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Sinistro
DAAAYUMN, a sequel? Didn't know it sold so well.

One more game I'd like to play on the 3DS, then. But the 3DS library sucks at the moment... :/

Note to developers: Make about 10 more games I'd like to play on the 3DS so I can warrant buying it. A new Trauma Centre is a no-brainer. Gogogo.
Azure_Kite
I agree; Trauma Centre for sure.

At the moment my definite TO BUY list includes Cave Story, Monster Hunter 3G and 4, as well as Devil Survivor overclocked, if it comes out. Never forgetting about Wright vs Layton, either.

This makes me happy; Very very happy.
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YGOkid8
that's the thing with the 3DS. the 3D and everything else is a gimmick, but then there's all these pooting awesome new games coming to it.. but then there's also a lot of crap games out there as well :/ why so complicated
Gomo Psivarh
Waiting Golden Sun 4 and new Castlevania on 3DS :(
NoHitter
@Sequel
I will buy a 3DS the moment this is released.
This could be the game that makes the "I'll buy the 3DS now that there are games I like" scale tip.
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YGOkid8
don't forget Kingdom Hearts 3D featuring NEKU FROM THE WORLD ENDS WITH YOU OH MY GAAAAAWD!!
Jinxy
Finally got the time to play it, first grouping is with Santa, June, Lotus through Door not-bloody and then second was Clover, Seven through Door 7. Played to the part where Snake was killed.

This makes me uneasy, since the way Snake was killed, like Person 9 meant at least 2 other people caused it.
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YGOkid8

JInxyjem wrote:

This makes me uneasy, since the way Snake was killed, like Person 9 meant at least 2 other people caused it.
just tells you how well it's been written/translated. you'll still be continuing the game i hope?
Jinxy
Playing right now.
NoHitter
Yeah... I bet you're going to get one of the bad ends.

Edit:
Go through Door 1.
Jinxy
Too late, I chose 6.

Ironically, I'm with one of the possible combinations of all the killers. Excellent choice >_>
NoHitter
I suggest you revert back.
You'll get a bad end.
IIRC, 1 will get you a non-bad ending, but non-good ending too.
Jinxy
I guess I'll do that. I can f myself up later

EDIT: God damn Junpei is sneaky

EDIT2: Cleared the door 1 ending. Junpei learnt about Alice and the molecular links. What. The. Hell. So many questions. Why the hell was the ending so abrupt, Seven, Clover, Junpei and a noisy coffin and suddenly TBC.

EDIT3: Bloody Door, then Laboratory, and then Torture Room. Bad end. Junpei learnt about the kidnapping and telepathy, but no molecular links.

How do I even good end? The first two grouping choices didn't seem to affect anything.
NoHitter
@JInxyjem
To get the true ending you have to get the Safe ending first. Go through the bloody door (Snake, Seven) then the Laboratory (Clover, Lotus), then the Engine Room (June, Ace, Santa). Then do the abrupt ending again - it'll be extended.

Also did you not see the video pointing at which doors you should have gone through?
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YGOkid8
you know, i personally went and did all the bad endings first and then did the real endings. it's way more satisfying that way.
my recommended order -> Knife, Axe, Sub, Safe, True
of course also try to go through every door
NoHitter
My Ending order was:
Knife, Cut-off True, Sub, Safe, True, Axe
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YGOkid8
as if you'd do the dummy ending though :/ unless you actually played through it properly and did it by chance?
NoHitter
I played everything without a walkthrough until I got the True ending.
That's when I used it to get the Axe ending.
Jinxy
Woke up this morning and accidentally Axe'd. Then I read Hitter's hint and got Safe.

Currently in order: Dummy, Sub, Axe, Safe

tbh I got Dummy because I stuck with June, then avoided Lotus because she was sounding suspicious, and grabbed everything I could because they were obviously going to come in handy.
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YGOkid8
@NoHItter oh i see as soon as i got the knife ending, i came across that flowchart and used that to plan my routes - to get all the endings (in that order i said earlier on) and to go through all the doors with as little repeats as possible

@JInxyjem make sure you do the True ending last! \:D/ well don't have to but yeah
NoHitter
I still hated the fact that Ace was the bad guy. He was a cool person. :(
Jinxy
I did not expect 5, 8, 1 = Axe, because I thought Junpei was obviously going to piece together the fake arm thing in the captain's room. Guess not.

Oh and as for why I didn't see the game handing me the list of doors needed, was because I thought it was just random >_>
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YGOkid8
i still hated the fact that June isn't as sweet loving as we thought she was :(

@JInxyjem once you finish all the other endings, you'll see why.. iirc

EDIT: edited first post with new info.
Jinxy
Finished True Ending.

1. So the player finishing the Safe Ending and letting S-E Junpei understand things allowed Akane to receive the data and pass it on to T-E Junpei...?

2. Did Seven lie about Akane dying, or did his memories get modified when Akane was saved?

3. ALICE. WHAT THE FUCK. ALICE. WHAT THE FUCK. WHAT. THE. FUCK.

4. The part in the SUV where Ace was muted and unmuted was hilarious.

EDIT: I read through the thread spoilers, and I believe the answer would be a parallel universe. Like:
Akane Dies, and the future is modified for her to survive, and the future of her survival created a loop so that that future would always allow her to survive, and her survival creates the same future? Think driving into those ring-like roads in Europe and then just going on and on without ever leaving the ring-like road.
...Oh wait nevermind, it's just like the video of the sequel in page 3, "Choices made in the future will alter the events of the past".


EDIT2: Is the Q and A website gone? Is was still there last night...
happy30
You can get the sequel now pretty much everywhere. anyone got it?
I played it today... I got the first few endings...

now the worst part is getting to sleep after playing it. my mind's full of fuck
NoHitter

happy30 wrote:

You can get the sequel now pretty much everywhere. anyone got it?
I played it today... I got the first few endings...

now the worst part is getting to sleep after playing it. my mind's full of fuck
That reminds me. I need to buy it :(
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YGOkid8
i've played demo (3DS), and disappointed how with 3D that the characters look flat lol (in talky scenes anyway).

first 999 wasn't even released here (pirated) but hopefully this one will be buyable.

EDIT: just remembered from the demo... alice lol wth .-. also how sexy is japanese voice acting? :D
happy30
It should be released in a few days in your country.
The characters are indeed flat, but I don't really mind because I liked the 2d portraits more anyway.
too bad for those who wanted to see alice in 3D >__>

voice acting is great i'd say. I especially like phi. Clover is also good, much better than her english voice.

I thought the rooms in de demo were really bland and cheap, so far the crew quarters was the lamest escape segment. imo
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YGOkid8
lol my god i was actually stuck in the demo for aaaages, in the end i was only able to get through it through all the hints alice and phi threw at me. and it was on easy too! the shame :(

sigma scratching the poster was hilarious though :p also phi looks so... bored and detached, wondering how she gets together with sigma.
assuming they do because of all those screenies but hey might be wrong.

EDIT: also just realised that us in AU (as well as EU) only get Japanese voice acting :/ which is better than just English, but I wanted English as well! dammit why does 3DS have to be region locked...

EDIT: so has anyone actually finished this game? to my dismay, it's only out on Nintendo eShop for AUS, and i have no funds to use :<
will thank and grovel for anyone who gives me money lol
happy30
just finished the game yesterday...wow this took me way too many hours
overall this game was better than the first game, although I missed the setting of the first game a bit.

and some parts of the ending were a bit predictable

also advising everyone to have a pen and notebook ready... lol, the game won't remember some codes for you
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YGOkid8
means quite a bit for this to be better than the first game, cause that itself was already a masterpiece :o
dammit i can't get this game soon enough!
NoHitter
Just started reading through it. (Damn why did I get a gift at such a wrong time D: Now I keep on blowing off more important things.)
As of when I stopped reading, the sequel seems to have a less "sense of impending doom and sense of betrayal".

I mean "Zero is among us." was just mentioned so early in the game, and the reactions of everyone were somewhat bland.
LukaXD
Can't wait to get Virtue's Last Reward, played through "999" 8 times total and I LOVED it. Although I think I should wait a bit before i get it (until the PEC room bug gets fixed atleast).
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YGOkid8
speaking of this game, found it yesterday at jb after ages of searching. now i've got no money, but fingers crossed no one else buys it
NoHitter
Finished it, and HOLY it is either of the same quality or better than 999.

About the ending: I definitely think the "girl" Sigma saves in the test site is Phi, and that the test site is the sequel material.
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YGOkid8
finally bought the game! will play when i'm done with my replays of ace attorney and 999 (so i can refresh myself on story). cannot wait to read those spoiler'd texts!
Dooms

NoHitter wrote:

Finished it, and HOLY it is either of the same quality or better than 999.

About the ending: I definitely think the "girl" Sigma saves in the test site is Phi, and that the test site is the sequel material.
I thought it was talking about Tenmyouji saving Akane, which was in 999. Did Sigma really save someone? o_O.
NoHitter

Dooms wrote:

I thought it was talking about Tenmyouji saving Akane, which was in 999. Did Sigma really save someone? o_O.
Nah. Akane says something about Sigma saving a girl in the Mars exploration test site before he got his eye removed and arms cut off. My guess is that girl was Phi. Remember the recording of the Mars exploration test site? The voice of the girl sounded like Phi's voice.

If we couple that with what we know: Sigma going into the test site located in the desert. Phi's consciousness travelling back into the past as well. Junpei/Tenmyouji having something to do with the the Mars project as he hints in one of the routes. Akane probably going to the test site with Sigma. Alice and Clover about to infiltrate a "facility in the desert". The Radical-6 virus spreading from the test site. The leader of the religion that wanted the world to be wiped out using Radical-6 being an esper as well...

So many delicious plot points to dissect and the possibility of a reunion of characters for the sequel.
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YGOkid8
okay, just started playing VLR, and... i wish we over here in AU had access to english voices :( i dunno why, but the japanese one is very off-putting, when i'm trying to read in english. i haven't had this problem with VNs i've played on comp, so i dunno why it's putting me off now...

rrgh stupid region lock, otherwise i'd hack and buy a US version of this game

in other things, is this like the first game where there was a safe end and true end? i just want to know which routes i should save for later, but i'm gonna assume that the longer routes are the ones i do last... anyway, some confirmation would be cool (with no spoiling if possible!).
NoHitter
Similar concept but with a lot more requirements,
There are "locks" in the storyline of some parts. You can't proceed forward without finishing a previous ending/s.
And by endings, I mean A LOT. There are as many "required" endings as characters in the story.

I suggest you get the endings that obviously lead to bad ends first though. Finishing all of the character endings before the bad ends will make you less enthusiastic to complete the entire game.
happy30
you shouldn't worry about the route you are taking, you dont need to do any route twice and also you'll need all routes for the true ending
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YGOkid8
okay well i was playing before reading any of this, so by looking at the flowchart, i decided to go with what seemed to be the shortest route, choices as magenta, ally and ally but then oh wow the branch of the route grew :U and yeah confusing poo happened and i'm like wut.

obvious bad ends first, huh? so i guess i gotta betray to my heart's content? damn i'll feel like shit -_- but better soon than later.
happy30
well basically all routes have a 'real' ending and 1 or more game over endings It doesn't matter which to take first, but don't wait for those game over endings till the end of the game which might be boring to watch. I tried to finish the whole branch I started with before trying a new branch.

and yes, the flowchart doesn't tell you yet which route is short or long :P

actually the whole flowchart is kind of spoilery, I didn't look at it while I was playing, just only after I got an ending and needed to start at a new position
Mogsy
For those who have finished the main game, the Q&A with Uchikoshi is up here. No, really, do not click unless you have absolutely finished Virtue's Last Reward. Be prepared for answers trolling and mass butthurt

But yes. This game. Holy shit. Recently replayed some of the endings to refresh my memory, and while these games have been rather short/easy compared to other visual novels I've experienced, they're both some of the most well-written and well-executed ones I've ever experienced.
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YGOkid8
happy30, i'll keep that in mind.

and shit man, every time i choose betray and my opponent chooses ally, a part of me dies inside. this game is seriously bad for my poor conscience :( i'm going to emerge from this game a completely different man, i swear.

EDIT: as of this edit, i have done lun and dio bad end, and dio end. betraying still hurts, esp. when the other characters kick you down for it. i'm so very glad this flowchart exists, cause if it didn't...... brrr!

my impressions so far: i like how straight from the get-go, we see that Phi has some supernatural thingo that lets her pick information from other timelines. we went into 999 blind, and unaware of the morphogenetic field theory. however we're playing this game already aware of that, and we automatically make that connection to Phi. and that's pretty cool i think, the big plot twister from the first game is business as usual in the second. anyway i'm really looking forward to how this game turns out.

as a side note, that feeling i get when i figure out the puzzles on Hard mode after scratching my brainloaf to bits... and finding how to get to the gold files when i unintentionally get the escape password first... such small things are some of my greatest joys in this game so far :)

8 safe endings before the true one? oh boy...
adam2046
Just finished the true ending of 999.
I immediately went for door number 5 and door number 3 in my first playthrough because I wanted the number 9 bracelet (yes that was my immediate thought when number 9 blew up, and my god did it piss me off when Junpei looked at it and left it there) and I wanted to go through the door they specifically didn't want me to go through.
Got the rest of the bad endings before getting the safe and true ends.

...It wasn't as good as I thought it would be; the puzzles were piss easy (should really have been timed or had some element of danger to them and they basically handed you the answers for some), I didn't care about the characters enough, the "would you like to know some random facts about psuedoSCIENCE?!" writing style (it can work, just... not in the freezer please...) and skipping through the first parts/doing rooms you already solved was tedious. It was worth playing through for the twist though, and it was still fun/interesting to play through (and I think only one moment unintentionally made me laugh out loud).

I'll definitely buy the sequel at some point.
NoHitter

adam2046 wrote:

(and I think only one moment unintentionally made me laugh out loud).
Was this the elevator scene with Junpei and June?

adam2046 wrote:

I'll definitely buy the sequel at some point.
Don't worry about the "skipping through the first parts/doing rooms you already solved" being tedious, the sequel has a new system that allows you to skip parts you've already done without having to go through all the text.
adam2046

NoHitter wrote:

adam2046 wrote:

(and I think only one moment unintentionally made me laugh out loud).
Was this the elevator scene with Junpei and June?
Unintentionally, as in a piece of dialogue that was so bad/poorly written that it made me laugh.
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YGOkid8

adam2046 wrote:

I'll definitely buy the sequel at some point.
you'll be glad you did.

anyway, VLR. i've clocked 30 hours as of this post, and have done all character endings except for Luna, Quark and Phi (and true). during tenmyouji's route, all of the references and stuff pretty much told me who he really is.

and fuck me to fuck, i did not see it coming at all. i didn't even consider it.
i'm mindfucked as much as when i finished 999, and there's 3 character endings i haven't even done yet. -_-

see, it's stuff like this that's gold, because it's so very unexpected that when it's revealed, it's like your mind gets shot. and you're just stunned to fuck.

i am so very looking forward to the end now. i must know how this ends.

EDIT: okay i just finished VLR, and i'm confused as fuck. it was pretty cool until after they revealed who zero was, afterwards all my confusion got in the way of everything... while i was mindfucked after 999, here i'm just confused as fuck lol. i suppose i gotta check out those Q&A now.

like if someone who's finished the game can explain to me how exactly that flowchart diagram with jumping works? it was just so weirdly drawn, and i'm having trouble comprehending a lot of it.

EDIT: Q&A's are trololol. a trilogy huh? the 3rd game better close this up properly.
Mogsy
I expect the third game to be filled with pseudoscience and actually showing what the fuck happened with Aoi/Ace/Light. At least the game is sure to end properly, as Uchikoshi is not that dumb of a writer. That Q&A, though. Filled with so many laughs.
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YGOkid8
i think my favourite part in this game was when phi explains to Sigma Schrödinger's cat, and how it related to their situation, as well as the "decisions you make in the future influence the past" thing. Schrödinger's cat has always confused me, but this game explained it pretty well.

and i hope it does end properly. i recall reading in the Q&A somewhere that he liked leaving some ends up to reader interpretation? yeah i hope he doesn't do that (or at least, too much) in the 3rd game. proper complete closure is needed imo.

also as of now, VLR had its cool things, but i personally liked 999 more. a lot of the route endings in VLR are pretty anti-climatic, even in the "good" ends. like quark ending where alice is about to stab herself and they end it, and sigma seeing his left hand gone. like, i understand why, since a crisis situation forces their consciousness to jump, but i dunno, still didn't like it like that :/

compared to the endings in 999 - getting axed and knifed, endings here were pretty... lacking.
also, it's a pity the directors wanted VLR to be a lot less horror than the first game. there were rarely any times where i felt suspense, except for those moments when they're about to reveal something. first game i was in constant suspense, which i enjoyed.
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