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ELEKA22
37 posts
Joined July 2010
Topic Starter
ELEKA22
Is it annoying that place many post?

Color-blind

Idk if there will be colorblind playing Osu! but people could help if it is.

One option (I thought doing a post about the extensions in Osu! but I would get a [Denied]) to fix the colors in Osu, as this is an important part of the gameplay in Osu!
Claudia_old
571 posts
Joined July 2010
Claudia_old
that's why we have numbers to signal the beginning of a new combo.

not really seeing the purpose here otherwise.
ELEKA22
37 posts
Joined July 2010
Topic Starter
ELEKA22
But color is also important to the order of the combos, I base myself on it several times. :o
deadbeat
osu! Alumni
9,218 posts
Joined June 2009
deadbeat

E-Hooker wrote:

that's why we have numbers to signal the beginning of a new combo.

not really seeing the purpose here otherwise.
pretty much this. some maps have colours that are really close to being the same and i still manage to play them just fine cause i just play attention to the combo number. this isn't really that usefull.
Derekku
COOL DUDE
7,270 posts
Joined March 2009
Derekku
It's kind of hard to see just numbers when playing harder/fast maps; you go by the colors (even though it really doesn't matter in the long run) or more importantly, the approach circles.

Color-blind modes have been mildly discussed in different forums, but I can't find any good threads. Like I said above, it really shouldn't matter, as color is more of a "bonus" than a "necessity". The only mode that really requires color is Taiko, and there's already a thread dedicated to a color-blind mode for that.

I won't flat-out deny this, but I really don't see this happening.
mm201
osu! Alumni
4,495 posts
Joined August 2008
mm201
Colours matter very little to none for regular osu! gameplay, aside from visibility of approach circles. Even in this case, most people only perceive motion strongly in the LUMA domain, not CHROMA, so those of us with regular vision will still face much the same problems. These problems ought to get caught in the beatmap modding process.

I believe the choice of taiko colours will still provide a strong contrast for most types of colour deficiencies.
Jarby
2,963 posts
Joined August 2008
Jarby

ELEKA22 wrote:

But color is also important to the order of the combos, I base myself on it several times. :o
Bad luck when you play beatmaps like Break the Ice then.
blissfulyoshi
osu! Alumni
4,755 posts
Joined July 2008
blissfulyoshi
Out of curiosity, what type of workarounds would you be thinking of to help with colorblindness?
If I had a color wheel, would you would be able make out most of it and have only have small section that blend together?

I sort of want ideas because I want to attempt to make a few parts of a skin to help colorblind people, but I don't know where to start. (No guarantees I will do anything, but there is no way I can start without information)
Guy-kun
770 posts
Joined December 2009
Guy-kun
My.
God.

These threads make me teem with RAGE. I've already raged in a different colourblind thread but don't want to go looking.

Solving problems that don't need solving.

Step 1)Find colour blind people who have issues playing
Step 2)FIND SOLUTIONS

Not the other way round.

</rage></rage></rage></rage></rage></rage></rage></rage></rage></rage>
mm201
osu! Alumni
4,495 posts
Joined August 2008
mm201
Normal:


Deuteranopia (most common):


Protanopia:


Tritanopia:


gg
Guy-kun
770 posts
Joined December 2009
Guy-kun
WHAT IF YOU HAVE NO EYES!!!111

WE HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THOSE PEOPLE IN CASE THEY COME!

OUTPUT THE BEATS OVER THE SERIAL PORT SO I CAN PLAY WITH MY BRAILLE-DEVICE?
James2250
osu! Alumni
4,059 posts
Joined July 2008
James2250
. . . colorblindness can actually be quite common so don't need to be so sarcastic >_>
Guy-kun
770 posts
Joined December 2009
Guy-kun
Read two post above.
blissfulyoshi
osu! Alumni
4,755 posts
Joined July 2008
blissfulyoshi
After seeing those things, the only thing that colorblind people really need to worry about are similar combo colors in standard, but those should be fixed by modding. I guess unless there are large specific problems, I won't do anything.
Derekku
COOL DUDE
7,270 posts
Joined March 2009
Derekku
Huh. I always thought there was red/blue color-blindness, but I guess I obviously got that confused with Red/Green and Blue/Yellow. I'll just deny this since it's really not useful.
selymsivad
31 posts
Joined March 2011
selymsivad
Wow. I think the non-colorblind people are being really biased. You have no idea how hard some things are in osu! because of color. I really don't think it's fair that just because YOU don't see a reason for it because YOU can see the colors, you deny something that could help a LOT of other people with a disability that YOU don't have. I mean seriously, how can you give a solution to something you have no idea what the problem is? (Suggesting counting the numbers)
Oh well. Can't win them all I guess >.>
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
4,848 posts
Joined May 2009
KRZY
It might help if you came up with a possible solution, you know. Can't just come and say "SOLVE THIS".
Raging Bull
2,809 posts
Joined June 2010
Raging Bull
I'm color blind. I don't have much trouble noticing when's a new combo.
Shiro
Global Moderator
4,984 posts
Joined May 2009
Shiro
I'd like to redirect this thread from osu! standard to taiko. It IS extremely difficult if possible at all for some colour-blind people to play it, because some can't see the difference between blue and red.
What I propose is either to be able to choose the colour of taiko drums (in the skin.ini file for instance), either to be able to skin them completely, either to just have a "colour-blind" option for osu! that changes the taiko drums' colours to something more widely seen, like black and white or something.
Raging Bull
2,809 posts
Joined June 2010
Raging Bull
Red and blue contrast with each other heavily right? Pretty sure it would be noticeable to anyone.
Sakura
osu! Alumni
7,979 posts
Joined March 2010
Sakura

Odaril wrote:

I'd like to redirect this thread from osu! standard to taiko. It IS extremely difficult if possible at all for some colour-blind people to play it, because some can't see the difference between blue and red.
What I propose is either to be able to choose the colour of taiko drums (in the skin.ini file for instance), either to be able to skin them completely, either to just have a "colour-blind" option for osu! that changes the taiko drums' colours to something more widely seen, like black and white or something.
viewtopic.php?p=672178#p672178
Xact
88 posts
Joined October 2008
Xact

Raging Bull wrote:

Red and blue contrast with each other heavily right? Pretty sure it would be noticeable to anyone.


Anyone...that's not color blind.
Raging Bull
2,809 posts
Joined June 2010
Raging Bull
I'm colorblind and I see them perfectly fine >_>
My1_old
372 posts
Joined August 2011
My1_old
one question for what are the combos so important???
mm201
osu! Alumni
4,495 posts
Joined August 2008
mm201
We need to be presented with actual problems before being able to come up with solutions to them. Not generic assumptions.
My1_old
372 posts
Joined August 2011
My1_old
but I want to know for what the combos are important for...
Raging Bull
2,809 posts
Joined June 2010
Raging Bull
viewtopic.php?p=1063924#p1063924
Gomo Psivarh
584 posts
Joined December 2009
Gomo Psivarh
Red and blue?

Shouldn't the majority be red-green colorblind?
selymsivad
31 posts
Joined March 2011
selymsivad

My1 wrote:

one question for what are the combos so important???
Its not the combos that I have a problem with. Its the background image color making the approaching circles disappear. The approaching circle sometimes blends in with the background picture and makes it incredibly hard to time a beat sometimes. I feel at a disadvantage most of the time. I'm not sure what people could do to try and solve this, but maybe someone can try SOMETHING and colorblind players can give feedback on what can make it better? I just want to even the playing field for all players with visual disabilities is all...
Guy-kun
770 posts
Joined December 2009
Guy-kun

selymsivad wrote:

My1 wrote:

one question for what are the combos so important???
Its not the combos that I have a problem with. Its the background image color making the approaching circles disappear. The approaching circle sometimes blends in with the background picture and makes it incredibly hard to time a beat sometimes. I feel at a disadvantage most of the time. I'm not sure what people could do to try and solve this, but maybe someone can try SOMETHING and colorblind players can give feedback on what can make it better? I just want to even the playing field for all players with visual disabilities is all...
Delete background images for all songs.

Solved until OSZ2
jort93
2 posts
Joined October 2014
jort93
im colourblind and i got quite some problems on mania to see the difference between the pink and the white ones.
Bara-
11,978 posts
Joined April 2013
Bara-
1.) Please don't bump old marked threads
2.) Make a new thread
3.) What does those 2 have to do with each other? (The colors in Mania) There is no need for color in mania, and it can be skinned out
My1_old
372 posts
Joined August 2011
My1_old
problem is that n many forums you should neither bump nor create a thread for a topic that already exists and since there is never a clear guideline, this is controversional.
Bara-
11,978 posts
Joined April 2013
Bara-
AFAIK, If something is marked as invalid/denied, one shouldn't bump/necro it, but instead, make a new thread
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