Pain - Jabberjaw

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Topic Starter
ezek
Updated~
riffy
tfw when the name of the artist sums up your entire life

[General]
  1. The video itself suggests different metadata, which is pretty weird. Yet, it could be just stylization. link plus, the bandcamp suggests it to be Jabberjaw as well. bc gets higher priority than a cd, I believe. After all, CDs are published by lables and can have altered metadata. Besides, this exists
    I guess the final result should be: Pain - Jabberjaw
  2. 01:04:860 - timing seems a bit off at this part, just a reminder for you to check it.


[Moody's Easy]
  1. Just to get beginner friendlier you really should consider OD2. Timing is quite variable here, after all.
  2. 00:10:318 (4,1) - minor -how about aligning them to form a perfect arc? like this, I guess
  3. 00:17:238 (3,4) - I think it would work better if (3) was a repeated slider. And then there were two circles snapped to 1/1 as this would represent vocals more precisely. example
    Note: if you wanna keep it, move (4) lower so that the sliderpath would still be visible to players? I think it's quite important for beginners to see the sliderpath clearly and (3) kind of complicates reading. example. Something similar in terms of readability happens here. 00:59:646 (2,3) -
  4. 01:12:288 (4,1) - beong the only stack in the whole difficulty it feels pretty confusing. Unstack, perhaps?

    Great job!


[Polka's Normal]
  1. I think it should be using slider tick rate 1 as the rhythm is mostly 1/1 and 1/2s are just additional beats.
  2. 00:15:326 (4,1) - is there a need to use x1.2 DS here? Feels more like unintentional mistake, if you ask me.
    Note: 00:12:656 (4,5) - same here and you could check AiMod to see if happens anywhere else. Take it easy wit hthe spacing, it's a Notmal, after all!

    I absolutely loive it. Apart from the spacing stuff there is nothing to mention.


[Polkazek's Advanced]

  • Polka
  1. 00:24:432 - 00:24:628 - the instruments peak here, I thing they deserve some emphasis, like a double snapped to 1/2. example
  2. 00:51:119 (5,7) - there is some kind of guitar/drum roll sound. Hence,. I'd really love to turn these two circles into 1/2 sliders. this would work a lot better with the music, I believe.


ezek
  1. 01:02:355 (2,3) - minor - how about making it parallel with (5)? Wouldn't it flow slightly better? example
    Note: 01:18:825 (1,3) - something simalr happens here.
  2. 01:24:244 (7,1,2) - os there any way we could make the spacing change less sudden? perhaps use higher Ds for the slower part?


Just a couple of minor things. I love it.

[Hard]
  1. 00:02:420 (3,1) - isn't x2,0 a bit too agressive for the introductory part? Besides, Advanced wasn't using practically any jumps, hence, just throwing x2.0 right away feels a bit too aggressive.
    Note: 00:05:599 (3,1) - this will require some change as well, I presume.
  2. 00:09:149 - perhaps you could start a 1/2 slider here instead of just having a reverse. This way the drums will be stressed better and we'd be able to take the circle off 00:09:344 (6) - which is a very weak beat.
  3. 00:14:236 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - are you sure it is okay? Advanced had no 1/4s at all. Perhaps you could replace at least the first stream with a slider, so that players could feel the rhythm and adapt to 1/4s?
    Note: then do the same with 01:05:036 (1,2,3,4,5) - for consistency?
  4. 00:44:667 (4,1) - minor - spacing is a bit off here. Not too off to actually feel weird but off enough to be noticeable.
  5. 01:25:792 (1) - 01:27:341 (1) - these two are excessive. Just two new combos for the low density part would be enough. Having 4 feels a bit spam-like.

    Fun and neat. Could use a bit of work with 1/4s and perhaps just a tiny bit more of polishing, but it's still impressive.


[Insane]
  1. Consider using lower spacing less jumps for the intro? Hence, the parts that that are actually intense will feel a lot harder and the contrast is exactly what we need here.
  2. 00:25:407 (2) - minor - there is no actual need for it to be slower than the other two sliders in this combo. Consider using a plain straight shape?
  3. 00:32:360 (7) - a simple Ctrl+G would stress the following (1) better and give an interesting increasing DS flow.
  4. 01:10:942 (7,1) - is there any way to give this beat a bigger jump? This is a downbeat supported by both vocals and music, it should stand out.
    Note: happens a couple more times, 00:57:119 (6,1) - like here or 00:57:119 (6,1,8,1) - here.
  5. 01:25:792 (1) - 01:27:341 (1) - Just two new combos for the low density part would be enough. Having 4 feels a bit spam-like.

    Fun and challenging. A bit of jump emphasis was missing here and there, but I loved it nonetheless.


[Atsuro Gets No Respect]
  1. 00:10:708 (8,1) - I understand that it was intended to be a blanket but I'd rather move (1) farther apart so that the dynamic/tempo of the map doesn't get a sudden slowdown for no reason.
  2. 00:40:667 (2,3) - since (3) has a clap sound it could use a more intense jump, so that the clap would get enough emphasis.
    Note: 00:45:428 (4) - same. 00:46:000 (7,8) - same here. 00:54:971 (3,4) - and this can be easily misread as 1/4 after the previous very intnese patterns. Same 01:00:420 (1,2) - here.
  3. 00:42:572 - are you sure about leaving this beat ignored? Feels quite empty. Why not add a circle?
  4. 01:26:566 (3) - in case ezek applies the comboing suggestion you might want to place a new combo here as well for consistency purposes and a HP increase to support players.
  5. 01:36:013 (4,1,2,3) - consider stacking/moving farther apart to prevent misreading?

    Fun. A bit confusing at times, but fun.


Good job. Could use some more mods to fix minor flaws, but it definitely should be ranked!

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Best of luck!
Topic Starter
ezek
Not mentioned = applied/fixed

Bakari wrote:

[Polkazek's Advancedl]
  1. Note: 01:18:825 (1,3) - something simalr happens here. I feel it fine here~


[Hard]
  1. 00:02:420 (3,1) - isn't x2,0 a bit too agressive for the introductory part? Besides, Advanced wasn't using practically any jumps, hence, just throwing x2.0 right away feels a bit too aggressive. I thought that at first, but it's not that hard when I play it + is 1/1 and I think is a good emphasis for the vocals~
  2. 01:25:792 (1) - 01:27:341 (1) - these two are excessive. Just two new combos for the low density part would be enough. Having 4 feels a bit spam-like. I'm using this as a way to emphasize this every beat individually bc they're super strong


[Insane]
  1. 00:25:407 (2) - minor - there is no actual need for it to be slower than the other two sliders in this combo. Consider using a plain straight shape? this isn't to make the slider feel slower, if you play this at 25% you'll notice that there's a sound at the 1/4 beat in the middle, and that's what I'm trying to represent with that shape, but is also because I like it ;P
  2. 01:10:942 (7,1) - is there any way to give this beat a bigger jump? This is a downbeat supported by both vocals and music, it should stand out. I didn't find a way to do it without ruining the pattern, but I also realized that since there's a triple 1/4 it should help making it feel harder~
  3. 01:25:792 (1) - 01:27:341 (1) - Just two new combos for the low density part would be enough. Having 4 feels a bit spam-like. same as in hard
Thanks Mr. Bakarino! \:D/

Updated~
Hobbes2
Atsuro, can you make your diff AR 9? It's rather dense for 8.8 so it's kinda confusing. Also with all patterns with no sliders in them at all this map is super hard to pass with HP 7 lol. Fun map though.
MoodyRPG
Thanks Bakari :), fixed all

http://puu.sh/teRiT/4161c406c1.osu
Topic Starter
ezek
updated~
polka

Bakari wrote:

tfw when the name of the artist sums up your entire life
[Polka's Normal]
  1. I think it should be using slider tick rate 1 as the rhythm is mostly 1/1 and 1/2s are just additional beats. :arrow:I disagree. I think the tick rate does a great job at catching the tons of 1/2 beats that are unmapped due to the note density.
  2. 00:15:326 (4,1) - is there a need to use x1.2 DS here? Feels more like unintentional mistake, if you ask me. :arrow:oops
    Note: 00:12:656 (4,5) - same here and you could check AiMod to see if happens anywhere else. Take it easy wit hthe spacing, it's a Notmal, after all! :arrow:Think we're good now.

    I absolutely loive it. Apart from the spacing stuff there is nothing to mention. :arrow:\8D/


[Polkazek's Advanced]

  • Polka
  1. 00:24:432 - 00:24:628 - the instruments peak here, I thing they deserve some emphasis, like a double snapped to 1/2. example :arrow:They are going to vocals, so I think it's fine.
  2. 00:51:119 (5,7) - there is some kind of guitar/drum roll sound. Hence,. I'd really love to turn these two circles into 1/2 sliders. this would work a lot better with the music, I believe. :arrow:I like the way it captures the hard drum beats and it would ruin my pretty circles lmao. Sorry.
osu file format v14

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Topic Starter
ezek
Updated~
Atsuro

Bakari wrote:

[Atsuro Gets No Respect]
  1. 00:10:708 (8,1) - I understand that it was intended to be a blanket but I'd rather move (1) farther apart so that the dynamic/tempo of the map doesn't get a sudden slowdown for no reason. I don't really see a problem, it's a 1/4 gap so i want to keep the spacing short
  2. 00:40:667 (2,3) - since (3) has a clap sound it could use a more intense jump, so that the clap would get enough emphasis. Emphazis goes here 00:41:238 (5) - , a way stronger beat. And as to why this 00:40:476 (1,2) - also has bigger spacing, it's placed like that to make flowing into that pattern more comfortable.
    Note: 00:45:428 (4) - same. 00:46:000 (7,8) - same here. Not really needed, increased spacing here would add nothing and would make it play more annoying.
    00:54:971 (3,4) - and this can be easily misread as 1/4 after the previous very intnese patterns. Did something here since the spacing was also inconsistent
    Same 01:00:420 (1,2) - here. I don't really see how this would be missread, that's the same spacing i use for 1/2 gaps that land on a red tick so if anything this would make it inconsistent
  3. 00:42:572 - are you sure about leaving this beat ignored? Feels quite empty. Why not add a circle? mapping the guitar, adding a circle would make the rhythm more monotonous imho
  4. 01:26:566 (3) - in case ezek applies the comboing suggestion you might want to place a new combo here as well for consistency purposes and a HP increase to support players. Didn't add a NC, but lowered the hp instead. Passing with hr was almost impossible lol
  5. 01:36:013 (4,1,2,3) - consider stacking/moving farther apart to prevent misreading? Believe in the players abilities, they know how to read ;^) (i've never seen someone missread this tbh)

    Fun. A bit confusing at times, but fun. yey


Best of luck!
Thanks!

Hobbes2 wrote:

Atsuro, can you make your diff AR 9? It's rather dense for 8.8 so it's kinda confusing. Also with all patterns with no sliders in them at all this map is super hard to pass with HP 7 lol. Fun map though.
Lowered to 6.5 hp
Leaving the ar as is because it's perfectly readable and ar 9 feels fast for this map (at least for me) and mapped it with low ar in mind. Reading dense patterns is a skill too :^)

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Topic Starter
ezek
Updated~
polka
whY IS THIS DEAD
Atsuro
Whyyyyyyyyy
Topic Starter
ezek
It is not~ I just don't have much time to look for BNs here, I'll try after getting ranked my two iconed maps~
Atsuro
Hype
polka

ezek wrote:

It is not~ I just don't have much time to look for BNs here, I'll try after getting ranked my two iconed maps~
soon plx
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Topic Starter
ezek
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:V

Topic Starter
ezek
we are alive
MoodyRPG

ezek wrote:

we are alive
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