at x128)
  5. 00:42:556 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - sure about empathizing this so much with hypers? Does not fit at all imo. reduced the distance
  6. 01:08:971 (1,1) - This is not rankable i think. Put a note at 01:11:166 - and move the last spinner too 01:11:312 - or delete the last spinner, and extend the first one.
  7. 01:18:190 (1,2,3,4) - 01:20:532 (1,2,3,4) - im not sure if streams like these are ok for this bpm. Whilst i have no problem handling the left right motion, alot of players might. No need to left-right them, you can just platter-walk
  8. 01:36:629 (1) - Are you completely sure about this? I can understand why you added a wiggle slider, due to the sound. But eh, idk about it. The seed is pretty hard to catch here without "panic moving" as i call it.
  9. 01:44:385 (7,8) - Tap streams like these, i would not recommend to have in so fast songs. Consider changing it. Will change 80% but keep some, because I really like them
  10. 02:32:532 (7,8) - ^
  11. 02:36:629 (7,8) - ^
  12. 02:47:605 (7,8) - ^
  13. 03:23:020 (2,3) - Maybe add a note between these?
  14. 03:46:435 (2,3,4) - Try to move these to x176 to add some variety in distance.
  15. 04:13:946 (3,4,3,4) - Tap streams like these, i would not recommend to have in so fast songs. Consider changing it.
  16. 05:02:971 (1,2,3,4) - The sudden direction changes in these patterns are quite incomfortable to play. The song doesent really suggest such movement here. I would recommend to take a look at this, and consider changing it to not have such sharp movement here. The sudden direction change is here to empathise the new combo and the crescendo effect, I really like this pattern so I will keep it as it is
  17. 05:05:312 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^ same, sorry
  18. 05:17:459 (7,8) - This one isnt too bad tbh. But i would recommend to make this lie down instead of being a stop motion note. Just a suggestion from my side.
  19. 06:23:780 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Make these into sliders that has the same pattern maybe? To get some accuracy challenge into this at the same time?
  20. 06:28:170 (1) - 06:49:243 (4) - VERY GOOD JOB! I love how this part is! You did i exeptional good job on mapping this!
  21. 08:27:730 (2,3) - The distance here is way to big. Highly suggested to reduce!

    very good map!

Good luck!
Thank you !
Deif
Finally I can get to this!

[General]
  1. Combo colours: The current grey-ish one is quite dark. Try to make it lighter to make a better contrast with the background picture. Optionally, you can do it as well with the purple you chose.
[Madness]
  1. 00:33:703 - It's not necessary to have that break time ended earlier than it should. Try to move (1) some beats back and forth to remove it. It can be done for the next breaks 05:50:268 - and 07:28:463 - .
  2. 00:46:580 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - It'd break your symmetry with the previous pattern, but it'd be recommendable to introduce a HDash between (6,7) to represent the high-pitched sound. Moving the beginning of the slider (7) a bit to the left should make it work.
  3. 01:08:824 (9) - Having a new combo in this note would empty the plate just before facing the spinner.
  4. 01:08:971 (1) - I'd make this spinner end at 01:10:873 - instead, where you can hear a stronger beat than the one you placed the end of the spinner at.
  5. 01:18:190 (1,2,3) - I don't have much problem with this kind of transition, but I bet many other people would complain about the fast movement they have to make here. I'd recommend nevertheless moving (2) a bit to the left in order to reduce the leniency of this pattern and the required movement after the HDash. You can do something similar to the twin pattern later on at 01:20:532 (1,2,3) - .
  6. 01:22:873 (1) - 01:23:459 (1) - It's quite tricky to have totally horizontal kicksliders after a HDash, especially with high SV and BPM like these ones. I'd recommend to incline those sliders to reduce the margin of error on this one. With the current sliders, players would either follow the zigzag movement completely or hope that they can catch everything by placing the catcher in the middle of it.
  7. 01:44:385 (7,8) - It's sorta frustrating to have a flowbreaker pattern in the middle of a long stream. You can move (7) to x:224 and (8) to x:272 to make the movement in the pattern more continuous.
  8. 03:01:800 (1,2,3,4) - Don't be so mean with that movement. Try at least moving (2) a bit to the left to soften the transition. Same with the pattern afterwards at 03:02:971 (1,2,3,4) - .
  9. 03:10:581 (1) - This slider should get extended to the next 1/6 beat 03:11:215 - to match with the important beat.
  10. 03:11:411 (3,4) - These notes aren't properly snapped by a few miliseconds. Please resnap them properly.
  11. 03:13:434 - Optional to add, but an additional circle at this position would also be suitable.
  12. 03:13:800 (8,9,1) - Hearing the music carefully, these objects aren't matching the main instrument but just the background melody. Another option is to map those notes in 1/3 beats like in the example here: http://puu.sh/rYmak/8afcc2a072.jpg . Anyway, it's your call in this case.
  13. 03:14:824 (1,2,3,4,5) - More recommendable in this case is to map until 03:15:263 - as a fully 1/4 stream to match with the guitar.
  14. 03:16:142 (8,9,10,11,12,13,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Okay, this is quite tricky and I'm not sure which instrument are you following while mapping this part. I've made another version of this timeline with Kurokami's help just by following the guitar, so check this out. http://puu.sh/rYnzs/8c9119e1b6.jpg . I'll give you the timestamps of every note, since some of the snaps are odd:
    SPOILER
    1. 03:16:068 (8) - 03:16:142 (9) - 03:16:215 (10) - 03:16:288 (11) - 03:16:361 (12) - 03:16:434 (13) - 03:16:532 (14) - 03:16:629 (15) - 03:16:678 (16) - 03:16:727 (1) - 03:16:873 (2) - 03:16:971 (3) - 03:17:068 (4) - 03:17:142 (5) - 03:17:215 (6) - 03:17:263 (7) - 03:17:312 (8) - 03:17:385 (9) - 03:17:459 (10) - 03:17:532 (11) -
  15. 03:34:361 (6,7,1) - I wonder if it's possible to get rid of that double HDash, since it's the only of its kind in this section (1/4 + 1/2) and looks a bit out of place.
  16. 03:39:849 (4,5,6,7) - You'll probably need to map 1/4s instead of 1/3s to follow the guitar, and additionally add a note at 03:40:215 - and 03:40:507 - .
  17. 03:41:898 (1,2,3,4) - I can only hear three beats instead of four this time. Definitely 1/3 notes in this case instead of 1/4s.
  18. 03:42:776 (7,8) - This part doesn't look that well regarding the timeline. I'd recommend you to have a simple slider instead of a slider with repetition and end it in a 1/3 beat instead, plus adding additional 1/3s to match the guitar drift. Here's my proposal: http://puu.sh/rZBzD/1b62fcc49d.jpg
  19. 03:52:727 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Another tricky stream to map properly due to the rather inconsistent guitar. I'd simplify it to just 1/4 beats instead because most of the 1/3s sound off and it seems there are at least 4 notes for every beat, but I wanna hear what other people think about them.
  20. 05:59:868 - Use a Finish instead of a Clap to match the cymbal.
  21. 07:47:681 (7) - This note doesn't need to be so noisy. Removing the Clap would give more importance to the next one, that marks the change of stanza.
[]
The concerns regarding the timeline will incline my thoughts to look for some additional mods before trying to get this map bubbled. I'd recommend you to look for a second opinion about the timeline at 03:16:142 - and 03:52:727 - if it's possible to get it simplified, or just to confirm it's precise enough. Anyway, I'll be waiting for your call when you've cleared everything up because I probably missed some stuff. Good luck!
Topic Starter
Kyuare

Deif wrote:

Finally I can get to this!

[General]
  1. Combo colours: The current grey-ish one is quite dark. Try to make it lighter to make a better contrast with the background picture. Optionally, you can do it as well with the purple you chose.
[Madness]
  1. 00:33:703 - It's not necessary to have that break time ended earlier than it should. Try to move (1) some beats back and forth to remove it. It can be done for the next breaks 05:50:268 - and 07:28:463 - .
  2. 00:46:580 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - It'd break your symmetry with the previous pattern, but it'd be recommendable to introduce a HDash between (6,7) to represent the high-pitched sound. Moving the beginning of the slider (7) a bit to the left should make it work.
  3. 01:08:824 (9) - Having a new combo in this note would empty the plate just before facing the spinner.
  4. 01:08:971 (1) - I'd make this spinner end at 01:10:873 - instead, where you can hear a stronger beat than the one you placed the end of the spinner at.
  5. 01:18:190 (1,2,3) - I don't have much problem with this kind of transition, but I bet many other people would complain about the fast movement they have to make here. I'd recommend nevertheless moving (2) a bit to the left in order to reduce the leniency of this pattern and the required movement after the HDash. You can do something similar to the twin pattern later on at 01:20:532 (1,2,3) - . Moving (2) a bit to the left will make the pattern more lenient, I think you wanted to said "to the right"
  6. 01:22:873 (1) - 01:23:459 (1) - It's quite tricky to have totally horizontal kicksliders after a HDash, especially with high SV and BPM like these ones. I'd recommend to incline those sliders to reduce the margin of error on this one. With the current sliders, players would either follow the zigzag movement completely or hope that they can catch everything by placing the catcher in the middle of it.
  7. 01:44:385 (7,8) - It's sorta frustrating to have a flowbreaker pattern in the middle of a long stream. You can move (7) to x:224 and (8) to x:272 to make the movement in the pattern more continuous. I don't think it's frustrating, I inclined 01:44:385 (7,8) - to make it easier to catch but i want to keep the flowbreaker effect because it fits really well with the music, sorry
  8. 03:01:800 (1,2,3,4) - Don't be so mean with that movement. Try at least moving (2) a bit to the left to soften the transition. Same with the pattern afterwards at 03:02:971 (1,2,3,4) - .
  9. 03:10:581 (1) - This slider should get extended to the next 1/6 beat 03:11:215 - to match with the important beat. Also fixed 03:11:312 (2,3,4) - for the consistency
  10. 03:11:411 (3,4) - These notes aren't properly snapped by a few miliseconds. Please resnap them properly.
  11. 03:13:434 - Optional to add, but an additional circle at this position would also be suitable.
  12. 03:13:800 (8,9,1) - Hearing the music carefully, these objects aren't matching the main instrument but just the background melody. Another option is to map those notes in 1/3 beats like in the example here: http://puu.sh/rYmak/8afcc2a072.jpg . Anyway, it's your call in this case. I'll use your option, it's much better
  13. 03:14:824 (1,2,3,4,5) - More recommendable in this case is to map until 03:15:263 - as a fully 1/4 stream to match with the guitar.
  14. 03:16:142 (8,9,10,11,12,13,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Okay, this is quite tricky and I'm not sure which instrument are you following while mapping this part. I've made another version of this timeline with Kurokami's help just by following the guitar, so check this out. http://puu.sh/rYnzs/8c9119e1b6.jpg . I'll give you the timestamps of every note, since some of the snaps are odd:
    SPOILER
    1. 03:16:068 (8) - 03:16:142 (9) - 03:16:215 (10) - 03:16:288 (11) - 03:16:361 (12) - 03:16:434 (13) - 03:16:532 (14) - 03:16:629 (15) - 03:16:678 (16) - 03:16:727 (1) - 03:16:873 (2) - 03:16:971 (3) - 03:17:068 (4) - 03:17:142 (5) - 03:17:215 (6) - 03:17:263 (7) - 03:17:312 (8) - 03:17:385 (9) - 03:17:459 (10) - 03:17:532 (11) -
    Okay, but I don't think there is something at 03:17:068 - so moved to 03:17:020 -
  15. 03:34:361 (6,7,1) - I wonder if it's possible to get rid of that double HDash, since it's the only of its kind in this section (1/4 + 1/2) and looks a bit out of place. moved 03:34:581 (1) - to x:112, it's easier to catch now
  16. 03:39:849 (4,5,6,7) - You'll probably need to map 1/4s instead of 1/3s to follow the guitar, and additionally add a note at 03:40:215 - and 03:40:507 - .
  17. 03:41:898 (1,2,3,4) - I can only hear three beats instead of four this time. Definitely 1/3 notes in this case instead of 1/4s.
  18. 03:42:776 (7,8) - This part doesn't look that well regarding the timeline. I'd recommend you to have a simple slider instead of a slider with repetition and end it in a 1/3 beat instead, plus adding additional 1/3s to match the guitar drift. Here's my proposal: http://puu.sh/rZBzD/1b62fcc49d.jpg
  19. 03:52:727 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Another tricky stream to map properly due to the rather inconsistent guitar. I'd simplify it to just 1/4 beats instead because most of the 1/3s sound off and it seems there are at least 4 notes for every beat, but I wanna hear what other people think about them. I will ask some friend about it
  20. 05:59:868 - Use a Finish instead of a Clap to match the cymbal.
  21. 07:47:681 (7) - This note doesn't need to be so noisy. Removing the Clap would give more importance to the next one, that marks the change of stanza.
[]
The concerns regarding the timeline will incline my thoughts to look for some additional mods before trying to get this map bubbled. I'd recommend you to look for a second opinion about the timeline at 03:16:142 - and 03:52:727 - if it's possible to get it simplified, or just to confirm it's precise enough. Anyway, I'll be waiting for your call when you've cleared everything up because I probably missed some stuff. Good luck!
Thank you very much !
o x
Woop woop fun map!

[Madness]
00:13:855 (6) - This note should be at 00:13:819
02:21:483 - I think there should be a note here. I hear the stream starting at 02:21:410 not 02:21:556 Also you put a whistle at the start of every stream so it would make sense to extend the stream.

There should be whistles on these notes. I think it sounds better like this.
  • 02:36:044 (9)
    02:36:337 (3)
    02:36:629 (7)
    02:36:922 (3)
    02:39:556 (1)
    02:39:849 (5)
    02:40:142 (1)
    02:40:434 (5)
    02:41:312 (1)
    02:41:605 (5)
    02:41:898 (1)
    02:42:190 (5)
    02:50:532 (3)
    05:18:630 (7)
    05:19:800 (7)
    08:13:974 (7)
07:10:316 - My favourite part of the song :)
03:17:142 (9) - I think it would be best to keep this in line with (14) try moving it to x:80 Sorry for nitpicking ;w;

That's all I can suggest, I love how this map play! Good job on this map!!! Good luck on rank!
INO
from game chat o/

Madness

・00:35:459 (3) - Ctrl + G
・01:43:946 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Please think about a pattern that is more inclined
(Because note is almost Linearly down, So it's difficult to catch)
・02:01:215 (3) - x=48
・03:13:800 (9,10,11) - I don't think this part is 1/3
・05:31:069 (1) - Ctrl + H(I want to jump to the right last note)
・06:40:902 (4) - a little left(X=256?)

I'm sorry with few mod ;w;
gl <3
Topic Starter
Kyuare

Cawub wrote:

Woop woop fun map!

[Madness]
00:13:855 (6) - This note should be at 00:13:819 No, the timeline is correct here
02:21:483 - I think there should be a note here. I hear the stream starting at 02:21:410 not 02:21:556 Also you put a whistle at the start of every stream so it would make sense to extend the stream. No I'm pretty sure there is no beat at 02:21:483 -

There should be whistles on these notes. I think it sounds better like this.
  • 02:36:044 (9)
    02:36:337 (3)
    02:36:629 (7)
    02:36:922 (3)
    02:39:556 (1)
    02:39:849 (5)
    02:40:142 (1)
    02:40:434 (5)
    02:41:312 (1)
    02:41:605 (5)
    02:41:898 (1)
    02:42:190 (5)
    02:50:532 (3)
    05:18:630 (7)
    05:19:800 (7)
    08:13:974 (7)
Sorry I tried and it sounds "too much" for me ;w;
07:10:316 - My favourite part of the song :) (:
03:17:142 (9) - I think it would be best to keep this in line with (14) try moving it to x:80 Sorry for nitpicking ;w; Done

That's all I can suggest, I love how this map play! Good job on this map!!! Good luck on rank!
Thanks !

INO wrote:

from game chat o/

Madness

・00:35:459 (3) - Ctrl + G
・01:43:946 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Please think about a pattern that is more inclined
(Because note is almost Linearly down, So it's difficult to catch)
・02:01:215 (3) - x=48
・03:13:800 (9,10,11) - I don't think this part is 1/3
・05:31:069 (1) - Ctrl + H(I want to jump to the right last note)
・06:40:902 (4) - a little left(X=256?)

I'm sorry with few mod ;w;
gl <3
All done thanks !
DUKI MODODIABLO
Epic map
Spectator
god tier map

please rank both diffs!
Nelly

Kyuare wrote:

Edit: nvm i'll try to rank both lol
Impossible challenge
Sanyi

Kyuare wrote:

Edit: nvm i'll try to rank both lol
GOD

btw if you need mods feel free to poke me, I'll try my best to help out then!
Jemzuu
nothing's impossible !

hello bns pls rank !!
koliron

Spectator wrote:

god tier map

please rank both diffs!
[490]Yukarin

Spectator wrote:

god tier map

please rank both diffs!
koliron
M4M

General
  1. O:

Overdose

  • 🍎 00:41:898 (1,2) - these sliders sounds a little weird imo, since you mapped the rest in 1/4 and it's te same thing, i think you should map it in 1/4 too owo, btw maybe you could reduce 00:42:483 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - these distances by a little, this pattern is a little weird to play
    🍎 00:43:654 - shouldn't there be a whistle here too? since there's another in 00:45:995 (5) - and it's the same sound
    🍎01:27:263 (8,1) - i think this hyperdash deseves alot more distance! even some hypers around here are stronger, like this one 01:26:824 (6,7) - but 01:27:263 (8,1) - should have an actual difference in my opinion (for example wiht something like this
    🍎01:36:629 (1) - i can see what you tried here but, the bpm is not enough to make that curve possible to see D: in play it's a vertical slider and i think that note deserves something better! what about something like this?
    🍎01:45:849 (3) - consider to remove this clap, so it would be consistent with the previous and next hitsounds owo
    🍎02:13:068 (1,2,3) - Just for aesthetic, what about move (2) a little to the right? it plays exactly the same but looks better!
    🍎from 02:29:020 - to 02:36:703 - it feels so repetitive to me (to be honest i think this is the only thing of the map that actually needs a look), consider to make some patterns that makes the player move to the left and right, it even feels a little boring to be in the middle for that much time >.<! for example, you did it so nice here 08:06:510 - it's around the same amount of hypers but it's perfectly mapped
    🍎02:42:849 (6,7) - what about an hyper here too? the vocal deserves to be emphasized here imo
    🍎02:46:288 (5,6,7) - same as above, it sould see alot better if the hyper is to 7 instead of 6
    🍎02:57:702 (1,2,3) - i'd move 3 a little more to the right since the voice is increasing, increase the distance would be nice too owo
    🍎03:37:361 (4,1) - same as above about the vertical slider owo but here it could be fixed with an hyper too
    🍎04:12:629 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - im noob but maybe these are a little hard to catch, what about reduce the distance between them by a little?
    🍎04:37:068 (8,1) -04:39:410 (8,1) - 04:41:751 (8,1) - hyperdash in these would be nice too owo
    🍎06:07:100 (1) - omg please curve this slider a little more, that droplet is just too evil D:
    🍎07:07:170 (2,3) - why drum samplest in these two? it sounds a little random imo, the soft one it's alot better for both

    the last kiai it's just perfectly mapped lol teach me how to map like that

Ophestra

  • omg those inherited points
    🍎 02:23:166 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - i really don't think this deserves thhe same distance as 02:23:678 (8,1) - , consider to make this one stronger!
    🍎 02:36:629 (1,2,3,4) - 02:37:215 (1,2,3,4) - i really like this pattern (i do always spam it in my maps) but i don't think that make a different distance to (3) makes it better, i'd suggest to keep the same distance between all of them, not only for aesthetic but also for playability
    🍎 03:08:824 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - i'd add hypers in both 3 to keep consistency with the previous patterns (03:06:483 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 03:07:654 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - )
    🍎 05:09:995 (1,2,3) - i really like this pattern but feels a little random since it's the only time you used it, consider to add it at least one more time in this section so it wouldn't feel that weird, for example here 05:11:166 (1,2,3,4) - 05:11:751 (1,2,3,4) -
    🍎 06:28:170 - this suggestion is also for the overdose, i know the vocal is pretty interesting here, but it is not intense at all, not even the instruments, and the patterns here are actually calm and easy, i don't really think this should be kiai time, consider to change these inherited points to normal time aaa sounds a little evil since there's like 500 inherited points here ;w;
    🍎 08:46:900 (2,3,4,5) - I can see that you emphasized this with the hitsounds, so why not with distance too :^) ? i'd make alot more space between these!

    To be honest there's not that much to suggest here, feels like the overdose but improved (a lot), all the kiais are so well mapped, specially the last one



welp, excelent map! i know you want to rank both diffs but tbh they play SO similar, if i were you i'd combine them keeping the best things from both!
Topic Starter
Kyuare

koliron wrote:

M4M

General
  1. O:

Overdose

  • 🍎 00:41:898 (1,2) - these sliders sounds a little weird imo, since you mapped the rest in 1/4 and it's te same thing, i think you should map it in 1/4 too owo, btw maybe you could reduce 00:42:483 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - these distances by a little, this pattern is a little weird to play
    🍎 00:43:654 - shouldn't there be a whistle here too? since there's another in 00:45:995 (5) - and it's the same sound
    🍎01:27:263 (8,1) - i think this hyperdash deseves alot more distance! even some hypers around here are stronger, like this one 01:26:824 (6,7) - but 01:27:263 (8,1) - should have an actual difference in my opinion (for example wiht something like this
    🍎01:36:629 (1) - i can see what you tried here but, the bpm is not enough to make that curve possible to see D: in play it's a vertical slider and i think that note deserves something better! what about something like this? I prefer the actual one,
    I don't really want to use sharp antiflow here because it will cause potential shitmiss

    🍎01:45:849 (3) - consider to remove this clap, so it would be consistent with the previous and next hitsounds owo
    🍎02:13:068 (1,2,3) - Just for aesthetic, what about move (2) a little to the right? it plays exactly the same but looks better!
    🍎from 02:29:020 - to 02:36:703 - it feels so repetitive to me (to be honest i think this is the only thing of the map that actually needs a look), consider to make some patterns that makes the player move to the left and right, it even feels a little boring to be in the middle for that much time >.<! for example, you did it so nice here 08:06:510 - it's around the same amount of hypers but it's perfectly mapped
    🍎02:42:849 (6,7) - what about an hyper here too? the vocal deserves to be emphasized here imo
    🍎02:46:288 (5,6,7) - same as above, it sould see alot better if the hyper is to 7 instead of 6
    🍎02:57:702 (1,2,3) - i'd move 3 a little more to the right since the voice is increasing, increase the distance would be nice too owo
    🍎03:37:361 (4,1) - same as above about the vertical slider owo but here it could be fixed with an hyper too
    🍎04:12:629 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - im noob but maybe these are a little hard to catch, what about reduce the distance between them by a little?
    🍎04:37:068 (8,1) -04:39:410 (8,1) - 04:41:751 (8,1) - hyperdash in these would be nice too owo i don't think so, it's a really calm section
    🍎06:07:100 (1) - omg please curve this slider a little more, that droplet is just too evil D: well I don't think it's evil o.o the curve is simple and easy to read
    🍎07:07:170 (2,3) - why drum samplest in these two? it sounds a little random imo, the soft one it's alot better for both
    not answered = fixed
    the last kiai it's just perfectly mapped lol teach me how to map like that

Ophestra

  • omg those inherited points
    🍎 02:23:166 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - i really don't think this deserves thhe same distance as 02:23:678 (8,1) - , consider to make this one stronger! okay
    🍎 02:36:629 (1,2,3,4) - 02:37:215 (1,2,3,4) - i really like this pattern (i do always spam it in my maps) but i don't think that make a different distance to (3) makes it better, i'd suggest to keep the same distance between all of them, not only for aesthetic but also for playability indeed
    🍎 03:08:824 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - i'd add hypers in both 3 to keep consistency with the previous patterns (03:06:483 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 03:07:654 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ) done
    🍎 05:09:995 (1,2,3) - i really like this pattern but feels a little random since it's the only time you used it, consider to add it at least one more time in this section so it wouldn't feel that weird, for example here 05:11:166 (1,2,3,4) - 05:11:751 (1,2,3,4) - sorry but it's wanted, this whole section is also unique in the music so I wanted to do the same for this one too
    🍎 06:28:170 - this suggestion is also for the overdose, i know the vocal is pretty interesting here, but it is not intense at all, not even the instruments, and the patterns here are actually calm and easy, i don't really think this should be kiai time, consider to change these inherited points to normal time aaa sounds a little evil since there's like 500 inherited points here ;w; patterns here are indeed easy to catch compared to other sections but i don't think it's calm, we can clearly hear strong instrumental here
    🍎 08:46:900 (2,3,4,5) - I can see that you emphasized this with the hitsounds, so why not with distance too :^) ? i'd make alot more space between these! done

    To be honest there's not that much to suggest here, feels like the overdose but improved (a lot), all the kiais are so well mapped, specially the last one



welp, excelent map! i know you want to rank both diffs but tbh they play SO similar, if i were you i'd combine them keeping the best things from both!
You're not the only one who told me that, and I agree. I wanted to rank both because some people prefer the old version, and some prefer the new one so I could satisfy everyone. I will remove the Overdose and link it, then try to combine best things from both.
It will also be easier for modders.
Thank you so much
Bunnrei
nice forest timeline

[requiem]
00:01:641 (1,1) - better to make the last repeat a separate circle for emphasis
00:15:355 (1) - same
01:03:849 (4,5,6) - move these farther from previous pattern caus its easily overshootable
01:25:215 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - i think making this increase gradually in spacing fits to match the guitar increasing in pitch gradually
02:26:312 (2) - move to x:200 so it matches the previous slider shapes (like in 02:25:507 (1) - )
02:38:239 (7,1,2) - make (1,2) the hyper instead of (7,1) cause the stronger beat's at (2) and this is currently an emphasis error
02:46:361 (6,7) - hyper for the vocal
02:49:141 (4,5) - also vocal emphasis, though a distance increase would do
03:19:946 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - odd how u didnt map the triples here but decided to do so in the next parts
08:21:291 (4,5) - increase spacing to reflect overall spacing of the section
08:46:900 (1,2,3,4) - sumthin like this can fit better:
Topic Starter
Kyuare

Chara wrote:

nice forest timeline

[requiem]
00:01:641 (1,1) - better to make the last repeat a separate circle for emphasis
00:15:355 (1) - same
01:03:849 (4,5,6) - move these farther from previous pattern caus its easily overshootable
01:25:215 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - i think making this increase gradually in spacing fits to match the guitar increasing in pitch gradually
02:26:312 (2) - move to x:200 so it matches the previous slider shapes (like in 02:25:507 (1) - )
02:38:239 (7,1,2) - make (1,2) the hyper instead of (7,1) cause the stronger beat's at (2) and this is currently an emphasis error
02:46:361 (6,7) - hyper for the vocal
02:49:141 (4,5) - also vocal emphasis, though a distance increase would do I prefer to keep this design since the vocal isn't strong at all
03:19:946 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - odd how u didnt map the triples here but decided to do so in the next parts
08:21:291 (4,5) - increase spacing to reflect overall spacing of the section it's reflecting the overall spacing, look at 08:20:852 (2) -
08:46:900 (1,2,3,4) - sumthin like this can fit better:
no answer = fixed
thank you :D
Ascendance
requiem
Del
This is my first real mod I guess, so I'm sorry if it isn't that helpful.

[Orphestra]
00:38:385 (1) - I think this plays fine, but I don't think the sound really calls for a hyper at the end of that slider
01:29:752 (8,9,1) - The timing for this jump is a little tight, maybe move (8,9) to x248. And then after move 01:30:190 (3,4) - to x 452 if you want to keep that hyper spacing consistent.
01:38:093 (1,2) - This sounds weird because the jump seems like it should land on 01:38:385 (2) - where the slider ends
01:39:556 (3) - same as above
04:48:922 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - These sliders are fine but there are sounds between some of them that suggest triples.
06:08:853 (8,9) - I think the spacing here is a little jarring after that hyper, so I suggest moving (9) to x:336 or even x:328.
Topic Starter
Kyuare

Del wrote:

This is my first real mod I guess, so I'm sorry if it isn't that helpful.

[Orphestra]
00:38:385 (1) - I think this plays fine, but I don't think the sound really calls for a hyper at the end of that slider we can hear a strong voice in foreground so I think it's fine
01:29:752 (8,9,1) - The timing for this jump is a little tight, maybe move (8,9) to x248. And then after move 01:30:190 (3,4) - to x 452 if you want to keep that hyper spacing consistent.
01:38:093 (1,2) - This sounds weird because the jump seems like it should land on 01:38:385 (2) - where the slider ends I wanted to follow the voice rather than the instrument, it won't sound weird if you pay attention do the voice
01:39:556 (3) - same as above same thing
04:48:922 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - These sliders are fine but there are sounds between some of them that suggest triples.
06:08:853 (8,9) - I think the spacing here is a little jarring after that hyper, so I suggest moving (9) to x:336 or even x:328.
no answer = fixed
It's a really helpful mod, you should do this more often :D
Thank you
Alostis
01:01:654 (7,8) - Quel que soit la façon dont je le vois, ce doublet est cool MAIS est source de shitmiss, surtout pour les joueurs qui restent appuyé, la première fois ils vont être surpris et shitmiss pour rien car tu peux pas l'fc en restant appuyé. Peut être le fix en le déplaçant le 8 vers la droite ou en changeant un peu le pattern pour que cette gêne ne se remarque pas.

01:07:654 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - En vrai ce pattern n'a aucun problème, c'est juste une suggestion : j'aurai accentué un peu plus le 2 et le 4 vers l'intérieur et faire de même avec les deuxièmes 2 et 4 pour encore plus marqué la progression de la musique et augmenter la jouabilité (c'est plus stylé en plus :d).

01:14:385 (2) - Pourquoi x1.33 puis x1.42 ? C'est rien d'alarmant, presque on s'en blc mais en HR non LUL :').

01:43:507 (6,7) - Faudrait nerf la distance entre les deux, y'a quand même un hyper x3.80 assez puissant avant et revenir sur du x1.30 juste après peut mener à un shitmiss des plus frustrant (comme dans les converts), mais le nerf pas trop, c'est pas nécessaire, un seul carré devrait suffire même.

02:57:410 (5) - Pourquoi lui a un previous de x0.89 alors que eux : 02:53:166 (2) - et 02:55:507 (2) - ont x1.00 ? Je trouve que le x0.89 passe mieux dans tous les cas donc je changerai les deux premier comme le dernier, ça rend plus clean et moins visible lorsqu'on les joue.

02:58:727 (5) - Il est beaucoup trop loin par rapport au previous, à chaque fois que je l'ai joué en editeur (environ 20 fois lul) je l'ai toujours eu, oui, mais c'était tout le temps très close, fait le test, tu verras que la plupart du temps tu le récupères avec le bord gauche de ton plateau.

03:09:117 (1,2,3,4) - Je ne comprend pas ce changement de pattern tout à coup alors que tu avais gardé tout le long celui là : 03:06:483 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ce qui détruit un peu la balance selon moi.

03:36:190 (4,1) - et 03:37:361 (3,4) - comment je peux ne pas te sucer la teub après avoir vu jusqu'où va les détails de ton mapping xDDD. Rien à redire, ça se voit pas ingame mais c'est cool quand tu le remarques que tout est calculé 8-) .

04:14:824 (7,8) - Celui là est tricky, déplacer le 8 un peu plus vers la droite rendrait le pattern beaucoup facile et moins shitmissable, c'est rien mais ça change tout.

05:54:800 (1,2,3,4,5) - Deux fois d'affilé dans le même sens, puis après ça continue jusqu'à 4 fois d'affilé que le 4-5 se situe dans le même sens, faudrait varier, ça rendrait beaucoup mieux selon moi (même si ça te donnerai beaucoup de boulot en plus xD).

07:02:707 (2,3,4,5) - Franchement ceux d'avant j'peux comprendre pourquoi c'était comme ça mais là ça part dans les aigu et ça CRIE "AU GAUCHE DROITE" bref, tu m'as compris, t'aurais pu faire un gauche droite rapidos du type sans dash ni rien mais ça rendrait moins... plat.

07:39:989 (2,3,4,5,6) - La première fois que je l'ai joué, j'ai pas compris, la deuxième fois j'ai fait AH OUI, la troisième fois j'me suis dit que c'était boff. Conclusion, le sex... le pattern est pas ouf ouf, ça pourrait être beaucoup mieux, après j'ai pas trop d'idée sur le coup.

07:49:974 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1) - C'est jouable mais c'est pas ouf non plus, j'aurai fait le slider incurvé (WOW LA COURBE, OLALA, PARFAITE) :?: Pour amortir le dash 2-1 au début puis ça te permet par le suite de faire un pattern 2-3-4 un peu plus propre par la suite.

07:56:705 (4) - x1.50 :? (pense à l'HR, pense à l'HR ;w;) en plus j'ai une raison valable pour dire que c'est too much car lui 08:02:559 (4) - est x1.40 HAHAHA, j'ai trouvé la faille :'). Le saint graal mdr.

08:05:778 (3,1) - écoute en speed 25%, ça colle vraiment pas et ingame ça s'entend si tu mets le son ULTRA fort, c'est pas en rythme et ça déstabilise un peu (tout ça à cause de ce chanteur de merde qui sait pas suivre le tempo tain). Je sais pas si c'est utile de changer quelque chose pour le ranking mais si c'est important au moins je l'aurai précisé.

Voilà, ce sera tout pour moi, c'pas très sérieux tout ça mais bon, 4 the rank (by the way, t'as bien géré sur les changements au niveau des HS, merci c:).
Topic Starter
Kyuare

Aqliva wrote:

01:01:654 (7,8) - Quel que soit la façon dont je le vois, ce doublet est cool MAIS est source de shitmiss, surtout pour les joueurs qui restent appuyé, la première fois ils vont être surpris et shitmiss pour rien car tu peux pas l'fc en restant appuyé. Peut être le fix en le déplaçant le 8 vers la droite ou en changeant un peu le pattern pour que cette gêne ne se remarque pas.

01:07:654 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - En vrai ce pattern n'a aucun problème, c'est juste une suggestion : j'aurai accentué un peu plus le 2 et le 4 vers l'intérieur et faire de même avec les deuxièmes 2 et 4 pour encore plus marqué la progression de la musique et augmenter la jouabilité (c'est plus stylé en plus :d). j'aurais bien voulu mais je peux pas les accentuer plus vers l'intérieur sinon ça retirerait l'hyper

01:14:385 (2) - Pourquoi x1.33 puis x1.42 ? C'est rien d'alarmant, presque on s'en blc mais en HR non LUL :'). pour souligner le gros beat qu'il y a, mais je peux toujours nerf de 0.05

01:43:507 (6,7) - Faudrait nerf la distance entre les deux, y'a quand même un hyper x3.80 assez puissant avant et revenir sur du x1.30 juste après peut mener à un shitmiss des plus frustrant (comme dans les converts), mais le nerf pas trop, c'est pas nécessaire, un seul carré devrait suffire même.

02:57:410 (5) - Pourquoi lui a un previous de x0.89 alors que eux : 02:53:166 (2) - et 02:55:507 (2) - ont x1.00 ? Je trouve que le x0.89 passe mieux dans tous les cas donc je changerai les deux premier comme le dernier, ça rend plus clean et moins visible lorsqu'on les joue.

02:58:727 (5) - Il est beaucoup trop loin par rapport au previous, à chaque fois que je l'ai joué en editeur (environ 20 fois lul) je l'ai toujours eu, oui, mais c'était tout le temps très close, fait le test, tu verras que la plupart du temps tu le récupères avec le bord gauche de ton plateau.

03:09:117 (1,2,3,4) - Je ne comprend pas ce changement de pattern tout à coup alors que tu avais gardé tout le long celui là : 03:06:483 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ce qui détruit un peu la balance selon moi. c'est justement l'effet voulu, cette section est différente des précédentes et introduit vers une nouvelle mélodie

03:36:190 (4,1) - et 03:37:361 (3,4) - comment je peux ne pas te sucer la teub après avoir vu jusqu'où va les détails de ton mapping xDDD. Rien à redire, ça se voit pas ingame mais c'est cool quand tu le remarques que tout est calculé 8-) .

04:14:824 (7,8) - Celui là est tricky, déplacer le 8 un peu plus vers la droite rendrait le pattern beaucoup facile et moins shitmissable, c'est rien mais ça change tout.

05:54:800 (1,2,3,4,5) - Deux fois d'affilé dans le même sens, puis après ça continue jusqu'à 4 fois d'affilé que le 4-5 se situe dans le même sens, faudrait varier, ça rendrait beaucoup mieux selon moi (même si ça te donnerai beaucoup de boulot en plus xD).

07:02:707 (2,3,4,5) - Franchement ceux d'avant j'peux comprendre pourquoi c'était comme ça mais là ça part dans les aigu et ça CRIE "AU GAUCHE DROITE" bref, tu m'as compris, t'aurais pu faire un gauche droite rapidos du type sans dash ni rien mais ça rendrait moins... plat. j'ai pensé à un pattern différent pour plus de diversité

07:39:989 (2,3,4,5,6) - La première fois que je l'ai joué, j'ai pas compris, la deuxième fois j'ai fait AH OUI, la troisième fois j'me suis dit que c'était boff. Conclusion, le sex... le pattern est pas ouf ouf, ça pourrait être beaucoup mieux, après j'ai pas trop d'idée sur le coup.

07:49:974 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1) - C'est jouable mais c'est pas ouf non plus, j'aurai fait le slider incurvé (WOW LA COURBE, OLALA, PARFAITE) :?: Pour amortir le dash 2-1 au début puis ça te permet par le suite de faire un pattern 2-3-4 un peu plus propre par la suite.

07:56:705 (4) - x1.50 :? (pense à l'HR, pense à l'HR ;w;) en plus j'ai une raison valable pour dire que c'est too much car lui 08:02:559 (4) - est x1.40 HAHAHA, j'ai trouvé la faille :'). Le saint graal mdr. bien trouvé :)

08:05:778 (3,1) - écoute en speed 25%, ça colle vraiment pas et ingame ça s'entend si tu mets le son ULTRA fort, c'est pas en rythme et ça déstabilise un peu (tout ça à cause de ce chanteur de merde qui sait pas suivre le tempo tain). Je sais pas si c'est utile de changer quelque chose pour le ranking mais si c'est important au moins je l'aurai précisé. en effet c'est du 1/6 en fait

Voilà, ce sera tout pour moi, c'pas très sérieux tout ça mais bon, 4 the rank (by the way, t'as bien géré sur les changements au niveau des HS, merci c:).
Merci beaucoup, tu devrais mod plus souvent :>
J'ai fix toutes tes suggestions non répondues
autofanboy
Happy New Year!

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[ General]

  • Beatmap Files
  1. Remove "in_the_end____by_nanomortis-d9vszec" background image as it is not used. (Used in the old difficulty)
  2. Since you included the background maker in the tag (NanoMortis) and I don't know the original source of the new background, maybe you can find it out and add the creator of that background? If he/she is not NanoMortis, make sure you removed the old tag as well.

[ Ophestra]

  • Repeated Inherited Sections
  1. 00:43:068 -
  2. 01:08:678 -
  3. 01:08:751 -
  4. 01:11:166 -
  5. 01:11:312 -
  6. 03:12:044 -
  7. 05:12:410 -

    Gameplay
  8. 00:14:498 (5) - Sounds better if you add Whistle to the head of the slider.
  9. 00:51:923 (7,8,9) - I find it fit if you put a hyperdash at (7,8). Maybe this pattern helps: *Screenshot. If you want to make it easier, you can also incline (7,8) to the vertical a little for easier jumping.
  10. 00:52:874 (4,5) - Add a hyperdash, as it starts to become intense after 00:52:434 - . Also it will be consistent with 00:55:214 (4,5) - , which is mapped with a hyperdash at same rhythm.
  11. 01:01:654 (7,8) - Flow will be improved slightly if you incline this more to the horizontal, because the part 01:01:507 (5,6,7,8,1) - causes players to stop at (7,8) while dashing, also as a finisher it is always good to be a bit more intense, so dash-holding seems suitable.
  12. 01:56:532 (5,1) - Don't really like this kind of transition, as players have to wait at (5) to catch the hyperdash well. Maybe slant (5) a bit more to the left? If space is not enough, you can move 01:55:654 (1,2,3,4,5) - altogether to the right to fit that in.
  13. 02:24:702 (7) - Flip this horizontally and place at original spot?
  14. 02:25:507 (1,2,3,4) - Not a fan of such pattern, especially the pattern doesn't favor the jump at (3,4). I think changing to this may seem better: *Screenshot. Moreover it adds up some variations so the patterns are not too similar with all these kinda-vertical and horizontal doublets/quadruplets.
  15. 02:31:068 (5) - How about curving them outwards?
  16. 02:31:653 (3) - ^
  17. 03:11:898 (8,1) - Reduce the distance for a bit here? A bit far in my opinion.
  18. 03:48:629 (3,4) - Maybe add a hyperdash here? Like this: *Screenshot
  19. 03:50:824 (2,3) - Same here, hyperdash seems great here. You can change 03:50:971 (3,4) - to a horizontal slider and start from the left, pointing to the right.
  20. 04:14:239 (7,8) - Slant it more to the horizontal? I think moving (8) to x:256 would be enough.
  21. 04:14:824 (7,8) - ^, in the opposite.
  22. 05:03:776 (2) - Flip horizontally and place at original spot?
  23. 05:21:263 (3,4) - Change this to a doublet like 05:20:385 (7,8) - because hearing the part at 05:21:117 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - , I think the important beats are (1), (5) and (7), so maybe dashes are made to emphasize those 3 beats and ignore the one at (3) by changing to the recommended solution.
  24. 06:28:170 (1,2) - Add a hyperdash here to stay consistent with the later-on patterns at 06:30:511 (1,2) - , 06:32:853 (1,2) - and etc. which are all with similar rhythm.
  25. 06:34:024 (4) - NC?
  26. 06:37:536 (1,2) - Same thing as 06:28:170 (1,2) - but you can add hyperdash at 06:37:975 (2,3) - as well, so it is consistent with 06:39:877 (1,2,3) - which has similar hyperdash patterning.
  27. 08:08:047 (6) - Remove the Whistle hitsound and add the one at 08:08:120 (7) - instead.
  28. 08:09:291 (1) - Remove NC, then add NC at 08:09:437 (3) - . Also remove NC at 08:09:583 (1) - .
  29. 08:15:365 (2,3) - How about changing this to a dash only? In 08:15:291 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - , important beats are denoted by the vocal, which are (1), (5) and (7). Since this part is intense, the beats will be emphasized by hyperdashes, so in this case hyperdash at (2,3) can be changed to a dash for better emphasis.

Masterpiece!
Call me after the fix for a recheck!
Topic Starter
Kyuare

alienflybot wrote:

Happy New Year!

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[ General]

  • Beatmap Files
  1. Remove "in_the_end____by_nanomortis-d9vszec" background image as it is not used. (Used in the old difficulty)
  2. Since you included the background maker in the tag (NanoMortis) and I don't know the original source of the new background, maybe you can find it out and add the creator of that background? If he/she is not NanoMortis, make sure you removed the old tag as well.

[ Ophestra]

  • Repeated Inherited Sections
  1. 00:43:068 -
  2. 01:08:678 -
  3. 01:08:751 -
  4. 01:11:166 -
  5. 01:11:312 -
  6. 03:12:044 -
  7. 05:12:410 -

    Gameplay
  8. 00:14:498 (5) - Sounds better if you add Whistle to the head of the slider.
  9. 00:51:923 (7,8,9) - I find it fit if you put a hyperdash at (7,8). Maybe this pattern helps: *Screenshot. If you want to make it easier, you can also incline (7,8) to the vertical a little for easier jumping.
  10. 00:52:874 (4,5) - Add a hyperdash, as it starts to become intense after 00:52:434 - . Also it will be consistent with 00:55:214 (4,5) - , which is mapped with a hyperdash at same rhythm.
  11. 01:01:654 (7,8) - Flow will be improved slightly if you incline this more to the horizontal, because the part 01:01:507 (5,6,7,8,1) - causes players to stop at (7,8) while dashing, also as a finisher it is always good to be a bit more intense, so dash-holding seems suitable.
  12. 01:56:532 (5,1) - Don't really like this kind of transition, as players have to wait at (5) to catch the hyperdash well. Maybe slant (5) a bit more to the left? If space is not enough, you can move 01:55:654 (1,2,3,4,5) - altogether to the right to fit that in. well i really like this transition, i can curve the slider to improve the flow but i want to keep the head and the tail as it is
  13. 02:24:702 (7) - Flip this horizontally and place at original spot? I prefer to follow the flow normally, small antiflow can cause potential shitmiss
  14. 02:25:507 (1,2,3,4) - Not a fan of such pattern, especially the pattern doesn't favor the jump at (3,4). I think changing to this may seem better: *Screenshot. Moreover it adds up some variations so the patterns are not too similar with all these kinda-vertical and horizontal doublets/quadruplets. i like it
  15. 02:31:068 (5) - How about curving them outwards?
  16. 02:31:653 (3) - ^
  17. 03:11:898 (8,1) - Reduce the distance for a bit here? A bit far in my opinion.
  18. 03:48:629 (3,4) - Maybe add a hyperdash here? Like this: *Screenshot
  19. 03:50:824 (2,3) - Same here, hyperdash seems great here. You can change 03:50:971 (3,4) - to a horizontal slider and start from the left, pointing to the right.
  20. 04:14:239 (7,8) - Slant it more to the horizontal? I think moving (8) to x:256 would be enough.
  21. 04:14:824 (7,8) - ^, in the opposite.
  22. 05:03:776 (2) - Flip horizontally and place at original spot? same thing than 02:24:702 (7) -, antiflow would be shitmissable
  23. 05:21:263 (3,4) - Change this to a doublet like 05:20:385 (7,8) - because hearing the part at 05:21:117 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - , I think the important beats are (1), (5) and (7), so maybe dashes are made to emphasize those 3 beats and ignore the one at (3) by changing to the recommended solution. fixed in my way
  24. 06:28:170 (1,2) - Add a hyperdash here to stay consistent with the later-on patterns at 06:30:511 (1,2) - , 06:32:853 (1,2) - and etc. which are all with similar rhythm.
  25. 06:34:024 (4) - NC?
  26. 06:37:536 (1,2) - Same thing as 06:28:170 (1,2) - but you can add hyperdash at 06:37:975 (2,3) - as well, so it is consistent with 06:39:877 (1,2,3) - which has similar hyperdash patterning.
  27. 08:08:047 (6) - Remove the Whistle hitsound and add the one at 08:08:120 (7) - instead.
  28. 08:09:291 (1) - Remove NC, then add NC at 08:09:437 (3) - . Also remove NC at 08:09:583 (1) - .
  29. 08:15:365 (2,3) - How about changing this to a dash only? In 08:15:291 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - , important beats are denoted by the vocal, which are (1), (5) and (7). Since this part is intense, the beats will be emphasized by hyperdashes, so in this case hyperdash at (2,3) can be changed to a dash for better emphasis.

Masterpiece!
Call me after the fix for a recheck!
No answer = fixed as you said.
Really helpful, thank you very much.
autofanboy
Recheck!

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[ General]

  • Tags
  1. Consider adding tag: ICDD (abbreviation of the artist band)

[ Ophestra]

  • Gameplay
  1. 00:25:777 (1,2,3) - Pattern here doesn't emphasize the song here desirably. How about using timeline like this: *Screenshot
  2. 02:21:995 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Feels strange in gameplay, maybe add hyperdashes to emphasize Whistles instead of using the current setting? To represent it in brief words: 4-2-2 (hyphens as the positions of potential hyperdashes) would fit at this part.
  3. 07:49:535 - , 07:49:754 - I understand why you put Kiai flashes at these moments but I think the effect is not going so well as the splashes at these time are hindered by the flash at 07:49:535 - . I recommend removing the two mentioned Kiai flashes which can actually emphasize the upcoming one at 07:50:120 - .

That's it! Poke me right after the update!
Topic Starter
Kyuare

alienflybot wrote:

Recheck!

█ Optional to change --- █ Suggested to change --- █ Unrankable

[ General]

  • Tags
  1. Consider adding tag: ICDD (abbreviation of the artist band)

[ Ophestra]

  • Gameplay
  1. 00:25:777 (1,2,3) - Pattern here doesn't emphasize the song here desirably. How about using timeline like this: *Screenshot
  2. 02:21:995 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Feels strange in gameplay, maybe add hyperdashes to emphasize Whistles instead of using the current setting? To represent it in brief words: 4-2-2 (hyphens as the positions of potential hyperdashes) would fit at this part.
  3. 07:49:535 - , 07:49:754 - I understand why you put Kiai flashes at these moments but I think the effect is not going so well as the splashes at these time are hindered by the flash at 07:49:535 - . I recommend removing the two mentioned Kiai flashes which can actually emphasize the upcoming one at 07:50:120 - .

That's it! Poke me right after the update!
All fixed !
autofanboy
Hard-earned and well-deserved.

Bubbled!

Note that the bug regarding to update prompt can be neglected, as it does not take effect when the map achieved its ranked status.
Spectator
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Topic Starter
Kyuare

Spectator wrote:

yes
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Dea ex machina

Kyuare wrote:

Spectator wrote:

yes
yes
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Hareimu

-wwwww wrote:

Kyuare wrote:

yes
yes
yes

popping this thing since I found some unrankable stuff.

[General]
  1. The map's BG has a pretty weird resolution (1200x850). Perhaps you could consider using this one? https://katabami.s-ul.eu/ffHNe3GE
[Timing]
  1. 05:31:068 - There are both a red timing point with a S:C1 set number and a green line with a S:C2 set number on the same place here, which is unrankable due to it causing unwanted issues. Please remove the green line (since it doesn't change volume/SV, just a sampleset) and choose either S:C1 or S:C2 for the red timing point.
  2. List of useless green lines I found on the map
    00:43:068 -
    00:52:434 -
    01:08:678 -
    01:08:751 -
    01:11:166 -
    01:11:312 -
    03:12:044 -
    05:12:385 -
    05:31:143 - Whether you decide to use S:C1 or S:C2 for the red line before this green line, then delete this one since it's useless (There is a red line at 05:50:300 - that changes the sampleset to C1 anyway).
[Ophestra]

  1. 00:09:355 (2) - The head of this slider shouldn't have a whistle. Same with 00:12:783 (3) - and 00:19:641 (3) - .
  2. 00:26:527 (2) - This slider should finish 00:26:777 - here, since that's where the piano-music box note is in the bg, not 00:27:027 - here.
  3. 00:51:923 (7,8) - These two notes should be snapped to 1/3 ticks, since the drum sounds in the background are clearly distanced by 1/3 of a beat apart from each other. Same for the sliderend of 00:52:142 (9) -
  4. 01:25:215 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - If anything, the distances between the first and second notes of all these 3plets should go from 1,0x ascending by ,2x so that they're 1,0x, 1,2x, 1,4x until 1,6x. It works better IMO, and moving 01:25:215 (1,2,3) - to x:130 solves the problem of not triggering a hdash into 01:25:654 (4) - .
  5. 01:56:824 (1,2) - I believe these should be a single 1/1 slider, not a 3/4 one and a note, since there is nothing to emphasize with a hyper on the place (2) is placed at.
    02:14:385 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - Why do you spend so much time on the right side of the screen with these patterns? I can't really seem to find a reason for which you did this, so unless you explain the reasoning behind this a bit further I think you'd be better off spreading these patterns to the middle/left side as well.
  6. 02:27:995 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - This pattern is quite uncomfortable and unfitting to play, since with the antiflow movement you're emphasizing 02:28:069 (4,5,6,7) - these notes, which don't have anything special enough as to make them stand out this much from the rest of the streams. If anything, I would've emphasized 02:27:995 (3) - this specific note, since it's over the highest pitched guitar riff of the whole pattern. Either way, the whole pattern could be just a left-left pattern using vertical sliders (kinda like 02:47:166 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this but with hypers in between and with better flow)
  7. 03:13:580 (7,8,1) - You'd be better off consistently emphasizing the guitar solo in the background for these jumps instead IMO (a.k.a. remove hyper into (8) and keep the one from 8 to 1? emphasizes the important guitar riffs over the drums better)
  8. 04:26:678 (1,2) - Same as before, these should be a single slider instead.
  9. 04:53:020 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - These should be snapped to 1/3, not 1/4 ticks.
  10. 05:22:142 (3) - Why are you now mapping this with a 1/4 slider? You didn't do so in the first kiai 02:52:361 - here. Same with 05:24:484 (3) - this slider.
  11. 05:58:500 (3,4) - These notes should be snapped to 1/3. 06:08:560 (6,7) - This should be three 1/3 notes instead (06:08:560 - here, 06:08:658 - here and 06:08:755 - here), since the drum sounds clearly are laid out in a 1/3 pattern in the background. Also 06:08:150 (3) - this note should be placed 06:08:075 - here to follow the organ sounds correctly. You're also ignoring a drum sound 06:09:146 - here. This whole point is made up of wrong snaps and rhythm following because starting from 05:57:950 - here and ending 05:59:000 - here and starting from 06:07:550 - here and ending 06:09:438 - here the rhytmical structures are really, really weird, and I believe that following these points will help following it a little bit better.
  12. 06:19:024 (2,5,5) - These three notes should either be placed 1/4 tick before from where they actually are (so that they are over red ticks instead) or should be deleted altogether, since having them on those blue ticks is really weird and doesn't follow any instruments at all (not even drums).
  13. 07:09:731 (1,2,3) - I think that placing these over at x:395 and moving 07:10:316 (7) - to x:457 works a lot better than the actual pattern, but that might just be me. Try it out and tell me what do you think!
  14. 08:15:291 (1,2,3,4) - This pattern is cheap and overkill IMO, since the whole kiai until now has been really fast movement hypers and just sticking in a 1/4 dash in between all of them completely kills the mood and can cause a lot of insta-deaths due to the next 08:15:583 (5,6,7,8,1) - objects. To solve this, try moving 08:15:144 (7,8) - to x:161, and both 08:15:291 (1,2) - and 08:15:437 (3,4) - to x:256. This plays way better and is even more satisfying to catch.
  15. 08:29:925 (1,2,3,4) - This pattern is okay on its own since it perfectly emphasizes the singer's loud highpitched scream, but to have 08:32:852 (6,7,8,9) - this just a couple measures next to it makes it feel a lot less special than it should be. I've been testing around with some patterns and came to the conclusion that you should probably try moving 08:32:998 (7) - to x:72, 08:33:144 (8) - to x:360 and 08:33:291 (9) - to x:440. It makes a lot more sense like this tbh, but that's just my POV, so you might disagree.
  16. 08:39:876 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I can't really see the reasoning behind this patterning, (especially for 08:40:316 (5,6,1) - these three). Why is (2) emphasized with a hdash? Following rhythmical logic, (3) and (5) should be the only ones emphasized instead.

aaaaand that's about everything I could find. You should probably call afb back to rebubble when you fix the unrankable things, and if Deif is still dead for the time that happens, I can do the final check in his place instead. Good luck!
Topic Starter
Kyuare

Hareimu wrote:

yes
yes


popping this thing since I found some unrankable stuff. my bad

[General]
  1. The map's BG has a pretty weird resolution (1200x850). Perhaps you could consider using this one? https://katabami.s-ul.eu/ffHNe3GE sure, thank you !
[Timing]
  1. 05:31:068 - There are both a red timing point with a S:C1 set number and a green line with a S:C2 set number on the same place here, which is unrankable due to it causing unwanted issues. Please remove the green line (since it doesn't change volume/SV, just a sampleset) and choose either S:C1 or S:C2 for the red timing point. indeed, i was careless
  2. List of useless green lines I found on the map
    00:43:068 -
    00:52:434 -
    01:08:678 -
    01:08:751 -
    01:11:166 -
    01:11:312 -
    03:12:044 -
    05:12:385 -
    05:31:143 - Whether you decide to use S:C1 or S:C2 for the red line before this green line, then delete this one since it's useless (There is a red line at 05:50:300 - that changes the sampleset to C1 anyway).
    fixed
[Ophestra]

  1. 00:09:355 (2) - The head of this slider shouldn't have a whistle. Same with 00:12:783 (3) - and 00:19:641 (3) - . why ? we can definitly hear stronger beat
  2. 00:26:527 (2) - This slider should finish 00:26:777 - here, since that's where the piano-music box note is in the bg, not 00:27:027 - here. fine, i also Ctrl+H the following pattern for consistency
  3. 00:51:923 (7,8) - These two notes should be snapped to 1/3 ticks, since the drum sounds in the background are clearly distanced by 1/3 of a beat apart from each other. Same for the sliderend of 00:52:142 (9) - indeed !
  4. 01:25:215 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - If anything, the distances between the first and second notes of all these 3plets should go from 1,0x ascending by ,2x so that they're 1,0x, 1,2x, 1,4x until 1,6x. It works better IMO, and moving 01:25:215 (1,2,3) - to x:130 solves the problem of not triggering a hdash into 01:25:654 (4) - . fixed in my way but kept the idea of 0.2x per triplets
  5. 01:56:824 (1,2) - I believe these should be a single 1/1 slider, not a 3/4 one and a note, since there is nothing to emphasize with a hyper on the place (2) is placed at. I can clearly hear a strong beat, I believe it's a good idea to take advantage of it to create different pattern.
    02:14:385 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - Why do you spend so much time on the right side of the screen with these patterns? I can't really seem to find a reason for which you did this, so unless you explain the reasoning behind this a bit further I think you'd be better off spreading these patterns to the middle/left side as well. i did it on purpose to create a good transition for the following part: 02:16:727 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - . The singer starts towards the low notes and then turn suddenly towards higher notes, I wanted to represent that with a big contrast.
  6. 02:27:995 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - This pattern is quite uncomfortable and unfitting to play, since with the antiflow movement you're emphasizing 02:28:069 (4,5,6,7) - these notes, which don't have anything special enough as to make them stand out this much from the rest of the streams. If anything, I would've emphasized 02:27:995 (3) - this specific note, since it's over the highest pitched guitar riff of the whole pattern. Either way, the whole pattern could be just a left-left pattern using vertical sliders (kinda like 02:47:166 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this but with hypers in between and with better flow) Fixed in my way, it's easier and more intuitive
  7. 03:13:580 (7,8,1) - You'd be better off consistently emphasizing the guitar solo in the background for these jumps instead IMO (a.k.a. remove hyper into (8) and keep the one from 8 to 1? emphasizes the important guitar riffs over the drums better) I prefer to keep the hyper for consistency with the previous pattern, it's also to avoid potential shitmiss
  8. 04:26:678 (1,2) - Same as before, these should be a single slider instead. same thing, I do hear a strong beat on the white tick and believe this HDash is suited.
  9. 04:53:020 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - These should be snapped to 1/3, not 1/4 ticks. indeed !
  10. 05:22:142 (3) - Why are you now mapping this with a 1/4 slider? You didn't do so in the first kiai 02:52:361 - here. Same with 05:24:484 (3) - this slider. wups, changed it into a circle.
  11. 05:58:500 (3,4) - These notes should be snapped to 1/3. 06:08:560 (6,7) - This should be three 1/3 notes instead (06:08:560 - here, 06:08:658 - here and 06:08:755 - here), since the drum sounds clearly are laid out in a 1/3 pattern in the background. Also 06:08:150 (3) - this note should be placed 06:08:075 - here to follow the organ sounds correctly. You're also ignoring a drum sound 06:09:146 - here. This whole point is made up of wrong snaps and rhythm following because starting from 05:57:950 - here and ending 05:59:000 - here and starting from 06:07:550 - here and ending 06:09:438 - here the rhytmical structures are really, really weird, and I believe that following these points will help following it a little bit better.fixed everything listed but the last point because I prefer to follow the voice for better transition.
  12. 06:19:024 (2,5,5) - These three notes should either be placed 1/4 tick before from where they actually are (so that they are over red ticks instead) or should be deleted altogether, since having them on those blue ticks is really weird and doesn't follow any instruments at all (not even drums). I do think they follow drums, but it's indeed better to follow 1/2 here
  13. 07:09:731 (1,2,3) - I think that placing these over at x:395 and moving 07:10:316 (7) - to x:457 works a lot better than the actual pattern, but that might just be me. Try it out and tell me what do you think! Sorry I prefer to keep the HDash only for (7) for a bigger contrast, adding a HDash would also be inconsistent with the previous pattern because i didn't use it for them too.
  14. 08:15:291 (1,2,3,4) - This pattern is cheap and overkill IMO, since the whole kiai until now has been really fast movement hypers and just sticking in a 1/4 dash in between all of them completely kills the mood and can cause a lot of insta-deaths due to the next 08:15:583 (5,6,7,8,1) - objects. To solve this, try moving 08:15:144 (7,8) - to x:161, and both 08:15:291 (1,2) - and 08:15:437 (3,4) - to x:256. This plays way better and is even more satisfying to catch. nice idea
  15. 08:29:925 (1,2,3,4) - This pattern is okay on its own since it perfectly emphasizes the singer's loud highpitched scream, but to have 08:32:852 (6,7,8,9) - this just a couple measures next to it makes it feel a lot less special than it should be. I've been testing around with some patterns and came to the conclusion that you should probably try moving 08:32:998 (7) - to x:72, 08:33:144 (8) - to x:360 and 08:33:291 (9) - to x:440. It makes a lot more sense like this tbh, but that's just my POV, so you might disagree. fixed in my way
  16. 08:39:876 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I can't really see the reasoning behind this patterning, (especially for 08:40:316 (5,6,1) - these three). Why is (2) emphasized with a hdash? Following rhythmical logic, (3) and (5) should be the only ones emphasized instead. (2) is special because there is the voice too. I used it to create a different pattern to follow the crescendo.

aaaaand that's about everything I could find. You should probably call afb back to rebubble when you fix the unrankable things, and if Deif is still dead for the time that happens, I can do the final check in his place instead. Good luck!
Thank you very much ! :D Deif told me he will finish his check as soon as he can.
Deif
RIP Madness...

[General]
  1. Combo colours: The dark ones you used are too dark and blend with the background picture. The following 4 colors or a similar combination would be enough to fit better with your current background.

    [Colours]
    Combo1 : 255,91,91
    Combo2 : 255,240,222
    Combo3 : 255,164,60
    Combo4 : 255,176,170
[Orphestra]
  1. 00:30:180 (7) - Please introduce a break manually in there. The pause is around 3 seconds long and there's a big drain drop because of that (gets around 50% having a FC previously).
  2. 02:17:166 (4,5) - That 1/4 hyper isn't really that necessary as the melody doesn't have anything relevant to remark. Try to move the end of the slider (4) closer to the next circle to remove the hyper.
  3. 02:36:629 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Having two of those wiggle patterns after the stop&go at 02:36:190 (3,4) - makes it quite easy to miss in this section. Try to cluster those notes 02:36:629 (1,2,3,4) - 02:37:215 (1,2,3,4) - a bit more or create more flow-friendly patterns instead.
  4. 02:38:971 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Those back-and-forth patterns are more typical of lower BPM songs (until 150-160 I'd say). It'd be more appropriated at this speed if those were more vertical instead.
  5. 03:00:044 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Try to make the shapes more curvy by moving (3) a bit more to the left and (6) a bit more to the right?
  6. 03:17:020 (1,2,3,4,5) - Those notes sound more accurate as 1/6s rather than 1/4s, as you've been following mainly the guitar in this section. The combination afterwards from 03:17:605 - on of mapping to the drums and including hypers over the guitar looks okay as it is.
  7. 03:46:873 (1,2,3,4) - Would it be possible to get the (1) and (3) objects a bit away from the left edge of the screen? It's quite easy to hit the wall with those consecutive hypers.
  8. 04:01:508 (3,4) - Hm, a new idea could've been used to match the different guitar tone used at this jump. Maybe something like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10046407
  9. 04:06:483 (7,1) - Could it be possible to increase the distance a bit more between those objects? It still looks a bit insufficient, even with the current hyper.
  10. 04:14:239 (7,8) - I can understand you prefer to avoid making a full dashed pattern on these kind of sections, though in order to make it easier to read and perform, I'd recommend you to move (7) a bit more to the left. That way the connection to the next pattern would be a more clear stop&go. Same would go for the following mirrored pattern 04:14:824 (7,8) - .
  11. 04:26:678 (1,2,3) - Not sure if it's necessary to have a combination 1/4-1/2 hyper in that section. You've been following the vocals in this part, though you only should try to remark the guitar sound on 04:27:117 - . Since the jump 04:26:678 (1,2) - doesn't represent anything that relevant, the hyperdash can be removed.
  12. 05:03:776 (2) - To be honest, I expected to see that slider a bit more tilted than it is now. It's probably the only flow-breaker in this interesting section, and could be improved by introducing a slight curve similar to this one https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10046538 . Please notice that I moved the beginning of the next slider (3) more to the right to keep an appropriated distance with the changed slider.
  13. 08:13:754 (4) - A similar case to the 1st kiai, a more curvy shape would help with the performance.
[]
That should do it. I'm more than happy to give a recheck after you answered my mod!
Topic Starter
Kyuare

Deif wrote:

RIP Madness... forever in our heart... :(

[General]
  1. Combo colours: The dark ones you used are too dark and blend with the background picture. The following 4 colors or a similar combination would be enough to fit better with your current background.

    [Colours]
    Combo1 : 255,91,91
    Combo2 : 255,240,222
    Combo3 : 255,164,60
    Combo4 : 255,176,170
    looks nice
[Orphestra]
  1. 00:30:180 (7) - Please introduce a break manually in there. The pause is around 3 seconds long and there's a big drain drop because of that (gets around 50% having a FC previously). sure
  2. 02:17:166 (4,5) - That 1/4 hyper isn't really that necessary as the melody doesn't have anything relevant to remark. Try to move the end of the slider (4) closer to the next circle to remove the hyper. alright
  3. 02:36:629 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Having two of those wiggle patterns after the stop&go at 02:36:190 (3,4) - makes it quite easy to miss in this section. Try to cluster those notes 02:36:629 (1,2,3,4) - 02:37:215 (1,2,3,4) - a bit more or create more flow-friendly patterns instead. nerferd from 1.30x to 1.15x
  4. 02:38:971 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Those back-and-forth patterns are more typical of lower BPM songs (until 150-160 I'd say). It'd be more appropriated at this speed if those were more vertical instead. I already nerfed them before, I really want to keep this pattern because I find it fit really well with the song: the singer also sing really fast here.
  5. 03:00:044 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Try to make the shapes more curvy by moving (3) a bit more to the left and (6) a bit more to the right? did it only for (1,2,3,4) for more contrast
  6. 03:17:020 (1,2,3,4,5) - Those notes sound more accurate as 1/6s rather than 1/4s, as you've been following mainly the guitar in this section. The combination afterwards from 03:17:605 - on of mapping to the drums and including hypers over the guitar looks okay as it is. remapped in 1/6s
  7. 03:46:873 (1,2,3,4) - Would it be possible to get the (1) and (3) objects a bit away from the left edge of the screen? It's quite easy to hit the wall with those consecutive hypers. sure
  8. 04:01:508 (3,4) - Hm, a new idea could've been used to match the different guitar tone used at this jump. Maybe something like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10046407 did something similar
  9. 04:06:483 (7,1) - Could it be possible to increase the distance a bit more between those objects? It still looks a bit insufficient, even with the current hyper. fixed thanks to the previous change
  10. 04:14:239 (7,8) - I can understand you prefer to avoid making a full dashed pattern on these kind of sections, though in order to make it easier to read and perform, I'd recommend you to move (7) a bit more to the left. That way the connection to the next pattern would be a more clear stop&go. Same would go for the following mirrored pattern 04:14:824 (7,8) - . nerfed from 0.70x to 0.40x
  11. 04:26:678 (1,2,3) - Not sure if it's necessary to have a combination 1/4-1/2 hyper in that section. You've been following the vocals in this part, though you only should try to remark the guitar sound on 04:27:117 - . Since the jump 04:26:678 (1,2) - doesn't represent anything that relevant, the hyperdash can be removed. Since Hareimu also pointed it before, I will fix it (will need small remap). Also did it for the first section.
  12. 05:03:776 (2) - To be honest, I expected to see that slider a bit more tilted than it is now. It's probably the only flow-breaker in this interesting section, and could be improved by introducing a slight curve similar to this one https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10046538 . Please notice that I moved the beginning of the next slider (3) more to the right to keep an appropriated distance with the changed slider.
  13. 08:13:754 (4) - A similar case to the 1st kiai, a more curvy shape would help with the performance. I prefer to keep sharp shape for this final kiai because it's way more intense than the previous one
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That should do it. I'm more than happy to give a recheck after you answered my mod!
Thank you very much ! :)
Deif
I'm more than happy to see how your beatmap improved through this time and it deserves to be pushed forward. Congratulations!

Bubbled!
Xinnoh
05:57:950 (2) - 06:07:550 (2) - aren't these 1/6 snap
Ascendance

Sinnoh wrote:

05:57:950 (2) - 06:07:550 (2) - aren't these 1/6 snap
I used 1/2 for mine and it sounds okay to me but then again my map got DQ'd for snapping so

Edit: @Kyuare what is an ophestra the word doesnt even exist i think lol
Topic Starter
Kyuare

Ascendance wrote:

Sinnoh wrote:

05:57:950 (2) - 06:07:550 (2) - aren't these 1/6 snap Will use 1/2 for the first one like Ascendance did so we're sure there is no problem. But the second one is indeed wrong: I will use a 1/1 slider instead of a repeat to follow the voice, thank you !
Edit: Talked with Ascendance and Hareimu, will use 1/2 for both.
I used 1/2 for mine and it sounds okay to me but then again my map got DQ'd for snapping so

Edit: @Kyuare what is an ophestra the word doesnt even exist i think lol
It's a name, Aqliva and me found it here: https://mirrorofparanoia.com/2012/03/18 ... decadence/ :D
Ascendance
2018-01-20 17:54 Kyuare: hey
2018-01-20 17:54 Ascendance: hihi
2018-01-20 17:54 Ascendance: gimme like 2 minutes
2018-01-20 17:54 Kyuare: do you have some time to check a snap on my uta please ? :o
2018-01-20 17:55 Ascendance: sure sure
2018-01-20 17:55 Kyuare: sure
2018-01-20 17:55 Kyuare: :D
2018-01-20 17:57 Ascendance: kk hi
2018-01-20 17:57 Kyuare: yes
2018-01-20 17:58 Kyuare: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1514618 Imperial Circus Dead Decadence - Uta [Ophestra]]
2018-01-20 17:58 Ascendance: i still dont know what ophestra means lol
2018-01-20 17:58 Kyuare: 05:57:950 (2) - 06:07:550 (2) - Sinnoh ask if they are 1/6 or not
2018-01-20 17:58 Ascendance: i dont think the word exists
2018-01-20 17:58 Kyuare: it's on the lyrics Xd
2018-01-20 18:00 Ascendance: uh the snapping is pretty weird
2018-01-20 18:00 Ascendance: it sounds closer to 1/6
2018-01-20 18:00 Ascendance: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1417907 Imperial Circus Dead Decadence - Uta [Requiem]]
2018-01-20 18:00 Ascendance: 05:57:950 (4,5,6) - to avoid it i just kept the 1/2 here
2018-01-20 18:00 Ascendance: same with 06:07:550 (2) - on my diff
2018-01-20 18:00 Kyuare: i see
2018-01-20 18:01 Ascendance: 03:16:142 (1,2,3) - this was pretty weird to me also
2018-01-20 18:02 Ascendance: i think it can be much easier simplified as 1/4
2018-01-20 18:02 Ascendance: sounds better to me that way
2018-01-20 18:02 Ascendance: and you could probably add a note at 03:16:800 - since there's a sound
2018-01-20 18:03 Kyuare: o i don't hear any sound lol
2018-01-20 18:03 Ascendance: i listened at 25 maybe im noob
2018-01-20 18:03 Ascendance: feels like a pitch change there
2018-01-20 18:04 Kyuare: oh now that you mention it maybe yeah, a really small one
2018-01-20 18:04 Ascendance: it feels better than a break so maybe you could, up to you!
2018-01-20 18:05 Ascendance: i can take a look for more snaps after my tournament match if you still need help
2018-01-20 18:05 Ascendance: the snapping was what caused the DQ for me so I don't want you to have one too xD
2018-01-20 18:06 Kyuare: yeah thank you ♥
2018-01-20 18:06 Ascendance: hopefully people don't compare ours and cause drama
2018-01-20 18:06 Ascendance: i really admire your work a lot <:
2018-01-20 18:08 Kyuare: yeah maybe i can put a message about it in the beatmap page
2018-01-20 18:08 Kyuare: I already know people like badis etc will do it...
2018-01-20 18:10 Kyuare: good luck for your match :>
2018-01-20 18:10 Ascendance: <3 thanks
2018-01-20 18:56 Kyuare: Alright I asked Mir he confirmed me that 05:57:950 (2) - sounds right in 1/4, but not sure about 06:07:550 (2) - so I used a 1/1 slider
2018-01-20 19:43 Kyuare: just small question, does deif's bubble still count now that i fixed the snap issue ?
2018-01-20 19:43 Ascendance: nop
2018-01-20 19:44 Ascendance: snap issues are gameplay related so it'll need a rebub
2018-01-20 19:44 Ascendance: not a big deal though
2018-01-20 19:44 Ascendance: gimme like 5 minutes to use br and grab a drink and ill go back to your map
2018-01-20 19:44 Kyuare: sure (it's almost 2am so i need to sleep soon) xD
2018-01-20 19:45 Ascendance: oh sorry ill go quick
2018-01-20 19:45 Kyuare: kk
2018-01-20 19:48 Ascendance: if you want to sleep i can post on thread
2018-01-20 19:48 Ascendance: i dont mind
2018-01-20 19:48 Kyuare: nah don't worry let's do it now :D
2018-01-20 19:49 Ascendance: 03:53:020 (4,5,6) - not really a snap thing but i found this pretty uncomfortable to play
2018-01-20 19:50 Ascendance: flowstop in a pretty intense section
2018-01-20 19:51 Kyuare: well it's what i wanted to do... q.q I do like it personally
2018-01-20 19:51 Ascendance: not a big deal, just my personal thoughts <:
2018-01-20 19:53 Ascendance: 05:57:950 (2,3,4) - i actually still think this sounds better as 1/2
2018-01-20 19:56 Ascendance: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1417907 Imperial Circus Dead Decadence - Uta [Requiem]]
2018-01-20 19:56 Ascendance: 06:08:000 -
2018-01-20 19:57 Ascendance: mine sounds better to me because it's simpler instead of following the weird snaps so im not sure
2018-01-20 19:58 Kyuare: yeah i think it sound better, i will use 1/2
2018-01-20 19:59 Ascendance: personal thing but 06:08:999 (6) - maybe remove the clap and replace with finish
2018-01-20 19:59 Ascendance: sounds better to me
2018-01-20 20:00 Kyuare: sure
2018-01-20 20:01 Ascendance: 06:46:902 (1) - in my diff i used a 3/4 repeat here
2018-01-20 20:01 Ascendance: and then i would have another 3/4 repeat at 06:47:560 -
2018-01-20 20:01 Ascendance: up to you
2018-01-20 20:02 Kyuare: prefer mine for this one :3
2018-01-20 20:03 Ascendance: even though theres stuff here at 07:33:502 (5,6,7,8,9) - , maybe i'd consider keeping it simple to be consistent with the rest
2018-01-20 20:06 Kyuare: uum i really like this one so i will keep it as it is
2018-01-20 20:06 Ascendance: hm ok
2018-01-20 20:06 Ascendance: 07:51:583 - don't wanna map the stream?
2018-01-20 20:07 Kyuare: small reference to the Madness diff \:D/
2018-01-20 20:08 Ascendance: 08:04:169 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) -
2018-01-20 20:08 Ascendance: these should be 1/4 snap
2018-01-20 20:08 Ascendance: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10059801
2018-01-20 20:09 Kyuare: It was 1/4 before but a lot of people mentionned it because it didn't follow the song correctly
2018-01-20 20:09 Ascendance: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1417907 Imperial Circus Dead Decadence - Uta [Requiem]]
2018-01-20 20:09 Ascendance: 08:04:169 -
2018-01-20 20:09 Ascendance: the 1/4 seems more accurate to me tbh
2018-01-20 20:10 Kyuare: let's ask Hareimu
2018-01-20 20:11 Ascendance: 08:46:900 (1,2,3,4) - the ending seems to be 1/4 also
2018-01-20 20:11 Ascendance: nvm
2018-01-20 20:11 Ascendance: ending is correct
2018-01-20 20:14 Kyuare: alright Hareimu confirmed me that 1/6 is correct for 08:04:169 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) -
2018-01-20 20:22 Ascendance: he and i dont seem to agree
2018-01-20 20:22 Ascendance: i think the sounds are much closer to 1/8 than 1/6 and should then be simplified to 1/4 because of it
2018-01-20 20:23 Kyuare: hum
2018-01-20 20:23 Ascendance: i have to go for now but i'll post our logs on the thread in a bit
2018-01-20 20:23 Ascendance: and maybe ask more people for their thoughts
2018-01-20 20:25 Kyuare: alright

Need more opinions on 08:04:169 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - imo, it sounds like 1/4 to me, since the sounds feel closer to 1/8 than 1/6 and thus can be simplified easier to 1/4.
Topic Starter
Kyuare

Ascendance wrote:

2018-01-20 17:54 Kyuare: hey
2018-01-20 17:54 Ascendance: hihi
2018-01-20 17:54 Ascendance: gimme like 2 minutes
2018-01-20 17:54 Kyuare: do you have some time to check a snap on my uta please ? :o
2018-01-20 17:55 Ascendance: sure sure
2018-01-20 17:55 Kyuare: sure
2018-01-20 17:55 Kyuare: :D
2018-01-20 17:57 Ascendance: kk hi
2018-01-20 17:57 Kyuare: yes
2018-01-20 17:58 Kyuare: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1514618 Imperial Circus Dead Decadence - Uta [Ophestra]]
2018-01-20 17:58 Ascendance: i still dont know what ophestra means lol
2018-01-20 17:58 Kyuare: 05:57:950 (2) - 06:07:550 (2) - Sinnoh ask if they are 1/6 or not
2018-01-20 17:58 Ascendance: i dont think the word exists
2018-01-20 17:58 Kyuare: it's on the lyrics Xd
2018-01-20 18:00 Ascendance: uh the snapping is pretty weird
2018-01-20 18:00 Ascendance: it sounds closer to 1/6
2018-01-20 18:00 Ascendance: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1417907 Imperial Circus Dead Decadence - Uta [Requiem]]
2018-01-20 18:00 Ascendance: 05:57:950 (4,5,6) - to avoid it i just kept the 1/2 here
2018-01-20 18:00 Ascendance: same with 06:07:550 (2) - on my diff
2018-01-20 18:00 Kyuare: i see
2018-01-20 18:01 Ascendance: 03:16:142 (1,2,3) - this was pretty weird to me also
2018-01-20 18:02 Ascendance: i think it can be much easier simplified as 1/4
2018-01-20 18:02 Ascendance: sounds better to me that way
2018-01-20 18:02 Ascendance: and you could probably add a note at 03:16:800 - since there's a sound
2018-01-20 18:03 Kyuare: o i don't hear any sound lol
2018-01-20 18:03 Ascendance: i listened at 25 maybe im noob
2018-01-20 18:03 Ascendance: feels like a pitch change there
2018-01-20 18:04 Kyuare: oh now that you mention it maybe yeah, a really small one
2018-01-20 18:04 Ascendance: it feels better than a break so maybe you could, up to you!
2018-01-20 18:05 Ascendance: i can take a look for more snaps after my tournament match if you still need help
2018-01-20 18:05 Ascendance: the snapping was what caused the DQ for me so I don't want you to have one too xD
2018-01-20 18:06 Kyuare: yeah thank you ♥
2018-01-20 18:06 Ascendance: hopefully people don't compare ours and cause drama
2018-01-20 18:06 Ascendance: i really admire your work a lot <:
2018-01-20 18:08 Kyuare: yeah maybe i can put a message about it in the beatmap page
2018-01-20 18:08 Kyuare: I already know people like badis etc will do it...
2018-01-20 18:10 Kyuare: good luck for your match :>
2018-01-20 18:10 Ascendance: <3 thanks
2018-01-20 18:56 Kyuare: Alright I asked Mir he confirmed me that 05:57:950 (2) - sounds right in 1/4, but not sure about 06:07:550 (2) - so I used a 1/1 slider
2018-01-20 19:43 Kyuare: just small question, does deif's bubble still count now that i fixed the snap issue ?
2018-01-20 19:43 Ascendance: nop
2018-01-20 19:44 Ascendance: snap issues are gameplay related so it'll need a rebub
2018-01-20 19:44 Ascendance: not a big deal though
2018-01-20 19:44 Ascendance: gimme like 5 minutes to use br and grab a drink and ill go back to your map
2018-01-20 19:44 Kyuare: sure (it's almost 2am so i need to sleep soon) xD
2018-01-20 19:45 Ascendance: oh sorry ill go quick
2018-01-20 19:45 Kyuare: kk
2018-01-20 19:48 Ascendance: if you want to sleep i can post on thread
2018-01-20 19:48 Ascendance: i dont mind
2018-01-20 19:48 Kyuare: nah don't worry let's do it now :D
2018-01-20 19:49 Ascendance: 03:53:020 (4,5,6) - not really a snap thing but i found this pretty uncomfortable to play
2018-01-20 19:50 Ascendance: flowstop in a pretty intense section
2018-01-20 19:51 Kyuare: well it's what i wanted to do... q.q I do like it personally
2018-01-20 19:51 Ascendance: not a big deal, just my personal thoughts <:
2018-01-20 19:53 Ascendance: 05:57:950 (2,3,4) - i actually still think this sounds better as 1/2
2018-01-20 19:56 Ascendance: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1417907 Imperial Circus Dead Decadence - Uta [Requiem]]
2018-01-20 19:56 Ascendance: 06:08:000 -
2018-01-20 19:57 Ascendance: mine sounds better to me because it's simpler instead of following the weird snaps so im not sure
2018-01-20 19:58 Kyuare: yeah i think it sound better, i will use 1/2
2018-01-20 19:59 Ascendance: personal thing but 06:08:999 (6) - maybe remove the clap and replace with finish
2018-01-20 19:59 Ascendance: sounds better to me
2018-01-20 20:00 Kyuare: sure
2018-01-20 20:01 Ascendance: 06:46:902 (1) - in my diff i used a 3/4 repeat here
2018-01-20 20:01 Ascendance: and then i would have another 3/4 repeat at 06:47:560 -
2018-01-20 20:01 Ascendance: up to you
2018-01-20 20:02 Kyuare: prefer mine for this one :3
2018-01-20 20:03 Ascendance: even though theres stuff here at 07:33:502 (5,6,7,8,9) - , maybe i'd consider keeping it simple to be consistent with the rest
2018-01-20 20:06 Kyuare: uum i really like this one so i will keep it as it is
2018-01-20 20:06 Ascendance: hm ok
2018-01-20 20:06 Ascendance: 07:51:583 - don't wanna map the stream?
2018-01-20 20:07 Kyuare: small reference to the Madness diff \:D/
2018-01-20 20:08 Ascendance: 08:04:169 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) -
2018-01-20 20:08 Ascendance: these should be 1/4 snap
2018-01-20 20:08 Ascendance: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10059801
2018-01-20 20:09 Kyuare: It was 1/4 before but a lot of people mentionned it because it didn't follow the song correctly
2018-01-20 20:09 Ascendance: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1417907 Imperial Circus Dead Decadence - Uta [Requiem]]
2018-01-20 20:09 Ascendance: 08:04:169 -
2018-01-20 20:09 Ascendance: the 1/4 seems more accurate to me tbh
2018-01-20 20:10 Kyuare: let's ask Hareimu
2018-01-20 20:11 Ascendance: 08:46:900 (1,2,3,4) - the ending seems to be 1/4 also
2018-01-20 20:11 Ascendance: nvm
2018-01-20 20:11 Ascendance: ending is correct
2018-01-20 20:14 Kyuare: alright Hareimu confirmed me that 1/6 is correct for 08:04:169 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) -
2018-01-20 20:22 Ascendance: he and i dont seem to agree
2018-01-20 20:22 Ascendance: i think the sounds are much closer to 1/8 than 1/6 and should then be simplified to 1/4 because of it
2018-01-20 20:23 Kyuare: hum
2018-01-20 20:23 Ascendance: i have to go for now but i'll post our logs on the thread in a bit
2018-01-20 20:23 Ascendance: and maybe ask more people for their thoughts
2018-01-20 20:25 Kyuare: alright

Need more opinions on 08:04:169 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - imo, it sounds like 1/4 to me, since the sounds feel closer to 1/8 than 1/6 and thus can be simplified easier to 1/4.
Got confirmation from kin again he told me it was 1/6
Spectator
00:34:288 (5) - maybe you can remove claps here, feels kinda loud to me
01:11:166 (1) - move this to a bit left because the previous spinner ends on the left side
01:13:507 (1) - clap on reverse makes no sense and you didn't place it on 01:15:263 - as well so better remove it
01:31:068 (1,2,3,4) - Here's a suggestion, just like you did on 00:58:288 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - you can make the distances grow bigger and it fits with the song imo 8)
01:50:971 (1) - clap on tail
01:52:142 (1) - ^
02:18:483 (2,3,4) - A bit more of distances for streams here is recommended for the sake of flow. Ctrl+shift+S them and incread a bit
05:58:600 (7,8) - maybe reduce a bit? players shouldn't miss on the relaxing part after gaining 2000+ combo lol
07:45:144 (4,5) - This also is kinda easy to make a miss but it's up to you
08:21:291 (4,5,6) - dunno if this part needs that strong jump because the pitch isn't that high here, I'd recommned a normal dash here xd
08:37:974 (9,1) - expecting a hdash here
08:46:900 (1,2,3,4) - ah I prefer the previous one here lol its flow was better imo

great mapset, good luck!
Topic Starter
Kyuare

Spectator wrote:

00:34:288 (5) - maybe you can remove claps here, feels kinda loud to me
01:11:166 (1) - move this to a bit left because the previous spinner ends on the left side
01:13:507 (1) - clap on reverse makes no sense and you didn't place it on 01:15:263 - as well so better remove it
01:31:068 (1,2,3,4) - Here's a suggestion, just like you did on 00:58:288 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - you can make the distances grow bigger and it fits with the song imo 8) I don't think the song is more and more intense here, I prefer to keep same spacing to be sure
01:50:971 (1) - clap on tail
01:52:142 (1) - ^
02:18:483 (2,3,4) - A bit more of distances for streams here is recommended for the sake of flow. Ctrl+shift+S them and incread a bit
05:58:600 (7,8) - maybe reduce a bit? players shouldn't miss on the relaxing part after gaining 2000+ combo lol
07:45:144 (4,5) - This also is kinda easy to make a miss but it's up to you i prefer to keep this one sorry
08:21:291 (4,5,6) - dunno if this part needs that strong jump because the pitch isn't that high here, I'd recommned a normal dash here xd The beat is definitly strong enough since I used it before, and I prefer to keep HDash to introduce the following pattern
08:37:974 (9,1) - expecting a hdash here I don't think the beat is strong enough to deserve one
08:46:900 (1,2,3,4) - ah I prefer the previous one here lol its flow was better imo

great mapset, good luck!
no answer = fixed Thank you !
Deif
Sorted out those odd snaps and made some more small changes, so let's try again!

Sinnoh wrote:

05:57:950 (2) - 06:07:550 (2) - aren't these 1/6 snap
They sound better snapped on the current 1/2 beats, gotta agree with Ascendance here.

Ascendance wrote:

Need more opinions on 08:04:169 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - imo, it sounds like 1/4 to me, since the sounds feel closer to 1/8 than 1/6 and thus can be simplified easier to 1/4.
The vocals do follow a ternary rhythm and are well placed on those 1/3 snaps, so the most logical way to proceed is to emphasize those placing the slider tails on the previous 1/6 beats.
Hareimu
alright, revised some hitsounding and patterning decisions the mapper made and he gave convincing arguments as to why they were made and etcetcetc, so nothing much changed as to need for a rebubble (verified myself on the discord server with fellow bns)

I'm glad to take this map into qualified status myself, and I hope it'll last through without major issues.

Qualified!
Shurelia
YES
Kasumi-sama
FUCK YES
Dea ex machina
wow, congrats :D :D :D
Nelly
Kyuare you're a fricking blast
Yumeno Himiko
good
Nitsches
RAAAAAAAAAAANK HYYYPE !!
GG BRO FINALLY, i would say ! :D
Aller champagne.
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