Ayatsugu_Otowa - Chouetsu Shite Shimatta Kanojo to Sore o Um

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Renka

Volta wrote:

selamat pagi.

[General]
can you provide source of the metadata? i'm bad at that.
and i'd like to see more balance of the spread in lower diffs tho.



[chaica's Kantan]
01:03:062 - i assume you forgot to put finisher since you put one at 00:09:129 - ? - oh,fixed.
01:13:848 - change to K? ^ - ok.
01:16:208 - replace spinner with note. player will need the 4/1 break here instead of spin - Certainly yeah,change D.
01:37:781 - ^ - ^
01:50:421 - consider to delete this note so it will be more friendly for kantan player - yes
thank you for modding!

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Title:Chouetsu Shite Shimatta Kanojo to Sore o Umi Otoshita Riyuu
TitleUnicode:超越してしまった彼女と其を生み落した理由
Artist:Ayatsugu_Otowa
ArtistUnicode:Ayatsugu_Otowa
Creator:-[ Dumpling ]-
Version:chaica's Kantan
Source:SOUND VOLTEX II -infinite infection-
Tags:sdvx jubeat prop KAC2013 Original Song Contest TKS Julie chaica Senritsu
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TKS

Volta wrote:

selamat pagi.

[TK's Inner Oni]
this is cool!

00:55:674 - seems like this timing point is redundant since there is no notes until next green line - fixed.

00:04:242 (18,19,20,21,22,23) - just a different idea of mine, how about change to dkd-ddk, i think it's fits better to the structure - would like to keep this for the consistency of the kiai pattenr.
00:56:320 - shouldn't this moved to 00:56:404 - to make 4-plet like at 01:06:770 (484,485,486,487) - ? - 5plet fits the beat sound well, and to make a variety.
01:37:528 (729,730) - swap? somehow i think is better to end pattern with d. probably because it is similar to 01:04:747 (466,467,468,469,470,471,472) - fixed.

01:43:062 (790,791,792) - i'd say 1/8 is more correct snapping. but 1/6 is looks better visually so i'm fine with it. just want to make sure this is intended - yes it goes with 1/6.
01:45:028 (814,815,816) - interested to make 1/6? the melody support it. - the pattern should be kept as it is, i dont think 1/6 works perfectly.

hmm. that's it for now. i'll check it again.. needs to find rest spots in futsuu..
* changed OD to 7, OD6 was a bit low setting for around 180 bpm.
* 01:16:376 - removed some copypasta finishers because the melody goes to a bit different flow here.

sorry for the late, thanks for the mod!
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/263 ... Oni%5D.rar
Topic Starter
-[ Dumpling ]-

Volta wrote:

selamat pagi. selamat datang

[General]
can you provide source of the metadata? i'm bad at that. click this for info
and i'd like to see more balance of the spread in lower diffs tho. what's bad about it? give some suggestion pls. i don't see what's wrong with the spread? did some improvements I guess.

[Futsuu]
since the song rhythm is complex i highly suggest to give some more break that longer that 2/1. currently it lacks rest moments that essential for futsuu player. try to find some spot?

00:12:837 - until 00:34:410 - this section has huge gap with kantan. i'd suggest to kill some notes here, like 00:15:197 - , 00:15:702 - , 00:20:590 - , 00:21:095 - , 00:25:983 - , 00:26:489 - , 00:31:376 -, and 00:31:882 - , deleted some of these except 00:21:096 (42) - since this is a triple to match previous pattern even if it's triple same colour, and I wanna keep the same notes for next part.

- deleted notes of the same pattern starting from 00:13:511 (00:13:511, 00:16:208, 00:18:904), spread is essentially the same as muzukashii.
- cleaned part around 00:45:197 more
- idk what else? feel free to highlight suggestions if you mod again


[Oni]
i don't know if you intentionally make 666 objects, maybe i'll ruin it lol I never noticed this until now lol

01:36:433 - try to move the green line 1/4 beat to left, so if player hit the notes too early they still get the volume effect
01:36:095 - ^ nope, the point of this game in general is to hit the notes on time

00:09:129 - i'm thinking you can add finisher here because the sound is as stronger as 00:08:792 - and 00:09:466 - ok
01:03:062 - same as ^
01:13:848 - same as ^
01:35:421 - ^

00:41:489 - try to move this to 00:41:320 - and 00:41:657 - move this to 00:41:573 - ? it can follow the melody better yeah good catch, moved
00:36:854 - add d? compare with 00:42:247 - it leads to similar finishers streak suggestion is not bad but I wanna avoid overmapping this part.

00:46:376 - i felt the pause here is very awkward. 00:46:713 - how about move this to 00:46:376 - moved but I changed it to kat.
00:45:365 (70,71) - consider delete these notes for better spread with muzukashii ok
00:48:062 (86,87) - ^
00:49:663 (95,96) - ^

01:20:084 - consider to delete this to make same break pattern with 01:18:736 - ? nope, i have a note every second cluster of the same pattern to avoid the repetition.
01:22:781 - ^
01:25:477 - ^
01:26:826 - ^

01:39:635 (23,24,25,26) - change to d-kdk? it can reflect higher pitch at 01:39:972 - better I try it
01:42:837 - piano is paused here, try to move this to 01:41:994 - ? ok

hmm. that's it for now. i'll check it again.. needs to find rest spots in futsuu.. kk
thank you for modding.

All diffs updated until now ~
Volta
no kds.

[Futsuu]
spread looks better but it needs some longer rest moment. need to give it once in a while

00:55:309 (122,123) - these notes can be deleted (or just 122). the previous rhythm might be too complex for futsuu player, can be awkward for them to switch from 3/2 beat to 1/1 beat and there is barely any rest to compensate
01:17:219 - consider to delete this for a longer rest after kiai

00:12:500 - i think this can be deleted too for longer break instead of a bunch of 2/1 break every 2 notes
00:14:522 - and can fill this with note instead.
00:17:219 - ^
00:19:916 - ^
00:22:612 - ^
00:25:309 - , 00:28:006 - , 00:30:702 - ^

other diffs are fine to me.
Topic Starter
-[ Dumpling ]-

Volta wrote:

no kds.

[Futsuu]
spread looks better but it needs some longer rest moment. need to give it once in a while

00:55:309 (122,123) - these notes can be deleted (or just 122). the previous rhythm might be too complex for futsuu player, can be awkward for them to switch from 3/2 beat to 1/1 beat and there is barely any rest to compensate deleted both
01:17:219 - consider to delete this for a longer rest after kiai ok

00:12:500 - i think this can be deleted too for longer break instead of a bunch of 2/1 break every 2 notes see below
00:14:522 - and can fill this with note instead. changed but I will update this when I have some spare time
00:17:219 - ^ i did this one a bit differently since there is no note here in Muzu.
00:19:916 - ^
00:22:612 - ^ same deal as 00:17:219 -
00:25:309 - , 00:28:006 - mhm , 00:30:702 - ^

other diffs are fine to me.
Topic Starter
-[ Dumpling ]-
all is updated now~ + Futsuu should be less dense, idk about parts such as after the first kiai because the sounds there seem essential to map even for a basic diff (unless you can suggest something better of course).
Volta
consider to remove beginner diff?
Topic Starter
-[ Dumpling ]-

Volta wrote:

consider to remove beginner diff?
considering how much time we have spent on this I rather rank it with beginner diff.
Volta
edit: oops, pls fix slider velocity in Muzu to 1.4 in notepad
Topic Starter
-[ Dumpling ]-
fixed for Senritsu baka qwq
Volta
ok,

Bubbled!
cdhsausageboy
HYPE
Senritsu

cdhsausageboy wrote:

HYPE
Topic Starter
-[ Dumpling ]-

Senritsu wrote:

cdhsausageboy wrote:

HYPE
Nwolf
that beginner diff... *sigh*
Topic Starter
-[ Dumpling ]-

Ntiger wrote:

that beginner diff... *sigh*
tell me what's wrong with it? imo it's good for the spread. reply below
Nwolf
discord "log"

Nwerewolf - Yesterday at 3:38 PM
I don't get the purpose of a map that uses 2/1 and 4/1 only(edited)
when the Kantan is already that

it doesn't help spread as it's the lowest diff as well
otherwise the only complain I have about the set is that the beginning does not have kiai activated
-[ Dumpling ]- - Yesterday at 10:09 PM
I'll enable it when I have time then
Nwerewolf - Yesterday at 10:13 PM
ask GDers too
Topic Starter
-[ Dumpling ]-
sorry to nitpick I guess but there's some things I disagree here.

Ntiger wrote:

I don't get the purpose of a map that uses 2/1 and 4/1 only(edited)
when the Kantan is already that
have a ranked example of that. (i'm not looking at star difficulty at this point really since it means nothing to me in this case, as long as Beginner is represented as being easier than Kantan, i'm good with that.)

Ntiger wrote:

it doesn't help spread as it's the lowest diff as well
actually, I think the Beginner fits the role of a Kantan from other taiko mapsets that have more basic rhythms for a song (example: upbeat anime OP/ED with a singer's voice that is easily mapped to), compared to this song out of an actual rhythm game that has much more of a complex melody and rhythm to it. think of the Kantan as a Kantan+, only in this day and age we're obviously not going to use those diff names here.

Ntiger wrote:

otherwise the only complain I have about the set is that the beginning does not have kiai activated
I'll enable it when I have time then non-issue for me but see what mappers say.
Nwolf
the beginning of the song is exactly the same as 00:55:983 - just that it's shorter.


also I don't get why TKS' diff is OD7 and the Oni is OD5.5, either make Oni OD6 or reduce TKS' OD to OD6.5 since the song is only 178 BPM and you have to suck a lot to get note lock on 1/8 triplets.
Topic Starter
-[ Dumpling ]-

Ntiger wrote:

the beginning of the song is exactly the same as 00:55:983 - just that it's shorter.


also I don't get why TKS' diff is OD7 and the Oni is OD5.5, either make Oni OD6 or reduce TKS' OD to OD6.5 since the song is only 178 BPM and you have to suck a lot to get note lock on 1/8 triplets.
about kiai - I don't think we are going to change it. I see what you think, but adding kiai at the start of the song somewhat implies that the start should be as intense as the part at 00:55:983 -, which shouldn't be the case (even if you say my diffs are identical at those parts, the lack of kiai is by design as a consistency with other diffs thing).

about OD - changed to 6 for Oni, that was my bad, didn't notice that Inner Oni had OD bumped up to 7.
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