They say because the animation is different but isnt AR about 'time' not animation?
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why do ppl say ar7 DT isnt AR9?
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They're either retarded or too embarassed to accept that they're wrong
Well technically they're right because it's not AR9 it's AR7 at 1.5x speed :^)
For all intents and purposes, though, those people are wrong. That said, it might be just a placebo, but I've always felt like DT AR was somehow different to equivalent nomod/HR ARs.
For all intents and purposes, though, those people are wrong. That said, it might be just a placebo, but I've always felt like DT AR was somehow different to equivalent nomod/HR ARs.
because DT increases bpm which tightens the map up and increases the amount of notes on screen at once similar to gravity kinda.
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If i take an ar9 map and change it to ar1 then its also not ar1 thenWrite wrote:
because DT increases bpm which tightens the map up and increases the amount of notes on screen at once similar to gravity kinda.
)Or it might be that they are different because the animation is different so that one AR displays notes earlier than the other, but i see the circles appear instantly tho, there is no blurring whatsoever.
I feel that too, thats why i dont liek DT. AR10.3 ftwMahogany wrote:
That said, it might be just a placebo, but I've always felt like DT AR was somehow different to equivalent nomod/HR ARs.
AR7 DT feels really weird to acc even with the same OD as nomod AR9.
I very specifically said "equivalent" in the hope that I'd AVOID having people say this to me but it seems that was too much to hope for gotta be more specific next timeWrite wrote:
because DT increases bpm which tightens the map up and increases the amount of notes on screen at once similar to gravity kinda.
AR7 + DT = AR9. But depending on map note density can also increase which is why it feels different to regular AR9 when playing it, and that's the noob trap.
If i take an ar9 map and change it to ar1 then its also not ar1 thenNo, it's AR1 since its natural change without difference in BPM and object animation.
AR7 + DT = object animations speed up by 1.5x which technically is equivalent of AR9 but visual it isn't.
By using song bpm and map changer (somewhere in forum made by smoogi) there is clear difference between natural AR9 and AR7+DT - same song, same map, song speed up by 1.5x and map natural AR changed from 7 to 9.
Timing wise, both are the same (600ms hit window).
So at the end, AR7+DT == AR9 or != AR9 depends on point of view and both can be right.
By numbers (hit window timing) - it is AR9
By object animation - it isn't AR9
AR is AR ???
Because while AR+DT is equivalent to nomod AR, OD+DT is not. The window for 100 and 50 is significantly smaller with DT iirc. 'B1rd wrote:
AR7 DT feels really weird to acc even with the same OD as nomod AR9.
Also, technically speaking, the animations are different. With DT they are simply 1.5x faster. This is only noticeable if you skin your hitcircle overlay with an animation. The animation will cycle frames 1.5x faster than it would for equivalent AR nomod.
He obviously means od5+dt
We should be able to stack modsKhelly wrote:
He obviously means od5+dt
I want to play an easy map with DT stacked 5 times
who even says this. i rarely see anyone who says or even cares about this.Adder wrote:
why do ppl say ar7 DT isnt AR9?
probably #osu cancer B-)
So like Double Time I, Double Time II, Hard Rock I, Hard Rock II, etc...Mahogany wrote:
We should be able to stack modsKhelly wrote:
He obviously means od5+dt
I want to play an easy map with DT stacked 5 times
Yes
Really, the correct answer is that ppl are just flat out wrong.
Like that time when a university professor proved that the sum of all natural numbers going to infinity is equal to -1/12, and the internet literally broke down.
Like that time when a university professor proved that the sum of all natural numbers going to infinity is equal to -1/12, and the internet literally broke down.
Uh, because the sum of all natural numbers actually is -1/12... if you define the operation correctly. People somehow take for granted what addition etc. actually are but I guess I can't blame them as they can cite ignorance as an excuse.Minhtam wrote:
Really, the correct answer is that ppl are just flat out wrong.
Like that time when a university professor proved that the sum of all natural numbers going to infinity is equal to -1/12, and the internet literally broke down.
Adder wrote:
They say because the animation is different but isnt AR about 'time' not animation?
Despite both being 600 ms, there's a noticable difference in how the notes appear visually, so it makes perfect sense to make a distinction?Ezonie wrote:
They're either retarded or too embarassed to accept that they're wrong