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[Disqualify] nora2r - B.B.K.K.B.K.K. (Extended Mix)

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OnosakiHito
osu!taiko Paragon
6,842 posts
Joined March 2010
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OnosakiHito
Taking neutral side here and giving people the opportunity to talk and give opinions about the map because there is a lot of disagreement about the part 02:16:034 to 02:20:269. Same has been mentioned in the comment section of DISQUS: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/368336#comment-2626865256

Additionally, the thread should be reopened again since closing a qualified beatmap goes against the purpose of the qualified state! But I will leave that to the QATs.

It should be also mentioned that mapper didn't gave any reason why he doesn't want to take the suggestion by modder, even going so far to become emotional for -to me- unkwnown reason.

Action has to be taken quickly.
Kamikaze
2,898 posts
Joined November 2012
Kamikaze
Thread is closed because of shitstorm that was happening there.
As to the map itself: bugs are not limitations and should not hinder rankability of maps.
Scratches are used correctly and all it needs to work ideally is fix of dual special key input (aka controller input) so the two special key bindings do not block eachother
LordRaika
Elite Mapper
1,438 posts
Joined September 2013
LordRaika
ok so the conclusion... to QATS and all people that being there...

  1. First.. i can understand, what the mappers "MAP" is technically correct
    nothings wrong with it,..... in fact, it has good point that its special sound and only exist on scratch...
    so the mapper insist on keeping it because the mapper cant change the pattern or even make some variation on it. (its limited to 1 column)


  • BUT there is two more things.... to be consider by any means!!
  1. 1st) Playability...
    the value of a beatmap drop drastically when a player cant enjoy the pattern they are playing or even FC it...
    even a high rank player mention that "ITS HARD" , jacking with pinky (every 88ms) is certainly not an easy things.
     
    this pattern is also hard to be read as it require skill of reading "anchor point" pattern... mistimed it and
    player will hit the rest of the note with bad acc.
     
    this should be really really be consider for the change... for the sake of lots mania player.
     
  2. 2nd) Its 1/4 on scratch, no other column, no more variation to change this?
    "but... there is actually 1 more way to emphasize this AND STILL make it comfortable to be play"
     
    like... change the whole 1/4 into Long Note and USE 1/8 stutter SV effect on it and then 02:20:269 - add a speeding SV here
    and slow it back down for effect that fits on what the mapper want to map and emphasize WHILE make sure its comfortable.
     
     
    or like the other people that share their thoughts, other pattern or change this will make the map really good....
    but im sure the mapper want to keep it on scratch column.... so i suggest this SV as solution

thats it, QATs can decide...
but yes, there is a room for improvement...
and UNDENiABLE FACT... that players hardly can enjoy it.

hope this solves it.
Loctav
Popcorn Fairy
4,496 posts
Joined February 2009
Loctav
You don't need QATs for anything. Stop relying on them, ffs.

A bug in the game engine won't make the map self unrankable, since the map self is not bugged.

I don't even know why this is turned into a problem.
Blocko
osu! Alumni
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Joined February 2014
Blocko
Thread unlocked. Apologies on the delay!

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